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Mathonwy: Also, it's a Cam stream. And I am particularly fond of Cam streams.
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Rourke9: mucilaginous is a delicious word, thanks for that
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bigpuppystuart: i have had less than 3 hours of low quality sleep so man i feel ya cam
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L0rdX33n: You’re just that wonderful
TXC2: Lrrbot please
TheWooglie: oh no Cam on youtube and on twitch
Mathonwy: We just like you that much.
Dalrint: Bo do dooo dop
TheMerricat: what happened 15 hours ago?
Joalni: Were these from AFK? Or off-stream after that?
Spades_Slicc: Fort happened about 15 hours ago
Mathonwy: I mean... We could sit here and talk? But, video game seems more on task.
swaggytaco: lets just forget yesterday happened
LordZarano: It plays all subs that have happened since these OBS scenes were used last
Spades_Slicc: The impossible run ruined itself by being bullshit
Rourke9: sounds good!
bigpuppystuart: No Ruth. She will be missed
Dalrint: So we are starting over?
CAKHost: So more 'Blood for the Blood God" lines?
TXC2: Dalrint yeap
Spades_Slicc: @Dalrint No no, starting again for the first time
Mathonwy: 15?
Rourke9: now you're an expert, so everything will go PERFECTLY
Spades_Slicc: also how were you supposed to beat that mission with only 3 knights?
LordZarano: Ah the sub alerts have cleared out now
Mathonwy: What if not terminator? I don't know if I like that.
OrkaOrkinus: Good morning
TXC2: hello OrkaOrkinus welcome
swaggytaco: i'm a sucker for terminators
compuNIC: if not terminator than rip and tear? difficult decision
somecall_metim: greetings, programs!
OrkaOrkinus: humans and marines
Mathonwy: Greetings User!
swaggytaco: not a tank?
L0rdX33n: Not a mech?
Invitare: an enemy made of hydrocarbons
bigpuppystuart: a flesh bag and not a warp entity
Rourke9: made of carbon and hydrogen?
OrkaOrkinus: organic/mechanical/demonic are the classes of enemies
CmdrMadMoe: crit tank
swaggytaco: i feel like all of nurgles creations have organs in them somewhere
Mathonwy: Ooooo! Hammer hand terminator!
the_lone_bard: Oh how wonderful, I didn't expect to get home at 2am and randomly get here just as a Cameron 40k stream started :D
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Spades_Slicc: @swaggytaco were those organs always theirs tho
CmdrMadMoe: good ol facesmasher
compuNIC: very tank
pn55: Yes! Big chonky lad hitting like a truck.
TXC2: hello the_lone_bard welcome
the_lone_bard: What a nice end to the night, I'm normally around at the start of any streams.
OrkaOrkinus: Played through this 3 times now, please tell me if I'm being to much, but it's lots of fun!
swaggytaco: yup
Lyinginbedmon: Any ability that makes enemy attacks just Not half the time is always going to be Super useful
compuNIC: ew
swaggytaco: its great to be able to send a guy into melee knowing he'll be fine
Mathonwy: That seems... Random?
OrkaOrkinus: They're all random... it's not great
Mathonwy: Get that man a storm bolter!
compuNIC: doctor heal thy self?
JadedCynic: ♫Reach out, reach out and touch someone!♫ :)
swaggytaco: :')
varazeal: Ah nthe empires finest
pn55: +3 range on the guy who can teleport...
Spades_Slicc: Did the game still eat one of their resolves for the tutorial even though you skipped it?
compuNIC: Space Marines! We are the best in the imperium, but you four in particular...
OrkaOrkinus: The interceptors get assist shots later, so that's actually helpful?
Rourke9: oooh, that does sound fun
JadedCynic: the Imperium's best-kept secret. Kappa
TiberiusEsuriens: I thought the passive is +3 range on anything, SB is just what is currently equipped?
Mathonwy: Those guys seem like they all got the wrong job. Like, they all showed up and switched armor with each other to mes with you.
accountmadeforants: They were told to find some unique skills to make themselves irreplaceable. They just didn't account for whether those skills were actually desirable.
CmdrMadMoe: i wonder why they stopped making enemy pods actually move around in these games
TXC2: CmdrMadMoe easier to program this way
pn55: Ah, I've just realised. We're starting over?
CmdrMadMoe: seems butts to me
somecall_metim: Taking cover? Isn't that a Guardsman only thing?
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Mathonwy: Awww. Those guys are so cute and... Squishy.
abaoa_qu: Ooh, hvy stubber
GreasyJoe: @CmdrMadMoe Some of them do move
bigpuppystuart: Astartes and Soritas mixed squad. " Be vigilant my slaughter Siblings!"
Laserbeaks_Fury: this map looks familiar
Laserbeaks_Fury: I wonder if they do like XCOM with a bunch of set pieces
accountmadeforants: @bigpuppystuart A family that slays together, stays together.
CmdrMadMoe: @GreasyJoe before you encounter them?
Mathonwy: Psychic onslaught... With gun?
GreasyJoe: @CmdrMadMoe Yep, sometimes theres an arrow on the icon and they patrol a bit
Spades_Slicc: You'd like to psychic onslaught? just open twitter!
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control_rig: Terminator'd them good
Mathonwy: Isn't that what Terminators do? Thus, the verb you used.
malsareus: terminatoring up the board is a legit strat for death guard and Dark angels
CmdrMadMoe: man making the grunts squishier but adding more of them is a way better option than making them tankier
Rourke9: it tickled
Dalrint: It just makes zero sense to me that these guys are remotely a threat.
n_mandrag: When your heretical human is still in a distinct non-liquified shape after you applied your stormbolter to him, your machine spirit definitly hates you
malsareus: they shot of a purity seal
Mathonwy: You didn't even punch through armor. There was no blood.
Rourke9: @Dalrint to be fair, it seems like they're doing approximately 0 damage
compuNIC: @Dalrint so the problem is the blessings of chaos what makes them able to survive at least one hit
bigpuppystuart: Phlebotomist: "you will bleed!" Patient: "...I sure hope so."
malsareus: a louder reminder to maybe reload would be helpful
Mathonwy: I do like the terrain traversal animations.
malsareus: yes, a mag counter would be helpful
accountmadeforants: That column on the left seems to have plenty of room for some ammo stats, too...
Rourke9: yea thats frustrating
somecall_metim: telling you your sword doesn't use ammo is a strange thing to tell you
malsareus: the game tells you to main swords
TXC2: chaos?
Rourke9: cultists benifit
abaoa_qu: Cursur over the shooting icon and it does, but yeah, that remains annoying
TheMerricat: @somecall_metim The spoiler is later on in the campaign they get GUNBlades, and those need ammo....
malsareus: we just figured out it's a chaos plague.... Lady why else were WE here?
n_mandrag: @somecall_metim it would make sense if your power weapons were not powered by your armors generator... quite alot of impieral melee weapons could feasably have ammo
compuNIC: @malsareus tbf the Grey Knights were just passing by
malsareus: weren't there some tempestus scions she could've comandeered
swaggytaco: the groan ability to reanimate dead walkers is so annoying
bigpuppystuart: Is the proper protocals using hand sanitizers cause i don't think that cuts it waith warp plagues
somecall_metim: grenades solve a lot of issues
malsareus: typically stasis vaults
Rourke9: these seem way squishier than the cultists
Android8675: now I wanna reload xcom...
somecall_metim: shiny cutscene for teleporting back
n_mandrag: @Android8675 the 40k mod for the og xcom is excellent... but hard as nails
Android8675: @n_mandrag I was never very good at XCom, but I think i've played just about every iteration of the game.
EightBitArcher: ah, so the servitors are hard at work applying the purity ducttape to the engine, excellent.
malsareus: so, what raw materials will we be using for our servitors? the locals seem a wee bit contaminated?
Plasterboard: Get them plants workin' or we stop paying them a salary
Rourke9: I love the little boobs/butt over the shoulder look we got from Ectar there
malsareus: salary? we paying a salary?
n_mandrag: @Plasterboard this is 40k - their payment is "no beatings"
malsareus: I thought we just lobotomised them
Plasterboard: Ah, so morale is improving! excellent
Dalrint: Why advance time?
malsareus: the counter that says hull integrity is reassuring
n_mandrag: yeah. if morale is slipping we feed the unhappy ones to the engines. (Yes... that really is a thing in 40k)
compuNIC: @Dalrint wait patiently for the choas to happen
abaoa_qu: Ah, look at this nice clean starmap. Gonna keep it that way forever
somecall_metim: what class of starship is that?
EightBitArcher: the Terminus Est?
malsareus: Terminus Est
malsareus: Typhus's boat
Rourke9: I hope they make another of those Battletech games. I really liked that one
compuNIC: @Rourke9 Maybe during the clan invasion?
abaoa_qu: There are insane Battletech mods
TehAmelie: arrival time, estimated?
Rourke9: Sure! I don't know Battletech lore, but it seems like they were leading to that?
n_mandrag: @compuNIC modders added everything there is to battletech.. quad mechs and super heavies included
Rourke9: The mod's weren't personally appealing unfortunately
compuNIC: oh wow
abaoa_qu: Oh, lol, I'd recommended Rogurtech
abaoa_qu: RogueTech
Laserbeaks_Fury: I should finish that someday
Rourke9: Yea :( I hope they find more ways to make smaller mechs more valuable so it wasn't just "always field the biggest mechs"
Spades_Slicc: It's Arena Stonks day!
TheAwkes: Medium is the good shit.
abaoa_qu: My company is mostly VTOL's
compuNIC: yeah the campaign had you stumble into a Star Leauge Highlander for some reason
malsareus: your Shadowhawks
Spades_Slicc: aaaand it has to update
angryoptimist: Assault Mechs as the "the good dishes"? I like that.
Rourke9: @abaoa_qu yea, that was the one that wasn't super appealing to me. I really wanted a story
Rourke9: to frame things
malsareus: trebuchets
EightBitArcher: got to appreciate the good Ol'Centurion
TheAwkes: Dat Uller, tho.
abaoa_qu: It has tanks, LAMs, battlearmor
Mathonwy: Yeah, towards the end of the game, it's just every mission gets an entire Assault Lance fielded.
Rourke9: yea, that was frustrating
Master_Gunner: pirates casually running a House Steiner Scout Squad
Laserbeaks_Fury: the fact the enemies fielded the heavy mech is how you are able to get your own
EightBitArcher: but yeah, it was kind of a tricky way to let you potentially get everything... and keep the idea of salvage relevant. but it got weird fast when you were playing a long campaign.
abaoa_qu: And Rogue War, which kind of turns it into an MMO
CmdrMadMoe: Hive cities being abandoned thrown around as a casual line lol
n_mandrag: "Battletech 2" ...if it ever happens... hopefully will add proper mixed unit comand. Let us play a bigger mercenary unit that not just brings a lance of mechs , but plenty of fighters , infantry and tanks.
EightBitArcher: an alternate side campaign pulling the overall tonnage down, making it more of a survival style campaign though? that could be rad.
Rourke9: I'm absolutely with you on that, yea
TheMerricat: Nuzlock for Battletech....
bigpuppystuart: I like building the Figures more than i like playing them. I just need to get better at painting
Mathonwy: I kind of wish the enemy lances had some type of morale system. Like, if you are facing down four assaults and you're rocking a Cicada, maybe it's time to run.
abaoa_qu: In RogueTech there is stealth gear so mediums can demolish assault mechs
Ctabbe: I know this is a minor thing, but i get a bit annoyed that at the beginning of every mission you have to full move before you hit enemies
Master_Gunner: A freeplay mode is great for when you want to run a 500 ton squad. But a campaign having a much slower escalation curve would be nice.
TheAwkes: The kind of thing you can justify and enjoy in tabletop, but won't sell a video game.
Rourke9: I guess they are aiming... chaotically
Master_Gunner: Keep light mechs useful
Spades_Slicc: Oh btw Cam, loved Silas' Memoriam scene yesterday
abaoa_qu: Mathon, RogueTech has that
Kyir: The "splurk" sounds of bullets hitting flesh in this are something
n_mandrag: Did Roguetech add the Battlearmor thats able to ride in vehicles or was that from another mod ?
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abaoa_qu: Enemy pilots will even panic and eject instead of continuing to fight in a deathtrap
compuNIC: they are taking cover near an awful lot of fire
Dalrint: Are there a limited amount of reloads per mission?
bigpuppystuart: I am waiting on the rest of the Memori8ums so i can consume them all at once before sinking my fangs into season 2 of Not a Drop to drink
abaoa_qu: Yes, RogueTech has APCs
Rourke9: I'm still holding onto my dream of a Destiny turn based tactics game. I want to be able to field a mixed fireteam of Cabal, Eliksni, and Guardians
Rourke9: in a way the fps doesnt really let us see
EightBitArcher: the Adeptus Decorium really needs to consider the safety features of their burning incense pyres...
Mathonwy: Now I want to hear a Space Marine say "We are the dream makers..."
abaoa_qu: Oh I watched episode 0 last night, very fun
angryoptimist: @Kyir We're running into Nurgle cultists, right now, right? Maybe less-gross Chaos cultists sound a bit less... squidgy?
silverxX59: hi cam hi chat
somecall_metim: oh using the terrain like that is cool
Earthenone: i want a stargate based x-com game, it seems like a good match :)
TXC2: hello silverxX59 welcome
malsareus: everything is sguidgy after taking some bolter rounds to the face
XandaxDK: Cheer200 Boom
TXC2: Earthenone oooh yes
n_mandrag: @EightBitArcher it was considered and been passed to the 2543th circuit of Magistrates of Interior Planning a few decades ago.
abaoa_qu: I love the environmental stuff in this game
lazarus52980: Random twitch lurker here: I really like XCom2 and was considering getting this game. How is it compared to Xcom2 and is it fun? replayable?
silverxX59: is cam starting a new run or is this a first play through
Earthenone: first play
TXC2: silverxX59 new run, 2nd mission
bigpuppystuart: New run, the first was borked
Dalrint: he started over on a lower difficulty
electroswagnetism: it must be so embarrasing for space marines every time normal humans with autoguns draw blood
silverxX59: well i know cam's gonna love this its 2 of his favorite things mashed together
abaoa_qu: I think this game is fun, replayable? Think that's up to the individual. Decent difficulty options
angryoptimist: The way they move seems worryingly fast, given their bulk--so that's about right.
CAKHost: I was thinking of a miette meme to do but I don't know enough of Warhammer to really make one. XD
CAKHost: *Miette, pardon.
Kaorti: hello chat, I hope there have been no great disappointments this session?
TXC2: hello Kaorti welcome
Blizzinam: Exciting angle he has chosen
TheMerricat: @Kaorti Other than bad RNG for the initial skill selections (everyone got the wrong skills) not yet
abaoa_qu: Mark of nurgle
Spades_Slicc: @Kaorti none of the knights have the job that matches their skill
somecall_metim: that is very cool
OrkaOrkinus: That's so satisfying
DreadfulDrifter: what was that about leashes? does this game have the wulfen?
TheAwkes: Chaos trooper in an anime where everyone says the names of their moves as they do them.
Blizzinam: You get to do that!? This game is neat.
Kaorti: ah, just par for the course RNG
Kaorti: thanks
abaoa_qu: This game has some of the most satisfying crits ever
Kaorti: RIP that guy
TXC2: Spaaaaaace!
CAKHost: Goal!
CaptainSpam: That guy was going to go to space today.
TehAmelie: ha, who said the environment had no impact in this game?
accountmadeforants: Visit scenic SPACE, it will blow you away!
Spades_Slicc: The cultists sound a lot like the borderlands psychos
silverxX59: the ragdolls are some of my favorite parts of the game, and the executions
Mangledpixel: boop
abaoa_qu: Oh yeah, apothecary terminator executions are the best
TXC2: hello Mangledpixel welcome
Dalrint: That's the thing. I feel like in this situation, space marines shouldn't have to be cautious at all
Mangledpixel: how goes the war hams?
somecall_metim: cowardice leads to heresy, brother!
compuNIC: aww
angryoptimist: They had a bad problem, yet did not go to space today.
TXC2: #OffByOne
Spades_Slicc: Cultist flight school now taking applications
n_mandrag: @Dalrint yeah - this situation could be delt with by scouts... GREYKNIGHTS would walk through mere cultists without resistance
TehAmelie: go to space today, together! sounds like an ad for romantic travel business
compuNIC: is it saying you can pop the poxwalkers before they spawn?
TXC2: Mangledpixel all our knights started with mismatched abilities
Mangledpixel: fun
abaoa_qu: You can click on ground to doirect pathing
OrkaOrkinus: remember you can set waypoints for movement to make sure your knights aren't dumb
silverxX59: he's in terminator armor he's "fine"
n_mandrag: he had an itch and needed it scratched by that cultist shooting him
Akaias: prime AI with no flaws whatsoever
DreadfulDrifter: @Akaias just as yorkshire tea intended
Spades_Slicc: Afflictions of course!
n_mandrag: @Akaias AI is banned in 40k.... maybe thats why the units are so "differently intelligent ?"
EkstraLangeDruer: you can click the ground to put movement waypoints down, you can also control what side th marine attacks from by waypointing them to that side of the enemy
abaoa_qu: Top right is grenade city
EkstraLangeDruer: happy to help
silverxX59: unlucky rolls are unlucky
compuNIC: can purgators even DO melee?
Rourke9: pathfinding AI is hard, especially with destructible terrain changing the map
silverxX59: astral aim is hammer hand but with guns
EkstraLangeDruer: @compuNIC not if you're using them right
bigpuppystuart: I think Ruth was the one doing all the logical assignments of powers and jobs for starting marines and this is a ruthless run
Spades_Slicc: Oh can we check if the skipped tutorial ate one of your resiliances?
Kaorti: Got any preferred purgator weapons yet?
BrindleBoar: Grenade City sounds like a bad place to visit and a worse place to live.
silverxX59: top right for interceptor is crit chance
Spades_Slicc: @silverxX59 depends how explodable you are
Kaorti: I've found the psilencer is surprisingly useful
abaoa_qu: You can give precise pathing directions by clicking out a path, or they just kinda storm them as a space marine does
silverxX59: both
compuNIC: yeah, it looks like they all have all their resilience? is this a benefit of skipping the tutorial?
Kaorti: hammerhand does a lot for seed extraction reliability too.
silverxX59: cam getting a melee kill extracts seeds as with crits
n_mandrag: Well lorewise... it would be EXTRA IMPORTANT
abaoa_qu: Lose a resilience if you 'die',
Kaorti: I'm not sure that's true?
abaoa_qu: You do
silverxX59: correct,
Spades_Slicc: Would these just promoted knights have been part of the tutorial mission?
abaoa_qu: At this time
Kaorti: Pretty sure you do need a crit
Kaorti: brb, gonna look it up
silverxX59: im on my second play through you don't need crits
TXC2: Spades_Slicc I think so, yes
silverxX59: crits can give you them IE astral aim/hammer hand
abaoa_qu: Not only do you need a crit, you have to select marked crit resjlt
silverxX59: melee kills*
Kaorti: not spending willpower
OrkaOrkinus: Usually only extracton on a crit
abaoa_qu: Result
OrkaOrkinus: always extraction is really nice
XandaxDK: Never used that ability to get seeds
silverxX59: you can get a servo skull to extract them aswell
OrkaOrkinus: @XandaxDK Super like crit Apoticary with extraction builds, they're fun
abaoa_qu: There are seeds just in the environment
XandaxDK: @OrkaOrkinus Still prefer the intercetor/justicar teams myself so ... :)
compuNIC: are seeds an analog for scientists in xcom?
abaoa_qu: This game does a good job of applying pressure from different vectors
Spades_Slicc: at least you earned 15 servitors on that mission
Kaorti: they're a spendable resource @compuNIC
silverxX59: ngl i love my librarian, they are comically good and fun
TehAmelie: Nurgle is such a silly name. cracks me up whenever i hear it
ashiok_nightmare_moose: Nurgle, like Garfields cousin
abaoa_qu: Seeds are like captured alien parts in xcom. Fundamentally they are currency
XandaxDK: We can go ask him if he tolerates it
XandaxDK: I'm sure he'll reply
TXC2: sitting on a chair for 10,000 years would teach a man patience
Mathonwy: I think the Inquisitors just tell people what the Emperor loathes.
Serris__: ohhhhh its yshtola's va xD
bigpuppystuart: The guy who is bound to a life support chair Loathes indolence.
OrkaOrkinus: Did I miss a restart?
varmintx0: I just typed in FC chat that it sounded like Y'shtola's VA.
Serris__: i was trying to figure out why i recognised her voice
n_mandrag: I'm sure once we get the emperor to respond, it will only take him a few years of constant and violent cursing until he aired his grievances with the inquisition
bigpuppystuart: yeah there is a restart
oldsport77: this seems like warhammer xcom. Is that the best description?
TXC2: OrkaOrkinus yes, we restarted at the end of yesturday's stream
insane_42: this is cam's version of unskippable now Kappa
GDwarble: Chapter head Butt-eye
TXC2: oldsport77 that's exactly what it is
Spades_Slicc: @oldsport77 no it's more like Xcom Warhammer Kappa
oldsport77: lets just say xcom 40 thousand @Spades_Slicc and call it even :)
abaoa_qu: Gotta spend servators to make servators
compuNIC: can you do multiple engineering projects at once?
Kaorti: just one
compuNIC: ok
abaoa_qu: One at a time
TehAmelie: we need so many engineers i mean servitors to do them, too
abaoa_qu: Sick indeed
bigpuppystuart: Jump the shark while ytou are at it
abaoa_qu: Need seeds
Mushbie: I was wondering about Dominus Lunete's gender, and come to the realization that they are AMAB: Assigned Meatbag At Birth.
Spades_Slicc: fluid cycling commence
TXC2: !break
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Kaorti: It's kinda cool that the big concern is can you get to the fight in time, not whether you can win the fight.
Kaorti: thematic
abaoa_qu: They refer to Lunette as she
compuNIC: @Mushbie Trans Rights
Mushbie: @abaoa_qu ahh I hadn't encountered that, but she does come across as femme. but the meatbag joke still stands
bigpuppystuart: Playstation 5, the console i will never get to own
Mushbie: @compuNIC indeed
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abaoa_qu: But such concepts of the flesh are far below their notice at this point
Mathonwy: The kids went back to school today. Our dog seems to be much happier now that nap time is back. She even ignored me getting up.
TehAmelie: i remember the space marine basic training is made to kill 9999 out of every 10000 recruits, so that'll drive down life expectancy average a bit. . .
n_mandrag: I believe the name was chosen because it resembles "Lünette" - which is part of a lathe
TXC2: Mathonwy what kind of school starts in August?
Juliamon: TXC2 A shocking number of American schools
Mathonwy: @TXC2 Public school in South Dakota.
TXC2: Juliamon Mathonwy huh, ok then
abaoa_qu: its close to blave” and as we all know, to blave means to bluff, heh? So you were probably playing cards, and she cheated...
TXC2: and here I was assuming everyone just started in September :p
Mushbie: @n_mandrag ahh the German word for a steady rest.
Juliamon: (Mostly ones that know there will be a lot of cancelled days in the winter and don't want to push the school year into July)
abaoa_qu: My district always starts Wednesday after Labor Day
Mathonwy: I mean, I'd love a system closer to Japan. Year round, with some long breaks. So kids stop forgetting crap over summer.
n_mandrag: @Mushbie hu... I didn't know the english name for it :D
accountmadeforants: Oh hey, there's going to be a new Ixalan set in the future! :O (And slightly more on-topic, they showed off some of the WH40K commander deck stuff: https://imgur.com/a/b0fFChH)
laundreydhull: @txc2 waking up, When the Sept. 1st begins...
TXC2: Mathonwy yeah, I would forget how to speak French over the summer every year :p
abaoa_qu: we did a study last year about going to a "balanced schedule", where summer is only like 6 weeks long and you have 3 other 3 week vacations...people did NOT want it
Mushbie: @n_mandrag if that is the reference, it it very fitting name for a tech priest given the lathes importance in manufacturing
Mathonwy: @TXC2 To be clear, French isn't your native language, right?
TehAmelie: it's kind of weird it's been like 10 years since they concluded going on school break for more than two weeks at a time sets back learning for the kids who don't get education at home and we still have 10 week summer breaks so the kids can help with the harvest
TXC2: Mathonwy no, I'm from the UK, so not doing it for 6 weeks over summer made me forget
n_mandrag: @TehAmelie given that school has not fundamentally changed since the 19th century as a whole... small wonder.
Mathonwy: @TXC2 Ok. Just making sure I wasn't missing an "I forgot how to talk" joke.
abaoa_qu: not bring in the crops but there are a lot of low income families were the kid having a summer job is what allows them to buy clothes and stuff for the next year
TXC2: Mathonwy no worries lrrHEART
abaoa_qu: and a lot of teachers work a second job over the summer to supplement income
pyronils80: Hallo and good evening! :) :) :) Greetings from the other side of the Atlantic ocean! :) :) :) From the land of beer, sauerkraut and real bread! :D :D :D
TXC2: hello pyronils80 welcome
abaoa_qu: damn you gluten, ruining real bread for me
n_mandrag: @pyronils80 servus neighbour then from the land of even better beer and schnitzels
TehAmelie: hi from the land of surströmming and averageness
Mathonwy: Averageness sounds lovely, honestly.
pyronils80: I neber had surströmming! Should I taste it.....????
TehAmelie: it's not a very good translation of the word lagom, but
n_mandrag: "Average Surströmming" is the name of my folk pagan cover band!
Mathonwy: Tired of all of this "interesting times" bs.
beowuuf: wb
pyronils80: never
insane_42: Hello Cam, welcome back
TehAmelie: yay Jacob
Mathonwy: Jacob seems a treat.
Rourke9: delicious!
Plasterboard: Did jacob bake it himself?
bigpuppystuart: A piece of coffee and a mug of cake sound good right now
TehAmelie: there has been no break in hostilities in the kindness war huh
TXC2: damnit, I knew Cameron would comeback if I went to the loo :p
OrkaOrkinus: Silencers are control
Kaorti: very long range, and can auto-cancel overwatch
Plasterboard: Silences your enemies... FOREVER! :)
silverxX59: psilence can get armor pierce
TXC2: it's a sniper rifle, kinda
Kaorti: scattershot is fun too
somecall_metim: @TXC2 the chaos gods cackle at another victim
Kaorti: what if a sniper rifle was also a minigun?
TehAmelie: ooh, purgators are the snipers
TXC2: somecall_metim :d
TXC2: * :D
OrkaOrkinus: They're my personal favorite heavy weapon
Kaorti: slightly reduced damage though.
TXC2: TehAmelie they're more the heavy weapon guys, cannons, snipers, flamers etc
somecall_metim: I think shitting a cameron would be painful
Kaorti: That matters less than you'd think though, because of the damage falloff over half range.
TehAmelie: that sounds like the hero trait in Rogue Legacy, where you start with double health and can never heal
TehAmelie: just a slow attrition until you die
n_mandrag: "Should not be hard" ...which was the precise moment where nurgle exchange the regular cultists with greater daemons of his own
somecall_metim: seems dangerous to constantly teleport
compuNIC: so do Grey knights usually use teleporters? I kinda thought space marines deployed in drop pods
silverxX59: theres a trait where your knight can't die but has lowered will
OrkaOrkinus: Lunette is the best
Dobbykroket: terminators usually use teleporters
Dobbykroket: they're too bulky to fit drop pods IIRC
silverxX59: @compuNIC grey knights infintry can all teleport
OrkaOrkinus: Do you know about the click on the green icon in the bottom right to see where they are?
GDwarble: @Dobbykroket You'd think terminator armour would let them survive reentry just by itself. :P
somecall_metim: the reentry heat? sure, the sudden stop at the bottom?
Dobbykroket: don't think it has bigass retroburners in the soles
TehAmelie: hmm is it reentry when you've never been on the planet before?
transient_b: Hola Cam, how are you?
TXC2: hello transient_b welcome
OrkaOrkinus: Yep... :-)
GDwarble: @TehAmelie "Survive entry" would be somewhat more confusing. :P
GDwarble: @somecall_metim They're Space Marines, I'm sure they'll be fine :P
TXC2: no, NASA has covered this, it's just "entry"
xantos69: Hey Cam, just got here. So is this exactly X-com but 40K?
Dobbykroket: also, yeah, the grey knights are special bois, IIRC they're terminator only?
transient_b: just got back from thr dnd/mtg stream, and ngl the story lately had been really bad for my mental health ☹️
TehAmelie: i guess we can call it "atmospheric braking" to be fancy
TXC2: xantos69 yes
trlarey: @Dobbykroket No, they have space marines too.
compuNIC: @xantos69 Not exactly, but yes
GDwarble: @TehAmelie More a sort-of combined atmospheric and litho-braking
silverxX59: yea grey knights are the only chapter that field terminators as regular troops
trlarey: That is also true
Dobbykroket: oh right, now I remember the regular boi in a massive exosuit
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GhostofJeffGoldblum: So yesterday I learned about something in this game that can hard brick a campaign very close to the end. I don't want to spoil anything for Cam if he's playing totally blind but it's also a *real* unfortunate thing that can happen based on what I was reading D:
TXC2: what the Grey Knights are is all Pyskers
trlarey: Yup
somecall_metim: Hey cam, we talked about Simon Russell Beale in your stream and how he voiced smiley, if you do like tinker tailor, I highly recommend finding the radioplay
compuNIC: oh it does have a count of the side objective in the top left
silverxX59: ill be back chat im gonna get food, be one with the Emperor cam
TXC2: so long silverxX59 stay safe
compuNIC: this could become unfortunate
TXC2: lrrFINE
GhostofJeffGoldblum: mattlrFine
somecall_metim: the bbc has released it as a box set, might be on amazon
compuNIC: 1 more ranged kill to go
TXC2: compuNIC 3 more to go
compuNIC: @TXC2 I thought the objective menu said 1?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: that's a lotta mans
Kaorti: target rich environment!
TXC2: compuNIC pretty sure it was a 3
Kaorti: was that worth it, cultist?
mizzytastic: those are some moist sounding beings
TehAmelie: that was a badass death scene tbh
Ctabbe: that cultist was committed!
GhostofJeffGoldblum: mattlrFine mattlrFine
oldsport77: what happens when the bloom goes to full?
OrkaOrkinus: Last turn before extraction
compuNIC: @TXC2 yup, you're right\
TehAmelie: run through the fire laughing, take a shot and then fall over
TheMerricat: it's nice of him the group up for us too in case we want to nade them
TheMerricat: them phone them
Kaorti: gotta reload first
JoeKim: hello nerds
Kaorti: ooooh!
TXC2: this is when you call in the danger close arty strike :p
OrkaOrkinus: hits allies!
JoeKim: hows the war-com
TXC2: hello JoeKim welcome
TehAmelie: m-m-monster kill
GreasyJoe: Cannon can explode shot yah?
Rourke9: seems logical
TXC2: synergy!
GhostofJeffGoldblum: well that is just rude
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Terminator armor should be basically immune to...all of what just happened.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Hard to balance mechanically though :D
OrkaOrkinus: doesn't matter, you're leaving next turn
Emergent_OS: Good luck!
Elaro_56: It's *magical* filth
TXC2: lrrGOAT
TheMerricat: four of them got up but was too late
DreadfulDrifter: it's filth blessed by the most generous grandfather nurgle
InquisitorGaia: oh i dont know its only the stuff the grey knights were designed to fight against
TehAmelie: pretty nice you get teleported out without needing to reach an extraction point or anythin
OrkaOrkinus: The mission objectives can really hard end a mission. So keep an eye on them.
TXC2: what if tank was more tank?
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n_mandrag: tbh though - if greyknights happened to human-shaped normal cultists... you'ld require 5 digit kill counters to have some sort of balance
Kaorti: shot the seedbearer, didn't get the seed
OrkaOrkinus: Gotta crit to extract the seed
Ctabbe: i think the mission was just to kill seed dudes
PixelArtDragon: You've had one, yes, but what about second seed?
TehAmelie: the game wants you to be on more drugs huh
Traion: Second Apothecary seems good when the other one is injured
theamc2000: Hi Cameron!
Kaorti: It's not the worst thing to field a lightly wounded knight if you have to.
TXC2: hello theamc2000 welcome
swaggytaco: yeah apothecaries tend to sit in the back and pick off targets with the storm bolter
theamc2000: @txc2 hi
Kaorti: I wish the game didn't push you to shuffle relic weapons around before every mission.
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lawful_neutral_wizard: Good morning Cam
Traion: @Kaorti how else would you solve it though?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: a phone in a POCKET?! mattlrPika
TXC2: what will they think of next
TXC2: hello lawful_neutral_wizard welcome
swaggytaco: I wish it came with a mix of Mk VI and Mk III armour
CAKHost: Please never do that again D:
TheMerricat: don't kinkshame Cameron, after a long day of purging heretics you'd want to let off some steam too....
CmdrMadMoe: yep
CmdrMadMoe: 100% counted
Piratical_tendancies: yep, you're down to 7 kills needed in the top left
Kaorti: Astartes have some BDSM overtones. And undertones. Just Tones really.
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CmdrMadMoe: nades dont count as ranged
CmdrMadMoe: apparently
Kaorti: they have an over-head icon
Piratical_tendancies: has a little 3-pronged icon on above their head
Kaorti: It's the same three-pronged skull icon
silverxX59: o/ I'm back
TXC2: welcome back silverxX59
Rourke9: do the chaos cults have a newsletter
Kaorti: knows what knights are, but not what a plasma battery is
Kaorti: smart
GrumblingMoblin: its nice of them to keep taking cover next to exploding things
TXC2: !findquote punishment
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QmonsterGames: I wish 40k content wasn't (almost) always such a sausage fest. The lore is full of giant dangerous women
TXC2: give me lady space marines damnit!
silverxX59: i would love a game with amberly vale in it
QmonsterGames: Sisters of Battle XCOM game, pls? :p
Invitare: doesn't one of the upcoming games star a woman?
n_mandrag: @TXC2 to be fair - spacemarine are not male either anymore. You could easily headcannonn 50 of them being of female origin
silverxX59: there is a sisters of battle vr game
abaoa_qu: This game stars a woman imo
Kaorti: giving exactly 0 fucks
DreadfulDrifter: inquisitor martyr has a fem assassin, and there's apparently a SoB character in the works
QmonsterGames: there's usually a token featured woman
TXC2: n_mandrag eh, they code as male I'd say
abaoa_qu: You would know
Amras0x00: @n_mandrag it's equally uncomfortable when 'non-gendered' things take male defaults for presentation
QmonsterGames: I enjoyed the assassin in Inquisitor Martyr, but I will absolutely jump back in the game if they add a SoB
Kaorti: It's a little hinky but you can set a waypoint next to an enemy to force a melee attack from that square
theamc2000: Nights of Tighten?
Amras0x00: @abaoa_qu having underrepresented people only show up when they're exceptional is not sufficient
n_mandrag: @Amras0x00 hence the "headcannon" part. A spacemarine born female might sound different... but the general shape ? probably pretty much identical after a decade of surgery.
TehAmelie: did you know there is a mod for XCom that does nothing except prevent heavies from being women?
Kaorti: UGH
TehAmelie: cause that one mod maker i guess doesn't like women with muscles
hexi_lexi234: hey all you beautiful friends whomst i love beyond measure! how goes the warhammer 40 thousand?
TXC2: hello hexi_lexi234 welcome
EkstraLangeDruer: hey, some people like their women a bit heavy
TXC2: TehAmelie well fuck them then :p
TehAmelie: hard not to think of that when you see this game
n_mandrag: @TXC2 I don't forsee that happening with that attitude :p
TXC2: n_mandrag A ha ha!
swaggytaco: should have just landed on him LUL
hexi_lexi234: @TehAmelie a wrong opinion, i see
EkstraLangeDruer: quite literally disarmed that guy
silverxX59: man imagine being a cultist and seeing a terminator crash through gunfire to specifically go after you
Kaorti: @EkstraLangeDruer then de-faced him.
PixelArtDragon: @ekstralangedruer Stop the hand, stop the weapon
GhostofJeffGoldblum: you know man you're calling us "monsters" but you're hanging out with dudes with eyeballs on their stomachs, this feels like a pot/kettle situation
GhostofJeffGoldblum: although maybe we are the real monsters for not having stomach-eyes...makes you think...
TehAmelie: maybe eyeball stomachs is just a benign genetic mutation
TheMerricat: @ghostofjeffgoldblum to be fair I think the implication is they are so whacked out on whatever fever dream they're in that they have no idea that you're the actual normal human and they are surrounded by cronenbergs
lawful_neutral_wizard: @GhostofJeffGoldblum As I understand it, 40k lore is essentially a giant series of interlocking pot/kettle situations.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: oh it absolutely is yeah
Spluuga: How's the Icom going?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: except for Slaanesh cultists they're pretty selfaware
TXC2: the Imperium: Kill the Psyker! also the imperium: our god is a psyker
TehAmelie: orks don't have any bad words for their enemies, surely?
pn55: Hmm so the disrupt shot stops overwatch, but not supressing fire...
GhostofJeffGoldblum: @TXC2 and also all of our most trusted agents
Kaorti: suppressing fire is annoying as hell
XandaxDK: It should stop it
OrkaOrkinus: it does but he was in hard cover
GreasyJoe: Enemy was behind cover so it did nothing
n_mandrag: @TXC2 I would have started with "Praise the emperor as a god!" Literal actual Emperor: "Do not worship me or any gods!"
Piratical_tendancies: it does, but he didn't hit
ksenyo: the line was obstructed. There was a red line
XandaxDK: Just not if it's one the one shooting
TXC2: n_mandrag indeed
TXC2: GhostofJeffGoldblum exactly
pn55: Ah, if the shot was obstructed that would explain it.
silverxX59: man i can't wait for a 40 "realism" mod
TXC2: bullets drop, lasers don't ?
TehAmelie: you have to get close to show how tough you are, i guess
TXC2: fair enough then
Piratical_tendancies: yay +1 seed
VerticalMammal: I wish there was digital Kill Team
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Boltgun shells are really big and have low velocity? I dunno I got nothing.
n_mandrag: call a bolterround a bullet and you might as well say a tank is shooting bullets as well..
LadyLockwood92: The only thing I really know about this game is that Y'shtola's VA is in it. Which is neat.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Actually these are Stormbolters, those outrange autoguns in the tabletop o_O
swaggytaco: autoguns are basically just modern automatic rifles
TheMerricat: see auto guns have really small bullets so they travel farther your bullets are like fist-sized so they fall down faster...
TXC2: boltguns are basically machinegun grenade launchers
Invitare: surely they're called "bolts" like with a crossbow?
Spluuga: nah, you gotta talk about clips too
n_mandrag: Bolterrounds do self detonate after a set range though :p
pn55: I think we'll survive Cam lrrBEEJ
VerticalMammal: you have to listen to the band Bolt Thrower to atone for this sin against the Emperor
silverxX59: astral aim can get seeds
CmdrMadMoe: bolter rounds are also rocket propelled
OrkaOrkinus: In the dark future of the 40th millennium there are only decisions made for game balance
abyssaldm: shtola, is that you?
accountmadeforants: @abyssaldm It is
TheMerricat: you know for the longest time I thought bolt throwers were throwing literal steel bolts like the kind you put in girders
Spluuga: @CmdrMadMoe Only some I think
abyssaldm: @abyssaldm Excellent
TXC2: I really want forgotten weapons to do a joke video on the boltgun
n_mandrag: @Spluuga no... they all are.
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stanmechanic: Range limited by hubris, your men refuse to fire until they can see the fear in their enemies eyes. :P
TXC2: TheMerricat the AP rounds may as well be
GhostofJeffGoldblum: you know things seem really bad in this sector, I feel like they should send more than a handful of Grey Knights to deal with this.
Kaorti: two fights worth of xp and rewards
beowuuf: @TheMerricat my headcanon has been shattered, and apparently not by a fast moving bolt :(
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Like maybe send a whole Inquisitorial force.
iondream: uhoh.
TehAmelie: how weird is it that bullet drop is just as fast as if you dropped the same bullet from your hand? it feels like they should be aerodynamic or something
GhostofJeffGoldblum: And, also, Genestealers.
iondream: are the nids in this game?
TXC2: TehAmelie gravity gonna gravity baby
Spluuga: @n_mandrag I might be a few decades behind the lore
TheMerricat: what if you arc the gun @tehamelie
Spades_Slicc: @TehAmelie bullets would have to be *so* shaped to defy gravity
TXC2: how much risk lrrbot?
TXC2: !advice
LRRbot: You don't want sweaty books.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: @TehAmelie gravity: weird
OrkaOrkinus: hull integrity damage
Piratical_tendancies: !box
LRRbot: In the box is: surprisingly turgid cheese blunts
GhostofJeffGoldblum: (not snark, gravity is very weird)
TehAmelie: yeah pointing the gun up gets you some launch of course
GhostofJeffGoldblum: It means the hull has less integrity.
OrkaOrkinus: Ship Hitpoints
Spades_Slicc: Gravity is also slightly lesser in Canada than in the rest of the world
GhostofJeffGoldblum: #helping
accountmadeforants: @OrkaOrkinus Shitpoints, for short
OrkaOrkinus: In the upper left, sorry
TheMerricat: I just realized that if they're tracking hull integrity,
TheMerricat: that probably means we have space combat sometime in this game
TXC2: !break
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Spades_Slicc: Low Hull Integrity means your Hull is more likely to accept bribes
Mushbie: @Spades_Slicc LUL
n_mandrag: @Spades_Slicc but what If I do not live in Hull but in Dover ?
OrkaOrkinus: Argh. Feel bad don't want to backseat but also don't want to cause WTF moments
TehAmelie: and more susceptible to blackmail
OrkaOrkinus: @OrkaOrkinus You sir/madam/them are hilarious
n_mandrag: I wish I would not have to suffer through NFT ads
Spades_Slicc: @n_mandrag then you should hug your local doves and thank them for keeping your integrity intact
Spades_Slicc: @n_mandrag simply mute and unfocus your eyes
TehAmelie: i feel like twitch should be interesed in keeping ads for actual scams off their website
n_mandrag: @Spades_Slicc can't. My urge to rant against useless "get rich schemes" is too strong
GhostofJeffGoldblum: @TehAmelie Twitch might be but I'm not sure their corporate masters are.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: If Amazon says "run this ad" I don't think twitch has much power.
Spades_Slicc: Who thinks I have time for a quick game in Arena's standard ranked queue?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I think every time I' queue for a "quick" game I end up 15-20 minutes over the time I could actually spend on it :D
Badchop: I believe in you
TXC2: only if you play mono red :p
TehAmelie: meanwhile, i've had a nice couple of professionally made, yet super cheap hamburgers made of cheese. yummy.
accountmadeforants: Thanks for the laugh/incredible feeling of power, opponent. https://imgur.com/a/FUV2nU7
Spades_Slicc: As long as my opponent isnt like the last one and toggles on full control and durdles for 6 turns
OrkaOrkinus: Folks who know Cameron's style - when he asks a question is it for affect or for information from chat? Don't want to backseat.
accountmadeforants: (But seriously, just go for the tempo play at that point and make me discard the 2-drop.)
TXC2: !heychat
LRRbot: Please ONLY offer advice when the streamer uses the phrase "Hey, chat...". Let them try to learn the game on their own, even if it means they miss a thing or two.
OrkaOrkinus: @LRRbot sergePrideLove
OrkaOrkinus: thanks @TXC2
TXC2: now of course the real fastest game on arena is HBrawl, where you concede turn one because OPP is the 9th shrine deck in a row you've faced :p
OrkaOrkinus: #TranquilityInStandardWhen
TXC2: not even, I want blood moon, I want to kill 5 colour decks :p
accountmadeforants: Oh yes, Blood Moon would be super rad. (Maybe the upcoming Ixalan set? Since that gave us Blood Sun last time.)
OrkaOrkinus: They do need to slow the roll on easy duals
accountmadeforants: And while we're at it, gimme that Price of Progress
accountmadeforants: (And for TXC's complaint, Bane of Progress would be another nice add :p)
Spades_Slicc: Turns out yes
Spades_Slicc: I had time to lose to mono green bears on turn 5
TXC2: accountmadeforants I don't care much for ETB effects :p
TXC2: and we're back
TehAmelie: howdy
LadyLockwood92: Welcome back ^^
Spades_Slicc: Howdy nerd
Spades_Slicc: Oh I love arguement do go on
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VerticalMammal: technically you can do it as cheap as a recruit box
Spades_Slicc: The shiniest box
VerticalMammal: but no options
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GhostofJeffGoldblum: love a good flesh terror
bigpuppystuart: i am back, my brother got stung by yellow jackets so we had to take steps to elimate them lest they kill the local bees and sting the dogs
VerticalMammal: recruit box is the smallest of the 3 40k starter boxes, its like 35 USD i think, for 10-12ish models, space marines and necrons
accountmadeforants: Huh... that recruit box is unusually non-awful value by GWS standards...
VerticalMammal: yeah like i said no options, just cheapest entry
TXC2: bigpuppystuart ooof stay safe
cronatos: should be easy enough to kitbash both kinds of intercessors with one box and some extra weapons.
bigpuppystuart: Chemicals have been sprayed, water to flood out the ground nest has been put on, and my brother was given benedryl cream. All should be dealt with for the moment
VerticalMammal: @accountmadeforants yeah a lot of times their intro sets are loss leaders, get 'em in cheap ya know
Kaorti: keikaku
TXC2: Star systems, Solar is a proper noun
LadyLockwood92: Yep. That's Robyn Addison. Always like seeing FF14 actors getting more work~
accountmadeforants: That tracks, yeah, VerticalMammal
Spluuga: Oh no, it's the 3D cursor
LadyLockwood92: That AdMech really, *really* wanted eyebrows.
MatthewDennisMTG: The AdMech are so cool
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I'm sure this won't bite us in the ass at all. Nope, never once.
Invitare: *sniffs* smells of psychic
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Chows lmao
lawful_neutral_wizard: Chaos? Those things from Sonic?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Yeah, GW did a crossover with Sonic a long time ago and they just stuck around.
Rourke9: she's awful, which is great
Spluuga: doesn't seem so. I think the intercessor come in dedicated boxes only.
TheMerricat: Chat what are the odds that by the time we get to the end of the campaign at least some of our team has fallen down to chaos
Rourke9: really puts the player in the right mindset
TXC2: TheMerricat 110%
GhostofJeffGoldblum: @TheMerricat I would put those odds at roughly five hundred billion
OrkaOrkinus: Chaos is on the blockchain
n_mandrag: prognosticators ? no no no - the imperium has the best procrastinators! How else do you explain how it could take several generations for a marriage license ?
VerticalMammal: @accountmadeforants still, definitely don't get a resin printer and a cults account. that could lead to heresy...
Rourke9: she's got her priorities straight and I appreciate that
Brozard: In 40K, are the ships alive? Is this some Calus & Leviathan shit?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: The ships aren't alive but they are inhabited by a machine spirit that sooort of us?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: *is
Brozard: hmm
TXC2: Brozard the Tryanid's ships are, otherwise no, I think
eniteris: Are they actually inhabited by a machine spirit or is it just superstition or are there proto-AIs still around?
n_mandrag: yes, yes and yes.
TXC2: the "machine spirit" is a handy euphemism for AI
Rourke9: we do love grenades
n_mandrag: Machinespirits are alot of superstitution, some very advanced expert systems can be said to be quasi ai AND the men of iron - true ais are also around
lawful_neutral_wizard: Hey chat, if I wanted to get into Kill Team, would AdMech be a good starting point?
InquisitorGaia: day 69, nice
TXC2: Nice
VerticalMammal: this seems like a good game for fans of XCom?
anokosecret: i love this game. definitely scratches the xcom itch, but it does irk me that a handful of cultists could cause problems for several terminators
bigpuppystuart: Falchion PUUUNNNNCH
TehAmelie: did that guy just become the Man from Hjelmdal?
accountmadeforants: And to answer your question from shortly after the ad break: Apparently the Black Templars Primaris Crusader Squad box gives you 6 Power Armored bodies and a whole bunch of junk you can combine into Intercessors of both kinds. (Though this is just me searching around a bit, not personal experience.)
VerticalMammal: I thought you said "astral pain" and I was like yeah I think I have that too... LUL
bigpuppystuart: Since Inqusitar Vikar is voiced by y'shtola's VA, FF14 Warhammer40k Crossover when?
n_mandrag: @bigpuppystuart when the cowards at GW acknowledge the existence of the felinids again
laundreydhull: cool James Earl Jones VA
virgil82: I appreciate that the "scout Element" is a Terminator.
bigpuppystuart: Warhammer Vs Predator will also never happen. A loss for us all
Spades_Slicc: Do they really like leashes, or do they really like having leashes removed?
Brozard: Grey Wolfbois
laundreydhull: I know this not, but anyone else would rather say "Darth Vader"
laundreydhull: Especially ME
Spades_Slicc: Simply walk around the patrols
TheM8: is this good? not camerons gameplay and commentaery those are always good. is the game good?
n_mandrag: @bigpuppystuart I wrote a oneshot for onlywar that was basicly aliens vs predators involving a few hormagaunts and a Eldar Striking Scorpion.
laundreydhull: Especially ME: Coming soon to a Studio Stream pitch near you.
dominoman212: this game looks really fun
bigpuppystuart: if you are lucky it will be an onion bloom
CptMuddles: Game seems uhhhhhh mid
Kaorti: I think it's a good tactics game. Rough around a few edges, but It's got payoffs too.
TXC2: TheM8 if you like x-com game yeah
thymato: do the arrows on the markers mean anything?
dominoman212: better than watching MTG reviews/spoilers right now
Prophetx05: I enjoy it, but it can be very irritating at times
CptMuddles: I think Mechanicus might've done a lot of things better tbh
TheM8: k think im putting it on my wish list then and getting it next sale
dominoman212: I haven't played a warhammer game on pc in a very long time... like late 90s early 2000s -- so many options, what do you suggest be a first pick up for a returning player? @LoadingReadyRun
Rourke9: ooh thats a big boy
n_mandrag: @dominoman212 if you like action games - SpaceMarine is a very solid and probably cheap option. For strategy - definitly the first Dawnofwar with mods.
bigpuppystuart: It has Dakka, it has pew, Pretty lasers it will spew, its a Psicannon.
dominoman212: @n_mandrag thanks
pn55: Ooo good plan!
CAKHost: Space is wonderful this time of year!
JadedCynic: You may send one plague marine to space, as a treat.
n_mandrag: @dominoman212 if you enjoy civ-like games, I can wholeheartedly recommend Gladius as well - it has quite a few factions and they all have VERY different feels
dominoman212: is this being played on steam? or is this like a download/disc version of chaos gate?
TXC2: on steam I presume
BrowneePoints: Good afternoon Cam. Good afternoon chat! How are y'all this lovely afternoon? I find myself in high spirits after finding out we're going back to both Eldraine and Ixalan next year!
Enmity777: wheee
swaggytaco: LUL
Kaorti: yay!
Rourke9: beautiful
TXC2: hello BrowneePoints welcom
pn55: HypeLUL
Kaorti: plague marine go in the hole
n_mandrag: yeet and delete !
EkstraLangeDruer: not today
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: is this a new campaign?
CptMuddles: Yeah
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: did skipping tutorial fix the resolve issue?
dominoman212: @n_mandrag i enjoy games more like what we're watching, feels like turn based strategy
bigpuppystuart: yes, old campeign got busted
TXC2: fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn that and lowering difficulty
Spades_Slicc: The patrol is behind you
TheMerricat: @fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn I don't think we've 'tested' that yet.
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: @TXC2 hopefully less arbitrary punishment and more fun this time then
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: @fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn hope it works then
TXC2: hopefully
Spades_Slicc: Yes skipping the tutorial leaves resolve intact
TheElrad: the supression ate most of the Aegis shield
n_mandrag: @dominoman212 if you have a copy of OG xcom lying around, there is a 40k mod around for that as well... which I adore since it lets me field scores of imperial guards, marines or Sister of battle all in one game
BrowneePoints: also the Doctor Who commander decks took me by surprise but i'm intrigued
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: @n_mandrag 40k mod for xcom ew?
dominoman212: @n_mandrag don't have that lol sounds wild though
TheMerricat: https://openxcom.old.mod.io/40k Is it, I think?
theamc2000: How close is this game to tabletop ?
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: oh -original- xcom, wild
TXC2: theamc2000 a little, but not very
compuNIC: x-com versus xcom
theamc2000: Ty
Spades_Slicc: Where has all the damage gone/and where are all the gods
CaffeinatedLemur: hey chat, hows the playthrough going?
TXC2: hello CaffeinatedLemur welcome
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: the overwatch, it does nothing!
TXC2: playthrough is going better this time I'd say
swaggytaco: i wish the bolters would one tap cultists. it feels ridiculous
devryen: Overwatch takes you out of full cover
CptMuddles: That's wild
lawful_neutral_wizard: @Spades_Slicc Isn't there a Grey Knight/To make some cultists bleed
CaffeinatedLemur: yeet the boys
bigpuppystuart: Isn't damage resitence also down due to warp surges?
silverxX59: it depends of the angle
EkstraLangeDruer: Yeah overwatch makes you break cover it's so ridiculous
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: ooof talk about bad design choices
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: i will say for whatever xcom does wrong, it rarely has bullshit moments that arent from just wiffing rng
TXC2: well that sucks
Prophetx05: jeez, I'd forgotten that, I hate it
theamc2000: I saw a guy fly
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kaffeetrinken89: those cultists are really thick
OrkaOrkinus: You don't fail until a guy goes down
theamc2000: Faith is strong sheild
Spades_Slicc: Do you still have a critical injury if you heal up?
CaffeinatedLemur: the critical injury tag is still Blue so you havent failed it yet
CaffeinatedLemur: a Knight hasnt "fainted"
kaffeetrinken89: fainted? is this pokeknights?
CaffeinatedLemur: ok, had a light death and resuscitated
Spades_Slicc: So is "suppressed" like a targeted overwatch?
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: curious if their overwatch also takes them out of cover then
CaffeinatedLemur: Spades_Slicc sort of, it also gives penalties to aim iirc
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: this game really has the power fantasy backwards, huh
CptMuddles: They must get an awful lot of target practice
TXC2: did that knight just try to bat bullets ?
kaffeetrinken89: because of difficulty reasons it could be difficult?
Piratical_tendancies: my personal bugbear is the enemy armour that comes back every turn
accountmadeforants: @TXC2 No harm trying
ravenlord_xix: Definitely seems like they've given the cultist the astartes firepower. Maybe it's a balance issue, as in reality, these cultists would be red smears after the first shot.
kaffeetrinken89: personal bugbear armour sounds powerful
bigpuppystuart: my sleepless night is catching up to me, i am nodding off while listen to the gunfire and squeals of the inflicted
TheM8: did that knock him IN to cover?
KeytarCat: @bigpuppystuart Good nappy sounds 😊
pn55: seabatClap
Prophetx05: This game's difficulty scaling is wild
kaffeetrinken89: just another 67 crits to to reach terminal niceness
KeytarCat: *bifurcated*
CptMuddles: It seems like melee is pretty good in this game? Maybe that's a secret tech?
dominoman212: that barricade they put up was a little tough to get through
CaffeinatedLemur: melee is very stronk
TheM8: not thanks but "GRATITUDE"
TheM8: love that tho
Prophetx05: It is really good, but getting in close can be horrible
CaffeinatedLemur: and how you get the SEEDs on enemies that have
bigpuppystuart: i think so
Prophetx05: yes
Piratical_tendancies: yes
EkstraLangeDruer: Yes, if you go attack that thing it gives you a seed
Spades_Slicc: What are you, a Grey Knight or a Farmer?
CaffeinatedLemur: Yes there are terrain features, but they are marked as melee doable and usually near a bloom tower thingy
pn55: Nice!
VerticalMammal: ooh, death guard?
TheM8: what are the other markers on the map?
TheM8: are they stuff?
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: honestly this stream saved me 60€ and for that, I am grateful
dominoman212: @fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn LUL LUL so not a fan of what you see?
dominoman212: not getting this one?
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: oof no, tight budgets means being pickier than usual
CptMuddles: I appreciate their effort, yeah.
pn55: There is room for improvement, but it does a lot of cool stuff. I definitely want to see them build on this game.
lawful_neutral_wizard: Problems with the grimdark genre or the turn-based tactics genre?
pn55: The engine and ideas are good.
Spades_Slicc: Can any of the cultist units rez downed enemies or is there a specific one that does that?
Rourke9: @lawful_neutral_wizard turn based tactics
CaffeinatedLemur: no line of sight
CptMuddles: The impression I get is that in trying to fix some perceived problems, like overwatch spam, they ended up with feelbads like overwatch taking you out of cover.
plummeting_sloth: I enjoy the question of "do we have grenades left" in a world where many of our battle brothers shoot ammunition that's just grenades
TXC2: Spades_Slicc I think it;s a specific one
TXC2: !next
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Invitare: That enemy soldier... is he a squid... or a kid?
plummeting_sloth: well, at least our enemies are having a good time
GirlPainting: Hey cameron. have you watched the latest episode of made in abyss?
ravenlord_xix: I do really like the visuals of this game, and how a lot of it is very similar to the actual models
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I had to hop on a call but we ran into some Plague Marines, eh?
silverxX59: i hate fighting cultists they just plink you down no matter what stage of the game you are in
CaffeinatedLemur: they are above you
GhostofJeffGoldblum: O_O
TXC2: WHAT?!
GhostofJeffGoldblum: game please
Piratical_tendancies: what?!
CaffeinatedLemur: were there explosive boxes?
Piratical_tendancies: nope
TXC2: well that honks
GhostofJeffGoldblum: yeah that's...not great
CaffeinatedLemur: oh that pipe? iirc that has an ACTION on it that you can do... that was triggered... great
plummeting_sloth: for a second I thought it blew one of your marines off the ledge
TXC2: ^
GhostofJeffGoldblum: it did look like that
Prophetx05: this is one of the only games where "things I wasn't told would happen" made me bump the difficulty down to the bare minimum
CaffeinatedLemur: if a marine gets blown of the ledge they fly back up but hurt
TheMerricat: at least it's not instakill
TXC2: CaffeinatedLemur ok thats less bad
CaffeinatedLemur: but yeah, there are lots of exploding enviromentals
accountmadeforants: @Prophetx05 That's really annoying, because playing these games at higher difficulties is typically pretty fun. (Grievances with XCOM aiming aside, which this game even omits!)
CaffeinatedLemur: you have to try and use them first
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Is this, like, when mom says you have Terminator Armor at home
CptMuddles: Is the reason these weenie mooks have armor because of the difficulty?
accountmadeforants: This is that Divinity: OS 2 fire, i.e. Everything Is Napalm.
CaffeinatedLemur: I mean you get better gear as mission rewards that starts to make a difference, but man do skill points matter
GirlPainting: disgustingly ressilient
TXC2: man this has been a really long mission
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dominoman212: for real
kaffeetrinken89: <message deleted>If Cam continues to complain that much he might aquire honorary german citizenship.
Piratical_tendancies: so many mooks
TXC2: too many one might say
Spades_Slicc: Why does force strike do no damage?
CaffeinatedLemur: out of WP
Spades_Slicc: Ooooh
CaffeinatedLemur: If you have no WP special moves dont activate, so you gotta get a kill to restore it
TheMerricat: so chat, is wp a 'per map' resrouce or does it regen as the turns pass?
CaffeinatedLemur: TheMerricat it recharges on kills
Prophetx05: it regens on kills
CaffeinatedLemur: per unit
CptMuddles: Does this game not have that feature where you can alt/ctrl/whatever and see vision previews for movement? Bleh.
CaffeinatedLemur: CptMuddles you can see lines of sight as light blue lines when you are planing your move but its easy to miss
pn55: Nice
TheMerricat: man having a healer on the team rocks....
GhostofJeffGoldblum: right, this mission was too easy I guess.
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: are you still on legendary, cam?
Spades_Slicc: So I heard you needed WP
TXC2: I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo nope, this is ruthless
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: yeesh, i barely notice a difference from yesterday
CptMuddles: Strong choice from the designers to have *two* reinforcement mechanics.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: this isn't even the hardest difficulty? dear lord.
CaffeinatedLemur: for 1 turn
GhostofJeffGoldblum: oh come on game
pn55: Uhh...
CaffeinatedLemur: yeah I am not a fan of the warp penalties
HolyHadouken: +5 armor? huh. Parley?
CaffeinatedLemur: one of the ones you can get is "-1 WP for the rest of the mission" which is just mean
Prophetx05: This game feels like it was designed to be "Hard" more often than it was designed to be difficult
Spades_Slicc: @CaffeinatedLemur Is there a Warp Surge effect that isn't mean?
CptMuddles: The late game weapons have gotta be wack if +5 armor is what the mooks are balanced against.
CaffeinatedLemur: Spades_Slicc I mean having one Knight stunned or hobbled for a turn isnt the worst
CaffeinatedLemur: also the warp portals can be closed before they open
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Spades_Slicc: Why didn't that Knight get to punch
Piratical_tendancies: There's a lot of information that's just not very well communicated
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I feel like the game applies different rules to the player and the enemies.
TheMerricat: there does seem to be a bit of a disconnect between the "these are literal killing machines genetically and mechanically enhanced to tear through this sort of mob" and "we need to keep the player from being a munchkin..." in this sort of game but.... this is a b it much
Prophetx05: this game overcompensates way to much, and the patches have definitely made some of it worse by nerfing player abilities
Prophetx05: *too
silverxX59: i wish nurgle was my grandfather
TXC2: trust me, you don't
silverxX59: mortatian did nothing wrong
silverxX59: it was all tychus' fault
CaffeinatedLemur: yeah, I kinda wish there were more like I was an elite knight plowing through the cultists... but you know... disconnect
silverxX59: pinned is -1 ap
Piratical_tendancies: -1AP
CaffeinatedLemur: ^
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Ludonarrative dissonance in 40K games where you play as Space Marines is always pretty strong, but it seems especially so here.
CaffeinatedLemur: GhostofJeffGoldblum it's odd its like there are enough dangerous baddies for these guys, we dont need the scrubs to be tanks and hit as hard as them
CptMuddles: Feels like they definitely could've kept the numbers as-is and toned down the other stuff, yeah. At least this early on.
Prophetx05: yeah, plague marines are a fair match, cultists should be smears fo red
TheMerricat: See if this weren't an xcomlike, they could have just made the cultists 20 times in number and use the 'we bury you in bodies' method of doing this, but since they are playing xcom, you need to be able to 'tactical' it.
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: the cultists should be like those one tap zombies from the xcom2 expansion
theamc2000: The creators of this game were upset at the lack of cult cultist
CaffeinatedLemur: we need to get the Apothacary a kill so he can heal again
General_Torfstecher: You will not like it
Piratical_tendancies: you won't like it at all...
CptMuddles: Don't forget that the one tap zombies refunded your actions. I think?
CaffeinatedLemur: my advice for the bloom spawn, get in close, melee it, it only atacks from distance
GhostofJeffGoldblum: @TheMerricat Yeah, the Dawn of War II campaign did a good job here. You control 4 squads of 1-3 marines each and you absolutely mow down entire maps full of enemies. The big challenges are things like "200 Hormagaunts charging you simultaneously" or "a fucking Avatar of Khaine"
CptMuddles: That's an awfully cuddly-looking fungus
CaffeinatedLemur: if you can get a marine ontop of the portal before it opens it will fail
General_Torfstecher: Stay away and kill the minis first. At least 14 squares
TXC2: !backseat
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accountmadeforants: GhostofJeffGoldblum ...I should play DoW II again.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Me too tbh
CaffeinatedLemur: sorry I will behave
Prophetx05: another way you may be able to help this game is to allow squad size increasing
CaffeinatedLemur: Prophetx05 yeah, if like in RogueTech you could bring along more units, or more support units
CptMuddles: I do rather miss the massive squads of old xcom
Prophetx05: and the increase doesn't need to be huge, just let me bring one or two more marines
TheMerricat: So Cameron had a hard time waking up today, I on the other hand am starving for some reason despite having already eaten around 2000 calories in leftover taco bell...
CaffeinatedLemur: TheMerricat left over taco bell? Why child, why!?
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FelanEntane: good grief this mission is way too long
Prophetx05: it is, this happens a lot for me, mission fatigue
TXC2: "like the cleaning of a house....it never ends"
TheMerricat: @CaffeinatedLemur I love leftover taco bell, and it's about the only fast food that is still cheap these days.
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TXC2: hello Raiders!
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TheMerricat: Welcome raiders! We are in part 23 of a single mission, the game is still awesome and bullshit at the same time. :D
CaffeinatedLemur: Hi raiders!
Rourke9: seabatBRAIN unarmeHeart seabatBRAIN unarmeHeart
SkylerRingtail: Haven't been able to make it live. How's the restart going? ...Oh. Oh dear.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: it's fine everything is fine mattlrFine
TXC2: SkylerRingtail it;s going
TheMerricat: @SkylerRingtail We haven't lost anyone yet, unlike last go, but man the game's teaching Cameron all it's hidden mechanics the hard and painful way
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Wow.
TXC2: damnit we were so close
bigpuppystuart: Ruthless difficulty
SkylerRingtail: @TheMerricat Yeahhhh...it's rough. Played it through on Normal before trying a Legendary run, myself. There's a lot of "oh, that would have been good to know" moments
CptMuddles: My favorite part about the weenies is how they bring each other back if you don't kill all of them in one turn, except they all have armor so you need to focus fire.
SkylerRingtail: Loved the game overall, but it certainly could communicate many things better
CptMuddles: Beating a game and learning its tricks can be totally satisfying!
Prophetx05: I really like this game, but it definitely does things different that it didn't need to make different
General_Torfstecher: I thought space marine would slaughter they way through but, well shit
SkylerRingtail: @CptMuddles This game has a lot of tricks to learn, sadly. Especially later when it comes to spoilery stuff
TheMerricat: why isn't willpower recharging chat?
Anexmedia: @TheMerricat I think it only comes back after combat ends
TXC2: maybe you don't get willpower from kill resurrected units
TheThromborax: I see that these Space Marines attended the Tom Hardy School of Face-Mask Eloqution
Piratical_tendancies: possibly because those were reanimated enmeies?
SkylerRingtail: @TheMerricat I didn't see what enemy it was, but if I recall small fry (e.g. summoned husks) don't give WP
TehAmelie: ooh, it's so much worse than WotC zombies
GhostofJeffGoldblum: see this is why these games need an "undo" button
TXC2: so this has been what? an hour so far on this one mission?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: because sometimes the game goes "you click here? you click here." while you yell "no, game, no."
CptMuddles: An undo button would make so many of these games a billion times more tolerable.
TheThromborax: They put an undo button in the mobile version of Into The Breach, and it is my everything, Jeff Ghostbloom
TehAmelie: but you'd have no undo in Ironman mode
TheMerricat: am I recalling falsely chat? didn't xcom have an undo?
bigpuppystuart: How can auto riffles even penetrate Astartes armor?
SkylerRingtail: @TheMerricat For movement? No I don't think so
SkylerRingtail: It didn't even have a confirmation like this one does
TheMerricat: @bigpuppystuart Cameron has mentioned that several times this stream :D
TehAmelie: no, just save states
TXC2: bigpuppystuart the same way water turns rock into sand
shendaras: It was 3 turns total I believe?
SkylerRingtail: 2 more turns according to the top left
GhostofJeffGoldblum: 3 turns, I believe it said
bigpuppystuart: yeah and i have been falling asleep from a rough night, i think i missed a lot of questions and answers
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Rourke9: your weapons do seem weirdly short range
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: that turtling penalty is going to hit 100% while we wait for the cloud to go away isnt it
GhostofJeffGoldblum: there's a turtling penalty?
GirlPainting: that reminds me...i still have 2 ministrotum containers to buuld and paint
TheThromborax: god, the Swiftly Tilting Cameron memories are so strong
SkylerRingtail: I wish I could remember how the miasma works. I don't recall if it applies a status effect that stays when you leave it, or only while you stand in it'
TXC2: maybe the dev's thought storm bolters were a SMG type weapon ?
GhostofJeffGoldblum: This has graduated into "made up horseshit," I think.
GirlPainting: this brother needs to be put for 5 rotations to the shooting range
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: @GhostofJeffGoldblum I am assuming the % on top that increases every turn and brings enemy reinforcements or whatever is effectively a turtling penalty
abaoa_qu: They have full cover, there is no missing
QuantumTwitch: At least the game is self aware on how irritating it is :)
SkylerRingtail: Not a miss; it has to deal damage. If that helps. One of those "could be more clear to the player" things
TheMerricat: miasma ends next turn
GirlPainting: top left
TheMerricat: Upper left
GhostofJeffGoldblum: It'll be some other, new horrible thing.
Spades_Slicc: Or it'll do something worse
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: it's going to do -something- next turn but doesnt have to be miasma does it?
BrindleBoar: the gift that keeps giving
TheThromborax: 3k gift subs, TM? that's astonishing
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Oh, cool.
TheMerricat: Yeah, that was back when I still had a job :D
GirlPainting: ouchi
tlowey1394: @fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn there are lots of horrible things it can give lol
SkylerRingtail: Another thing the game doesn't make clear: overwatch can cause you to step out of cover, depending how you aim it
bigpuppystuart: i think the game is cheating
TXC2: My Gods why will this mission not end?
MilkInBags: The game is just like the codex: no mistake, very clear and no oversight seabatBRAIN
TheThromborax: chaaaaarge (?)
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: oof this game oof
GhostofJeffGoldblum: it has been seventeen (17) days since we began this mission
TheMerricat: Chat remember when we started this mission thinking "this'll be easy?"... I don't but I'd like to pretend....
MilkInBags: Did they fix the thing where your healers just fall behind in XP because only kills award XP?
TheThromborax: isn't interminably long warfare one of the hallmarks of Space Marine warfare? Thousand day engagements, etc
SkylerRingtail: (Hey chat, what's our policy on unprompted advice? I don't want to compound frustration)
TXC2: !heychat
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TheMerricat: !heychat
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MilkInBags: it seems to be like a long cliff, it's unclear though what's going on
tlowey1394: @MilkInBags still the same XP for kills and a small amount for finishing the mission.
SkylerRingtail: So Wheeler advice rules, as it were. Got it.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: wh...what
MilkInBags: huh
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: maybe has cover maybe doesnt have cover
GhostofJeffGoldblum: did that plant just kill aguy
GhostofJeffGoldblum: was there any indication the plant was going to kill a guy
abaoa_qu: When they are in deep cover overwatch works. Alternative option is to just ignore and kill bloomspawn
GirlPainting: that came out of nowhere
SkylerRingtail: Second time that unit went down this mission, yeah?
MilkInBags: seabatNogood
GhostofJeffGoldblum: that felt very mean spirited
GhostofJeffGoldblum: like, nothing int he game seemed to signal that was over there and would attack
TXC2: so I guess I missed something bad?
TheThromborax: a piece of furniture killed a guy
TheThromborax: mimic-like
lannersong: Did i just come back to an xcom style game doing something cruel and withholding of information to the player again?
GirlPainting: maybe something less frustrationg? how about Elden Ring? ^^
SkylerRingtail: @TXC2 Artillery bulb murdered a unit
MilkInBags: I guess you're supposed to realize it's an enemy because of the portrait at the bottom right but, that's a stretch
TXC2: TheThromborax oh dear
TheMerricat: @TXC2 the plant we are suppose to kill naded the guy who had already taken a knee once and killed him
bigpuppystuart: you did say you are sleepy today so that is your excuse
KeytarCat: @TXC2 Weird cover interaction followed by a plant casually bombing a unit sans warning
TXC2: thanks chat
Rourke9: yea this seems frustrating
MilkInBags: nature sucks!
GhostValv: makes sense
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I would describe this game as "not at all respecting the player"
QuantumTwitch: soo that was realy clear I for one thought it was part of the terrain
TXC2: that's 100% fair Cameron
lannersong: yeah absolutely fair. Shame it's doing stuff like this.
TheThromborax: If you stream the uninstaller, I'll watch that
Prophetx05: There were many reasons I only play this on its lowest difficulty, if at all
CommiePuddin: Is it bad?
virgil82: It really shows its X-Com roots.
CommiePuddin: (sorry just got here)
MilkInBags: Play It Backward Back To The Game Store To Get A Refund
tlowey1394: This is what happens when you play a new game on legendary
lannersong: It's why i love Into the Breach - that game is all about surfacing the details and letting you make an appropriate course of action with all factors considered
TXC2: CommiePuddin Cameron said he liked how it fixed some problems X-com had, obviously that doesn't cover this bullshit
lannersong: When games do stuff like this i can't uninstall fast enough.
SkylerRingtail: @CommiePuddin Personally I loved the game, but there's a LOT of mechanics that aren't obvious, a lot of critical information hidden in enemy descriptions, etc)
TheMerricat: @LoadingReadyRun so someone mentioned the OG Xcom (dos era) has a Warhammer mod that they liked... if you want a game to swap in. :D
GhostofJeffGoldblum: That plant thing was just nonsense.
QuantumTwitch: This feels like a game that is for people that feel that XCOM is a little to predictable and easy apperently
KeytarCat: @CommiePuddin hasn't telegraphed a few things that merc'd friendlies. So not inherently, but learning it isn't fun rn
virgil82: @CommiePuddin Ehh... It puts you in the narrative of being OP Space Marines, and then the gameplay of X-Com getting killed by chuds that are way more dangerous than you are.
bigpuppystuart: this game is likely more fair on the normal difficulties
TXC2: this is what? mission 4? no way a mission this early should be this long
GhostofJeffGoldblum: this is mission 4?!
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I assumed I had missed a ton of streams
Prophetx05: It is more fair on lower difficulties if only that not every enemy is a walking bunker
SkylerRingtail: @GhostofJeffGoldblum Mission 4, Ruthless difficulty.
Rourke9: @bigpuppystuart it seems like its not just the difficulty, but really poor communication on the part of the UI etc
TheMerricat: @GhostofJeffGoldblum So we had two streams prior but that was the highest difficulty run and it got.... hard locked due to bullshit.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Always good when a game has hard failure states.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Definitely great design :D
CptMuddles: Has Cam ever tried Mechanicus? Not that now's a great time of course.
QuantumTwitch: I belive that line of sigth is not blocking when computer shoots but not when you shoot.
lannersong: @TXC2 after mission 1 they are ALL this long.
TheThromborax: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 3:53:12.
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: and another surge
TXC2: lannersong F that then
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Cam frankly I admire your resolve, I would have alt f4'd a half hour ago.
lannersong: it's why i dropped up so fast even on normal
GhostValv: fair enough
Rourke9: yea that seems fair.
Piratical_tendancies: Fair
accountmadeforants: And on account of chat talking about it, I think I can still recommend DoW II as a squad-based (albeit real-time) Spehs Mehreen game (in fact, I've reinstalled it just now). Though it's very possible it hasn't aged as well, because Steam also informed me I last played it... 11 years ago.
Rourke9: I'm sorry this was such a bad experience
CptMuddles: I respect your respect for your time, Cam.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Yeah so that game has some design issues huh
TXC2: thanks for streaming Cameron
Rourke9: Thanks for the stream!
accountmadeforants: And I can appreciate you not taking this game's shit.
GhostValv: thanks for the attempts :)
QuantumTwitch: That felt bad. I thought it would be better balanced
Piratical_tendancies: Thanks for going for it Cam
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: gw quality game
lannersong: do not fault you. you'll find something you'll fall in love with!
Piratical_tendancies: lrrSHINE lrrSHINE lrrSHINE
MyOnlyAliasIsTaken: Sorry this game betrayed your buy-in and wasted your time :(
TXC2: ^
GhostofJeffGoldblum: It fundamentally doesn't respect the player. I get it.
bigpuppystuart: I am tempted to gift you Aliens Fireteam but i am not sure that is your style of game
Rourke9: yea it seems like not a fun experience
AquaKaZam: thanks for playing this game Cam, its been fun to watch and looks like a game I would enjoy!
lannersong: you're a treat as always, Cam
TheThromborax: No shame in taking out the garbage
QuantumTwitch: I recomend going back to the old 40k games
TXC2: !next
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Rourke9: which is a shame because it seemed like it was doing some cool stuff
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Seconding the recommendation I saw for Mechanicus, that's an actually pretty good 40K XCOM style game
GhostofJeffGoldblum: and significantly less bullshit
TXC2: !events
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bigpuppystuart: later Cam
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GhostofJeffGoldblum: poor Cam
GhostofJeffGoldblum: that looked like just the worst time
TheMerricat: It sucks when a game you are looking forward to just disappoints you that badly.
SkylerRingtail: Really sad it ended up like this, but if I had had such a rough early game experience I'd have done the same. Best wishes to Cam
Juliamon: Time to watch today's Memoriam installment
TXC2: yeah, I think Cameron made the right choice there, game was not respecting our time or intelligence.
TehAmelie: now i'm tempted to try Into the Breach
TXC2: Goodnight everybody
Metric_Furlong: !box
LRRbot: Box box box!
Metric_Furlong: box
TehAmelie: in which Lrrbot becomes Boxbot
Juliamon: cool cool cool
accountmadeforants: Oh dang, Dawn of War II actually runs fine in 21:9 aspect ratio. Bless these PC devs from back when monitor aspect ratios weren't all 16:9.
accountmadeforants: (Though obviously those were usually more towards the vertical height end, rather than horizontal.)