RockPusher: !search for treasure
LRRbot: You find: a Pit Trap!
TehAmelie: thinking of this video i saw where some AI techs show Hayao MIyazaki these procedurally generated animations and he goes "i strongly feel this technology is an insult to life itself"
RockPusher climbs out of a pit having been freshly aerated
Metric_Furlong: yes, I believe I've seen that one
TehAmelie: it's so beautiful. the way the guys just immediately shut uo
TehAmelie: i think the exact word for their feeling is "crestfallen"
TehAmelie: *shut up
Metric_Furlong: rare example of people on the internet posting something Miyazaki actually said, too Kappa
Juliamon: You mean anime WASN'T a mistake? Kappa
GapFiller: ironically enough as a (lazy) republican actually prefer us keeping the royal family given the track record of the British (particularly the English) having an elected head of state wd mean president Jeremy Clarkson within a month
GapFiller: among a bunch of other equally esoteric reasons
Metric_Furlong: I would contend that if you would prefer we keep the monarchy then you aren't a republican, lazy or otherwise :p
GapFiller: it feels we achieved as much as can be done on that front in 1689
TheMerricat: I just check chat and I feel like two completely alien to each other conversations are going at the same time :D
GapFiller: much as everyone dreams of uprooting the society in its entirety that remains a dream
Juliamon: We're discussing the follies of human
GapFiller: !next
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Metric_Furlong: TheMerricat quick, let's try and go for a third Kappa
Earthenone: !findquote human
LRRbot: Quote #2790: "Yay. Another person, human, man." —Heather, in monotone [2016-06-14]
RockPusher: TheMerricat so chat is normal then :D
GapFiller: any good vidya gaem news in 2023?
Juliamon: I dunno abt good, but interesting, anyway
Juliamon: WotC cancelled several mystery projects
Metric_Furlong: @Juliamon yes. also that The Kingdom of Dreams and Madness is actually a very good documentary into animated film making and really deserves to be known for something other than an incorrectly subtitled screenshot :p
GapFiller: yeh saw that doesnt seem terribly great
TheMerricat: @Metric_Furlong I mean all of my conversation today has been about how Hasbro's attempt to change the OGL impacts 3rd party publishers of non D&D system works who used the OGL to let other people create stuff for their system and if it'll mean they owe Hasbro royalties or not but sure.... :P
CAKHost: Happy First Year ReUploading Unskippable!
TehAmelie: the life-insulting properties of AI art generation is probably only a paranthesis in chat history
CAKHost: (In terms of I think all the 2009 videos are up now?)
Metric_Furlong: TehAmelie I mean, if we're talking about modern 'AI Art' that just sort of struck as being 'what the NFT crowd have moved onto now that bottom's fallen out of their original market'
Metric_Furlong: but tbh I haven't really read too much into it
GapFiller: yeh per the wiki Halo Wars is the last 2009 and thats gone up
TehAmelie: ah, i really have to dig in to the Unskippables at some point. perhaps right now
Juliamon: welcome to the new grift, same as the old grift
GapFiller: and Last Rmnant is first 2010 and thats not up yet
Metric_Furlong: @Metric_Furlong ah, yeah I'd heard about that. Seems less than ideal for a lot of people who don't work for Hasbro
TheMerricat: @Metric_Furlong TBH while i understand why creatives are upset over AI Art, I'm also of the opinion that other than the fact that most of the publicly available tool have been trained on 'stolen' artwork they didn't have the rights to, everything everyone says is horrible about AI Art was true about CGI before it was AI driven it's just another group of people pissed that someone found a faster and easier way to get 80% of the way to what they spend a lot of time and effort learning to do.
TehAmelie: and yeah i mean we know chat is really on the same page about AI art. which is the page of Miyazaki
GapFiller: on a lighter AI note anyone been reading QC lately?
Juliamon: I think I saw some news about a new PS5 controller? Which seems like a potentially neat thing
Earthenone: was there homework this week or is it still canceled for the holidays?
Juliamon: Still on holiday
awmcmillan: still homework free
TehAmelie: oh yes QC is so good
GapFiller: always hated calling watching this weeks episode homework
RockPusher: GapFiller Moray is great lrrAWESOME
GapFiller: really frames it in a manner thats negative to me
TheMerricat: QC = Questionable Content? I fell behind on reading that before COVID, I assume it's still going strong?
They_Are_Alyx: Title change!
Juliamon: same GapFiller I'm much more a fan of the "trailer" take
GapFiller: RockPusher Moray IS great
Juliamon: speaking of long-running comics I hear there's fresh CAD drama
accountmadeforants: @Juliamon Honestly, it felt a bit PR chest-drummy for me. Microsoft asked Sony to make the Adaptive Controller supported by PlayStation back in 2018, and now, 5 years later, Sony's got a "Coming soon(tm)" of basically the same thing? Why not just support the solution that's already out there?
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TehAmelie: i did write an angry post about what i thought was going to be the future of the comic where Marten moves to Cubetown and leaves something like 40-50 people behind "without question", but now it seems that may not be what'
TehAmelie: is going to happen
Juliamon: accountmadeforants I mean, it's likely they *really* don't want to be seen as cooperating with MS right now
TheMerricat: @Juliamon Sony, adopting technology NOT made in house?
Metric_Furlong: @TehAmelie I mean, to be fair, Miyazaki was making a more specific point about movement animation, but I would imagine he's probably not overly fond of the current AI Art stuff either
TehAmelie: you are correct
accountmadeforants: TheMerricat Excellent point
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Fantusta: Let's chill!
beowuuf: good point
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Juliamon: Sony's not been a fan of sharing for awhile, very "we'll make our own, with blackjack, and hookers"
Juliamon: Nintendo's very aware of that
beowuuf: and two clowns?
NewtyNewts: Let's chill HahaPoint
GapFiller: Juliamon tbf walled gardens tend to be the norm in the tech industry
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GapFiller: for worse as much as for better
beowuuf: happy new year!
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TheMerricat: Chillpoint is never late, it is always exactly when it wants to be.
TehAmelie: hello chill...ites?
Juliamon: Well, that's the opening clip of this year's highlights
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beowuuf: there are scary pictures of people trying to decide that :p
betweenmyself: There is no escaping the inevitable march of time riffYeti
accountmadeforants: It's weird, because the PS3 (and through back-compat, the PS4 for some games) basically supported DInput with no weird licensing nonsense. It's really the PS5 when they locked things down.
RockPusher: Pikman are chrononauts?
GapFiller: Juliamon phun phact learned this week while talking to someone abt this weeks QC; the free open software movement was largely started by people mad abt proprietary printer tech
Juliamon: oh lord, yeah, printer tech
Juliamon: there's a mess
CAKHost: Yeah, yeah...
accountmadeforants: (And for what it's worth, the Switch also supports basically any DInput controller. They just can't wake the console.)
CAKHost: I only have played Hey Pikimin! and you just throw them at stuff. :(
Mai_Andra: oh, they got Religion
constablecrab: Are Pikmin just modern Lemmings?
beowuuf: ah, i thought you meant 2023 :p
beowuuf: 9hrs of stream :p
NewtyNewts: Square wave, not sine wave
Juliamon: Never not always checkpointing
CAKHost: AKA: check the blackboard some point before next week's chillpoint. Kappa
beowuuf: The CP continuum are the villains of Sun Wanderings
JessKay: the chances of being checkpointed are low, but never zero
dunderhosen: it's ok, we can just let you know next week if it happened
TheMerricat: Beej, if you all are stuck in an XCom-like universe, I offer my sincere condolences.
NightValien28: that thing is so cool
raulghoulia: Hey Leonardo. She likes me for me
GrassVortex: More accessibility is just a good thing for everyone. So I'm glas Sony finally jumped on this train
beowuuf: it's glados's new form in portal 3
GrassVortex: *glad
red_shoes_jeff: C A P T A I N .
TheMerricat: NGL I almost want a controller like that even without accessibility issues....
CAKHost: I Can't Let You Do That. It Is Not Accessible.
breadisbest1: !next
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Tiber727: What's weird to me is I don't think the Xbox accessibility controller was made for profit, so Sony just decided that they wanted to compete in not making money?
beowuuf: !schedule
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CodeIndigo: teeth teeth teeth
GapFiller: did somebody say TEETH!?
BusTed: thejen9Teeth
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DeM0nFiRe: I think maybe they are different shapes so that you can tell by feel which is what?
CAKHost: How did that get on the bingo board?! XD
Sarah_Serinde: I think the idea is that you can pick which shaped buttons you want for each function
Sarah_Serinde: It looks like everything is interchangeable
TheMerricat: Some of the 'teeth' are concave vs convex because your hand may not be able to reach over there from where it's centered.
NightValien28: maybe its just a quirky design thing
NewtyNewts: So... this is two full-hand sticks that can switch over to big buttons?
Mai_Andra: I think the different shapes are just so you set markers to let you find the buttons by touch.
accountmadeforants: There's 3.5mm jacks for different inputs, too
TheMerricat: Reminder this is an accessibility controller, it's designed so that regardless of the accessibility issue you have, you can get the most function out of it.
CodeIndigo: Yeah, no shade against the controller at all, accessibility is good
accountmadeforants: The Ars article has the 3.5mm jacks in one of the pictures: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/01/sony-announces-new-controller-aimed-at-gamers-with-disabilities/
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accountmadeforants: (Which is the same thing the Adaptive Controller does)
eshplode: It's interesting that these look like one or two big controllers vs the Microsoft one that seems like a lot of smaller controllers and buttons
accountmadeforants: The Adaptive Controller was immediately released back in 2018 yeah.
TurnedToFrog: Either a pillow or spike pad could help with the table slamming
accountmadeforants: And they were supposedly in talks with both Sony and Nintendo to have their consoles support it. And now Sony announces the exact same thing 5 years later PrideShrug
CAKHost: They want to do their own thing, most likely.
rubikdarkwill: It would be nice, but we are talking of a Japanese company. They are usually walled gardens
accountmadeforants: Through Steam, yeah
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accountmadeforants: But not by default
Outis_190: i have a dongle that i can plug into my switch to wirelessly use Xbox one controller
PMAvers: Steam handles everything, and so technically a Steam Deck would take 'em while docked.
mercano82: I think SteamDeck will take them all.
JessKay: Switch Pro Controller is a bit messy on PC but possible, the other two are more or less just plug and play yeah
CodeIndigo: heh heh heh, dongle
Drasvin: Steam will allow PC to use PS5 controllers
accountmadeforants: The Switch itself also supports a great deal of controllers quite easily.
NewtyNewts: Ooh, cyberpunk news?
NightValien28: what did they do now
GrassVortex: *sidh* what did they do now?
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TheMerricat: Justice for Rachel!!!!
CodeIndigo: take your pick: bugs, crunch, or transphobia
GapFiller: CodeIndigo or epilesy
kusinohki: "how bad was it?!"
kusinohki: Hi all
beowuuf: sergeHi
accountmadeforants: No, they had a special yellow Xbox, I'm pretty sure
accountmadeforants: An Xbox One, at that
Brozard: Yep, my friends have one @accountmadeforants
terribleplan: CP2077 is mostly playable now. it is not a good game. It is nowhere near what was advertised or promised.
GapFiller: the refund thing was the deal breaker for Sony in particular
GapFiller: iirc Sony said we dont do refunds so clearly the game is imncomplete
GapFiller: and we dont sell incomplete games
dunderhosen: if you're a public company
Outis_190: "you didn't tattle on yourself to your wallet"
accountmadeforants: That's usually how directors of private companies get ousted, yeah
niccus: that's a hamlet at best
TheMerricat: That's actually not a small amount. A share today is going for $7.20 per share so $0.49 is a large chunk
Brozard: @themerricat and it was $18-31 during 2020
Outis_190: best class action I've been a part of: the ACT testing company flagged the scores of disabled students when reporting them to universities. i think I've gotten ≈$200
Drasvin: Baba Is You!
accountmadeforants: LUL
GrassVortex: LUL
NewtyNewts: LUL
PMAvers: The dev puts out a *lot* of little games, like last year's "The Plumber Thing" for Halloween.
shea_wolfe: LRR should have someone try "It's a Me" it's a hoot
accountmadeforants: Baba Files Taxes vs. Turnip Boy Commits Tax Evasion? Which is better?
TimIAm: !next
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Tiber727: Baba Defends Turnip Boy in Court.
Brozard: Baba is a 1099 Contractor
TheDailyMapleSyrup: neat
accountmadeforants: Brb, downloading this right now :p
margieargie: Hm, wonder if I can use my drawing tablet with that part :p
Mai_Andra: Mysterio is thobbing at you in the margin there... =|
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RockPusher: Baba is Audit
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TheMerricat: "Hitman 3 will transform into World of Assassination to cut down on confusion"
RockPusher has played Hitman and Hitman II, but not Hitman and Hitman II
Anubis169: there are the originals, the spin-offs, and the current World Of Assassination universe
CaptainSpam: So... which version had the Pokey the Penguin easter egg?
CodeIndigo: @CaptainSpam Probably Hitman, not to be confused with Hitman
CaptainSpam: @codeindigo Oh, you mean Hitman?
Anubis169: Still fewer releases than Skyrim
CodeIndigo: Who could have foreseen that Square Enix owning a property would make it confusing?
Boon_33: can't tell if Paul was accurately describing this or having a stroke
CAKHost: Heather XD
AshBurnem: Assassination Classroom was great.
CodeIndigo: @Boon_33 both
GrassVortex: extraWhy
beowuuf: so hat we're saying is filing taxes is less confusing?
dunderhosen: "Hitman: World of Assassination" sounds like a Ratatouille crossover where "everyone can be a hitman!"
CAKHost: They made an Assassination Classroom game on the 3DS! But it only came out in Japanese.
Mai_Andra: Creedence Assassination Revival Infinite
beowuuf: @Boon_33 i think trying to describe the thing induced the stroke
CodeIndigo: @Mai_Andra & Knuckles
CAKHost: I got a copy because I was interested in trying to play it and also learn Japanese too.
Anubis169: Aww shit... where Deluxe is the actual game, and the regular has bits removed
Boon_33: @beowuuf me too
TheMerricat: I would assume they use the Steam Depot for Hitman 3 and just rename it. But who knows.
CodeIndigo: they fixed the problem of not making money off of games that have already been purchased
Cptasparagus: yeah they do have rotating maps and new content
Anubis169: Elusive Targets
CodeIndigo: OUCH
AveryCorvus: They've paused regular updates while they work on the World of Assassination overhaul, which is going to be a roguelike variant in the game
Juliamon: oh nooo
margieargie: Oops...
TheMerricat: Special targets that you could target that 'disappear' 'forever' if you don't kill them in the window of time they are there.
Boon_33: equal opportunity to be... assassinated, that's actually a debuff
beowuuf: someone want to put this in to the drunk girlfriend talking to her bored boyfriend meme template? Kappa
Boon_33: or a buff
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Outis_190: whose on first?
CodeIndigo: THIRD BASE!
TemporallyAwry: Eyes glazing over ... huh, wut?
CodeIndigo: And then you buy New Super Mario Bros 2
CAKHost: Oh dear I have gone cross-eyed.
margieargie: Ah, yes, I finally understand everything.
eshplode: The way you migrate your save file to the new version also sounded painful if I remember right
mercano82: Super Mario 2, Super Mario All Stars, or Super Mario Advance?
Cptasparagus: one of the biggest factors in this is that they wanted to put the hitman 1 and 2 games into 3 so you could jsut play them all
Cptasparagus: so they decided to just do that forever
Juliamon: Lost Levels 2 or Doki Doki Panic 2
Outis_190: okay, am i actually losing it, are they alternating between "pikman" and "hitman"???
Cptasparagus: @Outis_190 hickman
PMAvers: Who's to say Captain Olimar isn't actually a hitman?
dunderhosen: Pikman World of Assassination?
TheMerricat: A huge part of this is IO Interactive's situation in real life.
Tiber727: Olimar isn't a hitman, he gives the assignments
RockPusher tricks all the Hitman games into a grape-press and 'consolidates' them
Nydestroyer: and they take out over picmen to steal other outfits
PMAvers: And they're expendable.
CAKHost: They all have their own barcodes
CodeIndigo: and at some point a Rabbid dressed like a Hitman comes in
beowuuf: firts you pick your pikman to be a hitman, then you pick your man to hit as a pikan hitman, then you engage in the mission. As a pikman. And a hitman.
eshplode: I'm just imagining Agent 47 in disguise and a group of Pikmin are following him around
betweenmyself: If you aren’t playing Super Mario Bros 2 on the Game Boy Advance Card Reader can you even be considered a *true* gamer? pennyWhat
PMAvers: Fifty hitmen pikmen just shoving a radio into the tub to electrocute a guy as a team
Bruceski: no refunds
mercano82: You just need to get 15 pikmen to carry the poison over to the soup pot.
ANeMzero: My favorite thing is the "accident" can be "someone used a gun or explosives to cause this thing to fall down on them"
Tiber727: I'll take care of this guy some time within the next 60 years.
Boon_33: you pay extra for the uncertainty
margieargie: Hitsm'n
Nydestroyer: all pikmen dress up in a suit
Nydestroyer: so they can steal peoples outifts
AveryCorvus: It had to be released separately instead of one game because Epic wanted to pay for exclusive time
SquareDotCube: One of them that's great is just helping another amateur assassin by painting crosshairs on their sniper scope :D
NewtyNewts: What a Wonderful World (of Assassination)
dunderhosen: i dunno Willy Wonka does just about "accidentally" kill a bunch of kids
CaptainSpam: Come with me, and you'll be in a world of pure assassination...
Spades_Slicc: Sweet Mario and Hella Luigi
NewtyNewts: The toy lego sets, not just a construction set
accountmadeforants: The Mario with the spooky LCD eyes
Tiber727: @dunderhosen Look, Wonka isn't responsible for anything. He just brings kids who don't listen to a place where bad things happen if you don't listen.
Nydestroyer: where is my brother!
CAKHost: Korosensei will totally sing assassination songs. XD
CAKHost: A Chubby Yoshi?!
CAKHost: Wait, maybe I am just thinking the dark blue Yoshi is supposed to be chubby... And I don't know why.
TheMerricat: Beej like salt chat. :P
Juliamon: I always thought yellow Yoshi was meant to be chubby bc it had the stomp ability
CAKHost: My brain went "Huh, why would an atari be on a site for LEGO? WAIT" XD
They_Are_Alyx: Trans icon Birdo! TransgenderPride
Nydestroyer: what we all want, a birdo gun
CAKHost: TransgenderPride !
Robot_Bones: aiu ayyyu
Juliamon: LUL
GapFiller: aeiou aeiou John Madden
Nydestroyer: ea used madden
accountmadeforants: "AIEOU" "UUUUUUUUUU…" "John Madden!" "Football!"
CAKHost: @Juliamon Oh I remember that! It makes sense.
Nydestroyer: Wow, millions of dollars lost
betweenmyself: Whoopsie doodles riffYeti
CAKHost: :c
virre_: Oh wow thats bad
Nydestroyer: This is one of those microtransaction games right?
Nydestroyer: with packs?
eshplode: Ouch. I feel real bad for the players
accountmadeforants: So they only have some backups? And this only happened to online accounts? HOW?!
lordgrond: someone wasn't validating the backups
TheMerricat: And this is why I don't play games that don't have at least LOCAL save files.
eshplode: Gotta love games with unnecessary online functionality and seemingly no offline saves
Nydestroyer: I mean they gotta protect the microtransaction
NewtyNewts: I thought it was 3 copies, in 2 different mediums, 1 offsite?
JessKay: I thought the 2 was "at least 2 different types of media"?
lordgrond: that happened to me with the original legend of zelda. got to the final dungeon, saved it, booted it up the next day and the save was gone. it was a long long time before I went back to play that game again
virre_: Someone just not restarted all the backups
virre_: *backup servers
TheMerricat: This is why steam _asks_ if the cloud saves are different from the local saves.
CodeIndigo: I lost my clear data for Wild Arms Alter Code F before I could back it up. Haven't been able to bring myself to play it again
accountmadeforants: Oh yeah, I can imagine different ways they could fuck this up, but this is presumably many millions of dollars worth of "game as a service".
electric_claire: Zombie Deadspin
KeytarCat: @CodeIndigo I accidentally loaded a save state instead of a save file in Crisis Core and still haven't finished it :(
They_Are_Alyx: lrrEFF Zombie Deadspin
virre_: It kind of points to the problem with the one provider restricted license deals, because you can make another American Football game but without NFL players would you play it
margieargie: Or "if I can't play adventure mode I'm not playing Dwarf Fortress" (not literally my current mood but it's a little annoying :p )
GapFiller: Wrexham
beowuuf: darn near killed'em
GapFiller: nalvThink on reflection Wrexham sounds like the name of an OG id soft fps
accountmadeforants: "Wrexham." -"Shepardham."
CAKHost: Uhh
CAKHost: Is that stutter in it?
NightValien28: seems like it
mercano82: Are they both in the same uniforms?
beowuuf: lol
NewtyNewts: Huh.
GapFiller: nalvLUL
virre_: mercano82 Warm up clothes, you don't see the shirt
GapFiller: really hoping Wrexham have a good FA Cup run now so we get this irl
Metric_Furlong: for people not from the UK: Liverpool are one of the most successful football teams in the country. Wrexham.... are not
Rob_Racoon: I've started watching the show recently and it's pretty good, IMO.
Pinwiz11: While not a fan of LFC, I do look forward (hopefully) to visiting Liverpool for Eurovision
GapFiller: Wrexham are non league
beowuuf: they were one below the league where it's easy to get out of it and get money to keep going, iirc
Outis_190: soccer Globetrotters, maybe?
NewtyNewts: Go jump off a sea cliff, perhaps?
TheOtherTrevor: Ted Lasso had a one-liner mentioning Ryan and Rob buying Wrexham
TheMerricat: My brother got our family hooked on Ted Lasso over the holidays... now he's got a hook in us to make sure we keep visiting his new home :D
GapFiller: for those unaware the pyramid goes Premier League (where Liverpool play) > the 3 tiers of the English Football League > National League aka non league (where Wrexham play)
NightValien28: U N O N I Z E
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GrassVortex: yay, more unions PrideParty
GapFiller: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN
mercano82: I looked it up, Wrexham A.F.C. is in the National Leauge, which is 5th tier.
LeonisCo: It's been a low bar
TheDailyMapleSyrup: So congratz microsoft for doing the bear MINIMUM!
GrassVortex: whatever their reason, this is a good thing as it helps normalize it
Tiber727: Every company says they will not interfere...but did you know that unions are bad for you?
AveryCorvus: Fighting unions only increases union cameraderie and foments more unions. Being nice is both nice and a good business decision
Outis_190: its always morally correct to take advantage of a corporation in a tight spot
GrassVortex: QA is at the bottom of the "status hierarchy"
PMAvers: The big scapegoat for when things go wrong, too.
GrassVortex: but QA is SUPER important
rubikdarkwill: Stuff getting dumped on QA isn't just a problem in the video games industry...
TheMerricat: How do you eat an Elephant chat? one bite at a time.
TemporallyAwry: @GrassVortex Like most structures, if you ignore the foundations - you're in for a bad time.
NightValien28: TheMerricat with a fork
Outis_190: @themerricat sous vide
GrassVortex: @TemporallyAwry yuuup
virre_: I assume Microsoft have sub-companies in other countries, some of where you can't deny unions and a big procentage is members of unions.
Silver_Slip: people that stop a game from releasing early because of the buggy messes? i cant imagine why corperate would look down on them
TheMerricat: @Outis_190 That'd be a huuuge pot. :D
dunderhosen: @Silver_Slip don't be silly, QA is never actually able to stop a game releasing
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PMAvers: The QA often wasn't the problem, it's management isn't giving the devs the funding and time to fix things
Silver_Slip: @dunderhosen LUL
Tiber727: It's okay, they'll fix it in post...
They_Are_Alyx: The QA team *knew* there were problems, but management elected to ignore them
Tiber727: @They_Are_Alyx I doubt they ignored them, they just decided what was more important, and they chose poorly.
TheMerricat: That was the Turbine game
Silver_Slip: the clash royale-like
ghost_waz: Wasn't magic legends their mmo?
beowuuf: i just took 2d6 points of psychic damage
goldreaver: sorry could you repeat that i fell asleep
TheMerricat: Between this and the OGL mess, I feel like there has to have been a huge coup in the leadership of Hasbro recently.
ghost_waz: I remember the booth at Pax East
They_Are_Alyx: Legends was more of an ARPG like Diablo
goldreaver: talk about PR nonsense
goldreaver: @They_Are_Alyx I liked the idea, but yeah it was a longshot
virre_: Legends started as an MMO but become an ARPG as I understand it
Tiber727: Defense Grid
PMAvers: Hidden Path co-developed Counterstrike GO with Valve.
GrassVortex: ohh..
Outis_190: ???
Silver_Slip: dont forget spellslinhers
NewtyNewts: Hmmm
virre_: Oh they forgot to tell them?
goldreaver: awkward
Outis_190: NotLikeThis NotLikeThis NotLikeThis
dunderhosen: huuuuh....
Outis_190: denial?
rubikdarkwill: Oh hey, are we having a Warcraft situation again?
Outis_190: or 2 different people in the studio
dunderhosen: no we cancelled Hitman, not Hitman!
PMAvers: In short: Never do any sort of partnership with Hasbro ever. They're the worst.
Bruceski: This wouldn't be the first time people find out this way.
SquareDotCube: This sounds like someone from Hasbro brought into WOTC making statements.
DeM0nFiRe: Honestly with how much Wizards is losing lately, it wouldn't surprise me if they also did this too
virre_: Maybe WOTC missed a contract point
AveryCorvus: It wouldn't be the first time a company learned they'd lost their work in a news article
bolas_dnd: I honestly think Jason might just have a bad source? We'll all hear from wotc probably next week.
accountmadeforants: So, uh, what about Baldur's Gate 3?
Outis_190: not "officially" then?
bolas_dnd: @accountmadeforants releases in August this year
accountmadeforants: Alright, that's basically the only one I care about/have hopes for.
PMAvers: That other studio, OtherSide... is Warren Spector's studio.
TheMerricat: @bolas_dnd I doubt it, beyond Jason's credentials, there's the whole leak about WotC pulling OGL1.0a yesterday that makes it sound as if they are cleaning house in Hasbro....
DeM0nFiRe: The OGL thing is massively fucked up
AveryCorvus: Big brain play: maybe they're announcing they're still hiring for it so that when WotC tells them they can claim greater losses and get more compensation via their contract?
accountmadeforants: (Doesn't make it any less shitty from Hasbro/WotC, though.)
atlr: what happened to the old-fashioned "no comment"
GapFiller: atlr too simple
Mischievous_Catgeist: hiya everyone <3
laundreydhull: I think Wizards could just call it. Their attempts in both magic legends & baldur's gate cut themselves short, probably...
laundreydhull: is it their fault? hard to say...
PMAvers: Due to a misplaced comma, Magic has been canceled.
NewtyNewts: Welcome to the ChillPoint Game Wrap-Up
Bruceski: Magic gets cancelled because of confusion about the stack order.
Invitare: And here we are
Mischievous_Catgeist: karby
Rob_Racoon: causeiCarby
NewtyNewts: Truck.
accountmadeforants: It's spectacular
TheMerricat: "Boy!" - GoW.
Invitare: that sort of thing, for my game of the year, is the line: "Noah, my long shadow"
KeytarCat: Super Metroid Rando has a Kirby-mouthful mode ship sprite
laundreydhull: magic speculated cancelled to compensate for overt paper product?
Brozard: everaqSip
Tiber727: And here all I can think is, "Kirby got isekai'd?"
NewtyNewts: @Tiber727 ssshhhh
Simonark: Game of the Year, Chess
NewtyNewts: smh not even chess boxing
Silver_Slip: more a fan of fps chess
TheMerricat: I feel like Lost in Random was Video Games meet Lewis Caroll.
Simonark: I voted for bridge, can't win them all
Invitare: average Kirby game ending
Spades_Slicc: Normal kirby game
CaptainSpam: Yep, that there's a Kirby game, all right.
Bruceski: A lot of Kirby games turn into eldritch horror by the end.
Outis_190: yup, thats just Kirby
bolas_dnd: Kirby is a cute game until it _Very Much Isnt_
Angreed66: Kirby is an eldritch abombination
CaptainSpam: Dedede is a strangely complex character.
NightValien28: kirby doom guy
Invitare: this is the Kirby franchise director's art gallery: https://kumayou.halfmoon.jp/gallery/
Invitare: explains it all
bolas_dnd: I'm waiting for Yoshi's Kraft-ed World.
TemporallyAwry: !findquote smooth
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dunderhosen: didn't Beej play Other M last year...?
Invitare: Metroid Dread was great. Still no news on Prime 4 :(
Invitare: @dunderhosen Other M is a collective hallucination, it's not real therefore Beej did not play it
SquareDotCube: the shinesparking secrets in Fusion was bonkers
KeytarCat: It's so smooth! Even the wacky shine spark puzzles are smooth and make sense once you see them!
GreatWahooney: tunic!
GreatWahooney: I loved that one
NewtyNewts: What about the Stanley Parable ones, which are about you NOT playing it?
Cptasparagus: tunic GOTY
beowuuf: 2nic 2furious
GrassVortex: oh yeah, Tunic really rewards exploration
NewtyNewts: Tunic is so good
NewtyNewts: Wish I could go back and play it for the first time again
GreatWahooney: Tunic's my highlight of the year alongside Lil Gator Game
beowuuf: it's the dark souls of...
NewtyNewts: @beowuuf It's the Zelda of...
They_Are_Alyx: Tunic is like if Zelda and Dark Souls had a baby
accountmadeforants: Tunic is good, but it fell a bit flat for me. It relied a bit too much on the "haha, we've intentionally hidden something behind our isometric geometry" bit to the point where it got tedious, and the combat wasn't that great. That said, I still turbo-completed it.
TheMerricat: Just wait till they find out what you have to do to get the last couple of pages. :D
nickthecatbear: self-indulgent?
NewtyNewts: Wait, peanut butter AND chocolate?!
accountmadeforants: @They_Are_Alyx Ehhhhhhhhh
accountmadeforants: It's no Zelda, and it's definitely no Dark Souls
mowdownjoe: Tunic is very good at playing with your perceptions and having mechanics actually just available from the start and you don't know that at first.
mercano82: I read the manual in the car on the way home.
aiamethyst: I remember the "back of the box" clue from one of the metal gear games
TheMerricat: @mercano82 I didn't just read the manual on the way home, one of the games I took the manual with me to camp and obsessed over every page till I could actually play it :D
NewtyNewts: Oh, absolutely akin to Fez. I wish there were more games like that.
mowdownjoe: Yep. The dev is very openly inspired by Fez.
Robot_Bones: Its nice that you put that in, I'mma google that answere
PMAvers: Yeah, I'm pretty sure you don't actually have to do anything with the language to get to 100%?
GapFiller: thats all anyone needs to know really
NightValien28: every waterfall should have something behind it
EvilBadman: @PMAvers Nope, in fact you don't really gain anything outside of learning a language
TheMerricat: @PMAvers You are correct you can finish the game 100% without knowing the trick behind the language. But.. it really helps.
Outis_190: dargon?
kusinohki: I think one of the waterfalls only has a secret passge that leads to a different waterfall...
TemporallyAwry: Every waterfall has something behind it, it's just that usually it's either disappointment, or a wall - sometimes both! Kappa
accountmadeforants: Honestly, if anyone's looking for a game where you solve mysteries on your own, through your own ability to piece things together, I cannot recommend Outer Wilds more.
Izandai: It is to my deep shame that I still haven't played this, given how much I loved The Liar Princess and the Blind Prince.
Gizmoloid: Awww!
MrVirite: what was this called?
NewtyNewts: I can't see it on Steam... that's unfortunate
Bruceski: The worst part of Outer Wilds is you can only play it blind once. I've known people it didn't click for, but if you're the sort it hooks "properly" it's amazing
TheMerricat: According to the listings for it Cruel King is only avaliable on Switch and Playstation
NewtyNewts: @MrVirite 'The Cruel King and the Great Hero'
Mazrae: good evening everyone
mowdownjoe: Pikmin 3 was great on the WiiU back in the day. Haven't played the Switch version.
accountmadeforants: @Bruceski Yeah, it's easily my favourite game of all time. And that's something I've never been able to say before.
virre_: Oh I miss Lost Vikings, that was a nice game
dunderhosen: @Bruceski and somewhat amazingly, the DLC is also a worthy addition to the game
Bezekric: Wish I hadn't bounced so hard off the gameplay of Outer Wilds since it really otherwise is very much my jam
Sethalidos: looks like this is Switch only
aiamethyst: played pikmin 3 with my son, it was great
Sethalidos: oh it's also on PS4
Outis_190: oop yeah
TheMerricat: I can't rememer is Outer Wilds the Fallout clone or the one where they wander a small solar system?
a_Weakling: agreed
electric_claire: There isn't really a time limit, Paul
underhill33: same, paul
ghost_waz: Same,Paul
mowdownjoe: Fair. Pikmin 1 was rough with that. 3 could be at times.
Serpens77: @TheMerricat small solar system. Outer Worlds is the Fallout-like one
TheMerricat: NVM context says it's the solar systemm
TheMerricat: @TheMerricat Thanks :)
Serpens77: HARD SAME with Outer Wilds for me, Paul
a_Weakling: either it is stressful because time runs out or i get fomo if there are goals that can be missed if you dont do things in time
Bezekric: Same, Paul, same.
Juliamon: Even if there isn't *actually* a time limit, it triggers that same feeling
dunderhosen: total understand the time limit thing, it's a real shame that is a hard bounce for some people though =(
AveryCorvus: "Story"
Outis_190: high fidelity dirt physics, Paul
RealGamerCow: I started playing 100 Days, the winery simulator, and the story is VERY weak
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Robot_Bones: You need to have the right level of Zen cleaning these objects
AveryCorvus: @realgamercow Think they're watering it down?
Sethalidos: some of the levels are pretty involved Paul
TheDailyMapleSyrup: power wash simulator has lore that most miss
Sethalidos: @AveryCorvus GET. OUT.
SquareDotCube: why not pressure wash... in space?
Robot_Bones: That takes meticulous coding
Outis_190: foodfight simulator
TheMerricat: Procedural Dirt Generation chat.
Juliamon: The cursed house was fun lorewise
RandomTrivia: @SquareDotCube That's called vacuuming lrrBEEJ
ThorSokar: They could give you a flame thrower, with low oxygen to put ash on everything
dunderhosen: sounds like Shadow Warrior Viscera Cleanup Detail
Rob_Racoon: Mario Sunshine?
Sethalidos: @Juliamon later in the game gets batshit lorewise
Izandai: I think they were actually introduced in a game where they were playable characters.
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Izandai: And yeah, it recently got a localized release.
Izandai: I've owned this game for years and I still haven't gotten around to beating it.
virre_: Aha
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bolas_dnd: noice
Rob_Racoon: causeiThirst causeiThirst
Izandai: Also Jack Septiceye voices a character, if you're into that sort of thing.
TheMerricat: I wonder if it's possible to down everybody on the map in deathloop...
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SquareDotCube: I believe the world is the same one Dishonored takes place in
EvilBadman: they know it's a loop, but they don't remember the loops
TheMerricat: On top of being nutzo is they have forgotten what's going on because they've looped so often.
CaptainSpam: The people aren't aware that it's Groundhog Day. They're all expecting to remember each loop.
KeytarCat: @SquareDotCube I read about those easter eggs!
Izandai: Technically it is day 1. It's just the *cough*thousandth day 1.
Dalrint: I missed abit what game are they talking about?
Izandai: Deathloop
CaptainSpam: Also, I like how "Groundhog Day" has become the generally accepted term for this sort of loop.
TheMerricat: Watching Wiggins pwn people raiding him by just putting down mines and forcing them to come to him was amusing.
PMAvers: Ah, yes, the coward mode.
Izandai: Yeah, Matt trolled the SHIT out of the raiders.
Dalrint: Coward, or clever?
Izandai: It was great.
accountmadeforants: A Short Hike was free on Epic for a bit, yeah, it's a super nice game to play
Izandai: We've got like three or four cilps of him just sitting in the corner of a room, not moving, and then there's explosions in the distance and the game tells him he killed the inivader.
GreatWahooney: and then if you like A Short Hike, go play Lil Gator Game as well
KeytarCat: @accountmadeforants It was also in one of the big Itchio fundraiser bundles
nickthecatbear: weeelllll, there are revelations. Because indie games have moods,,,
accountmadeforants: KeytarCat Honestly, I own it several times over, so I'm not actually sure which I played first :p
SquareDotCube: That reminds me, I bought the Frog Detective trilogy this winter sale and should get to playing that
SpoonfullOfSugar: no antagonist
TheMerricat: Chat, I have absolutely NO idea why Heather has a reputation for being a Chaos Goblin. Do you?
accountmadeforants: The little racing minigame is also fun, especially when you see the opponent just run up a stair when you flew down there.
NewtyNewts: @TheMerricat No idea
nickthecatbear: Big Same
NewtyNewts: So... a-anthro games?
accountmadeforants: Consider playing Ultrakill! Where you're also not human! (Probably.)
Orannis0: Have they tried Lil Gator Game yet?
NewtyNewts: Hollow Knight, where you are definitely a bug
Izandai: Hollow Knight: Another game I've yet to beat.
Orannis0: It's a lot of fun, only like 8 hours
protojman: not sure if it's exactly the same but I did Firewatch this week
accountmadeforants: Oh, did you play Later Alligator? That's super fun
ghost_waz: Ori is definitely not human
NewtyNewts: Let's have a mouth full of car.
ThorSokar: Can verify
ThorSokar: haha
RockPusher: tqsKnife lunarj1Heart
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Earthenone: they are making fire emblem for the N-gage?
DiscordianTokkan: Ooh, Jumpstart!
laundreydhull: any jumpstart v. jumpstart '22s?
RockPusher: Mozart: Stairmaster
SquareDotCube: Up, Mozart! Up!
GapFiller: so many freemasons
Earthenone: masonic myths and mozart
TheDailyMapleSyrup: Oooh Mozart rules
Wicker_Guide: Amadeus Amadaus?
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Angreed66: Don't draw stairs if your character can't climb them
aiamethyst: it's me
ThorSokar: ^ this person
aiamethyst: she's in charge of the topic this time though, so I'm a little worried
ThorSokar: hahahaha, Cori's gonna take your arm!
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