Mr_Horrible: and they'll also have to tap the sentinel to equip again
GredGredmansson: well, A line
micalovits: I think we are fine no matter what
Dread_Pirate_Westley: 7/5?
Mr_Horrible: oh wait, right, it stays attached LUL
LoneGoat: if it's 6+ it's lethal on its own
MegaDosX: Yeah
Grimnus: Shows off the power of those equips
chrono2x: Wow. All cause they didn't attack that one turn
akromatirel: cheer100 "naw, you char to the face and hope you top deck a burn spell"
MegaDosX: Deathtouch and trample trips people up a lot
BloodnBullets: ah yes, RB playing the long game. Thats how that works.
MadWolf1290: this isn't Tarcov
niconorsk: I am sure I am missing something, but couldn't you have just demon bolted their face?
innerbeard: Who's the opponent's avatar?
MegaDosX: !card demon bolt
LRRbot: Demon Bolt [2R] | Instant | Demon Bolt deals 4 damage to target creature or planeswalker. / Foretell {R}
MegaDosX: That's Wyll
Greyah: Wyll?
BrowneePoints: Wyll
BrowneePoints: he's your Warlock companion in BG3
BlackIsis: Adam, I am disappointed in you
innerbeard: Gotcha, ty
MegaDosX: His name is Wyll, Graham
couchboyj: Groundskeeper Whyllie
SacrificialToast: well there's 1 mana 4 damage to creature as a sorcery :p
BlackIsis: Minsc is bald. And awesome
SacrificialToast: !card flame slash
LRRbot: Flame Slash [R] | Sorcery | Flame Slash deals 4 damage to target creature.
Greyah: Does something with dice, I think. Because I have him in an oops all dice commander deck.
TehAmelie: Wyll he blynd?
micalovits: Rude!
MegaDosX: The paper version of Wyll is a die roller card, the one in Arena is one of the Specialise cards that does a variety of things
BloodnBullets: big brain bluff
MegaDosX: KARDUR
innerbeard: I thought they had actually made a cool looking planeswalker for once :P
public_key_reveal_party: mindgames
MegaDosX: Everything must attack
saucemaster5000: Brilliant
GredGredmansson: Kardur!
GredGredmansson: I drafted 3 of these guys in an LGS Kaldheim draft
v_nome: Beards are looking good, both of you.
Grimnus: They sure taught that effigy a lesson
GredGredmansson: it was fun
IRLFine: Ehrmagerd kerder
MegaDosX: I'd imagine Kardur would be pretty funny in a Thantis EDH deck
MegaDosX: Or Karazikar
Bugberry: all the answers
Mazrae: don't fear the reaper
type_variable: dont you have to attack
MegaDosX: Yeah Kardur doesn't goad everything forever
MegaDosX: He's only on ETB
type_variable: oh
akromatirel: (facepalm) akro matirel..... its Akroma Tirel. after the legendary angel from Legions and the Planeswalker. quote is from the Craig Jones x Oliver Ruel pro tour Honolulu match
LadyLockwood92: Kardur would be a mythic if that were the case.
GredGredmansson: hey is Discord dead right now?
Diabore: !card kardur, doom
LRRbot: Kardur, Doomscourge [2BR] | Legendary Creature — Demon Berserker [4/3] | When Kardur, Doomscourge enters the battlefield, until your next turn, creatures your opponents control attack each combat if able and attack a player other than you if able. / Whenever an attacking creature dies, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
Grimnus: Was chumping Kardur and eating the infernal pet better?
type_variable: whats foretell?
Diabore: no, kardur has another ability
Mazrae: what does foretell do?
Diabore: or 1 spell
DAC169: just to be rude aipSRSLY
MegaDosX: Foretell is you can pay two and exile a card into Foretell, then can cast it later for its Foretell cost
GredGredmansson: @Mazrae @type_variable pay 2 to exile it from your hand; you can cast it later for its foretell cost
IRLFine: @mazrae pay 2, exile it, you can cast on a later turn from exile for cheaper cost
Fr0Dough: doesnt mow my lawn
BrowneePoints: @Mazrae exile it face down for 2, then you can play it on a later turn for its foretell cost
zenican82: Have a good evening
BloodnBullets: it doesnt do my taxes
Grimnus: Thanks for the stream you two
Martin_FcG: Thanks for the entertainment :) It was good to see both of you jamming mtg.
AveryCorvus: Thanks for the stream
lochnessseammonster: thanks for the stream :)
Sleep_Tight: :) until next time!
GapFiller: thanks for streaming lrrGRAHAM lrrADAM lrrSHINE
MegaDosX: Thanks for stream!
meaninglessMeg: Thanks for the stream! lrrSHINE
IRLFine: Thanks again for the game
Diabore: have fun with dom remastered tomorrow, i built a dumb storm deck when i drafted it, maxed out at 11 storm
type_variable: seabatClap
LadyLockwood92: Thanks for the stream, guys~ It's been fun.
IRLFine: Long time YouTube viewer of yours
MegaDosX: @IRLFine Were you the opponent just now?
sugarsh0t: byeee
akromatirel: i miss irl draft
Wolfstrike_NL: We are "a person" and "another person"
IRLFine: @megadosx earlier in the stream
MegaDosX: @IRLFine Ah, neat!
GapFiller: WOOD HYPE
CAKHost: Thanks for the stream!
tehfewl: i went in not knowing much about the set and have had a blast doing drafts of it
adambomb625: Guillotine 2?
MegaDosX: You wood tune in for that, Graham?
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Diabore: "i wood" i see what you did there
munocard: Is there a question about the wood?
OhaiMireiya: *waggles eyebrows*
micalovits: And marshmallow fluff it seems like
Phailhammer: cya :)
spawnofhastur: It's log! It's log! It's round, it's heavy, it's wood.
MegaDosX: Later everyone, take care
BrowneePoints: aw man Legend of Vox Machina S2 isn't until tomorrow
ritchards: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Tinker Tailor Solder Fry (Ian and Alex work with wood!) at Thu 05:00 PM PST (1m from now).
princess_intell: huzzah it's ttsf
BrowneePoints: also chat, just a random aside if you've ever wanted to see if CR is for you but don't want to go through 600 hours of live play, check out the Legend of Vox Machina show
drewm1022: Huh. I have episodes 1 and 2 available, Brownee.
drewm1022: And I believe CR is streaming a watchalong of them tonight.
BrowneePoints: oh huh, thought it was a jan 20 release
Sorator13: It's season 2 that starts soon, I think
BrowneePoints: yea I thought s2 was tomorrow lol
RandomTrivia: Hi friends! lrrHEART
TemporallyAwry: penaddTobyhi good timezone all
drewm1022: Yeah pretty sure CR is doing a watchalong in 2 hours.
RandomTrivia: Looking forward to seeing some exotic woods being worked on stream... wait...
RandomTrivia: lrrBEEJ
DeM0nFiRe: According to the CR site the watch party is next tuesday
DeM0nFiRe: "Our first Watch Party for Episodes 1-3 with Cast and Special Guests on January 24th"
DeM0nFiRe: Speaking of watch parties, the 15th anniversary of The Guild just happened and they did a watch party of the whole series. I had never seen it before, that was a good first way to see it
Nigouki: mmmm, wood
drewm1022: Oh. Hm. K I could very easily be wrong.
LostThePirate: I'm here for all the wood puns and innuendos...
TemporallyAwry: As a sanity check, they absolutely said during last week's episode that they'd be doing it this week.
TimIAm: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Tinker Tailor Solder Fry (Ian and Alex work with wood!) at Thu 05:00 PM PST (3m ago).
TemporallyAwry: Just for anyone feeling like they were "sure" - right there with you LuvCool
RandomTrivia: lrrSIG !
TemporallyAwry: lrrSIG
DeM0nFiRe: lrrSIG
drewm1022: Haha, thank you for that.
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Fruan: This music slaps so hard
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RandomTrivia: You can just imagine the incredibly smooth ride in the Crown Vic from this music alone
Fruan: But this stream should be starting with A Lineage of Jets instead.
TehAmelie: a level, eh? are we gonna make vidoegames?
KeytarCat: @Fruan there's time yet!
TehAmelie: *boos self*
princess_intell: pour one out for saabine folks
drewm1022: rip saabine.
Fruan: o7
RandomTrivia: benginO7
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Meark: Woodworking for my sub anniversary, you shouldn't have! :D
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Kaorti: Loving the workbench!
CobaltShuriken: are fans of this program called Tinker Tailor Solder Friars?
princess_intell: tureens?
ButButTheJesus: WOOD!
SymphonicLolita: trees on the street
Kaorti: with a proper vise!
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TehAmelie: hmm who is it holding the tools in the intro? i'm gonna bet Ian
TehAmelie: also hi
SnackPak_: neat
DrakoniteStreams: Ooo, TTSF was exactly as late starting as I was getting out of a meeting
jessieimproved: lookin good lrrIAN & lrrALEX
OhaiMireiya: hurro frens =3
Lord_Hosk: When did the mikes come in?
SymphonicLolita: lapel mics are soooo last year
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Fruan: I'm looking for a Thicc Top
CobaltShuriken: are we perhaps going to have an as seen on tv segment? these mics are giving me QVC channel vibes
LoadingReadyRun: we are testing some different mics tonight. let me know what you think
DrakoniteStreams: Alex is quiet or just me?
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RandomTrivia: @LoadingReadyRun They're really clean so far
pn55: @LoadingReadyRun Sound good so far!
SymphonicLolita: they're handy when one does not actually have a lapel
TemporallyAwry: Alex sounds fine on my setup.
TheInnsanity: mics look visually fine! and audio seems good to boot!
Alas_Babylon: Not hearing shirts rustle is already a plus
Alas_Babylon: Misophonia hype
DrakoniteStreams: audio quality good so far
SnackPak_: ooo
RandomTrivia: Oooooooh
RandomTrivia: F A N C Y
Lord_Hosk: The sound is clean, but sounds hollow lacking the rich base notes,
BrowneePoints: Audio quality is dece but yea the eq is a bit hollow
Meark: THERE IS?
pn55: Looks really cool!
SymphonicLolita: ooo
CaptinOfBeez: this is really impressive!
DrakoniteStreams: dog holes are where you put cat paws
roseofloki: this looks a lot like a miniature version of the workbench my dad made for himself
Arclight_Dynamo: My dad built a woodworking bench years ago. The vice had dog hole in it for this exact reason.
CaptinOfBeez: bench dogs are the best! you gotta get some of the foot clamping ones!
roseofloki: pretty much all the same features
SymphonicLolita: nice
pn55: lrrWOW
ButButTheJesus: neat!
Lord_Hosk: Thats very impressive
Rasputyne: Wow, this little bench is super impressive!
CobaltShuriken: exsqueeze?!
generalpurpose: This is so fucking cool
RandomTrivia: This bench is awesome
Lord_Hosk: You can also clamp... Offset it doesnt have to clamp even
CaptinOfBeez: those types of face vice date wayyyyy back to old cabinet maker benches
spawnofhastur: Do you have the holdfasts for it?
RandomTrivia: sergeHolyMoly
TheInnsanity: work(ing on) bench
atlr: very very nice
pn55: This is awesome Alex!
Driosenth: What threadform are the screws?
spawnofhastur: If anyone here would like to build their own workbench there's an excellent free guide called The Anarchist's Workbench which is free to download online.
SnackPak_: way cool
NDCazzy: half the fun of wood working is making the places and tools to do the work!
pn55: HypeLUL
Driosenth: 1015 1045 or something more skookum like 4140?
Kaorti: @spawnofhastur this is very good advice
RandomTrivia: Hahahahahaha
SymphonicLolita: stronk
DrakoniteStreams gives Alex a gold star for show and tell, and an A+ for shop class
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LadyLockwood92: Oh hey, a button
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SnackPak_: as did I, Paul
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Octagone: hi
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dodrito: Hi
adambomb625: Build a full scale Guillotine
Caineghest: Thanks for having us it’s great to be here
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Octagone: what is going on?
SymphonicLolita: hi howyoudoin greattoseeyou
spawnofhastur: How many paul sellers videos were involved Alex?
xantos69: Cheer50 Bits!
spawnofhastur: Paul Sellers is an excellent example of unintentional ASMR.
QuixoticScrivener: New mics?
Arclight_Dynamo: Wait. Monty Python? Is there *another* Peter Sellers?
spawnofhastur: @TheMerricat thank you very much.
BrowneePoints: @QuixoticScrivener they are testing new mics yea
spawnofhastur: DOVETAILS YO
SymphonicLolita: yeehaw!
SnackPak_: FBtouchdown
Master_Gunner: dang
Kaorti: HOLY CRAP
RandomTrivia: That can only go well
OhaiMireiya: *gasp*
Xafty: Let"s Try!
Kaorti: I applaud the ambition
LostThePirate: We sure will try!
GrassVortex: well, only one way to learn :D
RandomTrivia: This is, after all, the Let's Try program!
bainard656: This is the quintessential TTSF project
QuixoticScrivener: @browneepoints T. Hanks!
princess_intell: so ian and alex each get three packs of DMU...
spawnofhastur: You did pretty well with your first ever mortise and tenon on the guillotine project so I have faith.
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generalpurpose: WOOD
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DrakoniteStreams: @bainard656 at least if he adds a dreamcast or sega logo :D
Micsig: can see it now in bottom left
spawnofhastur: Townsends has a neat video where their blacksmith makes a compass/pair of dividers.
korvys: Does it need to be a little smaller, so it doesn't just like... wedge itself into the pot?
spawnofhastur: @korvys better to make it too big than too small.
korvys: true
spawnofhastur: You can always cut or sand more wood off.
RandomTrivia: sergePun
pn55: jlrrFacepalm
SymphonicLolita: #coping
ButButTheJesus: max copium
princess_intell: it's their coping mechanism?
korvys: Held vertically, so the saw is moving towards and away from your body?
spawnofhastur: There are a bunch of neat builds online for turning saws, which might be a fun project.
epsilon_vee: to translate for non-prairie people, 30-level means high school senior year academic courses
RandomTrivia: That wall is pretty knife lrrBEEJ
RandomTrivia: IAN HORNER
Chesul: one of the biggest differences is that a jewelers saw doesn't have blade rotation built in, while coping saws (at least the ones I've used) do.
spawnofhastur: iirc knife wall is specifically a paul sellersism
TemporallyAwry: !card knife wall
LRRbot: Can't find any card by that name
Master_Gunner: Here's the catalog to the Technical Supply Company, circa 1900. You can see kits like Alex has around page 77. https://archive.org/details/completecatalogp00tech/page/76/mode/1up
Phailhammer: Anyway, here's Knifewall... lrrBEEJ
Spades_Slicc: In magic I'm pretty sure it's called blade barrier
Kaorti: prep makes for a clean cut
steelfox13: Knife Wall 2/6 for 3 and a red
Mazrae: what is Alex making today
Nenluen: theres wall of swords.. its like a bunch of kives
korvys: Uh, I don't know if I'd put my left hand there, but ok
CaptinOfBeez: gotta break them fibers
generalpurpose: They do actually make circle guides for routers
korvys: That's called a lathe, ian
CaptinOfBeez: yea they have router jigs that do that
Izandai: demipyroLul
steelfox13: Inside everyone there are two routers
Micsig: the lathe?
Arclight_Dynamo: Just lathe the board.
RandomTrivia: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
spawnofhastur: Pole lathes are also neat.
DrakoniteStreams: I think you just invented an ambulance ride
RandomTrivia: "What if, instead of moving the saw, I move the piece of wood past the saw really fast!"
Nigouki: A good draughting set is honestly invaluable if you like to make stuff by hand. I still have my grandmother's old Soviet set and more recently I was able to find a slightly more recent Kern set in Value Village for an unreasonably cheap price
niccus: is it teppanyaki time already
fringis: sounds like a powered rotary table
Auntie_de_lluviel: Hi, all! What is the intended voal of Alex's woodworking?
SymphonicLolita: choppy choppy
CaptinOfBeez: pull saws are awesome
Chesul: I love those saws, they're so great.
quixy23: Are we beheading something today on Tinker Tailor Soldier Fry?!
epsilon_vee: oh sweet, it's the whatchamacallit lathe from that famous book 'don't create the whatchamacallit lathe'
Auntie_de_lluviel: *goal
quixy23: Why else would Japanese items be used here?
Izandai: Cutting on the pull is generally be better for safety, right?
princess_intell: this just in: lrr crew are nerds
TemporallyAwry: @quixy23 Authenticity? We are making a japanese cooking tool ;p
CaptinOfBeez: no the cross cut blades have offset teeth
generalpurpose: The kerf is just the width of the blade, right?
bainard656: I hope they used the tarp budget
spawnofhastur: @generalpurpose not quite.
DrakoniteStreams: pull saws are more accurate than a push saw, but push has more power for harder cuts
CaptinOfBeez: width of the cutting teeth
GrassVortex: ahhh, satisfying sawing sounds extraJam
SymphonicLolita: lumberjack asmr
Kaorti: @generalpurpose width of the blade, plus the set of the teeth
spawnofhastur: The teeth have a slight offset so that the blade doesn't bind in the cut.
tehfewl: wood cutting asmr Kreygasm
definenull: mmm toasty
fringis: @generalpurpose more right then it wrong honestly
princess_intell: mic 5 mic 5
Chesul: that was quite a sound.
SymphonicLolita: lrrFINE
generalpurpose: Ah, thanks for the clarifications! Makes sense.
LostThePirate: Crackly lol
nimrickz: that was the LRR creeper
DrakoniteStreams: something appropriate about testing new mics on TTSF
Micsig: famous last words
Kaorti: the teeth are ground differently for along and across the grain
RandomTrivia: Different strokes for different... grain orientations, I guess
RedPhoenixCasts: how hard is that saw to use?
RandomTrivia: Hmm, needs workshopping
LoadingReadyRun: sorry about that idk what happened there. mic seems to be fine now
Meark: So that’s probably a ryoba if it has a cross cut and rip blades
ArisuGunplaSFW: this is so satisfying
spawnofhastur: Pull saws are usually a bit easier to use than push saws, from what I can tell.
spawnofhastur: Push saws are better for bigger workpieces though
Lysander_salamander: Hello folks!
Lysander_salamander: What's being built?
RandomTrivia: Hey there Lysander_salamander!
Micsig: no c-clamp?
SymphonicLolita: give em the CLAMPS
Auntie_de_lluviel: hihi!
ArisuGunplaSFW: Alex is building a wooden cooking weight
Meark: Japanese saws are a lot easier to use for fine woodworking.
generalpurpose: Isn't that the wordworker's curse, always having too many clamps but never the ones you need?
SymphonicLolita: I...did that more than once working on my desert bus craft
Meark: Definitely a ryoba
spawnofhastur: This is where I wish Alex had some holdfasts.
gnyrinn: Isn’t “early beef” veal?
princess_intell: tell us about the booze ian
cmdrud87: what about a bargaining saw and accepting saw?
Micsig: I remember this math technique
RealGamerCow: just tuning in, what is being made tonight
TemporallyAwry: What if you just vibrated the saw really fast and moved the wood around it? Kappa
Izandai: Currently, a circle.
Earthenone: Content
Micsig: I circle is simply an n sided polygon
RandomTrivia: Hey there RealGamerCow, Alex is making a cooking pot weight
Mischievous_Catgeist: hiya everyone
spawnofhastur: also just before the stream started i was listening to Hardware Store by Weird Al which I feel is appropriate.
SymphonicLolita: some manner of japanese cooking implement that I forget teh name of
RealGamerCow: thank you Randomtrivia
generalpurpose: The strength difference between Alex's mini bench and the folding table is a little hilarious
azureHaights: BAH GAWD Horner has the Cross Clamp locked in!
RandomTrivia: You really need a stable surface for this kind of horsing around lrrBEEJ
shurtal: what are we woodworking over tonight?
NotCainNorAbel: sergePun ysbrydPunjail
Symphoneers: We're making an Otoshibuta, a wooden drop lid used to help keep simmering foods submerged.
onarampage: I feel like Alex is missing an opportunity to wear some kind of lumberjack shirt here.
TemporallyAwry: Cutting Corners at the Circle Factory tonight ;p
spawnofhastur: You could put together a knock-down workbench for TTSF
SymphonicLolita: @Symphoneers ah yes, thank you other symph
Meark: Alright time to crowdfund an English joiners bench
fastlane250: Yeah that looks like an old-school banquet table that's heavy as bus. Modern plastic ones aren't nearly that bad.
ArisuGunplaSFW: Cheer100 Very satisfying 10/10
Nigouki: do you have some of those sandbag weights they put on tripods? can throw some of them on the table legs
DrakoniteStreams: A japanese pull saw has been on my wish list for ages. I just need to find a good one.
Mazrae: travel size
RandomTrivia: Then a hexadecagon...
Izandai: dohexagon
spawnofhastur: we archimedes now
Micsig: simply approach infinity
TheMerricat: @spawnofhastur I mean what Alex has there already is 70% of the way to being a portable workbench, they just need to come up with a base for it that doesn't require being on the floor...
Izandai: Hexadecagon would be 60 sides, I think?
QuixoticScrivener: Seems like a lot of unnecessary cuts.
SymphonicLolita: increase triangles for stability
spawnofhastur: this is how archimedes discovered pi!
Driosenth: I use probably that exact model folding table for a computer desk and it is at least 30 years old. Those things are solid laminate and don't bend or warp anywhere near as much as the blow-molded ones.
RandomTrivia: Is this Zeno's woodshop?
princess_intell: just make an infinite nonagon :p
azureHaights: Tonight on TTSF, Ian and Alex reinvent calculus
spawnofhastur: Nonagon Infinity does open the door @princess_intell
miu316: “That coping saw isn’t the most stable” that’s a sentence
Electrodyne: a 16-sider? We support Autobots here, not the evil dec-hexagons
princess_intell: then the robots come and we can say "robot, stop"
TheMerricat: I don't know how well this would work for a studio use but this ( https://www.familyhandyman.com/project/saturday-morning-workshop-folding-mobile-workbench/ ) combined with Alex's existing kit looks like it would be fairly useful.
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Drasvin: Wood!
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RandomTrivia: jlrrPunch ?
Micsig: we punching chunks now?
Izandai: So... Chunks, huh?
ritchards: What is Alex making?
LoadingReadyRun: right now, Alex is making a circle
spawnofhastur: Did any of messr's lrr ever do fire by friction stuff?
SymphonicLolita: I should look into buying/making a workbench like this. I do all my wood crafting on the floor in my shed currently
RandomTrivia: @ritchards A Japanese cooking weight, the actual name of which I forget but is somewhere further up in Chat
RandomTrivia: Otoshibuta apparently
spawnofhastur: @SymphonicLolita I mentioned it earlier, but the book The Anarchist's Workbench is freely available and explains how to build a good workbench!
TheWriterAleph: assume a spherical tree in a vacuum
ritchards: neat! thanks chat!
spawnofhastur: It's also got a real neat discussion about how woodworking is a good example of anarchist praxis.
SymphonicLolita: @spawnofhastur yes I looked it up for later, thanks for menntioning it!
Kaorti: end grain *is* thirsty
SymphonicLolita: I need some new clamps too...froggy chair took a victim this summer
Micsig: Yup, it's wood
Chesul: yeah, you super don't want end grain on the food.
Sethalidos: iAN!
RandomTrivia: !quote 8430
LRRbot: Quote #8430: ""Knowing trivia is great." "Knowing useful things is probably better."" —Beej and Paul [2023-01-16]
Drasvin: Are you trying out new mics? I just noticed both Alex and Ian have headset mics.
LoadingReadyRun: @Drasvin we are!
Spades_Slicc: Is asbestos a mineral?\
RandomTrivia: "Draw the rest of the BUSsing circle" lrrBEEJ
NanoDelta: hey all, what's building?
CaptinOfBeez: fuck red oak
Favre_the_Undead: @Spades_Slicc yep
Symphoneers: @NanoDelta An Otoshibuta, a wooden drop lid used to help keep simmering foods submerged.
NanoDelta: oh sick
spawnofhastur: Dear Alex and Ian, have you ever cooked using binchotan?
azureHaights: je ne sais wood
Twilight_Spark: Whisper butt stuff over it?
NanoDelta: and that's a nice tabletop bench. has there been any commentary on it yet? Likes, dislikes, made or purchased, etc?
princess_intell: "i spent so much time and money on this that it HAS TO WORK"
SymphonicLolita: that's how they make lacroix
BrowneePoints: Humamiopathic
RandomTrivia: And the tree has to be cut down in the 2-week window where all the Cherry blossom is falling
Martin_FcG: That saw sounds great.
A_Dub888: Umamiopathic
Sorator13: Homeopathic Umami sounds like a very interesting band name
RandomTrivia: @Sorator13 All their songs have a bittersweet feel lrrBEEJ
brainbosh: Homeopathy was real more people would be ok with eating bugs.
spawnofhastur: It makes a metallic sound when you hit it!
Astrovore: Bincho-tan is my new waifu
Master_Gunner: @NanoDelta Alex did a show and tell at the top of the show - he made it from scratch.
NanoDelta: @master_gunner sweet, thanks!
princess_intell: so it's simple
princess_intell: and it's clean
jessieimproved: I miss yakitori shops
TemporallyAwry: @princess_intell jlrrNo
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
TheWriterAleph: to create a hibachi from scratch, you must first create the universe
spawnofhastur: I really want to try yakitori. Yakitori is an excellent example of what I love about a bunch of Japanese stuff where they have a laser focus on something and make it exquisite.
Martin_FcG: Whats that saw called?
spawnofhastur: It's a ryoba.
Izandai: Japanese pull saw.
Auntie_de_lluviel: I miss the (cast iron) hibachi my household had when I was growing up.
princess_intell: hot hibachi is the way that you're making me feel tonight, it's hard to let it go
BrowneePoints: Diatomaceous Earth? LOVE his Paintings
Martin_FcG: Thanks! Ive never seen one before.
Sorator13: well, you don't want to *breathe* it
RandomTrivia: O_o
Sorator13: but otherwise, yes, it's great
Mai_Andra: Diatomite, like from Minecraft? xivMorbol
NanoDelta: thats a ryoba saw, common maker is suizan
spawnofhastur: But yeah yakitori restaurants I love that they're like "alright we're going to cut up a chicken into its individual muscles."
TheInnsanity: I feel like Ian should have a rubik's cube or something
QuixoticScrivener: I missed what we’re talking about, but I’m guessing diatomaceous earth.
RandomTrivia: Tiny hammer!
Izandai: demipyroLul
RandomTrivia: HAHAhahahahaha
Lord_Hosk: First we wet the drys then we dry the wets then the drys dry the pests
RandomTrivia: benginUrgh
Micsig: the sledge
princess_intell: great now simple and clean's stuck in my head
RandomTrivia: The Tinkaton approach
Micsig: mallets generally softer
RandomTrivia: A mallet wants a bit of bounce to it
RandomTrivia: A hammer imposes its will upon everything it touches
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xXAYAYAXx: this is badass
xXAYAYAXx: wood is awesome
RandomTrivia: So is that like a reverse-title-drop?
spawnofhastur: How recently has that chisel been sharpened?
spawnofhastur: lol
Martin_FcG: Whetstone or grinder?
aiamethyst: oh hey, that package arrived
CaptinOfBeez: dont forget the strop
spawnofhastur: I feel like with a sufficiently sharp chisel you could pare here rather than chopping.
Izandai: weeeeeeeeeeb :P
Viscount16: stropping makes such a difference
RandomTrivia: Ian literally just finished a 9-stream build of an enormous GunPla. There is NO shame here for weebness :D
cleric_ofthe_true_god: What are we making?
spawnofhastur: There are a bunch of jigs like that.
RandomTrivia: @cleric_ofthe_true_god An Otoshi buta, a Japanese drop-lid for simmering foods
spawnofhastur: They're really sweet until you want to put a secondary bevel on.
cleric_ofthe_true_god: @cleric_ofthe_true_god Sweet, thanks
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: I got here a little late, what is Alex making? something for cooking?
RandomTrivia: @cleric_ofthe_true_god @I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo ^
spawnofhastur: I wish there was more representation of Ainu culture and people in the media. The biggest thing I can think of is Golden Kamuy.
princess_intell: fun fact, the japanese language is so old we can't figure out what it was before it was japanese
RealGamerCow: Alex is making a Japanese pot lid
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: oh neat. does that go with a clay pot?
Electrodyne: Gallipygian, even
spawnofhastur: Something similar happened in the indigenous Tasmanian tool kit - they were isolated from any other human contact for over 11,000 years.
Lord_Hosk: another thing is that Japanese iron is very bad and hard to get. so tools are prized differently where as in Europe and the middle east Iron was much easier to get so tools were more utilitarian
Tempest2097: And salt water
spawnofhastur: Quick lime and salt water.
CaptinOfBeez: chunky quicklime
Drasvin: Also you use salt water instead of fresh water
Tempest2097: See, whenever they said water they meant salt water and it took us a while to figure that out
Spades_Slicc: Quick lime as opposed to slaked lime
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: I was just reading the paper on that. the specific way they mixed the quicklime
Izandai: Quite friend-shaped.
Electrodyne: And hot stirring
NanoDelta: the cracks might still be a point of weakness, which would be more of an issue with the thinner margins in modern construction
Tempest2097: Sort of the way we just say eggs when we mean chicken eggs in baking
Spades_Slicc: also the cultural and social programs that have spent thousands of years specifically preserving roman concrete as symbols of culture
spawnofhastur: Similar stuff with Damascus steel.
Electrodyne: so the lime forms nuggets inside
CaptinOfBeez: company of heros legacy edition
spawnofhastur: Unfortunately the concrete industry is understandably a very conservative industry and won't try new things.
Izandai: @Lord_Hosk Yeah, hence the misconceptions about the whole "folded a thousand times" thing and whatnot. It's not that Japanese smithing techniques let you make better tools, they just let you make good tools with crap ore.
spawnofhastur: Viking sword smiths had access to good ore and they still folded a bunch too.
adept_nekomancer: Also I recall hearing that it's less applicable to modern concrete as it tends to be reinforced with steel that is susceptible to rusting.
TheMerricat: @adept_nekomancer essentially this knowledge is useless for anything that has rebar in it, which is pretty much anything we use for actual infrastructure. But it's still 'nice' to know.
NanoDelta: there was reinforcing metal in roman concrete as well, to be fair. I believe it was just sufficiently thick that surface rusting wasn't a massive issue and the self-sealing cracks would have limited the water getting to the reinforcement
spawnofhastur: It's pretty neat that they forged katanas straight and then they curved due to the quenching/cooling process.
spawnofhastur: which is, incidentally, why that one scene in an eragon book was bollocks.
spawnofhastur: coz paolini used katana style forging on a straight blade.
NanoDelta: (and it might have been lead anyway. rome loved lead)
Tempest2097: Rome loved lead to its detriment
adept_nekomancer: @adept_nekomancer Agreed -- knowledge is always worthwhile even if it's not immediately applicable.
spawnofhastur: Lead: it makes things sweet when you don't have sugarcane.
Tempest2097: They used to boil wine in lead for chrissakes
Tempest2097: To make it "sweeter"
NanoDelta: and it's what the water piping in pompei was made of! Big yikes
spawnofhastur: lead vs microplastics duke it out
Tempest2097: They already are in your body if you live near a small airport or are old enough
Izandai: @spawnofhastur I... Don't think that's right. IIRC, the specific reason katana blades curved when quenched was because half the blade had a coating that made it cool at a different rate than the other half. I don't remember a detail like that in the book.
spawnofhastur: i know.
DrakoniteStreams: @spawnofhastur Actually they constantly are trying new things, but it is a slow and quiet process because they do a LOT of very scientific testing, with some individual tests taking years to complete
Tempest2097: Because newsflash, small prop aircraft still use leaded fuel
Tempest2097: At least in the US
RandomTrivia: IAN
RandomTrivia: Otoshi buta
Izandai: Otoshi Buta
DrakoniteStreams: @Izandai Correct. Half the blade is covered in clay in order to cause differential heating and quenching, so the cutting edge is sharp and the back edge is resilient
spawnofhastur: @DrakoniteStreams I mean when the worst-case scenario is buildings falling down it makes sense to be very conservative.
RandomTrivia: !quote 7454
LRRbot: Quote #7454: "I need to be put in jail for the words that I say." —Ian [2021-01-16]
SymphonicLolita: this talk of roman concrete reminds me of a type of etching done in india that can only properly be done using soil from the burned out remains of a specific ancient fortress
spawnofhastur: Oh, Ian, have you been watching any of the sumo basho?
SymphonicLolita: that I cannot for the life of me remember what it's called rn
princess_intell: duolingo is crap with japanese
princess_intell: japanese is a weird language, it turns out
corefluxx: Dropping in late.... What is being crafted this fine eve?
Izandai: @Izandai Yeah, right, thanks. Pretty sure in his book Paolini didn't have them do that (or they did it to both cutting edges, so the blade wouldn't've curved).
spawnofhastur: Apparently a yokozuna level competitor was dropped down into the low ranks
spawnofhastur: Which lead to... interesting things.
NanoDelta: fancy
iris_of_ether: I will say that my spouse did kanji memory practice with the Heisig method, and THEN moved on to actually learning words. But that will not work for everyone's brain, I think
Izandai: demipyroLul
BrowneePoints: I mean, that would require Paolini to be a good author
BrowneePoints: who researches things
Electrodyne: I believe that traditionally they watch TWO videos
spawnofhastur: I find it super neat that a lot of top level sumos are Mongolian. And the Mongolians are a massive force in judo.
Izandai: Huh. Guess they love their grappling sports in Mongolia.
KBKarma: Ooo, Alex brought the work bench?
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: Mitutoyo calipers are the best digital
dyxoncox: Ian, get some Mitutoyos
Meark: The only reason is battery
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: second best are iGuaging, which I use
spawnofhastur: Bokh or Mongolian wrestling is *the* sport in Mongolia @Izandai
NanoDelta: a caliber scale isnt the hardest thing to read
spawnofhastur: They have the biggest wrestling competitions in the world.
spawnofhastur: More than 2000 competitors
corefluxx: @corefluxx Thanks!
Izandai: Sounds about right, then.
KBKarma: Pretty sure that's the median, not the mean.
Meark: Like, if you’re a machinist? Yeah. But for woodworking? The digital calipers are definitely close enough
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: oh boy I recognize those harbor freight calipers
spawnofhastur: Wrestling is one of the three manly arts in Mongolian culture along with horse riding and archery.
gnyrinn: I imagine the supply of good analogue callipers dwindled once the slide rule market collapsed.
DrakoniteStreams: digital calipers are reliably more accurate than you can be in a hobby shop
Meark: Nah, machinists use them all the tjme
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: every machinist I know uses digital
SymphonicLolita: lrrFINE
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: I keas they're pointedly old school
crystal_shooter: I always used a dial caliper in a machine shop
Meark: I mean as soon as you apply a pencil or knife you’re off anyway
DrakoniteStreams: that being said, I love my (cheap) dial calipers. slightly less accurate than my digital, but no batteries
spawnofhastur: i'm assuming the angry zen master as a woodworking teacher.
crystal_shooter: i'm very happy with my mitutoyo digital these days though
I_Drink_To_Forget_Thermo: Mitutoyo is so good, I just don't use mine much anymore besides things for hobby projects
Meark: Yeah, me too
princess_intell: fancy
spawnofhastur: i hope the angry zen master has become the world's most passive aggressive bodhisattva.
Meark: Using it today to plane down some wood actually
Meark: But digital readouts on the planer are also helpful
princess_intell: if you were corporate, you could get unpaid assistants and call them "interns"
Viscount16: pins and tails, for dovetail terminology
DrakoniteStreams: most cheap digital calipers have a data out port (well, solder pads). my project idea list includes modding a set to have a bluetooth interface
Micsig: within margin of error
crystal_shooter: The thing about wood though, is that the caliper is probably overkill in most instances. It's soft enough and breathes enough that the accuracy of the caliper is not as necessary
Viscount16: the flared bit is the tail, the receiving piece has the pins
NanoDelta: what @viscount16 said
spawnofhastur: most faces i've seen are cheeky.
Meark: To a point- getting within a mill can still show gaps
Spades_Slicc: @spawnofhastur Are they keeping it breeki?
princess_intell: i need to watch kung fu hustle again
kusinohki: hi all! just popping in for a moment. what is being made?
spawnofhastur: a cooking weight to keep things submerged while they simmer.
crystal_shooter: Yeah, but getting it to within 15thou is definitely overkill
Meark: Yuuuup
spawnofhastur: Otoshi buta, which means. Drop... something.
Lord_Hosk: Faceoff was directed by Peirce Brosnan in a Richad Nixon mask. Little known fact.
spawnofhastur: My Japanese vocabulary is very influenced by judo.
Meark: (I regularly plane to hundredths of a mill)
TheInnsanity: dove tails, ooOOoo
princess_intell: mmmm wood glue
Meark: No glue!
kusinohki: I imagine the wood glue might also melt if exposed to cooking heat...
Meark: Depends on the glue, but it’s not ideal
spawnofhastur: I suppose you could do it with a traditional bone glue, which wouldn't kill you if you ingested it.
kusinohki: something something "eating paste"
crystal_shooter: If we're trying to stay as close to original design as possible, definitely avoiding glue
spawnofhastur: But bone glues tend to come apart under heat. So.
Meark: (Hence why we use mechanical joints in woodworking)
NanoDelta: oh, real fancy
Meark: Historically anyway. Glue today is far better now
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spawnofhastur: Yeah, I know about traditional glues because I've looked into luthiery @Meark and being able to take it apart again is an important factor
Meark: The literal reason for fancy joints now is because they look fancy, it’s not because of strength
DrakoniteStreams: modern wood glue is magic
Meark: (Joiner here, so this is pretty fun)
Viscount16: there's also something to be said for non-glue joinery for a knockdown build (e.g. a trestle table or bench) for when you want a really secure, stable connection that you can also completely disassemble with just a mallet
spawnofhastur: also i would like to say that they have changed how wikipedia looks and i don't like it.
crystal_shooter: I'm always impressed when people do this sort of thing by hand. I learned aluminum and steel machining first, so I never thing hand tools
NanoDelta: tusk tenons are fun
DrakoniteStreams: @spawnofhastur +1
spawnofhastur: Phoenician joints which were used for shipbuilding are neat.
asthanius: Don’t forget Yaw
SymphonicLolita: the dining table and chairs in my house were made without any glue or screws wahtsoever, which I still find impressive
ANeMzero: Sixaxis was the PS3
DrakoniteStreams: translation x, translation y, translation z, rotate around x, rotate around y, rotate around z
spawnofhastur: I enjoy looking at stone construction without any glue or mortar.
saucemaster5000: pause button controls time
TheInnsanity: I've definitely had controllers take away my time
Lord_Hosk: Have you ever played a video game for like 8 hours and then been like "what? where did the day go?"
princess_intell: well first they kidnapped the TARDIS...
princess_intell: @Lord_Hosk at least 3 times a year
DrakoniteStreams: @Lord_Hosk if by 8 you mean 20, then yes, factorio
crystal_shooter: @Lord_Hosk all the time. I lost so many days to Red Dead
spawnofhastur: The Meso-american civilizations never used the wheel for stuff like carrying goods. Mainly because when you're in a very mountainous area, just. Carrying it. Is a lot more practical.
SymphonicLolita: @Lord_Hosk same....still sleep deprived from accidentally 3am two days ago rebuilding my factory
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL Paul going for damning-with-faint-praise there with "I'm sure you know what you're doing" :D
Too_Many_Knives: LightScribe
Too_Many_Knives: You had to buy special CDs and it was really slow
RandomTrivia: I didn't know that and that's very cool
ANeMzero: Lightscribe was.. not a very good technology
Too_Many_Knives: I think Technology Connections did a vid on it
princess_intell: every review of factorio i've ever heard boils down to "this game ruined my sleep schedule 10/10"
SymphonicLolita: @princess_intell yeah that's basically the experience
spawnofhastur: I saw someone who made a video very specifically telling people not to play factorio if they were into coding or neurodivergent. and especially not if they were both.
spawnofhastur: it ate his life for a full 48 or so hours
Meark: You have bench dogs and clamps!
Meark: (I pray for your hand
SymphonicLolita: definitely not both. nope not at all
kusinohki: is the point to do everything by hand? I'd think a table saw would be very useful here...
princess_intell: @SymphonicLolita so how many weeks got eaten up?
Too_Many_Knives: Jig time?
spawnofhastur: Hand-tool woodworking is fun @kusinohki
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
Viscount16: Alex, please be careful about chiseling towards your hand. it's all to easy to slip. (ask me how I know)
Boon_33: bring the clamps!
spawnofhastur: @Viscount16 given Alex's pumpkin fisting scar he should know too
saucemaster5000: Harrison was 15th, followed by McCartney, Lenin, then Starr
princess_intell: his what scar?
ANeMzero: googles recommendation for "15th president" was the 15th president of The Philippines who definitely wasn't William Henry Harrison.
Too_Many_Knives: Get Jig-gy with it
spawnofhastur: Alex's pumpkin fisting scar.
Meark: This isn’t cheating at all.
Boon_33: good planning isn't a cheat
DrakoniteStreams: it is called a jig. not cheating.
Master_Gunner: humans are notoriously bad at judging angles
Tempest2097: William Henry Harrisson was the 9th president not 15th
Drasvin: Using references is not cheating
Tempest2097: Not that his presidency mattered much
Viscount16: like 80% of woodworking is making and using jigs
crystal_shooter: yeah not using references is more like anarchy
spawnofhastur: Until we've developed AI woodworking it's not cheating.
Micsig: not even a coward, simply an idiot
Meark: The logic that calls this a cheat would also call rulers a cheat
princess_intell: it's like those "artists" who say to never look at a reference at all ever
roseofloki: Paul's voice is deep enough that his voice activates Bass Boost on my new speakers
SymphonicLolita: @SymphonicLolita downloaded it around a month ago, just hit the 60 hour mark...only reason it's not more is because I'm a student and have a job
Meark: (One my projects for school was specifically making a project and all the jigs for it- like, the jigs were more important)
roseofloki: So Ian and Alex talk at a normal level, and then Paul booms in like the voice of the Almighty
Drasvin: More clamp!
Fruan: Memory and vison counts as a reference! They're shitty references, but they're still references. REAL artists don't draw anything they've ever pecieved, because that would be plagerism /s
Master_Gunner: moar clamp!
Micsig: the real c-clamp
Tempest2097: Yesssss more clamp
7gorobei: luddites are all about gatekeeping, rembrandt and norman rockwell got all kinds of flak from fellow artists for using new tech
princess_intell: @Meark "uck, you can't eyeball exactly 5.25 cm? What Ever Major Loser"
RandomTrivia: The only acceptable description of something as "cheating" when discussing personal utility is for comedic effect. I love using it for that.
Tempest2097: You can never have too much clamp
Baldrash: I love clamp.
serramarkov: I'm pretty sure the people who say don't use reference material are the same ones who proudly post hair fails.
Viscount16: if I can offer a suggestion - chop/cut the bulk of the material out at a 90, then come back with the reference block to pare/cut the flare out after
RandomTrivia: Remember that old-internet post about nailing jelly to a wall? Like that used it. :D
Meark: I mean you could program this in cad and put it on a CNC. It’s still not cheating.
spawnofhastur: Man if you want to get into hilariously stupid discussions about whether something is cheating talk to people about deadlifting.
Too_Many_Knives: !what
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princess_intell: yeah, i refer to accent (aka msg) as an IRL food cheat code all the time
Too_Many_Knives: Someone needs to update LRRbot...
RandomTrivia: IAN
spawnofhastur: Another example of a RL food cheat code for making things taste better: thai style fried shallots.
princess_intell: mmmmmmm
spawnofhastur: Those little buggers make everything better.
Chesul: the mirror effect of the saw is actually super useful when trying to make a 90 degree cut, you line up the wood reflection with the wood.
spawnofhastur: Chili crisp, too.
princess_intell: my dad makes chili crisp by the quart
Micsig: It's come all the way bck
saucemaster5000: msg got such a bs rep in the 90s, which was definitely american racism
princess_intell: msg is DELICIOUS and goes in everything
spawnofhastur: Have you made dashi on TTSF before Ian?
ANeMzero: I mean the knowledge that most of the fear about MSG was stoked by bad actors probably helps.
Drasvin: Prepare clamps!
ratstronomer: MSG has been such a wonderful addition to my kitchen - it brings all food to life
spawnofhastur: Vegemite is basically salty msg paste.
spawnofhastur: I was thinking from scratch with kombu
Mordin_Solus_Sings: My grandfather did that, with different colors for different "sets". I followed for my outdoors tools, though not my nice woodworking ones.
corefluxx: A big welding bee with the local comunity
saucemaster5000: Made some recently properly with kombu and everything. Definitely more work than you expect, but it did pay off
Brozard: seabatUseless jlrrNo
RandomTrivia: seabatUseless jlrrNo
Brozard: RandomTrivia YES
Brozard: amazin
RandomTrivia: benginFingers @Brozard
bunbun_0316: PokMaskedpika
princess_intell: somewhere in Victoria, James' ears pricked up and he didn't understand why
NanoDelta: bonito: first turn some fish info wood
spawnofhastur: It's really neat looking at how different cultures use seaweed in a culinary sense.
RandomTrivia: @princess_intell And Ashley automatically reached for the spray bottle
NanoDelta: *into
Timagio: Congrats! It's...a disc
princess_intell: I find it fascinating that all cultures have independently invented booze
spawnofhastur: @princess_intell alcoholic beverages kill you less quickly than contaminated water. that's a hell of an incentive.
TemporallyAwry: @princess_intell And some even invented bread first ;p
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Hybrid woodworking is definitely the way vs going full-Underhill.
Timagio: @princess_intell What spawn said, and also booze is naturally-occurring so it's a bit of an inevitability.
spawnofhastur: although i would specify that you mean all agricultural cultures - a lot of hunter-gatherer cultures never developed it.
spawnofhastur: In the sense of purposefully making it.
Symphoneers: It's harder to make mistakes due to inattention with hand tools, which can be nice.
TheInnsanity: hand tools don't continue running after an injury either
betazed15: @TheInnsanity That.
DrakoniteStreams: booze is currently believed to be the reason humans developed agriculture (not bread as taught in school)
Timagio: @TheInnsanity if you're a COWARD
Mordin_Solus_Sings: @Symphoneers Also less likely to cause life-changing injuries... Though inattentive axe/adze work can still ruin your day
spawnofhastur: Apparently when you arrive in Georgia in the Caucasus they give you a bottle of wine as part of entry.
spawnofhastur: They're really proud of their wine.
Meark: the main difference is infrastructure
Viscount16: have big workshop, have table saw, still prefer hand tools most of the time
spawnofhastur: @DrakoniteStreams iirc the first alcoholic beverage that humans ever consumed was probably mead.
Tempest2097: And then you've gotta hook up the cat-5 for the router...
SymphonicLolita: every agricultural culture has booze and dough pocket with stuff inside
Tempest2097: And hope you get signal everywhere in the house..
Meark: The shaper origin is such a crazy tool
saucemaster5000: @SymphonicLolita what else do you need?
Timagio: Thank you Ian
Viscount16: power tools are *way* more about proper set up, while hand tools are about developing skill. (not a judgement - power tools get way more done for less time invested learning. just a preference)
Meark: Agreed- at the end of the day though, they're all just knives
Too_Many_Knives: Alex do you still have that little knife you made on an early TTSF?
DeM0nFiRe: Eternal damnation seems like kind of a steep punishment for messing up a woodworking project
Meark: spinning wheels of death most of the time, but still just knives
corefluxx: Is F**ky Angle a technical term?
Too_Many_Knives: Sure looks like it
RandomTrivia: @corefluxx Yes
Too_Many_Knives: Neat.
Lysander_salamander: nice
princess_intell: Yahtzee Croshaw Does Woodworking
Mordin_Solus_Sings: You could do it with a router plane on a cross-angle, but that's a fairly speciality hand tool
DrakoniteStreams: @spawnofhastur I don't remember what type it would be considered, but some of the earliest artifacts of civilization are jug-like objects containing residue from an alcoholic substance
Meark: Please make that video paul- (NYWorkshop just brought all their episodes to youtube for free)
SymphonicLolita: @SymphonicLolita honorable mention: throw everything in a pot and boil it
Viscount16: @meark - yeah, it's weird how much woodworking is ultimately "fancy version of an inclined plane/wedge"
Meark: Basicaly all of it, in some format or another
spawnofhastur: @DrakoniteStreams those are usually a beer analogue. Mead has the advantage of probably being something you can find rather than making - rain got into a beehive and diluted the honey, which made it ferment.
Viscount16: except maybe sandpaper
Lysander_salamander: I need to see if there's any community workshops around here to work in. I want to do some woodworking but don't have the space for it.
Meark: even sandpaper is just gritty pieces doing the same thing
Meark: It's also wild to me how much of twitch and youtube has norm abrams and (this old house)to thank for producing content
Mordin_Solus_Sings: And before sand-paper you have card scrapers which are just a curved plane
princess_intell: there is a very real argument to be made that beer is the mother of civilization
avi_miller: Date alcohol is another early alcohol, due to fermentation occurring in the wild.
Meark: virtually every maker channel out there gets their basic format from New yankee workshop[
Too_Many_Knives: It's simple machines all the way down
spawnofhastur: Another early alcohol that people consumed is probably palm toddy because palm sap just naturally ferments as soon as you tap it.
DrakoniteStreams: the only tool judgement I do are people who use an expensive CNC in a video that is supposed to be a how to for beginners that barely own a handsaw
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Is Alex quoting Shannon Rogers? Or someone else?
Too_Many_Knives: plane, lever, pulley in increasingly convoluted arrangements
Electrodyne: so you're saying you're some kind of...chiseler
goombalax: what are electrons if not chisels
Viscount16: so glad the old NYW eps are getting onto youtube now. just so good.
Boon_33: a series of tubes and chisels
kdefinition: if you've seen the graphs of cpu clock frequencies, kinda yeah
Drasvin: A computer is a fancy abacus.
Chesul: a computer is just a chisel we've tricked into pretending to think.
saucemaster5000: I'm also surprised how early people figured out beer.
TemporallyAwry: BobRoss smile down in the corner is kinda upsetting KappaRoss
Baldrash: I loved New Yankee Workshop. Watched it all the time with my dad. Definitely gonna have to check out an episode or two.
spawnofhastur: 'Palm sap begins fermenting immediately after collection, due to natural yeasts in the air (often spurred by residual yeast left in the collecting container). Within two hours, fermentation yields an aromatic wine of up to 4% alcohol content, mildly intoxicating and sweet. The wine may be allowed to ferment longer, up to a day, to yield a stronger, more sour and acidic taste, which some people prefer. Longer fermentation produces vinegar instead of stronger wine.'
Meark: new yankee episodes are absurdly slow for youtube though.
Meark: Someone should edit them down for the new meta
Viscount16: depends on which maker channels you're watching. I watch plenty that are in that same ~20 minute range
Mordin_Solus_Sings: @Meark Modern making videos have gotten quite long though. There's been a weird sine wave of optimal video length for the algorithm
corefluxx: Chisel exit wounds
princess_intell: I watched a video essay that was 5 hours once. not all at once, but still
DrakoniteStreams: @spawnofhastur ooo, yeah. so much credit for early human survival is due to being able to eat fermented fruit foraged off the ground (most animals can't)
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
spawnofhastur: I had some friends who were evangelical Christians and they were very insistent that Jesus et al didn't drink alcohol - the wine in question was unfermented grape juice etc. And I went "...okay, buddy! :D "
Meark: This is true and it depends on the content
Viscount16: for anyone in chat who may not know, but is interested in woodworking videos - check out Paul Sellers channel. it's basically Bob Ross, but for woodworking. (aimed at beginners, very encouraging)
Chesul: IIRC the chisel generally wants to move away from the bevel side. but not always.
NanoDelta: also recommend rex kruger's stuff
princess_intell: uuuuuuhhhhh does no one want to tell them what happens at Passover seders?
spawnofhastur: @Viscount16 Rex Kruger is another good channel, but his videos are usually shorter and a bit higher energy.
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Bevel down tends to "lift" out of the cut, while bevel up will dive into the wood. So you tend to start bevel up for cuts and do final smoothing bevel down
Viscount16: Rex is also great, and def aimed at beginners on a budget. doesn't have the "chill Bob Ross" vibe, that's all
NanoDelta: bevel flat can level out though
corefluxx: Ice Shave?
princess_intell: the answer is wine. about eight glasses of it, as dictated by the haggadah
Master_Gunner: what is a safety razor if not a chisel?
NanoDelta: bevel up and flat, i should say
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Indexing can be done opposite the bevel though, which is a different element
Nigouki: a chisel is just a single tooth saw
Drasvin: Dwarven shaving method
TehAmelie: you know what they say, a watched cheetah never bevels
RandomTrivia: Something amazing, Alex.
saucemaster5000: what is a knife but a thin wedge
Chesul: it's because the bevel pushes the material, and since the chisel is usually the easier to move of the two, it's the one that moves more.
Viscount16: a saw is just a bunch of chisels in a line
Nuurgle: chisels for your nethers
Meark: Wood is just a series of straws...
RandomTrivia: You've begun something amazing
spawnofhastur: @princess_intell you're an aussie, right? there was a very nationally famous case involving a bunch of evangelicals in my home town from last year so...
SymphonicLolita: #wisdom
princess_intell: I think I have a sketch idea
corefluxx: Didn't Beej offer to shave Ian with an ice cold chisel in a comodore hustle episode once?
RandomTrivia: It's designed for couples to pare off lrrBEEJ
Boon_33: tinder is a six foot chisel
princess_intell: @spawnofhastur try NYC
spawnofhastur: huh.
TemporallyAwry: What is a hammer, but a blunt chisel ;p
spawnofhastur: TIL
A_Dub888: Today on TTSF: Why shaving razors are just hair chisels
Meark: @RandomTrivia booooooo
princess_intell: what made me sound Aussie?
spawnofhastur: i might be confusing you with someone else.
princess_intell: just wondering
spawnofhastur: my brain is bad with names.
princess_intell: fair!
RandomTrivia: Getting a consistent bottom is also something you can do with Tindr lrrBEEJ
Nigouki: bottoms are anything but consistent Kappa
Viscount16: I mean, my chisel turns into a razor fairly often while sharpening, sooo...
Viscount16: (to test if I'm done)
Arclight_Dynamo: Update on my own hobby project: I have successfully edited an MS-DOS 6.22 autoexec.bat and config.sys to install a CD-ROM driver on an emulated 486.
saucemaster5000: @princess_intell twitch does a weird thing that starts all your chat messages with "g'day mate" Kappa
princess_intell: lul
xXAYAYAXx: midnig380Slappies
princess_intell: shall I put shrimp on the barbie
LoadingReadyRun: Woodworkers are all about that nice consistent bottom
princess_intell: have Vegemite on toast for brekkie
spawnofhastur: also apparently the zoomers these days are saying "no" and "so good" in an Australian accent? my culture is not a costume. :(
princess_intell: etc etc etc
ANeMzero: The real way you tell if someone is an Aussie is that they're the only people who talk shit about New Zealand.
DrakoniteStreams: do we need to blind bake to get a consistent bottom?
Ed25519: I only recently learned you use calipers for depth.
Meark: But seriously, a skit of norm abrams actually making a modern youtube maker video would be amazing.
SymphonicLolita: horner.
Tempest2097: I now know EXACTLY what I need calipers for
spawnofhastur: @ANeMzero usually in a well-spirited way.
saucemaster5000: Interesting bedroom tool
RandomTrivia: !quote 7000
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Meark: (6 inch metal rulers are the best)
princess_intell: Universal Solder Timeline
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RandomTrivia: Welcome raiders! lrrSHINE
Master_Gunner: If I got a pair of calipers, I couldn't stop myself from going around measuring every single thing in my house. Same reason I don't have a label maker.
princess_intell: when it was declared in LRR chat that we would be entering the Universal Solder
spawnofhastur: You know what I think Alex and Ian would enjoy making for TTSF? A dowel plate.
Doc_Savage_78_: marlieLove marlieHeart marlieLove marlieRaid
Marlies_81: marlieRaid marlieRaid marlieRaid marlieRaid
princess_intell: @master_gunner well what ELSE are you supposed to use a label maker for? how will I know I'm looking at my dog if he isn't labelled as such?
Marlies_81: oooh what are we creating ???
DrakoniteStreams: pcb rulers are a common little item maker supply places make now
saucemaster5000: dog mislabeled as "Scruffles," time to throw it out
spawnofhastur: Same thing, yes, Alex.
Nigouki: Welcome raider! This is what's being made: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otoshi_buta
Marlies_81: @Nigouki thank you!
RandomTrivia: @Marlies_81 An otoshi buta, a japanese drop-lid used to keep food underwater
princess_intell: guess his name is scruffles now. oh well. label maker makes the rules.
RandomTrivia: Hmm, too slow this time
Marlies_81: @RandomTrivia oh wow
spawnofhastur: Make a dowel plate, make yourself free from Big Lumber.
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Those are good because they make a strong long-grain/riven dowel, in comparison to say turning one on a lathe
TehAmelie: "labels are useful as ways to understand the world around you" -label maker advertising, probably
princess_intell: label makers are made to be overused and abused by people like me
spawnofhastur: @Mordin_Solus_Sings they're also very good for when you want dowels of a certain wood for aesthetic reasons
SymphonicLolita: label makers are fun if you're trying to learn another language (given it uses roman alphabet I guess)
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SymphonicLolita: then you can label everything in your house in your target language
Meark: Nah, in this case a proper workbench makes this 100x easier
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
Marlies_81: LUL
RandomTrivia: But a *good* workman knows when their tools are not up to scratch
saucemaster5000: Nobody took me seriously till I started wearing the Otoshi Buta
DrakoniteStreams: that's a different type of stream
Tempest2097: If you see a table on the road, fuck it.
spawnofhastur: If you meet a table on the road, kill it.
princess_intell: I wonder if woodworkers swear at their projects as much as coders do
TemporallyAwry: TableHere FlipThis
Tempest2097: @spawnofhastur Same brain cellllll
princess_intell: because I know coders cuss like sailors
Meark: @princess_intell all the fucking time.
Micsig: what if the table is in a jar?
spawnofhastur: You can't lose fingers while coding!
RandomTrivia: Inexplicably, I have that gif :D https://i.imgur.com/0a25r34.gif
Marlies_81: WutFace
princess_intell: @randomtrivia I have questions
Meark: Especially when it's a dumb mistake like being off by one because your material thickness if off by half a mill
Nigouki: princess_intell swearing at inanimate objects is essential for your mental health
Micsig: @RandomTrivia delete this
spawnofhastur: i'm really excited for a new monikers stream, that was wild.
RandomTrivia: @princess_intell Marquis de Sade should answer them
TehAmelie: hammer, problem solver
TehAmelie: (if your problem is a nail)
RandomTrivia: @Micsig Make me
Micsig: @RandomTrivia Blame the TSA
princess_intell: "can we fix it?" "nope, fuck off!"
Mordin_Solus_Sings: When did this stream turn into a new episode of "The Crapshoot"? I'm here for it'
SymphonicLolita: for real tho
saucemaster5000: Four packs of dank nug
spawnofhastur: i had to leave my old job because the kept me driving a golf buggy for hours at a time and i was inhaling a *loooooot* of exhaust fumes.
DrakoniteStreams: all this while no one is wearing proper PPE
SymphonicLolita: anything to help children not develop carpal tunnel by age 20 is good in my books
goombalax: bob the builder is a site manager, its his tools that do all the building
princess_intell: is there an Ian fire count going?
princess_intell: just out of curiosity
Arclight_Dynamo: Andy Griffith is only public domain if you don't have him wearing his iconic red shirt.
spawnofhastur: Exhaust fumes aren't fun to inhale.
saucemaster5000: Till then all we have is all the Andy Griffith fanfic and the stuff on deviantart
TehAmelie: the toolbox makes the craftsman, that should probably be a saying
Meark: Considering that the vast majority of worker deaths are those under 25 and new workers, Yes. building safety culture at a young age would be good
TemporallyAwry: Don't Put it in your Mouth - but with power-tools PrideShrug
princess_intell: #andygriffith on ao3
Tempest2097: I love old Sesame Street.
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spawnofhastur: i had a paralyzing fear of power tools as a kid due to a traumatic experience.
Tempest2097: That and Fred Rogers entire body of work
Arclight_Dynamo: Staplerfahrer Klaus Babies. You know, like Muppet Babies!
DarknessKingCoH: This Old House is a classic
TehAmelie: how did we get into Staplerfahrer Klaus?
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Social media has has a marked expansion on the hobbyist woodworking scene.
Meark: The proliferation of maker channels has killed maker public t with the exception of TOH
Tempest2097: I understand that y'all in Canada were lucky enough to get Mr. Dressup so that our two countries didn't have to collectively fight over who got the super kind individuals they were.
Boon_33: hot hardwood action
andy_ink: I credit my better than average home repair skills to the vast amount of This Old House I watched as a child.
RandomTrivia: "Today on the show, we'll be showing how to use a saw upside down!"
flamewave7: just saying: naked woodworking is definitely a bad idea
Bruceski: I think 90% of power tool safety lectures are "I nearly killed myself doing this wrong, here's a vain attempt to teach you before you do the same."
Arclight_Dynamo: Did you just write a Crapshot?
princess_intell: reading and shit
Mordin_Solus_Sings: @Meark Most of them died well before YT really replaced TV
saucemaster5000: Electric company slapped
DrakoniteStreams: @Tempest2097 I still can't use his first name
saucemaster5000: (not admitting age there)
Meark: This is true- TLC's decline to reality TV didn't help at all
princess_intell: HEEEEY YOOOOOUUUU GUUUUUUYYYYS
corefluxx: Square One was a US show
Arclight_Dynamo: RIP good TLC.
Bruceski: I caught the tail end of the Electric Company era.
spawnofhastur: On tonight's episode of UNFUCK THIS HOUSE!
Meark: I miss junkyard wars
Arclight_Dynamo: @corefluxx Canada gets PBS.
princess_intell: I grew up with the 2010ish reboot
Bruceski: It was my introduction to Tom Lehrer, who did some of the songs
SymphonicLolita: rip the learmning channel
iris_of_ether: O_O
Boon_33: hot large burls in your area
corefluxx: @Arclight_Dynamo We certainly do.
CAKHost: Thanks for the stream!
spawnofhastur: i mean i blame ronald reagan for everything
Tempest2097: @Tempest2097 I can understand that. the Mr. in Mr Rogers does make him... more than mortal almost
serramarkov: I'm still afraid of electric knives- my dad was a little wild carving the turkey- no injuries, just the accidental threat thereof.
TemporallyAwry: @spawnofhastur I mean - Reagan didn't do it all. There's also Thatcher to blame.
TehAmelie: in my first grade woodshop class the teacher just lied. "if you make a mistake with this machine, it will strip the skin of your whole arm". then everyone was super careful
pn55: Looks good!
princess_intell: pbs kids is still brought to you by viewers like you. thank you.
avi_miller: Yeah, Tom Lehrer wrote songs for the Electric Company
Meark: @TehAmelie There's a reason I take off my wedding ring when I'm woodworking..
princess_intell: y'all know what I miss? dragon tales
TheMerricat: Ronald Regan deregulated _everything_ pretty much universally to our detriment. But man the public loved his ass for it while they bent over for the corporations to take it...
iris_of_ether: This is a Square Hole(tm)
princess_intell: there's always Arthur for that particular itch
Mordin_Solus_Sings: I beleive there was also a study or something that led to kids shows starring kids more rather than adults talking to kids
princess_intell: I loved arthur
avi_miller: Shows about teaching emotional growth instead of academic?
iris_of_ether: @TheMerricat Oh yeah. My mom *hated* him (and still does). But yeah, the hero worship sure is something....
saucemaster5000: @princess_intell I was not exposed to Dragon Tales till certain long nights in the college dorms with a group of friends and a towel pushed into the bottom of our door
spawnofhastur: I think stuff like this is why Bluey is so well regarded.
princess_intell: @saucemaster5000 theme song still slaps, I'm not afraid to say kt
princess_intell: *it
princess_intell: I saw the live show when I was like 3
DrakoniteStreams: @Tempest2097 As the only adult that seemed to actually care and respect me as a child, it just feels too impolite
Tempest2097: That's because Mr. Rogers genuinely did care and respect you.
saucemaster5000: live show?? That's great
spawnofhastur: iirc a bluey episode was the highest rated thing on imdb for a while and then a bunch of anime fans got real upset about it or something.
Tempest2097: He may never have known most of us but I know for a fact he cared for and respected his viewers.
princess_intell: I don't remember much about it, but I remember feeling like it was cool as shit
MrGibberish: Who was also a marine, iirc?
Tempest2097: No that was Bob Ross
DrakoniteStreams: exactly.
princess_intell: yeah he hated telling at people
DrakoniteStreams: Mr Rogers was a Pastor
princess_intell: so he stopped yelling
MrGibberish: Ah
Tempest2097: Mr. Rogers car was once stolen in Pittsburgh and it hit the local news
Nigouki: oh heck yeah Worms is back on Crossing the Streams!
Tempest2097: It was returned with a note saying "If we had known it was yours we never would have touched it"
princess_intell: fuck I'd have felt like garbage
avi_miller: But also, once upon a time, Sesame Street became a thing because they wanted to have a tv program that could also teach some for kids in lower income areas, especially NY. When it was new, TV wasn’t as saturated with shows trying to teach kids.
Tempest2097: Sesame Street was full of good folks, I grew up watching.
RandomTrivia: benginDance
TheMerricat: Bob Ross was a drill instructor and hated it, which is why when he made a tv show he did his best to be the absolute opposite of what an American drill sergeant does.
princess_intell: sesame street actually came out of the first academic report ever written about the possible benefits of children's television
Tempest2097: There were two gas station attendants at a gas station near where I lived as a kid, and their names were Bert and Ernie and man, that was such a little joy.
saucemaster5000: My childhood cartoon thing I still remember fondly was a character called "Dot" who had a kangaroo. From 70s australia, sort of a proto-Dora the Explorer. (I think, never saw dora)
avi_miller: I still absolutely love classic Sesame Street
princess_intell: the report was compiled by the eventual producer, Joan Ganz Cooney
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Tempest2097: Classic Sesame Street is such wonderfully happy television
Chesul: Cleft
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Tail and Pin are the two parts of a dovetail
NotCainNorAbel: sergeCanal
princess_intell: language is wild
SymphonicLolita: the thing in the other thing
MrGibberish: @notcainnorabel Beat me to it
princess_intell: the whoozy on the whatsit
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Pin goes into the tail
SymphonicLolita: what is a dovetail but a miniature canal
Viscount16: the tail is the part that looks like the tail of a dove
Mordin_Solus_Sings: But this is for regular dovetails, like used on the side of a box.
Viscount16: i.e. the flaring bit
princess_intell: pin the tail on the @mordin_solus_sings?
Viscount16: the pins are the bit what the flare locks with
corefluxx: and the green grass grew all around all around
princess_intell: oh, my Night Brain has been unlocked. be ready for some unhinged stuff to come out of my textbox.
iris_of_ether: *record scratch noise*
Lysander_salamander: good ol osiris
Tempest2097: Oh yeah didn't his wife fabricate a new one made of gold?
Lysander_salamander: Then she replaced it with wood.
Mordin_Solus_Sings: As regaled in the popular song ""detachable Penis
SymphonicLolita: that checks out
RandomTrivia: lrrWOW
corefluxx: she must have had fond memories
Auntie_de_lluviel: Set stole it, didn't he?
CodeIndigo: Either it was his wife or it was the British to put it in a museum
Tempest2097: Mythology is weird okay
Shadowsoflife: ^
MrGibberish: @tempest2097 Indeed
SymphonicLolita: @CodeIndigo that joke gets me every time
RandomTrivia: Osiris's wife *also* ended up with a dull tool lrrBEEJ
Tempest2097: Sometime Ask me about the Thor in Drag Story, and why Marvel will never film it and why its good they did because I want my ribs to stay where they are.
Auntie_de_lluviel: Nk
Tempest2097: Er, good they won't film it
princess_intell: my aunt used to be under the impression that her knife block was sharpening her knives(!)
Tempest2097: I would probably injure myself laughing if they ever film that story.
princess_intell: she also claimed to prefer dull knives over sharp ones
Lysander_salamander: Set played a prank where he killed and dismembered his brother, tossing his pieces in a river. The donger was eaten by a hippo I think?
Shadowsoflife: @Tempest2097 one they would need two loki's for one I think
SymphonicLolita: love weird stories from ancient humans
princess_intell: I got into Greek mythos through Percy Jackson
Auntie_de_lluviel: @lysander_salamander That's it..I remember he
Tempest2097: Thor and Zeus are two very different people.
princess_intell: 10 years later, I'm literally wearing a camp half blood shirt to bed
Tempest2097: And I would have a beer with one of them
Auntie_de_lluviel: Set dismembered him, forgot about the hippo
RandomTrivia: The OSP videos on the evolution of various myths are amazing and I fall in that rabbit hole often
Tempest2097: (It is not Zeus)
corefluxx: Paul is referring to Santa Clause, isn't he
saucemaster5000: I always loved the definition of myth as "truth" or rather a reflection of truth. An explanation for what we do not (yet) understand but are truths reflected by story
Lysander_salamander: In the version I read, the replacement part was made of wood. Isis used the "sap" from it to have kids.
Arclight_Dynamo: There's a theory that the Cult of Isis (the Egyptian god) influenced the Christian veneration of Mary.
corefluxx: Did Alex just refer to Osaka from Azumanga Daioh?
Shadowsoflife: It probably Hank Green. He does a lot
princess_intell: if you like Greek myth, Percy Jackson is 10/10. bonus, basically every character canonically has ADHD/dyslexia
MrGibberish: Also, if anyone hasn’t read about ancient Indian mythology: it’s WILD
Tempest2097: If you like Greek Mythology and Action Roguelikes, Check out Hades
princess_intell: it wasn't Hank or John, it was the guy from PBS Idea Channel
princess_intell: Mike something or other
princess_intell: he had reddish hair, a beard, and a very calming voice
Nuurgle: Wisdom is knowing there are two Greens, Intelligence is knowing which is which
LoadingReadyRun: @princess_intell oh, you're right
niccus: Mike Rugnetta
princess_intell: yeah him
saucemaster5000: Back to sesame street/muppet talk, jim henson's the storyteller was amazing
RandomTrivia: The Core is *always* a joke
RandomTrivia: Paul, you can be one of today's lucky 10,000!
RandomTrivia: It's very bad. It's also quite fun
Tempest2097: Jim Henson was just amazing and I owe so much joy to that man.
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RandomTrivia: It's approximately ALL the pseudo-science
Lysander_salamander: Is that the one were folks drill to the center of the earth and then launch nukes into it?
RandomTrivia: @Lysander_salamander Yep, that one
serramarkov: Fabulous bad movie, I just picked it up on Apple + for $5!
aerohydra: we literally watched it in my physics class in high school
Lysander_salamander: Sort of like Armageddon but down?
RandomTrivia: One of the many movies to use the term "Unobtainium"
Master_Gunner: The Core also had Unobtanium.
RandomTrivia: Also, The Core is from 2004, well before Avatar
serramarkov: Unobtanium is from The Core
aayyNico: The Core has it
princess_intell: enough people like it $16 worth
Arclight_Dynamo: It's pretty, so people see it.
saucemaster5000: In the Core they explain how the separate rooms tilt to always align the floors of each room in their drill so gravity is always down... then the rest of the movie they just walk from room to room through doors. SO confusing
Nuurgle: the fandom is "cinema goers who like pretty things"
ANeMzero: Hey, there are plenty of people who love Avatar, and The Legend of Korra.
princess_intell: and James Cameron likes playing with new toys
RandomTrivia: The term "Unobtanium" is from like 50s engineers
DrakoniteStreams: reg you lar people?
laundreydhull: "Unobtainium!?" ...I sleep.
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Does it count as a new IP?
Mordin_Solus_Sings: It's been what, a decade?
princess_intell: I appreciate avatar's "take it or leave it"-ness
princess_intell: it's so up front about itself
Arclight_Dynamo: "Unobtanium" is a decades-old sci-fi joke. Cameron just... used it unironically. I hate it.
laundreydhull: leave. definitely leave
princess_intell: fair
ogundiety: Honestly The Core handled it far better
saucemaster5000: Saw someone describe Avatar 2 as the best universal studio ride ever, and that's pretty acurrate
MrGibberish: “Little” film
RandomTrivia: @ogundiety ^^^
TheMerricat: @Arclight_Dynamo It wasn't _just_ a theory, before Christianity was 'accepted' it was common to disguise statues of the Madonna and her child as Isis mothering Horus, to the point where many Christians were publicly worshippers of Isis as a cover. By the time Christianity became the official religion it Isis was essentially 'Mary' in the view of the Egyptian people.
DrakoniteStreams: according to 10th grade english class, there are only 7 different stories, and everything else is just copying them
ogundiety: "the real name is 60 sylables, but I just call it Unobtainium"- that was the joke in The Core
laundreydhull: Unobtainium predicted NFTs, incalculably
Arclight_Dynamo: @TheMerricat Huuuuh...
ogundiety: and that was too much for Cameron, so he did it without a joke..
princess_intell: originality has been dead for millennia
saucemaster5000: There is 100% no reason to see avatar anywhere except the theaters -- the effects are the ONLY thing that makes it ineresting
princess_intell: we are all iterations
Lysander_salamander: Oh dear
Lobo_Apache: Ass Tribe?
pn55: seabatYIKES
princess_intell: go see avatar if you like very well-madd visual tech demos
avi_miller: ^
SymphonicLolita: both avatar movies are gorgeously rendered pieces of cinema stacked on top of an incredibly mid storyline
TheMerricat: @saucemaster5000 I would argue that while the movie isn't innovative in it's story telling, it's just as good of a popcorn flick as any other popcorn flick. Watching it at home would be fine, just not mindblowing.
Lysander_salamander: which is unfortunate, when you need to talk about those parts for medical or otherwise
princess_intell: I want 3 hours of James Cameron walking through some of the rendering process
MrGibberish: Totally
SymphonicLolita: yeeeah
saucemaster5000: eh, fair @TheMerricat . They are very long, and an hour of it is just kids playing in 3D water. I feel like there's better pulp to consume
RandomTrivia: "So in our culture we have this thing called "furries"... and we made some..."
princess_intell: remind me to go on my diatribe for why Disney World's Pandora should be actively hostile to guests
saucemaster5000: they change the framerate based on the scenes yeah
Mordin_Solus_Sings: The split rate just sounds weird
Lysander_salamander: They had to steal the genetic material from them too. I wonder if they took individuals like UFO encounters.
ogundiety: Some people said that was -really- distracting
ogundiety: I have no idea
jacqui_lantern234: hey all you beautiful friends whomst i love with every fiber of my being!!!!!!!!!! <3
RandomTrivia: I can imagine that making a LOT of people nauseous
saucemaster5000: Again, works in theaters, will 100% not work on a hoe screen
SymphonicLolita: ^
avi_miller: I have heard people say that was distracting at times
TemporallyAwry: @princess_intell Well the authentic non-breathable atmosphere would be a good start ;p
Shadowsoflife: Hey Jacqui lrrHEART
TheMerricat: @lysander_salamander given the parallel was supposed to be how the first Nations and native American people were handled I'm fairly certain we don't want to ask how they got the genetic material
RandomTrivia: @jacqui_lantern234 Hi friend! lrrSHINE benginHeart sergeHeart
Mordin_Solus_Sings: @saucemaster5000 THere are variable refresh rate screens, assuming it's not just encoded ad 48 with frame doubling
SymphonicLolita: oh no
princess_intell: @temporallyawry more along the lines of generational trauma of a species but I digress
Nigouki: It's like anime where they might shift the background every frame of 24 but still only have 12 character drawings per second. Except now it's 24 and 48
princess_intell: I'm a big ol fan of 24fps
saucemaster5000: The hobbit really didn't match up their production with the framerate, was the problem
princess_intell: it's so smooth, so reliable
Mordin_Solus_Sings: 24fps is a technological artifact which will stick around a long time, like the floppy disc icon.
Mordin_Solus_Sings: * due to familiarity
Nigouki: Riddles in the Dark scene really made gollum feel actually alive. Which is interesting because that's one of the first things they've filmed to test all the tech. After that things seem to have run away from them a bit
avi_miller: I think framerate is a fascinating thing to play with in film, like aspect ratio.
SymphonicLolita: I can't handle high framerate stuff...soap opera effect and all that
DrakoniteStreams: 24fps only "looks good" because we are used to it being unique to high end media
saucemaster5000: @Nigouki That was the scene which was like "hey it works!" Then they, as the producers said later, were "laying the tracks in front of the train as it came" and they did not have time to question if the blocking of a scene, costumes etc. would look good
RandomTrivia: IAN
Sethalidos: Ian, no
jacqui_lantern234: IAN YES
SymphonicLolita: yeah exactly paul
Meark: The big thing with the hobbit is that the production values that folks liked about LOTR simply weren't there in the hobbit movies
laundreydhull: so far in progress to TWOW 2 billion break I've mostly heard Mr. Cameron at a boast of his project in a sort of rubbing it in attitude as if anything he could do invalidates the value of other projects and their respective platforms.
jacqui_lantern234: unlike much of chat, im here to ENCOURAGE the words that come out of ians mouth :p
Meark: If that had lined up and the 48 frames wasn't so jarring at times it would have been recieved better
saucemaster5000: We encourage YOU @jacqui_lantern234
Brozard: just wham jangles it so hard
Meark: (please don't force dovetails)
Driosenth: edm dovetail
Brozard: Dovetail Joint - Level On The Inside
Nigouki: discharge
Shadowsoflife: There's hot fitting I think in sword/knife making
DrakoniteStreams: it is wood though. you make the joint too tight, dry it out so it barely fits, then let it re-humidify and it becomes permanent
saucemaster5000: also recently found out the actors who played the dwarves were not invited to the later movie premiers, which is both sad and kinda funny
Meark: What type of wood, I can tell you how much it'll move
CodeIndigo: I came in late, what is being built?
TheMerricat: Since I just learned about these types of lids today chat, I'll share a bit that I consider really cool about them. Before you use them you need to soak them in water so that they are already impregnated with liquid and don't soak up whatever you are cooking under them.
saucemaster5000: ^
saucemaster5000: these are very useful for pickling, btw
Nigouki: Aside from Riddles in the Dark you know what's the best part of the Hobbit movies? The Appendices. You get like 14 hours of extremely detailed making-of features and they go through so much stuff both practical and CGI, including Benedict Cumberbatch crawling around in a mo-cap suit hissing like a dragon
RandomTrivia: When you improve your chisel technique, that's called getting a Bevel Up lrrBEEJ
MrGibberish: Boo
Shadowsoflife: ysbrydPunjail
MrGibberish: @randomtrivia sergePun
TemporallyAwry: @Nigouki *adding that to the list
TehAmelie: they could have extended the appendices and cut the movies down to 2, if not 1. . .
saucemaster5000: @RandomTrivia I approve of this bevel of humor
CodeIndigo: Ah yes, that Authentic Imperium Craftsmanship
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RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
Meark: huh, amazon sells a router plane for 120 bucks.
Arclight_Dynamo: Lee Valley sells a tiny router plane for fifty bucks.
DrakoniteStreams: router plane? like, sky wifi?
Meark: @Arclight_Dynamo The mini set is hilarious
Nigouki: "To splinter while being crosscut. Spelching can be avoided by cutting in from the outside face where possible"
TheInnsanity: is that speed belching?
Symphoneers: Spelching's for the patreon sympho32Currency
CodeIndigo: wait, i thought spelching was the thing with the gerbil
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Oh, are we tallking funny woodworking phrases?
Mordin_Solus_Sings: Spelching, blowout, backbuttering a joint
TehAmelie: spelching is for slenade grunchers
Meark: brace and bit
TheMerricat: Spelching - To splinter while being crosscut. Spelching can be avoided by cutting in from the outside face where possible.
Meark: hehe dado
Drasvin: Atomic woodworking sounds interesting
corefluxx: Bocket of Blue Smoke
corefluxx: *Bucket of Blue Smoke
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
Arclight_Dynamo: "Sure, I'll go get the soufflé pump." Then you go out back for a smoke.
SymphonicLolita: the souffle pump is definitely against tos
CodeIndigo: wait, the souffle pump is basically just a vacuum chamber
saucemaster5000: you have to play a little mario party-eque minigame to inflate your souflee
Meark: fun fact. Sash and window mean exactly the same thing.
Meark: (because cabinetmakers like to make up words for things that already exist)
DrakoniteStreams: Apparently the blinker fluid prank is common enough some places carry a fake bottle of blinker fluid to counter-prank your pranker
jacqui_lantern234: and we thank you for that, ian :p
Arclight_Dynamo: Chiz biz.
RandomTrivia: The words Ian says have more power than any one person should
TehAmelie: like how wowsers didn't happen? lrrAWESOME
KWardJenx: Your restraint is noted and appreciated Ian.
CodeIndigo: clearly
TheInnsanity: witha wood pencil
Meark: google a wobbly dado head. (it's SFW, but scary AF)
corefluxx: Remember... if a thing is marked you get advantage on your attack roll
Meark: it's okay folks we're doing Xylogoy tonight
CodeIndigo: Makerspaces are awesome for both learning and teaching
DrakoniteStreams: the maker space here is run by the university. they have (mandatory) safety classes, but that is about it surprisingly
Arclight_Dynamo: There are actually traditional woodworking markings. https://i.imgur.com/zS6tU9s.png
TehAmelie: that's some leap from a 1/16th inch
jacqui_lantern234: go home imperial system, youre drink
Chesul: I've never heard the term "Mills" only "Thou" for thousandths.
RandomTrivia: Not to be confused with "mil" which is used as an abbreviated form of millimetres
Meark: which is about 2 thousandth of milimetre
TemporallyAwry: The best part of my time doing manufacturing in the US, was that we'd regularly get " m " for both.
SymphonicLolita: yeah I saw that video
Arclight_Dynamo: Look, it's all electron volts. You can measure anything with enough electron volts.
TehAmelie: 1 kg is the weight of 1 cubic decimeter of water at 4°C
Phailhammer: @Arclight_Dynamo SOmewhere, Cam just got an eye twitch and isn't sure why.
jacqui_lantern234: kill a lrrGRAHAM ?! but i like him alive!!! :p
TehAmelie: such elegance
Arclight_Dynamo: @Phailhammer :D
DrakoniteStreams: @RandomTrivia except the metric system says officially that isn't a valid abbreviation
SplittingImage77: Number of Adams?
Lysander_salamander: aaaaaa
Chesul: ah, the reason why thousandths are named "Mils" is because it's short for "Mille" the Latin for "Thousand".
RandomTrivia: @RandomTrivia I didn't mean as a formal thing, but as a casual remark, like "This is 4 mil over" meaning 4mm too big
corefluxx: The US is officially on the Metric System and has been since 1975... just no one there uses it.
TheMerricat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousandth_of_an_inch and ironically using Mils or thou, was a concession towards those who wanted the US to use the metric system.
Chesul: not a good reason, but at least it's any reason.
Lobo_Apache: Imagine Bob Ross, but with terrible measurements. "We'll just add a little bit of randomness. Just for us."
DrakoniteStreams: millimeter also being 1/1000th of a meter
Arclight_Dynamo: Oh. Not CP/M.
CodeIndigo: The US Military uses metric fanatically, same for Department of Energy.
asddsa28: i hate Latin i feel it ruin things why cant let it die
CodeIndigo: You mean freak out again?
Tempest2097: 2038
Arclight_Dynamo: 2038
SymphonicLolita: that's like....yeah
ogundiety: 2038, jan 18th
Meark: as a cabinetmaker, it's absurd that I have to go from metric to imperial often on the same project
TehAmelie: Napoleon said of the metric system it would outlast nations and military conquests. but the US showed him right
Manae: The small measurement thing reminds me: if you haven't looked up the fine adjustment mechanism for the JWST, it is a thing of absolute madness turned beauty
TheMerricat: "CP/M, originally standing for Control Program/Monitor and later Control Program for Microcomputers, is a mass-market operating system created in 1974" :p
Tempest2097: I mean, assuming the space blorpoids don't consume our brains before 2038 or something
Arclight_Dynamo: The end of the Epoch will make Y2K look like a wet fart.
Drasvin: The US Customary system hangs around, at least in part, due to industrial manufacturing.
ogundiety: Since the '18th' people thought it was supposed to happen in 2018
GhassanPL: So what are we woodworking today?
DeM0nFiRe: I think it already happened for GPS or something because GPS only had a smaller number of bits for time? Something like that?
jacqui_lantern234: 2038 isnt SUPER close, but close enough to be scary :p
epsilon_vee: @TheMerricat life's tough when they have to change the bacronym
miniMacGuru: This feels like one of the times you wish you had a router plane to level out the bottom of that rabbet
DeM0nFiRe: Oh it's not unix epoch, it's week number that has rolled over for GPS, it's happened twice
corefluxx: I still can't find anything like that toaster and I really want one
Drasvin: I want a Sunbeam. They look so cool.
Arclight_Dynamo: @epsilon_vee It's even worse - they lost out to MS-DOS as the OS for the IBM PC.
ogundiety: 'The secret toast lever' is a term I didn't know I needed to learn today.
DrakoniteStreams: so, many years ago standards organizations agreed mills vs mils was annoying and confusing and agreed to call the imperial unit thou, and stop improperly abbreviating millimeter. but you have old people in industry that still say mills and people that don't understand the metric system that keep saying mil. This is why we can't have nice things.
CodeIndigo: @Arclight_Dynamo Because MS DOS stole like 60% of its stuff from CP/M
RandomTrivia: Secret Toast Lever Below is my favourite King Gizzard album
Arclight_Dynamo: @CodeIndigo Hey! That was only ever proven in court! :P
TehAmelie: Secret Life of Toast sequel confirmed
SymphonicLolita: lrrFINE
RandomTrivia: lrrFINE ?
TheMerricat: they also lost out because unlike Bill Gates the company behind CP/M didn't return Intel's calls and so until decided to go with someone who actually did. :D
Drasvin: lrrFINE
TheAinMAP: lrrFINE
corefluxx: Sonded like a wood split
RandomTrivia: Hammer, the universal problem solver
CodeIndigo: unimpeded
TheInnsanity: un himbo'd
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
CodeIndigo: because impedance is a thing that people say besides "resistance"
Arclight_Dynamo: @TheMerricat Plus they were charging *waaay* too much for the OS. Like, $300 in 1981 dollars.
Chesul: unimpeded or unhindered.
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SymphonicLolita: today on TTSF, alex is creating a pot weight, while ian is adding to the english language
CodeIndigo: I unhimbered myself in San Francisco last year, and I feel so much better about myself
corefluxx: So they were like the Japanese super toasters are today
RandomTrivia: Unhimber yourself in an outhouse to experience a man's romance
TheMerricat: as an 8-year-old I actually got a free toaster when I opened my first savings account.
TehAmelie: i think the comic Eanie did it three times all on its iown
Arclight_Dynamo: I remember shows from the 90s doing the bank account toaster gag, but it never made sense. Some kind of vestigial cultural artifact.
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CodeIndigo: You can pour water into any toaster, actually
CodeIndigo: but you can only do it once
Lobo_Apache: You can also pour toaster into any water coincidentally
TehAmelie: https://i.imgur.com/s66AMXp.png have you considered NINE KINDS of toast?
CodeIndigo: @Lobo_Apache again, only once, usually
Arclight_Dynamo: Three-phase toaster.
TehAmelie: my toaster has a sliding timer knob. it can make infinity kinds of toast
Symphoneers: Thicc toast Kreygasm
Master_Gunner: how about a $300 toaster that does one slice at a time, but has a touchscreen and can "download recipes from the internet"?
SymphonicLolita: we've had a DeLonghi toaster for like..almost 20 years at this point
RandomTrivia: @Arclight_Dynamo I've always wanted to plug a toaster into my 125A supply lrrBEEJ
Arclight_Dynamo: @RandomTrivia Be the change you want to see in the world?
TheMerricat: "Equity Bank is offering a promotion free Revolution smart toaster when you open a Preferred checking account account and complete the qualifying activities. What you’ll get: Free Revolution Toaster ($350 value)"
lion_byte: gonna need a cup of that wood's shop
ogundiety: What is Alex making, out of curiousity?
TemporallyAwry: Ya'll still using electricity to make toast? Fire is faster Kappa
DrakoniteStreams: I bought a toaster over a month ago and still haven't opened the box. Apparently I didn't need it as much as I thought.
CodeIndigo: that's gotta be one hell of a toaster for $350
ogundiety: Thanks
TheMerricat: @codeindigo it has the magic words smart in front of it so I am sure it's just a regular toaster with an LCD screen and a $350 price tag
Meark: This is absolutely woodworking
Nigouki: slowly whittling away
CodeIndigo: for $350 I'd probably go for a toaster oven actually
SymphonicLolita: woodworking is 95% sanding tiny bits wondering why it's still not level
Meark: @SymphonicLolita cry.
RandomTrivia: For $350 I would literally expect my toaster to run DOOM
TheInnsanity: play doom frame by frame, with each frame printed on toast
DrakoniteStreams: @SymphonicLolita and 4% sanding while knowing why?
CodeIndigo: i do video editing. my toaster literally can run doom, because it's my pc power supply
RandomTrivia: :D
CodeIndigo: i also save a lot on heating in the winter
TehAmelie: for 350 bucks i could replace my oven, fridge and freezer. but i do have a pretty sweet rental contract that way
TheMerricat: @codeindigo I had the check but $350 is actually a lot for even a smart toaster oven. I got one right before the pandemic started in mine was only $175 bucks for a smart multifunction toaster oven that did air frying rotisserie etc etc etc
CodeIndigo: @themerricat Wow. honestly i could go for rotisserie chicken now
xantos69: Fun fact about wood I learned as a kid: It is not uniformly dense. So as you sand sometimes the grain of the wood will cause uneven surfaces the more you sand.
CodeIndigo: thanks for making me hungry
corefluxx: A drop chisel
miniMacGuru: A right angle chisel
Drasvin: A chisel with two handles
WhirlwindAbyss: low hanging chisel
TheMerricat: @codeindigo if I'm going to suffer chat's going to suffer with me :p
RandomTrivia: As we've discovered, it's chisels all the way down
Meark: particular angle and a static distance away from the workplace
niccus: the big time toaster is probably the Mitsubishi TO-ST1-T
CodeIndigo: it's either a chisel, a hammer, or an axe
Meark: an axe is literally just a large chisel
miniMacGuru: You typically use a router plan to take off the last bit after roughing out the rest of the waste with saws/normal chisels. It will let you have an even surface.
asddsa28: that would be a good crapshot
corefluxx: It was just preasure treated lumber is all
RandomTrivia: @niccus That is some THICC toast
adept_nekomancer: Unlike metal, wood does not need to be heated to increase malleability.
TheInnsanity: I have a bog oak pen :D
SymphonicLolita: love bogs
googoltudoris: i know trees generally don't like smoke, but is blue smoke an acceptable sacrifice?
niccus: bog butter is forever
googoltudoris: P E A T Y
Arclight_Dynamo: There's a company around here that recovers old-growth logs from the bottom of the Ottawa River for use in woodworking.
Lysander_salamander: Bogs are great
Arclight_Dynamo: They were logs lost during 19th century logging operations. Sank to the bottom.
CodeIndigo: so it's partially petrified
corefluxx: So it is "Tanned Wood"
TehAmelie: peat, what can't it do?
Lobo_Apache: Ah so that bog was wood
Lysander_salamander: Where you get the bog mummies
asddsa28: soo we need to plant more peat
TemporallyAwry: Not quite petrify, not quite putrefy PrideShrug
adept_nekomancer: So it's wood that's been... bogged down.
Lysander_salamander: heck yeah
TehAmelie: we need to train more bog witches
CodeIndigo: this is probably a stupid question, but if you keep filling the bogs with wood, wouldn't they eventually run out of bogs and thus no more bog wood at all?
Arclight_Dynamo: You can actually very easily ebonize wood. Walnut is especially good for it.
DeM0nFiRe: Idk how popular it still is, but "barncaster" was a thing people would do, building a guitar out of wood from an old barn
TehAmelie: more usually bogs get drained for land development purposes. but we can make more
corefluxx: What about a Bog Oak/Purple Heart chess board
gualdhar: what are they building btw
SymphonicLolita: "Bog-wood is located in conditions of total darkness, and its extraction marks its first exposure to light after centuries of entombment."
Meark: rip
RandomTrivia: OH NO
SymphonicLolita: welp
Symphoneers: SabaPing
Tempest2097: Welp
RandomTrivia: benginO7
ImmortalLen: F
Lysander_salamander: a good prototype
Meark: I know that feeling
DrakoniteStreams: F
CodeIndigo: problem solved!
Tempest2097: F
DeM0nFiRe: NotLikeThis
TehAmelie: bring out the wood glue?
Drasvin: F
miniMacGuru: F
DudelidouX: F
asddsa28: F
Shadowsoflife: o7
LostThePirate: WELP that's a wrap
RandomTrivia: Welp, it was a good run
firehawkzoa: F
pn55: benginO7
corefluxx: o7
Auntie_de_lluviel: ouch. o7
Symphoneers: F
tehfewl: FBtouchdown
TheAinMAP: jlrrDang
niccus: make a wish!
NotCainNorAbel: Learning episode
corefluxx: Cheer100
TemporallyAwry: jlrrFacepalm ... learning is half the battle
Auntie_de_lluviel: A good trial run
miniMacGuru: Was that rabbet cut with or against the grain?
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DrakoniteStreams: it was with the grain, which is much weaker
DeM0nFiRe: You went even further beyond
TehAmelie: hmm do bogs simulate the primordial earth's environment before oxygen was invented?
Arclight_Dynamo: Legit, this is learning.
adept_nekomancer: Experience was gained!
asddsa28: so i leraned alot just form waching
RandomTrivia: We have simply found 3 ways not to succeed!
corefluxx: You learn more from our failures than from your successes
DrakoniteStreams: We got to hang out in the shop for a few hours
TehAmelie: it's surely faster to figure out the order of operations by trying, too
CodeIndigo: it got better and better until it suddenly didn't
Yolysses: Can you hold on to/salvage the handle to reuse?
KWardJenx: Seriously great stream. I'm looking forward to pt. 2 - the successening.
Lysander_salamander: Those are some sweet workbench tools
SymphonicLolita: learmning!
Texan_Reverend: Was the dovetail cut with the grain? Would running perpendicular reduce risk of this type of split?
CodeIndigo: good try both of yinz
miniMacGuru: That reminds me that I need to re-grind my mortise chisel; It chipped last time I used it >_>
SymphonicLolita: ook ook
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
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laundreydhull: I thought they changed that bit. but okay.
CodeIndigo: Cheer100
DaFhaye: Intermession
RandomTrivia: Graham is doing a JRPG correctly
RandomTrivia: "MSQ? What's that?"
Tempest2097: Tabletop industry too
SymphonicLolita: woo
DeM0nFiRe: LIVE benginChamp
RandomTrivia: benginHype
CodeIndigo: hype for live
laundreydhull: I mean, there's still a potential 30th anniversary of Sonic for lrrBEEEJ
SymphonicLolita: microdosing on mozart
adept_nekomancer: One of these months he'll learn how to use stairs
CodeIndigo: spin rhythm slaps.... when are you going to backspin to Donkey Konga?
niccus: out with bpm, in with rpm
Juliamon: He has discovered the joy of salt
SymphonicLolita: wurm!
CodeIndigo: PFFFFFFT NO
TehAmelie: oh worm?
laundreydhull: all turn-based game genres practically use cards
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TheAinMAP: lrrAWESOME
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
RandomTrivia: Thanks for the stream, Alex and Ian! lrrSHINE lrrSHINE It's been super interesting!
SymphonicLolita: dabits
TheAinMAP: guyjudgeBits
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DeM0nFiRe: o/ lrrHEART
Lysander_salamander: hahahahaha
SymphonicLolita: thanks for stream!
pn55: lrrPAUL lrrSHINE
corefluxx: It's Just a Chisel
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
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Nigouki: Thanks for the stream!
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Phailhammer: cya :)
DeM0nFiRe: Why do they call it a coffin plane when you of in the cold wood of out hot eat the wood?