beowuuf: you can rely on chat to be unreliable
corianderd: heads up for more tech issues. sometimes cameras just don't
beowuuf: o7 np
corianderd: like i can't promise we'll be late but setup is still happening
beowuuf: in our hearts you started the stream at exactly 0s
TXC2: Hello Everybody
TXC2: hi beowuuf
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Can't Draw Horses Club (Join Cori, and a rotating cast of guests as they draw horses and stuff (Horses not Guaranteed). Game: Art Stream) at Mon 01:00 PM PST (17s ago).
beowuuf: tech things may be occurring in the background.
: how surreal. tumblr, which i know for a fact doesn't have any spying algorithms, just now recommended i buy a "horse friend" https://i.imgur.com/1XvbGQl.png
corianderd: they live they poop they die
beowuuf: perfect horse!
TehAmelie: a website tamagotchi, sure. but why a horse? why now?
beowuuf: alice in munsterland
Juliamon: TehAmelie Actual answer is that it's an old April Fools' Day thing from early tumblr
Juliamon: so they already had it coded and sitting around
Juliamon: Horses have been memes for a long, long time
TXC2: here we GO!
TXC2: there's horse memes on cave walls
beowuuf: hey cori! hey alex!
TXC2: Hello Cori and Alex
DoodlestheGreat: @TXC2 Yes, but are there cave memes on horse walls?
Juliamon: even cavepeople recognized horses as strange abominations of nature
GhostValv: new bird
beowuuf: camera got over it's dark souls fandom and started working?
mtvcdm: Wake up new bird just dropped
DoodlestheGreat: Good afternoon, folks.
Juliamon: cold, thicc rain
TXC2: hello DoodlestheGreat welcome
DarkNacht: Twitch email notifications so often are such garbled nonsense, just got one for Can't draw horses where the subject line says, Rhythm Café, and the body says Is this your card?
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LRRbot: This problem requires a hole. Where's Mr. Driller? Or James I guess.
TehAmelie: ooh, let's outdo American McGee at his own game
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mtvcdm: LRRBot Alice falling down a hole is kinda the entire thing
Juliamon: Holes actually will be involved, yes
protongun: oh I love that table!
Juliamon: that is super neato
TehAmelie: um i hope you didn't show the internet your phone number there
TXC2: sharpening with GAS!
TehAmelie: now we're drawin with gas
TemporallyAwry: What kinds of pencil are we running with today?
: Different in core properties are a real thing
mtvcdm: Pencils are spiteful creatures
mtvcdm: You can work so hard to get a pencil to work with you and at any time it'll just say 'lol no'
TXC2: I was thinking this looked more like Lois
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mtvcdm: This is worse than that time Danny Trejo met that walrus.
dragonlord0739: oh nicee
beowuuf: cori holds her head for a solid two minutes making oof noises
LordZarano: OH, I was trying to figure out what an HB 2 is since HB is the middle of the scale and can't have a number. It's HB (Europe), 2 (US)
TehAmelie: i heard something about McGee not being done with that game, recently
KBKarma: I think Disney?
beowuuf: he's two days early this time
TehAmelie: i tried googling "one upon a time" but i only found old fables and stuff
TXC2: March hare played by flavour Flave
BlueMechanic: I read a summary of the show once and it was so convoluted that my brain started to melt
Juliamon: it shrek
TXC2: it's God Emperor Leto II
TehAmelie: maybe alternate universe Shrek from BoJack Horseman world where he's played by a caterpillar
beowuuf: @TXC2 that would be preferable. seems about 250 years in to his 3000 reign, good period of time, looked good
TheMerricat: Afternoon Cori and Alex, afternoon chat! How goes the not horse drawing?
TXC2: hello TheMerricat welcome
ThorSokar: I also remember a toadstool
: @TXC2 @beowuuf
KBKarma: They do!
: how else do you think he saw the golden path?
KBKarma: Melange, the Spice.
KBKarma: Best drug ever.
beowuuf: sippin' on gin and mentat juice
omdorastrix: Shrek x Ekans... Shrekans
TehAmelie: i don't remember a lot of Dune actually, but does everyone do spice while it's also mega expensive and rare?
KBKarma: Not really, as I recall.
TXC2: TehAmelie everyone WEALTHY does yes
KBKarma: Rich people do spice.
KBKarma: Spacers do spice.
TehAmelie: of course
KBKarma: The Fremen do spice.
Juliamon: If you can afford to do spice, you do spice
KBKarma: That's basically it. Everyone else on drugs are on entirely different drugs.
jibkat: Yeah the spice is in the air
GhostValv: second hand spice
TheMerricat: Fremen hotboxx.
JadedCynic: nah, spice does the Fremen
miniMacGuru: I know it's a week late, but after restocking on craft supplies, I got a hexahexaflexagon made today.
TXC2: I maintain the spice is Shai halud larva
KBKarma: Like, I think the Sardaukar are on some seriously mad murder drugs. Or something.
beowuuf: ariakis. dune. druggy planet.
jibkat: Also you get addicted to it super easy
Manae: Sandworms canonically have great-smelling breath
KBKarma: That Hatter's mad on quicksilver!
: "mad as a hatter" a phrase that was coined because we used to use mercury to make hats
KBKarma: Quicksilver quick!
beowuuf: oh no, mer cury!
TheMerricat: "During the 18th to 20th centuries, hat makers used mercury to stiffen felt for hats. They used a type of mercury called mercuric nitrate and worked in poorly ventilated rooms. Over time, the hatters inhaled mercury vapors."
BlueMechanic: Hares are really big
KBKarma: As I recall, my physics teacher told us stories of how he would handle mercury as a boy.
KBKarma: Hares'll fuck you up. Rabbits run.
BlueMechanic: longer limbs
TXC2: Hares run and are bigger, rabbits hop
emberBecky: hares are like gangly rabbits, right
TemporallyAwry: VERY different anatomy as well. Proportions on a hare is wild.
HasturTheYellow: Hares are wild wilderness prophets that refuse to tell you their secrets
HasturTheYellow: Rabbits are puffballs that will eat all your wires and make you bleed
DoodlestheGreat: Hares, for one thing, do not live in burrows like rabbits do. They live in open depressions called scrapes.
TehAmelie: we also used to use mercury in antiseptics. people put that in their wounds >_>
KBKarma: I'm learning facts about hares that I did not know. I was just being silly.
KBKarma: Fun fact: silver actually does have antiseptic properties. I don't recall how effective it is, but it does things.
TheMerricat: btw chat, not that I suspect many of you have vintage felt hats. But mercury was used all the way up till the 1940's in the US, so if you do - it would behoove you to buy a testing kit and check your hat for mercury before actually wearing it that much.....
tehfewl: the walrus and the carpenter
HasturTheYellow: @tehamelie "If it can kill me, it can kill infections, slather it on Doc"
omdorastrix: @kbkarma copper and its alloys to iirc when used for door handles and such are self disinfecting ..
KBKarma: Yup, I heard about that.
TehAmelie: i do have a 1950s flat cap, but that should be safe
jibkat: How do you feel after licking it?
KBKarma: Some crowd near the start of the pandemic sold copper door hooks (ie use it to open doors) for like $15.
LordZarano: @HasturTheYellow To be fair that's basically how chemotherapy works
KBKarma: I've seen some Li'l Abner.
Lord_Hosk: Im familiar with Lil'abner
beowuuf: actual age or back state?
DoodlestheGreat: Yes, I'm old enough to remember Lil' Abner. I'm 59.
TehAmelie: it came up on twitter the other day
KBKarma: There was a HobbyDrama post that refers to it as an aside.
miniMacGuru: I remember reading _about_ Lil Abner, but never actually ready any of it.
: I learned about it TODAY, because the guy who drew it was somewhat like the dibert guy
DoodlestheGreat: I also remember Pogo.
emberBecky: I know lil Abner by name only (36)
omdorastrix: I was a kid in the90's .. Does that count
emberBecky: I think I read what you read @TXC2, yeah
KBKarma: Nemo in Dreamland was referenced a lot in the webcomic Narbonic. Every year, Shaenon Garrity would do a Nemo-themed strip that would hint at plot points in the coming year.
KBKarma: Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland
RealGamerCow: I thought it was too
TheMerricat: @TehAmelie The irony here is that merbromin (the most common mercury based antiseptic) wasn't removed from the “generally recognized as safe” list by the USFDA till 1998, they didn't move it to the 'banned list' they moved it to the “untested” list.
mtvcdm: Because he's theoretically the only person who'd eat sandwiches like that
omdorastrix: What alex said. I thought that too
Manae: It's named after him, as a dagwood is just a sandwich with anything thrown on it you can
Lord_Hosk: He makes the sandwich with everything, therefore the giant sandwich is called a dagwood
KBKarma: New soldiers in the US are called jarheads.
KBKarma: I think?
TXC2: KBKarma Marines, but yes
TehAmelie: in sweden we have Dagobert sandwiches, because Dagwood got translated to Dagobert for some reason when the comic strip made it here
TheMerricat: @KBKarma Marines are jarheads.
Juliamon: I would argue Jughead wasn't the first cartoon character to be burger-focused
Lord_Hosk: a moon
LRRbot: Open the boat rock.
beowuuf: my suggestion would be never trust chat
RealGamerCow: Didn't Brenda Starr get *REAL* weird at the end?
TheMerricat: "The phrase “jarheads” is also a slang phrase used by sailors when referring to Marines. The term first appeared as early as World War II and referred to Marines' appearance wearing their dress blue uniforms. The high collar on the uniform and the Marines' head popping out of the top resembled a Mason Jar."
LurkerSpine: The term first appeared as early as World War II and referred to Marines' appearance wearing their dress blue uniforms. The high collar on the uniform and the Marines' head popping out of the top resembled a Mason Jar.
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TXC2: "a marine is called a jar head, because, like a jar, it is empty"
Lord_Hosk: You recruit for all military branches
: beat you by a second @LurkerSpine
tehfewl: all the branches recruit
TXC2: hello princess_intell welcome
princess_intell: Have there been crimes yet
KBKarma: We're discussing Dagwood and marines!
jibkat: Conscript I think was what they were looking for
princess_intell: We have a reputation to uphold
mtvcdm: There's a lot of military slang that boils down to just giving shit to the other branches, or your own crappy situation.
jibkat: 'The U.S. has not had a draft since 1973, but yes, the U.S. Marine Corps inducted draftees in both the Second World War and the Vietnam war eras.'
TXC2: princess_intell Cori said her queen of hearts looked like Peter griffin
jibkat: You could be drafted into any branch
jibkat: even the coast guard
: also hey princess_intell
: jibkat or the national guard, where all the rich kids went
princess_intell: @txc2 the only joke I can come up with is saying "off with her head" but that's not true at all
princess_intell: Hey jib, fancy seeing you here
TehAmelie: Jarhead is a fine movie. don't know about the four sequels though
TXC2: TehAmelie FOUR?!
princess_intell: Yeah, all direct to DVD iirc
TheMerricat: I believe it's still technically illegal for men to in the US to 'fail' to register for the Selective Service when they turn 18.
jibkat: Jake was only in 1
TehAmelie: yep. and he's only in two of them i think
jibkat: 2-4 were generic action movies
TehAmelie: or one
: @jibkat Hey!
beowuuf: or universal soldier
LordZarano: "Off, off with head. Dance dance til you're dead.
TXC2: the 3rd one is ok IMO
Talin06: the last 3 are basically the opposite movie
KBKarma: I watched the cartoon of Starship Troopers.
TXC2: "it's a good day to die, when you know the reasons why"
KBKarma: Never even heard of the film until way later.
princess_intell: Who's that holding a hammer
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TheMerricat: The folk who made the Starship trooper extra movies failed to get the note that the first movie was a parody/satire of the book and went whole hog into "Hu AH! Facism is AWESOME!"
KBKarma: Like American Dennis the Menace.
princess_intell: Gee golly wow, mister
princess_intell: I thought Dennis was already American?
: @TheMerricat satire?
: @KBKarma thank you for saying american to avoid confusion
Texan_Reverend: @princess_intell I think it's the carpenter of the walrus and the carpenter.
TXC2: It's weird to me just how DIFFERENT the US and UK Dennis the menace are
KBKarma: Well, I grew up with both.
jibkat: what does clap some cheeks mean?
TXC2: jibkat sex
protongun: oh this sure is a think to return to
HasturTheYellow: Good Golly Gosh, I gotta get me some Fertility Idol tonight
KBKarma: Also weird: both Dennis the Menaces started the *exact same day*
princess_intell: There's a UK Dennis the menace?????
beowuuf: @TXC2 and the fact both just happened at the same time
omdorastrix: Looney tunes chacter drawing a vpn tunnel on a computer...
DoodlestheGreat: To pw0n some n00bs?
TXC2: princess_intell a comic strip yeah
ContingentCat: That reminds me of the idea I saw somewhere that I love thinking about where vampires pick up slang over the years and just keep mixing them
tehfewl: i imagine a Tex Avery Cartoon wolf in a Zoot Suit saying that
cheezweazl: No cap Daddy-o!
princess_intell: I know some zoomer lingo
RealGamerCow: "Hey Wally, Linda asked me if I wanted my Beavussy ate. Do you think I should?"
FITorion: who's one first Zoomer edition?
emberBecky: I think if you do actual zoomer lingo, most of us won't understand =(
: Where's the party with the young kids at?
princess_intell: It's pronounced "chewgy" and it describes something out of date and uncool
KBKarma: Golly gee, Mr. Steacy, let's get a T-bird and go down to get some gnarly waves!
beowuuf: @princess_intell totally different character, far more uk bart simpson with a dod called gnasher
princess_intell: Deadass, no cap
KBKarma: Were they in California?
RealGamerCow: But weren't they in New York?
omdorastrix: @princess_intell yes there are two, completely different comic called "Dennis the menace". One in us and one from uk
princess_intell: Ironically, yes
ContingentCat: Weren't the ninja turtles in New York?
FITorion: Who's on First Zoomer Edition (corrected)
tehfewl: they were 100% new york
: Yeah, the StreetSharks were the ones from California
mtvcdm: The Turtles were Manhattan
ThorSokar: Turtles were in New York
RealGamerCow: Pizza, etc.
TehAmelie: Sophie Campbell's take on Ninja Turtles is my jam
KBKarma: The mutagen conferred Californian residence.
: they couldn't have been from chicago as they didn't spent 100% of their time forcing pizza opinions on people
jibkat: STREET SHARKS
jibkat: oh deer
princess_intell: We may call everyone "asshole" but we do it with love
princess_intell: It's a grandfather thing
TehAmelie: how about the Biker Mice from Mars? okay they're probably from Mars
princess_intell: I can get into it
ThorSokar: it's the best pizza you'll ever have
KBKarma: There are a load of woodfired pizza places here.
DoodlestheGreat: Originally, they spoke very clearly and seriously. It wasn't until the first cartoon that they started talking like they were extras in the background of "Valley Girl."
RealGamerCow: It tastes fine. Cooks VERY quickly.
jibkat: I got a question princess_intell have you seen the owl yet?
beowuuf: pirates of dark water, totaly from dark water, ohio
KBKarma: @TehAmelie I was about to ask about the Biker Mice, and realised that they were from Mars.
princess_intell: Not all of New York is central park, so no
ThorSokar: stone wood-fired pizza ovens cook completely differently
noSmokeFire: The biker mice from mars were probably  from mars
jibkat: Darn it
KBKarma: I was about to say that too!
princess_intell: Also central park is fucking massive, so seeing one specific owl is like a needle in a haystack
TXC2: like Iowa, or Kansas
FITorion: DC continuity is kinda messed up... Metropolis is New York... Gothem is also New York...
protongun: well, the turtles rebooted enough times to always remain teens
omdorastrix: To be fair, 50 years old would be a teenager for a turtle
mtvcdm: And then there's the Mighty Ducks, who used their hockey arena in Anaheim as their base
KBKarma: They're still teenagers if Bart Simpson is still not a teenager.
princess_intell: Coal fire pizza fact: it's illegal to build a new coal fire oven, but if you already have one you can keep it
Lord_Hosk: They were played by turtles in their mid twenties to avoid the labor laws but they were supposed to be teenages.
TehAmelie: sewer skating sextugenarian turtles
: I feel it important to mention - the StreetSharks thing was a joke
princess_intell: So that's why you can still get coal fire pizza in NYC
jibkat: who gives you coal for your pizza fire?
protongun: except for the last samurai thing, I think they were all well in their 30s when they all got brutally slaughtered
TXC2: Dawson casting we call that
princess_intell: @jibkat boston
amuseoffirebane: the latest cartoon, Rise, has them act a lot more like teens (and is a+)
princess_intell: There is no winning that fight alex
jibkat: Sounds like the guy who doesnt show would win
princess_intell: Also, the best pizza in NYC is the one you like the most
KBKarma: I'm vaguely confused by the Mighty Ducks thing. The movies had actual people, but the TV show was cartoon anthropomorphic ducks.
princess_intell: I refuse to pay more than $1.50 for a slice unless I absolutely have to
princess_intell: Woah, that looks amazing! Alice is one of my favorite Disney movies
jibkat: but I want a whole pizza
TheMerricat: My head canon for the simpsons s that every episode is literally a day after the previous. Thus only approximately 2-3 years have passed 'in-universe'.
beowuuf: amok turtle time
FITorion: coal coal or charcoal? Coal contains Mercury... and Arsenic and such... I wouldn't want to cook food over it.
jibkat: TheMerricat how come they had so many holidays?
KBKarma: @TheMerricat They have had a *busy* few years.
princess_intell: @jibkat then buy the whole pizza. It'll be like $12 and theyll heat it up for you
TheMerricat: @jibkat Lazy.
TXC2: TheMerricat for me, most of seasons 2-8 work if the year is 1992
KBKarma: Reminds me of the fact that the entire plot of FFXIV canonically took a few months.
princess_intell: I love Alice in wonderland so much
jibkat: the simpsons uses the marvel comic timeline
TehAmelie: Alice Liddell i believe is the real person she was based on. some conflation may have occurred
jibkat: everything in the past was a few years back
jibkat: and they retcon events to match
: That works too
princess_intell: I actually went to an exhibit once about the difficulties of translating the original Alice novels
TXC2: warehouse 13 uses Alice Liddell a bunch
princess_intell: It's all wordplay and poetry that only makes sense in English, so translators basically have to write a new book
jibkat: The real Alice didnt like the books after growing up
jibkat: That was a weird relationship
princess_intell: Yeah, unfortunately
princess_intell: Is this Disney's Alice design?
TXC2: it's wild how much each line Alex added changed the hair style so much
princess_intell: Wait no it's original, neat
TehAmelie: just remembered the comic Namesake, has to be my favorite iteration of Alice
princess_intell: Oooo never heard of jt
RealGamerCow: The Queen is the evil CEO
beowuuf: alice in legaland
jibkat: japanese saleryman alice
protongun: Is this what Alice: Asylum is gonna be?
beowuuf: the hare ir the HR
jibkat: working 14 hour days and think drinking in keroki bars till 2am
TXC2: I can see the Disney+ ads now
Styxseus: Ah, Salarice
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 45:05.
SpacePotato01: Board room meetings with the mad hatter...
princess_intell: The worst part? I'd watch the D+ version
TehAmelie: after many years of ETC Alice has been conditioned to fit into competitive society
princess_intell: It's basically impossible for me to hate an Alice adaptation
jibkat: Bill Murray christmas tale
princess_intell: I even liked the tim Burton movies
: of course the Disney+ show would Queer bait endlessly
princess_intell: No time to say hello goodbye
: The moral of the story is "No, companies are actually insane"
princess_intell: You're late you're late you're late
amuseoffirebane: when Alex first drew the tie I was like... green day Alice?
DigitalSeahorse: I feel like I got run over today
bytecaster: Can you really like rabbits too much? Is that even possible?
: @TXC2 hey, the willow show pulled the trigger! it's not all edging
TehAmelie: too much stress can do that
protongun: I love the rabbit's lil' shirt and tie!!!!!!
selrahcthewise: 1 rabbit still jumping on the bed?
princess_intell: Or just have half the cast be animals and no one says a word
protongun: the bnuuy is a tiny liddol businessman!!!!
TheMerricat: That's a Wiggin's level joke there Cori...
princess_intell: No explanation, no nothing
princess_intell: Just deal with it
TemporallyAwry: @princess_intell And a single muppet.
DoodlestheGreat: Alice in Officeland.
jibkat: Bowjack style hey
SquareDotCube: Hare today, gone tomorroy
princess_intell: The two kids whose daycare is closed for the day
beowuuf: tweedledeez nuts
TehAmelie: the Red Queen could be a pointy-haired boss, but would it even be a joke?
SquareDotCube: Question is, who handles accounts receivable, and who handles accounts payable?
KBKarma: Oh hey, it's Tweedledee and Tweedledum!
TXC2: "the rich cooker broke!"
sssshafer: Been rewatching road quest, still great alex!
TehAmelie: they live next to the water cooler
mtvcdm: They found cake!
: Mad Hatter is HR
princess_intell: And the dormouse is just a depressed assistant
jibkat: cold take, road quest rocks
princess_intell: @jibkat ice cold
princess_intell: Cool even
TemporallyAwry: Who would be "That one person whose department doesn't exist, but they haven't been fired yet"
princess_intell: The carpenter and the walrus
DigitalSeahorse: Always someone's unbirthday
princess_intell: No, the dodo from the cactus race
TehAmelie: random thought, would it be more the rabbit's style to have multiple clocks for different timezones?
TehAmelie: i'm late, i'm late, i'm always late somewhere. . .
SquareDotCube: Jabberwocky works mailroom.
princess_intell: Did y'all hear about the Alice ballet the royal opera did awhile ago?
amuseoffirebane: omg I love that ballet
princess_intell: The vorpal letter opener went snicker-snack
jibkat: oh god
princess_intell: They made the mad hatter into a tap role and it was amazing
jibkat: I dont want to touch a vorpal letter opener
princess_intell: Best decision ever made
jibkat: the only head nearby is mine
RealGamerCow: Cheshire Cat is HR: constantly smiling, mostly invisible, possibly evil?
jibkat: No HR is the queen of hearts
princess_intell: @jibkat guess I'll have to send some playing cards fhen
TXC2: mad Hat3r: Tokyo drift
SquareDotCube: Okay, Hatter us definitely IT with that kind of hat
TehAmelie: we have replaced one of the papers in Alice's inbox with a vorpal paper sheet. let's see if any surprising paper cuts happen!
SquareDotCube: White hat? Black hat? Nope, just Mad Hat.
omdorastrix: Is this Alice meets the office
princess_intell: It's beautiful
LRRbot: I wonder how Putt-Putt would work in this game.
TheMerricat: As someone who spent 10+ years working alongside HR, Queen of Hearts is the C*O of your organization, the Cheshire Cat is the HR representative for your division.
princess_intell: And whoooo are you.
TehAmelie: HR is your friend! (lie)
TemporallyAwry: Milk Experiment #3
princess_intell: Some go this way and some go that way
miniMacGuru: Janitors that dispense wisdom or walkmans with headphones?
TXC2: this is a modern retelling, Alice works at a pharmaceutical company
mtvcdm: Don't drink me until yesterday
princess_intell: Yesterday tomorrow this morning
Garfman314: we need bill the lizard
RealGamerCow: Yes Alex, yes!
omdorastrix: Experiment #' 1, 2, and 4... No one knows where #3went
beowuuf: hatter is the newsie that's investigating the company for their neferious crimes..
SquareDotCube: Somehow, Alice's cubicle is the only cubicle whose monitor hasn't been upgraded from a CRT.
LRRbot: Remember chat, break time for the streamer means break time for YOU, so unclench, get up, stretch, walk about a bit, and maybe get a drink or go to the toilet if you need to. Don't forget to wash your hands!
TehAmelie: "we all go a little mad sometimes" is the only quote i know of Cheshire Cat and it super sounds like something HR would say
princess_intell: I could honestly hang out here just quoting Alice all day
TemporallyAwry: I still feel bad for the Raven writing desk joke. It was good and an editor ruined it.
TXC2: right chat I'm off
princess_intell: By tox
beowuuf: night txc2!
TXC2: Goodnight everybody, and thanks for streaming Cori and Alex
: @TXC2 have a good one
princess_intell: I hope they include a crocodile
princess_intell: How doth the little crocodile etc
princess_intell: I need to read more poetry by Caroll
TehAmelie: it might not make any sense, and i'm not expecting Alex to draw it, but i'm picturing the janitor Ahti from Control as the janitor
princess_intell: Maybe memorize some
princess_intell: I should probably just find a really nice, hardback edition that includes Wonderland, Looking Glass, and a poetry selection
TehAmelie: such things should be available
princess_intell: Found one on amazon
princess_intell: Full color Tenniel illustrations too
beowuuf: and pencils
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SquareDotCube: Manager Hearts and her army of productivity reports
TemporallyAwry: Hatter is either IT or Sales, and I'm not sure which is a scarier concept to me.
tehfewl: OL Alice is powerful
beowuuf: CF$O, does the music
TehAmelie: the Red King sleeps all the time and the people believe he dreams their universe, right? so just like a real CEO
princess_intell: Whomst among us hasn't met an IT with a clinical caffeine addiction
: @princess_intell I feel personally attacked
SquareDotCube: CEO spends 80% of the day just on the golf course
beowuuf: remember when he told aragorn 'there's more of the gravy than the grave' about you?
princess_intell: @temporallyawry can stop whenever you want?
TemporallyAwry: @princess_intell I have been informed that I'm worse without. But yes, I drink decaf after my 2nd cup.
SquareDotCube: So, where do the chess pieces come in?
TehAmelie: so Alice in Legaland eh
AvarianCA: Good day folks!
Laserbeaks_Fury: The White Knight arrives during the Hostile Takeover arc
princess_intell: The playing cards are the poor web dev team trying to cater to the Queen's every whim
Laserbeaks_Fury: The Suits lol
: For a second my brain lagged and I was about to agree with you about how great Homestar Runner is
TemporallyAwry: Like the characters in anime that are just grey outlines.
TehAmelie: a deck of 52 interns, that's the dream
princess_intell: And once an episode one of them gets comedically beheaded @temporallyawry
beowuuf: reminder: there is an entire askLRR about alexisms
princess_intell: And a desert bus clip!
beowuuf: i like you, i think you are coal.... a real diamond, but without the pressur
TemporallyAwry: The Alex to Internet to English dictionary would be a fascinating artifact of our time.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Wonder Mifflin
TehAmelie: i know a quote from a Watch + Play episode that goes something like "one of these days one of us is going to have a stroke and the other won't be able to tell he's not making a joke"
Laserbeaks_Fury: Wunder Mifflin is probably funnier
: loving the pulsifer retrospective book alex! speaking of starting to push your art
SquareDotCube: "Can Draw Ponies Club"
princess_intell: I like that Alice is still wearing a headband as an adult
princess_intell: So many versions take it away
: *purifier even, yes
serramarkov: I love Purifiers, I hope you return to it someday!
Laserbeaks_Fury: Furiouser and furiouser
princess_intell: Faster and faster
TehAmelie: it happens to a bunch of creators these days that their speculative fiction premise gets ruined by the real world
LordZarano: It's not in the US!?!?
ThorSokar: builder is to non-specific for us, it tells you nothing
princess_intell: We call it construction in the states
princess_intell: Construction worker
TemporallyAwry: William Gibson has mentioned that a few of his books got scrapped because the real world got to it ahead of him. It's odd.
jedi_ninja_duck: To us it's nonsense, because We go by specific trade/contrustion
beowuuf: minecraft teaches us to build you need to destroy
princess_intell: It gets more specific
mtvcdm: I just assumed 'builder' was code for 'this is for kids and we're not going to bother to specify the actual job, so he just builds stuff'.
Laserbeaks_Fury: The builder needs a torch so they can see to install the lift
Styxseus: I was gonna say, "contractor" sounds like such a broad definition
princess_intell: @mtvcdm same
beowuuf: contractor to us is the person you get in to do the job you fired them from three months ago at four times the wages
ScrapyardGhostTrain: Builder is brick & mortar.
: "A builder is a person whose job is to build or repair houses and other buildings. The builders have finished the roof. Synonyms: construction worker, engineer, producer, developer More Synonyms of builder." - says the Collins English Dictionary and _they'd_ know!
mtvcdm: We probably wouldn't use 'contractor' for a show for kindergartners anyway.
princess_intell: I could hire someone to fix my sink, that would be contractor
Laserbeaks_Fury: Brick and Morty
princess_intell: I contracted them for the job
princess_intell: @laserbeaks_fury boo
TemporallyAwry: I'm waiting for the punchline to the joke that is the english language. Surely it's not just the U in aluminum.
: so many ukisms coming out of canadian mouths right now
Laserbeaks_Fury: Would the watercooler have a Post-It that reads "Drink Me"
mtvcdm: I'm getting notes of Stardew and My Summer Car now too
SquareDotCube: well you start with one, and then friends happen
princess_intell: It's always so odd seeing Canadian spellings for things like color
beowuuf: need to start from the ground floor
mtvcdm: My Summer Flat
princess_intell: You all "speak American" so whenever a commonwealth oddity slips through, it stands out
TemporallyAwry: We also ripped up half the foundation because it's eff'ed. iirc.
TehAmelie: 20 euros on Steam, seems tempting
TheMerricat: @Laserbeaks_Fury Cori suggested a fridge full of weird food with notes saying "Don't Drink me", "Drink me" etc....
TehAmelie: "free brownies from the fridge fairy, definitely not drugs"
fastlane250: holy shit, two car games
princess_intell: Fans are the worst
mtvcdm: Also very very different settings
mtvcdm: my Summer Car, you're some rando hick in Finland. Jalopy, you are escaping the Iron Curtain.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Knave of Hearts is always eating other peoples food in the frige
princess_intell: Is summer car a pleasant game
princess_intell: "the knave of hearts, he stole those tarts / and took them quite away"
beowuuf: peter falk da man
princess_intell: Like the song?
beowuuf: can't wait for it to come to the uk
princess_intell: That sounds clever
neebusjeebus: like scooby doo
beowuuf: the littlest columbo with the running away? or the incredible columbo if she hulks out at the end?
Laserbeaks_Fury: There was a tweet where someone said Cardassian crime stories were basically just Columbo
Laserbeaks_Fury: Yes those ones
ScrapyardGhostTrain: If it isn't, it should be.
Laserbeaks_Fury: I think Garak says somealong the lines of they always start knowing who is guilty, they story is about how the police figure out how they did it
beowuuf: there's a 10 minute youtube video of the 'it's a fake' paired with benjamin's 'it's real' and the editor did the occasional timing tweak
princess_intell: I have been tasked with watching measure of a man from TNG
Laserbeaks_Fury: Lower Decks is good. I would skip Picard
Laserbeaks_Fury: I don't know anything about those Discovery shows
princess_intell: Matt's discord has been going BONKERS over Picard
beowuuf: i have two episodes of picard to watch. i need to start series 3. i must
princess_intell: And NOT with praise
TemporallyAwry: @Laserbeaks_Fury I got through season 1 of picard out of spite, I've never been so angry about the betrayal of canon that was that show.
thegreatwyrdling: No horse mangling today Cori?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Season 2 wasted an extremely powerful moment it never earned
: cool but
Amras0x00: featherless quadruped
princess_intell: But if someone on CDHC draws a horse, the universe will have completed its mission and then end
beowuuf: neigh pressure or anything
princess_intell: Or is that just if cori draws a horse
thegreatwyrdling: I believe Alex.
TheMerricat: @Laserbeaks_Fury TBF to Picard, canon of that show was already completely effed by the way Paramount created the JJ Abrams universe....
beowuuf: can't draw horseS, we're allowed one of them
FITorion: cappybara horse
princess_intell: So as long as the second isn't drawn, we're safe
: Spider Horse - nope, we Bloodborne now
Laserbeaks_Fury: This is just Sleipnir
princess_intell: Well that's disturbing
Styxseus: Oh the horse got promoted
TehAmelie: this is the office's workhorse
princess_intell: Hi nightmares
: Well, we got a jabberwocky afterall. Good Stream
TehAmelie: does the horse have a pointy nose or is it sad?
princess_intell: Is this the same office concept?
TheMerricat: She's got ribs for miles....
beowuuf: the important question is how many apples tall are they?
princess_intell: Dang this is cool to watch
princess_intell: It's a bunch of sketch lines then you blink and it's a whole person
TehAmelie: unimportant question for Alex, do you have reference or is this just freestylin'?
Styxseus: Drawing as a thing is fascinating
bytecaster: The Gathering? As in sometimes you draw a good hand and sometimes you can't draw a good hand no matter how hard you try?
princess_intell: Other horrors for you artists:
princess_intell: The other eye
princess_intell: The other hand
TheMerricat: Oh this Alice isn't here to fuck around....
thegreatwyrdling: Cori and Alex,, are you listening to tunes while doing your art thing?
: The other eye is my current horror
princess_intell: This looks like a cover illustration
thegreatwyrdling: Gotta sample that for the audio board.
princess_intell: Dang the queens crown
princess_intell: And what I'm assuming is the vorpal blade
beowuuf: reminder that while twitter hasn't burned to the ground, you can share any draw a longs under the hashtag #canthorse or something. Presumably on mastadon too. but that needs the hastag #canthorseopeninside
fastlane250: dead horse do not eat
bytecaster: But wouldn't it be funny if we got #canthorse trending!
TehAmelie: sorry but the joke is obviously "dead horse, do not beat"
bytecaster: The official hashtag is of course #horsecantclubdraw
Laserbeaks_Fury: I never played the McGee Alice games
TehAmelie: cause you shouldn't beat a dead horse, see
bytecaster: Also don't beat live horses, that's mean!
TehAmelie: that's how you get a dead horse!
princess_intell: Holy shit the skirt is made of playing cards
beowuuf: then you sell it in the landlord game
TehAmelie: murder hair
xantos69: Well kudos, what you are drawing right now is better than anything I have ever drawn.
Boopity: "Are u ez to draw cause I like you"
beowuuf: so far
princess_intell: Is that American McGee's alice
aiamethyst: I have added hair to the potential list of cdhc topics
Laserbeaks_Fury: I like that skirt, it suits Alice
TemporallyAwry: @Laserbeaks_Fury #PunCrimes
princess_intell: Alice's voice actress also voiced Wendy darling
Laserbeaks_Fury: Whatcha gonna do with all the trunk
LurkerSpine: Heffalumps and Woozels
LurkerSpine: Winnie the Pooh's Nightmare fuel
beowuuf: okie dokie drawing club
Laserbeaks_Fury: FunFact: Dumbo is the only character in the movie who doesn't talk
Kelderan: Howdy what are we doing he... *Sirens go off as he remembers memorizing the Jaberwocky in 7th grade*
Laserbeaks_Fury: Ad breaks are good time to grab a snicker snack
: I can't wait for this to be a song next DesertBus
northos: @Laserbeaks_Fury #notsponsored
LRRbot: Desert Bus for Hope will return next year, start saving your donation money now!
TemporallyAwry: Oh good. just checking ya' know.
: next year??!
Juliamon: It's the "we don't know the official date for the next one yet" placeholder
bytecaster: Everybody knows the "Desert Year" begins with Desert Bus.
fastlane250: whatever date it ends up being, I won't be ready. I'm never ready.
Juliamon: You never truly can be ready
TehAmelie: bet on the first Friday of November, you probably won't be far off
beowuuf: queen of abs she had some stabs
TehAmelie: making comics every day teaches you stuff eh
fastlane250: damn, he shreddin
Juliamon: Strokes should always be one direction, whether adding or removing.
bytecaster: It's what comes after Shikai, duh
Laserbeaks_Fury: Oh, he dieeed
bytecaster: It's important to take a little break in the middle of the word though!
: And it's certainly not a metaphor for anything
TemporallyAwry: Ya' still using Deleter? Or on to a different ink?
TemporallyAwry: If it works it's good. I picked up a small bottle of deleter for the impossible levels of sheen you can get off it. It's fun.
KeytarCat: I'd let her cut my head off
beowuuf: definitely rules
: It's like the photographic memory people that have made the standard for "smarts" being able to endlessly regurgitate facts on demand. do what works.
ceteee_: Hi Alex and Cory!
ScrapyardGhostTrain: I just realised that (McGee's) Wonderland & orks use the same currency - teeth.
Boopity: Yeah, I've never heard a real human being say reference is cheating, but I definitely thought so as a stupid teen, so I don't know where that came from
jedi_ninja_duck: Drawing without reference is you learn to draw it wrong
KeytarCat: I feel like it's like deck building. It never occurred to me to just grab a decklist until I got back into TCGs in the pandini
ceteee_: I can't draw without references nowadays and honestly it's for my own good
DigitalSeahorse: Kids are kids
TehAmelie: i had an uncle try to teach me drawing by just tracing, and that did feel like cheating and probably put me off learning to draw for 20 years
KeytarCat: Why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way?
ceteee_: Tbh tracing is okay if you're tracing from your own assets (photos, etc)
KeytarCat: And, like, rotoscoping is a thing
DigitalSeahorse: A study is okay. Just don't forget to give reference credit when you do that and post it
ceteee_: Yeah there are a lot of ethical tracing for art
Styxseus: I mean, it all depends on what you wanna do right? Unless you're specifically practicing drawing things "from imagination" then there's no reason to not use reference to make things better or learn more things
Juliamon: Tracing can help refresh your muscle memory for certain stroke movements
KeytarCat: Like most tools, it's mostly fine, but can be used for ill
Styxseus: and even then, practicing with reference and stuff is still helpful for training your "draw from nothing"-skill
Boopity: @Styxseus Yeah, even drawing things from imagination requires you to know what things look like first. People who draw from imagination just practiced enough to not need reference.
Juliamon: "you're not a real artist if you need a ruler for a straight line"
KeytarCat: I like "Know why you're breaking rules" as a mirror of "Learn the rules so you know when to break them"
TemporallyAwry: Also - some people literally can't picture things in their head, so references are sorta vital.
theambivalentagender: I do comics and use the csp models a lot and I keep feeling like it’s cheating even though I do know the rules and I know lots of comics artists employ those kinds of tools to save time.
princess_intell: OFF WITH THEIR HEADS
josh___something: I think less than 15s
: @theambivalentagender The impostor syndrome is real
iris_of_ether: Thank you for this blessing while I'm stuck in traffic
princess_intell: Don't listen to idiots on DeviantArt
josh___something: At least, from when you left the chair to when you came back
Styxseus: And yeah, like mentioned above, rotorscoping and things like motion capture are very real parts of alot advanced works
josh___something: uhoh... is it water soluble?
theambivalentagender: Tracing is also such a valuable learning tool for me because I find my muscle memory catches on to things a lot quicker than my visual memory
princess_intell: Rotoscoping has been a vital part of animation since at least the 1920s
martinasart: Very cool
: @theambivalentagender i even use a h-games for my models sometimes
josh___something: I thought Lightfastness was how a measure of how long it takes before it fades
princess_intell: And mo-cap has arguably been an animation tool since the 1970s
josh___something: Das a leaky boi
DigitalSeahorse: It means doesn't fade over time when exposed to light
theambivalentagender: Before I figured out the csp models I used to take pictures of myself in the poses I wanted, which I guess is kinda like homemade mocap lol
Boopity: We have mocap at home
ceteee_: Mocap at home pog
princess_intell: I encourage everyone with an interest in animation to watch folding ideas' video about Bakshi's lord of the rings film from the 1970s
DigitalSeahorse: I still need to order posca pens in white
KeytarCat: Try to not softlock hobby projects
jedi_ninja_duck: Yup totally, and machining screw ups are much more expensive to deal with
josh___something: A L E X
xantos69: But just the tip
Mysticman89: just the tip'd for that
: Is it safe for highlights?
: That's fair
jibkat: What is docking?
TemporallyAwry: That last one did not make it into the final cut.
josh___something: Jacob humping a table was in the highlights
jibkat: I never saw the end of the clip
: Time for pain ointment unrelated
princess_intell: Hi 2023 highlights!
Mysticman89: unreal sex acts might be ok, but unity sex acts are absolutely not.
KeytarCat: @jibkat 👉👈
theambivalentagender: One of my favorite highlights will always be Kathleen explaining to Serge what an o face is
DigitalSeahorse: Omega upside-down
jibkat: @jibkat its the shy emote?
Boopity: @Mysticman89 What about custom-made sex acts?
: I love each and every last one of you
KeytarCat: @jibkat That was the demonstration Jacob gave
princess_intell: To quote Serge, OH
: I dont get it
Mysticman89: I saw another explanation of docking by an unrelated streamer that was very similar. it conveys the message well.
xantos69: @Mysticman89 Some brave soul out there is currently developing a whole new engine for sex acts!
Mysticman89: whats this about google docs?
DarthRagnar815: Ooo, I might need to get me one of those...
: Docking is when you play the Switch on your TV
: just ask serge tomorrow on moc
princess_intell: @mysticman89 sure!
DigitalSeahorse: You can google docs tho
josh___something: Google Doc-ing is fine, Googling "Docking" is NSFS (Not safe for Stream)
bytecaster: Is this what those Laptop docking stations are for?
princess_intell: If you want them to be!
DigitalSeahorse: I love this drawing
: I'm sorry Mods
Mysticman89: somehow i feel like thats another diceyn google
TehAmelie: but at what cost?
beowuuf: wasn't vagina bones that victoria detective?
: I'll save chat the google - https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/vagina-bones - importantly "the word became a target of online mockeries in May 2016 after being mentioned in a tweet protesting the censorship of a female character's physical features in the Western version of the Japanese role-playing video game Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE" which I imagine how Kathleen got roped in...
DigitalSeahorse: Your epidermis is showing
Amras0x00: doggo face on the left there
Mysticman89: thank you for that
theambivalentagender: God I struggle with backgrounds
korvys: In fact, less detail is better - all art is contrast
mtvcdm: Oh, yeah, Bob Ross would talk about that all the time.
Boopity: Yeah, blurry isn't bad. Hard edges and soft edges are both equally important
theambivalentagender: I hate drawing out a cool background then adding speech bubbles and having them basically block all of the art
mtvcdm: Basic shapes in the back, detail in the front.
mtvcdm: That's how you create depth.
bytecaster: Also known as the art mullet?
Styxseus: Ooo, thats neat tech
mtvcdm: You know what, yes, that is the Art Mullet now
LordZarano: Bokeh makes things blobby
theambivalentagender: I’ve now been making note of panels that will likely have a lot of dialogue so I know not to get too precious with the backgrounds there
korvys: New term. Chat invented it just now.
: Suspicious Pauses
VillageFlipper: basic shapes in the streets, details in the sheets
: Is that the real reason some comic book artists are so wordy? They don't want to draw the background?
: @TheMerricat Wooow
theambivalentagender: I do a lot of stuff in the wrong order tbh. I don’t have a finalized script for dialogue, just a general idea to inform each scene.
TemporallyAwry: Just trying to slam the story into a finite number of pages too.
DigitalSeahorse: Show. Don't tell.
Boopity: Oooh, the reverse coloring book
TemporallyAwry: !card show and tell
LRRbot: Show and Tell [2U] | Sorcery | Each player may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land card from their hand onto the battlefield.
bytecaster: @Boopity Is there a paint-by-numbers book where you get an illustration and have to put in the numbers?
Boopity: @bytecaster Someone get on this niche
Amras0x00: @Boopity I suppose you could do this with any art book
: ow do you go outside the lines if all you r doing is drawing lines?
josh___something: Where does one procure self-worth?
TheMandrew: Alex I wanted to say I enjoyed your subnautica streams, got me interested in the game and am just waiting on a sale
KeytarCat: @josh___something Mitochondria?
Boopity: @josh___something An upsettingly scarce resource
ScrapyardGhostTrain: That's Jacqui's job.
ghyllnox: Chat is always right!
LordZarano: Also, therapy
ghyllnox: And never listen to chat
TemporallyAwry: If the whole world is in on the conspiracy, maybe that's fine.
Laserbeaks_Fury: "Maybe they just don't know better" -my brain
bytecaster: I don't know, maybe they were bored
mtvcdm: Goodbye everybody!
: bye youtube
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Crossing the Streams (The LoadingReadyRun crew join hands (sometimes from the comfort of their homes) to play some video games! Game: Drink More Glurp) at Mon 05:00 PM PST (1:21 from now).
bytecaster: So are we not people?
: Where Alex go
: That's me
: 100 and everyone went away
: 50 Bits!
mtvcdm: (echo) GLUUURRRRP!
bytecaster: Is that how you say that?
LurkerSpine: woo Hi-Fi Rush
TemporallyAwry: FunPuff took me a second to parse.
: LRR has an official Discord server! And you don't even need to be subbed or anything! You can join here: https://discord.gg/lrr
: bye! thanks alex! thanks cori!
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Crossing the Streams (The LoadingReadyRun crew join hands (sometimes from the comfort of their homes) to play some video games! Game: Drink More Glurp) at Mon 05:00 PM PST (1:16 from now).
TehAmelie: hmm what was the real hashtag for horse club now?
TehAmelie: oh well, chat gets to see my accomplishments in using reference
Juliamon: sorry, I was busy watching fake gamer guys being mad on twitter
LordZarano: Originally it was #CantHorseClub now it's #CantDrawHorsesClub
TehAmelie: who could blame you
LordZarano: There should probably be a command for the horse club hashtag