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Metric_Furlong: !findquote crank
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Juliamon: ah right, I should refill my coffee
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GhostValv:

GhostofJeffGoldblum:

Metric_Furlong: Dark Cori and Dark Cameron
Invitare: it's not time for Lets Nope
KeytarCat:
I see the pupil of the world 
Laserbeaks_Fury: S-Corn
Invitare: if you can turn one on, aiming dots are supposed to help a lot with motion sickness
v_nome: @Laserbeaks_Fury S-got-the-juice?
BrindleBoar: lurking in the shadows
Robot_Bones: Now the mouse feels
ghyllnox: Ah I see we're dark mode today
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Backpack Bill
matthaus_c: mon petit chou-fleur
GreatWahooney: suggestion to call backpack friend Back Pat
Laserbeaks_Fury: My Backpacks got sweats
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matthaus_c: wish that were me
GhostValv:

Metric_Furlong: a noodly appendage
Laserbeaks_Fury: SO MAY HOTDOGS
Juliamon: It could be pareidolia, but who cares
KeytarCat: You could say it's a machine for pigs
Laserbeaks_Fury: Gertrude the Extrude
Metric_Furlong: alternate title for this game: Amnesia, a mechine for long pigs
Metric_Furlong: *machine
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GhostofJeffGoldblum: it's weird that that's the only thing that doesn't need to be fisted to open.
Laserbeaks_Fury: totally an RC remote
Metric_Furlong: I did try playing OG amnesia once but that game is *really* not good for my motion sickness
GhostofJeffGoldblum: everything else? get elbow deep in there. but not the key.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: ooh, that'
GhostofJeffGoldblum: s loud
Juliamon: Welcome to... the combat.
GhostValv: with slides!
Metric_Furlong: the podcast about engineering disasters? with slides?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Or sausages
Mushbie: well one engineer and two professional shitposters
Invitare: I think it's just an art
Laserbeaks_Fury: And that was the second time we died
GhostofJeffGoldblum: gotta 3D print a new hotdog body
KeytarCat: Yay, we found a way to die! wait
Invitare: I wonder WHY we are
Riiiiiiis: So I just rejoined - what's with the dark camera?
Metric_Furlong: including combat feels like an odd choice for a puzzle game
Mushbie: @Riiiiiiis attempt to lessens Cam's motion sickness
Juliamon: The combat is absolutely where the game falls apart
Riiiiiiis: ok
GhostofJeffGoldblum: unfortunately the game has a pretty significant amount of combat, and it's not...great.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: it'
Laserbeaks_Fury: My Flesh is My Passport, Verify Me
ashteranic: @Metric_Furlong combat you don't necessarily always need to engage with. there's some instances where you can just back off and let something pass.
GhostofJeffGoldblum: it's a big part of why the game came in as "mid" for so many people
KeytarCat: Oh good, easy checkpoint, if not fast
Juliamon: it's just... not good, with how minimalist the game is with clear direction
TehAmelie: it looks like our weapon is some kind of alien frog leg we galvanize into kicking
matthaus_c: it would be strong if this game did the Soma thing of a dying NPC muttering "I was happy..."
ashteranic: Just because it's there, doesn't mean you need to attack it.
SpacePotato01: Apparently it's possible to avoid a lot of the combat by just backing away? I saw one person do it. Haven't played it myself, ymmv
GreatWahooney: serpent time, already?
SpacePotato01: Supposedly they designed it with the idea that the critters don't actually want to fight you.
mhbmk2: yeah I suspect the combat is super awkward to encourage you to run away
Laserbeaks_Fury: There is a heal button
CanPlayGames:

Nigouki: squeeze balls for extra health
Juliamon: also the heals are.... really pathetic
Jobot180: So, is there a plot or narrative happening here?
Laserbeaks_Fury: bloorbs
ashteranic: It left through a hole.
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KeytarCat: @Jobot180 There's a story explored in the game, but I don't know how to answer your question
Juliamon: The plot is very obtuse.
Laserbeaks_Fury: So is this like Organic machinery thats fallen into disrepair, and by disrepair I mean rampant mutation
GreatWahooney: it kinda weirdly reminds me of Philip K Dick's Autofac
Jobot180: @keytarcat I guess I'm wondering if the game is more plot driver or art style focused.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Like imagin if your car didn't rust, it grew etra limbs
Juliamon: 100% art style focused
RixtonSnek: Greeting and salutations. Why are we sitting in the dark?
Juliamon: You can play through the whole game and never understand why any of it happened
Jobot180: @juliamon Got it, thanks
KeytarCat: "Sorry boss, the generator got cancer"
Gaelan_Maestro: The game needs to be longer
Juliamon: Like, there's clearly a reason for things happening, but it's so alien we can't hope to understand
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I think this game mostly succeeds at what it's trying to do outside of the combat
GhostofJeffGoldblum: the combat just breaks the flow, unfortunately
Juliamon: The plot, such as it is, never really does explain *why* the combat exists
Laserbeaks_Fury: I actually recall running past a bunch of enemies
Gaelan_Maestro: @ghostofjeffgoldblum yeah it would be a awesome puzzle adventure game,
KeytarCat: Don't judge, you can't cross knee high barriers
RixtonSnek: Hugs!
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Bill come on man
GhostofJeffGoldblum: be cool
Laserbeaks_Fury: Irritable Backpack Syndrome
GhostofJeffGoldblum: "may I be excused for a moment? my backpack needs to take a shit."
KeytarCat: Oh right, some people share beds
GreatWahooney: Claaaaaaw!
Laserbeaks_Fury: Just call me "Mr. Butterfinger"
flammenarsch: must feel real cold and squishy, putting your fingers in the console everytime
GhostofJeffGoldblum: no we cannot see Cameron at all
GhostofJeffGoldblum: and only barely Cory
GhostofJeffGoldblum: it's very spoops
Laserbeaks_Fury: This is every Souls boss fight
RaklarLS: ugh, i hated this entire bit. so fiddly
Metric_Furlong: good old pont jesus christ range
GhostofJeffGoldblum: oh, see, I have learned to fear the humble hot dog
GhostofJeffGoldblum: a single hot dog can d erail your entire day
Laserbeaks_Fury: It's very reminiscent of the Alien tounge-piston
Juliamon: The game is very, VERY stingy with the heals
RaklarLS: ye, we got to the lil chickens
Juliamon: love the fucked up chickens, hate that we're forced to fight them repeatedly
ghyllnox: Have we seen our own face? We might also have hotdog face
GhostofJeffGoldblum: on the Let's Nope playthrough they were often skirting the line of dying, yeah
korvys: It's also the old match 3
Coloneljesus: alex and graham have been playing those
Coloneljesus: or trying
RaklarLS: graham and alex have been playing those lately in watch and play
Robot_Bones: This is just Homesapes with extra steps!
Coloneljesus: the pin games are actually just not in the actual game in most cases
Laserbeaks_Fury: Schism really is just about solving meat puzzles
RaklarLS: need orb for pondering
Juliamon: It's a setup for a later plot point where you can't interact with something you expected to be able to interact with, and have to find a way to fix that
Jobot180: Why no grabbie?
Astramentha: 🎶Mr crane arms/ Crane me an arm
Laserbeaks_Fury: Ground floor: Perfumery, stationery and leather goods. Wigs and haberdashery, kitchenware and food...Going up!
SkylerRingtail: Was about to ask why the dark room, then I looked at the game and immediately started getting motion sick. Yeah...I get it.
Jobot180: Is there a "call elevator" button?
Laserbeaks_Fury: I believe we need to retrieve another ball from storage
Laserbeaks_Fury: Ball are stored in the pee
Juliamon: yuuuup
Juliamon: it's buuuuullshit
GhostofJeffGoldblum: yeah Scorn kind of thinks it's Dark Souls, in this regard.
Juliamon: nope, one refill only
ashteranic: yep. There's a lot of value in just avoiding combat entirely.
RaklarLS:
except when you can't 
ashteranic: heh, well, at least until you can engage in it a bit more effectively.
Gekyouryuu: Why it dark in room? Can't see cori, or if she's got a cam with her
Laserbeaks_Fury: We seem to be pot committed
ashteranic: they're trying to reduce motion sickness.
Gekyouryuu: Ah, gotcha
Laserbeaks_Fury: drop a save?
Mushbie: @Laserbeaks_Fury not a thing
KeytarCat: We can save??
Mushbie: it's only autosaves
Laserbeaks_Fury: I thought there were hard saves
KeytarCat: oh
Laserbeaks_Fury: oh well
Astramentha: Both
flammenarsch: must be cold and humid
Coloneljesus: it's exactly 37C
matthaus_c: it all feels like a cold sweat
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I think it's cold and humid
GhostofJeffGoldblum: like a gym locker room with the window open
RaklarLS: i mean, something something womb
Jobot180: Instead of blood, I choose to believe it is the liquid inside a gushers fruit snack.
Mangledpixel: I am cold
ghyllnox: I'd think it'd be warm and extremely moist
GreatWahooney: I would guess the room is warm like a toilet seat that feels recently sat on
GhostofJeffGoldblum: If you're cold, they
matthaus_c: is backpack friend hot or cold
Laserbeaks_Fury: It's cold, my piston is usually much bigger
GhostofJeffGoldblum: re cold. Let them i n s i d e
Fanklok: @Jobot180 That's still blood
GhostofJeffGoldblum: Cory beat me to it.
Juliamon: Look at all those... chickens
KarnakGWJ: walking Vienna Sausage
notBrunoAgain: Hey Cameron, hey Cori. Video game looking wet tonight
Mangledpixel: chnkn
matthaus_c: three studies for figures at the foot of a crucifixion?
MAPBoardgames: It's going into the walls! It's going into the goddamn walls!
ghyllnox: Signs point to yes
KeytarCat: @notBrunoAgain Giving Bloodborne a run for its money
Mangledpixel: !findquote hotdog
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GhostofJeffGoldblum: !addquote "I need a cup of this hot dog's piss." - Cory
Coloneljesus: dingle the dongle
GhostofJeffGoldblum: so much to unpack in that sentence
RaklarLS: stalacdongle
KeytarCat: Does the piston have a visual cue that it's armed? I think I saw it...exhale?
BusTed: Surely we have i-frames when in cutscene!
RaklarLS: better, we have despawning powers!
Laserbeaks_Fury: This Bolwing ALley has a terrible return
Mushbie: @KeytarCat it has an "ammo" bar on the right side of the screen
matthaus_c: we shouldn't brag about our legs, we don't want to take them for granted here
emonotony: Or in general, turns out you can live to see yourself without the legs.
BusTed: oh, backpack friend
GreatWahooney: Back Pat is angy
RaklarLS: it's really cold, you see.
KeytarCat: Bill checkpointed us, we cool
GhostofJeffGoldblum: I read a theory once that backpack friend is the previous "us" from the first part of the game, now mutated
Sharkfists: *glomp*
GhostofJeffGoldblum: neat idea
matthaus_c: having a bowl of noodles and watching this is an interesting experience
emonotony: matthaus_c Tomato sauce?
matthaus_c: you bet
Mangledpixel: oh it's not a dead end, nothing is dead here
notBrunoAgain: the combat in this game is so awkward
Mangledpixel: it is a very alive end
Sharkfists: big mood honestly
MAPBoardgames: Hurry up and waith
matthaus_c: this elevator is a bureaucrat!
Laserbeaks_Fury: Chicken Baby is just in there furiously mashing the Close button
matthaus_c: short gun!
Juliamon: Ammo up
Laserbeaks_Fury: e1m1 theme starts playing
RaklarLS: you need to reload btw.
RaklarLS: i did the exact same thing first time.
CaptainSpam: No camera today?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Doom decided
Fanklok: This isn't fun it's ART
Juliamon: !camera
LRRbot: The camera is off to help Cameron and Cori avoid motion sickness.
CaptainSpam: I see.
MAPBoardgames: This game needs a Soma-style "no monsters mode"
Juliamon: Also: just like the heals, ammo is limited.
matthaus_c: @MAPBoardgames true tho
matthaus_c: Soma got so much out of that patch
KeytarCat: Bill here making us hear ourself bleed
RaklarLS: yeah, the combat feels mostly unnecessary
matthaus_c: to be fair, the human combat was even more frustrating than the Alien!
notBrunoAgain: I feel like this game was kind of greedy in picking horror trope experience pillars. They made it disconcerting, confusing, AND disempowering. You gotta pick two at most.
Laserbeaks_Fury: If you hold down aim, the reticle will shrink
matthaus_c: it's like every enemy is oddjob
RaklarLS: it got stuck in development for 8 years, so i guess they just picked all the best bits and threw them together at some point, without thinking to much about it, because it had to be done.
Juliamon: Sure can't
KeytarCat: So not a shotgun just inaccurate?
notBrunoAgain: Where are you holding the little ammo pack though. Is taht just hanging out in your mouth?
Juliamon: notBrunoAgain Backpack Joe
RaklarLS: also, there are definitely headshots and proximity dictates how much damage you deal.
Juliamon: Our backpack buddy holds our stuff, in exchange for our life juices
matthaus_c: oh these puzzles, I liked these
emonotony: RaklarLS "eh it works, good enough, we'll see how it goes" does give it an organic feel that's on theme
notBrunoAgain: See I think that if combat is supposed to be this awkward nerve-wracking affair in an environment of pain and confusion, it's kind of not conducive to skill expression features like damage falloff or headshots
RaklarLS: true, it does. It just ends up more frustrating than probably what they wanted initially
Juliamon: It's trying to be two games at the same time, and does a disservice to both by mashing them together incongruously.
emonotony: The platypus of games.
RaklarLS: it's myst and horror shooty bang
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Laserbeaks_Fury: The Middle arm and the middle notch need ot line up
BusTed:

notBrunoAgain: This is riveting gameplay
Laserbeaks_Fury: I wish that was the only puzzle
Juliamon: iirc Ben noscoped that one somehow
Juliamon: but there's a worse one later
RebekahWSD: FMV games were amazing for such a short lived feeling thing
Metric_Furlong: FMV games made a bit of a comeback in the 2010s
notBrunoAgain: People still make a surprising number of them. It's not just Sam Barlow.
Laserbeaks_Fury: 7th Guest was the mansion Adam wants
Laserbeaks_Fury: We may literally just be a white blood cell
emonotony: Or if not fine, used to it.
Juliamon: the classic "eh, it's a living"
notBrunoAgain: I mean I don't know about you but I ran out of grossed out like five minutes into this game and I, too, was totally "yeah this is normal" about it
toenolla: God that game was formative for me. I want a weird demon house where you open doors by solving word games. Sign me up.
matthaus_c: the combat here really doesn't balance risk and reward very well
emonotony: There's a very real effect where you grow used to things other people find entirely unreasonable if you don't have any useful ways to affect it, and it doesn't make you like or accept whatever is bothering you. It just means it leaves your decision making process, much like your nose leaves your field of view.
MAPBoardgames: If a junction like this only has one "correct" configuration, why does it have the ability to reconfigure?
notBrunoAgain: I am okay with a game like this having nonsensical puzzles because the point is estrangement, right, it's not supposed to make sense
matthaus_c: that's the artifice of the thing
notBrunoAgain: But this puzzle just seems obtuse and time-wasting in its specific design
Juliamon: Great question. Next question.
Mangledpixel: it is what is known as a 'lock'
korvys: But also, it can be intuited, so not actually useful as a password
niccus: to be fair, most configurations of letters aren't very good either
Caldurin: Maybe this is why their civilisation died out
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emonotony: It's a way to delay access, like a speed bump.
niccus: this culture was built off lockpicking lawyer's videos and now they think that's how all locks are supposed to work
Mangledpixel: also, I would not expect this kind of technology to be entirely logical
matthaus_c: the Drink More Glurp of Lockpicking Lawyer, I like it
notBrunoAgain: Yeah this is a problem with this game. You have no referent for anything so none of the alienating elements work
Metric_Furlong:

RaklarLS: the logic to most puzzles in this game is "look at the tiny tiny details"
emonotony: I dunno, floating through a space that makes no sense, is full of guts and horror, and having repetitive unpleasant things that happen feels familiar to me, as someone who has spent a lot of time in a hospital.
MAPBoardgames: The puzzle is locking away the key to the elevator.
RebekahWSD: Such a stinky baby!
emonotony: The layout does make more sense than the hospital though, so not quite there.
Metric_Furlong: !break
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emonotony: Nobody's tried to merge two buildings into one floor with ramps and welding.
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notBrunoAgain: I'll unclench when I damn well please, robot
matthaus_c: cycle your legs, stretch your fluids, glomp the air marshal
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Sethalidos: !findquote genitals
LRRbot: Quote #4475: "I feel like buying somebody tickets for a cruise is easier than putting your mouth on their genitals." —Ben [2017-11-08]
matthaus_c: that's quite the strong quote
emonotony: (the hospital I'm thinking about had two towers built decades apart, with a third tower built between them to reduce the amount of problems with the elevators, but the two towers had different floor heights)
GreatWahooney: thanks, disembodied voice of Cori!
Sethalidos: secret Cori cast?
grandchickenlord: @greatwahooney it’s like their still with us, sometimes I feel like I can even hear their voice
KeytarCat: Secret podcast! Podcast says: "brb"
emonotony: (that place would make for a brilliant horror game layout with the way the middle tower tries to fix problems from ages past while also being storage space for important items)
matthaus_c: that hospital sounds like even more of a strange dreamscape than most
emonotony: Now imagine being carted around that place while having recurring amnesia
matthaus_c: unpleasant, that image is unpleasant
TehAmelie: sounds a lot like Jacob's Ladder
emonotony: Honestly you grew used to that bit real fast compared to the hospital food.
matthaus_c: this is not my beautiful krispy kreme
TehAmelie: i was thinking, that movie does horror very different from the game, and maybe better?
BusTed: It is my go-to.
grandchickenlord: Just tuning in now, how’s the game? I’m a big fan of zdzslaw beksinki’s artwork.
BrindleBoar: carbonated panacea
GreatWahooney: ginger ale for all of your ginger ailments
Spluuga: mmm ginger
GreatWahooney: it kinda looks like our gun has a nose on top
RebekahWSD: Head bob always turns my motion sickness up to 100
Juliamon: grandchickenlord It's a good game, fused awkwardly with a mediocre horror shooter
BusTed: An afternoon swaddled up on the couch with a nice comfy blanket.
matthaus_c: @GreatWahooney most things here look like some kind of anatomy when you look long enough
Robot_Bones: Its nice when the head bob takes off and leaves the minion bobs to their own devices
Karvamammutti: Someone should really clean that place up. Doesn't look like a healthy work environment.
GreatWahooney: @GreatWahooney well yes, but this nose really stands out to me. I'm half expecting sniffy noises from it
matthaus_c: the nose knows
GreatWahooney: grabby!
SpacePotato01: this whole thing is a big ball contraption.
matthaus_c: we have made... a gazebo?
shurtal: We scornin' up in here?
Transmuted_Elf: like a baller
GreatWahooney: we all scorned up
MAPBoardgames: This ball be trippin
shurtal: A shot csller?
matthaus_c: being forklift certified is a power fantasy
GreatWahooney: I know absolutely nothing about driving but euro truck sim was so much fun for me
KV1NN4: Roleplaying takes all forms (who hasn't wanted to be a barbarian for 6 hours?)
SquareDotCube: And then you have the hybrid that is the serious Mechwarrior players
MAPBoardgames: What is our backpack's name?
matthaus_c: Joe
GreatWahooney: damn
SquareDotCube: How about baggage truck driver?
emonotony: Eh I don't like dating apps.
SpacePotato01: I think the US military values human life more highly.
ContingentCat: Which might be the nicest thing Amazon does to it's workers
Mr_Horrible: @MAPBoardgames I think Ben and Adam settled on "Bill" for their playthrough, but IDK if there's a canonical one
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GreatWahooney: was that a giant ambulatory tongue?
RaklarLS: bonked
Juliamon: In a way, my own inability to drive protected me from getting an Amazon warehouse job. I should be thankful for that.
matthaus_c: I think I've seen this guy in a Pete Venters illustration
Laserbeaks_Fury: Scott Packula
GreatWahooney: Backpackula _does_ seem to feast on our blood
shurtal: I always called it Jeff
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MAPBoardgames: Nydus canals?
Juliamon: no words, only atmosphere
Juliamon: "Let the art speak for itself"
notBrunoAgain: [twitches]
SquareDotCube: Editing? Pfft, what a silly concept
emonotony: Fundamental gaming: You go right on the screen or you stop.
ContingentCat:
As a words person, can confirm people don't want to hire a words person 
jdtreker: Having no idea what this game is, it gives me similar vibes to the floor from halo
Laserbeaks_Fury: loop the killer
gsyhiap: On that logic, anyone can also write code
TacitusVigil: Slippery like a banana peel
MAPBoardgames:
If you were just a better writer, you wouldn't need an editor. 
emonotony: gsyhiap Have you SEEN programmers?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Bulbus Sore
ContingentCat:
@MAPBoardgames why not just hire one person to do both jobs surely that's not a terrible idea 
gsyhiap: @emonotony yes, frequently
Mr_Horrible: gsyhiap honestly, as a software dev I would say that more people can quickly grasp that than actual prose
emonotony: Anyone can write code, and will. Document code? Well that.
Kelderan: What is this "documentation" you speak of. Never seen it before.
grandchickenlord: My favorite poke man
Mr_Horrible: Kelderan it's a bizarre page that you find buried 7 layers deep on a wiki and see that it was last edited as many years ago
Mr_Horrible: no one has found its purpose, as of yet
Kelderan: Sounds mythical
emonotony: Reading the code explains the code.
Laserbeaks_Fury: It'd be reall cool if you had 3
Transmuted_Elf: what was this book you were talking about?
GreatWahooney: one time I asked about documentation for an application I did some support for, and was told none exists because they were too far in by the time someone thought about writing one
GreatWahooney: which... kinda sucks
SquareDotCube: Documentation and sources, the bane of being able to state anything and thus it's true because it's been stated
emonotony: At this point I have multiple instances of understanding code better than the people selling it because they reused libraries they neither documented nor understood.
Juliamon: I appreciate that the monster stops after it recognizes that you're dead. A lot of games don't bother to do that.
emonotony: So I know why it doesn't work and can write a text file on a drive nobody will ever access explaining why everything is set up weird,
Juliamon: Headshot!
Kelderan: Squiby
GreatWahooney: yum
tyrsredritehand: That was a lot of squelching.
Mr_Horrible:
"That was a lot" feels like it could describe much of this game 
matthaus_c: I think this game is more an aesthetic exploration than thematic
Raiz0k: "ALIENating", huh.
Juliamon: You'll get a better idea of things shortly.
Laserbeaks_Fury: The game never really gets super explicit
tyrsredritehand: Penis monsters from the ID, Morpheous.
Mr_Horrible: the only thing I really grok, theme-wise, is potentially the alienation of bodies being viewed as, and used for, machines
Mr_Horrible: and the merits and possible outcomes of struggle against that
Juliamon: Unfortunately, every explanation comes with a dozen more questions.
Mr_Horrible: but that's at a pretty vague level
matthaus_c: the themes I've found in this game seem mostly inherited from the aesthetics it pulls from
shurtal: Moistin' Nagant
Decaped: thematically i like the ways in which you, the meat protagonist, are integrated into gameplay while also being kept separate from it
SpacePotato01: There's an official art book that explains most of the lore. It's alright but not that remarkable, aside from the art itself.
Mr_Horrible: yeah matthaus_c that's true
Laserbeaks_Fury: Mornin' Sam
Laserbeaks_Fury: Mornin' Ralph
matthaus_c: a lump of flesh queen-waving at us
Mr_Horrible: ironically, there's not a lot of meat to chew on
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: I think the main theme/question of this game is where does a thing end and a being begin. Like when does something become a body as opposed to an object, and is there really a difference.
matthaus_c:
@Mr_Horrible
I like that
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: the other main question is “how small of a color palette can we get away with in an HD game.”
Laserbeaks_Fury: Honestly, I'm not sure there's much design behind this place (from an in game perspective)
icewindbilbo: Feels like it’s asking “What if we invented the body before we invented the machine”
Decaped: @GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou yeah, GCU said what i said except better@
Mr_Horrible: @GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou yeah, that's most of what I get as well, but as matthaus mentioned, that seems part and parcel of the visual aesthetic it's inspired by
Mr_Horrible: I can't really tell if it's furthering that at all, beyond the visuals
Juliamon: It unfortunately never really gets clearer, just blurry in a different direction
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: Yeah I don’t know that there’s actual development of anything more like “what if you could walk around in an HR mural.”
ReynardWrecca: Good evening lovely people.
BusTed: another dingle dangler
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: HR Geiger, phone why are you like this
Mr_Horrible: and, to be fair, maybe that's all that was intended and all it really wants to be, which is, in itself, neat
icewindbilbo: Quite literally being chewed up by the machine
ReynardWrecca: Oh, it's those guns from Existenz.
Mr_Horrible: but it does beg the question of "why so game-y?" (as opposed to "why so gamey?" which is obvious)
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: Like is all this stuff alive, and does that question matter, and what makes you any different from the meat vending machine. But mostly I think the main question is what if a Geiger painting you could walk around in.
Laserbeaks_Fury: When we were re-hatched, we saw a lot of dead bodies strewn about, and there's no reason not to believe they may have all been us
Lysander_salamander: Hello everyone
tyrsredritehand: Where is the personal horror if i don't have two or more equally bad choices? If i have no agency except to follow the path how do I engage with the illusion of choice?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Like this could be the organic version of training an AI
Raiz0k: @Mr_Horrible Thought the same thing, and one answer is probably "why not? I'm playing with the food, why not play with the medium?".
ReynardWrecca: Hey @Lysander_salamander
Laserbeaks_Fury: Iterating forms and prolem solving
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: It might communicate better if it had more than two colors just saying
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: hehehe speaking of communicating Cameron have you heard about Nezarec’s Whisper
Mr_Horrible: @Mr_Horrible I mean, I guess that could also be it. I wouldn't say they've necessarily *succeeded* in that endeavor, in that case, so that'd be the reason why not, but I can't really knock them for taking a swing at it
tyrsredritehand: There are at least 3 colors, brown, red and greenish.
KeytarCat: I think it does a great job of talking to us
Decaped: It's also possible this is a tone piece made with consideration toward the player 360 no-scoping meat monsters while vaping.
Raiz0k: @Mr_Horrible +1, it's certainly an *attempt* at a reconstruction.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Honestly, I ran past everything, but that was from a pacifist angle. I never knew the combat was this unweildy
emonotony: Maybe the question is how much aesthetic can carry an aggressively mediocre experience.
Mr_Horrible: Decaped a question for the new generation of designer: "How high is my target audience?"
KeytarCat: @Mr_Horrible History repeats!
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: okay back to MATLAB (I’m watching on my work machine but can’t log in to type so chat is on my phone but I felt strongly about discussing Important Themes).
Laserbeaks_Fury: Ole
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: so I went on my phone to Opine
Mr_Horrible: @Mr_Horrible yeah, it's a kind of thing I feel like I want to talk about very gingerly, if that makes sense. I wouldn't want to discourage that kind of experimentation, even if my analysis of this is "needs work"
Lysander_salamander: what other color would you use for this, besides red and greenish-grey?
KeytarCat: Why so much meat?
KeytarCat: @Lysander_salamander Yellow, for sure
SquareDotCube: sleek black?
Mr_Horrible: @Lysander_salamander I think some more sleek/shiny distinct blacks, and maybe more vivid and varied reds/purples could be appropriate but still within the vibe
Laserbeaks_Fury: Are the switches designed for our fingers, or do we have fingers specifically to interface with the switches?
Juliamon: For all the gore, there's actually a distinct absence of pus and other fluids.
Lysander_salamander: I should have used the word "along with" instead of "besides"
Laserbeaks_Fury: Like there's no sense of what is designed for what, and I think that's deliberate
matthaus_c: one part of this that kind of intrigues me is that the living lumps we see look more like alien barnacles, rather than growths from within the superstructure
Decaped: @Mr_Horrible That honestly sounds like lighting/highlighting. It's possible this was a budget/tech constraint.
MAPBoardgames: Backpacula owes these critters money.
emonotony: Juliamon If things are working as they should, you wouldn't expect pus nor wasted fluids
Juliamon: emonotony Things clearly aren't, though.
trainpants: :c
Mangledpixel: maybe we're an infection, the hostile things are antibodies?
Mr_Horrible: @Mr_Horrible hmm, that's fair, there's probably other factors at play there
PrancerInflatableReindeer: but everything seems to be specifically designed so you can operate it - what are you if not supposed to be there?
Lysander_salamander: Are they parasites perhaps? Remnants of an invading force which caused ruin?
GreatWahooney: weren't we literally birthed by this facility? I would assume we're meant to operate things.
Raiz0k: @Mr_Horrible Yeah, there's a fine line the creator has to walk to prevent a "disconnect".
Mr_Horrible: ah, it was a professor Layton game the whole time
Lysander_salamander: oh no a puzzle
Azralorne: Wha...what happened to faces?
Lysander_salamander: the big creature squelching out, "ah, that reminds me of a puzzle..."
NorthstarTex: the excess fleshy bits seem concerning to say the least
KeytarCat: Wait, are we fighting cancer?
SpacePotato01: Is it ok to post spoilers in the chat?
Mangledpixel: so we're a plumber?
kaliuniqueusernamesaredum: the red flesh seems cancerous
Quentastic: I think I would say 'process' more than 'agency'
BrindleBoar: Lysander_salamander "I haaf twelf matchsteek"
MAPBoardgames: Maybe they're on strike and you're a Scab? (pun intended)
trainpants: we're inside joey chestnut
emonotony: Are we Mario, but realistic?
Raiz0k:
@MAPBoardgames 
Raiz0k: @emonotony What, like the 90's movie?
Mangledpixel: emonotony let's-a no!
Juliamon: It *was* an orifice
Mysticman89: now its a bigger orifice
Invitare: "Stop that"
Coloneljesus: dog!
SnackPak_:

Mr_Horrible: like, yeah, this lad seems he grew over top of an old mechanism
Juliamon: trio trio trio
NorthstarTex: get the pokeballs
Kelderan: Got a case of the diglets. Shame.
Lysander_salamander: Is your passenger also an invasive species?
Mangledpixel: diglet dig diglet dig
Lysander_salamander: ew
emonotony: Counterpoint: The body has a way of destroying immune cells that would attack itself
GreatWahooney:
diglet used to be my second favorite pokemon 
KeytarCat: F you all to heck!
Mr_Horrible: Backpackula no!
Mr_Horrible: we trusted you
emonotony: We could be in the thymus
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: Maybe this is all the extremely gritty (or squishy) reboot of Osmosis Jones.
Mysticman89: the gender of the child is...red fungus
Laserbeaks_Fury: I will love him and squeeze him and call him George
kaliuniqueusernamesaredum: *operator -> pc
SnackPak_:

Mr_Horrible: "yes"
Kelderan: Technically. Yes XD
GreatWahooney: ok, how do I clip that
BusTed: "You know what? That one's on me."
NorthstarTex: flip it turnways right?
Mr_Horrible: this is like the arcade console you find in Frantic Factory in DK64
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: the word “gravid” comes to mind and I regret it
emonotony: The thymus produces vastly more immune cells than it releases because it tries to destroy any immune cells that would attack the body's own tissues
MAPBoardgames: Reload?
TehAmelie: a rocher gun woudl be gerat
TehAmelie: or great
Raiz0k: It certainly has a "beefy" quality about it.
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: Maybe it is about a cancer? The machines have the red flesh inside them but it’s contained and shaped. Then there’s all this stuff spilling out from the walls and growing over stuff, like it’s escaping.
MAPBoardgames: Shortgun confirmed
Mysticman89: the french rocket launcher
Kelderan: Blap
Invitare: it was Episode 3, I think
TheMerricat: The author recanted that actually just this week
Raiz0k: 11th Hour power is I believe the TV Tropes name.
SquareDotCube: just send the man away
maestrith: wow, everything in this game makes me a bit queezy....
offbeatwitch: it was a cool concept anyway
Invitare: no, he said he regretted leaking it
ashteranic: There's been multiple different iterations of the plot in valve's history, according to other employees.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Do you think Mass Effect 4 will circle back on that Dark Energy plot it teased?
tyrsredritehand: Whelp
offbeatwitch: sir? sir
Lysander_salamander: dang it
GhostValv:

Kelderan: Twofer!
Mr_Horrible: valuetown
Mangledpixel: when my friends played the Halo 2 coop (a billion years ago) they got stuck with a bad checkpoint with the following events: Cortana says "Look out, that Captain's got a Brute Shot!" *blam*, player death. That line became a meme in our friend group for a long time after that.
Mr_Horrible: if this is "woods" then we're missing the forest for the spleens
GreatWahooney: I'll catch the rest on the vod. Good night everyone!
TehAmelie: the thing where the mass relays are actually aging all the stars at an incredible rate that Tali found out and then everyone just forgot it? it might get awkward
Mr_Horrible: @Mangledpixel that, to me, just immediately calls to mind the "Look out, it's throwing giant chunks of rock at us!" from Ben and Adam's playthrough of Dead Space 3
Mr_Horrible: A+ Gekyouryuu
emonotony: TehAmelie iirc less the relays, more the eezo production
Mangledpixel: Mr_Horrible I'm afraid I haven't seen that one, but it sounds like similar energy, yes
emonotony: Or rather refinement/use
Mangledpixel: emonotony ah yes, the 'warp drive is killing subspace' plot
GhostValv: D:
Mr_Horrible: wait have we already fought a brain-tank in this too?
Invitare: you need more legs to strafe faster
SquareDotCube: literally fight the level
Mr_Horrible: I feel like you need more structure to effectively communicate that, tho, other than just "combat feels clunky and bad"
Mr_Horrible: looking at, like, the Pathologics as an example
Master_Gunner: combat in this game feels more like an obligation than a core mechanic.
Mr_Horrible: Pathoslogic?
on_and_awful: Hot Dog Roulette is the name of my David Bowie cover band.
DeChunkandFriends: I just got in, is the Webcam not working?
Spluuga: point and click mode
KeytarCat: !camera
LRRbot: The camera is off to help Cameron and Cori avoid motion sickness.
DeChunkandFriends: Thank you!
KeytarCat:

emonotony: Mangledpixel Yeah the og ME plot was "warp drive is killing subspace" + "warp drive gives superpowers" + "the relays are a way to keep people from inventing more destructive warp drives since they're much easier"
Spluuga: does not having a camera feel like it's helping the motion sickness?
Mysticman89: just boot the lil chimkens
Raiz0k: Yeah, could just kick them.
Tempest2097: Sometimes you gotta fight the lights
emonotony: This is p great ngl
Mysticman89: now you've got mood light9ing
Mysticman89: and the mood is darkness
Spluuga: ahh that makes sense.
emonotony:

Tempest2097: Embracing the darkness is a good choice for eye health sometimes
Tempest2097: I've had random light sensitivity occasionally and like, when you start to feel it hurting it's gotta go.
Juliamon: Headless chickens still got hands
Spluuga: it's just good to know how to avoid motion sickness in games.. I get squeemish with motion blur or too sharp objects with low fow
Tempest2097: Yeah motion blur should never have existed at all
Tempest2097: It is a fuckin awful graphical invention
Juliamon: (it's partially you)
kaliuniqueusernamesaredum: are you deboning it??
BusTed: diggly dee diggly dee
Juliamon: Weird how its back looks like our health/ammo pod
DeChunkandFriends: We all know how "just following orders" goes
CaptainSpam: Ah, cripes. Ya got ringwraiths there, eh?
matthaus_c: "Why is this a video game" must have been a hell of a question to answer during development
Tempest2097: Listen, this game has an Aesthetic and it goes for it
Tempest2097: And I appreciate that
Spluuga: and it's good to know these issues and how to avoid them. especially as it is supposed to be kinda my job xD
CaptainSpam: I'll grant there's Aesthetic™ going on here, but...
BusTed:

Tempest2097: So much meat
Tempest2097: So so much meat
WiJohn: Watch out people, she's gaming!
Tempest2097: Yeah a map would've been good
Tempest2097: Ohai
Laserbeaks_Fury: The En-Trails
Quentastic: Go through the new blood path?
matthaus_c: not being able to construct a mental map is probably part of engaging with the aesthetics
hackingducks: yeah but how do you do a diagetic map in this game?
Raiz0k:
@Laserbeaks_Fury 
hackingducks: dead space was at least a space ship
wildpeaks: oh neat, Scorn
Tempest2097: That is a super cool idea
hackingducks: yeah that is super neat
matthaus_c:
a stone's throw away from Liliana 
Laserbeaks_Fury: Can you go out on the bottom floor
Mysticman89: I just recently saw the room. It did not have cool ideas.
Quentastic: We just opened a new part of the 'mother' thing right?
wildpeaks: we're here to chew bubblegum and reload weird shotguns
Laserbeaks_Fury: "I know what you're asking yourself: 'Did they fire 10 enameled tooth pellets, or only 9...'"
wildpeaks: and puzzles, always chew the puzzles
Tempest2097: Like, the weapon aesthetics in this game are 10/10 for me
Tempest2097: They're SO cool
wildpeaks: you'd love the artbook for this game too
Tempest2097: I probably would
Tempest2097: Body Horror is my favorite horror
Laserbeaks_Fury: Elvator go down the hole
wildpeaks: oh then you're in for a treat
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Tempest2097: Sound design isn't bad either
Tempest2097: Not so sure I'd be into the puzzle mechanics but you can't have everything
wildpeaks: we gaming now
Mysticman89: cori is very much a gamer
GhostValv:

wildpeaks: cheevo unlocked: gamin
Mr_Horrible: uhhhhhh
SnackPak_:

Tempest2097: The meatbeast has awoken
Mr_Horrible: "I never renewed my passport, I'm not cleared for this!"
Quentastic: Is the mother still on us?
wildpeaks: we scorning now
BrindleBoar: F
Tempest2097: I think.... something went wrong
Mysticman89: scorn 3 deal with the secret miltary base on mars
Coloneljesus: something happened for sure
Coloneljesus: no clue what
wildpeaks: we might be late for school
matthaus_c: now leaving Purgatorio
Tempest2097: I mean if they made a Doom-alike with this aesthetic I would 100% buy it
wildpeaks: seems like a happy place
korvys: That looks like a vertibre
SquareDotCube: Scorn 2: Journey Into the Butt-Shaped Moon
wildpeaks: well this seems normal
matthaus_c: become as backpack
pn55: Well, I think WE went up at the expense of our giant, still attached friend.
TacitusVigil: Dream better
wildpeaks: weeeeee
Spluuga: it's just extra snacks
Master_Gunner: monorail!
Gekyouryuu: I've not seen much of this game. did we at one point look mostly human?
GhostValv: mr. freeman~
Juliamon: At no point did we look "human" but we were humanoid
wildpeaks: we're late for our shift
matthaus_c: these finger controls -must- be designed to be at least slightly uncomfortable
Gekyouryuu: are we gonna see Barney locked out of a door?
wildpeaks: inb4 resonance cascade
SquareDotCube: oh wait, this is the bad part of Half-Life
Mr_Horrible: they're waiting for you, Gordon... in the test chamberrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
wildpeaks: rrrrrr
Tempest2097: OH
matthaus_c: now entering Paradiso
Tempest2097: That is a fortress
wildpeaks: well, on that topic, I'll have a question about first person camera versus 3rd person when we're done with the game
TehAmelie: can we prove G-man has consciousness? how does he react to a mirror?
Spluuga: at least we didn't get a turret shooter section..
wildpeaks: or rocket launcher against helicopters
Tempest2097: Well at least this place appears to be pleasantly made of stone
GhostValv: mondays amirite
matthaus_c: look at all that phallus
Juliamon: Remember when things were only remotely dong-shaped?
wildpeaks: gravity won
Tempest2097: OH my
GhostValv: goals tbh
Juliamon: Now they're straight-up dogs.
MAPBoardgames: Dong!
Juliamon: *dongs
wildpeaks: oh honey, happy to see us I see
matthaus_c: what a shower
TehAmelie: just picturing G-man pawing at the strange G-man in the mirror like a cat
gsyhiap: Oh my!
Mysticman89: time to lock horns
Gekyouryuu: "I have ridden the mighty moon worm!" "good for him. :)"
Tempest2097: It got there
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: woah.
wildpeaks: well this looks safe
Tempest2097: Okay this isn't a fortress, this is a fucking alien bachelor pad
on_and_awful: shawty got LOW
wildpeaks: alien thicc
BusTed: 🤔
matthaus_c: fucking love this part
Coloneljesus: this game just got better
GhostValv:

NorthstarTex: uh
gsyhiap: 🍆
matthaus_c: to the windoooow, to the wall
Gekyouryuu: this doorway clearly leads to a bakery. it's all caked up
Tempest2097: Definitely alien bachelor pad.
Mr_Horrible: I shouldn't be surprised that the statues are caked up
DrSnap23: this place does suck, huh
wildpeaks: maybe they come with joysticks
Mr_Horrible: but I'm a little surprised the statues are caked up
Dreamlettuce:

matthaus_c: surgery is the new sex I guess
TehAmelie: i so want a tourism mod for this game. or a constantly giggling archeologist mod
pn55: It's a tickle machine!
Juliamon: This section is probably the game's peak
KV1NN4: valued customers... please stop, this is a Wendy's
Tempest2097: Like if I showed up to a lady's apartment and it looked like this I would know I was in for a TIME
Tempest2097: That's a fuckin party
Tempest2097: We're getting a little Hellraiser up in here
matthaus_c: see, Giger portraying sex makes me go "ew", these portrayals of sex make me go "nice"
wildpeaks: and this kids is how you end up with tentacles in your brain
Mr_Horrible: normally with concepts of a hive mind they don't, like, just squish them in there
emonotony: Tempest2097 I'd call them a nerd
TehAmelie: that's a fancy mind flayer
Tempest2097: @emonotony I am not seeing a problem with that.
matthaus_c: this does have quite the "I have such sights to show you" energy
Mr_Horrible: we've got a half-thing of capri sun
Tempest2097: This is glorious and I am glad to see it
Juliamon: Oh boy it's juice time
PhillKaiba: hey all
Tempest2097: I am prepared for the juicing
Juliamon: Hello PhillKaiba welcome to *this*
wildpeaks: we juicing now
BrindleBoar: juicero time
matthaus_c: the juice was a key!
Tempest2097: Leggy
ratstronomer: Fruit juice opens doors and opportunities
Mr_Horrible: oh this must've been a meat market
Mr_Horrible: like every other market on this planet
SpoonfullOfSugar: well where do you store your limbs?
wildpeaks: don't even worry about it
Tempest2097: Aw, lookit the little due
Coloneljesus: it me
TehAmelie: how did MOdok get here
Juliamon: Fill'er up
Mr_Horrible: "So hey have you ever seen 'The Brood'?"
Pheonix888: Quaid start the reactor
wildpeaks: we will finish this game right ? it's not long
ThirdGames: Kraaaang~
Mashamino: havin' a weird one
Tempest2097: Aw look it's dreaming
DrSnap23: those gender reveal parties are getting out of hand
wildpeaks: oh dear
Juliamon: Why'd you go and do that
korvys: Oh hey, it's Krang
Coloneljesus: build your baby
wildpeaks: science'd
KV1NN4: As a second baby that made it, yes, I suppose that is true
wildpeaks: oh good, let's fill the baby hole
Juliamon: juice! juice! juice!
GhostValv: rawberry
wildpeaks: welp gues we have a babby now
Mysticman89: baby sure takes a lot of your fov
Pheonix888: teeth
emonotony: This would be trying too hard for a gender reveal party organized by the parents, and not going hard enough for a gender reveal party organized by the person themselves. Eh.
CaptainSpam: Second baby is a huge responsibility, and a visual obstruction.
wildpeaks: sir, I'd like a refund on this babby
Quentastic: That was a nice view
DrSnap23: yeet! that! baby!!
GhostValv: kobe the baby?
wildpeaks: what is the yeetability factor of babby
Dreamlettuce:
Baby is up and.... 
matthaus_c: Universal Serial Baby
wildpeaks: "indiana jones and the creepy baby"
Juliamon: yeah they're not finishing this today
Pheonix888: can the babymonculous stqand on the platform? if it had legs...
wildpeaks: ow
SpacePotato01: hammer baby out of kinder egg
Mr_Horrible: welp
Mashamino: rearrange the baby for feng shui
BusTed: oh.
Pheonix888: ooooo
Mr_Horrible: WELP
Spluuga: huh
BrindleBoar:

GhostValv: D:
SpacePotato01: get baby
Boon_33: did she... punch the baby?
lackingsanity: gross
matthaus_c: immortan joe voice "mediocre!"
CaptainSpam: Well. Live and learn.
wildpeaks: motherhood is hard, ok ?
korvys: Biomechanics is probably more *shop* than biology
Mr_Horrible:
oh that's some upsetting wording 
Juliamon: We have freed the baby from its tough husk
emonotony: So this is why you need parenting classes.
jessicaengle:

Spluuga: so it was a juicer all along?
wildpeaks: it's juicing time
korvys: Into the juicer
GhostValv: D:
MAPBoardgames: Baby juice!
Mashamino: oh...
Pheonix888: double ooooo
wildpeaks: freshly sueezed
KV1NN4: shuck the bloodtato
Dreamlettuce: Baby go down da hole.
korvys: Fresh squeezed
wildpeaks: *squeezed
ratstronomer: puree
TehAmelie: don't juice your babies
Lysander_salamander: I'm sure there's a purpose
ThirdGames: Baby Juice, It's the Quenchiest!
gsyhiap: Freshly squeezed
emonotony: Juicero Babies was a bad indiegogo campaign
Juliamon: Fill the lady with baby juice... no, not like *that*
BusTed: That's a lot of pulp.
wildpeaks: part of a healthy breakfast
Lysander_salamander: The miracle of life
TehAmelie: and that's how babies are made (not)
iDangero: it's the circe of life
ogundiety: I want my baby back baby back..
matthaus_c: just like Shinji in the entry plug
Mashamino: recycled babies
Mr_Horrible: maybe *that's* the purpose - the entire game is just a vehicle for dark humor
wildpeaks: is the baby juice only, or does it have pulp too ?
KV1NN4: XD
Gekyouryuu: Ba~by~ can~ do doo do doo doo doo~?
Decaped: @Mr_Horrible humor is just a reaction to pain/fright.
GhostValv: contractor already got paid.
RonaldMcDownload: baby juice tastes sweeter after it struggles
Mashamino: we must... activate the baby?
Mr_Horrible: clearly the guy imbues a certain jene se quois
Lysander_salamander: it does seem convoluted
wildpeaks: we might be in trouble
korvys: Oh hey, it's Krang
Quentastic: It saw what you did!
Juliamon: Welcome to the boss fight
Gekyouryuu: gesundheit
grometty: Oh no, a boss baby, the worst kind
wildpeaks: gesundheit
GhostValv: salud
Lysander_salamander: Nice that it starts you off with an injury you can't avoid
matthaus_c: slenade gruncher!
Mashamino:

ogundiety: I'm trying to come up with full metal joke about the chimera, but..
Mr_Horrible: getting real boss baby vibes here
Bionull: Why is it always boss fight? Why never boss friend?
wildpeaks: existenz gun
BalthusHomewood: @wildpeaks with optional attachments!
wildpeaks: ow, right in the glowy bits
emonotony: Bionull bosses aren't your friends, you're employed because it brings a profit
emonotony: In baby juice, presumably
TehAmelie: looked like it did something
Bionull: @emonotony Even on silly tie Tuesday?
Mashamino: look, we just want the baby slurry
emonotony: Bionull Oh OSHA will have a problem with you wearing a tie and operating the baby juicer
BalthusHomewood: @mashamino more like... Small Man slurry?
Mashamino: 6 of one, half a dozen of the other
Mr_Horrible: I will give the game credit that it treats the meat cages as actual objects and not just box colliders
BalthusHomewood: "Mom said it was my turn in the meat mech!"
Dreamlettuce: Haha. Baby fall down.
Mashamino: baby battery depleted
Gekyouryuu: can we steal his gun?
Mr_Horrible: squeesh
BalthusHomewood: D-fetus-ed
MAPBoardgames: We megaman now!
Mr_Horrible:
bamboozled! 
BalthusHomewood: Think Again l!
wildpeaks: ow
mitomanox: !next
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Quentastic: Yes
korvys: Punching him right in the baby
Mr_Horrible: gun *AND* baby? sweet deal
TehAmelie: is this a Stranding type game?
MAPBoardgames: Open your mind....
Gekyouryuu: can we get ammo from its back?
Invitare: cue Lion King soundtrack
s1ck1y:
what a bunch of COOL gamers 
SnackPak_: I use tongs
HyruleGirl9: if you cant squeeze your babies fresh, store bought is fine
wildpeaks: I love that the animation for both baby juince animations are different
Coloneljesus: does it need to read the baby's QR code or it won't juice?
TehAmelie: we gotta collect all the beanie babies?
Juliamon: Now you're using it forever
BalthusHomewood: Nice to know that even in this Geigerian nightmare, there's still some perceived need for weapons that go "boom"
korvys: Oh, your irritable backpack syndrome is acting up
Mr_Horrible: Backpackula you're really testing our patience
Mr_Horrible: the Big Daddy?
Mashamino: that does tend to work
Lysander_salamander: oh good
wildpeaks: oh good, third baby will surely end up better than others
korvys: Whenever god closes a door, he opens a window (and you can fire a grenade through it)
Lysander_salamander: weee
emonotony: Grenades open many doors
grometty: OH NO BOSS BABY 2
matthaus_c: this is just like Godskin Duo
BalthusHomewood: Shoot it in it's backpack when it reloads
gsyhiap: Rule of three strikes again
Mashamino: ohhh
BalthusHomewood: Baby Frappe Comedy?
Dreamlettuce: This baby has object permanence, I call shenanigans.
wildpeaks: this is a weird Amnesia Rebirth mod
Tempest2097: This gun DOES suck
matthaus_c: it's our only gun now
Mashamino: now to fire in his window to open his door
Tempest2097: This gun sucks so bad you can get the user to hurt themselves with it
matthaus_c: this baby sucks!
Juliamon: The corpse has more grenade-fruit
Invitare: these are terrible bioengineeried super soldiers
Mashamino:

SnackPak_: so rude
Mr_Horrible: game please
They_Are_Alyx:

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matthaus_c: once more with feeling
korvys: The combat in this game really is the weakpoint
Mr_Horrible: although I guess that makes sense, if you just explode all their ammunition while it's still adjacent too their spine
BalthusHomewood: @invitare I think they've been sitting there for a long time?
gsyhiap: Well that's a frustrating mechanic
matthaus_c: his older brother at least didn't get hurt by his own grenades
korvys: Going up like an autoloader turrent
BalthusHomewood: D-fetus-ed PT 2
Manae: He shoulda had some CASE installed
korvys: post-combat babies are only half-full of juice
GhostValv: in the arms~~ of an angel~~~
korvys: I guess
BrindleBoar: don't breathe this
BalthusHomewood: That daily grind, amirite?
gsyhiap: I thought that was going to be Don't Worry Be Happy for a second there
MAPBoardgames: Time to get all hopped up on babyjuice
Earthenone: !time
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matthaus_c: nice
gsyhiap: nice
Mr_Horrible: "We said no pre-gaming"
BalthusHomewood: Calcified tentacles too, no fun
korvys: No you didn't?
Juliamon: That was the wrong body
korvys: You did
MAPBoardgames: Do you have hands?
BrindleBoar: your hand is too tentacl-y
wildpeaks: "hands"
Mashamino: ohhh
emonotony: Oh you need to get hands
Mr_Horrible: "These look like big... strong... hands, don't they?"
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: how goes The Meat
emonotony: Got to be hands around here somewhere
gsyhiap: That would be handy
Spluuga: need new interface device
Ace__of__Hearts: I don't remember Xenophage being made of meat but maybe it's a new ornament
emonotony: (I'm 90% the save isn't bricked.)
Juliamon: (it's not)
Mr_Horrible: all we know is *phoonk*
Saintnex: Yea, based on the Lets Nope playthrough, very close to the end and it is not bricked
korvys: Windows are just big locks, and grenades are the key
korvys: Get flensed, idiot
wildpeaks: ow, that part
Mashamino: yay?
wildpeaks: better hurry
Mr_Horrible: seems like it gave our hand back?
korvys: timed
wildpeaks: ^
Gekyouryuu: ooooh, you have a time limit, gotcha
gsyhiap: Bad backpackula!
Mashamino: that blood may have been important
Juliamon: (ignore this working)
BalthusHomewood: We can't open doors
GapFiller: !next
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Juliamon: Oh good, you found it faster than the Nope Bois
Mr_Horrible: I like the idea that there's machine expressly for stabbing your own arm
Mashamino:

Mr_Horrible: love getting the extra point for the Fuck Temple Meat-Sacs
Lysander_salamander: weeeeee
Quentastic: Shouldn't you go back to the other room to get put the juse in to the pregnant lady first
Mr_Horrible: they're the favorites in the league this season
matthaus_c: being banned from the orgy probably has less to do with our tentacles, and more with how we just keep exploding their doors
Gekyouryuu: still gotta go back and feed the lady, too
on_and_awful: being flensed does seem like a clunky flesh exploit.
wildpeaks: talking of last doors, The Last Door would be a great game for talking sim
MAPBoardgames: Now that you have a backpack with arms, you don't need hands anymore.
Saintnex: ngl, this whole section just feels a bit too long
NorthstarTex: one more hand crush, as a treat
emonotony: There's definitely not a stream left in the game. But probably more than half an hour for discussing it?
Juliamon: Annoyingly, there's only like ~30 minutes left of gameplay?
wildpeaks: ^
gsyhiap: That's just obnoxious
gualdhar: but darkness is our friend
GhostValv: oh hi
matthaus_c: they have bodies again!
Tempest2097: Ohai
wildpeaks: gasp
gsyhiap: Oh hey!
Mr_Horrible: hey, now *there's* meat I recognize
TehAmelie: gasp!
ratstronomer: Whoa!
ratstronomer: Jump scare
matthaus_c: an 'explanation' is... ambitious, to ask for
wildpeaks: more contextt, sure, explanation, well...
NorthstarTex: a fleshy escape room
Mr_Horrible: it is a game that threatens to have more under the surface at many points
matthaus_c: the devs probably struggled a lot with trying to make this feel like a game and that it should be in this medium
korvys: Alien, you might say
lackingsanity: There's a very cool environment to move through and then not a whole lot else
emonotony: "why was this a game?" "it wouldn't sell in any other medium"
Quentastic: @matthaus_c I don't think this world work as a film though
Mr_Horrible: it is definitely the most well-realized version of this vibe I've ever seen
Juliamon: I highly recommend finishing it offscreen and giving us your thoughts next week, rather than booking a whole episode
MAPBoardgames: Didn't you?
Mr_Horrible: and was mad at us for killing Jesus
wildpeaks: next week could start a new game too
matthaus_c: @Quentastic a film isn't necessarily what I'm getting at. a haunted house, like Cori said, is a whole different medium that feels a lot more like what this is
ogundiety: The combat is just absurdly awful
wildpeaks: Experience Gun
Mr_Horrible: yeah, if that's a theme then you have to give the player the ability to *actualize* on that
Quentastic: @Quentastic Your own body being like the rest of the aesthetic seems important though
Juliamon: "combat should be avoided" does not mesh well with "here is a boss that requires combat"
ogundiety: Combat should be avoided works better if you can avoid the combat
Saintnex: Unfortunately a lot of the gameplay aspects feel a bit forced... I wonder if it would be a better as an interative game like Gone Home
BrindleBoar: I think the combat is... awful on purpose, but I can't back that up with anything
Lysander_salamander: have a good evening!
Mr_Horrible: it makes me wonder if the random mobs were added so that the scripted fight they had planned didn't feel as jarring?
Quentastic: Like, you have a purpose you instinctively execute but don't understand
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matthaus_c: @Quentastic that's a good point! I guess what I'm trying to grapple with is how the effort to give it more "Gameplay" gets in the way of things
wildpeaks: is johnny late for his shift ?
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Quentastic: @Quentastic I agree with that
GhostValv: o7
Mr_Horrible: @Quentastic that makes me wonder if there's actually a commentary somewhere in here on being a video game character entirely, since that kinda neatly describes a lot of games
GCU_OfCourseIStillLoveYou: thanks for stream!
Tempest2097: o7
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korvys: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam play horror games until they find the key that will bring them true happiness. Game: The Callisto Protocol) at Tue 05:00 PM PST (27m from now).
ThirdGames: Which cord? Dis cord
Mr_Horrible: truly an apocalyptic world
matthaus_c: our MTG hot pockets
Lysander_salamander: thanks for playing, and the commentary!
Nigouki: Thanks for the stream!
matthaus_c: take care y'all!
Quentastic: @Quentastic It seemed to have a better balance towards the start as well
Juliamon: Everyone, don't forget to watch the new crapshot! It's worth your while.
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