RockPusher: !quote paul
LRRbot: Quote #1815: "Hello, ladies... Have you seen my BOOMERANG somewhere around here?" —Paul [2016-02-15]
beowuuf: title chage, title change
LoadingReadyRun:
I guess "Software and Game Development" is the closest category for this
Juliamon: It is software, I guess
beowuuf:
i hope it answers the real technical question: 'how can this demonstration be turned in to an excuse to pay deep rock galactic' 
rubikdarkwill: Well It's not hardware so...
beowuuf: *play
accountmadeforants:
Science & Technology could also sorta work 
accountmadeforants: Twitch really needs a "Cool Technology!" category
NotCainNorAbel: they need a 'this is paul' category
SnackPak_: or maybe a nifty software catagory
LoadingReadyRun: Maybe a Show and tell category?
Pal_Friendpatine: !next
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accountmadeforants: There's currently one person streaming under the "PAUL" tag. And their other tags are "CHAD" and "GIGACHAD". They're playing Marbles On Stream.
NotCainNorAbel: I have questions I do not want the answers to
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Manae: !next
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Verrain2: Bonus Paul! What more could you want?
Mischievous_Catgeist: hiya everyone
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Creideiki_SE: @Verrain2 Well, I also have a cat.
Creideiki_SE: @Verrain2 So if someone doesn't have a cat...
Verrain2: Touche!
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Mangledpixel: can you really be truely prepared for a LRRTech stream?
TemporallyAwry: !soon
beowuuf: hey paul!
GhostValv:

SnackPak_: ooo
Aenir798: WOOOOO
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MrBenn6: Hello
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: partay time
RockPusher: hahahah
emberBecky: \o/
Verrain2: Waiting!
LordZarano: 🤘
epsilon_vee: wait for it
Styxseus:

GhostValv: wowie
richard_ermen: xD
richard_ermen: NOICE
theawesomeonev2:

Verrain2: Worth it!
beowuuf:
a u 
RockPusher: The demo gods are operating as usual today
beowuuf:

richard_ermen: Totally worth it.
Davlenagain: paul playign with tech....did he get christmas early?
ElementalAlchemist: LRRTech: Is it LRRTech if we don't encounter any LRRTechnicalDifficulties?
NullValid: LRRTech is the best stream series for the intro alone.
RockPusher:
Nifty Technology 
Mangledpixel: how the Loading Ready Sausage is made
rubikdarkwill: 58 months since the last LRRTech stream
Aenir798: Oh, I read it as "crop mower" and was very confused.
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RockPusher: Something that seems such basic functionality it's weird it isn't part of the main program — thus is much of tech
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DEATHlikescats: I’m always interested in how you make this all work
DEATHlikescats: Cus it’s not easy
Mangledpixel: you mean not every stream needs a 'Urborg is in play' overlay?!
DEATHlikescats: The overlays and card reader and on the fly adjustments are so dang cool
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: nah, the urborg lives with the bug and the sub overlay on every stream
rubikdarkwill: Ashton has similar ideas and challenges with the software behind DB
DEATHlikescats: So you basically built a node based game engine, but instead of for games, it’s for streaming broadcasts
Glodenox: Oh hi, an unexpected tech stream
RockPusher: It really should be - it's such an obvious requirement for broadcast
DEATHlikescats: LRRobs
TemporallyAwry: @DEATHlikescats LRRoboros?
jonnyfever262: Those wire coming out of the headset are giving me big Batty from Ferngully vibes.
DEATHlikescats: @temporallyawry ooh heck yes
RockPusher: sockets via the web that we deliver via sockets via the os
Aenir798: FORTRAN?
RockPusher: we heard you like sockets so we put sockets into your sockets so you can socket while you socket
RockPusher:

Verrain2: I am pretending that Paul is a wizard and all the acronyms are secret spell words.
Tehbeard: @Verrain2 That is programming in a nutshell.
rubikdarkwill: 2018-06-28
ElementalAlchemist: There are a few things you get from having a layer (websockets) on normal sockets that are nice for some situations
DEATHlikescats: Pre panda was a decade ago
RockPusher:
The readme on the xsplit one should be updated to reflect the fact that the OBS one exists now 
accountmadeforants: I have built many a shim to expose parts of a library/system through WebSockets, they're just very convenient for other people to use.
Verrain2: Is there a banana xsplit?
SquidVorb: The Ian headphones are still alive??
Nuurgle: The Ian headphones will outlive us all
Mangledpixel: also worth mentioning that XSplit was paid while OBS is free
ElementalAlchemist: oh great
ElementalAlchemist: why can no one anywhere ever agree on a set of coordinates
Mangledpixel: oh I hate that
RockPusher: Step 1: Agree on an origin. … and we've already failed
ElementalAlchemist: That... could be convenient for somethings but also really annoying for other stuff
ElementalAlchemist:
yeah, yeah 
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SquidVorb: OBSception
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WrightJustice: infinity cam!
ElementalAlchemist: but the Infinipaul
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You're all just proving my point 
ElementalAlchemist: This is ridiculous
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Aenir798: oh that's neat
accountmadeforants: @ElementalAlchemist My favourite thing is finding out what the "normalize" function for coordinates does *this time*.
fastlane250: chillpo
RockPusher: Sneaky-Beej is Dangerous Beej
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Aenir798: can you move the visible frame with the crop mover?
Aenir798: It's very nifty that it follows.
usmu1976: good morning, afternoon or evening
Glodenox: I see it also warns once you start stretching the image
Raincoast_Bear: Paul's Tech Tips with Paul.
accountmadeforants: Now I understand why other streamers seem to have so much trouble moving anything around in a scene. Wild that this doesn't exist in OBS itself.
LordZarano: Enhance!
TheMerricat: Viewports
Aenir798: bigger. BIGGER!
RockPusher:
The Zoomies! 
TheMerricat: Enhance!
RockPusher: Jommetry
Mangledpixel:
so no affine transformations, then? 
Glodenox: It's weird how fast I forgot about those after uni
RockPusher:
Now just to abstract everything so that we're ready for non-Euclidian broadcasting 
Mangledpixel: can you also scale from the centre of the crop?
shendaras: Do you handle rotations?
Mangledpixel: or just from the centre of the content?
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RockPusher: I take it it doesn't auto-letterbox then
accountmadeforants: Even Word lets you do that when cropping an image. It's a very useful way to do crops.
RockPusher: Adequacy!
Lusunati: Bodge it!
Mangledpixel: eh, we've all written hacky code
ElementalAlchemist: I saw the repository for this, but this explanation was neat
badpandabear: hacky code is better than elegant code that never gets written due to lack of time
RockPusher:
It works, which already makes it better than a good proportion of code ever written 
Der_Hubi: Were other users besides yourself always a consideration?
lirazel64: @mangledpixel I've written no code at all...
tautologico42: is this an OBS plugin?
usmu1976: @Mangledpixel I did a mangled bit of basic about 30 years ago. Not much since, but there you go.
RockPusher: "What the heck was the person who wrote this thinking‽" *checks git blame* "Oh… past-me wrote this."
DaCardCzar: Thats a pretty good feature
Mangledpixel: does the tool show all objects from all scenes, then?
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tautologico42: would the native OBS implementation have to be written in C/C++?
ElementalAlchemist: Yes, OBS is a C and C++ program
accountmadeforants: I really appreciate the little example gifs/videos, by the way
Mangledpixel: the chromeless chrome
tautologico42: @ElementalAlchemist libobs seems to be mostly C
SquidVorb: Chromium
tautologico42: but the UI is C++
ElementalAlchemist: ah
ElementalAlchemist: that makes sense
accountmadeforants: Seems the base library (libobs) is C, while some of the graphics/OS-related things (D3D, WinRT) and the UI are C++, yea..
accountmadeforants: Oooooo
ElementalAlchemist: I think you're limited by the OS cursor selection there
Mangledpixel: they only go at 45° angles
accountmadeforants:
Or you could go the real modern web design way and override the cursor with your own custom thingamabob (and invariably breaking a bunch of other things in the process) 
RockPusher:
Nitty- 
Boopity: This open-source thing sure sounds rad
sfn____: heck yeah OS
ElementalAlchemist: it's pretty cool
wolgo: You want us to review your code?
Glodenox: It was a tech stream that introduced it to me
SquidVorb: I wish I could code, too bad my brain is mush
RockPusher: Notably relied on browser addons that the browser makers are trying to kill
accountmadeforants:
You don't typically want to be treating the front-end as an API, yeah 
SquidVorb: IRC?
Glodenox: IRC over WebSocket, sort of
tautologico42: isn't the chat just IRC?
LordZarano: I still use Significantly Less Nifty Chat for inline images in twitch chat
Amras0x00: the word you're looking for is 'feature parity'
Mangledpixel: tautologico42 no, it used to have a IRC mirror, years ago, but no longer
Juliamon: It's originally IRC-based, but it's complicated and messy now
offbeatwitch: the irc mirror still works
offbeatwitch: i just sent these messages via irc
RockPusher:
Juliamon I mean, I don't think I would ever have called it uncomplicated and clean 
accountmadeforants: I'd recommend opening up some issues on your own repo, could make things more manageable. (Both as a way of keeping track of things for yourself, and for other people to contribute.)
ElementalAlchemist: As far as I'm aware it's still mostly IRC-based
bytecaster: To be fair, float point rounding is a mess.
Driosenth: BOO, bad to rounding, UI's should always have a dropdown to "show sig-fig, and fractions"
Driosenth: ASME B1.X thread specs are riddled with rounding problems
jjcard: looks like a fun simple issue to look into /s at least it's not timezones
wolgo: Yeah, you first call normal scale, and then centerScale, so you might fix this by putting normal scale in the else instead of doing two scales
bytecaster: If it jitters for more than one px, it might be a conditioning problem with the arithmetic.
TheMerricat:
Paul asks and immediately gets responses 
tautologico42: vue.js?
bytecaster: yes
LordZarano: suckerpinch on YT just made an entire NES emulator (and many other things) using only linear functions, based solely on the non-linearity of floating point numbers
accountmadeforants: You could set up a pipeline to create a distributable, yeah.
offbeatwitch: either just download those files and vendor them, or, use a bundler yeah
Der_Hubi: There could be a problem with version upgrades and breaking changes.
wildpeaks: yeah a package.json to specify dependencies and a script to generate a distributable version
wildpeaks:
ah 
accountmadeforants: I can highly recommend "microbundle" if all you want to do is just putting a bunch of things in one distributable. It's as little fuss as is possible for most applications.
bytecaster: If you ask me, that is a reasonable position.
RockPusher:
Paul is from a simpler time 
ThorSokar:
HELL YES, I also avoid it like the plague 
wildpeaks:
then you have no choice: either url, either manually cope the files 
wildpeaks: *copy
RockPusher: git gud
wolgo: Just don't ever force push
tautologico42: git is complicated, I always have to lookup how to do some stuff
ThorSokar: haha, no one knows how to use git
TheMerricat:
SVN for the win baby 
ElementalAlchemist: Git is great
SocraticMethod: Aww, but Git has saved my bacon so many times
offbeatwitch: you must consult the ancient git wizards
tautologico42: yeah, everyone just memorizes some incantations and that's it
ThorSokar: (that's not a slight on you, I just don't like git)
Pteraspidomorphi: I know how to use git, and I've only destroyed two or three repositories!
jjcard:
I usually just let the IDE do git stuff for me. And delete/pull if anything goes wrong 
RockPusher: For a lone developer, very surface level git is fine
Boopity:

wildpeaks: I spent years on SVN, having to compete with coworkers just to be able to commit was a daily pain, never again
LordZarano: Can't get git
ElementalAlchemist: that said, you don't usually need to get *that* deep into Git
accountmadeforants: I like Sublime Merge for making sense of some of the more esoteric Git stuff, without it outright going off and doing its own weird thing (like other GUIs like GitKraken tends to do in my experience)
Mangledpixel: something something git good
Boopity: My extent of using git is just committing every now and then and then pushing
RockPusher: Git's complexity exists to handle heavily distributed asynchronous development
offbeatwitch: git was really designed for the needs of the linux kernel, it's kind of an overengineered beast for everything else
wildpeaks: VSCode's integration with Git is so convenient
SocraticMethod: I started using Git to sync my PCB designs between PCs and I found it suprisingly usable
SocraticMethod: Just have to remember commit and push before leaving the PC
SocraticMethod:
git commit -m "WIP" 
accountmadeforants: "git checkout -b wip-whatever"
ExtraWubs: Paul pay for winrawr? :3
shendaras: Rather, probably, git stash
wolgo: Like I tell my coworkers, Please commit your half working code in case you get sick or something.
SocraticMethod: Exactly!
Pteraspidomorphi: git commit -m "oops"
wolgo: Yeah, when merging we squash the commits anyways
wildpeaks:
I forgot all the Git commands by now, I let VSCode handle it and just click the buttons 
wolgo: Half my commits are: "Oops, checkstyle complains about my code"
Glodenox: I've mostly been using Fork to manage Git stuff lately
Boopity: The best kind of usefulness
wildpeaks: @wolgo you could give Prettier a try, this way you don't have to recall to do it
accountmadeforants: wolgo Same here (both on the committing everything and squashing commits when merging PRs). Also, make a branch from your own branch if you're going off on a tangent, it'll make it a lot easier to figure out your train of thought (and decide to just cut your losses) later.
ThorSokar: The best sky-pilot game ever made!
ThorSokar: *sky-pirate
wolgo: @wolgo I have something run automatically if I install, I just sometimes forget to see if my code actually works
SocraticMethod: Now if you want to get to special Git hell, there is a program to manage large-volume data called Data Version Control that works inside a Git repo. So you've got Git-like inside a Git.
ThorSokar: so you're using exiftool to get the image size and then creating an appropriate sized div below it?
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KeytarCat: @SocraticMethod something something git gud?
adept_nekomancer: General infrastructure tip: if you ever find yourself within 3 or more nested version control systems, something has gone very wrong
ThorSokar: oh, ok
SocraticMethod: @SocraticMethod No. dvc gud first. Then git commit & git gud
wolgo: @adept_nekomancer I'd already be worries by the first nested
accountmadeforants: There's apparently a 5-year old plugin to add filters (like borders and drop shadows) to sources (obs-shaderfilters). I don't have high hopes that it still works, though
Mangledpixel: we had a similar tool for Desert Bus
Mangledpixel:
and I took part of your overlay system and hacked it around to make the gameshow overlays 
RockPusher:
Noted dog enthusiast Joe Trollo 
ThorSokar: Turns out Desert Bus is VERY much an edge-case, in a huge number of things
Mangledpixel: that was a lot of learning by the seat of my pants
ThorSokar: sometimes a even a starting point or a reference is helpful
Mangledpixel: eh, it all worked in the end
tautologico42: yeah, having the source without explanation can be tough
accountmadeforants: Hey, at least you haven't disappeared from the face of the earth, unlike working on legacy projects
RockPusher: someone in a couple years: "Why does the overlay code have functions for playing Bad Apple?"
ThorSokar: hahaha
ElementalAlchemist: How else are we going to verify Bad Apple?
ThorSokar: Mr 1k checkmarks himself
ThorSokar: haha
Mangledpixel: all the hardcoded stuff
wolgo: Ofcourse I have a copy of the LRR server at home
wolgo: Doesn't everyone?
wildpeaks: a Docker Compose to simulate the environment/server is neat
tautologico42: hardcore hardcoding
WarKr0: the code is in fact, not portable
ElementalAlchemist: docker-compose: it is the environment!
wolgo: Coding flexibility where you don't need it is bad anyways
accountmadeforants: Right, gotta spin up a Kubernetes cluster to perfectly emulate the LRR office.
LordZarano: @wolgo Are you one of the VST?
wolgo: @wolgo No not at all
LordZarano: @wolgo (I assume that's how they do it)
noSmokeFire: the chat was coming from inside the house
ThorSokar: haha
dougma: still, standards
wildpeaks: "the ping is coming from inside the house"
RockPusher: I don't know if containerising Beej is a good idea for the continued existence of humanity?
tautologico42: INSTALL.md: "you have to recreate the whole moonbase in order for the code to work"
Boopity: Security? Who needs it?
offbeatwitch: @RockPusher `docker pull beej:latest`
wildpeaks:

wolgo: @wolgo No idea, I was just joking
LordZarano: Defence-in-depth
TheMerricat: TIL that ws: was a valid protocol handler....
offbeatwitch: that could be a good !advice: "Containerize Beej."
accountmadeforants: My favourite security, "untrusted clients can't get here anyway"
wildpeaks: not even SCP can containerize Beej
ElementalAlchemist: @TheMerricat and wss for a secure websocket connection
TemporallyAwry: !findquote contain
LRRbot: Quote #3846: "I contain multitudes...of bullets" —Ian [2017-01-11]
ThorSokar: "I know there is a server here, I can ping it, it responds, but we CAN NOT find it" (OLD jokes) [turns out the server was between a 2 walls during a re-model)
wolgo: Serverless Beej so we can have a exactly as much of him as we need
NullColaShip: "To install the Nifty Crop Mover, first you must create the Moonbase network" - Carl Sagan
RockPusher: Beej — Now Dynamically Scalable!
wildpeaks: is Beej web-scale ?
tautologico42: Beej as a service
Boopity: BaaS
thesurfaceofthemoon: Scalable Beej sounds like a B2B service of dubious effect.
accountmadeforants: ESB: Enterprise Service Beej
TemporallyAwry:
Surely Beej is more of a platform, than a service 
wolgo: BPM: Beej Process Management
TheMerricat: Chat, I worry about all of you. Beej is obviously a virus.
wildpeaks: weeeee
RockPusher: Wheeeee!
thesurfaceofthemoon: If Beej is a virus, are we all infected?
Boopity: Woo!
GhostValv: wowie
ThorSokar: the side-scroll was my favorite
offbeatwitch: wHEah
beowuuf:

SocraticMethod: I know this is acceptable in JS but I cant help but shudder when I see Unicode symbol in code: {{item.isGroup?"🖿 ":""}}
SquidVorb: Spindows 10
ElementalAlchemist: Those were fun
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GhostValv: D:
offbeatwitch: speeeeeeeeeeeen
SocraticMethod: *Hurk*
emberBecky:
could you duplicate them and make a windmill.. 
beowuuf:

TheMerricat:
Let me off Mr. Saunder's Wild Ride. 
SquareDotCube: Reminds me of the carousel malfunction in Roller Coaster Tycoon where it'd just go faster
ThorSokar: oh, is it dance time?
ElementalAlchemist: Control Failure was always a fun one
emberBecky: womp womp womp
Mangledpixel: boots n cats n boots n cats
TheMerricat:
Paul I beg of you, do not let Ben have this power, Let's Nope would never be the same. 
wildpeaks: untz untz nutz
ThorSokar: boots 'n cats, boots n' cats
Boopity: Woo! Get crunk in here!
RockPusher: ♫ The system, is down ♫
SnackPak_: London I can't hear yooou
wildpeaks:

RockPusher:
Trigonometry 
SnowBuddy18: that's just visual modular synthesis at that point
wildpeaks: spooky
TemporallyAwry:
this is fine
SocraticMethod: @RockPusher Simple geotmetry!
Boopity: Oh god
noSmokeFire: the dutch (angle)!
accountmadeforants: Needs to slowly strink as well, until it becomes the streamless void
shendaras: Can you scale the horizontal and vertical independently?
wildpeaks: tbh this kind of effects is a fun way to learn trigonometry
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RockPusher: I miss the 18GaC creative streams
RockPusher:
They were wonderful
engines
rubikdarkwill: There was also the time you did it to Ben's camera as a goof
wildpeaks: the subtle Dutch angle, like in Doki Doki
ThorSokar: There are 3 18 games and counting where creative came up, one with you and Heather, one with you and James, one with you alone
accountmadeforants: *Interstellar theme starts playing*
Mangledpixel: we did that on Rust Proof Bee Shed, where the logo in the corner was rotating very slowly
noSmokeFire: star trek TOS stream where you shake the stream to make it look like the studio has been hit by photon torpedos
PigmyWurm: Next let's nope Paul just trolling Ben and Adam
TemporallyAwry:
But only tips like 5 degrees back and forth very slowly. I could see that 
omdorastrix: Have the scene tip like that then drop down as a scene transition
RockPusher: Things, but very slowly.
ThorSokar: hahha
beowuuf: o7 to kate
Mangledpixel: the end result should not be worn directly against the skin
RockPusher:
I dunno, I think it went exceedingly well 
wildpeaks: baii, thanks for the stream
ElementalAlchemist: Thank you for sharing this; it was quite interesting
ThorSokar: I'd say if it makes people giggle, it fits your job description perfectly
GhostValv:

RockPusher:
Thank you Paul 
LordZarano: "Includes everything you need" (It did not contain everything they needed)
TemporallyAwry:
Thanks for the stream 
Glodenox: Thanks for the stream!
beowuuf: thanks for streaming!
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: i appreciated it paul
Mangledpixel: well teched, good teching
ThorSokar:

wildpeaks:
see you in 4 years then 
noSmokeFire: technically, this is more AND the future
Mangledpixel: they're like olympic games
JonnyGlitched: Hey look it's my favorite Paul!
offbeatwitch: oh boy
offbeatwitch: excellent
RockPusher:
and now, demonstrations of more tools Paul made 
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JonnyGlitched: secrets!
JonnyGlitched: Sell it as a bundle
DEATHlikescats: The whole ecosystem of LRR tech is well integrated into each other tech bit. Symbiotic
TheWriterAleph: sounds like real life
Boopity:
Is this the TWEWY everyone keeps talking about? 
JonnyGlitched: who doesn't like rasins?!
TemporallyAwry:
Time Paradox are fun 
RockPusher: Hors!
PigmyWurm: This an Okami situation?
JonnyGlitched: more lines?
Boopity: Oooooh!
rubikdarkwill: points at @ThorSokar
JonnyGlitched: 4 times the Trine
offbeatwitch: terra nil, big chillout game
DoodlestheGreat: The spoopy is real.
Haroldholmes25: need to play a different remake
DEATHlikescats: Yet more amazing LRR tech
DEATHlikescats: Terra Nil is so soothing
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DoodlestheGreat: !storm
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DEATHlikescats: The lysdexia hitting hard
JonnyGlitched: Etal-uia?
DoodlestheGreat: CU later, paul.
GhostValv: o7
DeM0nFiRe:
o/ 
emberBecky:

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