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GreatWahooney: hello chat
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GreatWahooney: I hear we're terraforming today
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TehAmelie: These words feel almost real!
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TehAmelie: it's funny cause words are made up. might have been funnier if i waited until any words were actually talked, now that i think of it
TehAmelie: talking sim jokes!
TemporallyAwry: !findquote words
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GreatWahooney: right? talking simulation technology is amazing these days
CAKHost watching carefully when the helicopter appears because she still thinks the grass is the pilot of said helicopter.
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Steel_Wish: Great start
CAKHost: Sure is a mug!
TheAinMAP: Hello.
GreatWahooney: pretty good actually!
TehAmelie: hello!
SnackPak_: it goes
Sarah_Serinde: I really liked the demo of this game but I haven't gotten around to picking it up now that it's out
CAKHost: I got my mini tomagotchi, the Jurassic Park version!
Juliamon: Long hair is not meant for warm climates.
MilkInBags:
living juices 
TemporallyAwry: human bodies right? Can't wait for the next patch.
KV1NN4: Hair-Bun buddies!
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Darleysam: I have opinions about this game, and I'm curious to see what you make of it
CAKHost: Moist body regions... D:
MilkInBags: 30 in may? wow
Sarah_Serinde: That's too warm
Juliamon: nooooo not in May!
GreatWahooney: oh heck
Steel_Wish: Man I felt that, I cut my hair last week after 4 years of growth and feeling the breeze on my scalp was very alien
Gekyouryuu: That's over 80F for Americans
MilkInBags: That's what we do here
Crokoking: i have a setup like that with a wooden board - works great
Rourke9: oh thats the worst
SnackPak_: so rude
MilkInBags: Ian is a mosquito man disguised as a human?
Sarah_Serinde: Totally unfair
LordZarano: Are the mosquitos friends with the birds?
Juliamon: I seem to have hit on an exact combination of meds that make my blood unappealing to mosquitos, it's a nice upside
roastbeefsandwitch: Mosquitos are bad / bird food
MilkInBags: they have an ecological function: spread diseases and viruses, so, they suck
TheMerricat: I thought they were also pollinators...
KV1NN4: Swallow. Better. And Swiftly.
TemporallyAwry: They're vectors, they're probably necessary in the same way that disease is "useful" for nature.
Juliamon: They seem too small to be effective pollinators
KV1NN4: Male mosquitoes likely are
Rourke9: i feel like bees have that mostly covered
KeytarCat: @TheMerricat Pollinators and water-based biomass, so probably fish food
TheMerricat: "In 1913, it was first determined that mosquitoes are pollinators too! In the early 1970s, scientists determined that the Aedes communis was an important pollinator of Platanthera obtusata, the blunt-leaf orchid. In fact, many mosquitoes around the world pollinator small flowers that live in wetter environments."
MilkInBags: I mean we got bees as pollinators, let's stick with that
SnackPak_: more bees!
Darleysam: mosquitos? No, lessquitos.
beowuuf: like a tribble!
Juliamon: A lot of bugs are secretly adorable!
LambMower: Look, screw nature. We get rid of the mosquitoes and ticks, we'll deal with the consequences
roastbeefsandwitch: I hear that @LambMower
MilkInBags: imitation beej
GreatWahooney: ok I looked up botflies and I rate them a solid nope out of 10
Laserbeaks_Fury: It's like playing GAIA from Horizon
Steel_Wish: Sounds like you're playing the Precursor race in Stellaris
Darleysam: they go in a box under the bed where, every three years, you take it back out and go "oh, damn, I need to do something with this"
roastbeefsandwitch: written by Michael Braungart and US architect William McDonough.
Juliamon: Everything's just dirt
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ladyjessica: this game is fun
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Robot_Bones: no, its on page 32
electric_claire: Braiding Sweetgrass is a great book about this.
Robot_Bones: we're legally obligated
KeytarCat: I think a lot about Cam's Vampire character
SnackPak_: fingers crossed
goatprince: and meets efeghenia
roastbeefsandwitch: Don't make the Houston, Texas of the world: the wall of concrete. Integrate nature and work with it.
Juliamon: Mars for the Rich
goatprince: who is on mars
jessieimproved: We can get rid of all the billionaires that way, it works
roastbeefsandwitch: Less flooding from hurricanes, if nothing else, that way.
frnknstn: excited
Robot_Bones: I think a lot about Cam's tweet about us sloshing around in space stations filled with our own Pee
Sarah_Serinde: That'll teach him to try to offer helpful suggestions
goatprince: game doesn't have goats 5/10
KV1NN4: This game is on my wishlist still... I guess this stream will determine how much faster I'll buy it once I can XD
goatprince: still play it tho
Laserbeaks_Fury: Zero Dawn
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nosole: Terra Nil is so good. A little shorter than I would've liked it to be, but such a great take on a management sim
LambMower: My hometown has a paper mill that used to be a real big polluter of the local river, nowadays thanks to technological developments they actually double as a water cleansing plant these days so what comes out is cleaner than what comes in
LambMower: And that's neat
Robot_Bones: once you have solved your litter problem, please toss this book on someone elses planet
roastbeefsandwitch: CAM!
Robot_Bones:
hmmm, suboptimal 
Juliamon: LambMower Nice! My town just has a superfund site. That I can see from my house.
KeytarCat: The ND problem of having no bad choices!
MrTulip: yes, that was morrowind
Alephred: Yes, that what the game tells you if you kill Vivec.
TheMerricat: Yes it was
Alephred: *that's
margieargie: Yep, though of course if you knew what to do you could win even if you got that message in most cases...
jessieimproved: I played Morrowind so obsessively that I don't actually remember it well
CAKHost: I'm getting final stage of Dragon Quest Builders now with this start. Huh.
Invitare: that's not what "crop rotation" means
Robot_Bones: nope, pave it
TehAmelie: we bricked ourselves on grass?
goatprince: oh look, a tree
Thisbymaster: no S rank.
goatprince: you watered it back to life
roastbeefsandwitch: symmetry to the eye
TehAmelie: do you think we are actually floating on a slab of land in the abyss, like in Sim City 2000?
goatprince: we don't want symmetry here, we're not making a versaille garden
goatprince: The End
margieargie: Gotta start over...
Angnor33: Operational Area Expanded...
TehAmelie: well, not that small a slab anyway, i guess
Laserbeaks_Fury: Can you reclaim buuildings?
CAKHost: We have 1 happy tree. That counts!
EricTheOrange: "you need to scrub before you squoosh"
Mischievous_Catgeist: hiya everyone
goatprince: don't forget, we're playing Minecraft in the environment you clean afterwards
LordZarano:
Look, nature is supposed to be imperfect 
Gekyouryuu: But why be natural when we can be SUPER natural? ....wait, no, that means something else
goatprince: This Kills The Cam
goatprince: I'm dying squirtle
Rourke9: horror game
EricTheOrange: I find it's best to think of this game as a puzzle game rather than a city builder.
TheMerricat: No acre
Asimech: "No, drag it from the corner not the- Give me the mouse!"
TheMerricat: Left behind
LordZarano: It's about the environment, of course it's a horror game
xantos69: I am so happy watching this suffering. This is exactly how I play games also.
Mischievous_Catgeist: its so spooky even serge had to wear his safety hoodie
Laserbeaks_Fury: Where does the circle go? That's right, the *square* hole
goatprince: this is physically killing me, so we have that incommon
fiftymcnasty: So it turns out this game is dangerous for Cam
bytecaster: But it will be an entertaining death!
SnackPak_: Lil Jon
GreatWahooney: 420!
goatprince: you're wetting the drys
bytecaster: @GreatWahooney Even has a green leaf next to it
Laserbeaks_Fury: well, now we know water will fill out the riverbeds
GreatWahooney: if you didn't want us to laugh, why did you choose to be funny
MercurialVox: you better believe they did it on purpose, this game is built to foil minmaxing
Despoiler98: ruined
Sarah_Serinde:
Yeah, yeah this is kind of how I felt when I played the demo 
roastbeefsandwitch: water torture: Cameron edition
xantos69: Your tears give me strength.
ladyjessica: I was not anticipating this reaction.
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fiftymcnasty: Perfect is the enemy of good
KeytarCat: We thought we were wise
TemporallyAwry:
I good, I made it back just in time for fun 
GreatWahooney: I will recommend this game to all of my overthinker friends
goatprince: you didn't scrub them,cam
GreatWahooney: they will hate me forever
bytecaster: @GreatWahooney Someone is choosing violence today
GreatWahooney: @GreatWahooney you bet!
MilkInBags: D:
MilkInBags: the demon escaped
LambMower: A yes, the stress burps
ZethRuss: valid spots for the water pump are highlighted in blue btw
Gekyouryuu: I suspect there's a reason irrigation and irritation rhyme
PotatoWraiths: feared into belch
Laserbeaks_Fury: so, if you place the seed sprayers, and later reclaim the soils in it's splash zone, does it grow grass there?
GreatWahooney: still waiting for that belch supercut
bytecaster: Maybe this is a metaphor about that looking for a perfect solution is making us dissatisfied with good solutions that actually solve the problem.
Juliamon: Any viewers lost to a belch are not viewers that were meant for this stream anyway
MercurialVox: @Laserbeaks_Fury nope, you gotta throw another sprayer down if you want that perfection
TehAmelie: could it be the game has some kind of theme about recreating natural growth, in contrast to the straight lines of humans?
JakeKamas: What if we merely accepted imperfections?
MercurialVox: Oxygenating Hysterically
goatprince: not before I do
Angnor33: Cameron is playing Nightmare Tetris right now...
bytecaster: Oh no, not my pants!
Mischievous_Catgeist: im going to wet my plants with all this laughing
MilkInBags: what about not healing nature and just keep making profits somehow?
morbis237: It's like watching a traincrash in slowmotion, I can't look away
roastbeefsandwitch: better still if the area treated was semi-random within the boundaries, so it would always become a random, frustrating pattern
TemporallyAwry:
In today's lesson "perfect is the enemy of good," an interacting exhibit 
fiftymcnasty: Is this game too zen for Cam?
goatprince: that's what chat is for
GreatWahooney:
move to soil step 
Laserbeaks_Fury: PROLIFERATE! PROLIFERATE!
bytecaster: Aaah, great there is also an element of sequencing, that can be optimized!
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Mischievous_Catgeist: clippy is here for you
Sarah_Serinde:
Gee thanks game 
Laserbeaks_Fury: Is 100% even possible?
xantos69: I love how Cam's world is LITERALLY not sustainable.
wizzo1138: Nothing can possibly go wrong now
InquisitorGaia: yes 100% is possible
MilkInBags: healing nature must be perfect, or else why even bother
Mischievous_Catgeist: serge also had this much trouble when he started
lackingsanity: @Laserbeaks_Fury yes, because of some mechanics that havent been introduced yet
Juliamon: "perfect is the enemy of done"
bytecaster: Or to reiterate a previous notion, maybe accept imperfection but save the planet?
goatprince: please improve
Sarah_Serinde:

MilkInBags:
the game is short when you succeed 
Sarah_Serinde:
It's short when you don't care 
bytecaster: Dark Souls is short once you git gud, too
GreatWahooney: ah yes, madness is always an option, therefore a necessity
Asimech: @Juliamon But if it's not done perfectly, how could it possibly be considered "done"? No, I must continue planning until it's _perfect_.
margieargie: Turns out circles don't tesselate well
wizzo1138: No pixels left behind!
GreatWahooney: yeah, Cori, why?
bytecaster: This game is all about finding an optimal sphere packing!
GreatWahooney: do you not want perfection?
roastbeefsandwitch: at least it's not a practical test of graph theory / the traveling salesman problem
Boopity: Ooh, I just came in and the music is lovely!
bytecaster: @roastbeefsandwitch yet
LordZarano: Happy little trees! Happy little trees and happy little accidents!
Laserbeaks_Fury: Do you get resources for the grass you grow?
GreatWahooney: correct
Laserbeaks_Fury: So, ideally you want to be super efficient at the start, and then clean up after
BraveOthello: @roastbeefsandwitch I love it when my customers ask me to solve the TSP optimizing for total time and distance
bytecaster: We used up all the electricity
Laserbeaks_Fury: The windmill is full
MercurialVox: windmill is capped also
lackingsanity: its at capacity anywayhs
KeytarCat: Windmill maxed out
bytecaster: What did they say about crossing the streams?
BraveOthello: On this channel we're all about Crossing the Streams
Laserbeaks_Fury: Will digging new riverbeds fill if they connect to a working pump?
GreatWahooney: @bytecaster tune in on Monday?
bytecaster: While getting the corners is a noble goal, I fear we might be using up more green to do it than we get out of it?
lackingsanity: @Laserbeaks_Fury yup
GhostValv: relatable
goatprince: just wait until the area expands yet again, cam
wizzo1138: So, at the end of this, does Cam walk away forever, or buy it at home and never be seen again?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Can you break down building?
bytecaster: We are flying very close to the sun here.
lackingsanity: theres an undo button on the right of the bar there!
GreatWahooney: no ctrl+z?
Creideiki_SE: One step of undo.
GreatWahooney: oh, we have one. good!
goatprince: you can undo one action
GreatWahooney: this would drive me mad if I had no undo
bytecaster: @GreatWahooney This would simply drive me mad, even with undo
Laserbeaks_Fury: What happens if you dig river bed into hills?
ZethRuss: you can only undo one step though
MilkInBags: so is this a chill game, or a really hardcore finnicky strategy city building game
ZethRuss: @MilkInBags It#
GreatWahooney: @MilkInBags apparently there's a zen mode so... both?
ZethRuss: it's what you make of it
Boopity:
But the music is so lovely, Cameron 
goatprince: cam's build different
fiftymcnasty: Cam isnt most people, he's built differnt
bytecaster: Really?
Laserbeaks_Fury: dont foirget you get free grass on river banks
verifiablyhuman:
i would also be going crazy about the little splotches of non-grass 
margieargie:

KeytarCat: @Laserbeaks_Fury 🍃🍁
goatprince: this'll end like Black Swan, with cam dying saying 'I was perfect...'
Natimus_Prime: It might be helpful for chat to know the percentage isn't the total coverage, just progress to the next phase. You hit 100% before you get all the grass spots
lackingsanity: the number is the net resource amount, so the cost of the irrigator is already taken out
TheThirdTail: Notably, the number that is displayed when hovering the building is the net change (so it subtracts the cost already)
xantos69: Ok, I think I can fix this. Cam, restart the level. I will cheer bits = to how much green you have once you finish this phase.
TheThirdTail: Oh, I know plenty of untrue things as well, I just usually restrain myself
Alephred: One Chat only tells the truth. The other Chat only lies.
GreatWahooney: birb is the worb
Asimech: @Boopity Both.
Juliamon: One chat tells only truth. One chat tells only lies. They are the same chat.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Can multiple turbines be placed, or is there a minimum distance?
TemporallyAwry: !chat
LRRbot: Chat? Engaging in mimicry?
Invitare: Chat? Engaging in mimicry?
lackingsanity: @Laserbeaks_Fury theres a minimum distance, usually one per clump of rock
TehAmelie: if you were the chat that always lies, would you answer honestly if i asked which one you were?
Boopity: Chat? Engaging in mimicry?
margieargie: @TehAmelie Yes.
TemporallyAwry:
@TehAmelie Yes, of Course 
Boopity:

Laserbeaks_Fury: Do hills matter for anything other than you can't place a building over the slope?
Rourke9: nice!!
LordZarano: The hunt-for-the-biggest-number gameplay really reminds me of that game where you build little towns on little islands, the sound effects too
Invitare: note how not a single response was the "No" that would indicate a truthful Chat
GreatWahooney: 102%??? that's more than perfect!
TheThirdTail: @Laserbeaks_Fury Eventually
Boopity: Woo!
margieargie: @Laserbeaks_Fury Water makers go further if they're on a hill
frnknstn: it's pronounced Feign-Bós
Creideiki_SE: @Laserbeaks_Fury Some animals require hills.
TemporallyAwry:
!
Boopity: Live bees!
Mangledpixel: live bees!
serramarkov: Electronic bees!
GreatWahooney: hydroponium? water pony???
CAKHost: Bees?!
Asimech: Beehive? Did we skip the ahive?
BrindleBoar: time to blaze it
GreatWahooney: Ashy Nutrients is my drag name
LordZarano:

bytecaster: Lets learn about forest fires!
margieargie:

DanTheMediocre: Zap the beez
lackingsanity: also you still have access to the stage 1 buildings
MilkInBags: bees nuts
Juliamon: There will be more bees
goatprince: gotta burn some bees as sacrifice to make an environment
GhostValv:

TemporallyAwry: ""Controlled"" Burn
Rourke9: that rules
Angnor33: Ahh. Good old Slash & Burn agriculture!
TehAmelie: trees!
Gekyouryuu: The universe is very simple. It can be divided into things that arboretum and aren'tboretum
DiamondMX: Ah, I played a little of this. It's charming and harder than it looks.
margieargie: I'm stiiiil in a dream, cloud seeder
TehAmelie: i think i must play it also
goatprince: make this place as hot and humid as possible and fill it with mosquitoes. the only way to protect this environment is to make it inhospitable to humans
Boopity: Grow those crystals
TheThirdTail: It's just a little burnt, it's still good
DiamondMX: Don't you have several bits of paper that say differently?
margieargie:
@goatprince If there's anying I've learned from living in the southeast US is that being inhospitable in that way doesn't prevent humans from being there anyway 
GhostValv: negative nice
DiamondMX: Wouldn't that be UNnice?
Laserbeaks_Fury: can the Firestarter destroy itself?
DiamondMX: @Laserbeaks_Fury I think so.
SquareDotCube: or the windmill
bytecaster: Actually rivers don't burn that well.
TehAmelie: rivers should not burn
goatprince: You Have Completed: Forest
bytecaster: It's because of the water.
CururuGuasu: Not Chicago: Confirmed!
TehAmelie: #controversialopinion
SquareDotCube: unless it's the Chicago river.
margieargie: Unless they're in Ohio
Laserbeaks_Fury: Can you burn wetlands, or is that a natural barrier?
fiftymcnasty: @Laserbeaks_Fury barrier
bytecaster: Cam just wants to burn down the bees, no matter what
laundreydhull:
This game has notes?

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TheThirdTail: I mean, burning everything down is an objective all its own
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Creideiki_SE: Nah, make your own fun! Don't let anyone else tell you what to do!
Boopity: Gesundheit!
GhostValv: salud
Gekyouryuu: Gesundheit
GreatWahooney: na zdrowie
Drew_64: just got here, This game looks stressfully relaxing - anyone in chat able to give me a quick catch up?
GreatWahooney: it is in Polish
laundreydhull: @creideiki_se spoken like a true Player One Dice Friends.
Boopity: In czech it's "Na zdraví"
laundreydhull: Maybe...(?)
fiftymcnasty: What happens if we hit our humidity goals?
TheThirdTail: @Drew_64 "reverse city builder." Your objective is to turn a barren landscape into a living biome then pack up your gear and gtfo
Creideiki_SE: @fiftymcnasty We become One with the moisture.
Juliamon: Drew_64 It's absolutely "stressfully relaxing"
Laserbeaks_Fury: is that a climate bonus?
Juliamon: especially if you like to minmax
TemporallyAwry:
Humans are 80% water, so clearly 80% humidity is what humans weren't designed for 
margieargie: "Salmon run" No, they swim, get it right game
GhostValv: this place is going to be so~ soggy
Drew_64: @TemporallyAwry because then im 160% humid, which is too humid imo.
Gekyouryuu: famous DC comics character Salmon Rundy
fiftymcnasty: Oooh Waterlilies
Creideiki_SE: Most climate goals are cosmetic. Some buildings need specific climate values. And rain is a mechanic.
Rourke9: oh my god
excalgold: Salmon Rundy wants pants too
Gekyouryuu: @excalgold I quote that all the time. "YES, Brainiac, what is it?!"
goatprince: is the environment wet or creepy?
Gekyouryuu: "how do we make it wet?" "remember your last girlfriend?" "yes?" "not like that."
Boopity:

WiJohn: Needs more ducks
goatprince: it goes in the square hole
lackingsanity: i recommend getting the humidity up another 5% at least
Boopity: Will you?
TemporallyAwry: To touch grass, first you must rebuild the nature.
Gekyouryuu: Cori, you just reminded me of a picture I saw on Tumblr today. "Exclusive! Frogs more popular than church! PEOPLE WANT FROGS NOT JESUS!"
Boopity: @Gekyouryuu What a powerful image.
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excalgold: so is the goal here to recycle all the stuff you have used to renew teh envrioment and then leave in an airship ?
TheThirdTail: Yep
SquareDotCube: yeah best to fill out those streambeds before you dismantle
Laserbeaks_Fury: ohh do we reclaim ruins, awesome
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Creideiki_SE: You may want to look at your climate goals before you clean up everything.
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ZethRuss: humidifiers need power too
lackingsanity: youre gonna need those rivers for your boat to get up there anyways
fiftymcnasty: Humitifyer in wetlands gives lots of percent
SquareDotCube: that big dirt spot would get you the wetlands you need
Laserbeaks_Fury: Now that I know we can reclaim buildings, I feel less bad about spending extra resources to fill out
SquareDotCube: you can also crystallize plants by the river if you need more wind power
fiftymcnasty: We can make it rain?
ZethRuss: just wait till can sees what rain does
TemporallyAwry: It's the allergies, just look at all the pollen in the air.
Creideiki_SE: Cam plays this game like I played Spiritfarer: a stressful management sim about optimizing building space and cooking time, and running all over the map to find ingredients for picky NPCs who can't be bothered to clearly articulate what they want.
lackingsanity: got there
SerGarretCameron: I would suggest pulling back and watching the system work.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Minecraft vibes
fiftymcnasty: Nature is healing!
CAKHost: Grass!
lackingsanity: so this rain is why its not that important to hit every single tile early on
Rourke9: this is incredibly satisfying now
Laserbeaks_Fury: ahhhh
lackingsanity: since it will fill in the remaining spots you miss
Laserbeaks_Fury: it's even reclaiming the bad dirt
CAKHost: But salmon swim, not run, game. D:
margieargie: Finally, the salmon can grow legs!
PotatoWraiths: fush
GhostValv: time for fish exercise
excalgold: the fish Cannon is the best thing i have ever seen on television
MAPBoardgames: How do salmon run? They've got no leggies.
excalgold: the second time tom hanks got hit with a fake fish he looked genuinely surprised !
GhostValv:

CAKHost: Launch the Salmon!
TheThirdTail: There'll be more rain
CAKHost: Ah okay!
CAKHost: Fsh
DEATHlikescats: Cute lil loch system
goatprince: you recycle it
lackingsanity: its going to get recycled as well
lackingsanity: so don't make it hard for yourself
MAPBoardgames: Here fishies! Get up in the boat, come on, get up in the boat!
margieargie: Oh, deer!
MAPBoardgames: Oh deer!
TemporallyAwry:
^

GhostValv:

denu55: Frod!
GreatWahooney: heck yeah frog friend
TheAinMAP:

BrindleBoar: who's that pokemon
CAKHost: Frog!
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lackingsanity: you don't need every species
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MAPBoardgames: Da Bears!
Juliamon: BEAR BEAR BEARRRR
Clench_Eastwood: ironically that is basically what you do IRL to prevent large scale forrest fires
boglebog: Lake requirement is really hard to meet
TheRumRunner: Hello LRR people!
excalgold: does the wetlands count as a lake area?
lackingsanity: you just need a certain amount of water tiles
ZethRuss: you need something wider
lackingsanity: which you might not have
JakeKamas: Do they have to meet the requirements for all of these animals?
CAKHost: A tiny spider is hanging out on my modem irl
lackingsanity: water tiles
lackingsanity: not lilies
RAICx: tiles, not lilies
Gekyouryuu:
if you want geese, start a King of Fighters tournament 
goatprince: you just gotta excavate with about 10 buildings to make a lake. easy
TheThirdTail: @JakeKamas Only need 3 to progress, technically
TheThirdTail: I don't think I've seen anyone not collect them all, though
alascaneverdied: think like a beaver
MAPBoardgames: Kitty!
margieargie: There wolf
goatprince: awoo
GreatWahooney: awoo indeed!
Laserbeaks_Fury: can we dig a lake out?
MAPBoardgames: Oh, not a kitty. Am disappointed
excalgold: i think it said 'large river' ?
excalgold: on the scan that is
lackingsanity: partially met means you need more tiles of that type
excalgold: oh yay!
margieargie: Ah, there's the CanCon
Rourke9: maybe the big intersection of the river?
Laserbeaks_Fury: maybe tiles with no land
SquareDotCube: large lake seems to rarely generate on the first map
Laserbeaks_Fury: bordering
ZethRuss: the tooltip lies regarding lakes
ZethRuss: it will still say "river"
lackingsanity: you can also speed up the boat in the top left
KeytarCat:
I thought you could recycler hop 
Laserbeaks_Fury: do recycle building recycle recycle buildings?
SquareDotCube: they do not
Rourke9: when do we unlock the findom building
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lackingsanity: rip fynbos
TheThirdTail: Yeah, unfortunately the terminology is a little loose. When it says it needs a "lake," it's not using a game term. It just means "a lot of river tiles"
Mangledpixel: !y
LRRbot: HONK!
GreatWahooney: goose confirmed loose
MAPBoardgames: Would you take a gander at that!
TheThirdTail:

Creideiki_SE: Whoo, maximum environmentalism achieved!
TheAinMAP:

Mangledpixel:

fiftymcnasty: And all we had to do was destroy a bunch of wetland
Boopity: Loose geese!
Laserbeaks_Fury: reclaim those ruins?
Blasteg: my people need me
MAPBoardgames: Wasteland WASTED!
BrindleBoar: praise the sun
betweenmyself:
You should blend Geese to ensure your smoothie retains the nutrient packed pulp. 
bytecaster: There are still patches without grass though
inconsideratehat: But that's their favourite
Steel_Wish: Dark Souls pop-ups in the voice and style of Tekken announcements
BrindleBoar: Look, yes, nature is gross. But the alternative is worse.
KeytarCat: I want a timelapse
TehAmelie: at least it can't get any cocaine
GreatWahooney: if we can see it from this height, it must be a very large frog
goatprince: house hippo mod when
fiftymcnasty: Let loose the Frogs of War
BrindleBoar:

TemporallyAwry: This was nice
margieargie: Life, uh.... finds a way
CAKHost: I'm reminded of the first Unskippable XD
cosynecromancer: It's all x-com? Always was.
Lobo_Apache: So, this is what happens after factorio/satisfactory?
Mangledpixel breaks time
Blasteg: why is all makeed out only 70%?
TehAmelie: has there been some continental shift?
GreatWahooney: good night folks, see you on the vod!
CAKHost: Eternal Sonata! I was thinking about that while we were in the overhead shots. XD
dumbo3k: @TehAmelie this may not be Earth, either. Wouldn't surprise me if humans managed to ruin multiple planets before concerted efforts were made to fix it
CAKHost: Good night!
Creideiki_SE: @Blasteg After you finish one map on each continent, another one unlocks.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Are we sure this is Earth? Or are we performing an ecosystem colonization on another planet
Steel_Wish: Pretty sure this is Earth 2: Electric Boogaloo
Juliamon: It's probably Mars after Elon finishes "colonizing" it
SnowBuddy18: nah, too live-able for Elon
TheThirdTail: I'm actually not sure that there's a specific narrative. But the tutorial book implies that you are one of many environmental engineers reclaiming one of many planets, so I imagine it's kind of a Star Trek-esque thing
MAPBoardgames: Audio dubling/echoing?
TemporallyAwry:

Juliamon: MAPBoardgames Must be your end
They_Are_Alyx: Beer beer beer beer!
Steel_Wish: *Davey Jones from Spongebob* "Welcome back!"
betweenmyself: 🍑 y
DEATHlikescats: Truth
MAPBoardgames: Ah. A second tab had opened
MAPBoardgames: Thanks @Juliamon !
dumbo3k: @MAPBoardgames do you have two windows open of the stream?
TehAmelie: we have performed a wondrous act of creation, now let's do it again and better!
Juliamon: TURT TIME
Invitare: Is this dog?
TemporallyAwry: So Antartica!?!
TheThirdTail: Fairly sure there's no way to finish the last 30% yet anyway
DEATHlikescats: This game gives me solarpunk vibes. Hopeful feels
ballesta25: Who's Pellago, and why are we stealing their arch?
DEATHlikescats: The Hudson in the 70’s when it caught on fire
GhostValv: D:
TheAinMAP:

TehAmelie: you could have gone with "peasoup river", but why stop at family friendly
KV1NN4: What's the Thame sin Ontario like?
TehAmelie: i did
Steel_Wish: Gonna be honest, I didn't go on many field trips
frameshifty: in WI you generally get at least one cow milking field trip
Rourke9: I grew up by the Hudson River - its so so much better now than it was 20-30 years ago
TemporallyAwry: No, we FieldTripped to the photo-op propaganda farms that pretended "everything is fine, see?" petting zoo.
TheThirdTail: I think the only field trip I remember was to some weird colonial America recreation thing. The midwest is a place.
Juliamon: We did field trips to historical sites, because New England
lackingsanity: I didn't really do 'lake' field trips - we went to playland for a physics field trip though, that was fun
DEATHlikescats: I’m in SoCal so it was always to the beach
margieargie: Pretty much all our lakes here are TVA-created... not field trips though, they were for summer camps
Blasteg: would the map become unbeatable if it starts with no rocks
betweenmyself: Too many machines that need milking, no time for cows.
lackingsanity: We also did a trip to bamfield
TehAmelie: desalinated water AND cool rocks?
goatprince: the standard school field trip growing up for me was going to see the salmon run. so. smelly river full of dead fish
Steel_Wish: The only cool and "original" field trips I went on were both in High School to Grand Junction to perform in the Best of the West thing
Steel_Wish: For band
TehAmelie: Cameron's esophagus has opinions
goatprince: kootenay region salmon run, some small river there
goatprince: 'going' to the kootenays, I lived there, lol
lackingsanity: Fort langley historic site
excalgold: i remember outdoor school, the science museum and the locak bread factory
goatprince: oh, and barkerville. that was the actual Long trip
TheThirdTail: Missed one tile. Such unbearable shame.
MerlotMage: Barkerville looked amazing on Road Quest, definitely added that route to the Dream Vacation queue
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Laserbeaks_Fury: god, that makes me think of Terraforming Mars
Laserbeaks_Fury: can we make sea rocks on any Ocean, or only clean?
GhostValv: balance in all things~
Invitare: Sand banks are also a great deterrent for Sith Lords and Communists alike
Laserbeaks_Fury: You can probably slap some humidifiers on those sea rocks? Or do it need to be fresh water?
goatprince: [cheerfully] Coral Polyps!
TehAmelie: based on how the pockets of detoxed water doesn't mix with the rest at all, i think this river is really stagnated
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MAPBoardgames: Monorail? That sounds like a Shelbyville idea.
xantos69: Burn plants every day
Mangledpixel: Monorail! I hear it really put brockway, ogdenville, and north haverbrook on the map!
Blasteg: before you burn stuff, Moss
Ctabbe: oh no! the moss
Laserbeaks_Fury: aww
dumbo3k: its too hot for moss on rocks now
CAKHost: Time for Crab!
TehAmelie: we also want over 35°C? is this the tropics or something? (it is the tropics)
MAPBoardgames: Littarium seems like a real son of a beach.
Logue_Yne: They are gonna summon voxy !
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Steel_Wish: I love when my crabs say their ideal beach
Laserbeaks_Fury: ohh mangroves
MAPBoardgames: The biggest of numbers!
BrowneePoints: Mangroves are super important
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BrowneePoints: and also why the hurricanes in the American South are getting worse
CAKHost: Ecology is popping off!
sing_o_muse:

Juliamon: Welcome Rodeo! We're making number go up!
mishrasbauble: hello camerori
CAKHost: Hi Wheeler!
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Mangledpixel: just normal mangrove
Gooseblast:

mishrasbauble:

Mangledpixel: just innocent mangrove
CAKHost: We have crab!
TehAmelie: do the mandrills live in mangroves?
KeytarCat: Themgroves
mishrasbauble: is this that one resource management game where you're trying to like...uncolonialism everything?
Juliamon: Yup!
mishrasbauble: very cool
Laserbeaks_Fury: were close to rain
TehAmelie: trying to reboot the ecology
Serivus: burn the forest!
TehAmelie: it reminds me of Dorfromantik, but better, cause i like woods more than towns
Rourke9: love the swings
goatprince: make thing green. simple
BrowneePoints: it combines two of your fave things Cameron. Number goes up, and biology!
DEATHlikescats: It’s so dang SATISFYING
BrowneePoints: well, ecology...
BrowneePoints: it involves Natural Sciences and Number Goes up!
mishrasbauble: how much is this game on steam?
Blasteg: I heard it's free if you have Netflix, of all things
CAKHost: That's a very strange statement from Cameron considering I was here at the start of the stream. XD
lackingsanity: You would have had to start going for that one before raising the temp at all
mishrasbauble: @Blasteg weird, but ill have to look into that
Laserbeaks_Fury: does rain reclaim ash?
TehAmelie: it isn't on swedish netflix, that's for sure
BrowneePoints: the game was apparently published by Devolver and Netflix in collaboration?
mishrasbauble: oh neat!
goatprince: you're do good at this game! other than the moss thing
TehAmelie: 25 euros, or 40 in a bundle with Wandering Village
DoodlestheGreat: Because you actually know enough in RL: to understand what you need to do to fix things, Cam.
TehAmelie: wouldn't have guessed those two games had any relationship
Logue_Yne: cleansing thunderstorm lezgo
dumbo3k: @TehAmelie sometimes they don't, and just came to some agreement to bundle games together, like how sometimes unaffiliated youtube channels cross promote
ZethRuss: undo
MerlotMage: *chanting* Monorail. Monorail!
Blasteg: Mono rail drifting!
LibraryWitchKei: Stay on target...
BrowneePoints: that is some good thunderstorm audio
Juliamon: This game's sound design is excellent
TehAmelie: oh okay you can download it on your phone if you have netflix. if you want to play this on a phone >_>
Laserbeaks_Fury: okay so it does reclaim ash
Blasteg: movement of buildings?
Mr_Bitterness: And the rain reclaims the toxic land
lackingsanity: Yeah getting to the rain equivalent for the biome is pretty important
BrowneePoints: I live in on of the Regions on the planet best known for Thunderstorms, and I can 100% verify, good sound design @Juliamon
lackingsanity: Gives you a ton of resources tll
lackingsanity: Too*
BrowneePoints: one*
Laserbeaks_Fury: The ocean is getting cleaned too
KeytarCat: or is that coral?
TheThirdTail: That's coral
KeytarCat: cool
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KeytarCat: Oh, it fills downward, I thought we were at 99%
TheThirdTail: Huh, I never consciously noticed it, but yeah. The progress bars go clockwise.
BloodnBullets: can you not just keep moving the one lab?
jessicaengle: Hi chat
MAPBoardgames: Wreathe the island in reefs!
TehAmelie: almost wanna get the deluxe edition of Terra Nil with an artbook. . .
lackingsanity: You can use up your old irrigators
lackingsanity: Get started on reclamation
GhostValv: you understood those mechanics much faster than I did
Laserbeaks_Fury: Do you need 2 nodes, or can you move buildings inside a single monorail radius?
TheThirdTail: Fairly sure you can have just one node, but it ends up not being particularly practical
LibraryWitchKei: Oh the monorail thing wasn't a joke. Neat
LibraryWitchKei: I'm a genius!... Oh no!
Ctabbe: whats the gun thing do?
Laserbeaks_Fury: do we not have the mineralizer?
BloodnBullets: maybe we should find animals before we reclaim the network too
Creideiki_SE: We have the rock hopper for placing rocks on land.
Mysticman89: can you chaink boinks?
LordZarano: ISLANDERS is the game I was thinking of earlier that this reminds me of
Mysticman89: i.e. shoot rocks you shot onto land
Laserbeaks_Fury: I threw a rock at 'im
Laserbeaks_Fury: It was a *big* rock...
goatprince: haven't even looked at the animals yet, having too much fun recycling
LordZarano: Which is also a relaxing city builder about putting things next to each other to get the biggest number you can find
lackingsanity: To small
lackingsanity: Too
DEATHlikescats: Tortuga!
Laserbeaks_Fury: rays?
wildpeaks: tortoise has been called
goatprince: you did design this whole island to accommodate these animals from the beginning, right?
Laserbeaks_Fury: we need a rock pusher
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MAPBoardgames: Those are mangroves not wetlands?
TheThirdTail: And here's where the game kind of trolls you... Mangrove != Wetland
fiftymcnasty: Those are mangrove tiles arnt they
ZethRuss: the red area doesn't count, its used by other animals
LordZarano: "Outdated" means there's too many buildings. Iirc
lackingsanity: only 43 degrees?
lackingsanity: that's a lot of degrees!
wildpeaks: that's the one thing I missed in Factorio, I used to try to minimize the ecological damage but you can't really avoid it
BrowneePoints: and once again, if you have Netflix you can get this for free
Laserbeaks_Fury: did you try scanning under the canopy to see if it needed to be removed?
Creideiki_SE: You can place multiple beacons and have multiple drones moving simultaneously.
FacelessManAboutTown: Good evening all, hope everyone is doing well
MAPBoardgames: As Cam desconstructs the animal finder he specifically didn't want to.
lackingsanity: you can also speed up the recycling drones in the top left
Laserbeaks_Fury: So the Animal Observatories should be placed close to the airship so it'll be the last one packed up?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Man I wish Minecraft had a pack up feature
Laserbeaks_Fury: Man, can you imagine this kind of game, but it's minecraft?
TehAmelie: it's almost as abstractified as Civilziation, i was just thinking
BrowneePoints: this reminds me, I need to watch Prehistoric Planet, and then the sequel when it comes out
jessicaengle: It's a combination tomato and carrot in one
lackingsanity: yeah this is much more a puzzle game than any sort of ecology simulator
Laserbeaks_Fury: KAK-CARROT!
nalha: bless you
TehAmelie: maybe this is what happens in between Civs
FacelessManAboutTown: Does one say bless you to a belch?
jessicaengle: At least one person
Serivus: can't you do one short of the end point and get both of the other monorail points?>
MAPBoardgames: The thunder is nice ASMR
Serivus: oops, apparently not
Laserbeaks_Fury: so, what happens if you dont have enough buildings to hit 100%? Or is the meter solely a measure of what you've built?
Steel_Wish: Visually, this game is very pleasing
lackingsanity: if you queue up multiple beacons in a line, it will clear the furthest ones first
wildpeaks: easy peezy, lemon squeezy
DEATHlikescats: Definitely
wildpeaks: chat believes
FacelessManAboutTown: I believe in y'all themffDetermind
Creideiki_SE: Placing a recycling beacon on one monorail node does not actually recycle any other nodes, even if they are shown as in range.
fiftymcnasty: It will only recycle the node you place it on
raulghoulia: Stupid games need the most attention
ZethRuss: you can queue multiple recycles btw
MWGNZ: can also play however you want
ZethRuss: sorry for backseating
lackingsanity: that's not on the queueing system, you just didnt click that ojne
LordZarano: !advice
LRRbot: I advise against disposing of Paul.
MWGNZ: ^
NightBook1: back seating is way to tempting, which is why i generaly try to watch later to prevent myself from doing that
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wildpeaks: canals everywhere
raulghoulia: And despair
goatprince: I be holdin' my works
wildpeaks: like the timelapse in Frostpunk, this is the real reward
DoodlestheGreat: I saw a 🦀
WiJohn: Those crabs are worryingly large
StageMgrRob: Question, came in late. Are the maps randomly generated?
SnowBuddy18: it's an anti-city builder
jessicaengle: Reality not so much about our entertainment, turns out
Laserbeaks_Fury: I do think the maps are generated
mishrasbauble: surgeon simulator is famed for being a very accurate portrayal of being in an OR
TheThirdTail: The engineering mode really only makes it more "puzzle mode" by arbitrarily restricting your resources
FacelessManAboutTown: Simulator? I hardly knew her
Rourke9: actual simulators tend to not be very fun as a game, with very few exception
BurgerGamer: I would love a game that tries to actually simulate the complexities of ecology and just becomes desperately trying to juggle hundreds of plates in hopes they hit equilibrium somehow
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DoodlestheGreat: The Cam Who Planted Trees.
Rourke9: yea, it is, as a lot of art, a thought experiment with a goal
DEATHlikescats: This is solar punk aspirational goodness
BrindleBoar: yes, but have we simulated that microsecond correctly - no, we have not.
Laserbeaks_Fury: We don't even *have* all the variable
Paranundrox: We don't understand the system enough to even begin to simulate it
MWGNZ: just listing the variables would take lifetimes
Paranundrox: Even before asking if we have the computer power to process it
Laserbeaks_Fury: Think Harry Seldon
Paranundrox: We don't even know the ingredients in the apple pie
Rourke9: shudder
DEATHlikescats: Diatom sim
TheThirdTail: _Cries in fluid dynamics_
Laserbeaks_Fury: SimUncity
mishrasbauble: in order to simulate the universe from scratch, you must first build a city builder
DEATHlikescats: Build your glass skin
Rourke9: NO
mishrasbauble: oh hey i love that book!
Tangsm: I've worked in a microbio lab. It involves a lot of crying and begging.
Creideiki_SE:
https://openworm.org/ : "OpenWorm is an open source project dedicated to creating the first virtual organism in a computer."
betweenmyself: It can be difficult to accurately simulate an N64… And that’s something manmade, that we nominally understand.
BurgerGamer:
its just three bodies, cam, how hard could it be 
LordZarano: Weather sims are already SUPER hard, and ecology depends very heavily on weather
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CmdrMadMoe: Now we can make micro meat tubes to simulate organs!
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Laserbeaks_Fury: Why do you think nothing can go faster than the speed of light? It's a work around to prevent pop-in
wildpeaks: now they moved on to "we're 5 years away from AGI"
MWGNZ: these screens are nice and relaxing, like an old screensaver
Cptasparagus: i do cell and tissue research, the number of people who talk about organoids as the second coming of christ when it comes to modeling organisms is flabbergasting. And organoids are literally just balls of a few types of cells grown in a sphere.
DEATHlikescats: It is a middle finger to environmental apathy
Laserbeaks_Fury: And then we re-introduce Humans and fuck it all up again
Rourke9: yea knowing about rain made it way more chill
CmdrMadMoe: @Cptasparagus they seem way more useful for specific tissues than any whole-ass organism
Rourke9: That applies to a lot of things. Its an important perspective
DEATHlikescats: This gives crumbs of hope for a different future
Laserbeaks_Fury: This really is Zero Dawn
wildpeaks:
@Laserbeaks_Fury ha, I'm literally playing it right now 
GhostValv:

TheThirdTail: "We'll call it a rock hopper!" "Oooooooh!"
MerlotMage: I'm going through something personal that is going to take a LOT of work on personal growth. This stream is giving me hope. And a few little tears.
DEATHlikescats: @laserbeaks_fury yas!
Laserbeaks_Fury: BIGGER PARACHUTE
DEATHlikescats: @merlotmage sometimes a tiny spark of hope is just enough to keep you going. 💗
Rourke9: whales!!
BrindleBoar: look sometimes you gotta make a big bouncy ball
wildpeaks: whale plaid
Twilight_Spark:

KeytarCat: @BrindleBoar We learned that in Trine!
MerlotMage: @DEATHlikescats Every little bit helps. It's never too late.
Rourke9: We built this world. We can build another
GhostValv:
just add some corn starch to the atmosphere to make it thicker 
DEATHlikescats:
@merlotmage truly
LordZarano: Apollo 8
Creideiki_SE: December 24, 1968, during the Apollo 8 mission
DEATHlikescats: @ghostvalv agar agar air
goatprince: the front fell off outside of the environment, tho
BrindleBoar: Adam also did not know during his stream this morning. So we'll all find out.
Twilight_Spark: Wow
GhostValv: D:
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Rourke9:
thanks for this stream 
DEATHlikescats: You held down mid admirably
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dumbo3k: @goatprince it's ok, we towed it outside the environment
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Cori I saw your solo kills in mid and appreciated it 
KV1NN4: Why not.. More Terra Nill?
KV1NN4: or 'Hoa'. heather recently uploaded her playthru of it
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