Neddy471: Oh, that's a hard push.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @adept_nekomancer I think the difference between some of the flying Phyrexians and flying Eldrazi minions is just the Phyrexians teeth are all pointed outward and the minions have teeth that you can't understand
GreatGodOm: James, thanks again for the Commander precon you gave me at Barcelona. It was great and unexpected.
definenull: never mind never punished
kumatsu: just like we drew it up
AzaleaCloud: One more land! One more land!
Thefluffiestguineapig: @AzaleaCloud This is the time where James's curse is a secret gift
kumatsu: wow, Adam's so nice and selfless, what a great guy
AzaleaCloud: @Thefluffiestguineapig Feel like that's been most games this stream.
sandmaelstrom: Shenanigans incoming
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Thefluffiestguineapig: @kumatsu I mean real talk he seems to be in a lot of ways but in playing games he can be Zangeif on an unprepared player
GreatGodOm: @KingOfDoma Thanks for the gift sub!
Thefluffiestguineapig: @AzaleaCloud Since a curse is constant sometimes it can have the opposite effects
KingOfDoma: Small Gods is my favorite standalone Pratchett book
GreatGodOm: I'm just getting all the prezzies!
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also this double Thinking Hard face while silent is a very good representation of some moods
GreatGodOm: @KingOfDoma Mine too.
kumatsu: we get so many counters off Dreadknight
KingOfDoma: The speech on the beach? Ugh. Gets me every time
definenull: Ah.
GreatGodOm: @KingOfDoma My favourite scene, is the one in which Om and Brutha first meet. I find it to quintessentially Pratchett.
Thefluffiestguineapig: This deck clearly takes more thought for them to pilot than the effortlessness of the Prismari Jank Supreme from last draft
GreatGodOm: to be*
AzaleaCloud:
AzaleaCloud:
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WalrusOntheCourt: Well done!
Thefluffiestguineapig: Good times with the fun decks!
GapFiller: !next
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Thefluffiestguineapig: Oh man, Ian is doing a PS4 controller update (?)
Kramburger: Mother FUCKER
loufghyslaufey: Weh?
GapFiller:
strong start
BrindleBoar: rood
korvys: Last time chat motherfucker
kumatsu: Adam's hair is S-tier
GapFiller: ADam of all people to spring that on even
Darleysam: can't believe Milk made a whole new account just to say that
djalternative: jesus. what an enterance
TemporallyAwry:
Wooh 
GapFiller: speaking of CP+ no episode this week right?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also just let some of his rage at games that aren't card games out
djalternative: we have a whole list of card games that Wheeler hasn't played
GapFiller: heard it wasnt on this week cz too many of the relevant people are still away
ReachW: Thanks for stream, have a good one all, and rest well!
Kuhfeek: Thanks!
Thefluffiestguineapig: !next
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tod_vom_himmel: afam ur already here lets just go right into oki oki
tod_vom_himmel: adam*
Thefluffiestguineapig: And now we descend/transcend into TTSF where the nonsense really fits that word literally
zimmercj:
chat
Thefluffiestguineapig: That emote was one of my 10 year old cats last night getting kitten level zoomies at about 1am careening around and skidding into things on the hardwood at top speed
Thefluffiestguineapig: Does anyone know if Ian is transmitting from the Moonbase proper or his mind palace (his and Cori's place) today?
tod_vom_himmel: im not a fan of ians mind palace personally
tod_vom_himmel: its a bit too ian for me
Juliamon: James said Moonbase
tod_vom_himmel: i can only take so much ian at a time
TemporallyAwry:
If you can't be yourself in you're own mind-palace, what's the point of having one 
Thefluffiestguineapig: When Heather makes a guest appearance is helps temper things
Thefluffiestguineapig: I would argue Ian is maximally himself at all times and has cultivated a space to do so. We sometimes are bemused by it and sometimes face palm but sometimes it's transcendent
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Thefluffiestguineapig: Also seeing Ian being so unapologeticly himself and having supportive friends gives me hope
KeytarCat: @Thefluffiestguineapig Right!? I aspire to both be and have that kind of friendships
Thefluffiestguineapig: But enough with the real feelings talk, today a controller gets the treatment many of the headphones got
DrakoniteDev: @Thefluffiestguineapig now I'm scared
Thefluffiestguineapig: @KeytarCat Seriously one of my very real goals in life
Thefluffiestguineapig: @DrakoniteDev I mean, he had an electronic being tinkered with on the schedule. That wasn't frightening?
KeytarCat: @DrakoniteDev I was going to make a bottom surgery joke, I'm not sure which is better. worse?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Is Ian alone in his laboratory like Niv Mizzet with Paul as his Raul Zarek today or does he have a cohost on camera?
SquidVorb: I guess.... C-ing is believing
Thefluffiestguineapig: @KeytarCat I think a convincing argument could be made either completely better or utterly worse but there is no middle ground
Thefluffiestguineapig: What am I saying, this is TTSF, middle ground does not exist
KeytarCat: the best split the room answers!
Thefluffiestguineapig: All the stream theme songs and intros are so good
DoodlestheGreat: o7
Thefluffiestguineapig: o7 tie today!
DoodlestheGreat: HIYA PAUL!
niccus: free monomers?!
Thefluffiestguineapig: Hello observer of record Paul!
Texan_Reverend: !patreon
terribleplan: Check your Patreon account, they apparently switched banks or something and some payments may have gotten messed up...
Texan_Reverend: !store
Thefluffiestguineapig: @terribleplan They did a tax haven thing and moved billing to Dublin
DrakoniteDev:
Juliamon: !fangamer
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terribleplan: @Thefluffiestguineapig yeah, that
SquidVorb: I can't believe the PS4 is a DECADE old
Thefluffiestguineapig: You were sorely missed at the bird stream yesterday Ian, how are the crows?
Viowof: wait, it worked natively at launch?
SquidVorb: Oh wow, didn't know that
Viowof: i swear i had to use DS4 software to get it to work on Windows
SnackPak_: I hack on a usb to an original xbox controller, too
SquidVorb: Ahh, good ol XBMC
LadyAiluros: Someone wrote 360 drivers for Mac
LadyAiluros: thankfully
DrakoniteDev: the controllers were not usb on ps2 though (and using the usb ports on the ps2 was a pita... source: I actually wrote usb drivers for a ps2 game)
TwitchTVsFrank: Micro b sucks
SquidVorb: Yep, my JBL speaker's microUSB port just died last week
SquidVorb: Sucks ass
Thefluffiestguineapig: My guess is they stopped having those ports is for the purpose of progress without true purpose. Progress to put in a press release
LurkerSpine: Hall Effect Joysticks!
OhaiMireiya: hurro frens =3
KeytarCat: hewwo!
SquidVorb: Ooh
GlennSeto: Ironically, the Wii U Pro and PS3 controllers held up very well, with the older/chunkier standard.
Arclight_Dynamo: All I can think of is the *horrible* thing that happened to the cords of my PS2 controllers. Wrapping them around the things to store them just straight ruined them.
Texan_Reverend: BTW Paul, Ian is much quieter than you. Perhaps his mic is low on his tie?
DrakoniteDev:
fun fact: micro-usb was originally designed to be MUCH more rugged than mini-usb, but manufacturers complained it made assembly too expensive so a cheaper version of the connector was designed 
Viowof: thankfully we got usb-c now
GlennSeto: Oh, are we putting in a C port?
GlennSeto: yippie
SnackPak_:
Nigouki: In Studio C we only allow USB C
SymphonicLolita: oooh aaah
iris_of_ether: Antistatic bag got that Regular Crispy folley
DoodlestheGreat:
( 
)-b
LurkerSpine: how did it take so long to design usb C
RealGamerCow: is USB-C really that much stronger?
LoadingReadyRun: @Texan_Reverend is Ian's volume better now?
DoodlestheGreat: It's good.
SquidVorb: cuh
Texan_Reverend: Yes, a bit better. I'll let you know when you talk next whether you're louder.
DrakoniteDev: @RealGamerCow depends on the style of micro-usb connector, but generally yeah, usb-c is much better
Texan_Reverend: Yes, balance is good now. Thanks, Paul.
GlennSeto:
Will you link the component on the YT VOD? 
KeytarCat: Gah, what a professional! sound checked and YT will never know!
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: Heck yeah. Getting that working for both models is a nice touch
bytecaster: It makes the bits touch better!
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Viowof: this one is a straight friction plug?
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GlennSeto: oh noooo
KeytarCat: It's like a cooking show!
DoodlestheGreat: Here's a woozle, his name is Peanut.
TemporallyAwry: "De-Shelled Controllers" is a weird concept.
jessieimproved: It's a little less wasteful at least
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TemporallyAwry I got useful advice that you can put the shells in a cheesecloth bag and use it to give your next controller deeper flavor
bytecaster: Maybe those instruction videos could be funnier? Great colab opportunity right there!
bytecaster: The "light attack" button is in fact the first thing that gave out on my most used controller.
SymphonicLolita: fromsoft releases a new game and suddenly everyone needs a new R1 button
SnackPak_: sure are
Thefluffiestguineapig: Question for the chat, is there a list of all the varied stuff Ian and co have done on TTSF? I want to check before I make any suggestion
Juliamon: Thefluffiestguineapig Check the wiki!
Seagulyus: they are "security screws" Nintendo is the only one that uses it in gaming
TemporallyAwry: Dang, it's out of stock --- I'm going to need to do this to revive my favorite controller.
Thefluffiestguineapig: I honestly would have been shocked if Nintendo didn't have specialty screws
DrakoniteDev: nintendo has not created any bits. apple used to use triwing for a while but I forgot on what
Jtigwell: Paul don't tease me like that
Jtigwell: Just the thought!
SquidVorb: Nintendo used to have a special one called the Gamebit
Viowof: i see the screwdriver is microusb
Arclight_Dynamo: Wiki says triwing screws originated in the aerospace industry: "The design was adopted by some parts of the aerospace industry, led by Lockheed in the early 1970s on the L-1011, but met with mixed results due to complaints of insert damage during installation. McDonnell Douglas also used this as a primary fastener on its commercial aircraft. British Aerospace and Airbus are also users of this fastener."
bytecaster: Mhm, skin screw
Seagulyus: @Thefluffiestguineapig you dont use specialty screws, you just use less common ones, otherwise it balloons cost exponentially
TemporallyAwry:
So - when are we upgrading the screw-driver to a USB-C? 
SnackPak_: finger salsa
Nigouki: We're gonna recover a lot of biological material in the process aren't we
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Juliamon Awesome, thanks. I don't want to make a suggestion that has already been done or done basically but slightly different
adambomb625: What's a robertson screw?
trebuchetboy: What kind of screwdriver is he using?
Seagulyus: manufacturing your own screws requires special machinery
Arclight_Dynamo: @adambomb625 A Canadian screw type. Square hole.
BrowneePoints: As a former GameStop employee, thanks for bringing back repressed memories Paul
SymphonicLolita: the robertson goes in the square hole!
LordZarano:
@SymphonicLolita 
DrakoniteDev: @SquidVorb fun fact: it is actually called a line bit. first electronics company I know of to use it was phillips. both nintendo and sega used it for numerous years. (holy carp I have researched those dumb gamebits a lot)
LadyAiluros: ruh roh
GlennSeto: I hate that step.
LadyAiluros: I hate those types of connectors. Borked so many laptop keyboards
DoodlestheGreat: Remember: Three rights make a left.
tod_vom_himmel: something about omelettes and breaking eggs
InsaneVioletMage: Wow I want that screwdriver
bytecaster: This is what is professionally know as the "charging thingy"
DrakoniteDev: usb also used for pairing on ps4
tod_vom_himmel: so why are we breaking this conroller
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: Just finished a 2 day long travel journey to Vancouver island from the UK. This is wonderful to relax.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Obvious solutions fetén require Crossing industry norms and established “things that we do”
bytecaster: There are a significant amount of people that recoil at the very notion of cables, which annoys me to no end.
Seagulyus: @tod_vom_himmel replacing broken charge port with a type C one
DrakoniteDev: NFC is kind of expensive to add to a device
SymphonicLolita: ian's replacing the micro-usb port with USB-C
LoadingReadyRun: @NarwhalsInATrenchcoat welcome to the Island!
TemporallyAwry:
@bytecaster Have you suggested un-coiled cables for them?
tod_vom_himmel: that seems... difficult? isnt usb like, totally different and has WAY more connections
tod_vom_himmel: or he ignoring all the wires but the power
Juliamon: tod_vom_himmel It already uses Micro-USB
tod_vom_himmel: sorry meant usbc
Seagulyus: @tod_vom_himmel its a specialty made USB-C port for this specific purpose
DoodlestheGreat: ~/Diddle diddle dumpling, my son Tom, one screw off and one screw on.../~
tod_vom_himmel: usbc is alot more signal wires than standard usb
tod_vom_himmel: oh okay
DrakoniteDev: @tod_vom_himmel usb-c connectors can be wires for use as usb-2.0, as drop in replacement for micro-usb
bytecaster: This is also the reason there can be USB-C cables that are very slow and can't be used for power delivery.
tod_vom_himmel: oh so a company jsut makes a whole usbc faughter board? is htat what im seeing?
tod_vom_himmel: thats actually really cool
DrakoniteDev: yep
tod_vom_himmel: daughter board*
Viowof: you can probably find specialty drop-in replacement boards for pretty much anything these days
KeytarCat: bum baduduh
Seagulyus: @tod_vom_himmel single person from the sounds of things but yeah
Akaiatana: Big files are very 2023.
tod_vom_himmel: thats pretty awesome tbh
SquidVorb: Smaller file sizes are always better
tod_vom_himmel: i thought ian was gonna be in here trying to micro solder 30 tiny wires to a board lol
bytecaster: No extra skin space.
Juliamon: haha no, this is a fairly easy hack
Arclight_Dynamo: Any reason to do this from the inside rather than the outside?
KeytarCat: we're squaring the micro port?
Viowof: @Arclight_Dynamo probably better egronomics
tod_vom_himmel: need a sharp chisel for that one not a file but i guess this is what hes got
SymphonicLolita: the first one is always the martyr
Juliamon: also, for those wondering, this week's Checkpoint is online now
KeytarCat:
@tod_vom_himmel I was just thinking that 
I've never touched a chisel
DoodlestheGreat: Thankee.
Seagulyus: @Juliamon thanks for letting us know!
bytecaster: Always remember to zip your fresh files if you are not using them immediately, that way they keep longer!
Viowof: the plastic had probably degraded from years of usb cord weight
Viowof: slightly.
Juliamon: Plastic is impressive
SquidVorb: Always test fit your holes
TheAwkes: Plastic is a whole *family* of materials, not some monolithic thing. And the name plastic doesn't have that reality built in quite like the word metal does.
LordZarano: Steel too can be many different things
Arclight_Dynamo: Heck, metals aren't even the same *element*, often.
bytecaster: or one element
Arclight_Dynamo: I've read a little about the difference between iron and steel, and I don't know enough to understand it... but I know enough to suspect steel isn't real - it's all just types of iron.
DrakoniteDev:
given the physics definition of "plastic", metal can also become plastic
ObjectPermanence: just dremel it already!!!
Seagulyus: @Arclight_Dynamo do you want a really basic explanation as someone with an engineering degree?
Arclight_Dynamo: @Seagulyus Sure!
SquidVorb: hole!
LordZarano: Still curious how plastic got the name plastic given how brittle most early plastics were
TheAwkes: @Arclight_Dynamo At a very high level, and in a way that still explains most of it representatively, it's just carbon content that separates them.
rubikdarkwill: Back together AND CHARGING
bytecaster: Or we could just call it done here!
Seagulyus: so Steel is iron with mixed in elements - namely carbon. there is many types of steel depending on carbon amount AND cooling time
Arclight_Dynamo: @TheAwkes See, that's the level of understanding I'm at, and I get hung up on "It's iron if there's too little carbon, then it's steel, then it's iron again if there's too much carbon. Steel isn't real."
TheAwkes: @Arclight_Dynamo Yes. And just accepting that is plenty.
DrakoniteDev: 70% great for medical use... not so much for use as a cleaning solvent.
Arclight_Dynamo:
@Seagulyus Yep! But, uh, see above. 
OhaiMireiya: got 99 problems, but evaporation ain't 1
LordZarano: Would calling steel "iron carbide" be accurate?
KeytarCat: Steel is more of a method than a material
Viowof: probably the best way to think about it is that iron is an element and steel is an alloy
Seagulyus: @Arclight_Dynamo the main difference is that Steel has impurities embedded in it that causes shockwaves moving through the atoms to be interupted
bytecaster: @KeytarCat That sounds like: "You know, steel is more of a state of mind, really"
Seagulyus: @LordZarano no, its trapped impurities not a chemical reaction
Thefluffiestguineapig: @DrakoniteDev Yeah, it can demonstrate the exact tolerances of the material you are attempting to clean and how you have exceeded them
Arclight_Dynamo: @Seagulyus Ah-ha! Okay, that's very interesting.
TheAwkes: @Seagulyus It's both. (My Engineering degree is in Materials Engineering) You don't get those impurities without chemical reactions.
Seagulyus: @TheAwkes ah that wasn't explained to me in that way
tod_vom_himmel: we lost ian
OhaiMireiya: check behind the couch
v_nome: Witchcraft!
tod_vom_himmel: the usbc is too strong
Viowof: magnets, how do they work
tod_vom_himmel: all the 5g radiation
Morrigan9: ian is usbc powered
Thefluffiestguineapig: I mean, of anyone it could happen to, it would be Ian
Viowof: @Morrigan9 that explains so much
bytecaster: At the very least, it is very funny
DaxStrife: Just waiting for Beej to rise up from under the desk for some reason.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Viowof It's in his beard
Brozard: Ian completed the circuit
Ryxiene:
adept_nekomancer: It has a USB-C allergy
saucemaster5000: one of thost anatomy lessons not covered by the "knee bone connected to the etc." song
Seagulyus: @Arclight_Dynamo it is the same reason they hammer the hot steel. strain hardening. adds microscopic holes that absorbs shocks the same way
Arclight_Dynamo: If you say something and there isn't a Chat to hear it, there's no point.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Brozard The circuit being him saying "welcome to the highlight reel" on TTSF
OhaiMireiya: *piano music plays* silent movie title "welcome to the highlight reel"
Arclight_Dynamo: @Seagulyus Well, now I want to know if you can start with something that would be considered Not Steel, then hit it with a hammer enough for it to be steel.
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KeytarCat: Impurities, in the sense we're talking, generally make it harder for things to affect a material, from what I understand. It takes more heat to boil, more cold to freeze, more shock to fracture. It's like steel being stronger than iron and icy roads melting with salt
Seagulyus: @Arclight_Dynamo eh needs carbon in it first. then you hit it to make it stronger
Seagulyus: then you absolutely SHOCK it by dunking it in water
TheAwkes:
@Arclight_Dynamo I've got a couple textbooks you could borrow to learn that 
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Seagulyus Yup, either that or it shatters
Arclight_Dynamo: @Seagulyus Right. But could you have iron and carbon - wrough iron, say - then wang it enough for the stresses to make it steel?
DrakoniteDev: I love that proper installation of cpu plus cooler sounds like something breaks
SquidVorb: Oof
Arclight_Dynamo:
@TheAwkes Okay, fair. 
Nigouki: AM4?
tod_vom_himmel: happens all the time
tod_vom_himmel: gotta twist the cooler before pulling
tod_vom_himmel: gotta break the bond
TwitchTVsFrank: ^^
Thefluffiestguineapig: UM
Thefluffiestguineapig: That sounds SAFE
tod_vom_himmel: paul this sounds like a crime against computers
TwitchTVsFrank: A an amd heat sink
tod_vom_himmel: dont do this
Nigouki: Think of it as the knife into the eye scene from Mission Impossible 2
Seagulyus: @Arclight_Dynamo you would have to heat the iron enough to have some liquidity. at which point the carbon might get sucked in, THEN hit it
TemporallyAwry: I worked on a computer with that connector clip a month ago. It's exactly as terrifying as Paul is describing. Plus it's next to the RAM
Arclight_Dynamo:
@Seagulyus ...this answer pleases me.
omdorastrix: Gouging happened a non-zero amount of time
Thefluffiestguineapig: Improvements have been made is understatement of the night
Seagulyus: @Arclight_Dynamo btw this is why the "Japanese Katanas are so strong" meme happened. they accidentally made steel but didnt realize it, or so I've been told
Seagulyus: then the Europeans that came were REALLY surprised, eventually discovered steel and the katana became the meme sword of the internet
tod_vom_himmel: they didnt know what steel was
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Seagulyus I think the "accidentally" might be just European observers when they told the Japanese the Japanese didn't recognize it as steel
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Seagulyus: @tod_vom_himmel exactly, like I said it wa an accident
tod_vom_himmel: they just knew that if they made iron directly IN the charcoal, they got better iron
DoodlestheGreat: ROTATE YOUR OWL
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Thefluffiestguineapig: The amount of effort meant if it was an accident I want to have that kind of effort to "accidentally" get really good at a lot of skills for jobs
Arclight_Dynamo: Self-tapping screws into plastic is awful.
Seagulyus: @Thefluffiestguineapig they mixed bone in with the iron IIRC and the carbon in the bone mixed with the iron and made steel
bytecaster: Yeah, makes the controller much saver to open for laypeople!
DrakoniteDev: sony has some good engineers
tod_vom_himmel: @Thefluffiestguineapig i mean, it was barely good metal, some of the worst of its time, and took a massive amount of time to produce, i think thats not really an achievement, hte only reason it happened at all is because they were so insular
bytecaster: Metal Gear Solid 3 sure did
Seagulyus: yeah tod_vom_himmel 100%
bytecaster: Me too
DrakoniteDev: Gran turismo used analog buttons
DrakoniteDev: plenty of others too
Arclight_Dynamo: No, brain... "Analog elevator buttons."
SquidVorb: Does the web browser use it?
corianderd: im not gonna call you daddy ian
SnackPak_:
Daddy Ian? 
TemporallyAwry:
we're allowed to use "Daddy Ian" now? 
DaxStrife: The only good use of the touch pad was in Persona 5 Royal; you touch it while driving the car and Morgana purrs.
adept_nekomancer: Always remember to re-set your reset button.
KeytarCat: @Arclight_Dynamo singular button, infinite granularity! INFINITY HOTEL
DrakoniteDev: I'm still disappointed PS5 dropped the analog buttons
Arclight_Dynamo: @KeytarCat Someone get David Hilbert on the phone!
Thefluffiestguineapig: @tod_vom_himmel I mean if you are measuring things against each other without consideration of context then yes, the steel in Japan was worse quality than steel elsewhere in the world. Sorry, I am someone who does a lot of disabusing people of the notion that there is a forward march of civilization and technology as part of being an occasional GA
ElektroTal: the sony hardware team are the kings of overengineering hardware. see the poor forgotten vita, for instance
ElektroTal: which i hold was a phenomenal system to this day
bytecaster: Yeah, and all those intricate tape mechanisms
Thefluffiestguineapig: Just because it wasn't the best quality steel possible does not mean it was not an achievement
DrakoniteDev: if I stopped and thought about it I could probably come up with a dozen games that used the analog buttons in a potentially worthwhile way
tod_vom_himmel: i guess i just bring it up because japan was actively avoiding foreign influences that would have helped them produce better steel, and making this in stead lol
Seagulyus: @Thefluffiestguineapig definitely an achievement. but the quality of their iron was a bit part of the Japanese nation's descent into Empire in the 1940's
Thefluffiestguineapig: Ah Gaff tape, the thing that holds theaters together
Arclight_Dynamo: When Sony falls down, it's never because of bad engineering or manufacturing.
tod_vom_himmel: and even in the 40s their steel STILL sucked
DrakoniteDev: @Arclight_Dynamo you can't spell sony without ego!
Arclight_Dynamo: Like, Betamax only failed because the tapes weren't long enough to record an American football game.
tod_vom_himmel: nobody talks about how bad japanese armour plate was
Nigouki: are you sure you're not creating an insulating layer with the glue on top of the pins?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Seagulyus For sure I agree with that. The reason this is such a sore point for me is having to explain that the Maya writing system is not inferior to the Romans just because it didn't continue and we don't have all the records
Seagulyus: @Thefluffiestguineapig that is a mood actually. I wish you the best in your attempts
LadyAiluros: I keeep a pill bottle of qtips and a pill bottle of toothpicks in my kit at all time yeah
betweenmyself:
New product concept: small rods specifically designed to press in the “paper clip reset” buttons on carious devices, customized to the customer’s specifications. Absolutely useless but there will absolutely be somebody who will buy it. 
DrakoniteDev: fine tipped wooden awl
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Arclight_Dynamo Wasn't there also a concerted campaign by companies to make VHS succeed because it was cheaper
betweenmyself: *various devices
LordZarano: @Arclight_Dynamo At normal tape speeds it was also no better than VHS quality either
Arclight_Dynamo: @Thefluffiestguineapig Not really. It was only cheaper by the time home movie rentals became a thing because it had already won over Betamax.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Seagulyus Thanks, when I get tired of it I direct them to contact people in the real actual Classics department and let those people disabuse the undergrads of those notions
Arclight_Dynamo: @LordZarano Yep. Not to mention a lot of the "Beta was better" people are confusing Betamax with Betacam.
Seagulyus: wasn't the Betamax vs VHA a Technology Connections video?
Seagulyus: VHS*
Arclight_Dynamo: @Seagulyus Sure was! More than one, in fact.
bytecaster: Now that we relitigated this format war, what about HDDVD?
LordZarano: @Arclight_Dynamo Oh I see you've watched that Technology connection video too!
Thefluffiestguineapig: I don't have a dog in the Betamax vs VHS thing, mostly curious
Arclight_Dynamo:
@LordZarano Yup yup!
tod_vom_himmel: hddvd shoul have won
tod_vom_himmel: blu rays suck
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bytecaster: UMD should have won!
McGurganatorZX: heloooooooooo
Thefluffiestguineapig: I tend to assume many technologies where competition was functionally artificially eliminated are the result of hyper capitalism shennanigans
tod_vom_himmel: is UMD the PSP disc? lol
Thefluffiestguineapig: Hello McGugantorZX!
bytecaster: @tod_vom_himmel Sure is
betweenmyself: Gamecube proprietary minidisks should replace everything!
Thefluffiestguineapig: Welcome to the tinkering
tod_vom_himmel: got the PSP was such a sweet little thing
Arclight_Dynamo: @Thefluffiestguineapig A lot of the time, that's right. But with Beta vs. VHS, Sony just didn't make the tapes long enough.
LoadingReadyRun:
@bytecaster HDDVD's menu system *was HTML* that could have been so great
Thefluffiestguineapig: Was that beep in the stream?
Juliamon: the biggest disappointment of HD-DVD is that players never had a chance to become actually good
Juliamon: yes
Juliamon: we have a few HD-DVDs but we never watch them because the player is absolute ass
tod_vom_himmel: ian stop stripping pls
betweenmyself:
@thefluffiestguineapig the beep was inside you all along, you just didn’t believe hard enough in yourself
bytecaster: Believe in the beep that believes in you!
Arclight_Dynamo: Oh wow.
TheAwkes: Imagine how much better dev work for video-format games like Nightmare would be with HTML menus.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @betweenmyself No, I've known it was inside me for many years and only now have medical professionals believed me enough to give me things to help
ElektroTal: i feel it's very Ian to be at a party where multiple people have HD-DVDs
Juliamon: Imagine how much sooner we could have gotten the Season 11 physical release
LordZarano: And here we are looking at one of the main reasons Blu-Rays won - the PS4
Arclight_Dynamo: ^
tod_vom_himmel: true
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ElektroTal Isn't that just Desert Bus?
BrowneePoints: blame sony
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BrowneePoints: they threw more money at the fight
SquidVorb: Did Sony having their own movie studio have anything to do with BD winning?
Currynoodles13: is the conversion to usb c a custom board replacement? or did you retrofit a USB C socket on the existing PCB?
DoodlestheGreat: Disney's started phasing them out.
Juliamon: Currynoodles13 It's a custom daughterboard
BrowneePoints: Sony put a Blu Ray player in the PS3
Sethalidos: like all the format wars before them, the porn industry was a heavy influence in which format won
tod_vom_himmel: @Currynoodles13 custom daughterboard
Currynoodles13: @Juliamon thanks Julia!
BrowneePoints: and Sony made a bunch of backroom deals with movie companies
DillonEA: Somehow, Blu-ray authoring has never gotten easier with time
saucemaster5000: please give us physical media again... streaming is so bad for old movies/archival movies.... we've lost so mush
saucemaster5000: much
DillonEA: HTML + JavaScript would have been so much better than the Java-based solutions on Blu-ray
Thefluffiestguineapig: @saucemaster5000 This is why they won't
DoodlestheGreat: Or "Meet The Feebles."
Juliamon: Streaming just encourages companies to hold products hostage
TemporallyAwry:
Special Features 
bytecaster: I just want to be able to buy a friggin' H264 file without drm that I can save for myself.
tod_vom_himmel: they want streaming for the control
tod_vom_himmel: they can control what you can watch
BrowneePoints: marvel movies etc generally have special feature featurettes
Spades_Slicc: Anyone else remember the Shrek 2 Far Far Away Idol special feature?
BrowneePoints: but they aren't common anymore
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Spades_Slicc Holy shit, that brought back some memories
Juliamon: Spades_Slicc Probably got more viewing than the actual movie in our house
TemporallyAwry:
Getting dangerously close to some "what radicalized you" topics now 
saucemaster5000: also marvel is a big reason why we don't have these features anymore
Thefluffiestguineapig: Didn't Simon Cowl actually do a voice?
Arclight_Dynamo: The most recent thing I can recall that would have been extras on a disc are the Short Treks they put up for streaming.
Spades_Slicc: @Thefluffiestguineapig Not as a character, as himself
BrowneePoints: the D&D Movie Blu-Ray had a big thing of behind the features stuff
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Spades_Slicc Right, who if you didn't pick who he wanted he would sing some version of My Way
LordZarano: The Shrek 1 DVD had a program on it that let you redub the entire movie, that was great
Spades_Slicc: Remember kids, Simon Cowl is canon to the Shrek expanded universe
betweenmyself:
@spades_slicc that presupposes that an “actual” Simon Cowl exists 
BrowneePoints: they're making fun of you cuz his last name is Cowell
Spades_Slicc: @betweenmyself Obviously every entertainer is creating a character that they perform, I'm saying that the persona of American Idol's Simon Cowl is canon to Shrek
Spades_Slicc: ah cowell
Spades_Slicc: oop
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Thefluffiestguineapig: Sorry, I think I started that misspelling
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also I don't think the American Idol persona is that far removed from his personality. He did Desert Island Disks and his luxury item was a mirror
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Juliamon: "First you try to use Nintendo screwdriver bits on me, now a Nintendo cable??"
Thefluffiestguineapig: They probably think the same of you Ian
BorealMage: Are there custom/aftermarket sticks on that controller?
Seagulyus: @BorealMage stick caps I think
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Seagulyus: they make tons of little caps that wrap around the top or clip on
bytecaster: Good ol' controller squeezing ASMR
BorealMage: The fancy controller for the PS5 that released earlier this year is really neat in that it's designed to swap out the whole joystick module super easily.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @bytecaster Now with no risk of gouging!
TemporallyAwry: Not just oil - >soak< the plastic so it continually re-oils itself.
betweenmyself: Field stripping a Dual Shock 4 while blindfolded?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @betweenmyself I feel like this could be a Crapshot
TemporallyAwry: I wonder if military drone-operators have to be able to service their controllers.
BirdSorcerer: yeah, putting the triggers and springs on the top and then squeezing the bottom back on is way easier for keeping the springs in the correct place
BrowneePoints: I had a friend in Avionics and I don't remember @TemporallyAwry
LoadingReadyRun: tbh I feel like a a Dual Shock controller breakdown and reassemble race would be a great event at a hacker convention
TemporallyAwry:
I also have an Uncle Bob 
Thefluffiestguineapig: It might be like GDQ where you end up with specialty categories like blindfolded, only multitool
betweenmyself:
Bob is my niece’s uncle…
Juliamon: Spring is gone, it's summer now
Nigouki: it went SPROING into the nether
BorealMage: Or can it?
Nigouki: is it trapped in the laptop keyboard gaps?
omdorastrix: Is that it on the mat btween the handles of the upper shell?
neisan2112: Is the spider one of the soot helpers from Spirited Away?
BrowneePoints: Susuwatari? @neisan2112
betweenmyself: It’s embedded in the ceiling… It’s the new cieling egg.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @neisan2112 No because then it would bring Ian all the tiny parts he is looking for and Cam all the sprues for his minis
omdorastrix: Criling spring
betweenmyself:
* “ceiling”… got it right 50% of the time.
TemporallyAwry:
Someday we'll have clicky-switches for our controllers too 
Liliturra: @TemporallyAwry oo that sounds lovely
DrakoniteDev: gamepads with clicky facebuttons exist. no one likes them
Liliturra: @DrakoniteDev how come?
betweenmyself: There are worse things, like squishy face buttons that catch on the controller facade if you push them too hard.
TemporallyAwry: I've mentioned it before, but I feel like at least 10% of I.T. knowledge, is knowing the right amount of force to "do it, not break it" - and it's wild.
DrakoniteDev: @Liliturra they feel really bad. they come off feeling cheap and sometimes unresponsive
rubikdarkwill: Yeah, I got that way with changing bearings in some brands of angle grinders
bytecaster: Please ask the owl for consent before you disassemble it!
rubikdarkwill: or putting new cables on them
Liliturra: @DrakoniteDev that's a shame, I feel like if it was done well it would be awesome
Thefluffiestguineapig: My dream is controllers that aren't a horrible pain in the ass to sanitize and clean if you get them second hand. I bought my switch second hand and the x has only gotten marginally less sticky with repeated cleanings and wipedowns with things that won't damage it
betweenmyself: Honestly there are so many examples of not just poor, but downright *bad* controller designs.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @betweenmyself Designs not made with intensive or extensive use or a user in mind
betweenmyself: @thefluffiestguineapig exactly
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CastleOtranto: Fun Fact, chat: the Black Lotus behind Ian came from the July 1996 issue of Scrye magazine.
Nigouki: did we just lubricate the controller seams with our finger goo by taking it apart?
betweenmyself: @thefluffiestguineapig and beyond just the meme fodder of the Power Glove and Wu Tang controller. Just poorly thought out things like the Turbo Touch 360
Thefluffiestguineapig: @betweenmyself Or things that don't take small hands like mine, or long fingers, or short fingers or big hands into account.
Thefluffiestguineapig: For varying definitions of each of those adjectives
betweenmyself: @thefluffiestguineapig indeed
TheDailyMapleSyrup: time to stretch fluids & swap legs
Thefluffiestguineapig: Mighty in goodwill!
tod_vom_himmel: "sucessfully"
Ryxiene:
serramarkov: We are live...
betweenmyself:
So dusty 
bytecaster: How dare you remind me of that, Paul!
Thefluffiestguineapig: As someone with psoriasis I often get to experience that earlier than others
Morrigan9: Oh, localization
betweenmyself: When you realize just how disgusting you truly are: at-home controller repair.
EdibleDragon: I didn't know there's a new Miyazaki movie
EdibleDragon: So this tracks
Nigouki: It's Miyazaki's last, last, last, LAST movie. For real this time.
betweenmyself: Yes, allow the audience to set their own wildly ludicrous expectations… Sounds like what I would do.
EdibleDragon: Until Miyazaki's son makes another movie and he has to make another one out of pure disgust
Spades_Slicc: Italians on that alternia nonsense
CururuGuasu: So Japanese anime like titles
CururuGuasu: Or light novel titles
BoFatDis: yes we do
Thefluffiestguineapig: That sound has utterly fascinated one of my cats
BoFatDis: but mostly in Poland we get original title but then add weird secondary title
Thefluffiestguineapig: She is determined to find the source
CururuGuasu: Rasp ASMR
BoFatDis: weird translated titles were more of a 90s thing
Juliamon: Ashes? Bones?
iondream: the silo series
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BoFatDis One of the podcasts I listen to is called Uy Que Horror and they have a thing every episode where they pick an english horror movie and figure out the title in Spanish and Portugese and if it's different in Spain than in Latin America and if it's different in different countries
BoFatDis: I mean Die Hard series in Poland became Szklana Pułapka (which can be translated into Glass Trap)
SnackPak_:
Juliamon:
CururuGuasu: Idioms are hard
Thefluffiestguineapig: @CururuGuasu And translating them in a way that makes any sense often impossible
BoFatDis: yeah, they sure are
BoFatDis: I don't fault anyone for that
BoFatDis: but I don't understand how Dirty Dancing became "Spinning Sex"
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BoFatDis I mean
Thefluffiestguineapig: That is more about the content of the movie and removing artifice
BoFatDis: I guess
CururuGuasu: I once tried to explain “I feel like chicken tonight” to a Spanish speaker who was learning English. “Siento combo un pollo esta noche” isn’t quite the same thing
DrakoniteDev: does anyone else get a black frame flicker every so often?
BoFatDis: Maybe I am a bit more of an artistic guy with my titles
BoFatDis: @DrakoniteDev yeah, I though it was refresh of my screen
Thefluffiestguineapig: For me I really enjoy listening to people from different countries that technically share a language compare idioms
BoFatDis: Any favorites? In Poland we have a lot of idioms which don't really translate into any other language, but a lot of them are vulgar(and in Polish we have very colorful list of curses)
DrakoniteDev: subtitles usually seem to be a more literal translation, though I've seen a few shows lately that had two sets of subs, one the literal translation and the other matching the dub exactly
Thefluffiestguineapig: Or trying to explain how much influence the presence or lack of a neuter gender has on the entire concept of gender for a culture. Or the presence or lack of a particular tense literally changing planning skill
betweenmyself: So if you just name your movie using a rough English to Spanish transliteration of you original title concept, would they bother to try to replace they title with unnecessarily explicit descriptions of the plot hook?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BoFatDis Oh, the best are often either secretly vulgar or vulgar on the surface with a benign meaning.
BoFatDis: oh yeah, but we are not very secretive with our vulgarisms
Thefluffiestguineapig: @betweenmyself Some do, some don't. Like the Exorcism is La Exoercisma if I remember correctly but some of them have better titles in Spanish because instead of being linked to the series they just give them a title suited to the movie
niccus: afaict the finnish language is half idioms
Ebthing: howdy how goes the modding, using a usb-c pd board or soldering directly inplace on the 5v and gnd?
niccus: equivalent exchange of problems
betweenmyself:
@thefluffiestguineapig I suppose that’s better than allowing them to rename it something like “girl watching broken television announces their arrival”
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BoFatDis Honestly the overbearing shadow of the Reformations and all that entailed means English vulgarisms are often either specific to a profession, region or just uselessly oblique
BoFatDis: @Thefluffiestguineapig we have similar things here. Noun titles usually keep the meaning like The Nun becomes Zakonnica et cetera, it becomes weird when the title has not that much to do with the actual content of a movie
DrakoniteDev: some capacitive goo on the track pad?
gypocalypse: scherodingers input
BoFatDis: well, it cannot be Shroedinger, it is currently observed
LordZarano: @Ebthing Using a dedicated board that someone makes
Thefluffiestguineapig: @betweenmyself For sure, I don't have the list on hand, but if you google Uy Que Horror they likely have a list somewhere. The podcast is mostly in English with occasional Spanish idioms or them trying to remember the English vocab word (they were both raised in various Central and South American countries and first met in Bolivia if memory serves) but they are good about putting things online in organized fashion
Ebthing: @LordZarano ah would certainly make life easier
Thefluffiestguineapig: VICTORY!
NotCainNorAbel:
LordZarano:
Nice!
TheWriterAleph:
gypocalypse: Party time!!!
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BoFatDis Even if the start point is observed the method of transmission is not, so Schroedinger might still apply (I do not understand the principle well enough to know
SnackPak_:
SymphonicLolita:
TheWriterAleph: modern solutions, etc
SquidVorb:
Thefluffiestguineapig: The moment of learned disappointment leading to utter delight
tod_vom_himmel: and then dont break the ribbon cable
BoFatDis: @Thefluffiestguineapig yeah, I also don't have perfect understanding of it, even though I had theoretical physics in Uni but that was almost 5 years ago
BoFatDis: and it started with the premise that no one understands theoretical physics
DaxStrife: "When the skin..."
ANeMzero: a song made entirely out of the most cursed things Ian has said.
tod_vom_himmel: ian expects samples of that screwdriver buzzing, buts its really just gonna BE HIM SAYING THINGS
tod_vom_himmel: oops caps
DaxStrife: Ooh, that would make a good Venjent remix.
ANeMzero:
same thought
Thefluffiestguineapig: @BoFatDis Ah, those wonderful classes that start "ok, so we think this principal of ______ (fill in subject) probably explains this possibly but probably not)
BoFatDis: yeah. And I was studying Automation and Robotics, so it wasn't really our main subject, just a step removed from elective really
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ANeMzero So it would be 10 hours long or would there be individual tracks on the album for different streams/contexts?
tod_vom_himmel: jeez the motors for the vibration are so huge
gypocalypse: kink revealed
tod_vom_himmel: im used to cell phone vibration motors that are tiny little squares
ANeMzero: The Switch, Dualshock 5 and the Oculus Touch controllers all use linear actuators for haptics as well
ANeMzero: Oh, and the Steam controller / Steam Deck
LordZarano: Taptic, as invented by Valve. For the Steam Controller
tod_vom_himmel: i was gonna ask what haptics the steam decks touch pads used
tod_vom_himmel: cause those are super good feeling to use
Thefluffiestguineapig: Ian's surpised "Oh, surprise here!"
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BoFatDis: That's why we love him, he speaks his mind
tod_vom_himmel: well thats gotta go in the quotes
ANeMzero: @tod_vom_himmel Yeah, the deck haptics are basically identical to the steam controller. It even does the same trick as the steam controller of using them for the start up sound..
LordZarano: Also, only apple has the weird proprietary name for it, everybody else just calls it HD rumble
Thefluffiestguineapig: Throwing the thing aside
BoFatDis: @LordZarano isn't that basically all of Apple? they just take other companies' solutions, name it something different and pretend they came up with it and it's revolutionary
DrakoniteDev: scraping, not so much filing
LordZarano: @BoFatDis Yes, MKBHD has a great video about this
gypocalypse: this converstaion has included: Banging, excitment, sitting, new hotness and vibrations
Ebthing: weird fact GME (radio manufacture) has a radio that uses the same battery as the ps4 controller and they can be interchanged if needed
BoFatDis: I mean I remember presentations for... I think it was iPhone 9 or 10, when they introduced notchless screens and said it was first of the kind. When Android phones were using that design already for three generations
LordZarano: @BoFatDis Oh the holepunch?
BoFatDis: @LordZarano maybe? not fully sure, I absorb Apple things through a filter of parodies and stuff
SquidVorb: Someone's done it for AirPods
Raincoast_Bear:
This isn't Baldur's Gate 3? ?
DrakoniteDev: earlier this year I was seeing a lot of apple ads suggesting they had just invented multitasking
ANeMzero: Miniaturization thankfully doesn't matter for controllers that still have to fit a human hand.
Arclight_Dynamo: I mean, it's not a problem with PCs?
BoFatDis: like human multitasking? or processing multitasking?
ANeMzero: You just get more space
LordZarano: @BoFatDis Holepunch is what it's called on Android. On iPhone it's a "Dynamic Island"
loufghyslaufey: Computers are no longer the same computers conceptually!? (shocked gasping) Wait, for real?
DrakoniteDev: @BoFatDis multiple processes
BoFatDis: oh, okay, good to know, never knew the name
TwitchTVsFrank: As far as i know the company doing bs serial locking is apple
LoadingReadyRun:
I find that Apple does take and rename ideas from other companies in the industry, but their version is often a much better version of that feature
Arclight_Dynamo: The last good Apple product was the Apple ][. Fite me.
Ebthing: @Arclight_Dynamo idk the 2004 xserves were pretty good
Nigouki: browsing r/LilGrabbies for possible assistants
Sethalidos: Ian
DrakoniteDev: @LoadingReadyRun I would strongly disagree with the idea apple's version is usually better, but we all get our opinions.
BoFatDis: @LoadingReadyRun is it? I won't say that I have a lot of experience with Apple product, but my sister uses a lot of their products and they seem to be just more quickly becoming obsolete, not really with much difference in performance
SmithKurosaki: How goes the surgery
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BoFatDis: one patient in need of follow up transplant, but other than that, success
DrakoniteDev:
"uncle ian" ... I think I'm older than you?
Molladia: Um.... R1 and L1 buttons missing?
Ebthing: uncle ian needs you click your buttons, posters
TheDailyMapleSyrup: Uncle Ian says long live Bibendum
BoFatDis: @Molladia you can click them in after closing the case
DrakoniteDev: @Molladia intensional
NotCainNorAbel: The player 2 controller
DrakoniteDev: intentional*
Ebthing: real fake usbs
NotCainNorAbel: enough lube and all ports are USB ports
Liliturra: oo my laptop is like that too. it sucks
epsilon_vee:
usb-a plug goes in the square hole
BoFatDis: there is a lot of persuasion required in connecting Ethernet plug into USB-C port though
Liliturra: @epsilon_vee ethernet goes in the? that's right in the square hole
betweenmyself: At some point either the square peg or the round hole are going to fail; when they do, you know you’ve won.
asddsa28: what
asddsa28: o noooo
niccus: digital prion
niccus: literal misfolding
BoFatDis: @betweenmyself I mean everything is round in correct resolution
asddsa28: omg nooooooo
niccus: mad port disease
Molladia: It's like dry iron being rust free, until it encounters rust despite remaining dry.
Arclight_Dynamo: Oh, god the Therac!
Arclight_Dynamo: Bad UI can KILL, yo.
iris_of_ether: Oh god that story was horrifying
ANTRat: theres a Plainly Difficult video (or a couple) about it
Leedopo: oh baby Therac posting???
Master_Gunner: it was the type of software made by one guy in his basement over a weekend.
BoFatDis: oh yes, the number overflow which was never reset just started to show the numbers from the beginning
TwitchTVsFrank: Kyle hill has a good video on it
Leedopo: the medicine that kills you dead
iris_of_ether: I think it was something like if you had an error and backed out, it did *NOT* revert your mistake
Arclight_Dynamo: Wiki: "One, when the operator incorrectly selected X-ray mode before quickly changing to electron mode, which allowed the electron beam to be set for X-ray mode without the X-ray target being in place. A second fault allowed the electron beam to activate during field-light mode, during which no beam scanner was active or target was in place."
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yup, that will end well
iris_of_ether: Maybe if you backed out fast enough
Thefluffiestguineapig: @iris_of_ether Like into the speed force fast
BoFatDis: yeah, it was fascinating, that the problem was caused by becoming familiar with the UI, which allowed people to work fast
iris_of_ether: WE SHOULD
SnackPak_:
Brozard:
Ebthing:
TraceBullet:
gsyhiap:
SymphonicLolita:
nevermore913: Doesn't sound it
e_bloc: welcome to the highlight reel
DaSunao: Ah, the traditional horror show of if you can feel the radiation outside the UV/IR banding, you're in the process of dying
goombalax: hillight reel letsgooo
betweenmyself: That was a *good* sound
Nigouki: it's mostly a Canadian thing
Master_Gunner: the iron ring thing is mostly Canadian
TheAwkes: Just Canada.
SquidVorb: I think it's a Canadian thing
LordZarano: That's a Canadian thing
BoFatDis: someone who started wouldn't use it that fast and probably couldn't cause the mistake, but soemone who knew it would cuas eit more often
iris_of_ether: Also an MIT thing??
SnackPak_: yeah, gonna sample that sound
Master_Gunner: or at least we have our specific version
Arclight_Dynamo: The engineer's ceremony was created for Canadian engineers by Rudyard Kipling.
niccus: also some large bits of US
iris_of_ether: I want an engineering ring :C
Master_Gunner: the school I went to had a Software Engineering program done in cooperation with the Engineering faculty, so they were actually eligible for the iron ring.
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Arclight_Dynamo: They are very much not. A lot of rings are made of steel, since people can react to iron.
Nigouki: They give you options for iron or stainless steel
BoFatDis: I want it too. Where can I request one? I have my degree, can I get it?
LurkerSpine: I didn't think you were eligible for the ring unless you actually passed the exam
betweenmyself: Your first ring toward become a Maester at the Citadel
LurkerSpine: In the States, anyway
Arclight_Dynamo: "I bind myself upon my Honour and Cold Iron" is a *hell* of an oath, BTW.
Ebthing: collect all the engineers ring to gain power over matter
niccus: imagining the mental backflips you'd need to do to put an engineer's stamp on LLM
kakmize: I wonder if the Robodebt fiasco here in Australia counts
e_bloc: like enron and accounting
TheAwkes: Standing in a room with your graduating class, holding links of a chain together, swearing an oath of ethics and safe practice. It sure was a thing.
BoFatDis: the main reason why Civil Engineering is the horror of the Engineering fields. Mistakes send you to jail and kill many people, while many other fields just net you milions in losses (and the rest you blame on user error)
Master_Gunner: My other favourite software error is an integer overflow that caused an Ariene rocket to self-destruct.
rubikdarkwill: As someone who tests banking software, I recently found something that would have been pretty embarrassing if I hadn't found it
DoodlestheGreat: Nuclear weapon trigger systems.
Arclight_Dynamo: Speaking of aeronautical engineering, I have FEELINGS about Boeing. One of my sister's profs died in one of the Max-8 crashes.
SmithKurosaki: oof
DrakoniteDev: that really comes down to proper testing and requirements from the medical industry and medical supply industry, not that every programmer in the world needs special licensing
Molladia: Ian you're allowed to buy a ring for yourself.
Tempest2097: @Arclight_Dynamo Jesus that's awful.
ghyllnox: What *is* cold iron
TheAwkes: $40k? It was $50 by the time I graduated back in 2008.
rosesmcgee: Can I do it the way people become ordained ministers online?
DrakoniteDev: There are so many professions that need to be regulated before programmers
BoFatDis: I have a friend that works in a company responsible for producing parts for those planes, and yeah, people should be worried
ghyllnox: There are so many professions that need to be regulated *and* programmers (as a programmer)
Nigouki: diamond
Tempest2097: @ghyllnox Ah, interestingly enough there is not a common agreed upon definition for this. It could be cold iron in the way steel is cold steel, it could be cold hammer forged iron, it could be any number of other things but the ancient legends do not agree.
Arclight_Dynamo: @Tempest2097 Yeah, not great. Reading about the causes really made me angry.
Arclight_Dynamo: @ghyllnox In the case of the oath, it's just poetic.
Molladia: NekMinute
TraceBullet: It's files all the way down
Nigouki: you can buy diamond plates pretty easily if you want to sharpen super hard stuff like tungsten chisels for your gunpla :V
Tempest2097: I will say this for cold iron, it is supposed to be good against the fair folk when you needs it
ghyllnox:
Sure sure
Ebthing: regulations are written in blood
BoFatDis: @Tempest2097 Iron Druid chronicles reference?
Tempest2097: @BoFatDis Nope, just reading far far far too much mythology as a child.
BoFatDis: oh ok, makes sense, since it was based heavily in many mythos
Tempest2097: Irish mythology is particularly Shounen and bloody.
SquidVorb: Is that a thing? Is that why all my headphones get destroyed?
BoFatDis: oh yeah, it is, it's incredibly "fun:
Juliamon: I had a friend who couldn't use Macbooks because her skin would pit the aluminum in less than a year
epsilon_vee: @SquidVorb i mean it could be, but there's a lot of stock headphone ear pads that seem to be designed to fall apart in like a year
ghyllnox: That's a thing for me, but I thought that was just a human thing, not an Acid Ears thing
Tempest2097: @Juliamon Your friend produces a lot of acid.
Ryxiene:
Brozard: My glasses have some other kind of finish that's crackling, not bubbling. Wouldn't have thought that'd be acid but some kind of sweat salt reaction or something.
DoodlestheGreat: Mmmmm.... skin juice.
ghyllnox: I don't know if I want to start referring to my sweat as "skin juice"
BoFatDis: why not?
Tempest2097: It's a fantastic aeronautics material.
Spades_Slicc: @ghyllnox How about "Flesh Broth
Spades_Slicc: "
Tempest2097: Mercury
Arclight_Dynamo: Mercury
Juliamon: I love titanium, it's the only material I'll buy my ear jewelry in
TheAwkes: Gallium.
niccus: gallium and mercury
Tempest2097: They will straight up NOT let you bring mercury on airplanes for that very reason
Ebthing: test one on each plane
DoodlestheGreat: Two great tastes that taste great tigether!
Tempest2097: This is what the reaction looks like BTW
BoFatDis: doesn't gallium actually melt near body heat?
ghyllnox: What I'm hearing is that they're not preventing you from taking any gallium aboard
niccus: gallium's melting point is just under 30 C, so it's pretty easy to melt by body heat
Spades_Slicc: metal detector, x-ray, or searched bag
iris_of_ether: I have a friend who accidentally brought a keychain with a weak radiation source (deeply embedded in plastic) on a plane. He was *horrified* when he realized what he did
DoodlestheGreat: "This is my pet T1000."
Tempest2097: But yeah it can basically turn aluminum into something as strong as toilet paper.
niccus: cesium also has a similar melting point, but there are other issues with melting it in your hand
CururuGuasu: For honest hatter related activities
BoFatDis: well if you bring bottle of liquid gallium, you cannot bring liquids, you better drink it on the spot
loufghyslaufey: weh?
Arclight_Dynamo: Speaking of, Adam Savage tells a story about accidentally bringing a three-foot long razor blade onto a plane and not getting caught.
Nigouki: "this is not a threat" is always a good way to start
Ebthing: @BoFatDis cool it down first so it's a solid
LordZarano: LockPickingLawyer put gallium on a lock. He then crumbled the lock into pieces with his hands
ghyllnox: At that point it's a sword
iris_of_ether: Oopsiedoodle
betweenmyself:
Imagine the strop!
rubikdarkwill: For foam modelling
Tempest2097: I mean if you've gotta shave a giant in a hurry...
BoFatDis: I hate it when I bring my 3 foot razor by accident with me
DrakoniteDev: something tells me the actual reason mercury is banned is that it is extremely toxic if it becomes aerosolized (which happens if the container breaks)
Tempest2097: Ooops
Tempest2097: Also yeah, liquid mercury is relatively safe, it's mercury vapor that really fucks you up
Tempest2097: Also organic-mercury compounds which you could not pay me to be in the same building as.
iris_of_ether: @Tempest2097 This. This this this yikes this
rubikdarkwill: You JUST joked about putting them in the wrong way!
TheAwkes: I took a flight right after work once on a day I had been handling det cord before and after it's detonation.
iris_of_ether: !findquote R3
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iris_of_ether: !findquote L3
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NotCainNorAbel:
500 - woot
BoFatDis: but mercury vaporises quite quickly in just air right? I remember when my physics teacher warned us about crushing thermometers
goombalax: Gaming
iris_of_ether: !findquote R2
KWardJenx: Nicely done!
iris_of_ether:
Ebthing: keychains
Tempest2097: Hell yeah
Nigouki: perfectly timed success too
Thefluffiestguineapig: Victory has been achieved!
Texan_Reverend: !store
Molladia: So is there a data transfer/voltage difference with the new port? Does the batter charge faster now?
DrakoniteDev: fun fact: generically it is called the "guide" button
Texan_Reverend: !patreon
LordZarano:
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Juliamon: !reprint
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Tempest2097: Didn't they try to switch their location to Ireland without telling anyone?
Texan_Reverend: Indeed @tempest2097
Agu_Sakku: There was a video on clownfishtv about patron stuff.
Texan_Reverend: Payments are all processe there now.
Tempest2097: I dunno seems like telling banks this might have been a good move.
Tempest2097: But what do I know
Texan_Reverend: !schedule
Juliamon: Patreon isn't really known for making smart moves. They're very "act first, apologize later."
dyvion: ooh checkpoint!
Molladia: Or as Ian says Street Fighter 2
LordZarano: !rhythm
iris_of_ether: That scans
baskwalla: big mood, wheeler, big mood
Thefluffiestguineapig: He did pick the worst of all the YGO games functionally
Juliamon: Az
chaostreader: Forbidden memories is…….. a game, certainly.
BoFatDis: isn't YGO basically broken game overall?
Juliamon: BoFatDis Yes, but in a different way
chaostreader: @bofatdis Yes. But it’s relatively fair in how it’s broken. Forbidden memories isn’t.
ANeMzero: There are no heroes in Academia. Only survivors.
BoFatDis: I like the "fair in being broken"
BoFatDis: sounds neat
Juliamon: Forbidden Memories is broken in an unpredictable manner, rather than power imbalance.
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BoFatDis: does anybody know why my name never shows in sub list?
Nigouki: Thanks for the stream!
DrakoniteDev:
BoFatDis: just curious because it happened once before
Juliamon: BoFatDis When did you trigger the resub message?
BoFatDis: shortly before the last break
Juliamon: LRRbot doesn't show you in there at all
LoadingReadyRun: Sorry about that BoFatDis, thanks so much for subscribing
BoFatDis: well if it happens it happens, no problem, was just curious
Juliamon: I don't see it in the log either
Juliamon: Did you do it on mobile? Sometimes it won't pop on mobile
BoFatDis: no, normal twitch website
BoFatDis: may it be problem with prime sub?
Juliamon: Did you include a message with it?
BoFatDis: no I didn't
Juliamon: Next time try that
BoFatDis: oki doki, sorry for bothering you
Juliamon: No worries! We don't want people to feel ignored or left out.
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BoFatDis: I wasn't, just thought it may be something that happened to people before and maybe it is a problem you want to look into
Juliamon: Usually when it happens it's because they resubbed with Prime but didn't refresh and pop the notification
BoFatDis: ok, will have that in mind for the next time
BoFatDis: thanks for your help
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Juliamon: (I personally don't bother announcing mine, and save them for when we're tech-troubleshooting)
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