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RockPusher did the homework last night
RockPusher: !search for treasure
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RockPusher gets DQed for crashing backwards into the Pit
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TheAinMAP: Signal
Earthenone:
GapFiller: per the schedule ChillPoint is gouging on End of Year listicles ect for the nxt two weeks rather than taking a sensible fork knife off like CP+ right?
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RockPusher pulls the points out of the freezer now that they are sufficiently chill
Raiz0k: @GapFiller Looks like from the schedule, maybe wasn't updated yet?
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kusinohki: meows
mtvcdm: Hihi
richard_ermen: Woooow
RockPusher:
elitefourkaren: gottem
Raiz0k: xD
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GapFiller: we shd be so lucky
elitefourkaren: rejoice! video games are dead
GapFiller: thought that was always pretty self evident
MalFnord: Finally, the evil has been defeated!
Angreed66: Surely for there to be no more news VG would disappear causing news.
Raiz0k: @elitefourkaren "Now We Are Free" starts playing.
richard_ermen: For the Black Myth Wukong people, a not-good thing happened.
RockPusher:
GapFiller: wdnt it be Astro Bot 3 since Astro Bot is already a sequel
elitefourkaren: denial
richard_ermen: What if the Silksong was the friends we made along the way?
GapFiller: pretty sure Astro Playroom already counts as Astro Bot 1
mtvcdm: Was the website Zombo com?
Raiz0k: The Silksong subreddit is wild, it's gone beyond acceptance and invented at least 3 new phases.
GapFiller:
Foxmar320: Astro was in a VR game before Playroom so is Astro Bot the third game?
dippedfeathers: in minor video game news, Team Fortress 2 finally got it's seventh and final comic today after seven years of waiting. Hope exists.
richard_ermen: Ohhh no, Beej encountered Enshittification
OldUncleDan: Astro Bot Gaiden!
Foxmar320: Heather and I on the same page
Earthenone: what if i dont have a ps5 but love sony games?
Foxmar320: Heather the VR game is called Astro Bot Rescue Mission
richard_ermen: Is Astro Bot basically a Sony Mascot?
GapFiller: better this than Sonyman
richard_ermen: I miss Pepsiman.
GapFiller: Sonyman is absolutely an idea that has at least been on somebodys brianstorm whiteboard
RockPusher:
*waits for the PC port* 
Raiz0k: I've very briefly wondered why the LRR are so partial to a PS franchise and then I went "oh yeah, the PS(X) sketches".
mtvcdm: If you're going to make them a mascot you can have them do anything you want
KeytarCat: Put astro bot in smash
TheMerricat: Smash?
Earthenone: is super smash bros not the nintendo equivalint?
GapFiller: !smash
RockPusher: Astrobot Cart
mtvcdm: When you make a mascot character you're saying, we can plug this character into whatever it is we want to do with a game, even if it's not their core identity.
Foxmar320: Astro Bot Rescue Mission Astro's Playroom Astro Bot
SocraticMethod: @Raiz0k Delusion, Delirium and Demiurge
richard_ermen: What if Helldiver actually needs 5 robotsS?
GapFiller: it wd be MORE shocking if ChillPoint began w/o a derailment
Raiz0k:
@SocraticMethod "Delirium": please don't give me Binding of Isaac flashbacks. 
richard_ermen: "Catly", the amusingly non-ai AI game, that clearly was a grifters scheme. Again.
Raiz0k: Oh yeah, actually GJ for Graham to explain why everyone thought it was AIgenned.
SocraticMethod: @Raiz0k Delusion, Dementia and Demiurge then?
mtvcdm: He was on Bluesky the other night like, any time I have to go to LinkedIn it's so sad there
itmightbemikey: The Fantasy Cats were offputting to me, as someone who is a mark for cat games
KV1NN4: I was really hoping it would be a Nintencats type game
Laserbeaks_Fury: Catly sounds like a Personality Core that's just obsessed with cats
Raiz0k:
@SocraticMethod Just Hollow Knight flashbacks, so acceptable I suppose .
richard_ermen: I thought it sounds like a marketing persons imagination of gaming names.
itmightbemikey: The person also apparently had 6 fingers
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Laserbeaks_Fury:
ohh, so it's a Catwalk simulator 
RockPusher: I'm not surprised Catly has turned out hollow, but I am disappointed I'm not getting a new game with chill kitties
SocraticMethod: @Raiz0k I live to please
Raiz0k: @SocraticMethod Indeed, appreciated.
Angreed66: the e is silent
Laserbeaks_Fury: "We have the Captcha that proves we are human"
MalFnord: It was such a uncanny valley Lisa Frank-ass looking thing that everybody was immediately sus.
RockPusher: I should replay Stray
RockPusher: *spams the meow button*
GapFiller:
real 
100% Human Here vibes
Laserbeaks_Fury: SWATKats
CaptainSpam: It is a game where cats, and also fashion. Those are verbs now, apparently.
incslayer: @Laserbeaks_Fury the totally radical squadron?
Raiz0k: *No Cat's Sky
KeytarCat:
I wanted to like infinite nikki, but it doesn't run on my computer 
(speaking of cats and dressup)
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mtvcdm: I'm amazed they paid for the TGA spot knowing people were going to dig into what you're doing
Earthenone: sounds authenti
RockPusher: They didn't grasp that the audience for chill cat games is also the audience that won't tolerate AI slop and crypto scams
an_archist2: NaughtASkahm Incorporated
MalFnord: represented by the firm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe
Raiz0k: @RockPusher That's because they were most of the sliver in the Venn Diagram for that.
bytecaster: Plants are already not fungible, each cactus is unique!
Laserbeaks_Fury: HARDCORE RELAXATION
Raiz0k: "We're redefining water! Now with electrolytes!"
GapFiller: these are the kinda people who think cosy games are Ripe For Disruption
bytecaster: This cloud cozy game has web3 synergy and actualizes our wholesome vibes
RockPusher: "If that tech was available to us we would totally use it!"
Raiz0k: Oh my God, have we tried.
mtvcdm: There are no drugs in the ocean, Heather, at least not any you can easily use
GapFiller: and ofc the scrubbed sites
bytecaster: That would explain the uncanny
bytecaster: We used AI to find out: "People like cats"
mtvcdm: Why would you pay for this
RubikDarkwill: Zoom out, not moving away from the mic
Raiz0k: Money!
mtvcdm: Who had the bright idea to pay for this
bytecaster: You see Beej, you start by pumping and then later you do the dumping
RockPusher: Cyrpto bro venture capitalist money?
Raiz0k: Investors!
GapFiller: reminded of a musician who came to disappoint me when they jumped and that particular Not All AI shindig after they put out a book abt that just this week
SocraticMethod: Doritos pope gives tons of discounts to indies for ads
TheMerricat: Are you under the impression that The Dorrito Pope would say no to ad money?
MalFnord: Crime money!
Angreed66: crypto people don't have good monetary sense
mtvcdm: !patreon
bytecaster: As it turns out, not everybody is a rational actor in capitalism.
Raiz0k: @bytecaster *in any economic system
TheMerricat: This will be a mobile game and that trailer will be recognized as the peak of ad fakery next to the scheming Grandma
GapFiller: it figures theres also these people being v much of the Fake It Tell You Make It Ethos type of grifting
Raiz0k: The scam could be there, it's just could be the C-levels that are scammed.
Raiz0k: Also, connections.
korvys: I'm thinking it was a project in development when the bottom fell out of NFTs, and they're trying to repackage it
TheMerricat: "According to reports, the cost of an advertisement during The Game Awards can range from $250,000 to $550,000 for a 1-2.5 minute trailer, with larger companies often considering this a good deal due to the high viewership of the event; smaller indie game developers might find this price significantly higher than their budget."
Godeke: ^ just found what TheMerricat did.
mtvcdm: The Super Bowl *does* reject some ads every year
richard_ermen: @TheMerricat Wowzers thats expensive
Raiz0k: So, yeah, not a lot.
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bytecaster: Imagine if the Super Bowl only had 30 minutes of game and all the rest was ads
RandomTrivia:
Hi friends! 
KeytarCat: hewwo!
TheMerricat:
@mtvcdm The superbowl isn't founded exclusively on selling ad time, they actually have a ball game in between the commercials 
Raiz0k: @bytecaster Don't reinforce their ideas.
Laserbeaks_Fury: New Fangled Technology
SocraticMethod: Found the source I was looking for : Updated: 06/6/2024, 2:05 p.m. ET: After the publication of this story a handful of indie publishers and developers contacted Kotaku and explained that some “free slots” are provided to smaller, non-AAA games and studios. It appears that Keighley is sometimes pitched games to include and he provides some free airtime for these projects as part of the “earned editorial placements” previously mentioned.
flouncy_magooo: @TheMerricat Big if true
Raiz0k: It's toxic, because it became toxic in boardrooms.
GapFiller: every other smartphone eg
richard_ermen: I will forever feel bad from the fact of what we call AI nowadays, having lost the word war about what it actually is in comparison =(
RandomTrivia: It's still going to take ages to get people to call it what it is, which is Generative Plagiarism
Raiz0k: The biggest buzzword being "AI".
elitefourkaren: ai is a tool
GapFiller: it feels as w/ many other things recently video games have become the canary in the tech grift coal mine
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Juliamon: !cardview off
LRRbot: Card viewer disabled
flouncy_magooo: Is LRRbot okay?
GapFiller: ie NFT's AI ect tried out on video games before moving into the more general space
Juliamon:
don't worry about it 
SymphonySolstice: someone's shuffling cards in the main studio I see
RandomTrivia:
korvys: Someones prepping in Studio C, I bet
bytecaster: You simply gotta say: "It's the future" no understanding necessary
Raiz0k: @GapFiller That's only because they're the part of the tech sector that's mechanically exposed to the general populace the most.
richard_ermen: I mean, mosst people who invest into NFTs or AI don't understand it either, do they?
TheMerricat: LRRBot tok issue with all the shittalking of AI. LRRBot just wanted to remind us, it's listening.
theGuidingLark: friendly reminder that at least in the United states, AI generated content is Non-copywritable material, so you can just lift it from whatever its in and have a valid case
RockPusher:
Ben possibly doing some last-minute brewing 
blind_will: AI is like plastic: cheap and useful for a very wide range of things; but generally low quality, and very quickly overused in a ways that produce mountains of waste.
RandomTrivia: Could be sleeving decks
Juliamon: it's probably them just loading the decks into LRRbot
Juliamon: making sure it has the right versions of cards
OldUncleDan: Dear Dr. Paul, Have you been able to check out Creeper World IXE yet?
Raiz0k: @theGuidingLark w.r.t. transformative use
theGuidingLark: ^
TheMerricat:
IXE? There's been THAT many Creeper games now?
SocraticMethod: Too bad NFTs are big with Japanese artists
bytecaster: The nice person doesn't even need to be right
DoodlestheGreat: "Democratizing art." Because it's SO hard to buy pencils and paper...
OldUncleDan: @TheMerricat And that's not even counting Particle Fleet Emergence!
richard_ermen: Another person? Peter Molyneux?
theGuidingLark: "I have never oiled a snake" claims imfamous snake oil distributer
richard_ermen: Oh
Angreed66: but Epic isn't a person
bytecaster: @theGuidingLark I always thought you milked the snake to get the oil?!
RockPusher: So many dollars, and yet how much revenue is fork-knife pulling in?
Raiz0k: @DoodlestheGreat They're merely capitalizing on the "I don't have time for this" = "I'm bad at this" fallacy.
richard_ermen:
@bytecaster Good thing snakes are "famously milkable" 
Juliamon: no, you get antivenin from milking the snake
LilyOfTheVeil666:
@angreed66 The American legal system says otherwise
bytecaster: @richard_ermen Exactly, it's why the snake oil works so well!
theGuidingLark: @bytecaster I can neither confirm nor deny any snakes were milked
SymphonySolstice: your kid purchased something unintentionally
richard_ermen: So are we at the point where we can say: "Mr.Epic fleeced these people"?
richard_ermen: Is there a Mr.Epic?
richard_ermen: Is there a Missis Epic??
Diabore: yes or yes
TheMerricat: @RockPusher The latest hard numbers I'm seeing on google at a quick glance are from 2022. "Fortnite generated $4.4 billion revenue in 2022, about 85% of Epic Games total revenue"
SocraticMethod: @TheMerricat Those are estimates AFAIK, can't find hard source
TheAwkes: If I'm mashing the X button to get through something, the default behaviour shouldn't be spending real money.
bytecaster: @TheAwkes Exactly, the default behavior on X should be to doubt!
GapFiller: even government agencies shd know the joys of comment section moderation
mtvcdm: game pls show feet
bytecaster: Did they sue Epic in regular "court" or in "court no build"
OldUncleDan: How do I mine for fish?
richard_ermen: We really need some psychologists to get on this. This is a deep insight into the gamer soul, I think.
MalFnord: Well duh. I never win things!
Juliamon: bring back applewood smoked pulled pork
Izandai:
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SymphonySolstice:
mtvcdm: !addquote (Beej) [now] I would like to refund my son's skin!
LRRbot: New quote #9211: "I would like to refund my son's skin!" —Beej [2024-12-20]
bytecaster: My son has too much skin?!?
Raiz0k: Oh, Binding of Isaac coming out again.
RockPusher: Misbehave? I'll take away your skin!
Diabore: whats the skinny
richard_ermen: Something like "I'm refunding my sons game" reminds me of parents being cruel to children because they don't understand the value of fantasy, like the mother that deleted her sons 5-year old minecraft world.
SocraticMethod: You need four skins to play fortnite
bytecaster: "I need my child to emote less"
NullColaShip: Now your son has no skin in the game
blind_will: meh. No skin off my back.
richard_ermen: @NullColaShip Does Fortnite suddenly offer Mouthwashing Skins?
TheMerricat:
Or this episode of Chillpoint in Youtube, do NOT ask Heather how to get refunds for Fortnite.
Izandai: That's what you want. That's not what you get.
bytecaster: @TheMerricat But the engagement!
mtvcdm: We still have forums?!
RockPusher: Sickos (affectionate)
richard_ermen: Isn't all the internet weird people?
richard_ermen: (affectionate)
TheMerricat: @richard_ermen Would there be any skin left?
Angreed66: The people who got exploited just come off as ignorant based off the comments
GapFiller: (shocking innit)
mtvcdm: First!
bytecaster: People just say thing?!? On the internet?!
richard_ermen: @TheMerricat Surely you'd get some Rei Ayanami-style bandages for the important "save the children"-bits.
korvys: Well that's because we're trying to help
blind_will: A bit of friction is good. We need people to make deliberate decisions about what they are saying and doing. If it is too smooth and easy, people will leak out whatever useless pointless junk that crosses their mind.
EmmaPartlow: I miss forums.
mtvcdm: Not many comments have replies to those comments
bytecaster: @blind_will You don't need to call my posts in chat here out like that!
RockPusher: I look forward to starting a blog where there will be no ability to comment. People can agree or disagree but I'm not interested in hearing it either way
blind_will:
@bytecaster 
richard_ermen: @EmmaPartlow Same. The "everything is temporal now or on discord" is so bad for looking back on older conversations.
bytecaster: Does the FTC link your Twitch account so you can use any cool emotes you have?
EmmaPartlow: @richard_ermen Absolutely. There was something really endearing about signatures with forum posting
Izandai: Beej, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but "USians" just sounds like crap.
richard_ermen: "US"-ians? Is there a specific Ian-version of the US?
Raiz0k: @Izandai I always thought it was meant to sound like "USAsians".
accountmadeforants:
@bytecaster No, you gotta pay the separate FTC membership subscription to get FTC's own cool emotes
TheMerricat:
I've been using Usian's for forever chat. Don't blame Beej. 
richard_ermen: lol ^^
Izandai: @Raiz0k Damn, that's almost really really good.
KV1NN4: my anxiety definitely makes me talk and explain too much
Izandai:
Raiz0k:
@Izandai I'll settle for that .
bytecaster: How about USamorphs?
richard_ermen: loooooool
mtvcdm: Vespuccites
NorthstarTex: acceptable
RandomTrivia: US-ese
elitefourkaren: los estados unidos
accountmadeforants: USacites
elitefourkaren: Yanquis
richard_ermen: US-icons?
an_archist2: Canadabots and USicons
bytecaster: Can we just call them Robotechians?
SocraticMethod: Beej, chat deserves USnoids
Earthenone: from kingdom hearts heather
richard_ermen: What about USicles?
TheMerricat: Usabots is an lewd anime
elitefourkaren: also chat USians is supposed to annoy you. you forgot to name your country
mtvcdm: Oh, right, Beej means Flight of the Navigator
DaniellNaruta: TRON and TROFF
mtvcdm: Jeff!
NonjaBiru: I thought Tron was that city in Canada with the knock off space needle
wildpeaks: Geff
RandomTrivia: Jeff!
richard_ermen: Otaku_Jeff?
RockPusher: Jeff!
couchboyj: Give it a few years and we'll me Xericans after Muskrat changes the name of the country
bytecaster: Jeff can host the next game awards!
mtvcdm: Jeff the Blahaj!
blind_will: Geoff?
accountmadeforants: Just brief intermissions of Jeff between advertisements would certainly be more honest
SocraticMethod: Including the murder?
mtvcdm: IDGAF Harrison Ford hosting
GapFiller: who is gonna say no to Ryan Reynolds here
Kentosaurus: LRR needs a maple leaf emote for chat
KV1NN4: Deadpool v Wolverine made over 1 billion int he boxoffice apparently so Disney dang well better let him do what he wants >.>;
LilyOfTheVeil666:
"Deadpool" and "straight" don't belong in the same sentence 
GapFiller: mtvcdm in the same vein of saying no to Ryan Reynolds hosting as Deadpool who is gonna tell Han Solo he has to follow the autocue
bytecaster: I mean, if anyone splashed it's Venom
accountmadeforants: Apparently he can Kirby people off the stage, except he can do it to an entire team
bytecaster: But at least he is cute about killing you!
mtvcdm: Trailer's in your home discord Heather
Angreed66: So like teferi> good character lorewise awful cards to play against
CaptainSpam: Isn't Squirrel Girl the Great Lakes Avengers, though? Not West Coast?
NonjaBiru: I think Beej means the Great Lakes Avenger
bytecaster: Squirrel Girl assist trophy
LilyOfTheVeil666: Squirrel Girl canonically defeated Thanos
couchboyj: Squirrel Girl is fairly low key in her pwn books and is Unbeatable off screen
SocraticMethod: Gwenpool does opposite of fixing, tbh
NorthstarTex: yeah, Gwenpool adopted jeff, and passed it onto Deadpool proper because she realized she was too op and want Jeff to live on
Izandai:
Bruceski: Gwenpool is the type of character who can easily be Too Much but when used on the right level is fun.
RandomTrivia: That's adorable
TheMerricat: Deadpool, Gwenpool, and Squirrel Girl walk into a bar. Nothing happens. World is saved.
NorthstarTex: Jeff is so cute doh
Izandai:
bytecaster: I just looked at the image search for "Jeff the Land Shark" I have NO regrets!
FuzBubbles: squirrel girl had a fantastic 58 issue run!
Izandai:
Izandai: Amazing
RandomTrivia: Welp
RandomTrivia:
FuzBubbles: written by Ryan North (Canadian and creator of dinosaur comics)
wildpeaks: wow
bytecaster: Crisis on New 104
RockPusher: I want a Lower Decks movie
SocraticMethod: I have bad news ..
MalFnord: Lower Decks was awesome
FuzBubbles: Secret Crisis
RockPusher: just a legit, straight up give them a feature film
TheMerricat: I'm still sad that the end of LD was also the end of Wil Wheaton's aftershow.
RandomTrivia: Ah yes, the Balatro story- it's 2am what the hell?
SocraticMethod: Pan European Game Information
Invitare: nobody writes Vulcans better than Lower Decks
adambomb625: Balatro is EVIL. It's CORRUPTING your KIDS
RockPusher:
richard_ermen: The fact that Balatro is rated as such shows how removed from actual people playing games some of these rating boards are.
Tiber727: You just try to get at least X points.
bytecaster: Exactly! Jimbo only wants the best for you!
richard_ermen: But then again, I heard Germany took 30 years to finally allow things like Doom to be uncensored etc.
TheMerricat: To be fair to the board. While the game isn't teaching poker. it is _normalizing_ poker rules and playing cards. If you are trying to get kids not used to real life gambiling.
Izandai: I've heard that one of the things that they really don't like is "teaching how to gamble" and the fact that poker hands are a core mechanic might've run afoul of that.
ashesandmochi: So I learned last week that a writer friend / acquaintance of mine wrote the Honor of Kings episode of Secret Level (and someone in the extended circle wrote the Concord level) and I went "wait I heard about this series from Checkpoint"
SocraticMethod: "This game teaches - by way of images, information and gameplay - skills and knowledge that are used in poker. During gameplay, the player is rewarded with ‘chips’ for playing certain hands. The player is able to access a list of poker hand names. As the player hovers over these poker hands, the game explains what types of cards the player would need in order to play certain hands. As the game goes on, the player becomes increasingly familiar with which hands would earn more points. ...
RandomTrivia: You could literally re-label everything as Yahtzee and then get your 3+ rating, and a C&D from Hasbro
mtvcdm: Dungeons and Degenerate Gamblers is one I bought last night, it's a pvp blackjack... with even weirder cards.
GapFiller: heh
richard_ermen: @TheMerricat Wasn't the poker craze 20 years ago? I remember seeing it on live tv as everyone was playing Texas Hold'Em
bytecaster: Yeah, I think the problem here is with the double standard. Games with practically actual slot machine get lower ratings than Balatro.
GapFiller: idk Heather theyre both mature hobbies
bytecaster: The kids crave the rush of a Royal Flush
Invitare: they'll be able to win??
Bruceski: PEGI's theme song is just Trouble from Music Man
richard_ermen:
@RandomTrivia I...I thought Yahtzee was like a cultural name, not something brandmarked 
RockPusher: Wait until the new Aussie classification rules start biting properly — Stardew Valley for example should be R18
kusinohki: I've heard of some communities that refuse to use dice, even in boardgames. Spiners were okay though
RandomTrivia:
1CozyCanadian: Lol maybe go after the gacha games and skinner box games that are predatory on kids and people with gambling addictions.
Snowcookies: wait til they learn Mahjong is basically east-asian poker
mtvcdm: We had that one gambling stream years ago on 18 Games and Counting. What we learned that day? Actual gambling games are kinda boring.
richard_ermen:
@TheMerricat Yeah, I remember that! It was so weird. I had colleagues making uni money with poker online
bytecaster: Good thing kids are incapable of communicating, the little buggers!
GapFiller: mtvcdm Kathleen flipping her lid at Paul and James will never not be hilarious
Bruceski: I learned all my curse words from other kids who went to church because somebody had the bright idea of telling seven year olds what words they were never to say.
richard_ermen: I learned my curse words from MTV!
TheMerricat: @richard_ermen During the boom years, the online poker player pool at least doubled in size every year. - while it was eventually killed via legal means (i.e. banning online gambling in the US) that was a pyramid that was going to fall either way.
richard_ermen: I mean it is supposed to say "Motherfracker!" right?
RockPusher:
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar 
Juliamon: it's always "about" "protecting" "children"
SocraticMethod: I mean, adding one layer of difficulty does decrease the amount of people accessing it
mtvcdm: I learned my curse words when someone let me watch the movie Major League
blind_will: Bans of all forms of cigarette advertising have worked pretty well though. Cigarette smoking is way *way* down since that kind of thing came in.
GapFiller: as Morgan once famously put it in a Whatever Thing: "telling people not to have sex DOES NOT FUCKING WORK"
bytecaster: I also don't wanna be hit with the whole world all at once all the time, please
LordZarano: Teach kids about the Kelly Criterion! It makes gambling the boringest thing ever! (It's the equation that tells you the optimal bet based on the probability of winning and the payout)
richard_ermen: Yeah, hitting with a little less of the world at the same time might be nice.
Izandai: @SocraticMethod Yeah, this is a really important thing. Making it harder to do a thing decreases the number of people who do it.
mtvcdm: All the kids are learning these days are either, their parents suck, or "the computer told me [insert whatever AI hallucinated at them], that means it's true"
SocraticMethod: Unfortunately EU has to rule that Gacha is gambling, first
RockPusher: Actual loot boxes - rated M, Stardew and its slot machine, R18
bytecaster: On the PEGI site, the only icon for EA Sports FC is a hand holding a credit card and then it says 3 years or up. Which is amazing
SocraticMethod: Balatro tried to muscle on the turf of national gambling monopolies and got hit
blind_will: Yeah, that's the thing. Balatro doesn't have gambling it in. Whereas lootboxes literally are gambling. So there's a real mismatch there.
Laserbeaks_Fury: EEAAo
GapFiller: Paul taking the words right outta my mouth
1CozyCanadian:
Optics 
richard_ermen: I mean, thats a one of the classic blunders, right?...I mean conundrum.
kusinohki: perception is more important than reality. has been for quite a while
TheMerricat: As a reminder, PEGI and other rating boards _created_ by an industry rather than the government organization are primarily focused on preventing their industry from being regulated by said government organizations. It's _ALL_ about the visuals. The Moral issues are just side effects.
Juliamon: that's MY favourite
Izandai: ~It's not about aptitude, it's the way you're viewed...~
bytecaster: Themes in my media? How dare!
an_archist2: contains imagery
GapFiller: thats doubly phunny yeh
AngryFil: may contain content
shurtal: "I know writers who use themes and they're all cowards."
RockPusher: "M: Chance-based in-game purchases" "R18: High impact simulated gambling"
Juliamon: and its Twitch variant, "Suitable for Certain Audiences"
richard_ermen: That's a very Netflix thing, describing things weird.
richard_ermen: I just want to know.....is it appropriate for cardiac people?
mtvcdm: The ratings boards are pretty much just there so the government doesn't crack down on games directly.
DaniellNaruta: I used to have to submit games to ESRB and it has huge checklists oh what's happening in the game, including if you are rewarded for interacting. it's based on a points system, and I haven't done one in a while, but i bet the list hasn't ever been updated
Angreed66: Well then they'll add the microtransactions in the 13th month
Juliamon: premeditative
DaniellNaruta: we also had to find a VCR to submit a tape of gameplay
DeM0nFiRe:
@Juliamon 
OldUncleDan:
So, it's just Zootopia!
ghyllnox: Meditative as in "complex themes you need to think on for a while"?
TheMerricat: The way ratings boards _should_ work is any significant addition to a game's working/functionality/etc. should open it up for someone to _request_ a rating review.
bytecaster: It's a lot to deal with
NapalmSideburns: Can we pet the underbelly?
1CozyCanadian: The underbelly is a trap!
bytecaster: @NapalmSideburns Sadly, it's always a trap
Laserbeaks_Fury: Tasteful UNderbuelly
NapalmSideburns: @bytecaster A sacrifice I'll make every time
bytecaster: I just wanna know, if Ms.Pacman is in it!
TheMerricat: "Let Cameron watch it, he hates everything!"
bytecaster: "Head of Tekken Stuff" is a great title!
SocraticMethod: Fun fact: the secret level episode was inspired by the Shadow Labyrinth
SocraticMethod: The Blur guys saw the concept and went "Oh that's dope"
bytecaster: That is very Tekken
Izandai:
GapFiller: oooh Bara Pacman
bytecaster: How is that worse than weird tree guy?!
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Juliamon: we were shaped by cabinet art
ghyllnox: None pedal
an_archist2: ball with feet
OldUncleDan: Sounds like you're talking about Burgertime!
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Juliamon: That's more of an egg
Izandai: That is not cucumber shaped.
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bytecaster: Okay, I regret having seen the Ms.Pacman cabinet art while looking for that
Izandai: The visual reference I would've gone for was Q*bert.
GapFiller: but what happens when we map these shapes onto a qube
SquareDotCube: Buzzblobs is what Been is talking about, they react strangely to magic powder
SquareDotCube: Beej
UnknownFriday: You had a choice of cylinder and sphere, and you went with "An egg is a misshaped cylinder."
DeM0nFiRe: Beej and Diogenes arguing over whether a plucked chicken is a man or a cucumber
bytecaster: Fortnite has finally gone full toilet
Doc_Layzah: original pac-man art looks like whatever the ghosts were when they were alive. Like ghost with legs
Coloneljesus: what about squidward?
RockPusher: ♫ Whoooo doesn't live in that pineapple now on fortnight? ♫
bytecaster: Spongebob has retired and can no longer be booked for any gigs
Juliamon: why can't we have a handsome Squidward skin
Coloneljesus: @Juliamon that's every squidward skin
bytecaster: These all sound like pitches for Minecraft mods
SquareDotCube: Wouldn't getting to Bikini Bottom from Rock Bottom enough of a challenge?
shurtal: GOD i hate the Gk-Word
shurtal: G*
Laserbeaks_Fury: At least it's short, when you start you'll be done three hours later
Coloneljesus: i want to invest in your idea Beej
Izandai: Battle for Bikini Bottom
Bionull: Beej said that as if it wasn't a good plan
thegitrogsquirrel: beej just read me to dirt
Coloneljesus: not games
SquareDotCube: Battle for Bikini Bottom
RockPusher:
bytecaster: Gamers love synergy
shurtal: free two day shipping?
richard_ermen: Is this Beejs Segway into a Mans Romance?
1CozyCanadian: chairs. RGB. supps.
TheAinMAP:
1CozyCanadian: Oh. Yes. That.
dumbo3k: wut
LordZarano: Spongebob was Powerwash Sim DLC
GapFiller:
!?
Coloneljesus: torlet
SocraticMethod: Toilet head backpacks are confirmed
blind_will: This is one of the weirder fads I've seen.
MalFnord: Hopefully it means that it's peaked
Laserbeaks_Fury: Skibidi do dah, skibidi ay
flouncy_magooo: @mtvcdm Wait, it has a plot???
Juliamon: We linked it on the tips channel
Juliamon: and then devolved into talking about vintage memes
tajessa: Oh no I just got here and I have deliberately avoided skibidi until now
richard_ermen: Is Skibidi Toilet an example of modern day "Brainrot"?
ashesandmochi: Truly different dialects of Internet
Izandai: @flouncy_magooo I know there's a war between the toilets with heads coming out of the and the people with cameras for heads.
Angreed66: There are people younger than you who also don't understand it
CaptainSpam:
No! All our memes and jokes were perfectly sensible!
Juliamon: It's not really any different from MY BRAND
accountmadeforants: Ah, but they couldn't license G-Man from Valve, I see
Krat_Arona: I wonder if Valve gets a cut of this since it's a stolen HL Asset
flouncy_magooo: @Izandai Oh, okay. That clears everything up-
DeM0nFiRe: @Krat_Arona b
PipeSmokingOwl: even genZ memes can't beat capitalism and copyright
SocraticMethod: Skibidi toilet is actually a big company
Laserbeaks_Fury: Thi sis what happens when you don't flush your YouTube Poop
blind_will: Actually *I* own the skibidi toilet concept and assets.
TheMerricat:
That's the great thing about memes Beej, they are free for the stealing. They didn't have to talk to anyone!
TheAwkes: I've seen a rather cursed piece of Skibidi Toilet merch and it was decidedly not the same face as from the Source Engine.
richard_ermen: Skibii Toilets has....77 Episodes....I'm...what? Why?!
accountmadeforants: @Krat_Arona Given that all of them are subtly different from the real things, I suspect they did their best to dodge those potential fees. As is traditional for Fortnite.
bytecaster: @richard_ermen Lore
Coloneljesus: @richard_ermen they're like 90 seconds each, so...
DeM0nFiRe: @Krat_Arona sorry mistype
niccus: can a skibidi toilet ever be part of a man's romance
Driosenth: What is the currency conversion from Fortnite V-buck to Kroner?
Krat_Arona: @DeM0nFiRe All good friend!
RandomTrivia: I think richard_ermen's question stands - ... why?
bytecaster: I just enjoy that the youth still enjoy source engine
richard_ermen: Its not that I'm even incensed, I think its just...what does it do that people enjoy?
mtvcdm: I didn't care until I decided to read the plot on Wikipedia last night and now I'm just bewildered
SocraticMethod: DaFuq!?Boom! is the channel owner and he has a holding company that handles the media rights, because there is going to be TV series and Movie. It's a whole thing
blind_will: I do think it's stupid; ... but I'm definitely not annoyed that people enjoy it. I just think that's a bit weird.
ashesandmochi: Is this their version of like Charlie the Unicorn and Saladfingers
GapFiller: basically
flouncy_magooo: Back in my day we had intellectual memes like badger badger badger
Izandai: That's not even the first such song she's made.
LordZarano: I loved ShortBits when I was a youth (gmod comedy thing)
dumbo3k: @flouncy_magooo Mushroom Mushroom!
Juliamon: It's not even that weird compared to a lot of old memes
RockPusher: mushroom mushroom!
blind_will: @flouncy_magooo mushroom mushroom!
GapFiller: SNAKE! IT'S A SNAKE!
Doc_Layzah: or that singing motorcycle frog
Coloneljesus: PANIC, a snake!
Jobot180: Snake
Melfina__: Snaaaake snaaaake
Juliamon: or Hampsterdance
Juliamon: what did THOSE offer
RandomTrivia: @Juliamon Everything you could imagine, and more
Mollylele: TIL beej has a meme threshold
blind_will: I also think of nyan cat... the rainbow poptart gif thing.
richard_ermen: Unpacking? Is this a line into a Boxnard reveal??
accountmadeforants: I'm sure there's some younger millennials who are drawing derisive comparisons to the good old days of machinima back during their youth.
mtvcdm: you're the man now dog
RockPusher: Unpacking is a masterclass in narrative design
Juliamon: We had gifs with background music and we LIKED it
DaniellNaruta: as i understand it, it's a symbol of the way capitalism will sell you anything and make you want it
Izandai: hm
CaptainSpam: Unpack-'em-ups?
GapFiller: Juliamon phun phact a Hampsterdance song was nearly the UK No1 for Xmas 1999 which meant Britain nearly saw in the Millennium to the tune of the Hampsterdance
richard_ermen: "Unpacking : New Chapters" sounds really bizarre for what is essentially a trademark violation
ghyllnox: They're all the same style, are they by the same company?
richard_ermen: Also, isn't Nintendo usually legendary in hounding copyright violations? Or is that only for their own games?
TheMerricat: Has Nintendo become the next Steam Greenlight trashfire?
SocraticMethod: @richard_ermen Only their own IP.
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Juliamon: One enterprising company figured out how easy it was to get onto the eShop, and everyone followed suit immediately.
TheMerricat: Anyone remember the Panther game they played on W+P?
RockPusher: Steam have had many many years of trying all sorts of things to improve the discoverability
SocraticMethod: Like, Nintendo legendarily follows "rules for thee not for me" principle for IP and copyright
Juliamon: If it was a fake Mario game they'd be all over it
Laserbeaks_Fury: I, too, received Transmorphers from my grandparents a s a kid
dumbo3k: @Juliamon Unpacking: Mario Edition
TheMerricat: So when does Nintendo get hit by a class action lawsuit for enabling trademark and IP violation?
RockPusher:
I'm sure it is easier than getting support from YouTube
richard_ermen: What about "Unpacking M.A.R.I.O."?
TheMerricat: That's all online stuff these days, do you know how many youtubers socials I've been fed lately talking about being de-monitized or banned or otherwise harmed using Youtube or Twitch and they find it impossible not just to get ahold of anyone in the companies' support but also _THEIR ASSIGNED CONTACT_ in the company is either unreachable or can't do shit either.
Laserbeaks_Fury: is it at least 2048
Cptasparagus: they spelled Fortnite that way because it was about building forts to survive the (night), and then they RIPPED OFF PUBG lol
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RandomTrivia: "deluxe edition" is a rather egregious use of that theory
richard_ermen: @Cptasparagus Remember, originality is dead.
TheMerricat: "Unpacking is a puzzle video game developed by Witch Beam and published by Humble Bundle for Microsoft Windows, macOS, iOS, Android, Linux, Nintendo Switch"
ArcOfTheConclave: unpacking deluxe edition is playing loose with that theory
Wicker_Guide: Plz no trolling for degraded trademark
Tiber727: Then Nintendo bans you anyway and ignores your claims of hypocrisy.
TheMerricat: The bots have no concept of sarcasm. They only know generative markov chains.
SocraticMethod: @Cptasparagus It's actually because very early in dev the players had to survive 14 days, Fortnight -> name too generic -> Fortnite ->
OldUncleDan: Dear Dr. Paul, Have you been able to check out Creeper World IXE yet?
Juliamon: I stepped away briefly for dinner earlier, did we mention the thing G brought up about Zenless Zone Zero?
Izandai: @SocraticMethod Ah, the Magic: The Gathering game name origin story.
Wicker_Guide: third movie is out now, will be out for christmas
ANeMzero: and by the 20th we mean... today.
CaptainSpam: Sonic the Hedgehog will return in THUNDERBALL
Izandai:
Laserbeaks_Fury: It's gotta be soon, Ben Schwartz is doing the rounds
GapFiller:
mtvcdm: Never tick off your editor
TheMerricat:
@Juliamon None of those words are recognizable to me, so I'm guessing no.
GapFiller: Juliamon is that the controller thing or the upskirt thing or something else
Izandai: Metal Sonic
blind_will: Didn't Robotnic build metal Sonic though?
Juliamon: GapFiller I don't actually know but assume it's the upskirt thing
Wicker_Guide: I mean, being "very done" with the franchise didn't work for James Bond and Daniel Craig for a while
Izandai: Gotta just keep saying 30th.
TheAwkes: You use the 30th graphic, but hastily cross out the 3 and put a 4 beside it.
TheMerricat: @Juliamon "Specifically, Zenless Zone Zero players were upset by fading character models when moving the camera angles into certain positions. Specifically, moving the camera in close to a character, like attempting to look under Burnice's skirt, the character would largely turn invisible." is what google is suggesting
SocraticMethod: Ah yes, no Lyric on the silver screen. What a shame.
mtvcdm: !patreon
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mtvcdm: !store
blind_will: Or, perhaps just start a new channel called Check Point: Deluxe Edition.
mtvcdm: !discord
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GapFiller: apparently people are only now getting mail dated from November
SocraticMethod: @TheMerricat It's less that and more that character used to go translucent when blocking camera and now they went invisible
Wicker_Guide: distance is a lie spread by amazon to justify distribution warehouses
GapFiller: so thats exciting
mtvcdm: !bluesky
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TheMerricat: Chillpoint gets a copyright strike for copycatting Checkpoint. They just need to upload these as "Checkpoint extra chapters"
mtvcdm: !youtube
Snowcookies: ty for the stream
mtvcdm: !contact
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Trymantha:
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SymphonySolstice: gather: the magicing
Juliamon: wonder if it's safe to turn cardview back on
CaptainSpam: Time for some Possom Lodge Commander!
Juliamon: !cardview on
LRRbot: Card viewer enabled
RandomTrivia: One way to find out!
RandomTrivia: Ooooooh
Juliamon: seems it is
GapFiller: Crapshoot HYPE
Izandai: Ooh
DoodlestheGreat: YAYYYYYYY!!!!
Izandai: Hope I remember to toon in for that.
TheMerricat: So... Red Green Commander, does that involve duct tape? Will girls find you handy?
CaptainSpam: Shootin' that crap!
RandomTrivia: Aww butts, I'll be at work during the Crapshoot
Izandai: *tune
RockPusher: crapshoot specials
GapFiller: 2024/05/04 per the wiki
RockPusher:
like the dr who xmas episodes 
RandomTrivia:
Did you ever reshoot the intro?
DoodlestheGreat: MORE YAY!
RandomTrivia: AS IS TRADITION
shadowmaster132: Seriously considering getting up at 6:30am for that
richard_ermen: Oh I love that stream
RockPusher: Drunken Stoicism
CaptainSpam: A Christmas tradition like no other!
richard_ermen: Its a pre-christmas tradition =)
RandomTrivia: Sit and just... be
Snowcookies: need to remember to tune in
GapFiller: 10 Glorious Years of Cam and Ian silently staring at the camera
RandomTrivia: Volcano High is unreasonably cute
DoodlestheGreat: Slightly sad...
RandomTrivia:
richard_ermen: OMH
DoodlestheGreat: LOL
BusTed: TPK! TPK!
KaleidoscopeMind: only 2577 posts on the ep 7 discord thread
LilyOfTheVeil666: Thrink!
Earthenone: the fang-ally
richard_ermen: the ...FANG-nally?
blind_will: Not too closely. Need to look just exactly closely enough.
TimIAm: !next
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Jobot180: So good. Everyone is so good.
mtvcdm: This one generated Some Talk
TheMerricat:
Someone lit a fire...
ghyllnox: If you haven't been following it, please watch the last like 3 episodes before tuning in to the finale
Jobot180: Banger of an episode
Juliamon: Frankie was a one-streamer but it was surprisingly good
SymphonySolstice: frankie was fairly easy to find, on account of him actively chasing you
Juliamon: despite the jumpscare graphic
GapFiller: per the schedule ChillPoint is apparently carrying on like normal over the festive period
mtvcdm: !schedule
RockPusher:
Yay for people having friend and family time on boxing day 
DoodlestheGreat: Aw, no Boxing Day. Well, you can't have everything. (Where would you put it?)
GapFiller: ChillPoint gonna just gouge on Year End listicles
SymphonySolstice: !box
LRRbot: In the box is: a man wondering about box contents
DeM0nFiRe:
o/
blind_will: Goodbye
Snowcookies: bye
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
GapFiller:
hmm End of Year clickbait does basically have the same nutritional value as Xmas candy really
cmdrud87: !next
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