MrGibberish: How they made this from a draft, is amazing
RockPusher:
Everyone wants to fbl their thp from time to time 
Bugberry: @MrGibberish There's a subtheme in Blue of second card drawing, and 2 on-theme rares. Hard to do but not unlikely.
Geldaran: Nice.
Jillexie: lol
BrowneePointz: They could have killed you, but they didn’t
quatoria: he was doing all this intricate delicate stuff and you just shot him in the fact
Fanklok: They chose to lose
quatoria: they REALLY should have just killed you, yeah
BrowneePointz: They wanted to play with their food
MrGibberish: @Bugberry Still, the way they did it was fun
Jillexie: They could have just attacked with everything
klippiatt: “If they are trying to do a weird strategy or in fact if they are trying to do almost any strategy one of the best counters is to just go f'ing kill them.” – Sean “Day[9]” Plott
GapFiller:
RiverGloom: TTSF what's Ian doing today
GapFiller: Xbox controller
Earthenone: fixing an xbox controler i think
Juliamon: fixing his xbox controller again
RiverGloom: kool
Bugberry: flash in Commander on their turn?
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RiverGloom: cant wait to catch the first half of this stream on the VOD
Bugberry: you can destroy the hammer
MoxleyUnhinged: good morning!
Geldaran: What is this, a disney movie?
SmashTCG: kill the sword?
MrPipboy3000: Sace after combat
SmashTCG: after damage
ghizmou: we can destroy at end of turn
Bugberry: 2 for 2
narset6691: u can sac it after to kill it
RiverGloom: james with the big brain plays
herocRuch: yaaay
SmashTCG: in response to your concession, burstlighting
RockPusher:
Thank you Cori, thank you James 
RiverGloom: bye
jacqui_lantern234:
thanks for streaming, you two 
yall are delightful
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MoxleyUnhinged: bye!
sporkraptor:
ceeya
RiverGloom:
RockPusher: Coming up next: Strange man does strange things
GapFiller: no news no CP+ tldr
RiverGloom: how will i get my video game news
GapFiller: RiverGloom good news there is no news
RiverGloom: @GapFiller i guess that's why they say no news is good news
iris_of_ether: Oooh
iris_of_ether: Double ooh
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RiverGloom: Heck yeah!!!!
Juliamon: !thrink
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ritchards: !next
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thanks! feeling a lot better 
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Driosenth: Oh No, did you get one from the batch with sticky A+B buttons?
LordZarano: !quote Ian
LRRbot: Quote #4279: "I don't have any actual car experience." —Ian [2017-06-17]
ritchards: *stops typing* !quote ...
Kentosaurus: please don't quote
Juliamon: Of all the things you've said on stream, THAT the one you're embarrassed by?
Juliamon: whoops
Juliamon: nobody look at me trying to quote Paul pls
Juliamon: !addquote (Paul) [now] Of all the things you've said on stream, THAT'S the one you're embarrassed by? | to Ian
LRRbot: New quote #9230: "Of all the things you've said on stream, THAT'S the one you're embarrassed by?" —Paul, to Ian [2025-01-02]
RockPusher:
Kazuma Kiryu too strong for controllers 
MoxleyUnhinged:
good afternoon from Oz!
brainbosh: I'd assume more games use that button
ghyllnox: At least in the US, the warranty timeframe is for when issues occur, not for when you report them. Usually there's also a reporting window but it can fall outside the actual warranty period
TheDevil_Risen: What's up Ian, how are you doing?
Cptasparagus: I got a KingKong 2 its 1000% worth it
Cptasparagus: best controller i've ever owned
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Cptasparagus: I got mine for like $35
TheDevil_Risen: 250 dollar controller, button worth 10c
TheDevil_Risen: figures
LordZarano: You can get them direct from Gulikit themselves on AliExpress
arcaede_: Sorry i missed what this site is?
TheDevil_Risen: their good for space simming
TheDevil_Risen:
i need to replace my controller tho, its shredded
PMAvers: I honestly forget about paddles all the time.
Master_Gunner: Yeah, now that I have a controller with those back buttons, I have the thumbstick buttons mapped to the back buttons by default.
Earthenone: screwpoint was canceld the week remember
LoadingReadyRun: @Master_Gunner that's a great idea
MoxleyUnhinged: im on my lunch break from my sword-training day-camp. this is a great way to spend it
BusTed: tru tho
Juliamon: Or is a spudger a tiny crowbar?
DeM0nFiRe: Gordon Freeman known for carrying a spudger
TheDevil_Risen: @MoxleyUnhinged That's fun, im on lunch break from work haha
Arclight_Dynamo: Pressure-fit plastic is so heinous. Everything should be machined aluminum with user-accessible machine screws.
MoxleyUnhinged: i probable concussion from sparring later is gonna be *great*
Kentosaurus: C-3PO in episode I with his parts showing
DaxStrife: It's crying out in distress.
accountmadeforants: We're still seeing that occasionally (e.g., the Switch Pro Controller), but what's really frustrating is when they use fake greebles behind transparent parts (there are a few phones like that).
Nigouki: transparent plastic needs highly polished molds which is an extra effort. plus clear plastic tends to be more brittle
VorlonScout: Fun fact about that MS 2.4ghz dongle -- if you have two in the same room, they will irrevocably fight with each other. Even if you have one controller paired with each, the receivers will "steal" each others' controllers when they can.
Master_Gunner: One of the reasons why I went with an 8BitDo controller was that it came with a 2.4GHz dongle. I ain't messing around with bluetooth if I can avoid it.
accountmadeforants: The proprietary thing does serve its purpose, way less overhead, and they can do things like transmit-only I/O which is faster and more battery efficient. (Same reason many wireless keyboards do it.)
RockPusher: Makes for extra-fun fights
KingKool2099: @Master_Gunner My computer never worked with the 2.4GHz stuff. Had to move to bluetooth
Arclight_Dynamo: It's slightly out of phase with the wi-fi signal, and the two signals destructively align every 40 minutes.
Arclight_Dynamo: "Warranty void if seal broken" is illegal in the US - do we know about Canada?
accountmadeforants: Security Torx: AKA, figure out how to break the pin inside the screw so you can use regular Torx
TheDevil_Risen: @Arclight_Dynamo Thanks Rossman!
KingKool2099: how expensive
Arclight_Dynamo: Part vs. component
accountmadeforants: (But yeah, probably not easy with the really really tiny torx bits)
SymphonySolstice: xbox controllers are too big for my tiny raccoon hands
accountmadeforants: I wish controllers had the joysticks at the bottom and a really good d-pad up top
ArdCollider: lol I pestered siracusa a *lot* for Unix, Apple, and U2 shit when we were both at the same university
accountmadeforants: Or yeah, the reverse, not sure how I ended up with that earlier comment
Master_Gunner: For my hands, and how I play games, I actually really like the xbox controller layout.
Arclight_Dynamo: I mean... you have a 3D printer. Want to mod an Xbox controller?
LordZarano: WiiU Pro iirc
Nigouki: you want the glorious Steam Controller :V
Kentosaurus: yeah, the weird steam controller
LurkerSpine: Victrix might have one
7gorobei: there are modular controllers with swappable pods of sticks/pads
Mai_Andra: The ones I've seen are modular, so you can flip the positions.
ritchards: So you're saying there's a tech space for LRR to get into...
Cptasparagus: Turtle beach stealth pivot is kind of like that but theyre offset still
SymphonySolstice: yeah that's why I like the switch controllers, the stick is right on my thumb on the left hand, and then I move the right one with my thumb joint instead of the fingerprint
SymphonySolstice: I wish so bad they could connect to the PC
7gorobei: thrustmaster eswap pro has full modular top sections
phoenixletmeuseadashd: The joycons can be connected to pc!
accountmadeforants:
You can even use the RingCon on PC if you really want to 
accountmadeforants: (The RingCon being the ring thing that was used for RingFit)
Shadwhawk: Looks like the eswap pro only lets you move 3/4 of the 'sections. The buttons aren't movable and are in the standard position
KragonEx: are there any homebrew games that are goos with that @accountmadeforants
KragonEx: good8
TheDevil_Risen: it's better
phoenixletmeuseadashd: Valve has serious dev ADHD but yeah the Deck helped a lot
TheDevil_Risen: and the input mapper is far better
ritchards: just a lil guy!
TheDevil_Risen: yeah its a step backwards for accessability
ritchards: weights are useful for vibration
KragonEx: Also, every time some tinker tailor..., im reminded of my favorite DS9 character garak
DarknessKingCoH: I feel like the people buying the elite series controllers probably already have those buttons memorized.
DaxStrife:
The "everything's fine" clip. 
Cptasparagus: yeah ps5 controller batteries honk
LurkerSpine: And people wonder why I prefer the Xbox AA battery setup
MoxleyUnhinged:
@TheDevil_Risen
KragonEx: i broke one of my ps4 controllers, i loved the process of removing them and replacing them with glow in the dark ones
Arclight_Dynamo: Petition for USB-B.
KragonEx: the thumbsticks
KragonEx: this is alot of work just to get to the buttons
Master_Gunner: apparently why the original XBox controller was the way it was, is they locked in the design for the circuit boards before they even hired someone to design the actual controller.
MoxleyUnhinged: @Master_Gunner oh good - forced product development
LoadingReadyRun: @LordZarano USB type B was only for USB 1/2, right? USB-C just uses the same port for everything
KragonEx: @Master_Gunner that sounds like microsoft
Sethalidos: @LoadingReadyRun correct
RockPusher:
phoenixletmeuseadashd: that's also how it goes...
Sethalidos: USB-B had micro and mini
7gorobei: jenga
MoxleyUnhinged: OPA!
RockPusher: Honestly answering anything definitively about the USB specs is extremely difficult
Master_Gunner: @LoadingReadyRun USB-C is actually independent of the USB 1/2/3/etc protocols. It's just a physical connector that's also the standard for certain implementations of USB 3(.4 Ultra SuperSpeed Power Delivery or whatever they call it these days).
Arclight_Dynamo: There is a USB 3.2 USB-B standard.
RockPusher: Massive nerd that I am, even I have little desire to read through the many many documents that make up the USB specs nowadays
Master_Gunner: There is a USB 3 Type B port that has an extra stub on it for the additional pins.
Arclight_Dynamo: I really hate what they've done to USB standards naming...
KeytarCat: always good to have clean pads
UtilityPunk: Fry's in the title for a reason
LoadingReadyRun: @LordZarano we have a bunch of those cables. I think they were mostly used on early usb3 hard drives (before the usb-c spec was locked in)
Master_Gunner: Yeah, USB 3 Type B and Micro-B disappeared pretty quickly after USB-C came in.
Cptasparagus: whats the budget for TTSF? theres a build your own fractal vise kit on amazon for like $3k
Master_Gunner: oh yeah, that solder sucker is really nice
7gorobei: marshall uses rodico putty to hold things when servicing watches, you just need a giant wad of rodico
SnackPak_: ooo, a tip that isn't plastic
Sethalidos: Ian
LordZarano: Also, yes both those images were C to B cables. For maximum cursedness
UtilityPunk: I found a lot of desoldering braids don't come with enough flux. Good flux makes them *really* nice to use. Otherwise, solder suckers are satisfying
Arclight_Dynamo: God, USB-C truly is the cloaca of electronics, huh?
Juliamon: oh noooOOoooooOOOooOOOo
Zevodactyl: May have to call someone a solder sucker next time I need a creative non-insult
UWDJohn: melting a little solder on the tip might help
coachNelly: oh we can keep blaming microsoft even if you've sautered this a bit
phoenixletmeuseadashd: if it's the controller how does replacing the switch fix it? shell is set in such a way to deform the switch somehow?
SnackPak_:
coachNelly:
RockPusher:
Cptasparagus: they call him Dr. Solder Sucker
BusTed: blobs of solder
LoadingReadyRun: @phoenixletmeuseadashd I wonder if anyone has found the root cause (considering that it seems to be a known problem)
RockPusher: Mr. Blobby should not be allowed anywhere near a soldering iron
DandyGeek:
Cptasparagus: @LoadingReadyRun Ive always had problems with Xbox controller shoulders going back to the 360, I always just used to shim them with paper
Juliamon: ah, an ongoing design flaw
MalFnord: Why would they fix it? It means they can sell more controllers when the shoulder buttons break
Arclight_Dynamo: IIRC, there was some sort of voltage oopsie design flaw that made middle-click mouse button switches go bad very quickly. I wonder if it's a similar problem, here?
Cptasparagus: we should be thankful that we don't have controllers-as-a-service
MalFnord: Yet. We don't have controllers-as-a-service YET
LathosTiran:
could argue that stadia was service as controller? 
ritchards: "get up, down and left as the base service, right is DLC!"
SquareDotCube: The SNES controller is very simple yet very resilient, it just doesn't have the ergonomic improvements of today
Cptasparagus: @LathosTiran unironically my stadia controller is still going strong
SquareDotCube: when it's trying to play taps through your multimeter that's a pretty telling sign
Cptasparagus: I got it for free, actually I was kind of paid $50 to beta test it because my friend who works for google gave me the one he got for a christmas present, and they refunded me $50 when they shut the service down
Juliamon: ha
coachNelly: fold in the cheese
DaxStrife: "XBox controllers require force" sounds exactly like an XBox ad.
Arclight_Dynamo: God, early 2000s CPUs...
rosesmcgee: Use a certain amount of the Force, Luke
Karimsicle: The amount of force where you go "is this right?" then it works.
LordZarano: "Push on it with exactly 5.2 Newtons"
Nigouki: time to get out those super tiny modeling drill bits to really clean the hole
ExtraWubs: "WE ARE A TUBE UNSEALED AT BOTH ENDS" - Scary Beej
LordZarano: !findquote bottom
LRRbot: Quote #8422: "Don't you hate it when the bottom half of your hot dog is monkey feet?" —Paul [2023-01-09]
GasCityGaming: Princess Auto loving Beej
LoadingReadyRun:
clamping down a cpu in the early 2000s with a slot head screwdriver was pretty terrifying 
offbeatwitch: kind Beej, gentle Beej. Princess Auto-loving Beej, who exfoliates regularly
SnackPak_: ayyy
NotCainNorAbel: @LoadingReadyRun I just got anxiety remembering having to do that.
ExtraWubs: work beej, home beej
ExtraWubs: furry beej
Juliamon: merch guy Beej
ExtraWubs: it is unhealthy how much I quote lrr on the daily
Sethalidos: !findquote princess
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ExtraWubs: !findquote auto
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ExtraWubs: I found a brandnew looking corsair powersupply at goodwill
ExtraWubs: all the paperwork, zipties, zero scratches.
ExtraWubs: it seems horrifying but its a 60 dollar power supply for 10 bucks, might try it and if It doesnt work I recycle
VorlonScout: @ExtraWubs I'm not saying that it's a bad idea. But I *am* saying that if cursed treasure from TTRPG dungeons existed in the real world, that would be it.
VorlonScout: Or mimics.
ExtraWubs: @VorlonScout Yeah its horrifying, but I mean, I still find it cursed that good will is allowed to sell used powerstrips...
protojman: there's a system!
DaxStrife: "No-clean" meaning it can't be cleaned?
7gorobei: no need to clean with alcohol after soldering
Arclight_Dynamo: Google says low-temp solders are more brittle.
ritchards: we can also make stuff up, just visit the House of Lies!
Arclight_Dynamo: Ah-ha! Low-temp solders are brittle because they're made with bismuth, which is evidently a brittle metal.
SquareDotCube: If you don't think bismuth crystals are cool, you're lying
SquareDotCube: and you can even grow them!
serramarkov: I'm used to silver and gold solder.
ExtraWubs: mmm peptobismal
empyreon: delicious!
ritchards: pepsi bismuth
RockPusher: Deliciously sweet
Arclight_Dynamo: Solder should come with, like, a Gas Mark equivalent so you know what to set your iron to.
Arclight_Dynamo: "Set iron to Gas Mark 4"
DeM0nFiRe: Counter intuitively, lowere temp soldering irons can increase the risk of burning out components, because getting the part you want up to temp slowly gives more time for the heat to dissapate to places you dont want it to be
Juliamon: !thrink
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LoadingReadyRun: it is sort of the same as a blunt knife being more dangerous then a sharp one
ritchards: "for the vine!" is a heck of a warcry
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Mollylele: like putting back a Rubiks cube component in the wrong orientation
Mollylele: pro strats
Juliamon: my brain is aggressively trying to make a "put the x (cross) back in xbox" joke
ritchards: putting the + back in +bo+
aClonedPickle: the hamburger is the powerhouse of the xbox controller
Juliamon: the controller's achilles button
better_seasons: umm wasn't the rubber under the daughterboard?
LoadingReadyRun: @better_seasons good catch!
ritchards: just raw jacking it
Nigouki: can't have a broken off headphone jack if it was never attaached to begin with!
Arclight_Dynamo: The antennas are under the daughter board. Are they meant to go over?
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Lysander_salamander: hello everyone
Cptasparagus: test twice cut none
Lysander_salamander: yay, tinkering with a controller! What was wrong with it?
Lysander_salamander: oh, a button
Cptasparagus: @Lysander_salamander trigger button
Lysander_salamander: was it sticking?
RockPusher: Always monitor your hamburger
Cptasparagus: left stick didnt really look like it was going but maybe that was just the stream capture
MoxleyUnhinged: and sparring break! i have returned!
Lysander_salamander: I wonder how difficult it would be to install custom handles
Cptasparagus: @Lysander_salamander handles as in the part you grab?
cuzuki: the resistance actually does work on the PC version of Final FAntasy XIV with the dualsense controller!
SnackPak_: neat
Arclight_Dynamo: Oh, that's cool.
DarknessKingCoH: Yeah all of the surfaces Astro is running on are played thru the controller speaker.
BusTed:
BusTed: or at least another TTSF episode
DarknessKingCoH: Or if Microsoft will fix it for free like Nintendo does with stick drift
Juliamon: Supply chain is turbofucked ever since the pandemic
SnackPak_:
ritchards: are the joysticks not fully centered?
TheWriterAleph:
Arclight_Dynamo: Gates?
LurkerSpine: gate
DandyGeek: square, octagonal, round
DandyGeek: I mean, there are more but that’s really getting into the stick weeds
LordZarano: Gamecube had an octagonal gate. One of the many things that make it one of the greatest controllers of all time
RockPusher:
ButButTheJesus: Ian.
SnackPak_:
Wrexadecimal:
NotCainNorAbel:
500 - IAN!
Mollylele: can someone add that quote please
DeM0nFiRe:
brainbosh: Eventually that outro will be a whole song
RockPusher: !quote 9224
LRRbot: Quote #9224: "It's me that's the problem." —Ian [2024-12-29]
Mai_Andra:
OOF Club 
Mai_Andra:
didn't pay $60 to block 
Juliamon: That is factually incorrect
LordZarano: You could press A+B A+X or A+Y very easily. Can't do that with diamond button layout, B and X get in the way of you pressing A+Y
Juliamon: Still technically within the 12 Days?
RockPusher: Okay!
LurkerSpine: Alex is the guest
RockPusher: Alex on horse club
ritchards: !thrink
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definenull: this is definitely the finale, right? \j
LurkerSpine:
100
DeM0nFiRe:
o/
Nigouki: Thanks for the stream!
Phailhammer:
cya
CrossXhunteR: just in time to tune in
Orxolon: g night
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