Didero: !next
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Duffadash: Hey paisanos!
TXC2: title change!
LoadingReadyRun: Please hold, game got an update between Friday evening and now
TXC2 continues to hold
Duffadash: @LoadingReadyRun How rude
Didero: Good evening!
TXC2: hi Didero
TXC2: CONTACT
PMAvers: The Great Barrel Nerf of 2025
HungryTanuki:
Hi everyone 
TXC2:
I KNEW IT! , I knew if I got to go to the toilet the stream would start 
nyxlux: Hi everyone!
Didero:
Thanks for the help, TXC2
Statist42:
Hi friends! 
jamiejamemes: To me, all owls are Superb
couchboyj:
HungryTanuki: SourPls
kamkazi: Bazaar Deux ? SourPls
jamiejamemes: How Bazaar, how Bazaar
gualdhar: Nice card game you got here, be a shame if someone took all the cards
jamiejamemes: What if the cards were the roguelike elements we used along the way
TXC2: Here we GO!
ShaneLeeAtk: Banger. Alert.
h3rsh3yb4r: MY CARD!
jamiejamemes: This intro’s so good
HungryTanuki: Hi Ben !
TXC2: Hello Wheeler
Tommadness: I agree, Ben
jamiejamemes: ugh
Didero: Hi Wheeler
Didero: How new?
FurthestChunk: doing aight
TXC2: new enough
Diabore: is this your card? its not my card so it must be your card, theres no one else around
TXC2: !patreon
h3rsh3yb4r: i expected you to do this intro in australian
fiftymcnasty: Big Pyg time?
TXC2: !store
spinebustertee: Excited to see Pyg and/or Dooley today!
Diabore: oh hey we got gems now
nymistrya: Hell yeah wooze stream
Diabore: it is certainly a card adjacent game
DoomBringerIL: GUMMYSSS
gualdhar: Wouldn't be the first time someone streamed on LRR while high
TXC2: the mighty power of James' credit card
jamiejamemes: Sad this is post Beast of Burden disabling
kamkazi:
Dooley must suffer
TXC2: gualdhar really?
Tommadness: oh shit are you Dooley's voice actor?
fiftymcnasty: @jamiejamemes it was way too broken
lightfut: Dooley! Just a lil guy!
jamiejamemes: @fiftymcnasty oh I’m aware lmao
JohnnyRifle12: edible hangover I call it
fiftymcnasty: @jamiejamemes wouldnt have been a fun stream if it was still creeping around
HungryTanuki:
FurthestChunk: part of me wants to post the NL Dooley breakdown video
DoomBringerIL: did twitch just auto-beep u??
TXC2: DoomBringerIL no, he has a soundboard
fiftymcnasty: Oh boy
RitualGlitchZ: You got this!
Diabore: companion core sounds fun, more friends is more good imo
TXC2: I say shield, shield was good last week
AllTheWeasels: half seems optimistic
TXC2: so Israel exists in this fantasy world
fiftymcnasty: Left and right of core placement is important with Dooley
jamiejamemes: They nerfed the crap out of Barrel in between streams, now it only scales off adjacent non-weapons
Diabore: stall tactics lets go
niccus: imagine having adjacent friends
TXC2: time to do Psilocybin
likelyDangerous: rainbolt is coming
Diabore: is the victory banner new or am i just a dumbass
jamiejamemes: @diabore it is new
11Dot: Yeah, there was a patch since the last stream
Diabore: still love chris army knife, s tier name
jamiejamemes: Dooley’s item names are A+
moseph_jedi: that looks real good
TXC2: Wheeler LRRns so you don't have too
kanofudo: the dooley "meta" is to build to the left of the core to overcharge the core and go pew pew, but overcharging your shield items seems good too
fiftymcnasty: yeah, you probably want a couple games under you belt to understand what things are donig
jamiejamemes: This merchant cracks me up
Duffadash: "Discounts for pees"
11Dot: Dooley is definetly the most "positioning matters" characters of the 3 so far
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Tommadness: hell yeah we full stall
kanofudo: brick buddy is bricked up with friends
moseph_jedi: tanking it
Tommadness: oh god our hard counter
teejayrivers:
I think Vanessa might need to see a chiropractor 
Genie_M: This is like backpack heroes with the asynchronous multiplayer style?
fiftymcnasty: @Genie_M yes
12o13: I love this game. I am also hot trash at it
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TXC2: not quite scaling as much?
kanofudo: this is the same thing that happens when i play dooley, i feel like i've got a build but i'm just barely not as good as everything i'm fighting
fiftymcnasty: Barrel was so broken it did get a nerf this week
12o13: I dont catch much LRR live. whats the backseating rule?
TXC2: !backseat
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12o13: coolio thanks txc2
Diabore: !heychat
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12o13: I mean, dont get me wrong. I cant help his strat. I just want to stay on the good side of the rules
Thadrin46: I love rocket launcher. The multicast is so good.
Fanklok: There are a lot of ways to get extra xp
Genie_M: That wasn't fair fight
Fanklok: You only fight people who were on the same day
HungryTanuki: Friends !
Thadrin46: HARMY
Darkstorm257: Missing xp is a major consequence of failing an npc fight
jamiejamemes: Harmadillo!
Scarbble: harmadillo, lol
fiftymcnasty: Harm is quite good
12o13: I am so bad at doolie. ever since they nerfed poison months ago
Paranundrox: Harmadillo is messed up
TXC2: man to have been in the room when they came up with these names
RassilonDND: I do love puns. This game looks cool. I'll pick it up after it exits early access
Didero: Is it me or is the game kind of loud?
TXC2: Didero it's louder then Wheeler yes
jamiejamemes: Oh yeah it’s a little loud
TXC2: thanks Wheeler
RassilonDND: That's better than wheeler
jamiejamemes: Thanks wheeler
Didero: Thanks
12o13: do they have graphic settings yet? It chugs on my machine
RassilonDND: *thanks
12o13: granted I use a toaster
Invitare: but what if there's a bomb?
12o13: LITTLE TREX! So cute
TXC2: dang we got rolled
AllTheWeasels: that was just a glass cannon huh
Genie_M: These friend names are....
rabbitgta: Hey, Wheeler, im here to back seat. You should play the game the way you want, boom got em.
Diabore: we are so on fire
fiftymcnasty: its marked up because its enchanted
Genie_M: So huge though
kanofudo: it's enchanted
Tommadness: It's an enchanted item
Darkstorm257: It's enchanted so it's double price
teejayrivers: enchanted items are twice as expensive to buy as normal
fiftymcnasty: 'sheilded' is an enchant
TXC2: this bunker feels like a trap to me
11Dot: Guns arent friends
11Dot: except for Gunny
AllTheWeasels: having only a little burn seems like it's not doing much right?
TXC2:
guns are comrades in arms
Genie_M: Your wall buddy is in a different slot
11Dot: Defense builds on most characters take time to scale
AllTheWeasels: oops also poison
fiftymcnasty: the Lich is almost unbeatable
TXC2: just a little poison, as a treat
LemonOnRye:
chocolate rebate 
Genie_M: 3 sec cool down though
Thadrin46: The item i'd be after here is tge combat core frame thing.
sokolov23: Heeeey, you are playing my game. Ayoooo
TXC2: "hey, nice skin" a phase that in games in completely normal, but IRL will land you in jail
Thadrin46: He's very ve4y tough...
Fanklok: Have you read his fancy skill?
Thadrin46: That rebirth is such bullsh...
Paranundrox: yeah Dooley pretty much locks in his build day 1
HungryTanuki: Warm up run !
TXC2: this is just the warm up
Paranundrox: for Armored Core you're looking for Pulse Rifle and Duct Tape alongside Harmadillo
sokolov23: Sometimes it's correct to stash the Core
jamiejamemes: I feel like a lot of the scarier doolies have more to the left of the core than the right
Fanklok: Getting poisoned isn't as bad as getting bonked for 3 times your mac hp
Thadrin46: I've had a really tough time with non-ignition core since thry nerfed the companion core
teejayrivers: I think there's about 6-7 different dooley cores but you can only pick one of three chosen at random
TXC2: so what does burn do?
fiftymcnasty: @TXC2 ticks damage ever .5 seconds and reduced by 1
Thadrin46: Burns your opponeng to death
sokolov23: It's a DOT that ticks twice per second. When it ticks the Burn reduces by 1.
11Dot: Deals ticking damage, decreases by 1 each instance, Half damage to shields
sokolov23: Poison only ticks 1 per second but doesn't decrement.
12o13: burn stacks, does damage equal to sstack
Paranundrox: yeah Duct Tape is really good in this patch
TXC2: thanks chat
itsr67: burn also hits shield, poison goes through it
Paranundrox: you can also get it as a day 1 drop from the Banana fight
12o13: burn ticks faster than poison too
itsr67: both have their pro's and cons
Fanklok: I got a duct tape with 2 apropos chapaue. It was silly
Jensling: "Non-weapon items" "PLASMA GRENADE"
itsr67: kino
12o13: laucher is bae
teejayrivers: There used to be a bunch of skills that gave bonuses whenever you gained burn (as opposed to inflicting burn on your opponent) but most of those skills were removed
Thadrin46: Launcher with ig core rocks
sokolov23: Multitcast triggers the "use" trigger each time
Jensling:
How is a *grenade* not a weapon? 
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itsr67: dang they had the regen
itsr67:
12o13: 5 reen on day 1 is a lot
FurthestChunk: wait the rocket launcher isn't ammo based?
sokolov23: @Jensling only items that deal damage are weapons in this game
kanofudo: that's so huge
itsr67:
XyZiron: reroll imo
Thadrin46: Non
Paranundrox: I think largely non-weapons
AllTheWeasels: it looks like our burn items that aren't also damage aren't weapons
itsr67: 80% of your end board tends to be non weapons
teejayrivers: Basically, if it has a red number it's a weapon, if not then it isn't
Thadrin46: Weapon is the red direct damage box.
Paranundrox: the positioning is always a puzzle. I'm not sure if it makes more sense to have welding helmet charging core buffing missiles or missiles charging core buffing helmet
Tynermeister: I went to school with a Barb Dwyer
Thadrin46: Curio stuff is weird low level buff stuff
kanofudo: aiden is great survivability
12o13: first aiden can be real strong sustain
itsr67: word
HungryTanuki: Ouch
RitualGlitchZ: And he's a lil guy
AllTheWeasels: oh
h3rsh3yb4r: al cannon, no ball
kanofudo: wow
Thadrin46: Aiden is great
jamiejamemes: That person had a crazy day 2 build
XyZiron: you could have taken the events that gave exp
Fanklok: Don't lose the npc fights then
12o13: npc fights are huge to win
kanofudo: that person was xp maxing, you took shops and got more item options. no wrong answers
bondrood: oh HELL yeah
sokolov23: I think rocket launcher maybe should be furthest right in this build, since it gets 3x the bonus from the Burn Skill and the Core buffs
Paranundrox: were they the gold fights
Paranundrox: the extra exp stacks up
12o13: you can random encounter npc fights too. which they might have
Fanklok: It also charges the core 3 times if it's on the left
TXC2: hello bondrood welcome
bondrood: hello!
12o13: with duct tape, I think missle launcher on left is better
kanofudo: yeah launcher left charges the core 3 times cause of the multicast
sokolov23: it depends on the situation, for sure
TXC2:
Wheeler? netgaming? for shame
Fanklok: Rarran, that's the guy that turned Voxy into a hearthstone player
Thadrin46: I cant remember - is ig core adjacent burn items get buffed?
sokolov23: But I think in this case he can run the fast friends to the left along with Duct Tape
Paranundrox: items to the right
XyZiron: put in friend?
XyZiron: you leveled up
12o13: you could have pout your friend in before fight
sokolov23: "Upgrade all your small Bronze items" could be an encounter
fiftymcnasty: dog
sokolov23: Woof
jamiejamemes: noooo
Decaped: good boy
itsr67: dog
fiftymcnasty: big dog
XyZiron: dog is a fun build
Fanklok: Dog can get real real big
TXC2: oh no, big critties!
XyZiron: put friends next to aiden
sokolov23: bomb wants to be next to First Aiden
tehfewl: GOT THAT DOG IN HIM
sokolov23: if possible
spinebustertee: Dog is such a fun build around
tehfewl: sorry caps
12o13: dog so strong, I never beat it
sokolov23: omega ray high roll
MackWalnut: <message deleted>Here is a beta code for the first person who wants it: af964119-b9b6-475f-a00f-041fdda7f88a
jamiejamemes: Omega Ray pog
CrossXhunteR: is it still just the 3 playable characters, or have they added more?
XyZiron: read your rightmost item
jamiejamemes: @crossxhunter still just the three
TXC2: MackWalnut please don't do that, we have a bot for giving out codes in chat
sokolov23: @CrossXhunteR Just the 3
teejayrivers: Still just 3. They're planning to release a 4th hero when they go into open beta, but no one knows when that is
BusTed: that is a lot of burn
MackWalnut: My bad!
TXC2: (or we did at least)
CrossXhunteR: it was close
kanofudo: duct tape should probably be next to 2 items because it triggers for adjacent
bondrood: definitely want tape next to rocket as well
12o13: actually really close fight
bondrood: 3x 13 shield on each cast
Thadrin46: There are three more in the wings. Jules, mak and the mechanic girl
bondrood: snail epico
XyZiron: yeah we would have won that npc fight if our items were in the correct order
bondrood: holy proboscis gaming
jamiejamemes: Is Jules the cook girl? I’m super excited for the food synergies
TXC2: !codefall
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XyZiron: with ducktape next to rocket launcher and core, the ray between core and the shield item, and the friend next to aiden
itsr67: dooley does have low hp
12o13: that tool looked great. read it
TXC2: MackWalnut hopefully that link in that command still works
itsr67: correct
XyZiron: yes
Paranundrox: yes it works from the inventory
bondrood: I think so
teejayrivers: Yep, you can leave it in stash
12o13: yes, you do not need to play it
XyZiron: please move ducktape after this fight
bondrood: oh! burned
XyZiron: ajacent item
XyZiron: grant shield
TXC2: XyZiron please stop backseating
satyropodobny: eww a dooley
itsr67:
FurthestChunk: !backseating
sokolov23: We went back and forth quite a bit as to whether we should have stuff that works from Stash.
XyZiron: sorry
itsr67: HELL yeah
HungryTanuki: !heychat
bondrood: OH HELL YEA
TXC2: !backseat
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TXC2: sokolov23 you one of the devs on this?
jamiejamemes: Oh hell yeah scrap
sokolov23: @TXC2 yes
Paranundrox: at diamond level it upgrades the core and cuts 1s off the cooldown
TXC2: sokolov23 neat!
itsr67: oh shoot, devin chat
LemonOnRye: Devin chat
bondrood: oh hell yeah
bondrood: super good for tape
jamiejamemes: Whoa devin chat
MackWalnut: Here is a beta code with the last 3 digits changed to ###: af964119-b9b6-475f-a00f-041fdda7f### The last three digits are '88a'
bondrood: the junk items are pretty cracked depending on what youre running
jabisbad: oh cog all ye bomb buddies
AllTheWeasels:
they are on the opposite side of the board from our other friend, it's not all the bomb buddies fault 
jamiejamemes: Is the core a friend or just tech? I can never remember
sokolov23: @jamiejamemes only Companion Core is a friend
itsr67: burn core is tech
teejayrivers: Grand founder just means you bought one of the founder packs I think
bondrood: IDK what pieces do anymore since 2 patches so if I have tactics they might be outdated
Paranundrox: if we get our burn above their shield we neutralize the damage on Force Field
itsr67: nice
jamiejamemes: @sokolov23 thanks
bondrood: niceu
HungryTanuki:
AllTheWeasels: what is their weapon that the damage is so variable?
bondrood: EPICO
kanofudo: omega ray could stand to be between core and mask, it buffs adjacents
Darkstorm257: @AllTheWeasels It deals damage equal to how much shield they have
Paranundrox: @AllTheWeasels Force Field does damage based on shield
itsr67:
AllTheWeasels: that explains why they stopped dealing damage one the burn started going
bondrood: theyre friends!
AllTheWeasels: ty @Darkstorm257 @Paranundrox
12o13: they are buddies!
Paranundrox: no they're the guys who hold the bombs
satyropodobny: so do bath bombs
Paranundrox: the bombs are just a bonus
bondrood: very true
FurthestChunk: only if your friend is scottish
jamiejamemes: Non weapons counting stuff like silencers and other poison implements is very funny
12o13: the trex is sooo cute
bondrood: seems cool
bondrood: you the player
Paranundrox: gain is when burn is applied to you
LemonOnRye: oh, that seems really cool with self burn
sokolov23: Yep
Paranundrox: correct
FurthestChunk: that sounds like a great way to set yourself on fire
sokolov23: It does work against players/monsters too that burn you too though.
itsr67: pyrocarbon can only appear at gold or higher
11Dot: Cool LEDS is a phenominal item in most builds
jamiejamemes: whoa what a great shop
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bondrood: interesting
fiftymcnasty: How long ago was the build? There have been balancing patching coming hot and heavy every couple of weeks
TXC2: "JJ the jet plane: it's like My mother the car, but a dudebro becomes an 747"
jamiejamemes: I don’t think helmet scales much on upgrade, oddly
sokolov23: The thing about the self-burn is that, say Burn both players 5, if you have no Burn on yourself deals a max of 5 to start, but if you are burning the enemy then it's a lot more than 5. So it's symmetrical but it's better if you are burning more.
Paranundrox: I love Pyg items
sokolov23: @fiftymcnasty we try and patch something every 2 weeks or so... it was longer over Christmas
bondrood: pyg is too good
Genie_M: Chomp
FurthestChunk: that dog is so fucked
jamiejamemes: Pyg’s a little overturned this update
12o13: imo pyg is strongest. that dog
bondrood: im a hater though
Paranundrox: Dooley is a lot more set, Pyg feels like you're making a lot more decisions
satyropodobny: Not all Jebalians are pacifists bro, educate yourself
TXC2: it's a pyg eat pyg world, and I'm wearing dooley underwear .
itsr67:
jamiejamemes: Fear of Bonk
LemonOnRye:
dev, can you add a blue dot to the game? I want RGB with Burn and Poison. Totally reasonable request
TXC2: install the fear of god, but I'm dyslexic
FurthestChunk: i mean with pyg you got the fear og dog
sokolov23: haha
BusTed:
Paranundrox: legally not a weapon
teejayrivers: "I'm a pacifist" *sells flame cannon*
TXC2: LemonOnRye easy, add freeze
LemonOnRye: truuu
LordZarano: The Death Ray was meant to be used for peace!
alphi_gabriel: Peace is when you have a WMD trained on someone and forcing them to be peaceful
bondrood: banessa
spiffinn: does the core boost items to its right? is there a reason to not put it more left?
Fanklok: It's not a weapon if it just sets people on fire
TXC2:
it's really cool that my brain handed me the note that freeze is already in the game only AFTER I made that post
satyropodobny: I heard she doesn't use paint
vinopinguino: They fly now?
itsr67: dooley does take some learning
Paranundrox: @spiffinn items to its left charge the core as well
spiffinn: oh ok thanks
bondrood: he was great a few patches ago but I think he's been nerfed p aggressively
jamiejamemes: Shield Bash pog
12o13: at 1 time dooley was the strongest, so I believe it bond
fiftymcnasty: @bondrood hes still good, but not brainless any more
jamiejamemes: HOLY that skill
AllTheWeasels: that looked like a great reward for us wowie
LemonOnRye: i'd take pride in that, game hard
TXC2: a win is a win, celebrate
HungryTanuki: That skill lokks good !
bondrood: @fiftymcnasty i have to see his pieces but that makes sense
bondrood: god I love solar farm
itsr67: man i'm a sucker for solar farm too
alphi_gabriel: The game is still so charming even after playing for a while
CuteTeaGoat:
hi hi
Dr_fragenstien: orba
Paranundrox: @alphi_gabriel the pace of patches really keeps things feeling fresh
TXC2: hello CuteTeaGoat welcome
jamiejamemes: Isn’t it Superb Owl day?
bondrood: RIP
itsr67:
NonMint: It is indeed time for the superb owl.
jamiejamemes:
HungryTanuki:
Warm up game x2
Paranundrox: Pyg Time?
Paranundrox: hell yeah
Thadrin46: The US version of the Gray cup
TXC2:
it's Kansas city proves it sold it's collective soul to the devil proof day again
TXC2: !break
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alphi_gabriel: @Paranundrox Defo liked the changes they made recently though I think Alpacamel is too strong
A_Dub888: Hi gamers, how Bazaar? How Bazaar?
Paranundrox: @alphi_gabriel its been disabled
alphi_gabriel: @Paranundrox Cool
TXC2: hello A_Dub888 welcome
Paranundrox: Beast of Burden was disabled like a day or two after the patch went live (also the crab claw is bugged currently so that's out)
A_Dub888: !card beast of burden
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alphi_gabriel: @Paranundrox I had a very degen Beast with Freeze enchantment and 14 multicast. Got me 10 wins but felt like I cheated
Paranundrox: Icy Hogwash is my favorite Pyg item/enchant combo
jamiejamemes: I thought the patch review video for this patch was really funny
TXC2: and we're back
Paranundrox: lotta buy/sell and econ stuff
0x6772: Bacon?
HungryTanuki: I've just relaised but does each characters have their own item pools ?
NonMint: Just pulled a Tuktuk Rubblefort.
gawag_: i expect you to go ham
Paranundrox: @HungryTanuki yes
A_Dub888: sounds boaring
jamiejamemes: Oh wow day 1 silver dog
fiftymcnasty: dog is good
CuteTeaGoat: pup
Paranundrox: dog is strong
bondrood: pretty good
HungryTanuki: @Paranundrox Thanks !
bondrood: yeah
bondrood: spare change good
fiftymcnasty: pyg does a lot of econ stuff
TheAwkes: Fingers crossed for gumballs?
jamiejamemes: Gumballs, loot, spare change etc
FurthestChunk: oh spare change and chocolate sound busto
bondrood: stuff like spare change, chocolate, and gumballs are small items
fiftymcnasty: chocolate is good for dog
sokolov23: Pinatas
bondrood: there are some junk items as well
alphi_gabriel: Even loot items and items from the Junk Yard
jamiejamemes: XP is a little busted, even the devs have said so
Paranundrox: pyg can boost early and take some of the stronger fights
bondrood: XP is really good \
HungryTanuki:
Paranundrox: so at bronze piggy bank breaks even
Paranundrox: and it makes you money at higher tiers
bondrood: the non-merchant encounters can give XP which can give a huge advantage
sokolov23: BIG DOG
spiffinn: saphlily is quite the name
jamiejamemes: I think you clear them super hard
ipoddodd: dog getting swole?
bondrood: IDK how good the level up rewards are currently but I'd imagine its still worth to slam XP
sokolov23: Dog be lifting
Mr_Horrible: dog not skipping Bite Strength Day
bondrood: the big dog!
sokolov23: @bondrood hitting the enchantment level is pretty critical
TXC2: dog not skipping jaw day
Fanklok: Did the Pack Beast get disable?
sokolov23: @Fanklok yes
Fanklok: That's hilarious
Paranundrox: there is a medium weapons build for pyg which is quite strong
A_Dub888: @txc2 Dawg with the Jawg
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Paranundrox: on Pyg Jungle Ruins has an event that gives you 2 econ
TXC2:
A_Dub888
jamiejamemes: Ruins is so cracked for pig
bondrood: @sokolov23 youre definitely right
Didero: sweet, free chocolate
Paranundrox: income means more buy sell which means more dog
bondrood: I like to play the higher level item builds just for the flashy boards
salamisuperstar: He's XPilled
Mr_Horrible: "To hell with the income" <- this is how you know he's not American
Paranundrox: the big thing is learning the damage breakpoints
TXC2: "to hell with the income" Who are you, and what have you done with Wheeler?
bondrood: stuff like the old lighthouse or the big ice landmark
TXC2:
sokolov23: We are looking at putting the XP onto the healthbar like the Coins so it's less bad if you lose to the monsters.
Paranundrox: we need like ~25 dps to win this fight iirc
teejayrivers: @sokolov23 I like this idea, it feels like a good change. Just my opinion though
bondrood: is there some spreadsheet with all the necessary DPS thresholds for the encounters
A_Dub888: @txc2 if he cared about income, he wouldn’t be charging so much to James’s card
Paranundrox: Royal Blade
Invitare: a cat
Invitare: wait no
HungryTanuki: Treats ?
TXC2: !advice
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CuteTeaGoat: pet the dog
bondrood: I know very little about pyg
Paranundrox: or some healing items to go with weights
TXC2:
A_Dub888 that's James' money, not Wheeler's, Wheeler don't care
Paranundrox: we did lose our ai fight
Didero: The dog also attacks pretty slowly
bondrood: ye
Paranundrox: 3 experience for a gold fight is almost half a level
Fanklok: Vending machine, cash register, gumball machine, piggle jar
teejayrivers: It would have given you +3 XP I think
IntegralHamster: AI fight is a huge chunk of exp
bondrood: the npc encounters are important asl
ipoddodd: the experience is huge
sokolov23: Now Cash Register will spawn Silver Spare Change which are worth more
IntegralHamster: Comes with playing more, they all have preset boards
Paranundrox: mostly it's learning what items you want and what fights you can take
jamiejamemes: Knowing what the NPCs do is a huge learning curve
sokolov23: yea, it takes awhile before you have a good feel for the power level of your builds vs the monsters
bondrood: unless you know specific drops from encounters you should look to ensure XP gain
sokolov23: typically you are either fighting the strongest you can beat for sure, or you are hunting for a specific item
Paranundrox: the other thing for pyg is you need to get your econ footing under you, and then spend later
Fanklok: Bigger curve is knowing what rewards they give, sometimes the easier fight can give a skill that's better for your build
jamiejamemes: uhh
sokolov23: some server lag
jamiejamemes: Holy blue gumballs
HungryTanuki: Big dawg !
bondrood: yeah and lifesteal as well with crow's nest
teejayrivers: double barrel + crow's nest is tough to beat this early
Mr_Horrible: *looking at a gun* "Wow that's so much damage..."
bondrood: it just got nerfed but crow's nest is a house
Paranundrox: I would advise not buying gumballs until we have a full board
sokolov23: @Paranundrox California real estate: "This Crow's Nest is a well appointed home with a modern aesthetic..."
sokolov23: oops, sorry meant to reply to bondrood
bondrood: @sokolov23 lmao
bondrood: small item that does a thing
bondrood: its a random drop
Paranundrox: Piggles are small 3s cooldown items that buff damage/shields/crits
NonMint: Isn't more weapons really good with weigghts?
sokolov23: Properties are almost all Large, yea
Paranundrox: there are like 4 medium properties
Paranundrox: snow globe, balcony, atm and one other I always forget
Didero: How many times can you lose a fight before it's game over?
TXC2:
all properties are large? typical bougie game, where's the small, affordable housing?
NonMint: There is the little crown thing on the left @Didero I think.
Fanklok: You have 20 hp and lose hp equal to the day
sokolov23: @TXC2 just buy Fixer Upper
Paranundrox: @Didero you lose prestige from 20 based on the day of the fight, but you have loss protection when you first hit 0
damogen: hatchet is free value for dog
TXC2:
sokolov23
Didero: Thanks Chat
Fanklok: I think your dog is big enough now to fight the scary guys
bondrood: woah 10
fiftymcnasty: in play
bondrood: Id imagine you need it in play
Paranundrox: in play for the health
teejayrivers: The pawn shop has to be in play to give +max HP
bondrood: no idea
TXC2:
thrift: the only lesson my parents where able to teach me
damogen: you only play it with max health weapons
Paranundrox: the per day/hour are the ones that work from inventory
Tommadness: Things that affect stats/battle have to be in play. Things that trigger when selling, per day/hour can be in stash
bondrood: hammer is based on hp right
Paranundrox: yes
bondrood: oh rip
Paranundrox: 10/15/20% iirc
A_Dub888: each day we die a little more
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bondrood: NO ROMAN
teejayrivers: silver piggy bank is good because every 2 gold you spend on it will give 3 gold back unless you run out of space for the coins
vinopinguino: What the dooog
jamiejamemes: Curio pog
ACheeseSandwhich: yooo bazaar time
Didero: What does it mean with 'at the start of each hour'? What's an hour?
bondrood: jonk isnt bad either
TXC2: can we haste the dog?
damogen: yes gumballs are good now
Paranundrox: @Didero each node
A_Dub888: @bondrood so that’s why Roman became the Tribal Chief
Fanklok: @didero on the left you can see a clock, every encounter is an hour
bondrood: @A_Dub888 what happens in the bazaar stays in the bazaar
Didero: @Fanklok Ah, thanks
damogen: at level 7 you can upgrade dog to gold
Paranundrox: really good with piggy bank
kingburger5yeet: the hellis this
jamiejamemes: Yeah seaweed is nutty
Didero: @kingburger5yeet It all seems perfectly self-expanatory to me (by which I mean I'm also confused)
TXC2: kingburger5yeet this is the Bazaar, an autobattler card game
kingburger5yeet: ewwwww
kingburger5yeet: i dont like autobattlers
Tommadness: @kingburger5yeet ok
salamisuperstar: But look how big that dog is
0x6772: We're here for you, Wheels!
jamiejamemes: I HATE watching twitch
A_Dub888: @salamisuperstar big enough to main event Wrestlemania?
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tehfewl: imagine walking into a McDonalds and saying "Ew, I hate McDonalds"
salamisuperstar: @A_Dub888 At least Monster Jam
0x6772: @jamiejamemes "I just want to be ANGRY!" ;^>
Frizzlenill: just arrived, is Bazaar pve or pvp?
Fanklok: Chill Chuck
bondrood: PVP
bondrood: with some pve
h3rsh3yb4r: @Frizzlenill yes
jamiejamemes: Oinkment lmao
Genie_M: Asynchronous pvp
damogen: buy sell any cheap small item
Frizzlenill: gotcha
h3rsh3yb4r: it's very similar to super auto pets
h3rsh3yb4r: in it's pvp model, at least
Genie_M: Or backpack heroes
teejayrivers: uh oh, rail gun
bondrood: nice!
TXC2: BIG CRITTIES!
tehfewl: the Dog
jamiejamemes: rip in piss rail gun build
jamiejamemes: holy blue gumballs
Paranundrox: medium item shops are also really good because we can find Dog and similar good items there, and theres a couple of medium items that when sold give you more sellables
Paranundrox: Safe, Briefcase, Cargo Shorts
teejayrivers: D'like dags?
MichaelSnowbird: That was British?
Mr_Horrible: a dog with no crits is like toast with no beans
TXC2: that painting of the guy pointing to his hand, demanding a crit
jamiejamemes: Heal dog goes crazy
teejayrivers: I thought all dogs were healing dogs
NonMint: You have so much money.
tehfewl: gotta train em to be heal dogs
Paranundrox: the scaling enchantment change is so good
Mr_Horrible: sir the dog has lifesteal I repeat
sokolov23: We are changing Obsidian to be Shielded/Restorative but for Damage
jamiejamemes: “We’re Costco guys, of course we aren’t playable yet”
teejayrivers: you procced the revive I think
BusTed:
Its_VeeBot: good pubby
TXC2: nah nah nah nah nah nah CRIT DOG!
0x6772: Adopting a puppy, naming it Crit.
HungryTanuki:
Fanklok: @sokolov23 hey does hasting a 1 second item bring it down to .5 seconds or is it hard capped at 1?
Paranundrox: Balcony doubles the value of Pawn Shop (it interacts a little weirdly with when you get the health though)
jamiejamemes: Wait what does Chapeau do now?
Paranundrox: Phonograph is great
Sovac256: You can just reroll a bunch of times hoping for the dog with the 120 gold
damogen: PHONOGRAPH
sokolov23: Haste makes it charge faster, but doesn't actually affect the CD
damogen: the dog
CuteTeaGoat:
cd reduction 
Paranundrox: at diamond it gives 50% cooldown reduction
XyZiron: phonograph over dagger and 1 other small item
Paranundrox: which is basically double damage
TXC2: "listen to this Phonograph"
Paranundrox: weights isn't really doing much for us
sokolov23: @TXC2 someone made the pic with that
Paranundrox: we want a Belt and Lion Cane
Fanklok: @sokolov23 ok so haste still affects it, that was my question.
TXC2:
sokolov23 of course they did
teejayrivers: @jamiejamemes It's kind of like ganjo but buffs the whole board and gets multicast for each adjacent tool, weapon, property, or apparel
CuteTeaGoat: is a dog property
sokolov23: @Fanklok yes
Fanklok: Neat ty
jamiejamemes: @teejayrivers dang, thanks
teejayrivers: It will, the tooltip just doesn't show it
sokolov23: Because bugged/unsupported
Paranundrox: it will work, it just doesn't check your board on the preview
damogen: basically your whole board sucks, except dog, and partly pawn shop. So you should actively look for better. Anything that speed up dog is a must buy
teejayrivers: Real estate mogul w/ pet dog build
Paranundrox: also I love the Heal/Regen and Defense shops because you can find enchanted items there
damogen: battery would have been great to play
jamiejamemes: Believe in Pyg
Paranundrox: the only thing on our board we care about is Dog and to some extent Pawn Shop
teejayrivers:
bronze victory 
Paranundrox: the rest are all replaceable
TXC2: at the Harvard baaaaar
A_Dub888: what BAR?
CuteTeaGoat: anything that makes dog attack faster would be great I think
damogen: pepper spray is good
Paranundrox: mostly we want medium items (or some larges)
damogen: play pepper spray
sokolov23: So rich
Its_VeeBot: increase dog
Frizzlenill: is there a keybind to sell stuff? The dragging seems fiddly
MrPipboy3000: You can't feed a dog chocolate!
fiftymcnasty: void golem is a coin flip
jamiejamemes: Void Golem is super difficult to beat
Paranundrox: Void Golem destroys a randomitem at the start of the fight
Paranundrox: so you can just die
BusTed:
Paranundrox: Property Baron has hands
Fanklok: CHOCOLATE?!?!?!?!
Fanklok: Maybe
Fanklok: Void Golem is nasty
teejayrivers: Diamond Dogs
BusTed: don't mix chocolate and dog
A_Dub888: @mrpipboy3000 alt universe, we’re fine
zelukester: he got you with those pet fees
TXC2: el doggo
tehfewl: selling all this chocolate cuz he knows the dog can't eat it
itsr67: LOOOOOL
Paranundrox: the pinata sell noise is the funniest thing
TXC2: there are chocolates for dogs chat
jamiejamemes: LMAO the piñata makes me laugh every time
Didero: Sentient pinata?
h3rsh3yb4r: was that a wilhelm scream?
Paranundrox: we want Spices
HungryTanuki:
teejayrivers: kid's birthday parties would feel very different if pinatas could scream
TXC2: h3rsh3yb4r note quite
Fanklok: Good vending mscjinr
damogen: you should almost always reroll shops
PMAvers: Stick to the sweet chunks?
h3rsh3yb4r: looks like the memory leak is still around
A_Dub888:
@txc2 noted, “quite” 
Paranundrox: @damogen early on it can be expensive but definitely late
Paranundrox: Gym rules yeah
Mr_Horrible: Adam: "Sure does, brother"
TXC2: good enough!
jamiejamemes: Not a bad run!
Paranundrox: you had the run of it at the end, I think you just went all in too early
h3rsh3yb4r: why is the pig buffer than hell though
Paranundrox: love an early ATM
itsr67: atm poggg
A_Dub888: I thought TTSF was the learning stream…
Paranundrox: Duct Tape is really good with Apropos Chapeau currently
h3rsh3yb4r: metapod battle?
damogen: keep the duct tape if you get it, it's better than it looks
dm818: we back to barrel gaming?
TXC2: THRILL !
HungryTanuki:
The metapods mirror match
h3rsh3yb4r: Sparks are flying in this heated battle!
teejayrivers:
Can a banana duct-taped to a wall defeat an ATM? Apparently not 
jamiejamemes: “This one’s gonna be a match to remember!”
Grimnus: Oo the longbow does kinda carry early
Paranundrox: longbow is strong early yeah
A_Dub888: the fuck’d she call us?!
jamiejamemes: the longbow oooo
RassilonDND: Piggly wiggly?
Testosteros: got that pog in him
Fanklok: You can't be blowing nanas on stream Ben
sokolov23: The level indicator is bugged
0x6772: He's bigger, duh.
jamiejamemes: Visual bug
damogen: he is level 2, you should always level on day 1
RassilonDND: Level is bugged, he's higher level
RassilonDND: Early access for you
h3rsh3yb4r: how did we not level on day 1
spiffinn: kinda feelsbad to fight a higher level player on day 1
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Darkstorm257: @h3rsh3yb4r You need to take two experience events to hit level 2 before the day one fight
XyZiron: you need 2 exp events
Paranundrox: you need 2 bonus exp for a level
teejayrivers: you need to buy xp twice to level day 1
damogen: there should always be two on day 1
teejayrivers: the strange mushroom encounter has an XP option
fiftymcnasty: Cave and Mushroom
damogen: yes
fiftymcnasty: Yeah thats kinda the day 1 meta now
Darkstorm257: Yeah I think level 2 before day one fight is really strong
Paranundrox: it depends on your items, sometimes I take the skill fro mushroom
ipoddodd: The first 4 levels are wildly important because of the extra space on board
TXC2: feels like that needs to be changed then
Paranundrox: just because right/left handed are also really strong
h3rsh3yb4r: does that property upgrade in our bag too, chat?
RitualGlitchZ: I always take the skill day one personally
Paranundrox: correct
Paranundrox: fixer upper is a nice econ item
teejayrivers: yep, it'll upgrade wherever it is
jamiejamemes: Boarrior used to be crazy strong and also give poor rewards
Paranundrox: yes, but you need to see 2 exp events, and that doesn't happen all the time
0x6772: alt-F4
sokolov23: you can't concede during a fight
RitualGlitchZ: sure, but you'll get that skill when you level anyway
sokolov23: but you can now
damogen: @Paranundrox it should be guaranteed
RitualGlitchZ: The 2 exp events are garunteed day 1
damogen: just remember that you only get 1 shop and hsould try to fill 6 spaces
spiffinn: imo this kind of thing kind of unnecessarily punishes new players. if there's just a meta option that isn't obvious
sokolov23: Why never visit Finn, poor guy is just trying to run a business
RitualGlitchZ: Leveling day one is only good if you have enough stuff, other than that it's only like 60 hp or something
fiftymcnasty: mushroom is just xp
teejayrivers: mushroom only gives xp. Cave gives 2 gold + aa xp
teejayrivers: *1 xp
XyZiron: yeah, like damogen said earlier, at the shop you want to buy 6 slots worth of items
fiftymcnasty: got one from the monster fight
teejayrivers: one skill dropped from a monster fight
hyalopterous: got a skill from the monster
damogen: he got a skill from the fight
Grimnus: Theyre cooked
h3rsh3yb4r: they're lvel 2, 6 items
A_Dub888: did I just hear a robit?
TXC2: A_Dub888 yeah, we played as one in the first hour
A_Dub888:
hyalopterous: cloak is really good
sokolov23: that 4% crit
Fanklok: The voice talent in this game is phenomenal
A_Dub888: @fanklok you’re phenomenal
damogen: pepper spray is a good item
sokolov23: Freeze build?!
TXC2:
in this economy, a good number of vehicals are people's propriety
h3rsh3yb4r: pygsicle
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Paranundrox: large ice club
XyZiron: there is a club
Fanklok: You can do anything with hard work and perseverance
A_Dub888: is showing your salvo allowed by TOS?
damogen: ice club, but you shouldn't build it before you get ice club
sokolov23: Double Whammy pretty cracked if you get Globe/Pawn Shop early
teejayrivers:
There's a large pyg weapon with a 12 sec cooldown that charges 6 sec whenever you freeze. Otherwise the payoff for freeze is that you freeze their items
jamiejamemes: Boomerang seems sick long term
hyalopterous: boomerang is decent econ
fiftymcnasty: medium items is a popular pyg build with Crook
tehfewl: ice cream truck seems pretty good with the cave
sokolov23: Freeze priorities items with a CD
as_ever_ellesandra: How are we liking the caves bazaar man
Jundinator: Hai Wheeler
Jundinator: What is this card game
A_Dub888: @sokolov23 the last time I tried that I got kicked out of the Amoeba Records
as_ever_ellesandra: is barrel still busted
TXC2: Jundinator the Bazaar, a card based sutobattler
TXC2: as_ever_ellesandra been nerfed aparatnly
hyalopterous: nah, they outscale you
XyZiron: one thing that is pretty subtle, is the gold fights (the difficult ones) are worth more exp than the easier fights, so strong players get more exp and get stronger
as_ever_ellesandra: @TXC2 yeah I know it got nerfed I was just curious if barrel still felt cracked
Jundinator: Nice
Jundinator: Did everyone enjoy prerelease weekend
A_Dub888: @jundinator I ran Rakdos beep beep with the rabble master and went 2-1
Durzo_Blint_: is Wheeler new to this game?
spiffinn: healing equal to shield could be good
TXC2: Durzo_Blint_ yes, this is his 2nd stream
Durzo_Blint_: shield potion could be good from this
HungryTanuki: @Jundinator Went Boros vehicles and had a lot of fun !
Jundinator: @a_dub888 I went esper Beep beep and went 3-2, finished in 6th. Opened a Chrome Mox too
Paranundrox: I think the biggest thing is to be looking at the synergies and builds of your human opponents, and then trying to build the same thing yourself
Paranundrox: and learning what works and doesnt
A_Dub888: @jundinator nice!
Fanklok: Apropos Chapeu gets crit chance, does that actually do anything?
Paranundrox: I love the gym
spiffinn: could let the gym charge in the inventory for a bit
fiftymcnasty: You can also use the reward card to value the gym up even faste
h3rsh3yb4r: keep the freeze items in the bag in case we find the ice club?
Durzo_Blint_: that igloo needs hella cooldown reduction
Fanklok: Atlatl is my favorite Pyg weapon
tehfewl: i hear if you keep 7 with bazaar, you just win, can you confirm?
Dr_fragenstien: freeze also seems better against opponents with fewer items. Might have just been a bad matchup
Paranundrox: buy and sell the smalls to charge gym
Paranundrox: you're basically paying 2 gold for max hp (and more value on the gym to buff)
Talvi7: when is bazaar going free to play? seems like a fun game
XyZiron: just leave spot empty for skill?
Genie_M: This turns off heavy weapons bonus
fiftymcnasty: fire guy is hard if you have no heal/sheild
XyZiron: it did, you lost damage when you put in dagger, which increased the cooldown of atlatly
NonMint: UX needs to be better about showing how things interact.
Paranundrox: ooh Bootstraps
Paranundrox: I love Bootstraps - especially enchanted
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TXC2: this game had a tutorial right?
Paranundrox: yes it works from stash
ipoddodd: Yes!
XyZiron: yes, but it only upgrades bronze items since it is only silver
Dr_fragenstien: in my experience with Backpack Battles, the best way to learn is to get dumpstered by people and going "oooh, you can do THAT?". Is there an option to stop and review the battle when it's over?
ipoddodd: Unless an item refers to combat stats or references combat in some way, it works in your stash
fiftymcnasty: all mediums is a popular build
h3rsh3yb4r: i would buy and sell, we have the 4 items skill
Paranundrox: 5 medium weapons is a good build
ipoddodd: It was not, I agree. It's not the most intuitive or user friendly interface
Genie_M: 5 items is bad
as_ever_ellesandra: @TXC2 it existed but it did not actually do a lot of teaching
TXC2: as_ever_ellesandra ah poo
Genie_M: You have the heavy weapons skill
spiffinn: because of the 4 itmes skill
Dr_fragenstien: ok, one thing I dont like is that it just pushes you out when the match is over, so you don't have a chance to figure out what your opponent was doing that made you lose
Paranundrox: @Genie_M Crook is giving more
as_ever_ellesandra: It said "here are the icons and what a day is" not "here is how you actually progress and learn"
h3rsh3yb4r: @Dr_fragenstien the magnifying glass button next to continue is a fight recap
Paranundrox: you can drop your worst weapon for now
as_ever_ellesandra: it expects you to extrapolate synergy with no actual set up to do so without a very specific brand of tism
Dr_fragenstien: @h3rsh3yb4r aah, ok that's good
as_ever_ellesandra: that tree seems cool
as_ever_ellesandra: I have no clue whats happening
Paranundrox: a little late to scale, but I love tree
Mr_Horrible: "post money tree, NOW"
triplehare: Feels like there needs to be a mode for people who don't know what the word "meta" is. Maybe that's just a symptom of a small player pool though?
Paranundrox: tree also takes poison and burn encahntments super well now
XyZiron: If you feel like micromanaging, one way to scale is to use the card to power up gym during non-fight floors, then taking it out during fights
niccus: the post-combat review probably can help, see if items are pulling as much weight as expected
Paranundrox: and what to change it for
Mr_Horrible: it can tell you something is not going to expectation, but that's it
Mr_Horrible: and that's only if you *have* the expectation
triplehare: Always frustrating when a game seems to expect you to just lose over and over until you somehow learn how not to lose
Mr_Horrible: games like this also seem to struggle with how to tutorialize, in general
XyZiron: drum is awesome
TXC2:
isn't "Jabalian" from star trek?
h3rsh3yb4r: should we be moving gym next to membership card during non fights? did i read that right?
Dr_fragenstien: wtf was that
XyZiron: get your atlatlt to 160 damage to it has a 1 second cooldown
as_ever_ellesandra: there was a guy that had 800 power so it crit I guess?
XyZiron: so*
h3rsh3yb4r: find better random encounters ig
Paranundrox: scale Gym so when it procs it gets Atlatl to that damage
Genie_M: Make number big, then win
as_ever_ellesandra: how does wheeler do that and how does the game incentivize learning that this is something that should and could be done
Paranundrox: part of the issue is we only have 5 income, so buy/sell is harder to do
Paranundrox: and losing ai fights means less income and exp. you can kinda enter a death spiral if you stumble
spiffinn: @h3rsh3yb4r this not a problem unique to this game but i'm realizing that i think i just don't get as much out of deckbuilders that are so reliant on rng. when putting together a particular build is completely chance
Dr_fragenstien: yeah, the death spiral seems brutal
ipoddodd: This game can spiral out of control quickly
Paranundrox: Boots need to be gold to upgrade your silvers
ipoddodd: Silver boots will upgrade bronze to silver, you need gold boots to upgrade things to gold
RitualGlitchZ: wow, that seems terrible
RitualGlitchZ: Never seen that item before
Paranundrox: the good thing for Boots is when enchanted, they pass on the enchantment
XyZiron: yeah, that is waht I was saying earlier, you are so punished for not fighting and winning the right AI opponenes, since you get more gold, and more exp and better loot (on average). So weak builds get weaker and strong builds get stronger.
Mr_Horrible: they seem like a shortcut to upgrading investment, yeah. "Upgrade just these and then they'll passively upgrade the rest of your tableau"
Paranundrox: so you can use your level up enchant at 10 to enchant your whole board
XyZiron: right
XyZiron: like literally right ones
Dr_fragenstien: that's a steep learning curve
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XyZiron: yep
as_ever_ellesandra: wow that doesn't feel good
XyZiron: a big issue with this game is it is very snowbally
Mr_Horrible: real
Genie_M: It feels like that there is no wiggle room in builds - if you have it, you're fine, if you don't, you just lose, period.
TXC2: there's no comeback mechanic ?
spiffinn: this seems like a design flaw that needs attention. better beginning play experience and catchup mechanics
Dr_fragenstien: teamfight tactics has so much complexity DX
satyropodobny: Just had to watch 40+ hours of Northerlion streams beforehand
h3rsh3yb4r: this seems easier to learn (for me personally) than TFT because it's not timed
apologiestomyeditor: would you say that you understand and have a simple option of equipment as a reliable option?
h3rsh3yb4r: it lets me actually READ the shit
as_ever_ellesandra: TFT gives you a reasonable door to actually learn
ipoddodd: @TXC2 Not unless you know what you're doing, and can sac strategically
as_ever_ellesandra: this has No Door
adept_nekomancer: TFT's set bonuses do make it easier to learn the game, agreed
Paranundrox: they have added the item tags in the new patch, which kinda suggests more synergy, but it's not quite the same
TXC2: ipoddodd so the same problem
ipoddodd: @TXC2 Yeah more or less
Fanklok: Smh my head typical millennial wants everything spelled out
Paranundrox: Curio is a really cool shop but you need to know what items you're looking for from it
XyZiron: the 100% lack of catchup mechanics is the issue with the game, like literally the only one is when you die you get a choice of 1 of 3 events, and the enchant event is sooo much better than the others 90% of the time, but it isn't explained anywhere and is super RNG still
spiffinn: like not to be rude but i hope the dev is still around and listening to this discussion because from watching these streams i know for sure i'm not buying this game until these issues are fixed
Dr_fragenstien: true, it does at least have that to help beginners through not knowing what to do. Hearthstone's is based on hearthstone, so if you know the base game you know it. And Backpack Battles is simple enough and starts you out small, and the puzzle aspect encourages you to take your time to learn what your items do
Paranundrox: @spiffinn I believe it will be free to play on release from beta
as_ever_ellesandra: @Paranundrox feels like the story of the entire game "you need to know to know"
Paranundrox: yup
Dr_fragenstien: i'm not sure what this game is doing to on-ramp players from simple strategies to complex ones
spiffinn: okay, won't waste my time on it then
triplehare: I really like the overall vibes of this, but it does feel like I'd be signing up for a *lot* of losing before I catch up to the skill of the people who have been playing since launch
spiffinn: like if i was wheeler i'd be getting actively frustrated
Paranundrox: @Dr_fragenstien mostly seeing what you lose to, I think
daedela: onboarding
TXC2: smooth out the learning curve
TXC2: but still have a curve
spiffinn: even explaining more what the keywords exactly do
RassilonDND: Agreed. This is a common problem with auto battlers
FurthestChunk: the current onboarding process is, uh, northernlion videos as far as i can tell
Frizzlenill: even just a clickable "?" on each item that pops up 'recommended synergies'
TXC2: not more info, BETTER info
spiffinn: is there a "civilopedia" or similar?
spiffinn: in game?
Genie_M: Or give wiggle room so not only very specific builds are capable of winning
TXC2: spiffinn there's a fandom wikia, it's not good imo
RitualGlitchZ: @FurthestChunk More like Kripp's, NL is for entertainment
Paranundrox: @Genie_M they've been trying to adjust that in the various patches, you can see them tweaking the balance on a lot of items
RitualGlitchZ: Kripp is in it for the game
adept_nekomancer: I feel like the game kind of tries, like by having fire or poison being themes, but there doesn't seem to be a way to know what the payoffs are except playing a bunch and losing to people who know them.
as_ever_ellesandra: ah so this is the tarkov of autobattlers
Fanklok: Even just a "what the fuck piggle is" on item tooltips would be nice
spiffinn: ^
as_ever_ellesandra: game seems cool but if its not gonna be learnable I don't feel like it wants me to actually play the game
jamiejamemes: The Minecraft/Monster Hunter school of “get someone else to tell you” learning
Dr_fragenstien: it's not an easy solution either, you want the game to be complex so there's plenty to master, you dont' want players settling into a stale meta. It's why a lot of successful games have simple characters or strategies and the more complex ones only provide a small advantage
RassilonDND: I mean even if it handheld you through some basic strategies with prebuilt decks would be nice
triplehare: Maybe even a popup that precalculates if you're likely to beat a given NPC? Like if losing to a single NPC is death, it should be a lot easier to know if you're tough enough
apologiestomyeditor: maybe a clearer aret style. slay the spire comes to mind. Display items in action
Paranundrox: Blade is really good
Paranundrox: basically buy/sell any bronze weapon, and charge up your econ when it's low with non-shop encounters
Paranundrox: oar is probably better than atlatl right now
ipoddodd: I like dooley because the first item you pick (the core) gives you a strong synergy space to build from
Dr_fragenstien: it is kinda wild how your first opponent can have a completely busted stratagy while you're rubbing two sticks together
Paranundrox: Longbow probably
ipoddodd: bow would be my choice
Paranundrox: Atlatl is +20 damage, Longbow is +30 (with multicast)
Paranundrox: we just need to scale Regal Blade
satyropodobny: she paints all her ships red you see
Myslizard: @satyropodobny and does not use paint
Paranundrox: Crook is a weapon and a tool, and its the one that buffs mediums based on mediums
ratfreq: crook build sans crook
as_ever_ellesandra: straight up crookin it
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as_ever_ellesandra: and by it I mean... oh not my crook
Paranundrox: it's when someone freezes you, they get burnt
Dr_fragenstien: wait, that's not apply freeze? Makes me wonder if theres ways to freeze your own items...
Paranundrox: there are a couple of items that do
TXC2: that's some poor English
Paranundrox: Gym is great to hold when you have Blade
Myslizard: @Dr_fragenstien There is few items that freezes items from both players, also some skills too
Paranundrox: it just gets you a bank and raises your max health as you buy weapons to charge blade
spiffinn: I would hope that freeze times give the state "Frozen" to items, not "freeze" to them
as_ever_ellesandra: Jim Nintendo's Pyg
TXC2: spiffinn right, that skill should say "when your items become frozen, burn N"
Paranundrox: yup
Paranundrox: bank is good with rewards card
Paranundrox: since you can charge it super fast
Mangledpixel: smol weps
Paranundrox: don't forget to sell the weapons
Paranundrox: well you can sell all but one
Paranundrox: you have to close to menu and reopen, this happens iwth items sometimes
ipoddodd: get got I suppose
11Dot: Common bug, go to main menu and back in to reset
as_ever_ellesandra:
remember game's in beta
Paranundrox: Cargo Shorts at silver is completely free (and nets you 2 free gumballs)
Paranundrox: yes
RassilonDND: Does anyone else feel like spare change should somehow combo with the cash register?
Paranundrox: @RassilonDND I mean cash register generates spare change
apologiestomyeditor: is this game more complex than story book brawl?
Paranundrox: yes
fiftymcnasty: dog probalby better than oars
Paranundrox: a ton more items than SBB and way more interactions between items
apologiestomyeditor: @Paranundrox cool..... why? what does it gain?
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TXC2: I feel like we're seeing a lot more skins then last week
ratfreq: im several hours in. But am enjoying it more than SBB
Paranundrox:
@apologiestomyeditor I mean you can play it currently, for one 
apologiestomyeditor: no shade btw
Myslizard: @apologiestomyeditor SBB didn't have as strong meta builds as this has
as_ever_ellesandra: its more complex, less fun, but by a less shitty group (assuming they don't try to put it on the block chain again)
Paranundrox: SBB basically had one build for each class of cards
Paranundrox: this has way more mixing and matching of items
apologiestomyeditor: @Paranundrox i miss it for sure
RassilonDND: I'm curious to see if wheeler will revist this when it comes out of early access. It's always interesting to see how much has changed.
General_Pants: your honor thats cap
Cptasparagus: this game hasn't tried to sell itself to crypto yet!
TXC2: crypto's dead
Paranundrox: far left fight can drop Crook
h3rsh3yb4r: @TXC2 if only
Cptasparagus: Also Wheeler, when you chirped about Limited Resources on FNPF I literally jumped out of my chair. It was so good.
RassilonDND: @cptasparagus don't give them ideas
apologiestomyeditor: @Paranundrox does this for example have more destinct items/characters than other games of this type
as_ever_ellesandra: I wouldn't be surprised if we don't play this game again
Diabore: when it comes out of early access? like 3 years from now?
triplehare: Does anyone else find it weird how much this looks like hearthstone's visual style, or is this a "guy who's only seen boss baby" take?
as_ever_ellesandra: @triplehare that feels a bit boss baby
TXC2: I feel like this game has legs, they just little baby legs that can't hold it's weight at the moment
niccus: the game was lead-designed by an ex-hearthstone pro, and at first it was modeled more like hs:battlegrounds
Paranundrox: you can replace a weapon with Belt tbh
Myslizard: @apologiestomyeditor When this comes out of Beta, it should have 6 characters, all with own pool of items, mixed with the items recieved from the AI opponets
Paranundrox: Regal Blade and Bow are like the only things that matter right now
HungryTanuki: @triplehare One of the main dev of the Bazaar is a former HS pro iirmc
RassilonDND: I mean it's not surprising, HS was popular under that marvel snap dev
TXC2: "the guy who got banned from magic" "do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?"
RassilonDND: And it's ui been used for quite a few games
Paranundrox: huge power spike
apologiestomyeditor: @Myslizard thx
triplehare: I mean with the like, chunky cartoony metal edges and way things flip around like it's a clockwork table
Cptasparagus: being Alex Bertoncini's friend is about as big of a red flag as there is
TXC2: we're back like if Lazarus was in backstreet boys !
Mr_Horrible: it's a broadly appealing aesthetic and style of UX, it makes sense people would work from it as a template for their own games in similar genres
TXC2:
doctortnt30xx: part of me is curious what is this game
Paranundrox: I feel like Bazaarcon drops small items super frequently, but it might just be an item pool size thing
Paranundrox: now that we have Crook it's pretty good
Diabore: #much damage
RassilonDND: On the spectrum of people being banned from magic, are we talking cheaters like deck manipulators, the guy who took pictures of butt cracks, or the guy who started yelling obscenities
TXC2: doctortnt30xx this is the Bazaar, a card base autobattler, it's in beta though
Paranundrox: docks gives a weapon to sell
triplehare:
Also the way the main UI is shaped to fit on an iPad
Myslizard: @TXC2 Is this still the closed beta or did it already go open beta??
Paranundrox: but yeah now our blade is like 700 and it was like 300 last fight
TXC2: Myslizard closed I think
as_ever_ellesandra: @Myslizard closed beta that you can buy into for $33 - it gets you a code for you and for a friend
Diabore:
oinkment
Myslizard: @as_ever_ellesandra That is why i asked, i have been considering this game, but don't want to pay
as_ever_ellesandra: I figured but might as well provide all the info
Myslizard:
@as_ever_ellesandra thank you for that info
Paranundrox: at this point you should be able to take most of the ai fights (except maybe void golemn)
Officinalis: It appears we have turned a small corner.
triplehare: As long as when it goes public I'm paired with other news and not just against people who have built a year of skill in the beta, I will probably check it out.
rosesmcgee: Weapons suck so bad they force me into early retirement
Myslizard: @triplehare Yeah, you start with the standard mode, before going to Ranked mode anyways
as_ever_ellesandra: don't get barrels
as_ever_ellesandra: or whatever the fear is
Paranundrox: yeah all our damage is within 8s for the first volley
adept_nekomancer: If we could get shield on our sword it would be amazing.
triplehare: Sure but wheeler is playing standard, not ranked, and getting paired with sick as hell builds
Myslizard: @triplehare Some people come from the ranked with the Meta builds to Standard, as you need to get the tickets to play Ranked
TXC2: "I mean (hacks up an entire lung)"
itsr67:
as_ever_ellesandra: half a second
as_ever_ellesandra: we take those
Diabore: scary scary
Paranundrox: this is where Gym is great to scale health while scaling blade
itsr67: woof
Paranundrox: you get a little money back when selling items
FurthestChunk: +1 value on weapons
Myslizard:
Added value to all items 
itsr67: "weapons have +1 value"
Paranundrox: it's.. not great
FurthestChunk: i mean it does help with the whole buy/sell plan
FurthestChunk: i guess
FurthestChunk: in a pinch
TXC2:
I feel like golden is the worst enchant
Paranundrox: depends
adept_nekomancer: That enchantment doesn't seem to... do much.
Paranundrox: on some of the properties it's the best
Paranundrox: the ones that care about value that it doubles the value of, golden is among the best imo
Myslizard:
@TXC2 Economic reasons
Paranundrox: but for weapons compared to the alternatives, it's not ideal
triplehare: That's another point of info. The game should show you the potential enchantment outcomes so you can make an informed decision
TXC2: wow 10 skills
sokolov23: @triplehare yes, we are working on it
as_ever_ellesandra: watching this has made me real tempted to just play other ones than try this one
Myslizard: @triplehare there is a wiki page, which has all out comes with all items and enchantments listed
ipoddodd: 1 thought, no more
Paranundrox: there's a lot of onboarding you need to know the items and build options so you can make informed decisions
RassilonDND: It's clear to me why it's early access. There's a lot of missing information
Paranundrox: because currently you make decisions without information, and then you also don't necessarily get clear feedback on the results until much later
ClickWizard: Each patch has been feeling drastically different, it's still getting its bearings
triplehare: Maybe I'm a gaming boomer but I shouldnt need to do external reading outside the game unless I have competitive ambitions
TXC2: ^
as_ever_ellesandra: @Myslizard external resources should not be a requirement for base level entry to the game mechanics
RassilonDND: I mean I like doing external reading though. Dark souls comes to mind
as_ever_ellesandra: that's not a boomer sentiment, thats a wanting your time respected sentiment
reindeering: the base game is good but it's very blind in your choices. when i play i have to check the wiki often becasue it's hard to remember what each encouter does
TXC2: thanks for streaming Wheeler
Myslizard: @as_ever_ellesandra i know, also some shops like that are just gambling to get random enchantment
TXC2: !patreon
triplehare: This looks good though. Or looks like it *could* be really good
apologiestomyeditor: good luck to the devs
TXC2: !store
Paranundrox: Enchantments are especially rough since you need to look up the encyclopedia to know how all the enchantments interact with all your items
onmartn: thank!
as_ever_ellesandra: @RassilonDND yes but you don't need those external tools to reasonably grasp and see the impact of how you play darksouls
TXC2: !next
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TXC2: !events
Cptasparagus: Ieej
Mr_Horrible: this is the new one
jamiejamemes: M’Cross
as_ever_ellesandra: rift is the New One I think
accountmadeforants: They haven't played it yet, it came out this week
RassilonDND: @as_ever_ellesandra I'd argue there's a lot of hidden mechanics though. Like rolling break points and poise
Mr_Horrible: it's v goog
Cptasparagus: they stopped in the middle i think
as_ever_ellesandra: @RassilonDND there are but there is a major differences
onmartn: ooooo
HungryTanuki: Oooh !
accountmadeforants: Ooh, rad!
TXC2: ooooh
as_ever_ellesandra: both in how they impact the play experience and how they respect the player's time
Mr_Horrible: yeah that sounds like a Wheeler Card
Mr_Horrible: looking forward to the silliness
accountmadeforants:
Colour inkjet printer to proxy them real fast 
accountmadeforants: Colour *laser, rather
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TXC2: anyone else just logged out from twitch?
accountmadeforants: Nope
HungryTanuki: Still here !
TXC2:
weird, stream died for me and I'm logged out?
TXC2: Goodnight everybody
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