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Juliamon:
Anubis169: oooOOOooo
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Anubis169: never had the nerve to repair a touch device before
Juliamon: it's not the touch part being repaired
Juliamon: it's the USB
Juliamon: which was designed incredibly badly
Juliamon: oh shit, throwback
Juliamon: Cliiiimb aboard the Desert Bus!
baltimore_667083:
ghyllnox: Suddenly getting the feeling I need to start thinking about Christmas gifts
LordZarano:
Andy 
baltimore_667083:
adamdaw: Awwww yes time for a lil TT
HbombAndFriends: Music is fire tonight!
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Juliamon:
TY for letting it finish
TheAinMAP: Hello.
Anubis169: Good evening!
HbombAndFriends: But no 3s.
Anubis169: zero-indexing is best indexing
Anubis169: !patreon
bytecaster: no rss feed yet
Anubis169: !youtube
Anubis169: !store
Anubis169: !tonight
QuixoticScrivener: Are two point drops still enabled? Twitch is telling me yes.
BraveOthello: Hmm, no lrrbot on that one
Juliamon: what did you expect !tonight would do
LoadingReadyRun: @QuixoticScrivener I don't think so?
LordZarano: A lot of podcast apps can subscribe to youtube channels/playlists, so close enough
Anubis169:
Ian said "Tonight!" so I did the trigger 
Cptasparagus: so its an orphan board?
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CrossXhunteR: i know many an owner of many a broken wacom
BraveOthello: @anubis169 it was a good bit
Anubis169: Ian: Did you have to heatgun that apart or is it a clip-together?
SnackPak_: oooo
BraveOthello: (to be clear I didn't actually expect that to be a command)
QuixoticScrivener: @LoadingReadyRun I think twitch just needed a reload, it updated the stream title as well.
Juliamon: it's amazing how long Wacom got away with overcharging for poorly-designed hardware
LadyAiluros: you need a USB microscope
Juliamon: globb it up
LordZarano: My wacom bamboo tablet is still going strong 12 years later
LordZarano: (bamboo being one of their cheaper models)
Anubis169:
LadyAiluros: I got a soldering microscope for christmas, 20x magnification at 9 inches. I've been doing so much microsoldering 
LadyAiluros: noiiice
wedge_x: sure is a lot of carbon scoring on your wacom
Juliamon: yeah their bargain-level stuff was really the only products worth buying IMO (had a Graphire myself)
BraveOthello: Thoughts and prayers
Anubis169: BraveOthello: Otherwise known as "Plug and pray"
CrossXhunteR: just made a homemade pizza, so now i get to sit down to watch some computer surgery while eating
BraveOthello:
ghyllnox: Feet? For free???
BraveOthello: No free feet pics!
Anubis169: That's a generic port right? It's just the butterfly mounting that's custom?
CaptinOfBeez: a hot air reflow gun would be really helpful here if you can be careful not to melt the case
LoadingReadyRun: @CaptinOfBeez No! TTSF and hot air guns do not have a good history
Anubis169: ^
TheAwkes: Pads and wings? What is this, the personal hygiene section of your local supermarket?!
QuixoticScrivener: thanks for reminding me I'm a disgusting human
CrossXhunteR: but maybe this time. just maybe...
haberley: evenning chat
Anubis169: hot fire reflow gun
CaptinOfBeez: i find it easier because i will inevitably bridge small traces with a soldering iron lol
CrossXhunteR: what's in the ol raktajino mug tonight?
QuixoticScrivener: @haberley Good evening internet person or bot net.
haberley: @QuixoticScrivener person, as far as i'm aware ^^
Anubis169: those mugs are ideal for tinkerers
Anubis169: nice wide base, can't knock it over
QuixoticScrivener: @haberley How confident are you of that? [Slams a Voight-Kampff test on the table.]
haberley: @QuixoticScrivener oh, decreasingly by the day
LordZarano: @Anubis169 Honestly I wonder if that's why they chose them for set dressing Trek
Anubis169: the 5 main USB lines are thin enough that it'll break if you cough on it too hard
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QuixoticScrivener: @haberley Do replicants experience imposter syndrome?
UWDJohn: Power, ground, two data lines D+ and D-, and the rarely used "On the Go" signal
Anubis169: zed_alpha: is that a metric ass or an imperial ass?
CaptinOfBeez: does it look like the pads got ripped up?
BraveOthello: The rarely used *what*?
Anubis169: the one without the teeth
zed_alpha: @Anubis169 i don't know but i count in base 22, so make of that what you will
RandomTrivia:
The bigger of the two small ones 
CaptinOfBeez: does usb mini have OTG?
CrossXhunteR: i don't know the last time ive seen a usb-b mini connector
DoodlestheGreat: Why, we have three PS 3s...
Anubis169: I like Mini over Micro, simple because it doesn't break as often
Juliamon: There didn't seem to be any reason why a product would use one over the other
RatherLargeToad: sadly, the USB Mega never took off
kekuha: how difficult is it to replace the usb cable on an old gaming keyboard? i have an old razer nostromo that needs love
Anubis169: by the way, whomever decided to use MicroUSB in a 6-axis motion controller deserves a slap
LoadingReadyRun: six slaps, one for each axis
LordZarano: @RatherLargeToad USB Type-B 3.0?
Anubis169: hehehe
kekuha: @anubis169 because the cable falls out?
Juliamon: motherboards startle easily
Anubis169: kekuha: because MicroUSB bends back and forth so easy, the cable and the port header breaks
Anubis169: it does the thing where you bend a wire hanger back and forth until it snaps
kekuha: hence why they fall out
CrossXhunteR: the cool q-tips?
kekuha: agreed it was a bad choice @anubis169
LordZarano: Good ol' metal fatigue
Anubis169: funnily enough they don't fall out, mainly due to the two teeth. They just stay in broken.
kekuha: yikes
RandomTrivia: "something squishy to rub against", one of the three fundamental human desires - alongside "chicken tendies" and "satellite cable"
CrossXhunteR: i had a zune when i was much younger, and definitely broke the charging port in that thing one time by not properly unlocking the teeth of the connector when i went to disconnect the charge cable
kekuha: and reciprocated high fives @randomtrivia
Anubis169: 400c?
Juliamon: it's me, I have difficulty being straight
CaptinOfBeez: 750
Anubis169: USB Ports... ASSEMBLE!
Juliamon: even my eyes aren't straight
wedge_x: having spent the last 29 years around digital artists and wacoms, I can confirm that they're generally here for a good time, not a long time
CaptinOfBeez: hold the tip on the pad to heat it and feed solder into the joint so it can flow better
Anubis169: flux please
LordZarano: 500C would be literally red hot, 's about when things start glowing
CaptinOfBeez: most of my tips dont recommend going over 400C
Juliamon: more like a Costco soup container
RandomTrivia:
Paul, that was a very long-winded way of saying "Skill issue"
kekuha: any secret tech for soldering indoors in an apartment?
Juliamon: those things DO NOT peel open
CaptinOfBeez: there are desktop air scrubbers you can use
Challis2070: it doesn't go moldy,but it sounds like it might dry out?
TheAwkes: If it's anything like sour cream, it gets opened, you use half of it, then you don't look at it again until it's months past it's BB in the back of the fridge.
kekuha: air scrubbers?
CaptinOfBeez: yea it sucks in the fumes from the soldering and captures particles in a filter
CaptinOfBeez: if you cant get a fume hood over your station
Anubis169: good angle
Juliamon: TheAwkes glad to know this is a universal truth
Anubis169: uh oh
CaptinOfBeez: good flow though lol
LordZarano: @kekuha Alternatively, near a window, with a fan
CaptinOfBeez: they may be ground
LordZarano: ^
CaptinOfBeez: tiny tip plz
CaptinOfBeez: hakko has the best tips
ghyllnox: Plooze
LadyAiluros: OMG I love my pinecil!
TheAwkes: I've got a Pinecil on the desk in front of me right now.
LordZarano: Test if a plug still fits with the ooze?
CaptinOfBeez: 400 will be more than enough for those small pins
confracto: I'm late, what's happening with this tablet?
Juliamon: MiniUSB port fell out
TheAwkes: The front (USB socket) fell off.
confracto: thanks, I was about to also make a front fell of joke.
LordZarano: "What standard are these things built to?"
confracto: apparently not a good one, as I'm realizing my intuos3 doesn't even have a disconnectable connection here
confracto: "well, cardboard's out"
TheAwkes: I've got a base station iron that can pull 85W, and my pinecil with the right power supply does plenty more than that.
Juliamon: it's a design flaw in the Intuos 4 specifically
QuixoticScrivener: @LordZarano "We put UL on the label, but aren't in the US."
Juliamon: and well-documented
confracto: oh, good to know. I've been using my 3 daily since 2007, and I'm terrified of the day it goes
Anubis169: see: the x86 instructionset
LoadingReadyRun:
@confracto all three? that's a big drawing surface! 
confracto: no, just an intuos 3, but it's an ultrawide one (originally used for a pair of 4:3 monitors), and I have a same generation cintiq as well now, and they use the same pen
MWGNZ: now everything is a 5v rail!
Cptasparagus: is that like when the smoke came from inside the drill?
betweenmyself:
The call is coming from inside the soldering iron! 
LordZarano: If just the data pins are shorted that'll make it charge only
CaptinOfBeez: do you have solder braid to remove the extra?
CaptinOfBeez: small probes
Anubis169: WOW
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CaptinOfBeez: and a microscope
Anubis169: beep
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Arclight_Dynamo: Oh, that's an unpleasant noise Ian is making.
CaptinOfBeez: why do you need wires?
CaptinOfBeez: are the traces from the USB tore off? or are they still intact?
LoadingReadyRun: I believe they came off with the port
MWGNZ: could we go full jank and run long wires to the far end of the trace?
LoadingReadyRun: @MWGNZ we can always go MORE jank but it's hard go to LESS jank
TheMandrew: was Ian a Dapper Dan man?
SnackPak_: classy
Cptasparagus: thats thoughtful. Finding sheet music for random stuff is hard.
betweenmyself:
if someone asked you to write music for ManDom these days, you might think they were talking about something different 
Cptasparagus: hes a good dude, he stopped by the ice cream store that I worked at in high school a few times
Cptasparagus: for the small sum of a few million dollars you can siphon value!
Cptasparagus: safety squints
MWGNZ: ^
toomanybears: hey chat question are they still doing a showing of the friday nights vids ahead of time on twitch and if so when
Juliamon: they haven't done that at all
toomanybears: i thought they did that for the first one
Juliamon: it always premieres on Youtube
Cptasparagus: ^
Juliamon: the only advanced viewing was at MagicCon
toomanybears: ahh
toomanybears: must have been how my wires got crossed off partial info
toomanybears: well hey thanks for sortin me out
betweenmyself: the Solder Whisperer
CaptinOfBeez: thats the lead! great stuff
moist_but_crunchy: so what's embuggering the wacom?
Juliamon: detached USB port
CrossXhunteR: now im just thinking of "the front fell off"
PhorrestGaze: have you tried turning it off and on again?
moist_but_crunchy: did ian steal that mug from voyager?
Juliamon: as everyone has at some point in the stream
Juliamon: they got the mugs a few Desert Buses ago for a Night Watch bit
Juliamon: and it turns out they're good mugs bront
CrossXhunteR: my friend recently got the tiny Trek tea cups, and it tickled me seeing both the raktajino mug and those tea cups in last week's Friday Nights
moist_but_crunchy: Those blues ones must be hard to tip over
Ian Weaver: Can I get off work early this time... Who knows?
Juliamon: they're literally designed for that
CaptinOfBeez: depending on the connected device, usb can have pull up resistors to 5V
sparkywondersnail: They used to make car cups in the blue mug shape, did not work so good in car, works great as a non-spill mug almost anywhere else
CaptinOfBeez: solder stenciling
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sparkywondersnail: How many other people have their noses 2 inches from the screen watching closely, or is it just me
TheAwkes: This makes me wish you had a ribbon cable you could solder facing into the case, then bend back over itself to connect to the USB port.
spawnofhastur: I'd like to try soldering because I'd love to build a tube amp. I'm just worried about it, you know, killing me.
Juliamon: It's less likely to kill you and more likely to just give you mild burns
Juliamon: but mild burns do suck
Cptasparagus:
as long as you dont inhale the solder smoke 
Juliamon: That's not that difficult
betweenmyself: Just Ian asserting dominance over his gloves.
Juliamon: I feel like you would need to deliberately inhale the amount of solder smoke that would cause harm
Juliamon: *immediate harm
Juliamon: (let's be real, everything we inhale is killing us)
MWGNZ: especially oxygen
Juliamon: we're all rusting
Bobtheninjagoldfish: The soudn of Solder is a "Sound of silence " cover waiting to happen
betweenmyself: gotta make sure them lungs build up a lovely patina
DrakoniteDev: oh hai
DrakoniteDev was doing a working and missed everything
DrakoniteDev: smoke from lead-free solder is quite toxic, due to the harsh chemicals in the flux needed for lead-free. smoke from leaded solder is generally just mildly bad, as long as you limit exposure and don't lick your fingers
DrakoniteDev is very late to the discussion
Awaiko: Good afternoon chat, I hope y'all are well today.
DrakoniteDev: ooo, are those fancy probemasters new?
DrakoniteDev: (they look like probemasters, at least)
DrakoniteDev: lead solder is much better
SquareDotCube: it's the leading brand!
wedge_x: I was born in the early 70's, I can hold *so much lead*
DrakoniteDev: the only real issue with leaded solder is environmental contamination from e-waste, but there are claims the harsh chemicals needed for leadfree might cause just as much environmental harm
DrakoniteDev: @wedge_x is that when everyone was provided copious free lead from the automotive industry?
MWGNZ: enhance!
7gorobei: where is the endoscope? i demand worm eye view
DrakoniteDev: what is it we're fixing?
Juliamon: Wacom Intuos 4
DrakoniteDev: ooo
Juliamon: miniUSB port fell out
MWGNZ: if this fails do we try upgrading it to micro usb?
wedge_x: @DrakoniteDev around the peak, yeah
DrakoniteDev: do we know if the cable is power only?
LoadingReadyRun: the cable also sends the tablet data to the computer
DrakoniteDev: ah
DrakoniteDev: is this 5 pin mini usb?
DrakoniteDev: the outside most are +V and GND
DrakoniteDev: some devices use D+/D- to negotiate power draw, but that wacon tablet probably doesn't need to
DoodlestheGreat: Like "Disney's The Story of Menstruation."
ghyllnox: They do have some that they've made unavailable. It's mostly extremely racist
DrakoniteDev: a lot of early disney is... "problematic"
DoodlestheGreat: And the War Years... eek.
ghyllnox: @DoodlestheGreat Turning Red was great!
DrakoniteDev: my wireless wacom intuous 4 has an LED next to the switch. not sure if same model though
Sorator13: tune into the stream, immediately hear "Windows is unhappy with this device!"
Sorator13: seems appropriate
betweenmyself: so much smoke you’d think the latest USB Pontiff has been selected
Strebenherz: LIIIIFE
DrakoniteDev: huzzah \o/
RandomTrivia:
SnackPak_:
RatherLargeToad: either that or self destruct has been activated
sparkywondersnail: If you don't have flames shooting up from the device ... its good.
jessicaengle:
Hello chat cats 
DrakoniteDev: no! you're shorting the battery!!!
Strebenherz:
Giraldi657: It's always good to see you, oh ye of the soothing voice
RandomTrivia: Uh oh
Strebenherz: oh no
Juliamon: It's very bright
Strebenherz: is that a good or bad led
RandomTrivia: BAHAHAHAHA
Strebenherz: that's good at least!
DrakoniteDev:
HorusFive: Trust but verify- as they say
jessicaengle:
RandomTrivia: Some electrons are moving in the right places
BorealMage: Knowing wacom, I wouldn't be surprised with few internal tests
RandomTrivia: Perhaps due to fast-start settings that are often enabled by default?
granite_grizz:
HorusFive: SNES go brrrrrrrrrr
DrakoniteDev:
granite_grizz: Hertz? I didn't even feel anything.
DrakoniteDev: the snes I modded to be mobile probably had more variance than that
SquareDotCube: hence the elevator segments
RandomTrivia: OH NO
ArdCollider: last night I managed to temporarily brick a thing I was working on because the people who wrote the tooling left the "don't open that" Mac xattr on a binary it needed.
ArdCollider: and taking it off while the toolchain was running... resulted in "whew, I'm glad this bootloader has a reset feature."
LordZarano: shutdown -r in a command line will reboot without installing updates
Bobtheninjagoldfish: as someone who helps organize a speedrunning marathon, I can confirm Speedrunners are not worried about it. There is however a speed run That Places a NES on a hotplate and heat it to 50 degrees to run Dragon Warrior III to increase the chance of a glitch so that the hour or more speed run can be done in close to 22 minutes.
MalFnord: That seems like a great way to covert working NESes into ewaste, ngl
MalFnord: *convert
DrakoniteDev: if that battery was completely drained it could take 30-45min to get enough charge
ghyllnox: @Bobtheninjagoldfish Does the hotplate count as a "tool" that would make it a "tool-assisted speedrun"?
omdorastrix: BMS *Might* be in low-power trickle charge mode while it profiles the batter.. could take a few hours per Ah - I run into that on lenovos
Bobtheninjagoldfish: @ghyllnox techinically, no, sadly.
RandomTrivia: Ah.
ghyllnox: @Bobtheninjagoldfish Unfortunate
RandomTrivia:
Reading the manual explains the manual 
DrakoniteDev: super common on devices with style of battery to do a very slow "emergency slow charge" when battery is very low
DrakoniteDev:
LordZarano: Took me a while to find but
Awaiko: Good to hear CheckPoint has gone up, it's my usual Friday lunchtime viewing and I wondered what happened to it!
SquareDotCube: Moxes or Moxen?
Juliamon: Moxen is the traditional plural for Mox
jessicaengle: The most dangerous game.
jessicaengle:
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jessicaengle:
jessicaengle: Thanks for streaming
jessicaengle: !quote
LRRbot: Quote #2895: "The darkest timeline is the one where I'm still in it." —Ian [2016-07-04]
Juliamon: boy... I feel that one
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