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alchemistsavant: Hello friends!
DideRobot: LRR: Time for Tinker Tailor Solder Fry! Tonight Ian is checking out the ESP32Cam. https://twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun (has image) | https://kind.social/@LoadingReadyRun/114673125513146331
RandomTrivia: Hi friends! lrrHEART I don't know what the alphabet soup in the stream title is, but excited to find out what Ian is fiddling with today!
realbadatthis_: I think Cori mentioned somewhere else that it was a wireless camera?
TheAinMAP: lrrDOTS lrrCIRCLE lrrARROW
TheAinMAP: Hello.
DoodlestheGreat: Hi ho, Ian.
ArtOfStuttering: IAN! Hi.
alchemistsavant: I see you've been provided with a liquid diversion. Hopefully it works out well when you escape the moonbase!
ArtOfStuttering: Also hi Paul! :D
Despoiler98: auriiWut auriiWut auriiWut but now I'm worried about it
RandomTrivia: Ooooooh, clever
RandomTrivia: Oh no the button cam
RandomTrivia: The finger
TheDevil_Risen: oo cool
TheDevil_Risen: afternoon Ian
RandomTrivia: So smol
TheDevil_Risen: OBD USB?
ArtOfStuttering: I don't know, Ian, that sounds like a lot of feature creep.
MWGNZ: esp32 is a wifi chip that people realised is powerful enough to work as a general purpose cpu
DoodlestheGreat: Oooooo... That sounds interesting. Question: Would this device be of any use at this year's Desert Bus?
ohnodonovo: In my experience, you'll want some kind of heat sink for the camera - ESPs do not like being cameras and try to catch fire
alchemistsavant: All the power and sheer terror of the internet in the palm of your hand.
DoodlestheGreat: Nothing wrong with that. The tinker-er, the better.
Nigouki: yeah, I think we've come to the point where ALL the power of the internet is very much not good. Be very selective of your internet
mercano82: Digital electronics have evolved so fast that what today is considered a humble microcontroller outclasses desktop machines from not that long ago
MWGNZ: hook it up to water cooling via the paintbrush water Kappa
jvetting83: Probably need to 3d print a new holder.
mercano82: active air cooling by tapping of the airbrush’s compressor.
alchemistsavant: I'm sure nothing would go wrong at all with this setup. :3c
alchemistsavant: that was supposed to be a reply, whoops!
Nigouki: "You want to DIY? WELL DIY THIS!!!"
MWGNZ: hoping the magic smoke stays in
mercano82: you know what would be useful here…
ProcyonFlynn: That lockscreen had a good bird!
SnackPak_: lrrBartleby
mercano82: Tonight on TTADD
hedonistic_mushroom: Ian with the ESP32 out... Are we soldering anything or are we programming?
CodeIndigo: solder first, then maybe programming
MWGNZ: voltage regulator is my second favourite flavour of chip
realbadatthis_: @hedonistic_mushroom trying to program but manufacture defect requires solder first
hedonistic_mushroom: This an adafruit board?
Aceviru: @MWGNZ I love to accompany those with some Mountain Dew Voltage Kappa
realbadatthis_: combination kfc/taco bell has the best version of mountain dew
Aceviru: I feel that as tech advances, companies lean more on leaving details out. Which makes it less friendly for techs to work details out
hedonistic_mushroom: It's Friday morning where I am and I'm off to work. Love to have Horner Sensei in my ears as I try and debug my own software at work
Nigouki: if you Solonole...do you have a wheely chair and circle to each firing position? Or do you put the board on a lazy susan and rotate the board to the positions?
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xantos69: So, how's this going?
MWGNZ: left liberates
ArdCollider: o7 hi bob
BrowneePointz: the phrase is implying the front of the threads on the device
Aceviru: When going into the back of an engine or under one and your hand is towards you...yeah
BrowneePointz: Like when you try to fasten a new Toilet Lever and you're technically reversed
realbadatthis_: @Aceviru right hand rule. point your right hand in the direction you want the bolt to go. spin wrench in the direction of fingers flapping towards palm
Cptasparagus: Paul fingies
Aceviru: Paul to the rescue!
Cptasparagus: clearly we need a TTSF to mount a camera to the vise
MWGNZ: jamieOhjeez
ButButTheJesus: I wanna say Dan Ryckert has an Xbox that was taco bell themed that plays the ♪DONG♪ when turned on
CrossXhunteR: that's a hell of a vise
mercano82: rather than trying to swap the regulators, would it be possible to swap some of the wires in the cable to get the 5V to the pin it needs to be on the camera?
62MGcobra: is Ian letting out the magic smoke?
62MGcobra: just got here
CrossXhunteR: i think that's solder smoke, hopefully
Geldaran: @62MGcobra nah, but the board may be damaged.
realbadatthis_: @62MGcobra manufacturer defect, trying to swap voltage reg so it no burn itself
mercano82: @62mgcobra He bought some microcontrollers with some defects, he’s trying to repair them before using them
Aceviru: Ian getting his XP
TheMerricat: Joining late chat, I've managed to catch up some via chat but... were the defects known prior to stream or did Ian just discover them while working?
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realbadatthis_: @TheMerricat known prior
SnackPak_: oof
Aceviru: @TheMerricat Known defective. Attempting to repair and use. Though, the one chip missing the leg and the pad going missing were while working with them.
TheMerricat: Thanks @aceviru !
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Nigouki: we tailor our tinkering to the themes for the show!
Juliamon: "try turning it off and on again"
Aceviru: I was talking with the manager and got send to the machine again kind of vibes
MalFnord: oh I can’t wait for the AI bubble to finally explode
xantos69: AI: Exactly right enough for you to forget how very wrong it is.
Aarek: Yeah, AI is great at being wrong in a very confident manner
NotCainNorAbel: glorified autocomplete
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Aceviru: Dangit. I tried to use google AI to look up wifi to see if it says it stands for Wireless Fidelity. It gave the correct answer. Followed by a website defining it as the incorrect answer. There's still hope those will get swapped.
aquinas_0: today, hacker news - which I read sometimes for some reason - a group of people loudly proclaimed the singularity over an incorrect implementation of Towers of Hanoi
aquinas_0: again - it was wrong
aquinas_0: why.
KeytarCat: Everything always matters
realbadatthis_: dickbutt
ContingentCat: sneaky hobitses
TheDevil_Risen: wifi password : password
TheDevil_Risen: Kappa
MalFnord: 12345
Aceviru: p@ssw0rd123
Sethalidos: nah it's at least up to dickbutt7 by now
LoadingReadyRun: please, to be extra super secure we use d1ckbu77
KeytarCat: I knew someone whose wifi password was 12345687, because "who would ever guess that?"
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: passwords were more fun as psychological traps
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: yet another thing maths ruined
ohnodonovo: They have different numbers of cores and pinouts - not a very consistent set of devices
realbadatthis_: @KeytarCat In college we had to have passwords at least 16 characters long and had to include numbers. saw someone login by dragging their finger across from tilde to 0 and through the qwerty row.
KeytarCat: That was my friend's laptop password 😭
realbadatthis_: my password was always sixteenistoomany[currentyear]
Morrigan9: experiance?
KeytarCat: @realbadatthis_ ooh, very good
Too_Many_Knives: Arduino IDE also has a completely new version
KeytarCat: OH, I once had to make a password for a job at Home Depot and their system didn't allow spaces in password entry. It allowed spaces in password *creation*, just not *entry*
ArdCollider: I have a Meshtastic radio here and I should update the firmware and honestly the update process is terrifying.
A_Dub888: hi friends, anything on fire?
realbadatthis_: @KeytarCat D'oh
ArdCollider: for similar "what's new/ not new/ what do you have to use here" reasons.
realbadatthis_: @A_Dub888 lost a pad de-soldering a manufacturer's defect but everything has been pretty chill so far
Aceviru: @KeytarCat Yeah, their systems were pretty bad. So many things I had to fix on the back end and escalate because of how behind the times some of that stuff was.
NotCainNorAbel: Make sure the wizard has clean reliable AC Power
Cptasparagus: the ninja gets rid of the wizards
A_Dub888: !card the ninja
LRRbot: Can't find any card by that name
realbadatthis_: @Cptasparagus attracts pirates though
ghyllnox: The ninja is the stealth character in the wizard's party
Aceviru: @NotCainNorAbel You get it. Tying it all back together. Nice
NotCainNorAbel: lrrSHINE
SnackPak_: wow, AI sass
Aceviru: Oh no, that would be the worst. A future where every robot an AI assistant is just sassy.
realbadatthis_: @Aceviru i dunno, people loved bender
ghyllnox: The only times AI is clever is when it is earnestly mistaken. Like "This video will solve your problem!" and linking to a rickroll
LoadingReadyRun: @ghyllnox AI is a reflection of it's source material. If everyone is trolling with rickrolls in the training data, the AI will do it too :p
Too_Many_Knives: Release the Python!
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realbadatthis_: but muh everglades
ghyllnox: @LoadingReadyRun Exactly. Everyone's problems seem to be solved with this one video!
Aceviru: Good thing we have our brews
Juliamon: it's letting AI do the coding
ContingentCat: that's less fun than what I thought it was going to be
Cptasparagus: its the coding equivalent of a meal kit service
Too_Many_Knives: It lets terminally busy senior devs crank out code like they used to when they were less senior, in all the ways that means.
ghyllnox: As the president of buttplug.io Beej should be an expert in vibe coding
Too_Many_Knives: "No tool will ever save you the burden of clarifying your ideas"
rosesmcgee: As awful as AI is, my brother vibe-coded a whole communications and computer interface application using python code spat out by ChatGPT to help my other brother with leukodystrophy. It has changed his life.
Too_Many_Knives: Most code is dull and non-creative work. I see nothing wrong with using it for such work.
ghyllnox: It's all fine and dandy until it starts including malicious libraries
MWGNZ: the scary thing is financial institutions going all in on vibe coding
rosesmcgee: Someone commented that AI generated code will make you a "program" not a "product" which seems very accurate.
Aceviru: pog
TheNerdWonder: I've been using it at work to swap out one of our dependencies for another. So glad I didn't need to do the repetitive scut work
Too_Many_Knives: One interesting observation among my colleagues is people who work closely ON genAI tools also use genAI far less than people in other domains.
brainbosh: Is AI coding to educated coding like making furniture from particl board compared to an actual woodworker?
ArtOfStuttering: This isn't Undertale, Paul, you can't just put your entire program's text in one giant if-statement NotLikeThis
realbadatthis_: @brainbosh it is like getting potions from auntie ethel in BG3. some are poisonous and some can be useful
calculated_uncertainties: Cheer1 Cheer100 Cheer1
Too_Many_Knives: @brainbosh It's more like a master woodworker pawning the work off to an apprentice who isn't particularly apt.
quasarss777: yo
realbadatthis_: "why would I want to read something you didn't even care enough about to write?"
Aceviru: I was low key hoping Paul was going to say "If you want to hear more about AI, tune into our new podcast where I team up with Ian and talk about coding and tech"
ContingentCat: I hope they at least have an editor check it's not dramatically wrong
Juliamon: ContingentCat [Padme meme]
ghyllnox: Well, they'd have to pay the writers for the summaries then
Too_Many_Knives: @realbadatthis_ Yeah I hate that we're heading towards documentation written by machines for machines with humans as an afterthought
aquinas_0: @ContingentCat come now, they haven't bothered with spell check for half a decade
aquinas_0 cries
SquareDotCube: That's getting into Fahrenheit 451 territory
Too_Many_Knives: One exception is non-native-English writers using it to correct their grammar. Totally fine with that.
ghyllnox: Oh lmao and also that's awful
ContingentCat: yeah trying to get work as an editor a depressing amount of jobs is AI proofreading
SquareDotCube: @Too_Many_Knives it's as if a large language model is very good at that...
realbadatthis_: @Too_Many_Knives I think it will be self correcting when these companies try extracting their billions of investment equity back out of their base
aquinas_0: the ads are coming
ArtOfStuttering: 127.0.0.1 PogChamp
Aceviru: What? Noo
SnackPak_: I've spent all this time hacking localhost tho lrrBEEJ
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Aceviru: hahaha
Too_Many_Knives: ROFL
GreatSacrificer: we all had NukeNabber or something like that installed on our computers in high school to prevent that
Sethalidos: that was a User Friendly comic as well
Too_Many_Knives: Reversing the polarity didn't go well last time.....
TheDevil_Risen: awww :(
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HbombAndFriends: Get me some luftballons!
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TheDevil_Risen: thanks for the stream Ian!
TheDevil_Risen: Thanks Paul!
ContingentCat: Ever forward, moving learning
realbadatthis_: thanks for the stream!
Aceviru: lrrSHINE
ContingentCat: Thanks y'all lrrHEART
NotCainNorAbel: Pride500
imreallybored1991: based
TheAinMAP: !next
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aquinas_0: thank you for the stream
imreallybored1991: gigabasedchad
LordZarano: I wonder if you could use the camera system from a nano FPV drone
TheAinMAP: katesSteer guyjudgeSteer
TheDevil_Risen: I hope the sushi comes back!
Mai_Andra: PogChamp lrrAWESOME
NotCainNorAbel: or you know...watching twitch in France
aquinas_0: sad dear wolves are go
ghyllnox: Oooh Heather + Cori stream!
realbadatthis_: Glurp!
LordZarano: PrideCheers
TheAinMAP: lrrHEART
TheAinMAP: guyjudgeBits
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
62MGcobra: lrrSHINE lrrSHINE
KWardJenx: Thanks so much. See you Saturday, Ian!
TheAinMAP: PikaRamen
Earthenone: !gant
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