LoadingReadyRun:
what about emotional defence?
GapFiller: falls under the psychic heading
RockPusher: *squints at the label* no disclaimer, so sure!
GapFiller: just sayin lotta emotion eating and psychic attacks tend to go together
mtvcdm: Do you have to strictly *open* the book or is it just an affectation to assist in mental focus
LoadingReadyRun: Warning: ᴺᵒᵗ ᵗᵒ ᵇᵉ ᵗᵃᵏᵉⁿ ᶦⁿᵗᵉʳⁿᵃˡˡʸ ᵒʳ ᵉˣᵗᵉʳⁿᵃˡˡʸ ᶦⁿ ᶠᵃᶜᵗ ᵈᵒⁿ'ᵗ ᵗᵃᵏᵉ ᶦᵗ ᵃᵗ ᵃˡˡ.
LoadingReadyRun: its a potion of defense in the sense that you could probably use the bottle to block an attack. once.
GapFiller: smashed bottels do make half decent improvised weaponry
mtvcdm: If you break a full bottle of defense over someone's head in a bar does it cancel out
DoodlestheGreat: But what if the bottle holds a potion that makes clothes evaporate?
TehAmelie: i started reading a post about rabies and now i wish i had the defense potion
mtvcdm: Can you make a potion of defense so big that it can hurt itself in a fight
TehAmelie: i guess we have to try
TehAmelie: discover the defense singularity
mtvcdm: An ouroboros of defense
RockPusher: "Dear Seattle Delivery Company. The Potion of Defense I purchased contained a bobcat and not the defensive elixir I was anticipating. I would like to request a replacement or refund. Yours, scratched & bitten."
GapFiller: oooh speaking of unexpected wild animals saw a fox in the alley behind my house not 30mins ago
GapFiller: so that was neat
DoodlestheGreat: "Or 500 kilos of Purina Lynx Chow."
TheAinMAP: Title change.
GapFiller: eyyy yt is playing silly buggers w/ my ad blockers again
GapFiller: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: ChillPoint (Paul, Beej and Heather chat about Video Games and Video Game related news!) at Fri 02:00 PM PDT (0s ago).
RockPusher:
TheAinMAP:
GapFiller: phun phact something abt the way yt has been trying to get around my ad blockers is also doing strange things to the algorithm
GapFiller: the sidebar recc videos are tailored to me based on viewing history but the in player recc videos are all the defaults
GapFiller: meaning MrBeast and fascists by the bushel
TehAmelie: huh. just realized i haven't thought once about needing to block ads since i got ublock like years ago
TehAmelie:
only unblocking them on twitch cause i like my streamers 
GapFiller: strangely enough in my case ublock appears to be where Google have a problem
TehAmelie: Firefox may do most of the work
TehAmelie:
ahoy!
Thefluffiestguineapig: @GapFiller Same, it pisses me off to no end when it's trying to get me with fascists talking about video game lore when i only watch a specific set of people discuss video game lore because I vetted them and know they aren't terrible humans
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GapFiller: TehAmelie shd point out the Firefox ublock extension is still doing its job handily despite Googles best efforts and not a single ad has actually drakened my doors
TehAmelie: sweet
MungoDude: oh right, I completely forgot to reinstall ublock after switching from kinda-broken chromium to somewhat-functional brave
DoodlestheGreat: @GapFiller Remember that you can always tell YT to never suggest a specific channel using the three dots next to the suggested video.
Juliamon: the problem with that is there are *infinite* fascist channels
DoodlestheGreat: I've been doing that and it's cut down on the cruft measurably.
GapFiller: Juliamon its like the worst hydra ever
Juliamon: that's a lot of work for something we shouldn't have to do AT ALL
RockPusher: !quote beej
LRRbot: Quote #4909: "She's still wearing all of her clothing, which is very respectful." —Beej [2018-04-21]
DoodlestheGreat: @Juliamon But it only tries to give the ones with actual traffic. It doesn't take as long as you think to pare things down.
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DeM0nFiRe:
mtvcdm: nice hiss
RockPusher:
SocraticMethod: It's the Beach Episode ?!
raulghoulia: was on mike tho
Thefluffiestguineapig: Is Chillpoint the equivalent of the beach episode?
TheMerricat: Onsen episode
mtvcdm: !crossover
LRRbot: I can't wait for the LEGO adaptation of this game.
JadedCynic: @DoodlestheGreat I just object to people that I haven't personally vetted running potential malware on my computer, and no I don't trust anyone 'cleared' by AdSense or Google.
GapFiller: isnt the Beej episode just every episode
RockPusher: I imagine the Checkpoint anime is a Shirobako-like
GapFiller: they did the hot springs episode on RQ
GapFiller: like literally
hiFunko: I'm hanging out for the recap episode, it's all the best bits anyway. Just more efficient
TehAmelie: name: Beej. occupation: Beach.
GapFiller: we all saw Beej and the boys in that hot spring
RockPusher: You could have a flashback where the protag meets their SO at a journalism convention
GapFiller: Shut Up And Eat Your Christmas Cake!
DoodlestheGreat: @JadedCynic Oh, the actual ads I block completely.
RockPusher:
See, Heather is on my wavelength 
DoodlestheGreat: I think Heather's idea is best.
kingandcommoner: I imagine it would be Life Lessons with Uramichi Onii-san but with checkpoint instead of a japanese blues cluse
Snowcookies: FFXIV has a high school Au manga
DoodlestheGreat: Graham, Beej, Nelson & Cameron?
Snowcookies: Maybe Checkpoint could have one too
DoodlestheGreat: All that matters is that the anime is NOT made at GoHands.
RockPusher: Canada Dry?
GapFiller: eyyy high five 7UP bros Beej!
Orannis0: Chillpoint should become a show about talking about Chillpoint in other genres
TehAmelie: Chillpoint live reactions to Checkpoint?
GapFiller: got a 7UP can on my desk rn
RockPusher: Beej needs to select beverages better to set up jokes
RockPusher:
RockPusher: Free Sonic!
mtvcdm: It turns out Heather just wants to talk about random stuff for two hours
Dread_Pirate_Westley: That was Chillpoint, everybody! Thanks for watching!
GapFiller: its been a while since we had a Sonic 30th Anniversary story hasnt it
Jillexie: When has it not been Sonic's 30th anniversary?
RockPusher:
JadedCynic: the only thing I wanna say about Mindsey3 is that it's shown us, through deduction, how important Les Benzies was for the games that Rockstar North developed...
Thefluffiestguineapig:
@Jillexie When it was Sonic's 29th anniversary 
RockPusher: I do appreciate they were being technically correct with the "Classic" vs "Classics"
Dread_Pirate_Westley: I thought "forever" meant "until Tuesday."
GapFiller:
if anyone ever wants an idea of just how long forever really is check this out: https://qntm.org/pale
DoodlestheGreat: 'til Tuesday. Great band.
JadedCynic: that's enough time to get out of the bad luck from breaking a mirror!
richard_ermen: I love Chillpoint but this just flashbanged me xD
JadedCynic:
JadedCynic: *digs out sunglasses*
JadedCynic: ahhh
GapFiller: yo the blowing on the cartridge
Thefluffiestguineapig: Wow that hair
Orannis0: Wow, this is AGGRESSIVELY 90's
JadedCynic: yep
Thefluffiestguineapig: This is so profoundly 90's I just can't
raulghoulia: Shining Force 2 is still my favorite Genesis game
GapFiller: oh hey Lundi from Panzer Dragoon
GapFiller: theres a deepcut anna half
JadedCynic: that was sony
MungoDude: Blaze is one of the Streets of Rage protagonists I think
Foxmar320: 90s SEGA ads went hard
RockPusher: Someone dig a video toaster out of the basement
JadedCynic: WELCO METOT HENEX TEVEL
mtvcdm: urnote
TheMerricat: Counterpoint- No Mans Sky
Foxmar320: I tried Crazi Taxi last night and it features on screen and tilt controls
Laserbeaks_Fury: I still remember Phantasy Star on the Master System
mtvcdm: Why would you pay for dollars for Threes when you should be paying three
GapFiller: mono no aware is a double edged concept indeed
Laserbeaks_Fury: Yeah I played Clair Obscur on the Game Pass, but I definitely want to get a copy of it
DoodlestheGreat: Heather's got a point.
kingandcommoner: Would you liek them by release date or alphabetized?
JadedCynic: *gets out list*
mtvcdm: When has being bad ever stopped anyone from doing anything
Foxmar320: Wait are we talking bad Sonic games? I have opinions
DoodlestheGreat: "Sonic Suggests."
CaptainSpam:
Oh, please, name thirty other bad Sonic the Hedgehog games. 
undecided44: Colors?
Juliamon: Foxmar was summoned
MungoDude: sonic 4 episode 1 is still available for purchase on google play
Foxmar320: Sonic Forces, Sonic Superstars, Sonic 06, Sonic 4 EP 1 and 2, Shadow the Headgehog
Juliamon: Colors was fine, I will die on this hill
GapFiller: just think it figures a non zero percent of the present assembled are prob unaware of ye olde ENN story on the absurdly masochistic nature of the Sonic fandom and what they will accept
Foxmar320: I can keep going
DoodlestheGreat: I was just amused that you guys used the same Cohh Carnage clip as Skill Up & others.
Foxmar320: @Juliamon I liked Colors
JadedCynic: it's not a CURE to your game being bad; it's just a delaying tactic
mtvcdm: It's something Siskel and Ebert always called out from film sudios
Juliamon: DoodlestheGreat It's a good clip
CaptainSpam: The streamers getting their sponsored streams cut right before the streams begin was WILD.
mtvcdm: "pause"
DoodlestheGreat: The pause that refreshes.
Laserbeaks_Fury: "We can't have people seeing the gameplay before they buy it!"
SocraticMethod: Who has it worse, MindsEye PR department, 1047 Games PR department, or Sony-Marathon PR department
GapFiller: this is Zaslav Warners lvl of not reading the room
DoodlestheGreat: @SocraticMethod The answer is always Ubisoft.
JadedCynic: Streissand Effect writ large - if they'd just let the streams go on...it might've given them LESS attention
RockPusher: JadedCynic as always, the cover-up is worse than the crime
GapFiller:
JadedCynic: @RockPusher yup
SocraticMethod: @DoodlestheGreat Dunno, they haven't been actively shooting their foot and playing hot potato with hand-grenades. I haven't seen many being aware of the lawsuit
Thefluffiestguineapig: With No Man's Sky you don't have to deal with barely veiled libel accusations
JadedCynic: Again, root of the problem is unskilled executives that don't understand the creative field they're leading a studio in; it's getting a little repetitive...almost like we need to fire all the MBAs
DoodlestheGreat: Mindsey3 does not have either a really really dedicated team of devs like NMS has, or a really kickass anime from TRIGGER like Cyberpunk has.
JadedCynic: GTA-wannabe
Laserbeaks_Fury: Mindsey 2 was way better
mtvcdm: If this game *worked* it would be anonymous
CaptainSpam: In fairness, "GTA's not out yet, so eh" is how Saint's Row started, wasn't it?
JadedCynic: @Laserbeaks_Fury yeah, the original Mindsey was too early - the tech of the time couldn't let it do what it wanted; Mindesy2 hit the sweet spot.
JadedCynic: 'worked on' - this implies how much did he help (or hinder)?
JadedCynic: *AHEM*
JadedCynic: former DMA
Laserbeaks_Fury: Lets be fair, even Saints Row was kinda mid. They only hit big when they went big on their own tone
GapFiller: imagine a world where DMA Design just kept on making Lemmings games
JadedCynic: ^^^^
RockPusher: Far too many managers see their job as telling people what to do rather than enabling people to get on with the work without distraction
JadedCynic: yes
GapFiller: that being said a world w/o Silicon Valley and Body Harvest wd be that little bit grayer personally
mtvcdm: 'but I'M a VISIONARY i;m built different'
Laserbeaks_Fury: I would argue people like Detroit *despite* David Cage
GapFiller:
mtvcdm yet another way in which the game 
are currently playing fwd is particularly on the nose
JadedCynic: there ARE a few 'execs' that HAVE the skills; they were 'promoted through the ranks' (and some CEOs actually do dev work on their projects)...
GapFiller: JadedCynic as the mxim goes Jobs and Gates certainly knew howto read code
JadedCynic:
yeah, and Jobs got Woz to do all his work 
JadedCynic:
and Gates bought his source code 
7gorobei: it wasnt necessarily jobs' assholeness, jobs was good at recognizing a good product
RockPusher: Kojima is a good argument for Auteur Theory in video games
JadedCynic: Kojima is a better example; I'd wager he could still make a fun & wierd little thing during a gamejam
GapFiller: phunny fella Steve Wozniak it always feels he doesnt get his due somehow (despite having made out quite handily for himself) such is the outsize nature of Jobs
Laserbeaks_Fury: He doesn't want "fun game" love, he wants "thought provoking art" love
Marvoleath: Most important thing from the Kojima's interview is that he understands that other people's jobs depend on the game's / company's success; which seems unique in the executives / directors level
RockPusher: You need the intersection of Visionary and Leader - having the singular vision yes, but also the skills to bring your team along with you toward your vision and deliver on it practically
mtvcdm: He wants you to *remember* his games
JadedCynic:
@Laserbeaks_Fury and good for him; when I'm in the mood for that, I'll check his stuff out
GapFiller:
heres an auteur theoretical: have we ever had a video gaming Dave Sim
JadedCynic: @Marvoleath amen
RockPusher: Early Apple Jobs was an amazing Visionary but a terrible Leader
Doc_Layzah: Challenging
RockPusher: "abstract" art
GapFiller: it figures this conv gets at the art entertainment liminal space
GapFiller: like genrally art and entertainment are obv one and the same
Sethalidos: @RockPusher Jobs was always a shit human
GapFiller: but in cases like this it feels people like Kojima wanna force that difference
Laserbeaks_Fury: God, there's a great moment in God of War that does that
SocraticMethod: @Sethalidos Both are true at the same time
Laserbeaks_Fury: Ludonarrative Resonance
mtvcdm: He's a man who wants you to recruit people by sending them away on a balloon
TehAmelie: i bet Kojima deep down still dreams of making a self-destructing game where you only get one try. . .
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mtvcdm: GO LEFT
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TehAmelie So he dreams of making shitty versions of old arcade games?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Welcome raiders!
GapFiller: !left
TehAmelie: or hi-fi versions of old Game and Watch games
LordZarano: !advice
LRRbot: Raw dog that boulder.
Marvoleath: One of Cthulhu games had controls linked to the sanity of the protagonist, the more stress and madness was imposed on your character, the less reliable the controls were
Sethalidos: @TehAmelie don't give SWERY ideas please
GapFiller: TehAmelie the video gaming equivalent of William Gibsons Agrippa eh
mtvcdm: what if you were a sausage
JadedCynic:
that was SO great to hear 
RockPusher:
I liked that story apart from being reminded that I am old and young people exist
GapFiller: okay neu hedcanon: The Moonbase one of those old sitcom houses
JadedCynic:
(didja notice that Angelos Mako actually commented? )
GapFiller: we already know Graham and Paul share a bed Morcambe & Wise style afterall
Juliamon: "How do you know about someone's kids" has the same answer as "how do you know someone plays Lalafell"
RockPusher: GapFiller Full Moonbase [saxophone intensifies]
Doc_Layzah: I remember a lot of chain letter style "so better by recruiting friends" mechanics
ghyllnox: Lots of "get friends to play and earn stuff" too
JadedCynic:
Determination, which paid off
gnyrinn: @Juliamon That's only some parents. You learn to ignore them in time.
GapFiller: case in point aiui there are forthcoming remasters for which the original source code has been lost (wanna say FFTactics?)
Sethalidos: @gnyrinn it's expected for the first, after that it's less so
JadedCynic:
RockPusher: The old Toy Story 2 rm -rf * incident
DeM0nFiRe:
GapFiller:
Sethalidos: Beej those games exist on Steam
GapFiller: RockPusher just looked that up and the mind boggling detail is that Pixar apprently didnt have dedicated IT people at the time of Toy Story 2 production!?
ghyllnox: A lot of those games are made better by just turning off any internet. Stops the ads loading
Sethalidos: yeah that tracks
ghyllnox: I'm okay with "watch an ad to get a thing" but not with "you've played for 5 minutes, now it's ad time"
SocraticMethod: 10 USD
drawnbinary: I wish NSO would let me just spend $15-20 for the 3 games I want forever cus now I never want to subscribe to the service to just play Pokemon Snap every couple years
ghyllnox: Mobile is the platform that people often have even if they're low-income or kids or something. The type of people that would sooner watch an ad than pay money
GapFiller: nice segue Paul
RockPusher: Graham channelling Kathleen is always fun
RockPusher:
RockPusher: yup
RockPusher: you can be fully aware of the sunk-cost fallacy and still fall victim to it
mtvcdm: It's hard to just go 'I can just DNF this and play a different thing'
drawnbinary: My neopets chores.....
niccus: are you making ice cubes because if you're not making ice cubes you're wasting potential ice cubes
JLHonors: "Game chores" is a good phrase
7gorobei: it is the cherry on the cake for the issues Snap has been facing this year. 2024 was the dark times for the playerbase due to card acquisition issues. they changed the acquisition system in april, but instead of making cards easier to get, they flooded the game with more cards, pushing the goalpost of collection complete even further back.
Snowcookies: I've definitely been burnt out of playing mobile games cos of the sunk-cost fallacy
RockPusher:
Yes, fellow humans… 
mtvcdm: [notadding quote] [beej] This is the lubricant that allows us to have a good time together.
Sethalidos: @RockPusher 1101100011011101101
RockPusher: Boiling frogs works… if you remove their nerves
GapFiller: jumping tracks slightly who among us has not had a Twitch channel they have continued to sub beyond reason
gnyrinn: Not if you put the lid on the pot real quick.
DoodlestheGreat: "I'm warm enough. Now to go get a nice coffee milk."
Juliamon: ''cooks''
RockPusher:
DionTheBlackDragon: Finland isn't in scandinavia and the Finns get mad at you for saying that xD
JadedCynic:
GapFiller: yeh Finns really hate being lumped in w/ Swedes Danes ect
OldUncleDan: What works for you doesn't necessarily work for someone else.
RockPusher:
e_bloc: like the old norwegian proverb: swedes have short (genitalia) and long memories
RockPusher: Fennoscandia…
Izandai: Fennoscandia
Laserbeaks_Fury: If the average temperature of the Earth jumped 10 degrees in a year, people would notice. But spread it out over 20 years and it becomes way more acceptable
Izandai: #drift
DionTheBlackDragon: xD
TehAmelie: i like "the northlands"
DionTheBlackDragon: yeah i go with "nordic countries"
GapFiller: but Paul it comes w/ so much useless tat!
RockPusher: It's the edition for people who plan on collecting the game
RockPusher:
GapFiller: useless tat is WAY more important than owning the disc itself
Izandai:
@Laserbeaks_Fury 
Orannis0: To be fair, it's not being sold as a "collector's edition", that was Twitter that said it is
Angreed66: yeah I'm with Beej here
ghyllnox: It's weird, but it's not like I'd have bought the collector's edition without having the game first
DoodlestheGreat: Twit-ler being Twit-ler.
Orannis0: It's the Echo-4 Bundle or something
JadedCynic: there ya go - Collector's Edition Upgrade
RockPusher: Merch Bundle
Laserbeaks_Fury: DeLiverable Content
ghyllnox: Ooh I like "Physical DLC"
richard_ermen: Physical DLC? You mean Expension Packs?
DoodlestheGreat: Call it "The Pile O' Crap." Which, given this is Borderlands, is within the tone of the beneral marketing.
DoodlestheGreat: beneral? general.
JadedCynic: maybe you don't know you like the game yet - maybe it's a Kojima joint, and you start out weirded out by the game, but over time, you come ot love it...
Laserbeaks_Fury: I do kinda want to get an Esquie plush
Marvoleath: !store
bytecaster: "Oh, Banana!"
ThorSokar: Did they verify the suspicion that the Donkey in that game is Young Cranky?
RockPusher:
bytecaster: Captain Toad, Treasure Tracker
ThorSokar: Last non-remake was Wii
MMoritz: freeze was Wii u
bytecaster: All those Donkey heads in the audience going crazy right now
JadedCynic: aka the one that's not a baby
JadedCynic: ???
ThorSokar: Oh, Returns was Wii, my bad, stupid headache
Izandai: Yeah don't think about it.
bytecaster: Maybe Mario was the bad guy all along!
gnyrinn: I wonder if the Engine-executable will be titled "monke" like in that King Kong game.
Izandai: Nintendo doesn't care and you shouldn't either.
bytecaster: "Lets talk about parallel Donkeyverses"
MMoritz: or, it’s a different cranky kong
JadedCynic: *holds head* ow.
Izandai:
bytecaster: Everytime he rolls, I worry
Angreed66: Every game is a separate parallel timeline. There I solved every timeline discussion.
SocraticMethod: Time passes differently in the Jungle Between
ThorSokar: Oh, there's constant lyrics?
MMoritz: no one cared that original donkey became cranky. what if original donkey had his own cranky? it’s not that hard for me to understand
cmdrud87: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Friday Night Paper Fight (The LRR crew plays Magic the Gathering! This week it's the Final Fantasy Intro Pack Jamboree! Game: Magic: The Gathering) at Fri 05:00 PM PDT (1:42 from now).
GapFiller: Monkey King!
GapFiller: Monkey King rhythm game even
mtvcdm: !youtube
kingandcommoner: How did they make Donkey Kong a furry?
bytecaster: Wu Kong is in that game!?
Bruceski: Ice king VA nailed it
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bytecaster: They should call it Xbox One again!
bytecaster: There marketing thing is "Everything is an Xbox" right?
ThorSokar: I mean if it's a contest, they are in last place by a substantial margin
SocraticMethod: Xbox Deck
ThorSokar: It's a "We are terrified of how much the SteamDeck is eating our lunch"
CaptainSpam: Finally, an XBox Smart Toaster!
Thefluffiestguineapig: o.0
JadedCynic: apparently the hardware itself is decent....but Asus has horrible customer service, and now they're joining forces with M$... get it, have fun, but don't expect any help if it breaks
Thefluffiestguineapig: That's so meaningless
KodeMage: good
Thefluffiestguineapig: Stunningly meaningless
DoodlestheGreat: "Could be raining..."
ThorSokar: I mean, that was the deal with the first Xbox, the impetus was "a console easy to develop for" which is very funny to me
bytecaster: Given that the original Xbox OS was just heavily modified Windows 2000, they are coming full circle
ThorSokar:
bytecaster
RockPusher: Wonder if SteamOS will be officially available for it at some point
KodeMage: they're all just computers, the question is do you want a general purpose device or purpose built device.
accountmadeforants: @JadedCynic Yeah, our IT department gave up on Surface devices real quick. Microsoft's hardware support is an embarrassment. Though Asus is still worse for actively trying to dodge repairs covered by warranty and tacking on extra charges
LurkerSpine: Well it also will play cloud games, which probably opens up at least some of the console "locked" games
bytecaster: Ouja was just a phone
bytecaster: it was running Android
JadedCynic: @accountmadeforants or 'threaten to return a disassembled product if they find it had been worked on by end-users'
bytecaster: IIRC, Valve is making SteamOS available to more devices, which is neat!
RockPusher: Steambox they gave up on 'cause the Steam app on Android has that functionality built-in
RockPusher: also full-fat micropcs got cheaper
gnyrinn: I'm not keen on a Steam Box, but judging by the sound of how some people around me speak of the Steam Controller, I want that to return.
ThorSokar: Based on what I have heard from hardware devs, the SteamDeck is wildly successful to the point that they get "It works this way on the Deck, just make it work like that" which is VERY funny
accountmadeforants: Steam Machines, not Steam Box
LordZarano: @bytecaster The Lenovo "Legion Go S Powered by SteamOS" is "Coming Soon"
bytecaster: The Steam Deck is just a great experience at an affordable price
ThorSokar: SteamOS is being improved to be a stand-alone thing, so they are working on the thing you want
bytecaster: You have heard of the Steam Deck OLED, how about the Steam Deck NOLED!
LordZarano: You can also just hook a Steam Deck up to a TV. You can dock it like a Switch
ANeMzero: The docking experience with the Deck was really, really rocky for the first couple years but it has actually ironed out the problems.
accountmadeforants: @gnyrinn I have a Steam Controller (got it brand new from a retailer for less than 10 euros when they were dumping them). It's a fun concept but not that great. (The joysticks and face buttons are annoyingly tiny and hard to reach, and the touchpads are only situationally useful. The Steam Deck's layout is more sensible, however.)
richard_ermen: "The little box that wanted to"
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kingandcommoner: PSTV was actually pretty good, it just had a terrible game library
ANeMzero: a docked steam deck is my summer daily driver because my desktop is Too Hot (hot damn)
RockPusher:
XBOX Fridge When?
ThorSokar: haha the 3DO approach (where's my fellow olds at)
DoodlestheGreat: You can make them with and without nuts!
accountmadeforants: The Xbox Ish, followed by the Xbox Adjacent, the Xbox Like, and the Is This An Xbox?
Marvoleath: That's basically what happens with nVidia, right?
SocraticMethod: That just sounds like worst of both worlds. No target hardware and no option to upgrade
7gorobei: min spec amd APU in any form factor
bytecaster: Some kind of Xbox Series of devices, perhaps?
Marvoleath: same chipset, different companies have different versions, cooling, memory etc
DeM0nFiRe: You know what's funny? "Xbox Series" would have worked a lot better as a name for a generation that had various different formfactors instead of just the now-typical 2 variations
gnyrinn: @accountmadeforants I see. Your experience does not rhyme with my colleague's experience, so Your Mileage May Vary, I guess. Thanks. For the information.
ThorSokar: (For those who don't remember 3DO was just a reference spec for a CD based console, the 3DO company never made the hardware themselves)
JDogg2K4: I've actually seen a few recent pics of a costco selling steam decks
SocraticMethod: Steam Decks have proprietary drivers for the hardware so they lose some optimization
ANeMzero: Valve also has the benefit of being able to have a very small margin on the hardware because they can cover the rest in software sales. Other manufacturers don't get that Console style strategy.
hedonistic_mushroom: Darn I just woke up.
SocraticMethod: OH man, series S and X feature parity. So much sleepless nights and lost hair
GapFiller:
kingandcommoner: Well, when you have redo an entire games graphics because you stole most of the assets...
mtvcdm: Marathon DNF'ed
accountmadeforants:
@gnyrinn It really is just up to what you like, obviously. It's entirely possible it's exactly what your colleague wants. (Just like how I still want a leverless fighting game controller that's split in two parts and angled for my wrists 
)
JadedCynic: Bungie got the big hook and pulled it off the stage...
terribleplan: Who could have seen this coming...
SocraticMethod:
"It's not a sprint, it's a Marathon (tm)"
accountmadeforants: *tented
ANeMzero: the race to release, it's not a-- dammit. beat me to it.
bytecaster: "We will no longer give you hope, the game is delayed forever"
Orannis0: Delayed indefinitely = we're quietly killing it so there's less drama
terribleplan: Bungie has not defined the length of the delay
accountmadeforants: It's usually pretty good odds that indefinitely = forever
SocraticMethod: @Orannis0 They can't, it would kill Bungie
kingandcommoner: Unless they're making it not an extraction-shooter I don't care
JadedCynic: *poof*
Shurtal: it's a Tarkov
MungoDude: it's another game with the same name as an older game, like Prey or Thief
JadedCynic: "the current fad"
accountmadeforants: "Here's the thing that was popular when we started making it several years ago, with a Marathon sticker on it!"
terribleplan: Extraction Shooter is the new Live Service is the new MMO
bytecaster: Why revive a name if it then caters to a totally different audience?
SocraticMethod: @MungoDude Hey, Thi4f did have connections to the older series. It just wasn't a good game
Shurtal: yeah, Prey 2017 was an all time great, that was completely screwed by being forced to be called prey
accountmadeforants: @Shurtal It's real annoying, yeah. They're both really good games but completely unrelated. (And also that proper Prey 2 trailer from way back still lives in my head rent-free.)
accountmadeforants: (And even that Prey 2 was substantially different from Prey 1)
TehAmelie: it was cool when they called Doom 4 "Doom" but in effect they're just making chores for everyone who then have to distinguish Doom (1992) and Doom (2016)
Shurtal: @accountmadeforants Yeah, Prey 2 will always be in the "What Could Have Been" Hall of Fame
GapFiller: pessimism is just realism by another name
ANeMzero: @Shurtal The funniest part about Prey 2017 is the the vibes were very similar to the first version of the XCOM reboot, (that became The Bureau) which also had very little to do with the original and was sort of having a name forced upon it.
ThorSokar: "management has decided these things are included, management has changed their mind, management has changed their mind, pray they don't change their mind again"
bytecaster: Everybody is just making too many games that need to become someones main game to succeed, and that will likely not stop anytime soon.
JadedCynic: "whoops! Quick- where's the lore dude?"
accountmadeforants: "You wanted Marathon in your Maraton? We had no idea!"
gnyrinn: @Shurtal I'm not sure I agree with that. The original Prey was mostly forgotten and so it wasn't that much of an anchor for the new Prey to drag. The one-word title is an asset in of itself, probably outweighing the memory of the old Prey.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Shocking, we wanted Marathon in the Marathon thing
JadedCynic: I burned myself out on beta testing in the Teens...
SocraticMethod: Speaking of metroid prime 4, have you seen the whoopsie someone did with the ad on London Underground?
7gorobei: AAA game publishers are always chasing game trends from 2 to 4 years ago
mtvcdm: It's been five years, time to tell you we restarted Beyond Good and Evil 2 again
mtvcdm: oh
kingandcommoner: Haha, official silkposting
bytecaster: @mtvcdm I really liked original Beyond Good and Evil and at this point I just don't care anymore
ThorSokar: YES BEEJ
ThorSokar: YYYY-MM-DD forever
LordZarano: RFC3339 FTW
e_bloc: that all makes sense. it'll never happen because shrug america
SocraticMethod: "Metroid Prime 4: Beyond and Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition are not yet available and are scheduled for release in 2025."
Shurtal: @gnyrinn it's the fact that Prey 2 was shown in a couple of demos, and that hooked poeople on this "Cool thing from this not really well regarded IP" that was then scrapped JUST to get the name, which was forced onto something that it wasn't meant to be. Prey 2017s working title was Psychoshock, which makes way more sense
gnyrinn: Or at leas Don't separate your days months and years by a hyphen unless you follow the ISO standard.
Izandai: I should shit everyone's pants.
Izandai: *would
Izandai: if they shadowdropped Prime 4
kingandcommoner: Prime Remastered was a shadow-drop
DeM0nFiRe: prime 1 remaster was shadow dropped
bytecaster: @Izandai But I need those, to wear!
UnknownFriday: @Izandai With this typo it sounds way more like a threat.
Izandai:
mtvcdm: !clip
LRRbot:
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Izandai: @UnknownFriday It's a bad one.
Marvoleath: Oblivion Remaster went from "leak that it's happening" to "out now" within a week
SocraticMethod:
kingandcommoner: there was an advertisement for mInd's eye beneath it and someone ripped it in just the right spot
Izandai: I was actually thinking of it more like "I should buy a boat."
UnknownFriday: @Izandai If I ever see someone I don't know in my apartment with a pair of my trousers, I'll know.
SocraticMethod: "Metroid Prime 4: Beyond and Metroid Prime 4: Beyond - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition are not yet available and are scheduled for release in 2025."
Izandai:
SocraticMethod: Official Nintendo PR
GapFiller: yeh this has been rumbling along recently
bytecaster: Nexus Mods: The Reason Skyrim is still a going concern
TheMerricat: The world is ending RE:Nexuods
Izandai: The Mass Effect 2 buttshot saga.
Orannis0: It was NOT sold
Orannis0: It just changed hands
SocraticMethod: Mod that removes asscam in ME2 and mod that adds asscam in ME2 remaster (same modder)
Izandai: Yup
GapFiller: ownership has changed hands might be better phrasing yeh
Orannis0: He's still involved, just not the owner any more
SocraticMethod: Might have been sold, just covered in PR speak
Izandai: Because, in his own words, someone was gonna make a mod to add the asscam back in, so it might as well be him, since he already knew how to do that from making the mod to remove the asscam.
TheMerricat: Chosen - VC firm focusing on monetizing games
Izandai: It had to be him. Someone else might've gotten it wrong.
SocraticMethod:
@Izandai
terribleplan: Yet (is the fear)
Izandai: (he also made a version of the asscam mod that plays fart sounds any time Miranda's ass is onscreen)
Izandai: That version does not disclose that addition in its description.
kingandcommoner: So it'll be gone in two year
vinewood_og: Words are free
LurkerSpine: everyone's gonna pivot to game banana
TehAmelie: i figure they'll limit downloads for free users, much like they do now
vinewood_og: Warp Speed Enshitification. Got it.
ThorSokar: website ad revenue is in the crapper anyways, less ads is easy to say
TheMerricat: He's been talking about stepping down for over a year. Folks were just hoping it'd be to someone other than a VC firm
itmightbemikey: PRemium allows fast download speeeds
TheMerricat: Staff of 40. They make money off of selling memberships access to VIP download speeds.
LurkerSpine: You can get faster/more downloads
bytecaster: Maybe less things should have comments?
vinewood_og: Jonestown was also "a community."
TheMerricat: @bytecaster Don't disagree but modding probably should be a community
kingandcommoner: There's a reason Crunchyroll turned the comments off
RockPusher: Community you say?
RockPusher: !discord
LRRbot:
LRR has an official Discord server! And you don't even need to be subbed or anything! You can join here: https://discord.gg/lrr
mtvcdm: Don't worry chat y'all are cool
bytecaster: @mtvcdm How dare you! I have never once been cool!
RockPusher: mtvcdm you take that back, I am suprememly uncool
OldUncleDan: Why would a sophistically social species make everything that has a method of communicating a social network?
kingandcommoner: What can you strip-mine from Nexus though?
Aarek: I was just worried it was gonna get sold to overwolf
SocraticMethod: @kingandcommoner User data and preferences. Mods and communities
RockPusher: "No no no, we're not vampires, we're… we… we facilitate lifeblood management for less experience clients… yes."
SocraticMethod: It's more likely that Nexus data is treated as an asset to be sold and monetized than taxing the userbase itself
mtvcdm: Yeah. Knowing *who* to give control to is a massively important decision.
gualdhar: fuck yeah we're great
terribleplan: I'm just waiting for Overwolf and Fandom to merge and become somehow more cancerous.
LordZarano: !chat
LRRbot: Chat seems active.
Sarah_Serinde:
Streamers, mods, and chat all come together to set the tone and it all contributes to a really good place 
Thefluffiestguineapig: We try our best and our mods work very hard
Thefluffiestguineapig:
SocraticMethod: The two new owners could totally be cool and interested in mods but unfortunately the well is well and truly poisoned
Anubis169:
chat
RockPusher: *gently lays chair on its side* Smash the State!
dumbo3k:
OldUncleDan: Or maybe he's been doing this for so long and he just wanted to be done.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Delegation is the only way to have a well managed community
TehAmelie:
TheMerricat:
LilyOfTheVeil666:
Sarah_Serinde: Gotta get my fulfillment from somewhere and it sure isn't from my day job
dumbo3k: And we have great streamers too!
GapFiller: idk Community Love seems like a +ve note to end on
TheAinMAP:
mtvcdm: Kittens!
RockPusher:
GapFiller: well that one kitten was apparently a monster anyway
mtvcdm: Ferrets then!
MungoDude:
gualdhar: wait that's just furries
Mai_Andra: human teeth like Sonic
TheMerricat: How about a stuffed elephant! Those are cute!
dumbo3k: @TehAmelie thank you
RockPusher: The AI finger thing just a cover for the polydactyl cat takeover
RockPusher:
CaptainSpam: "If you're watching this on YouTube, it's already too late, you're one of us now."
GapFiller: mind how the algorithm interacts w/ yr ad blockers
mtvcdm: Set Beej as your lock screen
TheAinMAP: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Friday Night Paper Fight (The LRR crew plays Magic the Gathering! This week it's the Final Fantasy Intro Pack Jamboree! Game: Magic: The Gathering) at Fri 05:00 PM PDT (59m from now).
RockPusher: Fighting Paper? Better bring Rock!
bytecaster: @RockPusher Don't run with scissors though
GapFiller: eyyy more Split Fiction
TheAinMAP:
dumbo3k: Free Fallin'!
TheMerricat: Freeeeee fallllling
GapFiller:
!?
RockPusher: wheeeeee
GapFiller: Split Fiction AND E33 such decadence
Izandai: ooh
bytecaster: Piloting the megazord together!
ThorSokar: So legally distinct Power Rangers?
RockPusher: One Must Fall 2097 QWOP?
DoodlestheGreat: Say, beej, any idea when the Summer anime rundown will be?
TheAinMAP:
Marvoleath: !schedule
LordZarano: @GapFiller I use an addon called "'Improve YouTube!' 🎧 (For YouTube & Video)" to turn off the end-of-video recommendations screen (among other changes)
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
JadedCynic: boom - surprise beej strem
RockPusher:
ThorSokar: hah, nice
Phailhammer: LuL
dumbo3k: @JadedCynic just immediately go into it after check point xD
Thefluffiestguineapig: Fun stream as always!
TehAmelie: now to watch the coffee adventures
Sethalidos: @dumbo3k he has an hour till paper fight
GapFiller: Sethalidos gotta go fast
anhakha: Do we have FNM in an hour, or am I getting my days mixed up?
GapFiller: today is Friday yes
Earthenone: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Friday Night Paper Fight (The LRR crew plays Magic the Gathering! This week it's the Final Fantasy Intro Pack Jamboree! Game: Magic: The Gathering) at Fri 05:00 PM PDT (52m from now).
Juliamon: we have !next and !schedule for that
GapFiller: !schedule
anhakha: Nice, thanks. I'm in the UK, so I always get mixed up cos it just became Saturday here.
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