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pleonasticTautology: hi james, hi graham
TehAmelie: good day
Justherefortherewards: Him James, me gongaga?
Sorator13: was that... the final Final Fantasy intro?
TehAmelie: i heard it pronounced ay-renoh
Sorator13: ah, then we'll probably have one more at that time
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Justherefortherewards: Already heading into preview season feels LUDICROUSLY fast
jamesinor: Cursed idea for the ATLA set: Secret Tunnel Saga, but it has an empty chapter because the singer forgot the words to the song
pleonasticTautology: graham have you considered a button that literally says "a funny thing"
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BlightwidowMTG: did you have fun in Vegas?!
pleonasticTautology: i genuinely do not know how to draft
Dog_of_Myth: Airship Crash isn't bad but it will wheel usually
Flyingdelorion:
Darn, just got a drink and you went live! Hello James and Graham, hope you are doing fine today! 
TehAmelie: does chat know help? chat only knows help
Justherefortherewards: I like izzet with job select equipments, but you'd want some of the payoffs for non-creatures
Mangledpixel: chonkabo!
FlargBlarg: ramuh is good for sure
BrowneePointz: rg landfall birds rb wizards ur big spell rw equips for James’ edification
chancellorpalpatine66: esper or fat choco
KaleidoscopeMind: chonkobocobo
GredGredmansson: is ramuh good? i've found him very underwhelming
pleonasticTautology: i may fall asleep to this dream
Earthenone: maybe we can wheel that BBBBB god to cheat in
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SolarBlitz1: That's a bit cute
Flyingdelorion: That is Magical Christmasland!
Justherefortherewards: the equipment destruction thing is way more relevant in this set than you'd normally expect
Snowwraith: There's so much equipment you'd like to be gone.
TheOneCalledStu: i heard my name wha
Snowwraith: The equipment destroy clause also means it can kill creatures buffed from the equipment too.
BrowneePointz: now we just need someone to do a FF9 PiF
Sorator13: I'm so excited for it
GredGredmansson: I am very much anticipating it Graham
StewartRWyatt: @TheOneCalledStu Same, though different spelling
123 raiders from SergeYager have joined!
Mangledpixel: heck yeah. What's the projected runtime?
NovaTiempo: o7
pleonasticTautology: hi serge!
brieandbacon: Serge says "Butts!"
pleonasticTautology: hi raiders!
Justherefortherewards: I've since started and finished the entirety of FFXIV A Realm Reborn, so I'm very ready for the video
lamina5432: we present chaos
brieandbacon:
yomidian:
respectful raid
measureofhope:
Respectful Serge raid
TehAmelie: i'm so psyched for it
GredGredmansson: oh wow that's sooner than i thought after you said that that's neat
joallthedogs:
@brieandbacon 
pleonasticTautology: did you bring enough coffee for everyone
Dog_of_Myth: Heya Raiders
BrowneePointz: speaking of yall the worldbuilding and Story for EoE so far has been I N C R E D I B L E
IanAllenBird: respectful raid
brieandbacon:
Cunobelenos: Serge told us to embarrass him.
SergeYager:
i did, thank you 
Mangledpixel: bloop rinse
measureofhope: Bloop Rinse!
Snowwraith: Happens to everyone.
kristian_fischer: Yeeeep. Hi all.
Bladinus: The dev really do love there puns in that game.
pleonasticTautology: oh yeah speaking of final fantasy: not only am i going to st art streaming soon (next week!) but i'm *also* going to be playing every mainline final fantasy *in numerical order!*
SergeYager: wow, i love both coffee AND me
BlightwidowMTG: @SergeYager hey!!
OldUncleDan: What up, party people in the place to be!
SergeYager: what a great deal
FlargBlarg: We're bripe for a new episode
kumatsu: that's the season finale
Marvoleath: Are you a regular briper now, G?
kristian_fischer: That's the series finale, James
TheAinMAP:
SergeYager:
omg, spoilers 
LittleDonnieJ: Tea's not that different from coffee
incslayer: when are you getting a bripe Graham?
pleonasticTautology: i was introduced to briping by james hoffman, who put on a fake beard and went into the woods to talk about it
ELD_Winterlight: Is it just me or is hill gigas really effin good
Sorator13: right, and you left it behind on the rocks anyway, so you couldn't have used it after that
BlueChloroplast: Tea-se
Mangledpixel: tease the tea
Aarek: its marketing!
lightfut: I just like hearing people say bripe
Going_Medium: tease teas?
BrowneePointz: Fat Bripes
kristian_fischer: So G, are you over yesterday's Watch
MajorFrostbyte: As someone who does a lot of day hikes, a bripe actually seems fairly useful to me.
SerGarretCameron: Serge is still in puzzle game mode, everything is spoilers, rn.
couchboyj: A Tea-se
GredGredmansson: oh behemoth too
kumatsu: I did a draft last week that was double gigas, double trex, double diamond weapon, and a bunch of ramp spells
OldUncleDan: My preferred brew method involves a Kurieg and a Hot Chocolate pod.
Gekyouryuu: Vaan-ery storm
silvertabbycat:
@incslayer when someone sends him one and we see it in mailtime 
EvilBadman: Not a spoiler that a season with three different brew methods will continue to have more brew methods
BlueChloroplast: What set is this?
lZodsl: Howdy everyone! Hope your Thursday is going well!
GredGredmansson: @BlueChloroplast final fantasy
BlueChloroplast: Ah nice
Marvoleath: @BlueChloroplast Magic: The Gathering - Final Fantasy
OldUncleDan: Vaan gets two cards yet Fran gets a half a card.
FlargBlarg:
one is vaan, one is "captain basch von ronsenburg of dalmasca" 
GredGredmansson: prishe's wanderings so good
GredGredmansson: oh hey he combos with the Loporrit Scouts
Earthenone: its also a 2 drop
Earthenone: its so nice
ChroniclerC: Fireball with a free bear.
Gekyouryuu: "When you're swinging with a Vaan down by the river!"
BrowneePointz: I don’t fear many things Graham but that Red Chocobo? that thing terrifies me
pleonasticTautology: red chocobos are terrifying
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BlueChloroplast: Lots of FF players have died to red chocobo I've heard
pleonasticTautology: [hans moleman voice] i also played FF11 at the time
Mr_Bitterness: I dyed my FFXIV Chocobo red in honor of Red Comet
Foxmar320:
Graham and James
pleonasticTautology: i was a teen
pleonasticTautology: also hi foxmar
OldUncleDan: Yuna has been my favorite Brawl commander in this set!
BrowneePointz: yep There’s a Red Chocobo World Quest Boss in ff14 and it SLAUGHTERS raid groups
BrowneePointz: like just DECIMATES them
Gekyouryuu: It reduces by one tenth?
GredGredmansson: giving menace to the grimoire guy seems neat
pleonasticTautology: @BrowneePointz i love bozja so much (:
ThreeTwoOnePantsOff:
50 let’s Finalize some fantasies!
BrowneePointz:
@gekyouryuu 
Snowwraith: Isn't it more legendary creatures than non-legendary? I forget.
lZodsl: Doing Gavins unknown event at Gencon. Any idea of what I'm getting in to?
Mr_Bitterness: @lZodsl Fun!
GredGredmansson: oh quina works really well with the equipment guys
GredGredmansson: oh hi diamond weapon
lZodsl: Ah gee lol
Flyingdelorion: unknow but not unloved?...
RayFK: A little touch of Quina Lillet
Flyingdelorion: *unknown
Mr_Bitterness: And then you give the frog the weapon
Earthenone: a while ago i got quina with the bonus sheet cloud, it turns out if you make a tapped and attacking token, you also make a tapped and attacking frog
BrowneePointz: well James the Critical Role and Dropout folks getting big into Magic the past year means that GenCon event might be even bigger
OldUncleDan: I am almost done watching Kathleen's FF-X stream VOD (Kathleen Saves the World). It feels like she averages roughly two instances of crapping on FF-X2 per hour.
Mr_Bitterness: And if you're playing Chrono Trigger, that Frog becomes the real chosen hero
GredGredmansson: legendary creature frog knight
TehAmelie: X2 is sure not everyone's cup of tea
Snowwraith: Also duplicates any other effects I think. Like flashback Search for the Esper will make a frog with 2 +1/+1s
RayFK: Not sold on the gigas
GredGredmansson: the elder maybe?
BrowneePointz: I just love that koo ee Nah’s full name is a play on “eat/don’t eat”
OldUncleDan: @TehAmelie I'm actually thinking about playing it after I'm done with her playthrough.
GredGredmansson: the scouts do synergize with Vaan but that might be a stretch
EvilBadman: What up Fenrir
TristalMTG: Pretty late Fenrir
Mr_Bitterness: How is Red Mage's Rapier in this style of deck?
TehAmelie: i probably should as it came free with X
OldUncleDan: BTW: Graham's playthrough of FF-12 feels like a love letter. He really enjoyed it.
OldUncleDan: Same with 7.
pleonasticTautology: I'm genuinely excited to play 12 in my "going through all of them"
Diabore: Wasnt that month of FF great? Now back to FF
lZodsl: Absolute shame how few cards it got in the set
BrowneePointz: Zodiac remaster did wonders for grinding off some of the hard edges of 12
pleonasticTautology: @BrowneePointz yeah, i have that on my switch, along with the pixel perfect remasters of 1-6
Diabore: i dont think we want ramuh
BlueChloroplast: Love how cute the Lolorits are
GredGredmansson: ramuh i don't think works
pleonasticTautology: hot take: i think diamond weapon should've had devoid
lZodsl: Was hoping to at least see Belias. But we got a Zodiark (which inspired my name) so can't complain
GredGredmansson: i don't think it's even good in the deck it's supposed to be in
RayFK: Red mage
GredGredmansson: (ramuh that is)
vetchable: i have had this question for awhile. when they do paper drafts or PPRs, do the players get to keep the cards? or are the cards added to the Moonbase collection?
RayFK: not doing a bunch
OldUncleDan: My AuADHD sometimes makes it real hard for me get very far in a JRPG, so I have really appreciated the LRR Final Fantasy playthroughs.
RayFK: Grimoire methinks
Gekyouryuu: Silly idea: replicate Graham's ff12 run by making a RW equipment deck and giving Ashe a samurai katana
TristalMTG: I don't love Bard's Bow either
GredGredmansson: clash of the eikons, how much does that do
RayFK: Fair, just run a 41
EvilBadman:
Cut two lands 
TristalMTG: Didn't we have a Town Greeter?
Earthenone: cut a land, we have goobus. fenrin and landcyclers?
Snowwraith: Bard's bow is basically just a 3/3 reach creature until super late.
TehAmelie: just like how bard used to be the most exclusive prestige class in D&D eh
TristalMTG: Diamodn Weapon costing 8 is gonna be rough
kumatsu: I guess it's a good thing we didn't go deep on noncreature spells against this opponent
Sorator13: yeah, they did good work with the sounds
pleonasticTautology: what's the w/b guild called again? i forgor
GredGredmansson: orzhov
pleonasticTautology: thank you gred
Sorator13: white black is Orzhov, white blue is Azorius
GredGredmansson: you are welcome
pleonasticTautology: yeah, i remembered wu is azorius
GredGredmansson: not sure what name to use right now for you but you are still welcme
Sorator13: (I always forget which color "B" means if I don't, like, stop to think about it)
Diabore: play keyword big
pleonasticTautology: tautology works always
GredGredmansson: good to know
pleonasticTautology: but yeah, chocobant relies heavily on azorius birbs
Diabore: and lifelink
Sorator13: well, we can... almost keep up with their lifelink?
Sorator13: *woof*
GredGredmansson: it makes you feel good
Justherefortherewards: vaynes treachery is a -2/-2!
FlargBlarg: good old 4th removal
Earthenone: its good with the blue rare that draws when you scry
GapFiller: cant remember is LRRMtG rolling straight into the Sealed League final or will there be an offline break between streams
Justherefortherewards:
good dog 
Marvoleath:
Sorator13: @GapFiller Stream will go offline for just a moment
EvilBadman: @gapfiller There will be a gap
BrowneePointz: I can’t wait for Graham to show up to the EoE PreRelease in a Mass Effect or Destiny Hoodie for the Lols
Diabore: moogle
Spades_Slicc: WotC should errata all dogs and wolves to canids
Diabore: anima also super killing us too
GredGredmansson: oooof
Justherefortherewards: you can pump ochu though
Justherefortherewards: oh nvm LMAO
Gekyouryuu: @spades_slicc would they erata foxes, too?
vetchable: oof
vetchable: and what about jackals?
Sorator13: hi beej! bye g!
Justherefortherewards:
welcome to the format, James
GredGredmansson: oh whoops fight spell
vetchable: my fault, i brought my unluckiness
Sorator13: Hey, at least we got them down to 30
Sorator13: 29, even!
GredGredmansson: oh this isn't bo3 anymore?
vetchable: maybe they really should have cut the lands
GredGredmansson: they do
Spades_Slicc: @Gekyouryuu They should
BrowneePointz: they do cuz of Khenra I believe
pleonasticTautology: yeah, James is there
Marvoleath: there is even a coyote
BrowneePointz: unless Khenra are still dog
ChroniclerC:
James is known for his land luck.
pleonasticTautology:
it's a zweihander, graham
Sorator13: have you ever just shoved four words together?
pleonasticTautology:
yeah
TehAmelie: optic drugs attack waffles?
pleonasticTautology: ff14 dark knights use zweihanders
vetchable: whats the twitch command to summon the bot to tell me what a card is/does
Iperithon: Samurai Pizza Frog!
pleonasticTautology: @vetchable !card
Marvoleath: @vetchable !card cardname
vetchable: !card Summoner's Grimoire
LRRbot: Summoner's Grimoire [3G] | Artifact — Equipment | Job select / Equipped creature is a Shaman in addition to its other types and has "Whenever this creature attacks, you may put a creature card from your hand onto the battlefield. If that card is an enchantment card, it enters tapped and attacking." / Abraxas — Equip {3}
vetchable: thanks guys
GredGredmansson:
BrowneePointz: koo ee nah is doing work!
Sorator13: those black mages murdered a frog!
Sorator13: fortunately, not the sapient one
ChroniclerC: flunge
pleonasticTautology: @Sorator13 the black mages are sapient!!!
GredGredmansson: they were dead on board yeah
drewm1022: They were ded.
bytecaster: Nice, I came in for the large flunge! Love to see it!
Sorator13: @pleonasticTautology ...not anymore, they aren't
pleonasticTautology: ;~;
drewm1022: They block 5/6 and 6/6 and take 4, 4, 4, 3
Iperithon: Days since Game won by 'over run' = 0
TehAmelie: maybe i forgot about FF9 but aren't the black mages automatons at first?
BrowneePointz: nope
TehAmelie: automata
caffinatedconstellations: pretty dece hand for sure
BrowneePointz: they were constructs
GredGredmansson: sort of but not like mechanical ones
BrowneePointz: but not “automatons”
pleonasticTautology: *inhales*
GredGredmansson: that's why Vivi is only typed as Wizard and nothing else
Justherefortherewards: I've heard strong rumors of a FF9 remaster/remake and I am into it ONLY because I love the Vivi card so much
pleonasticTautology: all the monsters on the mist continent are made from the mist
pleonasticTautology: black mages use concentrated mist and other mechanisms to make eggs that hatch into black mages
BrowneePointz: honestly I think ff9 is the best in the franchise taken as a whole passage
BrowneePointz: package*
pleonasticTautology: YEAH
pleonasticTautology: it's a 25th anniversary vinyl
BrowneePointz: and a prequel art book
pleonasticTautology: also graham did you know i'm friends with someone who localized ff9
Anonymousless: I would love a proper ff9 remaster
Justherefortherewards: oooh okay maybe the remake rumors were just wishful thinking because of new artwork and such
OldUncleDan: I forget. How good was Thunder Junction limited?
DMGlol: too bomby imo
KaiTerranova: FF9 released on my birthday so yay
FlargBlarg: i thought it was *really* bomb heavy
BrowneePointz: it was okay but the removal was stupid
silent_sol: the bonus sheet was messed up too
Cyberegg: *art
GredGredmansson: i only did a few drafts but i enjoyed it, i had a really fun deck where i made a pile of mercenaries
KaiTerranova: Thunder Junction was very removal heavy because of crimes
vetchable: there were 2 bonus sheets right?
BrowneePointz: the bombs we’re gross and the removal was just as gross
FlargBlarg: but I did play against Oko on like my second draft
BrowneePointz: were*
OldUncleDan: Eh... I'll save my coins/gems and just run some Brawl.
RealGamerCow: sets are around for like 6 weeks now, so it's hard to get a true read
GredGredmansson: the canceled Aftermath 2
drewm1022: LIke, SURPRISE MANA DRAIN
silent_sol: Sometimes your opponent could get Cruel Ultimatum or Mana drain
BrowneePointz: it was Haymakers the Set
Justherefortherewards: the bonus sheet is one of the weirdest things to me coming back to magic after a few years
Ukon_Cairns: a crime in every pack sounds wild
pleonasticTautology: my first experience with a bonus sheet was strixhaven
pleonasticTautology: mystical archive is so fun
Voidhawk42: Both Thunder Junction and karlov Manor should have involved New Cappena rather than Ravnica. If one of the capenna demon-run families was expanding into Thunder Junction it would have made more sense and they could have been evil railroad barons
vetchable: i misread that card as gobagool
BrowneePointz: it’s okay, the Planeswalker’s Guide for EoE made mention of a Fomori-Eldrazi War that predates most known recorded information and that has me vibrating out of my seat
drewm1022: Oh yeah. EoE has me hpyed.
FlargBlarg: I thought you were going to say "set on fire" and I was like "harsh"
pleonasticTautology: i think i'm going to do an EoE prerelease
BrowneePointz: the worldbuilding for EoE is so COOOOOOL @drewm1022
pleonasticTautology: i'll have to get a commbadge before then...
vetchable: why do i have access to a mod logs button?
caffinatedconstellations: im incredibly excited to see some space fantasy from mtg, gonna be going to my lgs for prerelease for that forsure
Mr_Bitterness: @Voidhawk42 Similar, I was interested in TJ as "planes clashing for new territory" design space, but instead we got cowboys just 'cause.
Ukon_Cairns: big score style mini set "bonus sheet" could be a decent way to get block style story telling over time better than current i feel.
Anonymousless: I have not been keeping up with magic other than the FF set, so every time I see EoE my brain immediately goes to End of Evangelion
BrowneePointz: the story has been very good
pleonasticTautology: @Anonymousless it all returns to nothing
BrowneePointz: and self contained
Marvoleath: It's silly that one of the EoE sidestories was far better contained horror than any Duskmourn stuff
pleonasticTautology: i just realized the opponent's mascot is the chocobo's dungeon-lookin' chocobo
pleonasticTautology: and i want to squish him
Diabore: yeah G, i want my ears to bleed
BrowneePointz: yea! the cosmic horror EoE side story was perfect
Sorator13: the c word you're looking for is "considerate", G
vetchable: how much does that extra turn card costs
GredGredmansson: and you need 8 cards in the green
GredGredmansson: graveyard
thetrashman_sc: i did that once it was sick
pleonasticTautology: 🔪
Ukon_Cairns: they did a decent job at making the cards care about the game number if they care about a number
caffinatedconstellations: the tonberry's comin to shank ya
Mr_Bitterness: @Marvoleath That's down to personal taste. I find Duskmourn worse just because the demon is specifically extracting as much fear as possible and has total control. Cosmic horror isn't personal.
Ukon_Cairns: cloud n tifa looking for 7, ultimecia looking for 8, emet selch looking for 14.
caffinatedconstellations: it enjoys kicking
FlargBlarg: they just flood?
FlargBlarg: guess not
Marvoleath: @Mr_Bitterness That story was quite personal imo, duskmourn stories didnt hit that hard for me, they were more adventury. Overall Duskmourn did have great potential though
caffinatedconstellations: i should replay ff4... its been a while
GredGredmansson: they can trigger Cecil though
caffinatedconstellations: maybe after i finish my 12 playthrough
Mr_Bitterness: @Marvoleath Duskmourn was split between the main story (very adventury) and the side stuff (all horror).
Bruceski: Been playing toouch Arena myself, I keep poking cards to check them.
Bruceski: *too much
GredGredmansson: right forgot the menace
Iperithon: !card Cecil, Dark Knight
LRRbot: Cecil, Dark Knight [B] (back: Cecil, Redeemed Paladin) | Legendary Creature — Human Knight [2/3] | Deathtouch / Darkness — Whenever Cecil deals damage, you lose that much life. Then if your life total is less than or equal to half your starting life total, untap Cecil and transform it.
DadlyPuns: Cant yoy move the grimoire to something? I thought it was 3 to equip
Marvoleath: @Mr_Bitterness fair enough, might be recency bias on my end, either way the Kav / artifact story is a great piece of horror, which I did not expect from 'space opera' set
vetchable: if you equip cecil with the equipment that makes the creature a pinger, she flips!
Sorator13: and then dogearing it!
Marvoleath: Did they eat it though?
Aceviru: We call them Near Mint
BlueChloroplast: Naw that was seanan macguirire
GredGredmansson: hi vaan
Sorator13: !card fatal push
LRRbot: Fatal Push [B] | Instant | Destroy target creature if it has mana value 2 or less. / Revolt — Destroy that creature if it has mana value 4 or less instead if a permanent left the battlefield under your control this turn.
GredGredmansson: right battle at the big bridge is a fatal push
Ukon_Cairns: clumsy little samurai summoner, just dropping a diamond weapon right into play
BrowneePointz: I believe the correct exclamation to cheating in Diamond Weapon is “Guten Tag!” said with gusto
pleonasticTautology: time for nap, catch you all later
GredGredmansson: on the bonus sheet
GredGredmansson: cya
Diabore: they must really want the top of the deck
tsp397: Secret reach claims another victim
GredGredmansson: except now they can't cast it
GredGredmansson: public reach
caffinatedconstellations: yeah its huge
silent_sol: maybe he wanted to case something from the whale
caffinatedconstellations: hard to miss
BusTed: 🤔
Earthenone: maybe they had a -X-X spell to "finish it off" but it took no damage secretly
EvilBadman: Op might had the kill creature that took damage dude?
vetchable: The People's Reach
Bruceski: It's a Weapon. Reach is kinda implied
Sorator13: Halo Reach
Earthenone: or the 3/2 yeah
Spades_Slicc: James, you are of course assuming magic players are willing to look at their cards or their opponent's cards
GredGredmansson: tramampoline
Ukon_Cairns: just because its a giant glowing ballista doesnt mean its not secret reach
Justherefortherewards: do you not just have lethal anyway
caffinatedconstellations: its the multi zidaine pack all over again
Marvoleath: !findquote flample
LRRbot: Could not find any matching quotes.
GredGredmansson: tample still
FlargBlarg: diamond weapon trample gets you there
GredGredmansson: trample*
EOstby: Math is for blockers, after all.
Ktolos: you would also leave cecil alive so they would take an extra 2 damage if cecil blocks
Sorator13: @EOstby Math is also for implied blockers
Ukon_Cairns: green numbers are very big, it takes a good while to properly count it all
Justherefortherewards: oh does a fight spell not mean combat damage? that interaction does not come up enough for me to know
vetchable: mike wazowski
Sorator13: @Justherefortherewards Nope, fight spells are not combat damage
GredGredmansson: @Justherefortherewards damage dealt outside of combat is not combat damage
ShaneLeeAtk: Bolt the Bird
Sorator13: combat damage is *just* damage dealt as part of the combat damage step
GredGredmansson: only the damage done at the start of the combat damage step is combat damage
Justherefortherewards:
well when you put it that way .. 
Sorator13: tautology club is tautology club! combat damage is combat damage!
NerdNerfer: So, being new to arena, I am curious about something. I have had a few games where the other player concedes after I draw the first card. any idea what that’s about, why concede that fast.
Ukon_Cairns: if we dont topdeck the land surely we topdeck a 4drop or cheaper
NoxStryx: Never didn't have it
Ukon_Cairns: #NeverDidntHaveIt
NerdNerfer: Standard
GredGredmansson: @NerdNerfer what are you playing, and what format
Sorator13: If there's a long wait, that may be someone timing out
Voidhawk42: @NerdNerfer Somestimes I start a game, and then realise I need to go to the toilet
NerdNerfer: No cards were played, after the mulligans
Justherefortherewards: It really does just happen sometime, someone immediately scooping before any cards are played
FlargBlarg: thye just had an awful mull?
BrowneePointz: if it’s best of one they didn’t like their hand
NerdNerfer: I draw a single card and concede. lol
Thefluffiestguineapig: @NerdNerfer I've had that happen too
Justherefortherewards: Maybe someone's mom just called them down for dinner
bytecaster: Maybe something came up
BrowneePointz: and are shipping to a new game
Brozard: Maybe a timeout issue?
drewm1022: Is your name Patrick?
Flyingdelorion: Do they play ranked or play?
Toadkillerfrog: ranked or casual?
NoxStryx: I always assumed that was a weird player disconnect
OldUncleDan: Confession: I will sometimes concede if I see a planeswalker commander in Brawl. But that's my own issue.
Sorator13: everyone forgets train!
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Brozard When I have had that happen it's normally not the same as the mulligan timeout thing
Bruceski: Some people chain-scoop until they draw the nuts, depending on the format consequences.
drewm1022: I autoconcede to Tergrid in Brawl, ngl.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Bruceski WHAT, that's so rude to everyone else
Bruceski: I see a lot of knee-jeek concedes in Starter for example
Brozard: Every 100 Likes increases this train by 1 foot
Bruceski: Yeah.
GredGredmansson: trade?
GredGredmansson: they'd just pump it twice no?
vetchable: they can activate train multiple times
Sorator13: @Brozard the foot is taken from one of the people who gave a like
GredGredmansson: thats not once per turn
NerdNerfer: Thanks for the responses. Just curious.
UtilityPunk:
I autoconcede to alchemy cards in Brawl. Sometimes you're just playing 1v1 for fun 
drewm1022: Exit, stage left even.
GredGredmansson: reno and rude trying to share a single black mage's rod
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vetchable: speaking of monster trains, we have a ghost train
Mr_Horrible: damn, I love when my streamer wins
GredGredmansson: I think they could have saved it if they sacced both weapons, killing the 8/7 and chumping the other two creatures
GredGredmansson: but a bit late for that
BusTed:
NerdNerfer: GG
BusTed:
Justherefortherewards: o r b
drewm1022:
I actually looked at your shoulder before I made the stage left joke.
BrowneePointz: I can’t wait for Graham to kill people with space overrun. No idea if we are getting a space overrun, I just wanted to say the words space overrun.
Mr_Horrible: I'm too brain-poisoned, when James said "it's not even giving trample" I interpreted that like serving
vetchable: when i'm done ponderin my orb I start orbitin my pond
Sorator13: @BrowneePointz is space overrun like buffer overflow?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @NerdNerfer For me playing ranked alchemy it depends TBH. Some people are clearly trying to get their perfect seven to crush people and will snap concede if they don't get that. Which makes me frustrated
Thefluffiestguineapig: Seachats welcome
Thefluffiestguineapig: I can't wait for Graham to try to figure out the torturous lore path for space overrun
vetchable: space overfloat
Justherefortherewards: It feels weird that we're already close to preview season for EoE, we just got this set
BrowneePointz: no Specoverrun was my father
NerdNerfer: @Thefluffiestguineapig that makes sense. trying to pull the opening hand.
drewm1022: It's FRANKENSCHTOON.
Sorator13: we have dog, frog dog, and big dog
BrowneePointz: Bolt the Boi
Justherefortherewards: Poor TTC, won't even have time to talk about everything before the new thing drops
Thefluffiestguineapig: In constructed i will sometimes use removal magnet one to pull it so I can get it out of their hand for removal magnet 2 that I care about more to live
GredGredmansson: oh no vincent
SolarBlitz1: FF close to a month?
GredGredmansson: kill on sight
Bruceski: If there is a space overrun and they call it something like Claustrophobia I'll know someone there has the same sense of humor as I do.
BrowneePointz: FF had a longer than normal preview season
BrowneePointz: @bruceski claustrophobia is a sleep aura from Og instead
BrowneePointz: innistrad*
Snowwraith: Vincent needs to die ASAP.
thetrashman_sc: vincent must die
vetchable: I love that with EoE we're getting another set that takes place in the real world
Sorator13: @vetchable "another"?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also, fun fact from alchemy UB faerie monster over here: you can completely turn off someone's summons with flashed in enchantment auras on their summon creatures
BrowneePointz: EoE isn’t in the real world?
vetchable: @Sorator13 yeah
GredGredmansson: @vetchable does EoE take place in the real world? I'm behind on the story
Spades_Slicc: exile the beast
BrowneePointz: no it doesn’t @gredgredmansson
vetchable: @BrowneePointz you've never been to space, you dont know that for a fact
drewm1022: I mean. Tezzeret is there.
GredGredmansson: also I'm not sure if Arabian Nights counts as the "real world" still
Snowwraith: And the beast side has trample & lifelink and keeps the counters. So it can be big and just gain loads of life.
drewm1022: For differing values of "real world".
Thefluffiestguineapig: If there is magic and Etherium I don't think it can be our Earth
BrowneePointz: Arabian Nights isn’t real world because Taysir is not a real person
vetchable: earth, no. when i said real world i meant our universe
Sorator13: obviously, the first "real world" set was Unfinity
vetchable: my bad, i worded wrong
Justherefortherewards: EoE is also very explicitly in the magic multiverse
Thefluffiestguineapig: @vetchable I don't think so, no
GredGredmansson: @Justherefortherewards well i thought it was very explicitly outside of it, surrounding it even
BrowneePointz: @gredgredmansson all of the multiverse is contained within the flesh of an orange, the Edge is the Peel around it
drewm1022: I think they were saying "real world" as "Magic contiunuum"
GredGredmansson: but that doesn't make it "real"
Justherefortherewards:
@GredGredmansson okay yes, but explicitly related to it, I guess?
GredGredmansson: @drewm1022 "Unreality? A fictional world?"
drewm1022:
As opposed to this ff bullshit.
UtilityPunk:
Everything has a Phoenix Down in FF Standard 
BrowneePointz: hey drew that’s needlessly rude
Thefluffiestguineapig: And now we get into "semantics for Vorthoses: the LRRMtG conundrum"
Sorator13: good dog casts frog
Thefluffiestguineapig: Which I am completely here for
drewm1022: I know. I am rather needlessly rude about this set. My bad.
GredGredmansson: "arex" whoever that is
Thefluffiestguineapig: @drewm1022 No, you aren't being needlessly rude at all, you are allowed to have a preference for original in world stuff
UtilityPunk: English/Japanese streamer who plays Pokemon and apparently now the horesgirl racing game
vetchable: did not mean to start a philosophical debate, my bad guys
singinnonsense:
Amentur:
They are fun
drewm1022: *** as opposed to this final fantasy "reality"
Sorator13: inside you are two chocobos. one of them is screaming. please feed it.
Dog_of_Myth:
Thefluffiestguineapig: @vetchable You are genuinely fine, this is the chat that isn't mad about that
Spades_Slicc: I've heard people say that this set has a lot of removal in it but I haven't been able to put together a draft deck with more than 3 pieces of removal
TehAmelie: riddle: what did the chocobo say when it laid a square egg?
BrowneePointz: but for chats sake, they are setting up The Edge as a region of reality where they can tell Sci Fi stories and sets. EoE as a set is focusing squarely on one Solar System(the Sothera system)
Sorator13: @TehAmelie enix?
thmanwithnoname: ouch?
Earthenone: qweh?
Ukon_Cairns: the greatest treasure of all. frog.
Spades_Slicc: @TehAmelie lally ho
drewm1022:
I enjoy the conversation all.
Earthenone: hold diamon for ultima?
itira:
@TehAmelie
Amentur:
@TehAmelie 
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Lauradical: Can also pump the ochu
BrowneePointz: her. Koo ee nah is a lady(or called one at least)
bosqueofpines: can pump the ochu too
Ukon_Cairns: growing our creatures grow our other creatures. wild.
comrade_cards: The art on the bonus sheet creatures makes it really hard to see power/toughness
Earthenone: s/he is the pronouns used in the ps1 game, if that helps, though they do breifly marry vivi
silent_sol: oh I know that one
BrowneePointz: Donald Duckin’ the Andes!? scandalous!
Sorator13: @comrade_cards yeah, I don't love the full art treatments for that reason
silent_sol: I know this story, I'm a big fan
control_rig: There you go G
Natural_Ones_Only: oh is this like the animal that has cubic poops?
GredGredmansson: quack
Thefluffiestguineapig: Is this like the Marsupial with square poops?
UtilityPunk: Clairvoyant writer
Sorator13: Markedly easier to find than the mythical Squall comic
silent_sol: There was a sequel, the first by carl barks didnt feature scrooge, the sequel by don rosa did feature him
control_rig: Lali Oh No
vetchable: did the cube eggs contain square yolks?
silent_sol: On of the plot point was when thay return to the city, everyone was dressed as Donald Duck bc he was the first fasion influence in millenia
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Mindfire13: Hope you get to 6-2 for maximum value for the draft
TheDevil_Risen: hehe the FF video
TheDevil_Risen:
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tsp397: I am looking forward to learning about Hildibrand Manderville
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Mindfire13: So what I'm hearing is that it'll be a great second monitor video
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Iperithon: You ever just kick a sahagin?
TheDevil_Risen: so woo! mystery boostie draft
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BrowneePointz: you mean Quina’n it?
BrowneePointz: *finger guns*
solarsheeptoken: graham cant watch ur compile stream after what adam said
Thefluffiestguineapig: Are you all going to come back to doing crack a packs or are they only shorts of hands now?
Sorator13: oh, that's a good sidequest
vetchable: do you guys still do the [set] nicknames thing? i feel like i havent seen it for awhile
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yes, apologies, I took a midterm away
GredGredmansson: oh hi bahamut
Thefluffiestguineapig: *today
control_rig: Gross
thetrashman_sc: oh my
Earthenone: yuna avatar with bahamut in the bin, i am experiancing fear
Thefluffiestguineapig: Have you changed the format of crack a packs so they are only shorts of hands rather than full videos of you +/- a guest?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yes
vetchable: well, that would explain why i havent seen the [set] nicknames in a long time
GredGredmansson: i think the use of "hands" was confusing, you are talking about literal human hands
TheDevil_Risen:
talking about Crapshots, Pillow talk was Inspired 
BrowneePointz: I do miss the set nicknames but like they’ve said the format was getting stale and wasn’t *doing* much @vetchable
vetchable: that makes sense
gualdhar: what *is* Camp Cardboard? I keep hearing hints but I'm not sure if you've said what it is
Thefluffiestguineapig: Ah, makes sense, thanks!
GredGredmansson: we still make nicknames ourselves sometimes on the LRR discord
Thefluffiestguineapig: @gualdhar It was a bunch of guests who came and filmed a bunch of stuff
KaleidoscopeMind: but did you build a cardboard fort
lightfut: It looked like more fun than any camp I've had
SolarBlitz1: Oh jeeze
bytecaster: That is a lot of commander
itira: thats a lot of magic
Diabore: speaking of spikes just put out the graham kathleen game today
BrowneePointz: like the sonic one two days ago
Iperithon: Been seeing those
Dog_of_Myth: Spike Feeders went up today
Iperithon: was pretty neat
Sorator13: the ones that involved LRRsfolk get posted in the LRR discord videos channel, too
Diabore: second, cedh was first
SolarBlitz1: Saw the Sonic Commander one on EDHJ earlier
GredGredmansson: @BrowneePointz right the one that accidentally revealed a bonus card
Earthenone: i vaugely remember seeing a sprite of wheeler in a non lrr video thumbnail and being confused
TheDevil_Risen: yeah cedh was great
Voidhawk42: The Sonic game with ED-Hijinks was hilarious
Ukon_Cairns: yes, many of channel friends playing at the moonbase
WiJohn: There were some TTCs that seemed to be from camp cardboard
GredGredmansson: i thought that was strange but ultimately didn't think much of it
KaleidoscopeMind: that's a lot of border hopping (i assume)
Thefluffiestguineapig: Did Beej get involved in that just to make a soundboard thing for "Sonic's 30th Anniversary"?
GredGredmansson: gosh if they had made any more Sonic cards we could have had one of the most unhinged typelines ever
TheDevil_Risen:
more fodder for the 30th anniversary bit
Sorator13: !card choco-comet
LRRbot: Choco-Comet [XRR] | Sorcery | Choco-Comet deals X damage to any target. / Create a 2/2 green Bird creature token with "Whenever a land you control enters, this token gets +1/+0 until end of turn."
GredGredmansson: Legendary Creature - Lizard Ninja Detective
Earthenone: we probobly kill sahauan to not die to a cmc 4 spell?
Aarek: @Earthenone Yeah I was confused too when I first saw it, even more confused when I clicked it and saw the moonbase set
Ukon_Cairns: +2 blockers -1 attacker. not bad.
GredGredmansson: that's it!
Thefluffiestguineapig: "Proliferate the Moonbase Influence Token"
bytecaster: Oh no, they are cooking
Aarek: not a bad confusion at all, just took a second to figure out what was going on
vetchable: If you have Beheld a LoadingReadyRun, venture into the Moonbase
Diabore: the problem is next turn
Thefluffiestguineapig: @vetchable If you have "Ready to Run" active for one of your commanders, venture into the Moonbase to begin your adventure
TheDevil_Risen:
my new fav Dark Ritual
jaimeblacken: bahaaamut
TheDevil_Risen: yeah i have the portal frame one and the 40k one, but was lucky enough to get the FF one
Sorator13: larryzaur "bahamut!" .jpg
Gekyouryuu:
you need a summoner's grimoire
Spades_Slicc: bahamut is a good reanimation target
SolarBlitz1: Been building my Kuja deck, digging up the strixhaven stuff really has been reminding me how good they started off as
jaimeblacken: or white with a bunch of auracites
XavusGaming: green, or black for Evil Reawakened
Snowwraith: It kinda wins the game. There's multiple ways to reanimate that too.
Sorator13: also, it's a flying 9/9
Earthenone: fenrir time?
Mr_Horrible: it ain't called "normal flare"
Gekyouryuu: I'm currently 3-0 with my RG draft deck. I first picked Tifa and still haven't seen her yet
GredGredmansson: tifa + shoopuf is a gross combo
Snowwraith: I've won a game with Bahamut before but it was by putting Bahamut in the Regalia.
Diabore: i will donate 50 dollars in bits if an op sticks around to bahamuts ultimate
Earthenone:
rydia can reanimate our bahamut
Mindfire13: Rydia!
GredGredmansson: speaking of stuff gross with Tifa
GredGredmansson: oh wait nm
Diabore: what about chalk-obo
TheDevil_Risen: awww poor Graham
GredGredmansson: its like "The Caribbean Islands" vs. "Pirates of the Caribbean"
KaleidoscopeMind: it's pronounced kweh
Earthenone: sandworm also combos with tifa well
Mr_Bitterness: When I was a kid, I called them Chalk-a-bos
vetchable: how many rares is too many rares?
BrowneePointz: Who let the Gods out by the Baha-Mut
kumatsu: green's definitely getting cut, it feels like
Sorator13: Combat Tutorial is excellent
Earthenone: prompto as an early drop that might generate treasure for bahamut
GredGredmansson: i like the prompto
TheDevil_Risen: prompto ramps
Sorator13: Prompto is good for bahamut ramp, true
Diabore: not atm but
kumatsu: or there were just some empty packs
Sorator13: !card item shop
LRRbot: Item Shopkeep [1R] | Creature — Human Citizen [2/2] | Whenever you attack, target attacking equipped creature gains menace until end of turn.
Snowwraith: Airship crash has so many targets in this set. And can be cycled if all else fails.
Sorator13: I've seen folks do some gross stuff in blue-red with Shatotto
GredGredmansson: i won my prerelease with orzhov
Diabore: shanttoto is real
GredGredmansson:
TheDevil_Risen: WOW
Dog_of_Myth:
Sorator13:
Lauradical: Prompto is a lot better once you notice all the modal spells cost 4 for the middle option and a lot of the flashback costs trigger him too
Earthenone: !locana gaston
afterlanterns: lol
GredGredmansson: i choose to believe F Lord is actually Bolas
Sorator13: TopDecksLikeGaston is an incredible name
Earthenone: !lorcana gaston
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Foxmar320: Don't rush the faplord
BrowneePointz: but for real though Graham if you have Destiny or Mass Effect drip you should totally wear it to the PPR for “ze luls”
BusTed: no one top decks like gaston
TheDevil_Risen: WOOO!
TheDevil_Risen: Cam v Nelly
EvilBadman: Fap_lord is gonna love Edge (of Eternity)
BusTed: winner take all
silent_sol: what the prize?
GredGredmansson: ok i can't stick around now but best of luck in the draft
GreatGodOm: Shantoto is great with the fling effect. I've domed opponents for 10+ damage with that combo.
Spades_Slicc: best of pi
Earthenone: best of X until james goes home
Spades_Slicc: best of phi
TheDevil_Risen: the prize is Dilly Bars!
KaleidoscopeMind: best of 1 hour'
BrowneePointz: it’s cuz the border fades into the arena background on the other cards
Desdae: Sidequert Blitzball is great if it wheels
BrowneePointz: no no
BrowneePointz: they said sidequert
TheDevil_Risen: PuPu!
Gekyouryuu: Baron Rivalry (Deadly Dispute) if you pay the cost with a creature is "I was Sacc-ed by two men!"
Earthenone: 0 towns 1 pupu
BrowneePointz: just spread your pupu and fly to victory
Mindfire13: That card's name has more capital letters than lowercase
Voidhawk42: Random town?
Earthenone:
make sure to full control in that sequencew to get the wandering counter first
Spades_Slicc: Given how much removal my opponents point at my creatures when the blitzball equipment is on them i'd say it's probably good
RayFK: I wasn't gone that long, first draft went bad?
Gekyouryuu: not running Blitzball Shot?
RayFK: Oh dang, went fast
BrowneePointz: if we go for the kill with tifa and they kill her we can galuf the counters to someone else
Mindfire13: Clive
silent_sol: come on farseek
RayFK: Seifer is so good
Earthenone: sifer lets us cast wandering again
RayFK: OOOO Dog
Gekyouryuu: my pack 1 pick 1 in my draft was a choice between Seifer and Tifa
BrowneePointz: Seifer? my FAVORITE Yu gi oh god
RayFK: So is Seifer
RayFK: and Rydia
Gekyouryuu: @BrowneePointz Seifer the Executive Producer
TheDevil_Risen: bards bow if it wheels is good anti air tech
30teracyte: fenrir was in the same pack as tifa
Earthenone: we passed fenrir for tifa
Lauradical: Fenrir also counts for torgal's ability
raulghoulia: has he ever done the fusion dance with the villain of 7 to become Seifer Sephiroth?
RayFK: Also fun fact if Fenir is out when Torgal is out, double counters
BrowneePointz: so Jordan is ordering all the sonic lairs in foil right?
Mindfire13: Other Prompto? not many hits
BusTed: good doggos
Earthenone:
tripple counters if you wait until chapter 2 fenir before casting the tifa
jaimeblacken: i'd say wanderings but
BrowneePointz: thanks to Kathleen Graham whenever I see Gilgy the KGLW song starts playing in my head
RayFK: Me? Gongaga
RayFK: Gilgamesh
BrowneePointz: Gilgamesh
Gekyouryuu: silly idea: the movie poster for Gone Girl, but it's Zack and says Gone Gaga
kumatsu: please chat, his name is Greg
emilevitt:
me? gongaga!! 
seanmrwick: @Gekyouryuu hahaha
BrowneePointz: from Silver Cord
BrowneePointz: the really moody one in the back half
vetchable: isnt gilgamesh the evil human wizard guy from the smurfs?
Mindfire13: Cut Prompto? not many hits
BrowneePointz: that’s Gargamel
TheDevil_Risen:
hey hill gigas
Jepardil: Prompto has only one hit in the deck
caffinatedconstellations: almost
seanmrwick: Are you guys excited about the new Spiderman MTG crossover?
singinnonsense: I would argue Gilgamesh is more famous from the Epic/Myth then FF but that's just me
BrowneePointz: I was until the Arena fiasco announcement @seanmrwick
Mindfire13: Cut Gysahl Greens
seanmrwick: @BrowneePointz oh geez what happened?
Iperithon: !card Rydia, Summoner of mist
LRRbot: Rydia, Summoner of Mist [RG] | Legendary Creature — Human Shaman [1/2] | Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card. / Summon — {X}, {T}: Return target Saga card with mana value X from your graveyard to the battlefield with a finality counter on it. It gains haste until end of turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
jaimeblacken: don't you have zanarkand?
EvilBadman: ^
Earthenone: arena is going to have to make knock off spiders men for legal reasosn
BrowneePointz: @seanmrwick they don’t have digital rights to the marvel sets so all the marvel sets will be getting wholly different names/art on arena
Mr_Bitterness: Is Quina worth here?
BrowneePointz: starting with spidersman
jaimeblacken: tifa's seems a bit eh at 2
jaimeblacken: the pump i mean
Jorsh029: Holding priority on the final chapter of a summon for self destruct feels REAL good
seanmrwick: @BrowneePointz @BrowneePointz oh. Given I don't play on Arena that often I can understand the upset. Does the same apply for paper magic?
BrowneePointz: nope paper is same
Thefluffiestguineapig: Wait, the Marvel stuff isn't actually coming for real to arena?
BrowneePointz: so two sets of art and names for one set @seanmrwick
seanmrwick: @BrowneePointz hmm.....well I might skip the Spiderman set honestly
seanmrwick: @BrowneePointz well this is one of the sets I'll be happy to skip or "Swipe left"
Aarek: its probably layers or something
Gekyouryuu: oh, hey, I played them a couple games ago
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Snowwraith: It's the same if you had something that duplicates tokens on entry I imagine.
kumatsu: the Quina thing is because of how replacemenet effects work
Earthenone: turn 3 boosted sifher
Mindfire13: Classic Magic, R/G deck with big dragon as the top end
BrowneePointz: MY WOONDZ BOi!- Clive Finalfantasy
seanmrwick: Torgul is best boy
Lauradical: I think the short version is that they're both the creature made by the effect, but it feels unintuitive because you're inclined to think of them as the creature you were going to get and an extra
seanmrwick: so to the fine LRR folk, have you had one of those moments where you accidently misplace a card inside one box by putting it in a different box in your collection?
Spades_Slicc: @Lauradical like twins
seanmrwick: Because that's what happened when I misplaced my Aerith
Earthenone: i think we just call and smash with tifa
seanmrwick: @Earthenone yup!
Cptasparagus: I have to watch your stream on my tv and listen to it from my laptop for reasons, and they're out of sync. If you could delay the audio on your stream by like 20 seconds that would be great, thanks in advance!
Spades_Slicc: Get in the ESPer Shinju
Spades_Slicc: shinji even
jaimeblacken: pupu files
seanmrwick: so to clarify something on Tifa's ability, does the "Double Tifa's power" only apply until end of turn?
Spades_Slicc: No I think it's fine
emilevitt:
bytecaster: @seanmrwick yes
Sorator13: !card Tifa Lock
LRRbot: Tifa Lockhart [1G] | Legendary Creature — Human Monk [1/2] | Trample / Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, double Tifa Lockhart's power until end of turn.
Spades_Slicc: @seanmrwick yea
Sorator13: Yep, until end of turn
TheDevil_Risen: booo!
seanmrwick: @bytecaster ok, had to make sure because for some reason I was going to play that with a Doubling season, only to realize doubling season wouldn't necessarily work
Sorator13: oh no, PuPu crashed! quick, feed them elixirs!
Diabore: @Cptasparagus pro tip is to turn off low latency on the laptop because the tv app doesnt have low latency yet
BrowneePointz: it’s Hugs!
emilevitt: he's friendly!
emilevitt: trust!
emilevitt: peepoHappy
Earthenone: rydia is going to do a lot of heavy lifting
bytecaster: @seanmrwick If you wanna double her trigger, you want a landfall doubler, like that new chocobo
thetrashman_sc: hell of a hand
thetrashman_sc: lmao
seanmrwick: @bytecaster I think I have one that may work
seanmrwick: pffffft
Spades_Slicc: water you discardin?
BrowneePointz: so many coprothusiasts with set
Cptasparagus: @Diabore no the TV is just hot garbage lol
bytecaster: The mountain chocobo finds a mountain, so we are almost there
BusTed: chabocabo
Gekyouryuu: 4-0, still haven't seen Tifa show up in a game yet
Sorator13: your confused chocobo pronunciations prompted by the chocobo noise in the architect cat game still live in my head rent-free, btw Graham
Diabore: no black waltz attack there is odd
Sorator13: !card tifa's li
LRRbot: Tifa's Limit Break [G] | Instant | Tiered / • Somersault — {0} — Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn. / • Meteor Strikes — {2} — Double target creature's power and toughness until end of turn. / • Final Heaven — {6}{G} — Triple target creature's power and toughness until end of turn.
jaimeblacken: now you should double
Diabore: thats so good for us
Diabore: the 1/3
Spades_Slicc: kill the elder
Diabore: they may be mana piched
Earthenone: the 1/3 we want to deny RR
bytecaster: I love the animation for Tifas Limit break
bytecaster: That card has won me so many games
Earthenone: rat does
Diabore: the rat makes mana
Earthenone: if you kill it
Diabore: i like shoot sword
Spades_Slicc: I would've attacked first, maybe OP trades waltz or the hero
Jorsh029: Flashing back call seems good when you can swing with Tifa
Diabore: uh oh
Gekyouryuu: hero would just eat a bird
Diabore: oh my god its kain!
Jorsh029: Buh God, that's Kain's music!
bytecaster: Gladiolus is quite a draw
Spades_Slicc: Next turn you're podracing
Thefluffiestguineapig: Next turn beep beep
Gekyouryuu: do you need to do full control to make Gladiolus pump tifa before she doubles?
Diabore: op so dead
Sorator13: @Gekyouryuu Arena *should* prompt to choose how to order the triggers without that, I think
Diabore: tifa wouild be so big
Spades_Slicc: @Gekyouryuu depends on if you have arena order your triggers for you or if you do in manual
BusTed:
TheDevil_Risen:
TherapyforNarwhals: What's happening at 4:30?
GapFiller: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: LRRMTG (It's the grand final of our Final Fantasy Sealed League! Nelson vs. Cameron! FIGHT! Game: Magic: The Gathering) at Thu 04:30 PM PDT (31m from now).
seanmrwick: Huzzah, Lord Stark and Lord Turner
Diabore: @TherapyforNarwhals cam v nelly for sealed league championshi[
samu_btdp1985: What's happening?
Spades_Slicc: In the room where it happens?
OldUncleDan: I have noticed that when I peak behind curtains, I tend to see a window.
Diabore: have they played before?
Jorsh029:
I have enjoyed the sealed league so much
jaimeblacken: i'm very excited to see cam's deck since we never saw it play
Thefluffiestguineapig: The sealed league has been so fun
seanmrwick: oh I'm excited for this league
Thefluffiestguineapig: Didn't he do black wizard removal?
jaimeblacken: ah, edge us you say
TheDevil_Risen: Sealed league has been great
TimIAm:
No edging league? 
Spades_Slicc:
LRR isn't into edging?
Travilogue: Wasn't that one episode of Seinfeld about an edging league?
Foxmar320: How about for Fate?
Jorsh029:
The sealed league made me hold off on opening the Ixalan boxes I won I while back to host a sealed event with friends this Saturday, 7 set boosters each of Lost Caverns, and I'm unreasonably hyped 
Diabore: it would be 4/4
jaimeblacken: block the garden
NornsFelidar: edge responsibly
Thefluffiestguineapig: Oh this guy is annoying in alchemy
goombalax: this is a free attack anyway
Diabore: its 3 or more
Diabore: iirc
Diabore: !card youre not alone
LRRbot: You're Not Alone [W] | Instant | Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn. If you control three or more creatures, it gets +4/+4 until end of turn instead.
Diabore: yeah 3 or more
Spades_Slicc:
PuPu Self-Destruct
Earthenone:
TheDevil_Risen: FIRE THE DOGGO CANNON!
Diabore: load angelo into the cannon
Sorator13: Angelo! Cannon!
shortieXV: Angelo is a good girl
Chronomagistrate: And there was much rejoicing
Diabore: so seifer attack is great
Earthenone: swing seifher try for a double wander
silent_sol: I've seen the animation for angelo cannon and it sure was something
Earthenone: to get back in the mana game
jaimeblacken: NOW
Diabore: POG
OldUncleDan: Seifer NO SEIFING!!!!!
Sorator13: This is so gross
Sorator13: Well done
Diabore: we wanna cast zanarkand
Spades_Slicc: makes pupu a 1/4
Jorsh029: It do
Earthenone: do we have any kicks to bring zanarkand back?
TheDevil_Risen: 1/5
ChrisPjuegos: nah you will plus you can draw from blitz ball too right?
OldUncleDan: Prishe's Wanderings is a surprisingly sneakily good combat trick.
TheDevil_Risen: yeah
jaimeblacken: you can cash in the blitz
Earthenone: yup
Earthenone: so we can dig for lands
shortieXV: seems deece
TheDevil_Risen: well now you know
Dog_of_Myth: Well, James did leave....
Sorator13: well, James did leave the room
TherapyforNarwhals: Insert james left the room joke
Sorator13: @Dog_of_Myth same hat!
Spades_Slicc: No James No Land
Sorator13: agh, okay, too easy to same hat that eh?
Earthenone: we could murder the dog out of spite i guess
Diabore: rip angelo
Spades_Slicc: Does the dog die? let's find out
DaniellNaruta: I do wonder if Rydia had a lower cost in playtesting - built in discard for your saga, then people said - we can't let them reanimate knights of the round for cheap
Dog_of_Myth: hahaha
TheDevil_Risen: thanks arena shufler!
Diabore: fat choco pass?
Gekyouryuu: ok, absolutely BUS my opponent just now. playing U/W and ALL they did was bounce or freeze any creatures I played, then play Weapons Vendor and Aetir and Priwen and "free" equip it to kill me
RangerAlpha7: you've committed the classic blunder, not specifying the desired type of land
Diabore: wither that or fat choco
jaimeblacken: and play the land
silent_sol: can we thunder go in, recast thunder?
Gekyouryuu: I hope they stall out and lose every single game for the rest of that draft run
Gekyouryuu: >:|
Earthenone:
see if we searched zanarkand instead of a land we would have drawn an untaped on by default
Iperithon: !card self-destruct
LRRbot: Self-Destruct [1R] | Instant | Target creature you control deals X damage to any other target and X damage to itself, where X is its power.
Diabore:
we draw it off rydia dont worry
Spades_Slicc: self destruct and thunder so you can cast them both of seifer?
Iperithon: Could you have... thunder magiced ochu, self destruct rinoa, swing with seifer, do it again?
SolarBlitz1: 1pt or possible other spell to cast, it's pretty even
TehAmelie: huh, imagine how easy the pilgrims would have it if they could just search the library for Zanarkand
Sorator13: Well, you would've used one of the removal spells on their only available blocker
Iperithon: Yeah, seifer survives
Sorator13: and then yeah, three removal spells at your disposal. Ah well.
mjiig: Attempt-to-self-destruct
Diabore: huh
jaimeblacken: ??
Diabore: wa
Semaph:
So hyped about MagicCon coming back to Amsterdam Will you guys be there again? I know I should bring decks and be there the whole weekend this time xD
Thefluffiestguineapig: HUH
WiJohn: Kill it with thunder!
Earthenone: ill allow it
Diabore: i think they forgot to attack with it?
Kentosaurus: did oppo oopsie?
Thefluffiestguineapig: I think they miss clicked
shortieXV: isn't that... good for us?
DudelidouX: misclick or trick?
jaimeblacken: there's nothing for 1 mana now is there
Spades_Slicc: never question a misplay
Sorator13: I'm not aware of a relevant trick for one white
shortieXV: fight spell maybe if they didn't play a land?
Diabore: i think they meant to attack with garnet and brain short circuit
Earthenone: block her with pupu at least
Thefluffiestguineapig: Isn't there the cure
TheDevil_Risen: 1W? hrmmm
jaimeblacken: you should because you can't kill it if they pump it
Sorator13: @TheDevil_Risen Just W, I think
Diabore: pupu on rinoa and seifer
SolarBlitz1: we're at 7 so it's a lot to take 4 with a 3/3 flyer yeah
Diabore: too late
jaimeblacken: ah
Diabore: oh thats what they had
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeah
Sorator13: That's... fine? Huh.
Thefluffiestguineapig: I'm confused
Diabore: we can do it now
Thefluffiestguineapig: Can't you do it now?
Spades_Slicc: You can do the dream
singinnonsense: thunder magic the garuda ?
jaimeblacken: i think killing rinoa is better?
Diabore: garuda kind of needs to die
SolarBlitz1: Do we thunder the flyer, destruct the Garnet with seiger as he lives?
Earthenone: if you leave the flyer as the blocker they will need to trade it off or let you cast 2 more times
jaimeblacken: you can block gyruda
Diabore: we can still self destruct if absolutely necessary
TheDevil_Risen: self D takes care of either too
Sorator13: Yeah, I like removing Vayne and attacking with Seifer
Diabore: are they dead?
Iperithon: self destruct here?
Thefluffiestguineapig: REALLY
SolarBlitz1: Oh yeah we get to thunder for free now
Earthenone: now we can go off
Sorator13:
Diabore: no?
Iperithon: no...
Spades_Slicc: flashback thunder for 4 on rinoa?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Thunder magic something?
shortieXV: don't have to cast it again
Thefluffiestguineapig: Rinoa?
Snowwraith: He'll only deal it once.
Jorsh029: Only if you cast it again on the trigger
Revelia: You dont have to cast again
jaimeblacken: self destruct rinoa and then thunder magic garnet
Spades_Slicc: use self destruct then thunder for 2 on garnet
Sorator13: You only use self-destruct on Seifer once, then the second time you could just not cast it, or use PuPu to dome them for one
Diabore: oh we can do that
Jorsh029: Fights/punches don't care about double strike
BrowneePointz: Garuda, Jicama, ooo I’m bad at rhyming. Arugala, Bahamut, help please I’m word crime-ing!
Sorator13: missing out on one damage is probably no biggie
Iperithon: No i get what he meant
SolarBlitz1: Lots of moving choices
Jorsh029: Get Garuda outta here!
Iperithon: he would have to cast self destruct twice XD
Thefluffiestguineapig: The choices are all super complicated here
Spades_Slicc: simply ramp to 9 and bahamut
Sorator13: Good news is that we couldn't use our removal for that. Bad news is that we can't use our removal for that...
Diabore: @Iperithon seifer is may
Earthenone: we could also destruct a non seifer creature, but its a lot to thing about in a combat step, its cool
Sorator13: You could've used the second cast of Self-Destruct on a different one of your creatures. But no biggie.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeah probably
dragonthing7: Bahamut?
Desdae: Or do you cycle to guarentee your 9th land next turn?
Earthenone: the dome is a legal target
Diabore: @dragonthing7 one short
Sorator13: Right, it would've just been one damage to opponent's face
dragonthing7: I am unable to count
brainbosh: Would fat choco, cycling dino to guarantee bahamut next turn?
Snowwraith: Only one away from the big dragon.
dragonthing7: I thought we were already at eight
Dog_of_Myth: Need the life though
Thefluffiestguineapig: Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Spades_Slicc: do we need the life? nothing they have has trample
Sorator13:
@dragonthing7 no, we're at six 
Thefluffiestguineapig: I'm not seeing the line for them
Thefluffiestguineapig: Huh
Diabore: rip rydia?
Spades_Slicc: rydia under the diamond?
Diabore: pupu
Thefluffiestguineapig: Right
Diabore: sadly
Sorator13: boy, that's a sentence
Spades_Slicc: PuPu the gardener
Thefluffiestguineapig: Rip Pupu
TheDevil_Risen: o7 PuPu
Spades_Slicc: moer chumbers
jaimeblacken: i think you could go to 1? but i like living on the edge... of eternity
singinnonsense: that a lot of birds
RangerAlpha7: you definately attack with 1, but i don't know which one
shortieXV: Seifer is fun. 6/6 double strike trample is deece enough
TheDevil_Risen: yeah probs the best line
Desdae: It forces a block
Snowwraith: You can self-destruct the moogle out of here if they don't block him.
Spades_Slicc: attacking with just the t-rexaur would be 2 more potential damage
jaimeblacken: we're doing it
Dog_of_Myth: Come on untapped land
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Thefluffiestguineapig: Come on land!
RangerAlpha7: Found the land in the hardest way possible
Thefluffiestguineapig: DAMN IT
jaimeblacken: there's the land!
Diabore: no
Diabore: they take 0
Snowwraith: Time to durdle for the bahamut
Gekyouryuu: call and get 9th land?
Spades_Slicc: they don't take damage from trample
Diabore: you deal no damage
Diabore: so you can never assign lethal
WiJohn: Because it's not invulnerable
Spades_Slicc: diamond weapon prevents damage, it would have no damage marked on it
brainbosh: Trample requires kjilling it right?
singinnonsense: nah it's 4
Aarek: no trample requires assigning lethal damage, not killing
brainbosh: Was that leathal with the trample?
RangerAlpha7: oh that was lethal from the trample, i guess it doesnt' really matter
Sorator13: First strike deals 6 damage, which it doesn't take; then normal strike deals 6 damage, which it doesn't take
jaimeblacken: they'd take 2
Diabore: yes and weapon takjes no damage
Iperithon:
time to win
Veshnikard: If it was indestructible it would work that way
XavusGaming: @brainbosh Trample requires assigning lethal, but it doesn't have to actually die
superdude097: Trample requires ASSIGNING leathal damage. It doesn't matter if the lethal damage gets prevented
Gekyouryuu: you can't assign lethal because it has no damage marked from first strike in normal damage
Sorator13: If you were assigning 12 trample damage in one step, that would work. But you're assigning 6 trample in two different damage steps.
Snowwraith: @brainbosh You assign damage to be lethal then it happens. As interacts oddly with double damage, as it's only doubled after.
TheDevil_Risen: GG
Kentosaurus: gg
Spades_Slicc: first strike damage you assign 6 and deal 0, normal damage you assign 6 and diamond has no damage marked
Dog_of_Myth:
jaimeblacken: YAY
Earthenone: it wont remember the lethality, because the creature wont have damage marked during second strike so it would see it needs at least 8 again
BrowneePointz: WARK!
Thefluffiestguineapig: This will be massive bunkus
A_nearby_Tr3e: since the first strike damage is provented you would have to deall all 6 damage to the weapon during normal strike
TheDevil_Risen:
we got there
Tonemanzero: The crowd goes wild
WiJohn: The 9 mana mythic was good!
jaimeblacken: perfect timing!
Earthenone: !time
LRRbot: Current moonbase time: 4:20 PM
Jorsh029: Oh, because it's less than 8, it's two instances of 6,, not one instance of 12
GapFiller: nice
Sorator13: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: LRRMTG (It's the grand final of our Final Fantasy Sealed League! Nelson vs. Cameron! FIGHT! Game: Magic: The Gathering) at Thu 04:30 PM PDT (9m from now).
Diabore: perfect timing
NornsFelidar: after you deal first strike damage it gets prevented, so during normal damage you need assign again
TehAmelie: clearly god never meant for trample and double strike to live on the same card
Sorator13: ty for stream G!
A_nearby_Tr3e: ty for the stream
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CaptainSpam: Stay tuned for MOAR
Spades_Slicc: @TehAmelie double strike trample is in the new testament actually, it's both of those and the prevention of damage that's heretical
TehAmelie: gasp
bytecaster: exciting
TheDevil_Risen: thanks Graham!
ContingentCat: thanks g
Flyingdelorion: Thank you Graham for streaming! I will see the sealed leauge in the vod cause it's late over here.
Spades_Slicc: Do I have time to roast a turkey?
CaptainSpam:
Spades_Slicc: should I have moved it to the fridge already?
A_nearby_Tr3e: @Spades_Slicc Only if you can slap the turckey at mock jeeesus
TheDevil_Risen:
Spades_Slicc: @A_nearby_Tr3e unfortunately my turkey smacking is merely clocking in at mock Joseph
letsbelgo: Im glad cam made it to the finals
A_nearby_Tr3e: @Spades_Slicc That got me good, i just spit out my coffee
LoadingReadyRun: you all see us as online right?
bytecaster: yes
A_nearby_Tr3e: Yes
Spades_Slicc: sure
Earthenone: as going online, yes
RangerAlpha7: i had to refresh but yes
ContingentCat: yup
Sorator13: @RangerAlpha7 as is tradition
Plasterboard: I like that "immediately online" meant this screen instead of an empty Studio C
A_nearby_Tr3e: There is no background music
jaimeblacken: One of my favorite lrr moments is "you won the ppr cam" from nelson, so I'm rooting for cam!
TheDevil_Risen: @LoadingReadyRun goign online
lightfut: We go againe
Sorator13: one more time!
TehAmelie:
Thefluffiestguineapig: This animation is so good
Kentosaurus: another excuse to run the animation
sporkraptor: *wild cheering*
Sorator13: I am also very sleeby
TehAmelie: greetings, champions
Spades_Slicc: What a second, Graham was just in the streaming room, what is this sorcery?
letsbelgo: @Spades_Slicc Its magic
matthaus_c: league streams are great!
Sorator13: boy am I noticing the high res camera today
Spades_Slicc: @letsbelgo The Gathering?!?!?!?!?!
A_nearby_Tr3e: @Spades_Slicc There are several G clones
letsbelgo: Well, there are three people on screen
Spades_Slicc: @A_nearby_Tr3e ah I see, to keep the Paul clones company right?
letsbelgo: oh wheeler
Scy_Anide: I thought I had missed FF MTG today, and I did, but also I didn't. So I got here just in time and also just...not in time?
DeM0nFiRe: Does the stream keep halting or is it on my side?
Sorator13: @DeM0nFiRe I'm not having any issues
Spades_Slicc: @Scy_Anide time is fake, a wizard (you) is neither early or late, merely on time
A_nearby_Tr3e: @Scy_Anide We are in a Shrodinger cats world of ff mtg
Diabore: nelly had more 2-0's sounds like
TheDevil_Risen: lets go Nelly *clap clap* Lets go Cameron *clap clap*
LRRbot: Guadosalam, Farplane Gateway | Land — Town | This land enters tapped. / {T}: Add {G} or {U}.
Kentosaurus: lol
Diabore: love guadosalami
Dog_of_Myth:
TheDevil_Risen: half a Dilly bar each?
Aceviru: Ice cream split sounds great
Gekyouryuu: happy birthmas, Paul
LRRbot: Vector, Imperial Capital | Land — Town | This land enters tapped. / {T}: Add {B} or {R}.
jaimeblacken: red mana!
LRRbot: Insomnia, Crown City | Land — Town | This land enters tapped. / {T}: Add {W} or {B}.
Spades_Slicc: Why do people like Dilly bars so much?
Dog_of_Myth: Also Happy Birthday Paul!
ContingentCat:
A_nearby_Tr3e: Happy belated bday Paul
EvilBadman: Banana split obv
DeM0nFiRe:
Happy birthday 
TheDevil_Risen: loll
TehAmelie: Ah, Vector. i can hear the industrial chiptune music
jaimeblacken: samesies coming!
Diabore: nelly on all 5 colurs on 3
Spades_Slicc: Cameron has the chance to do the funniest thing
LRRbot: Rabanastre, Royal City | Land — Town | This land enters tapped. / {T}: Add {R} or {W}.
Spades_Slicc: and he resisted
LRRbot: Suplex [1R] | Sorcery | Choose one — / • Suplex deals 3 damage to target creature. If that creature would die this turn, exile it instead. / • Exile target artifact.
lightfut: !card blitzball
LRRbot: Blitzball [3] | Artifact | {T}: Add one mana of any color. / GOOOOAAAALLL! — {T}, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw two cards. Activate only if an opponent was dealt combat damage by a legendary creature this turn.
Dog_of_Myth:
Kentosaurus: take your ball and go home
Tonemanzero: lol
singinnonsense: the sea was angry that day
LRRbot: Sazh Katzroy [3G] | Legendary Creature — Human Pilot [3/3] | When Sazh Katzroy enters, you may search your library for a Bird or basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle. / Whenever Sazh Katzroy attacks, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature, then double the number of +1/+1 counters on that creature.
bytecaster: Oh Sazh is a problem
Diabore: thats a hell of a rare
jaimeblacken: that card is not okay
Gekyouryuu: there's a moment at the end of 10-2 involving a blitzball that I won't spoil
matthaus_c: bird or basic land was a strange this or that
TehAmelie: @Gekyouryuu did that kid finally become a blitzball?
LRRbot: Vincent Valentine [2BB] (back: Galian Beast) | Legendary Creature — Assassin [2/2] | Whenever a creature an opponent controls dies, put a number of +1/+1 counters on Vincent Valentine equal to that creature's power. / Whenever Vincent Valentine attacks, you may transform it.
Gekyouryuu: @TehAmelie do you want me to whisper you the answer?
TehAmelie: nah it's funnier to imagine
LRRbot: Lindblum, Industrial Regency // Mage Siege | Lindblum, Industrial Regency [2R] | Land — Town | This land enters tapped. / {T}: Add {R}. // Mage Siege | Instant — Adventure | Create a 0/1 black Wizard creature token with "Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this token deals 1 damage to each opponent."
Gekyouryuu: fair, but the real answer is also very funny
gualdhar: has anyone successfully suplexed a phantom train?
Snowwraith: I've never had a kill spell whilst he was untransformed. Well, like once maybe.
Diabore: worse actually, it doubles counters
Tonemanzero: God I love Vincent in Commander. I went from 16 life to winning the game on turn 3 at 68. People don't respect him.
YawnLance: @gualdhar Twice!
LRRbot: Galian Beast (front: Vincent Valentine) | Legendary Creature — Werewolf Beast [3/2] | Trample, lifelink / When Galian Beast dies, return it to the battlefield tapped.
LRRbot: Ahriman [2B] | Creature — Eye Horror [2/2] | Flying, deathtouch / {3}, Sacrifice another creature or artifact: Draw a card.
goombalax: Of the Thousand Sons?!
A_nearby_Tr3e: @goombalax Every time
Gekyouryuu: currently 5-2 in draft. wish me luck, friends, though I've at least made profit
goombalax: its required I dunno what to tell you @A_nearby_Tr3e
Jorsh029: It feels real good when Sazh thinks Tifa is a birb
Spades_Slicc: @Gekyouryuu Luck 👆
LRRbot: Vayne's Treachery [1B] | Instant | Kicker—Sacrifice an artifact or creature. / Target creature gets −2/−2 until end of turn. If this spell was kicked, that creature gets −6/−6 until end of turn instead.
UtilityPunk:
WotC: banning cards for being hard to interact with. Also Wotc: printing hard to interact with cards
matthaus_c: value village
Kentosaurus: that's sick
Diabore: no
matthaus_c: vincent gets no counters, right?
Diabore: its a 0/0
GredGredmansson: Vincent gets no counters because you reduced its stats
A_nearby_Tr3e: Vincent shouldn't get counters
jaimeblacken: same thing happened on the protour
Jorsh029: Would work with overkill though
LRRbot: Summon: Anima [4BB] | Enchantment Creature — Saga Horror [4/4] | I, II, III — Pain — You draw a card and you lose 1 life. / IV — Oblivion — Each opponent sacrifices a creature of their choice and loses 3 life. / Menace
jaimeblacken: but they did get the counters and the game continued, the guy made it to the finals
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