SnackPak_:
cards
TXC2:
well it took 90 mins, and it had to "gather files" twice, but arena has updated for me 
TXC2: CONTACT
RandomTrivia: CARDS CARDS CARDS CARDS CARDS
RandomTrivia:
Hi friends! 
TXC2:
and now we play the game of how much of this game have I remember from Wheeler played the gameboy version?
SnackPak_: I mostly remember coin flips from those streams
TXC2: indeed
BITs19_: ohhhh is this the game where you get two free packs every day and don't engage with anything else?
FurthestChunk: @BITs19_ no this is when ptcg was good (read: the game as it was when i was a child)
Kentosaurus: no, this is the game where the kid who opened a charizard from a pack on his birthday slams it then takes your cards when he wins
TXC2: the kid with the foil charizard plays with it on concrete
Kentosaurus: @TXC2 this exactly
TXC2: Here we GO!
TheAinMAP:
Aceviru: It's MOREBEN time!
hd_dabnado: base fossil? uh yeah, I think it is kinda base
TXC2: Hello Ben and Ben
Hrrisn: POKEMON!
FourCatsInASuit: I still have my Wigglytuff Do the wave deck from base.
TXC2: I WILL TRAVEL!
TheAinMAP:
Hello 
TXC2: !patreon
artdecosunburn: My favorite animated/card collecting kids' version of dog fighting.
TXC2: it's the Circle of LRR
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hd_dabnado: is wheeler on eggs?
Hrrisn: Worlds was LIT
TXC2: hello Raiders!
Aceviru: You shelve the vintage for special occasions
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TheAwkes: Cool. The moire of the stacked cards is separating into blue and yellow stripes on my screen!
Hrrisn: The decks the seniors finalists were using at worlds were really interesting
incslayer: the video game show was surprisingly Great
loufghyslaufey: Wait. This your IRL?
TXC2: !vod
LoadingReadyRun:
The very beginning: a very good place to start
loufghyslaufey: Wuh?
BlueFingers5: I remember those days
SnackPak_: *gasp*
Aceviru: haha nah
cattleprodlynn: Hello Ben and Ben!
ContingentCat: gasp!
Hrrisn: I still have some Wizards pkmn cards
loufghyslaufey: But wait. This era of Pokemon is old, right?
TXC2:
loufghyslaufey hush you
SourAndSublimes: Ayo
loufghyslaufey: @TXC2 I... Didn't object?
FourCatsInASuit: I remember going to tourneys on the side for this in the city.
RandomTrivia: Psyburn Mewtwo? Let's goooo
SourAndSublimes: Wheeler and ben playing pokemon ayooo
emilevitt:
holy shit my childhood 
Hrrisn: Isn't Hitmon Lee busted in this format? I never played it
FourCatsInASuit: That promo mewtwo was fire.
artdecosunburn: @LoadingReadyRun Isn't that how "Do-Re-Mi" in "The Sound of Music" begins?
UnknownFriday: Ah, so similar to Old School Magic.
Jturbobanana: the McDonalds mew?
emilevitt:
ancient mew 
Mangledpixel: guffaw guffaw
RandomTrivia: Good jest, streamers
A_Dub888: the one with the “ancient” text?
hd_dabnado: at the YMCA?
MommaGart: I played one month of this format in a league on the Pokemon 1999 Discord and it was awesome
SourAndSublimes dont be fooled this is actually gladiator 
Aceviru: Loved collecting the cards as a child.
RandomTrivia:
So there's this card called Pot of Greed... 
RandomTrivia:
artdecosunburn: So you "dug up" some Fossil cards?
hd_dabnado: uncle stoise is dissapointed
FurthestChunk: They're busy helping the Squad
Mangledpixel: it's not quite Yu-Gi-Oh's 'lets make cards and then figure out how the game works after' mentality, but it was still the wild west of design
MrGibberish: @randomtrivia the fact that emotes that looks like a shiny squirtle
ELD_Winterlight: I think I have a few squirtles laying around. I'll bring them to the next EU magiccon
Hrrisn: this is like Yugioh GOAT format
loufghyslaufey: @RandomTrivia What? No. Uh, nah- please not- "nOBoDY EVeN KnOWs WHaT PoT Of GReED dOEs!"
FurthestChunk: so no dark vileplume next week then
RandomTrivia: @loufghyslaufey I mean, I'll tell you, but it's expensive... I'll send you the Bill
ztghostie: is it like ensnaring bridge?
voren_chalco: Lickitung was really strong setup in the gameboy game
emilevitt:
alakazam 
RandomTrivia:
loufghyslaufey I know it was painful but thank you for enabling my elaborate setup to a stupid gag 
hd_dabnado: eggy!
RandomTrivia: EGGsplosion YESSSSS let's goooo
BITs19_: Wheeler's not playing eggs?
ztghostie: do the wave lets go!
Hrrisn: DO THE WAVE
Croc64: WAVE MOMENT
FurthestChunk: the w a v e
RandomTrivia: The wave!
FurthestChunk: damn shame my boy porygon isn't particularly good
FurthestChunk: Honestly, based
RandomTrivia: I spent so much time playing the Toxic Nidoking in the GB version, loved that.
FurthestChunk: Doduo and Dodrio are pretty good tbh
MommaGart: Venucenter! My favorite!
TXC2: FurthestChunk porygon never being good is always bizzare to me
RandomTrivia: Venucentre - my beloved
FurthestChunk: @TXC2 paying for the crimes of the yellow rat forever I guess
TXC2: FurthestChunk indeed
RandomTrivia:
When you do the big tour, you play the Hits-monchan
Croc64: Everyday of my life I think about resleeving ducktales
Hrrisn: Hitmon Chan. That's what I was thinking of. Busted back in the day and apparently its still good
emilevitt: i wonder if there's some sort of gen 2 variation of this format
emilevitt: i loved neo destinies when i was a kid
FurthestChunk: Oh Jason covers like every retro format
FurthestChunk: You can absolutely play Neo though that format is more expensive iirc
FurthestChunk: cherry coke zero spotted, based
FurthestChunk: Oh this overlay rips
TXC2: yeah that card back takes me back
Simbionis: oh god, 4 profs researches a turn
FurthestChunk: Professor Oak and Bill, such a good time
sanctuari: I could have been watching this over the game awards. Aww man
RandomTrivia: Attacking on turn 1 feels great when you're on Kangaskhan
sanctuari: Will have to void it up later
sanctuari: vod*
FurthestChunk: @Simbionis and there's more if you're not a coward (gambler)
TXC2: sanctuari we've only just started
FurthestChunk: god do I remember the Pokémon card command
sanctuari: True, but its also 6am anyway! >_<
RandomTrivia:
Turns out when everyone has 4 copies of Wheel of Fortune, decking out is surprisingly easy!
FurthestChunk: !pokemon Gambler
LRRbot: Gambler | Trainer | Shuffle your hand into your deck. Flip a coin. If heads, draw 8 cards. If tails, draw 1 card.
TXC2: drawing hand BEFORE prize cards is wild to me
Programmerman1: lol why-oming
RandomTrivia: @TXC2 Stops you prizing all your basics if you run low numbers
TheAwkes: Caribou. Not an elk.
TXC2: RandomTrivia I see
Simbionis: Heads/Tails dice are the best thing I've seen for the PTCG
Laserbeaks_Fury: I miss my Buffalo Tails
A_Dub888: !vaselineorbarcode
LRRbot: Vaseline!
jamwno: What's the name of the Gundam card game?
RandomTrivia: The 6 prizes mirror the 6-slot party in Pokemon main series games
TheAwkes: @jamwno Yes.
CrossXhunteR: i played pokemon card game like 20+ years ago, and don't remember a damned thing about it
RandomTrivia:
ztghostie: But what does Bill DO
TXC2: there are only 3 card games, just like writing was invented only 4 times
Aceviru: Bill, a fair card
FurthestChunk: god Mr Mime was such a pain in the ass in the psychic club in the GB game
A_Dub888: Bill is fairer than Pot of Greed because people actually know what it does
13 raiders from coachNelly have joined!
TXC2: Hello Raiders
RandomTrivia:
Welcome raiders! 
Hrrisn: Double Colourless was a staple for years and only got better over time
Marvoleath:
BenBen playing eggs and Mr Mime? Have I stepped into a timeline where the Bens got swapped?
CrossXhunteR: pokemon really loves their coin flips, don't they
FurthestChunk: i can see the animation for scrunch in the game boy game
FurthestChunk: I have played the game boy game too much
TXC2: FurthestChunk we all did
RandomTrivia: ^
Sleepy__Alice: @FurthestChunk the gameboy game rules so you're valid
Laserbeaks_Fury: Pot of Weeb
hd_dabnado: Kill Bill
RandomTrivia: Expensive discard pile, it's full of Bills
Programmerman1: So legit old cards, love to see it
FurthestChunk: God the art is so good
BrowneePointz: oh man does this bring me back to my youth. playing comp pokemon tcg at the library every weekend.
Jturbobanana: Scrunch is considered an attack even though it does no damage?
BrowneePointz: I had all the original badge sets and lost them when I moved in 8th grade
MrGibberish: As I am watching this, I found my binder from grade school. The nostalgia is real strong right now
FurthestChunk: Oh this game is like playing Vintage for all the Magic heads
A_Dub888: strip mine but free
TXC2:
A_Dub888 so strip mine in Brawl then?
RandomTrivia: Chansey is MESSED
FurthestChunk: I wish we were listening to the GB music
Heleor: Battle of the bens
BrowneePointz: it’s kinda like playing Nimble Mongoose era Eternal Magic
TXC2: FurthestChunk open up youtube and listen for yourself
Kentosaurus: My nostalgia right now is realizing how little we knew of the actual game mechanics as children
FurthestChunk: yeah but i want everyone to experience it
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FurthestChunk: because it rips
RandomTrivia:
Metal Chansey lets you Steel games against unsuspecting opponents
TXC2: FurthestChunk fair
ThePerrBearr: oh cool, they made a physical version of the gameboy game
LoadingReadyRun:
can you play this retro format in the current pokemon digital client?
Simbionis: no
voren_chalco: Benching a jigglypuff doesn't sound that impressive; it doesn't weigh much
FurthestChunk: no, but you can play it (mostly) (there's a couple cards missing) on Nintendo Switch Online
A_Dub888: we waving?
Simbionis: Live only goes back to Gen 5 cards IIRC?
BrowneePointz: nope. there is no current “digital” client that’s 1:1 to the card game iirc
Bruceski: @voren_chalco The hard part is finding the right grip
cruel_apathy: !drops
FurthestChunk: Because you have the Game Boy game on there
RandomTrivia:
This format is MADE of coinflips
FurthestChunk: Never not be flipping coins
Aceviru: Pot of Oak
BrowneePointz: yea it supposed to evoke some of the mechanical rng of the games but also is the great equalizer
FurthestChunk: Oh that eggy is going to cause so much violence when it evolves
Hrrisn: we're wheelin
RandomTrivia: And it doesn't draw your opponent cards
Aceviru: Oh yeahhh
MommaGart: @BrowneePointz I believe the TCGLive is 1:1 for at least the officially supported formats.
TXC2: Pokemon to MTG: "it's [Blank busted card] but free!"
RandomTrivia:
E G G
Aceviru: Egg em out
BrowneePointz: @mommagart has it been kept current with pocket out?
Simbionis: there are various cards that devolve pokemon so it's important to keep the previous ones there
FurthestChunk: @MommaGart Yeah but for this one, no dice other than the Game Boy game and that's still a couple cards off
Programmerman1: At least later Pokemon turned things like Oak into a Supporter where drawing a bunch of cards may not be the best thing you can do with your one Supporter per turn
TXC2: veteran of the show will know this from Wheeler streaming the Gameboy game
FurthestChunk: @BrowneePointz I would assume so, people would riot
BITs19_: ah, the rule of cool
MommaGart: @BrowneePointz yeah pocket is kind of its own thing. they still regularly update TCGLive and they still put codes in every booster pack to redeem in the digital client
FurthestChunk: !pokemon lass
LRRbot: Lass | Trainer | You and your opponent show each other your hands, then shuffle all the Trainer cards from your hands into your decks.
A_Dub888: !card lass
LRRbot: Found 69 cards you could be referring to - please enter more of the name
TXC2: A_Dub888 !card only hits MtG cards
RandomTrivia:
You do a bunch of stuff, Lass your opponent into oblivion and pray they don't topdeck an Oak
BrowneePointz: but yea this is how I got started seriously into card games. I don’t know if it was until NEO where I understood what “meta” meant but this game gave me the skill foundation I then springboard into magic with in high school
Laserbeaks_Fury:
You are definitely more likely to get 4 tails than 4 heads 
BrowneePointz: this is giving me a lot of warm nostalgia
LoadingReadyRun: I didn't realize that lrrbot had pokemon cards
vinopinguino:
So...3 heads? 
nyc_mtg: 50/50 chance, that either would've happened or wouldn't
BITs19_: ONE! TWO! THREE!
A_Dub888: @LoadingReadyRun lrrbot contains multitudes apparently
TXC2: LoadingReadyRun yeah, not sure when we added those, possibly when Wheeler streamed the Gameboy version of this?
vinopinguino: Do the waveeee
BrowneePointz: and for the Magic fans that don’t know, WotC actually had distribution rights in NA for the first few years!
MommaGart: There's a section in Rystic Studies' YouTube video on Foils where he goes over the test print Blastoise that was printed on Magic cardstock along with Lightning Dragon
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: @BrowneePointz *grabs the cards within reach* oh yeah, wizards' name is on there
BrowneePointz: but yea they were the translation and distribution holders from 98-03
Aceviru: C'mon
BITs19_: THREE
Kentosaurus: surely
RandomTrivia: No way
Aceviru: CMON
RandomTrivia: NO WAY
BITs19_: FOUR
AutonomousTurtle: skill game
super731: LETS GO
Aceviru: Hahaha
RandomTrivia: BAHAHAHAHAH
niccus: now this is the pokemon tcg i remember
Simbionis: highlight reel!
Kentosaurus: clip it
MommaGart: i'll clip it lol
nyc_mtg: LMAO
TXC2: LETS GO!
SourAndSublimes: Lol
SnackPak_: this is the PTCG I remember
roadtwothewest: LMAO
AFamiliarCalledEl: Get Pokemon'd!
MrBibz: Never didn't have it
hd_dabnado: I LOVE GAMBLING
TXC2: !clips
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Hrrisn: WTF
baneless27: quad tail!!!!!!!!!!!!
Programmerman1: let's gooooo!
vinopinguino: HahHahha
RandomTrivia: PTCG, everyone!
lamina5432: gamba
Programmerman1: Now we're playing pokemon!!!
Heleor: 12.5%
Mr_Horrible:
the arc of the universe is long, but it Bens toward justice 
vinopinguino: Lmao
TXC2: one in 16 chance, not that long
Sibwow: hello highlight reel
protojman: the lesson is- have more than one coin to flip
bisaflau: yeah that feels like pokemon tcg :'D
Programmerman1: 6.25% wincon identified
lamina5432: controlled gamba is best gamba
BITs19_: is Ghastly resistant to fire? or is that a fighting resist?
BrowneePointz: fighting
Programmerman1: Fighting
BITs19_: thanks, bit small on the reader
BrowneePointz: you can tell cuz the fighting symbol is browner/oranger
Programmerman1: Rotten Eggsplosion
BrowneePointz: the fire symbol is REAL red
RandomTrivia: That's *Captain* Wigglytuff now
Mr_Horrible: *KILL* the magmar? Surely it's just knocked out, right Ben?
TXC2: KILL = Knocked-out, is livin' large
RandomTrivia: Mr. Mime was the OG Mimikyu
itsaysTRUENO: "..if only you could talk to these creatures."
RandomTrivia:
Sometimes you run out their answers and sit behind it forever
Mr_Horrible: @TXC2 perfect, no notes
BrowneePointz: there’s a reason I still think this is the 2nd best card game next to Magic
GeorgePlaysMagic: are they meant to be 5 to 5? they each only have five prize cards remaining
BITs19_: What's a wheel of fortune going for these days....
Simbionis: PTCG is so good
RandomTrivia: @GeorgePlaysMagic They've each taken one prize
TXC2: !pokemon pluspower
LRRbot: PlusPower | Trainer — Item | During this turn, your Pokémon's attacks do 10 more damage to the Active Pokémon (before applying Weakness and Resistance). / You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).
BITs19_: yeesh, WoF is a little too rich for my blood
cattleprodlynn: I am totally going to have to watch the VOD because I've never played a Pokemon card game before.
BrowneePointz: the Pokemon tcg is so good
Mr_Horrible: you really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and search for a card?
OnyxOblivion: literally whatever you want
Simbionis: Ultra Ball but better is nuts
BrowneePointz: even nowadays where it’s more combo/engine focused it’s still a very good card game
BrowneePointz: also for the degenerates(affectionate) there is a Dredge archetype as well
itsaysTRUENO: all of these OP cards are pretty much standard for yugioh
Mr_Horrible: similar to the games where you played normal cards face-down as "lands", you have to think about your cards as themselves and also as resources to fuel other pieces
yonder_peasant: does wheeler like german foils in pokemon tcg as well? just asking because the german pokemon names are the best
RandomTrivia: 15/16 - equivalent to the most favourable but not guaranteed damage roll
FurthestChunk: Ben owns a graded Dogars
FurthestChunk: Ben Wheeler to be clear
FurthestChunk: Not Dogars, Smogon, mixing up my Koffing nanes
FurthestChunk: Names
MilkBreadTB: when does the mr mime that ruins the game come out? (flip a coin counter a supporter)
BrowneePointz: but yea if folks like graveyard strategy one they bring back quite a bit is called Night March. which does bonus damage based on the number of nights marchers in your gy
evancoletcg: LRR playing Retro Pokemon?? This is amazing
Hrrisn: I used to have that mewtwo card as a kid. I think my sister threw it out
evancoletcg: Wigmar
BrowneePointz: and when it’s in a format it’s USUALLY pretty good
baneless27: dang your sister wrecked you
Powerhelm: Fiery matchup
LRRbot: Gust of Wind | Trainer | Choose 1 of your opponent's Benched Pokémon and switch it with his or her Active Pokémon.
Hrrisn: she threw out a lot of stuff when she reorganized my parents house a while ago. I lost a lot of stuff that she didn't realize the value of
LRRbot: Professor Oak | Trainer | Discard your hand, then draw 7 cards.
evancoletcg: Base-Fossil ends in deckout way more than prizes
LRRbot: Bill | Trainer — Supporter | You can play only one Supporter card each turn. When you play this card, put it next to your Active Pokémon. When your turn ends, discard this card. / Draw 2 cards.
LRRbot: Energy Removal | Trainer | Choose 1 Energy card attached to 1 of your opponent's Pokémon and discard it.
Aceviru: Wee
Powerhelm: I like that the LRRbot is about 15 seconds faster than the video feed for me lol
MilkBreadTB: oh yea i forgot there were no supporters in this version of the game lol
LRRbot: Energy Retrieval | Trainer — Item | Put up to 2 Basic Energy cards from your discard pile into your hand. / You may play any number of Item cards during your turn.
itsaysTRUENO: who's got the Caterpie where the card art is a photo of a toy in some grass
Powerhelm: This is back when Pokémon was more interesting to me.
RandomTrivia:
@Powerhelm If you pause and unpause the stream, it should catch up. Or you can continue watching LRRbot being psychic, it's basically sentient already
BrowneePointz: was it the first R/S set when they added supporters?
evancoletcg: @BrowneePointz Expedition
evancoletcg: e-series era at the tail end of gen 2, when Nintendo took over the game from wotc
CrossXhunteR: i remember this energy retrieval art
evancoletcg: Lass Shuffles
evancoletcg: It doesnt discard
BrowneePointz: at the first e reader set
BrowneePointz: ah*
yonder_peasant: I got into the Gameboy version of this when Wheeler last played it on Is This your Card, that game is also still surprisingly solid, I kinda wanna fire it up again now
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evancoletcg: @yonder_peasant Yeah its still a lot of fun
BrowneePointz: that was when they realized items were busted and then had to fix Pokepowers right after cuz of Mantine
LRRbot: Pokémon Trader | Trainer | Trade 1 of the Basic Pokémon or Evolution cards in your hand for 1 of the Basic Pokémon or Evolution cards from your deck. Show both cards to your opponent. Shuffle your deck afterward.
BrowneePointz: freakin Ripples Mantine
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itsaysTRUENO: we got like 50 promo Entei cards because the projectionist put the film in backwards and they had to placate confused children
evancoletcg: Usually not
evancoletcg: Revive is bad
CrossXhunteR: not a tangent, but a journey
evancoletcg: Recycle is lowkey fun
LRRbot: Revive | Trainer — Item | Put a Basic Pokémon from your discard pile onto your Bench. / You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).
evancoletcg: Super Rod in Neo was the first good Pokemo recovery
CrossXhunteR: man, seeing these old arts is triggering my memory
LRRbot: Recycle | Trainer — Item | Flip a coin. If heads, put a card from your discard pile on top of your deck. / You may play as many Item cards as you like during your turn (before your attack).
FurthestChunk: Love seeing the most recent printings from the bot
evancoletcg: Moltres is nasty
Spades_Slicc: You're telling me this game has Millstone?
RandomTrivia:
E G G 
evancoletcg: @Spades_Slicc This entire format is full of deckout
BrowneePointz: @yonder_peasant Creatures Inc heavily researched Magic when they originally designed this
evancoletcg: 80% of Base-Fossil games end in deckout
RandomTrivia: One
Aceviru: Cmon baby
RandomTrivia: Awww
yonder_peasant: we gamblin'!
itsaysTRUENO: coin is rigged
BrowneePointz: and so this game has had a LOT of staying power cuz it’s a damn good game
Programmerman1: man the eggs do not favor Ben today
BrowneePointz: even though the game can be BLAZING fast nowadays depending on the meta
BITs19_: is PTCG played as a best-of-three?
TXC2:
game has staying power 'cause of the gambling
evancoletcg: the power of lass
Frizzlenill: I still really hope they change the prize rules, like to either make prizes peekable or deal 12 pick 6 or smth. The 2 minute process of figuring out your prizes every game SUCKS
AdamBreadshark: aww yea! Pokémon cards I’m aware of!
BITs19_: neat!
AdamBreadshark: wait did older pokemon have side boarding?
Mangledpixel: Paul, is the 'vaseline or barcode' coin flipper element still around? Could use that
Spades_Slicc: Is Totodile meta?
LRRbot: Gust of Wind | Trainer | Choose 1 of your opponent's Benched Pokémon and switch it with his or her Active Pokémon.
LRRbot: Professor Oak | Trainer | Discard your hand, then draw 7 cards.
TXC2: !vaselineorbarcode
LRRbot: Barcode!
evancoletcg: Feraligatr + Parasect was extremely strong
Aceviru:
evancoletcg: But Parasect was worded wrong so some people errata it
rentar42: So I just tuned in, know basically nothing about Pokemon, but the first thing I see is Wheeler playing a wheel ... I can get into this.
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BrowneePointz: I have no clue what is currently meta but they ARE about to get Mega evolves back!
Frizzlenill: there was a format where feraligatr was the only thing really worth playing
Simbionis: There is a fun Feraligator deck in standard now
evancoletcg: Base-Rocket and Base-Gym are sooooo awful lol
FurthestChunk: Hi I'm sickos
Simbionis: not especially meta but
Mangledpixel: Based Jim
FurthestChunk: I just find the existence of Dark Vileplume incredibly funny I don't actually really want to play Rocket
evancoletcg: Can I convince y'all to try 2004 worlds sometime?
evancoletcg: It's simple yet deep
GBT722: God standard Pokemon is so good right now
Desruprot: Gotta Collect'em All
GBT722: Worlds 2004 format is awesome too
Croc64: Riptide feraligatr rules in modified (iirc)
Frizzlenill: @GBT722 can't wait for basic 3 prizers to come back /s
evancoletcg: Rocket-Neo is fun
BrowneePointz: Worlds 2004 and Modified are great
IsSecretlyPaul: Ben I legit was joking to my roomate that nobody actually plays the pokemon TCG
Aceviru: Hell yeah
GBT722: @Frizzlenill I think Scarlet/Violet game design is WAY better prepared to handle them.
RandomTrivia: Don't mind us, this is great viewing
IsSecretlyPaul: like 2 seconds
itsaysTRUENO: an avalanche of proper nouns
CrossXhunteR: how long are your first turn searches (i think this is discourse)
TXC2: !break
LRRbot: Remember chat, break time for the streamer means break time for YOU, so unclench, get up, stretch, walk about a bit, and maybe refresh your drink, take your meds, or go to the toilet if you need to. Don't forget to wash your hands!
Croc64: My white whale is I wanna play base neo kingdra, it calls to me
GBT722: @Frizzlenill Maybe i'm dense but I haven't found too many Megas that's seem super playable right now
FurthestChunk: @Croc64 don't let your dreams be dreams
TXC2: right chat I'm off
Aceviru: Today is a TTBB.
Frizzlenill: @GBT722 well I hope so, I don't love that they're a much bigger on/off power level for a deck and how they make some prize sequences less interesting. Not really a power concern, more a fun concern
BrowneePointz: I wish I still had all my league badges
Aceviru: See ya @TXC2
evancoletcg: @Croc64 Kingdra just won a big base-neo tournament
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Hrrisn: Gotta admit, this is rad
emilevitt: watching is making me wanna go back to playing pokemon tcg
emilevitt: hgss was such a cool set
emilevitt:
evancoletcg: TCGONE is a free online sim that you can play retro Pokemon on. It has a really active community, especially for the wotc era formats like base-fossil or base-neo
evancoletcg: A lot of the best players in the world use it too
GBT722: @Frizzlenill Lucario is about the only deck I can think of right now that has an uninteresting sequence (Just KO 2 of their Lucario's). Otherwise, I think they just don't get played/make you consider how much of a liability they are to play
BrowneePointz: but yea just reminds me of two older era Magic Midrange decks going head to head
itsaysTRUENO: someone made 30 tokens in one turn via coin flips in that D&D MTG set. helped me quit arena for good lol
GBT722: @GBT722 I think mega basic ex's are just small enough that you're gonna play them, and then PultNoir is gonna punish you for playing such a large prize liability.
Frizzlenill: @GBT722 sounds fair. We've got at least a year or two of new ones and I worry that they'll keep getting juiced until they see play, though
BrowneePointz: ooof dusknoir is still meta?
GBT722: @Frizzlenill Yeah if the power creep within the mechanic just ramps over the next however long they print them, that will be problematic.
Frizzlenill: that said, I've found most of the design the last few years really encouraging and am considering getting back in (but whoever made budew a free retreat needs to go take a long hard look at themself)
BrowneePointz: sorry still in the format*
GBT722: @BrowneePointz Yes but we get Psyduck in Mega Evoluition so we'll see if it's enough to check it
Frizzlenill: I would also like more insight into the design process like you get for mtg
sarahparagon: Happy I was able to catch this, love playing retro Pokemon tcg formats
BrowneePointz: god I hope so cuz Dusknoir while policing a bunch of lore unfair bs also just pushed out so much stuff in the format
FurthestChunk: Budew is wild but at least it's not as psychotic as like, Dark Vileplume or Cleffa
BrowneePointz: more unfair*
GBT722: Noir is in the perfect spot IMO. It's really good in a few decks but not overly oppresive
GBT722: So it makes for some interesting board states
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Frizzlenill: noir feels like it adds a lot of decisions and depth for a lot of decks with and against. Budew doesn't really feel that way tbh
FurthestChunk: I tried Dark Vileplume in GB2 once and by the end of the match wanted to gnaw my own leg off
BrowneePointz: but yea I’d love to see the Ben’s play some of the R/S era stuff as well
GBT722: Budew is something for sure, but there are also some good answers to it depending on what deck you play
Frizzlenill: I also... admit I'm hesitant to get back into the game after semifinals of worlds reminded me that sometimes the game says you get no dragapults in your dragapult deck this game lol
evancoletcg: The ex era is the most intricate and complex era in the game's history
FurthestChunk: that's card games!
Frizzlenill: @GBT722 yeah I don't mind power to be clear, it's more the design thing of, does it create enjoyable play patterns. Balanced or not, I don't like it if it creates stale or linear play
GBT722: Prize cards are gonna prize card. You just have to decide which goofy TCG mechanic you want to play with. I LOVE MTG, but lands are certainly a thing.
BrowneePointz: the early ex era was great cuz poke power and bodies were getting to a balanced state
evancoletcg: RS-PK is an insanely deep and complex format with an extremely active playerbase. There was a 150 player tournament in Japan, a 50 player tournamernt in Milwaukee, and several 70+ online tournaments this summer
BrowneePointz: and the early EXs weren’t power scaled to oblivion yet
Frizzlenill: @GBT722 I've seen people propose at least peekable prizes or deal 8 pick 6 or such, which seem like refinements that could remove the 2 minute start-of-game searches and feels-bads
GBT722: I played 2006 - 2010 before coming back right as E block rotated. God I miss DPPT
GBT722: End of ex era was sick too
BrowneePointz: I stopped playing competitively after ex emerald or ex deoxys
sarahparagon: @evancoletcg only sad thing about it is that collectors have contributed to a lot of the playable gold stars being obscenely expensive for decks
emilevitt: i think i stopped around hgss?
BrowneePointz: moved to a new town for high school and started MtG the following year lol
GBT722: @Frizzlenill IMO if we are gonna adjust prizes at all, I want regular setup but you get to look at your prizes
evancoletcg: @sarahparagon For what its worth, that era has kind of always been ridiculously expensive
GBT722: To save from super long deck searches early game
Frizzlenill: that's the conservative but I think highly defensible approach yeah
emilevitt: the pokemon split into 2 cards was really cool but i lost interest in favor for playing mtg at the time
sarahparagon: @evancoletcg true, fair lol
GBT722: @emilevitt Legends were dope
Frizzlenill: I'M personally somewhat aggressive about disliking the variance of prizes and would rather they change card design a bit and use a point system instead, or maybe gaining prizes when you LOSE pokemon as an hp system instead, but all of those are more transformative
sarahparagon: legends gave us prize card mill, which remains my favourite meme deck to this day
emilevitt: i think i still have my darkrai/cresselia in a binder somewhere
GBT722: @Frizzlenill Suggestions on printing cards like Iono or N with a point system? As I think these are some of the best supporters ever printed.
emilevitt: umbreon prime my beloved
cattleprodlynn: Sad that they're still advertising Punt/Counterpunt when they haven't been able to film any more yet.
emilevitt:
Frizzlenill: stuff like Hisuian Heavy Ball is probably a nice middle ground
FurthestChunk: I should get around to picking up a copy of the mud bathing Paldean Wooper just, to have
GBT722: Yeah hisuian heavy ball was sweet I really wish something like that was a perenial effect
FurthestChunk: I love Wooper
BrowneePointz: I want a copy of the Art Poliwhirl cuz it’s super pretty
Anubis169:
Punt/Counterpunt is still available on the youtube channel cattleprodlynn 
it's not gone away
Frizzlenill: @GBT722 just invert the condition. Each player draws equal to their opponent's 'HP'.
GBT722: Ohhhhh sorry I missed the last part of your statement. My opp starts at "6 HP", I Ko somethign and they take "damage" equal to it's value, etc
emilevitt: slooooooooooooooowpoke
letsbelgo: ominite, sloooowpoke
emilevitt:
Aceviru:
emilevitt: digglet dig! digglet dig! trio trio trio
WitchyTQ: yay i get to catch some!
h3rsh3yb4r: how many gamblers?
Frizzlenill: @GBT722 btw have they become any more transparent about design stuff? Like, maybe not MaRo level but any improvements since I left?
EvilBadman: Combee my friend, I've got more to say And if we Dig-a-lett-le deeper, we can learn today
BrowneePointz: was this the first “meta” deck or the 2nd?
itsaysTRUENO: she's Electabuzz if you vote for her
totoromon01: "Can I go to the bathroom" looking ahh Ditto
WitchyTQ: ditto has big i frew up energy
Desruprot: I remember Chancy being fun
GBT722: @Frizzlenill If they have, I haven't paid attention to where they are with it. But i'll simp for TPC/TPCI R&D for years cause i've been so happy with card design in the SV era. I also was like... a high school kid when I played from 06-10 so I wasn't too tuned into the idea of transparent card design.
sarahparagon: it sadly had a poor matchup into stall too
Juliamon: adore this stupid frog Venusaur
GBT722: I got back into Pokemon simply because meta decks are like $80
RandomTrivia:
emilevitt:
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Frizzlenill: @GBT722 valid, I just really wanna hear reasoning on stuff whenever I can. For example, I wanna know what stuff in principle of THEIR pipeline that they changed to lead to a lot of the more holistic improvements that have come to pass in the last few years
itsaysTRUENO: staring into those old holographic cards was like a drugs to me as a kid
RandomTrivia: VenuCenter is like a freight train - it takes a while to get going and is incredibly difficult to stop once it has momentum
hiFunko: Pikachu, Punished
RandomTrivia: "Pikachu, Sparky Companion"
sarahparagon: Pokemon breeder is another functional errata like that too, where it’s now a supporter with a different effect
Desruprot: Ash's Pikachu
GBT722: @Frizzlenill My guess is it's really hard to get that for us in the west cause JP/SEA, etc. get the cards in advance? But that could just be a really lazy excuse honestly.
RandomTrivia: And more recently, the moves/abilities are used as signifiers
h3rsh3yb4r: "borborygmos that's in your deck"
Aceviru: Pikachu, the key to everything
Desruprot: Red's Pikachu
Hrrisn: Agreed!
FurthestChunk: Fushigidane...
RandomTrivia:
FurthestChunk: i love my cabbage frog
GBT722: @Frizzlenill Although I guess they talked about at a high level on how they were gonna change their design philosophy w/SV, so I guess really nothing would stop them.
doctoraddams: Bulbasaur, represent!
Laserbeaks_Fury: Theres a reason it's called the Bulbapedia
Hrrisn: They're like a toad dino thing with a stinky mushroom flower on top. whats not to love
PhoenixMelior: Totodile is best boy
RandomTrivia: A
Croc64: Tobadile
accountmadeforants: At least we can all agree Charizard is overrated
BrowneePointz: Typhlosion my beloved
Croc64: Fire apple crocodile
Croc64: Best babies
Statist42: i think the first time i didnt choose a water starter was rowlet. I was water all the way growing up
FurthestChunk: @Croc64 bias detected
doctoraddams: Feraligator was the only one I legit got to level 100 back in the day
James_LRR: Who's playing the Pikachu? I liek Pikachu.
Croc64: @FurthestChunk its spelled bisexual actually
AutonomousTurtle: @accountmadeforants Charmander being your favourite gen 1 starter is like mayonnaise being your favourite condiment.
Aceviru:
@James_LRR 
it james
evancoletcg: Cleffa is OP
itsaysTRUENO: "dominated by big basic" -Wheeler
FurthestChunk: i liked Charizard when it wasn't the mayonnaise Pokémon
evancoletcg: Strongest Pokemon ever printed
Juliamon: Babies sure were a choice
evancoletcg: Babies saved the game
GBT722: Old baby rule was... yeaaaaaaah
RandomTrivia: One of the design choices of all time
FurthestChunk: Eeeeeeeek!
BrowneePointz: I don’t have a fave type for starters
evancoletcg: There's a reason why Base-Gym is the worst format ever
Mrsodaking: Base Neo is honestly the worst format of all time and I love it so much
hiFunko: I hear that babies are out
Treehouse_1:
anyone know if the worlds twitch drops for pokemon live is done with? drops say until 24th but i don't see a stream with them enabled anymore 
emilevitt: justice for chikorita
emilevitt: my favorite starter
sarahparagon: Vietnam flashbacks to my last base-neo league.
emilevitt:
BrowneePointz: love meganium. chikorita not so much
Croc64: *Get they ass*
RandomTrivia:
To be fair, they did also say they loved it
Mrsodaking: monkaS
Omthebox: Dont worry I'm sure Wheeler is only 70% joking
evancoletcg: I like Base-Neo more when it has Slowking lol
A_Dub888: !vaselineorbarcode
LRRbot: Vaseline!
sarahparagon: base neo is the worst because base-neo hall of fame is amazing and makes the og format look worse in comparison lmao
h3rsh3yb4r: funnily enough it's the same person
h3rsh3yb4r: worlds most banned chatter?
Juliamon: My decision to have a favourite starter type lasted exactly one generation, I bailed on Bulbasaur instantly for Totodile lmao
BrowneePointz: no that was two different chatters
Hrrisn: basic 1 energy draw a card? hell yeah
Pywodwagon: someone in top 8 of worlds last weekend had all three copies of a basic they can’t win games without prized
Aceviru:
Sterosz: wow, blast from the past
Pywodwagon: it was poopy
A_Dub888: Electubuzzy
itsaysTRUENO: if you strike me down i will become more hyper-fixated than you can possibly imagine.
LRRbot: Grass Energy | Energy — Basic
devilcultivator: never seen slowking "mind games" is insane!!
BrowneePointz: oh god did they have 3 dreepy prized Pywo?
LRRbot: Bill | Trainer — Supporter | You can play only one Supporter card each turn. When you play this card, put it next to your Active Pokémon. When your turn ends, discard this card. / Draw 2 cards.
GBT722: Can you circumvent that rule with Breeder like you could with 00's Rare candy?
itsaysTRUENO: Bill doing stand-up in that card art
Mrsodaking: @BrowneePointz no 3 gimmighoul, but same idea
evancoletcg: Slowking is good because it slows down the game, but it also has plenty of counterplay
BrowneePointz: that’s funnier
evancoletcg: Igglybuff and Muk are both good answers to Slowking
GBT722: Ummmm judge! Please turn the card!
Sterosz: paralyze 1 turn stun
BrowneePointz: and confused was turned towards you?
FurthestChunk: Paralyse just clears eot
evancoletcg: Confusion has retreat rules in this era too
Aceviru: instructions unclear. putting lands in the front
sarahparagon: burn you check, but that doesn’t exist until gen 3
Hrrisn: Gen 5 is stinky
Sterosz: confused is upside down, yes
Hrrisn: scarf hydragon was good at the beginning of gen 9
itsaysTRUENO: @Aceviru placing my creatures directly on my lands "where else are they supposed to stand?"
BrowneePointz: Gen 5 poopy
Sterosz: i think paralyze was turn it right, but unsure
FurthestChunk: Gen 5 rips get outta here
LoadingReadyRun:
Kangaskhan being "The Parent Pokemon" seems self limiting. Come on Kangaskhan you have a life separate from your child!
wiigamer1995: are the playing old rules? like infinite "supporters"
evancoletcg: Theres a helpful pneumonic for the rotate conditions
Desruprot: Scyther, one of my favorite pokemon, before Dialga come about
FurthestChunk: The Emboar Defence Force has logged on
Sterosz: teach us evan
evancoletcg: It rotates counterclockwise alphabetically, so Asleep is left, Confused is down, Paralyzed is right
Aceviru: @itsaysTRUENO This broke my brain in half. That's so true
GBT722: @evancoletcg This is much more clear than I was attempting to explain hahaha
evancoletcg: ACP is how I remember it
devilcultivator: kangaskhan "the empty nest syndrome pokemon"
hd_dabnado:
the only bad generation was the one I never played
WitchyTQ: just say "my favourite is" not the best one is
IsSecretlyPaul: can we argue about akb48 gens?
Sterosz: @evancoletcg nice, easy to remember and I did remember right!
FurthestChunk: can we argue about transformers generations
frozenphoenix7: Actually, my best one is the one I played when I was 16 thanks.
PhoenixMelior: When i was 12 gen 3 came out
FurthestChunk: honestly i think my favourite right now might genuinely be SV
FurthestChunk: major problems but my favourite part of Pokémon is seeing the little guys out and about
LRRbot: Super Energy Removal | Trainer | Discard 1 Energy card attached to 1 of your own Pokémon in order to choose 1 of your opponent's Pokémon and up to 2 Energy cards attached to it. Discard those Energy cards.
evancoletcg: Second strongest card ever printed
Aceviru: ouphe
ztghostie: double stripmine baby
Aceviru: that's nuts
evancoletcg: Double Colorless Energy is the strongest card ever printed
Sterosz: what is no 1?
hd_dabnado: bulbasaur clearly
GBT722: Absolutely DCE
AtrusOfMyst: I love the eggs deck
Sterosz: makes sense
sarahparagon: Cleffa over dce imo
Armoric: Where does Prof Oak lie in that ranking?
GBT722: DCE across EVERY era it was printed in is dumb
evancoletcg: They printed a direct nerf of DCE, and it won every Worlds it was legal in (22, 23, 24)
Frizzlenill: @evancoletcg wasn't there a gamebreaking sableye and marshadow at some point too
evancoletcg: Cleffa is the strongest Pokemon ever printed
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FurthestChunk: @evancoletcg eek
LRRbot: Professor Oak | Trainer | Discard your hand, then draw 7 cards.
MommaGart: Super Energy Removal is so good because it can remove Double Colorless Energy
Mrsodaking: DCE was not standard last year, that was DTE 🤓👆
sarahparagon: Sneasel isn't even the strongest pokemon of it's era come on lmao
evancoletcg: Sableye SF is a good contender, it caused an emergency rotation with a rule change lol
GBT722: In Diamond/Pearl era, Double Rainbow finally rotated so we thought super fast GardyLade was dead, and then they reprinted DCE
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Croc64: @sarahparagon Mods-
GBT722: SF Sableye was hilarious
BrowneePointz: Ripples Mantine necessitated an errata don’t forget
Anubis169: you rang?
PhoenixMelior: question - because of the prizes do you have to play a minimum of 7 basic pokes in your deck? Or nah?
wiigamer1995: the last reprint of DCE was Sun and Moon how did wheeler play it last year in standard
Armoric: Did they errata Bill when the supporters were introduced?
evancoletcg: @BrowneePointz Are you sure that isn't a different card? There is no Mantine with Ripples
wiigamer1995:
FurthestChunk: damn wasted an SER
Frizzlenill: @PhoenixMelior nope! If you lose your active and have no pokemon to replace it, you just lose immediately
Anubis169: Croc64 what needs attending to?
Croc64: @PhoenixMelior You prize after keeping a hand with a basic, so nah
itswhisperlol: @PhoenixMelior you auto lose if you have no bench pokemon when one is knocked out
BrowneePointz: it probably is @evancoletcg
PhoenixMelior: Ahhhh thank you chat and wheeler
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FurthestChunk: @Anubis169 Croc was doing a goof
Simbionis: there was 4 in the tcg 2024 worlds winner
Mrsodaking: The lowest amount of basic pokemon you’re allowed is 1
Pywodwagon: last year worlds was won by a deck running 4
GBT722: I uh... may or may not have played a deck with 1 basic during the SP era. It wasn't good by any stretch of the imagintation
hd_dabnado:
@Croc64 just doesnt like getting bullied 
BrowneePointz: wait no Team Rocket Returns Mantine @evancoletcg
Anubis169 goes back to lurking 
Frizzlenill: @evancoletcg also the marshadow that judges you, maybe not the MOST broken, but certainly one of the most unfun-ness inducing aside from the fake-translation slowking
AtrusOfMyst: Should it have been called "Magma Cranking?"
Croc64: @FurthestChunk Doing the simpsons scene with the bart prank call where I accidentally get the person with the name and go "I didn't think I'd get this far and I'd like to abort"
LRRbot: Energy Retrieval | Trainer — Item | Put up to 2 Basic Energy cards from your discard pile into your hand. / You may play any number of Item cards during your turn.
sarahparagon: @Anubis169 I was just disrespecting one of Croc's favourite pokemon lol. Don't worry, she'll probably ban me in the rodeo for it
evancoletcg: @BrowneePointz Ohhhhhhh
emilevitt: i love the pokemon tcg for the fact that pokemon that arent meta staples in the games actually have a chance to be in the spotlight
wiigamer1995: junk hunt saybeley
evancoletcg: Sableye was a result of a rule change though!
wiigamer1995: monka
evancoletcg: Not Junk Hunt
h3rsh3yb4r: wonder guard sableye
GBT722: You're thinking of two different savleyes
Frizzlenill: sableye was an FTK thing
GBT722: Sableyes
Simbionis: Isn't there also the sableye that lets you go first?
evancoletcg: When Sableye was printed, the rules made it balanced
wiigamer1995: oh seeker saybeley donk
GBT722: Junk Hunt was Black/White Sableye
evancoletcg: It let you go first but you couldnt do anything op going first
RandomTrivia: I mean, Junk Arm Sableye *was* busted though
emilevitt:
like sableye and wigglytuff 
GBT722: FTK rule change Sableye was Diamond/Pearl
evancoletcg: @Frizzlenill Fwiw that wasnt even the first time Let Loose was printed.
Mrsodaking: Any Trump Card enjoyers?
sarahparagon: @evancoletcg I *mean* was it though even then? It was more balanced for sure, but
FurthestChunk: shoutouts to dark vileplume for making both players miserable
evancoletcg: I think marshadow is a little overrated personally
itsaysTRUENO: the 16:9 card art is so classy
cmdrud87: uuh, you got the nostalgic first gen cards
Frizzlenill:
@evancoletcg hoo boy
Croc64: anyway ducktales has been successfully resleeved lmao
FurthestChunk: @Croc64 woo-oo
Mrsodaking: Marshadow was just a good card
Croc64: worst deck on television fr
Frizzlenill: @evancoletcg oh almost certainly as a result of it FEELING worse to play against than it ACTUALLY is
itsaysTRUENO: where did this commemorative State of Wyoming coin come from lmao
Frizzlenill: 'the opponent gets to play 11 cards while I get 4!'
BrowneePointz: but yea TRR Mantine caused a rules errata because as written Ripples could be used on the bench, allowing up to 40 damage healed per turn rotation
evancoletcg: @sarahparagon I don't have problems with Sableye. Its ability to take donks requires so much deck commitment and it isnt terribly consistent
evancoletcg: Sableye also wasnt /that/ common
emilevitt: chonky man
RandomTrivia: Lorge plant frog is here
evancoletcg: Most decks dont play it
emilevitt:
FurthestChunk: @itsaysTRUENO Wyoming
evancoletcg: nice keyboard kid reference btw
evancoletcg: @BrowneePointz Yeah gen 3 had a lotttt of eratta
evancoletcg: They had a bit of difficulties translating cards in the earlier days
BrowneePointz: but yea it was a major issue cuz iirc that Mantine saw a LOT of tournament play because of it
BrowneePointz: it beat my ass out of top 4 at Cities that I remember
Croc64: Unfortunately I can't find my old psychic energies so I have like 6 og water energies and then 7 random new frame psychic energies and I hate it
evancoletcg: Marill SS had an error where some of them were printed with no retreat cost. It was ruled to play as printed, so if you owned the error Marill, you owned the only free retreating basic Pokemon in the ENTIRE gen 3 ex era
FurthestChunk: @Croc64 fucked up tbh
Simbionis: @evancoletcg Oh jesus
Croc64: LMAO
Croc64: Bet
FurthestChunk: finally getting paid for modding Ben's channel
LRRbot: Professor Oak | Trainer | Discard your hand, then draw 7 cards.
BrowneePointz: my biggest regret is still placing 9th at Regionals when top 8 went to Worlds. and I had my dad drive us to Wisconsin for the weekend too
LRRbot: Item Finder | Trainer | Discard 2 of the other cards from your hand in order to put a Trainer card from your discard pile into your hand.
Simbionis: @BrowneePointz nooooooo#
LRRbot: Bill | Trainer — Supporter | You can play only one Supporter card each turn. When you play this card, put it next to your Active Pokémon. When your turn ends, discard this card. / Draw 2 cards.
TheAwkes: The roundabout faithless looting.
sarahparagon: @evancoletcg Fair, sabledonk just terrified younger me when it was legal lol
LRRbot: Energy Removal | Trainer | Choose 1 Energy card attached to 1 of your opponent's Pokémon and discard it.
LoadingReadyRun:
I know there are digital PTCG games, but have they ever made a mainline-style RPG pokemon videogame with matches that are more like the TCG?
itsaysTRUENO: yugioh benefits from new printing techniques that allows text to be printed as small as 10 atoms tall
Aceviru: @BrowneePointz Sounds like you had a great dad tho.
Frizzlenill: @LoadingReadyRun the game boy games!
evancoletcg: @BrowneePointz My friend who lives down the street won that regionals lol
Frizzlenill: wheeler played them early in Is This Your Card
evancoletcg: You should totally hop onto online retro circles, tons of old players who still play those formats
FurthestChunk: @LoadingReadyRun The game boy TCG games weren't quite RPG-y but that's the best you got
Croc64: @Frizzlenill banger streams tbh
r10pez10: my pokeymans let me show u them
BrowneePointz: I’m not sure Paul. the Pokemon tcg already kinda plays like the games?
FurthestChunk: they're so fat (positive connotation)
Frizzlenill: also is this the place where I can kvetch about how ptcg Live has been constantly given the short end of the stick despite their fantastic fully f2p model while Pocket gets all the budget they want because gambling
BrowneePointz: @evancoletcg this would’ve been Madison …2003? 2002? my memory is a bit faded
sarahparagon: @Frizzlenill yeag, it sucks
FurthestChunk: Oh that Buzz is a corpse
evancoletcg: @BrowneePointz 2005 was the first year they had Regionals
BrowneePointz: and I was in Junior Division
BrowneePointz: yes that would be 8th grade
FurthestChunk: Electabuzz lying in the Yamcha crater
BrowneePointz: I’m bad at math @evancoletcg
evancoletcg: It was 20 years ago youre good haha
Aceviru: It's called the stick, Paul
evancoletcg: Pooka recently tweeted his decklist from that 2005 Wisconsin regionals, go find his post if you want a big nostalgia hit. He talks a bit about the experience and the meta at the time
Dastar512: Electabuzz, use Dundapunch!
GBT722: Electabuzz and Guzzlord top 2 anime pokemon cries
Frizzlenill: wire ben up with an electroshock wire
sarahparagon: Funnily enough evolutions chansey is actually a strictly worse reprint lmao. (Same card bit with a 3 retreat cost instead)
totoromon01: Elect-A-Button, buy now!
emilevitt: if you wanna hear something pretty great listen to to guzzlords anime screams
LRRbot: Super Energy Removal | Trainer | Discard 1 Energy card attached to 1 of your own Pokémon in order to choose 1 of your opponent's Pokémon and up to 2 Energy cards attached to it. Discard those Energy cards.
emilevitt:
FurthestChunk: @GBT722 Sleeping on the Regis
LoadingReadyRun:
It would be interesting to have a modern pokemon game that incorporates some of the TCG elements, like energy, deck building trainers, etc
Mr_Horrible: this is how we finally get the Wheeler Shock Collar Stream
evancoletcg: @LoadingReadyRun Thats very interesting
Mrsodaking: It’s funny how Chansey has a respectable hp even for a modern basic
FurthestChunk: Regirock going ün ün ün lives in my head rent free
Hrrisn: That's up there with that Mammoth card from Yugioh that sounds like Schwarzenegger
BrowneePointz: but yea I’m just a chat dork, but for the Bens I’d totally be here for Base Neo and EX Era weeks even if you have to proxy the EX stuff cuz price
Frizzlenill: @LoadingReadyRun with Pocket, I'd say don't hold your breath
Simbionis: @Hrrisn Oh the Crystal Beast one yeah
Invitare: @GBT722 Surskit and Dracovish are strong contenders
Mrsodaking: @BrowneePointz Proxy? Just buy some Umbreon gold stars
evancoletcg: @Mrsodaking At least that had a CEL print
devilcultivator: never asked myself this but like what is eletrabuzz? like is he based on something i'm missing? or is he just like bigfoot with lightning powers
evancoletcg: I think its a tiger
LRRbot: Energy Retrieval | Trainer — Item | Put up to 2 Basic Energy cards from your discard pile into your hand. / You may play any number of Item cards during your turn.
FurthestChunk: if we want the first five hour Pokémon stream we could do Base-Rocket Dark Vileplume mirrors
evancoletcg: Electivire is definitely some kind of cat
devilcultivator: okay
FurthestChunk: Elekid is a plug with a face
evancoletcg: Those coin flips sound like they hurt
Frizzlenill: it's amazing how after the supporter-item split, the item side got SO much more broken over time while supporters kinda were already there
Croc64: I believe in the doduo sweep
sarahparagon: Doduo is basically the proto scyther
BrowneePointz: all the Regis have hilarious anime voices, and Bewear has an INCREDIBLE scream
LRRbot: Scoop Up | Trainer | Choose 1 of your Pokémon in play and return its Basic Pokémon card to your hand. (Discard all cards attached to that card.)
Mrsodaking: If we’re doing more retro pokemon, can you do a stream of ADPZ-mirrors?
KorrenTheNinth: Just got here and I want to shout out the overlay for answering all my questions without having to ask
Aceviru: Haha
LRRbot: Pokémon Trader | Trainer | Trade 1 of the Basic Pokémon or Evolution cards in your hand for 1 of the Basic Pokémon or Evolution cards from your deck. Show both cards to your opponent. Shuffle your deck afterward.
ContingentCat: !vaselineorbarcode
LRRbot: Barcode!
BrowneePointz: we need to get yall one of the old plastic coins!
Frizzlenill: @Mrsodaking is ADP 'retro'? Oh god 2019 was 6 years ago. (also at least Lugia mirrors are interesting lul)
evancoletcg: @Mrsodaking I'll stream it
LoadingReadyRun:
@KorrenTheNinth 
Aceviru: Gotta keep it as physical as possible
BrowneePointz: like the old silver Lugia coin!
LoadingReadyRun:
All these formats are called "Base-x". Has the "Base" set stayed pretty consistent over the years?
Frizzlenill: @LoadingReadyRun it's just meaning "From base set to X"
Juliamon: Base was the first set
MommaGart: Base set is like Alpha, so it was legal until a BUNCH of sets got rotated out
A_Dub888: uh ohhhh, scrunchieeeees
Frizzlenill: some people play the standard formats like the post-neo standard iirc
Mrsodaking: The first rotation format is called Rocket-on
Mrsodaking: And its terrible!
evancoletcg: @LoadingReadyRun Base Set has not been legal since 2003
evancoletcg: Rocket-on is alright
Frizzlenill: Lugia mirrors perhaps?
itsaysTRUENO: Electabuzz looks like a cat and a chimp and Wario went into the machine from The Fly
Spades_Slicc: does pokemon have a "Ruin your Evening" deck?
Frizzlenill: @Spades_Slicc literally every format has one
Frizzlenill: that's maybe an overstatement
evancoletcg: @LoadingReadyRun The first World Championships with 2004, since then the most popular retro formats are almost always the ones that were played at worlds, so they are often referred to by their year. i.e. Expedition-Hidden Legend is usually just called "2004 Worlds"
evancoletcg: For example, 2010 Worlds (Diamond and Pearl-Unleashed) is one of the most popular retro formats out there
LoadingReadyRun: ah ok. Is there a new "base" set now, like MtG has the "Core" sets (or Foundations)?
LRRbot: Bill | Trainer — Supporter | You can play only one Supporter card each turn. When you play this card, put it next to your Active Pokémon. When your turn ends, discard this card. / Draw 2 cards.
Mrsodaking: Each generation gets their own ”base” set introducing the new mechanic of the era. So kind of
ToppHat: Bill is the pokemon version of Paul
Heleor: Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill!
evancoletcg: @LoadingReadyRun There is not. However, the current Standard format is actually the entire Scarlet and Violet block. It consists of all (12?) Scarlet and Violet-themed expansions goinng back to 2023
RandomTrivia: Bill of "Bill's PC"
Aceviru: He's like the Paul of the games
Frizzlenill: @LoadingReadyRun nowadays, every year starts with a set + rotation around march or april, and every set of that year shares that year's set code (a letter). From then, it's Main Set - Side Set - repeat.
ztghostie: and then build a whole ass time machine in gen 2
CrossXhunteR: he turns your pokemon into digimon
Kentosaurus: oh yeah
ztghostie: *builds
RandomTrivia:
vinopinguino:
He's the Elon Musk of the Pokémon world 
evancoletcg: I think its SS Aqua in gen 2
itsaysTRUENO: Wheeler talking about pokemon like its wine is gonna kill me lmao
Mr_Horrible: the SS Anne is a cruise ship, ergo probably not a place you want to be
RandomTrivia: @vinopinguino Except Bill actually makes things and they're useful
FurthestChunk: Yeah no Bill is good
PhoenixMelior: Gambling? I'm in!
TheTekkieman: Does Bill give you the ticket for the train between Johto and Kanto so you don't have to go the long way?
LRRbot: Professor Oak | Trainer | Discard your hand, then draw 7 cards.
FurthestChunk: @TheTekkieman No you get it from Copycat once you return her doll
evancoletcg: @TheTekkieman I think you get the ticket after turning on the electricity
CrossXhunteR: hell of a draw
FurthestChunk: After fixing the electricity yeah
RandomTrivia:
RandomTrivia: The coin giveth, the coin taketh away
Croc64: RIP lmao
Spades_Slicc: The coin always flips
RandomTrivia: Wheeler "gets" to walk something directly into the path of a Solarbeam
PhoenixMelior:
Croc64: Skill based matchmaking real
evancoletcg: That was probably your best play
Heleor: It's like bogles!
evancoletcg: This matchup is super difficult after the venusaur is setup
RandomTrivia: Sadly that was almost certainly the correct play. That's Pokemon!
FurthestChunk: Man is the sun up because this venusaur is spamming solar beams
Oxdans: what is television?
Aceviru: Hey, we had 4 tails in a row. This has been a banging episode
PhoenixMelior: Our Bens, they are inside the TV
Frizzlenill: I'm honestly quite glad that coin flips are MOSTLY phased out of at least the competitive-aimed cards by this point, although I still have my gripes with prizing rules
RandomTrivia: Here it is! He's doing the thing!
LRRbot: Pokémon Center | Trainer — Stadium | Once during each player's turn, that player may heal 20 damage from 1 of his or her Benched Pokémon. / This card stays in play when you play it. Discard this card if another Stadium card comes into play. If another card with the same name is in play, you can't play this card.
Pywodwagon: crazy way to learn that Ulmer is the protagonist
sarahparagon: Wait I missed out on some explosions? damn, loved that deck
RandomTrivia:
BrowneePointz: a series of tubes @oxdans
Aceviru: Rip
MommaGart: WOOOO!
PhoenixMelior: Wow that's absurd
RandomTrivia: It's two Scythers of HP that just healed
itsaysTRUENO: ohh yeah tucking my energies, that's what I call it too
FurthestChunk: @sarahparagon You missed Ben getting 4/4 tails on a big eggsplosion
LRRbot: Energy Retrieval | Trainer — Item | Put up to 2 Basic Energy cards from your discard pile into your hand. / You may play any number of Item cards during your turn.
Oxdans:
@BrowneePointz 
BrowneePointz: they got better at balancing pokepowers I promise chat lol
sarahparagon: @FurthestChunk Could've been worse, once only succeeded at 3/14 in a match vs a wigglytuff deck a couple years ago lmao
FurthestChunk: That's a good solar beam
RandomTrivia: Top tier foley right there
itsaysTRUENO: They're eyeing each other warily.
silenceaux: Good rendition. Why did OG pokemon have so many high pitched sound effects
LRRbot: Gust of Wind | Trainer | Choose 1 of your opponent's Benched Pokémon and switch it with his or her Active Pokémon.
vinopinguino: Venusaur supremacy!
RandomTrivia: BAHAHAHAHA
devilcultivator: after "electabuzz is a cat" has blown my mind i'm just questioning all Gen one designs i accepted as a kid. like magmar is also weird
Aceviru: haha
RandomTrivia:
The revenge slap
Mrsodaking:
They are about to reprint this exact venusaur into Standard in like 3 weeks, except it has 380hp instead 
Simbionis: from hells heart
Aceviru: go down swinging
Mr_Horrible: "No, I said GAS up my bulbasaur! C'mon!"
FurthestChunk: One of my favourite parts of modern Pokémon is how they layer in the old gen 1 sound effects for some moves
BrowneePointz: look Magmar’s other actual name is Boober. it’s delightfully silly
CrossXhunteR: 2nd break? or only the single break?
wiigamer1995: egg
FurthestChunk: egg!
PhoenixMelior: Yes Magmar in German is Boober
wiigamer1995: thats not true
wiigamer1995:
PhoenixMelior: I dont make this stuff up
sarahparagon: Oh, my literal old design for eggs? damn never knew that lol
devilcultivator: i refuse to radically question chancy's design. an egg with a face and limbs carrying a different egg in a kangeroo pouch...no notes 11/10
BrowneePointz: Magmar’s JAPANESE name is Boober
BrowneePointz: cuz of the bird
evancoletcg: @devilcultivator But have you considered also giving her a skirt and hair poof?
sarahparagon: At least I think I started the ghost eggs lists back in the 99 server 5 years ago lol, most others were electrode eggs
PhoenixMelior: Snorlax, also known as Relaxo
devilcultivator: @evancoletcg yes blissy was an attempt to improve perfection without ruining the original
evancoletcg: @devilcultivator And she is my queen
evancoletcg: Look at my profile pic lol
BrowneePointz: you know what design improves perfection without ruining the original?
devilcultivator: now hoppiny...not as good
BrowneePointz: Mega Dragonite
PhoenixMelior: Patreon dot com slash loadingreadyrun?
PhoenixMelior: Oh. I dont agree with that
BrowneePointz: I s2g if we don’t get Mega Flygon AGAIN I might actually cry
FurthestChunk: The literal only mega I want is Porygon-Z
PhoenixMelior: I might have to wait on ZA if the switch 1 performance is bad
evancoletcg: I want Mega Bonsly
MrBibz: Considering the mega dragonite we got is literally Every Fanmade Mega Dragonite we better get Flygon, no more "we couldn't think of a design" nonsense
BrowneePointz: although I do find it hilarious the reason we never got MegaFly is because, and the designers said, “the design is so perfect. We didn’t know where to go with it“
FurthestChunk: i am fine without mega flygon but i am a registered Hoenn hater
BrowneePointz: Flygon too Dank since 2003(4?)
nyoomgoom: @BrowneePointz they're correct, but also, alas...
nyoomgoom: imo mega flygon should have two things: 1. extra pair of wings for dragonflyesqueness, 2. deedlyboppers on the antennae
BrowneePointz: or a full visor
BrowneePointz: instead of goggles
Spinballwizard: @nyoomgoom 3. Be Bug/Dragon
nyoomgoom: full visor and deedlyboppers thumbs up
nyoomgoom: @Spinballwizard 100% on board
BrowneePointz: if they make it bug/dragon with a cracked ability I will laugh
PhoenixMelior: I like totodile.
Aceviru: is good mon
AFamiliarCalledEl: And totodile likes you
FurthestChunk: good croc
PhoenixMelior: I have a totodile tattoo
Aceviru:
Spinballwizard: Totodile FTW
BrowneePointz: I also hope we get Kalosian forms of the starters and not just megas
FurthestChunk: kalosian emboar that is still just fire/fighting
FurthestChunk: just weirdly french
BrowneePointz: I feel that’s not fair to Meganium Feraligatr and Emboar if they don’t get new ones like typh samurott decid
FurthestChunk: i mean emboar deserves something good i just can see what the funniest option is
nyoomgoom: fighting/fire instead of fire/fighting
PhoenixMelior: Wheeler spittin
TheAinMAP:
EvilBadman: Eggs (the Sploion)
sarahparagon: Since I missed it, psy eggs, ghost eggs, or some other type of eggs?
FurthestChunk: There was mime and gastly
evancoletcg: 30-60 minutes is reasonable
sarahparagon: Old wotc formats are super long lol
CrossXhunteR: spend some time on your first search to determine your 6 prizes
evancoletcg: Magic games are way faster
BrowneePointz: older formats go longer
BrowneePointz: newer formats can be LIGHTNING fast
Mr_Horrible: betrayed by mime
RandomTrivia:
RandomTrivia:
Literally untouchable
CrossXhunteR: it bothers me a little that it reports legnth and not height
BrowneePointz: can only be chipped
Mr_Horrible: dunemd
sarahparagon: @FurthestChunk So psy eggs is my name for the list on jklacz's website, with a box of mime, gastly, mewtwo and chansey, ghost eggs was my previous builds of the deck running haunters instead of the toolbox, and then I've also seen like dodrio eggs, venu eggs, etc
BrowneePointz: the slow knife penetrates the Mime
Aceviru: Bill Bill Bill Bill
Samurai_bill: Love that guy
sarahparagon: I may have played a bunch of eggs decks over the past half-decade lmao
Mr_Horrible: Benjamin Wheeljamin
FurthestChunk: what's good for the Ben is good for the Benjamin
morgoth_bauglyr: Benjamin Wheelmer
PhoenixMelior: I want that on a button
r10pez10: guys i think this was his card
sarahparagon: There's no optional mulligans in pokemon
wiigamer1995: !card professor research
LRRbot: Can't find any card by that name
BrowneePointz: there’s gotta be a sOaking joke
darkpks2: that was my biggest fault with the game. That and weaknesses built into cards..
devilcultivator: does oak make a terrible hand good? cause you can bin all the trash for a new one sounds like all upside
darkpks2: power creep is horrible ion this game too
sarahparagon: Though I think pocket has generated hands? I can't remember on that one
ajymx5: your opponent draws for every mul you take too in the newer version idk if it's like that in the old days
Aceviru: Can't wait for the Kaiba v Yugi og deck episode of ITYC
Armoric: Part of the gameboy PTCG soeedrun is only having one basic so you mull until you hit it
evancoletcg: That is a VERY sneaky attack
RandomTrivia:
Aceviru: lol
FurthestChunk: This card is so fucked
evancoletcg: And you thought Lass was strong
BrowneePointz: good old hand attack
FurthestChunk: Casual free Duress nbd
evancoletcg: Another reason Cleffa saved the game
evancoletcg: Sneak Attack is downright unplayable in a format with Cleffa
Mr_Horrible: but there's switch 2 now, Wheeler
the_brainfist: The OG Luigi stare
Mr_Horrible: very "Ralph and Sam clock in" energy
sarahparagon: @evancoletcg Sneak attack and trap, and imposter oak's revenge were absolutely absurd to all be together
evancoletcg: Absolutely
evancoletcg: Imposter Oak is a fun card
Mr_Horrible: @sarahparagon learning that there is a card called "Imposter Oak's Revenge" is some incredible stuff
CrossXhunteR: ever use dragonshield non-glare sleeves?
BrowneePointz: cuz there’s an Imposter Prof Oak
FurthestChunk: !pokemon impostor oak's revenge
LRRbot: Can't find any card by that name
sarahparagon: (For those not aware, imposter oak's revenge forced your opponent into a new hand of 4, and rocket's trap let you remove up to 3 cards from their hand at random with coinflips)
FurthestChunk: Oh right it's the one they typod
ZiyeInverse: YO PEAK
RandomTrivia: WOOF
FurthestChunk: !pokemon imposter oak's revenge
LRRbot: Imposter Oak's Revenge | Trainer | Discard a card from your hand in order to play this card. Your opponent shuffles his or her hand into his or her deck, then draws 4 cards.
LoadingReadyRun:
Bill and Oak get a lot of screen time in these matches
Mr_Horrible: they're just honest trainers
sarahparagon: @FurthestChunk And you could play all three together in the same turn, on the first turn of the game if you were lucky lmao
evancoletcg: Mr. Fuji will have his chance to shine
Armoric: !card eggecutor
LRRbot: Can't find any card by that name
Aceviru: Is there a set you completely collected?
Armoric: !pokemon exeggutor
LRRbot: Found 45 cards you could be referring to - please enter more of the name
RandomTrivia:
sarahparagon: @Aceviru If this is at the chat, almost at full playset of base-fossil, just missing a few extra zards and some other assorted cards.
Krat_Arona: Hey chat, how does that Trainer card on Ben's side work? Is it a placeholder for a mon or is it actually in the active slot?
Aceviru: oh no
RandomTrivia: @Krat_Arona It's pretending to be a Scyther
LoadingReadyRun:
The Switch card art also reminds me of the Megaman boss introductions
Mr_Horrible:
I think all queens are neato 
sarahparagon: @Krat_Arona It's a placeholder for a scyther
evancoletcg: @Krat_Arona scyther placeholder
wiigamer1995: build boyfriends ehh hm
Krat_Arona: Oooooh okay, thanks all!
Aceviru:
@sarahparagon Of course! Everyone's collections are invited
CrossXhunteR: does the coin have to be caught for a legal flip?
Heleor: "how
Heleor: "how'd you get those scars
evancoletcg: @CrossXhunteR most people use dice actually
hd_dabnado: that State got hands
Mr_Horrible: working on your pokemon calluses
CrossXhunteR: i now understand why they include dice as their coins in modern packages
BrowneePointz: or a stadium or something
wiigamer1995: im suprised they arent using dice for coin flips
Mr_Horrible: if there's one thing LRR does, it's commit to the bit
hd_dabnado: lot of people use coin flip apps
A_Dub888: !findquote commit
LRRbot: Quote #6308: "What do I need to do here to commit treason?" —Jacob [2019-08-12]
BrowneePointz: we gotta get some of the old starter deck plastic coins
CrossXhunteR: yeah, they put those in the big ol pokemon card packages, that come with like a deck, a deckbox, dice, and other knick knacks
evancoletcg: they have officially dice with a pikachu's face for evens and pikachu tail for odds
wiigamer1995: everyone used dice when i played
Mr_Horrible: I think the very few times I played back in the day, I had the plastic coins Brownee's talking about
jwholla: retro pokemon? be still my heart
BrowneePointz: or the silver lugia one
Mr_Horrible: although we also might've just used, like, a nickel
arbysgaming38: i have so many pokemon tcg coins from like 2008-2016 somewhere
BrowneePointz: I don’t remember who all were on the coins
Armoric: Is eggs about resource denial while building up a fat exeggutor and then just sweeping through the opposing Pokemons who don't have enough energy to attack back?
jwholla: i spent so much time on the game boy color version
realbadatthis_: @Mr_Horrible It was close enough in time at release that my friendgroup just flipped pogs
FurthestChunk: my discord icon is the psyduck coin from GB2 because it is the vibe I post with
Mr_Horrible: @realbadatthis_ sick
schordash: you know, pokemon is a lot like chess 🗿
FurthestChunk: i just imagine the psyduck seeing the shit I say and having a bigger and bigger migraine
ZiyeInverse: BARS
ContingentCat: in this age it's good to remember sometimes the best thing to do is just not
schordash:
sarahparagon: Regarding chaos orbs type cards btw, I think Imakuni?'s cards were probably the closest, though never legal
Mr_Horrible: this is the beginning of Wheeler's chiptune career
schordash:
Arakasi01: Would not be upset if that music was just casually playing in the stream background
Scarbble: good boopa scoopas right now
ContingentCat:
aug_med:
AutonomousTurtle: Ben-jazz-man Wheeler
ZiyeInverse: @sarahparagon THAT'S RIGHT! I forgot Imakuni's Doduo literally told you to fling it
sarahparagon: Yeag lmao
sarahparagon: !pokemon Imakuni?'s Doduo
LRRbot: Imakuni?'s Doduo (EVO 112) | Pokémon {Colorless} [50HP] — Basic | (This card cannot be used at official tournaments.) | [Pokémon Power] Frenzied Escape: When this Doduo retreats, hold this card and throw it as hard as you can because Doduo is running away. Throw the card horizontally with a snap to get the farthest distance! / {2} Harmonize (30): From the moment you use this attack, you must begin to sing a song. (While the song is being sung, the game continues.) When…
Mr_Horrible: 1 donnybrook energy
schordash:
schordash: you trying to summon paul?
BrowneePointz: oh Phanpy Boy! The pipes the pipes are calling…
silenceaux: I'm willing to believe that joke / song reference is genius even if I don't get it.
schordash:
it worked!
ZiyeInverse: peak
CrossXhunteR: layers
schordash:
sarahparagon: day friendship I think?
Heleor: sun stone?
Heleor: or was that just arceus being weird
sarahparagon: Huh, litterally just at lv 25
Statist42: its very late over here so might totaly be wrong: shouldnt egg be at 40 dmg? 10 + 30 since wheeler lost the flip?
Manitu_25: is there a pokemon format where you can play something on your opponents turn?
LithelyUnshod: Cherubi just evolves at lvl 25
RandomTrivia: B I G E G G
Aceviru: haha
ZiyeInverse: egg ftw
evancoletcg: @Manitu_25 Yes. Power Spray is the only card that can be played on the opponent's turn
evancoletcg: Power Spray was released in Platinum and is legal in 2009 Worlds and 2010 Worlds
A_Dub888: !findquote egg
LRRbot: Quote #8841: "I can't use my god hands on that egg!" —Ian [2023-11-17]
Armoric: !pokemon power spray
LRRbot: Team Galactic's Invention G-103 Power Spray | Trainer — Item | You may play this card during your opponent's turn when your opponent's Pokémon uses any Poké-Power. Prevent all effects of that Poké-Power. (This counts as that Pokémon using its Poké-Power.) If you have 2 or less Pokémon SP in play, you can't play this card.
evancoletcg: Alakazam MT had a similar effect as a Poke Power that could be acivated on the opponent's turn
sarahparagon: @evancoletcg Always kinda funny that pokemon made one hand trap and then decided never again
r10pez10: loving the card names
evancoletcg: @sarahparagon I must respect it I fear
evancoletcg: Power Spray is cool, and I don't see a reason to bring it back anytime soon
sarahparagon: Oh it's absolutely for the best lmao
Sleepy__Alice: i turned on the gbc ost and it just feels so right
ZiyeInverse: DPP era was so fun
evancoletcg: Its not too late!!!!
CrossXhunteR: it was linked a bit above
CrossXhunteR: by lrrbot
wiigamer1995: !pokemon power spray
LRRbot: Team Galactic's Invention G-103 Power Spray | Trainer — Item | You may play this card during your opponent's turn when your opponent's Pokémon uses any Poké-Power. Prevent all effects of that Poké-Power. (This counts as that Pokémon using its Poké-Power.) If you have 2 or less Pokémon SP in play, you can't play this card.
Armoric: @evancoletcg Did it brick entire turns when used right?
evancoletcg: @Armoric Sometimes
personguy101: any plans on doing riftbound when that releases
evancoletcg: Uxie LA was a common card that ytou could spray to ruin an entire game
sarahparagon: Yeah, denying the free draw 7 was huge
ZiyeInverse: getting Claydol negated was bad too
evancoletcg: But usually Power Spray is saved for powerful Powers like Bright Look or Healing Breath
evancoletcg: Claydol being a once-per-turn effect is a big reason Spray isnt broken
sarahparagon: Uxie was the first, and absoluley the strongest
evancoletcg: !pokemon Claydol GE
LRRbot: Claydol (GE 15) | Pokémon {Fighting} [80HP] — Stage 1 [evolves from: Baltoy] | [Poké-Power] Cosmic Power: Once during your turn (before your attack), you may choose up to 2 cards from your hand and put them on the bottom of your deck in any order. If you do, draw cards until you have 6 cards in your hand. This power can't be used if Claydol is affected by a Special Condition. / {1F} Spinning Attack (40) | weak: Grass+20 | retreat: {2}
sarahparagon: !pokemon Uxie LA
LRRbot: Uxie (LA 43) | Pokémon {Psychic} [70HP] — Basic | [Poké-Power] Set Up: Once during your turn, when you put Uxie from your hand onto your Bench, you may draw cards until you have 7 cards in your hand. / {1} Psychic Restore (20): You may put Uxie and all cards attached to it on the bottom of your deck in any order. | weak: Psychic+20 | retreat: {1}
evancoletcg: Cosmic Power is one of the strongest Powers ever printed
evancoletcg: @sarahparagon Uxie was not the strongest imo
r10pez10: brandon uxie?
evancoletcg: Shaymin EX is the strongest, because it has Ultra Ball alongside it
Simbionis: Man that Shaymin
evancoletcg: Uxie's format did not have cards that discard from hand, so you can have a dead hand full of cards that Uxie cant bail you out of
RandomTrivia: WOOF that was a heck of a turn
sarahparagon: @evancoletcg Meant in terms of pure draw power, shaymin is absolutely the better card
sarahparagon: esp in its format
Krat_Arona: Wow, that was a hell of a turn
RandomTrivia: Literally any Scoop Up play feels great
evancoletcg: Shaymin did get banned
wiigamer1995:
pokemon rarely bans in standard
evancoletcg: But they eventually banned Scoop Up Net, which is the cad that made them ban Shaymin
Omthebox: Frumpy old man Mewtwo is my favorite
FurthestChunk: Did you know that on like, Battlefield, Mewtwo can drag people through the stage in Melee?
Aceviru:
ZiyeInverse: smol eggsplosion
RandomTrivia: The eggs are not happy today
letsbelgo:
sarahparagon: But like if I ever played an unlimited format, I'd be playing uxies over shaymins imo
Omthebox: Anyone got a heads to tails count on the eggsplosions
FurthestChunk: sarah send this man some eggnergy
evancoletcg: @sarahparagon Thats fair. I personally do not value a card's strength on how it performs in Unlimited, though.
evancoletcg: Unlimited is barely Pokemon let's be real
evancoletcg: Pokemon unlimited is wayyyy less balanced than Magic Vintage
Armoric: !pokemon lass
LRRbot: Lass | Trainer | You and your opponent show each other your hands, then shuffle all the Trainer cards from your hands into your decks.
FurthestChunk: are we pitching things instead of shuffling with lass again
ArcKay9:
That lass went to the wrong discard
Programmerman1: always
Aceviru: ^
sarahparagon: @FurthestChunk Chunk, my most memorable eggs play is missing 11/14 eggs flips lmao, I am not the one you want sending support
evancoletcg: Lass shuffles
Aceviru: Haha
ZiyeInverse: SLICK
r10pez10: brutal, sarah
sarahparagon: @evancoletcg Fair lol
Krat_Arona: Natural 20 Slight of Hand Check
ArcKay9: perfect resolution for the card
RandomTrivia:
The muscle memory from Magic really getting them here
evancoletcg: Lass to avoid deckout is a real strategy in this format
FurthestChunk: @sarahparagon oh.
ArcKay9: we shuffled the ownership, duh
sarahparagon: even if I hold out hope to try and make pokemon canlander real someday
sarahparagon: @FurthestChunk Yeag, lost that game lmao
evancoletcg: @sarahparagon RIP U150
FurthestChunk: @sarahparagon yeah I bet
ZiyeInverse: @sarahparagon I'd play in a heartbeat
FurthestChunk: so i might have just booted up the game boy game to listen to the normal duel theme
Mr_Horrible:
RandomTrivia: FurthestChunk Just reading that message has immediately put that into my head - absolutely cracking souudtrack
RandomTrivia: *soundtrack
sarahparagon: Like singleton 60 card unlimited would be an absurd mess of a format, but damn do I ever want to try and make a deck for it
FurthestChunk: hit him with the lick like we're listening to some random jazz memelord
ZiyeInverse: @sarahparagon Jungle Mime staring down modern cards that just can't hit him lol
FurthestChunk: Ooh we getting a deck out win
Aceviru: Scyther had a massive leg workout. Too much dancing
ArcKay9: This format has such a weird balance of high velocity early and then slamming the breaks late.
evancoletcg: This format is super grindy at the highest level
Heleor: I thought you couldn't mill in pokemon
evancoletcg: Makes sense lol
letsbelgo: big licks
FurthestChunk: @Heleor In regular tcg you absolutely can mill
RandomTrivia: @Heleor There are mill effects in later sets, but not in this format. But everyone having lots of draw-7s means you can deck yourself out by accident if you're not careful
FurthestChunk: Moltres is around to mill
evancoletcg: The deckout comes from being unable to take 6 prizes in time
ArcKay9: yeah, everyone has 4x wheel of fortune and 4x pot of greed.
evancoletcg: Moltres does mill
sarahparagon: @ZiyeInverse Yeah, that's one of the first ideas I had when I was brewing, pairing it with floral crown
Heleor: @RandomTrivia I get that, but I thought you don't lose from drawing from empty library?
evancoletcg: @Heleor You lose if your deck is empty at the start of your turn
RandomTrivia: @Heleor Ah. You do
Heleor: Ahh. Was I thinking of a different format/ruleset?
RandomTrivia: I believe you don't lose from drawing empty any other time
ekplayscards: wait pokemon is an actual game?
FurthestChunk: !pokemon Moltres FO
LRRbot: Moltres (FO 12) | Pokémon {Fire} [70HP] — Basic | {R} Wildfire: You may discard any number of Fire Energy cards attached to Moltres when you use this attack. If you do, discard that many cards from the top of your opponent's deck. / {RRRR} Dive Bomb (80): Flip a coin. If tails, this attack does nothing. | resist: Fighting-30 | retreat: {2}
sarahparagon: @ekplayscards jury's still out on that
sarahparagon: might be a fever dream
ekplayscards:
@sarahparagon yeah i legit just thought it was a gacha collector thing
RandomTrivia: Welp
Aceviru: Get
SnackPak_:
eggs
Aceviru: Scrunch
RandomTrivia:
There goes the "1 KO every other turn"
Krat_Arona: The WALL
letsbelgo: egg hubris
TheAinMAP:
Armoric: !pokemon lickitung
LRRbot: Found 21 cards you could be referring to - please enter more of the name
FurthestChunk: which set was lickitung
evancoletcg: Jungle
FurthestChunk: !pokemon Lickitung JU
LRRbot: Lickitung (JU 38) | Pokémon {Colorless} [90HP] — Basic | {1} Tongue Wrap (10): Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is now Paralyzed. / {2} Supersonic: Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is now Confused. | weak: Fighting×2 | resist: Psychic-30 | retreat: {3}
RandomTrivia:
Ben looking for the "8" on a d6 there
evancoletcg: 90 HP flip for para and psychic resistance is just too insane on a basic
RandomTrivia: Classic, we've all been there
FurthestChunk: Truly miserable
Armoric: So it's less deck management than stalling?
evancoletcg: @Armoric It just stalls them out
Aceviru: Papa needs it
FurthestChunk: With Lickitung decks yeah it's all stalling
SnackPak_: lets go
Aceviru: LETS GOO
evancoletcg: YOO
Armoric: Were early psychic pokemons that strong to make the resistance special?
RandomTrivia:
letsbelgo:
Mr_Horrible:
da lick o death
sarahparagon: Not just stalling, but a lot yeag. The licki mirror legit remains one of my favourite matchups in pokemon, just schedule 5 hours for it
FurthestChunk: Lickitung/Moltres probably isn't a good thing to do but it does erode your opponents' will go live
FurthestChunk: to live
DeM0nFiRe:
Aceviru:
SnackPak_: so rude
RandomTrivia:
So rude
Mr_Horrible: he's going Licko Mode
sarahparagon: @Armoric If not for the resist, Mewtwo would probably be in contender for strongest card in the format. But it's mostly just there as flavour for the ghost immunity
RandomTrivia: OMG
RandomTrivia: Big Gast-splosion
RandomTrivia: 3 for 3?
FurthestChunk: Ulmer was born for Lickitung gameplay
sarahparagon: lmao
Aceviru: HAHAHA
RandomTrivia: BAHAHAHAHA
Aceviru: Started off with 3 tails.
sarahparagon: we love to see it
aitsu100: ouch
TheAinMAP:
schordash:
Aceviru: Ended with 3 heads
ZiyeInverse: incredible lol
Mr_Horrible: Wheeler's gonna win every N100 die roll for the rest of the year
schordash:
Programmerman1: The eggs taketh and the licks giveth back
gsyhiap: Sick lick
aitsu100: get Ulmer on that Executor flipping
RandomTrivia: This was an absolute blast
ZiyeInverse: woooooo!!
lamina5432: thx for strem
Krat_Arona: Clap Well played both sides
Mr_Horrible: Pokemon TCG, an oldie but a goodie
ZiyeInverse: thanks for sharing!
Sleepy__Alice: that was so much fun
ZiyeInverse: HYPE
sarahparagon: So happy to see more retro pokemon play, it's legit inspiring me to play the format more again
Aceviru: Ty for allowing us to see the collection
ArcKay9:
Would love to see more retro pokemon
ArcKay9: Even if it's not base/fossil
ArcKay9: Klazynski is a goat
evancoletcg: jklaczpokemon
ZiyeInverse: oooo!
RandomTrivia: Charm? Does it also have Ander?
evancoletcg: ptcgarchive
evancoletcg: ptcglegends
evancoletcg: snowpoint temple
FurthestChunk: even just play the game boy game
ZiyeInverse: HECK YEAH NICE
evancoletcg: Thanks for showcasing retro!
Hrrisn: worlds was tight
MrBibz: Garde just won worlds right?
sarahparagon: And now there's still gardevoir,,,
NoxStryx: I wanna see someone play no energy Rotum
Nashlake: That was great to see the cards I collected as a kid actually played with!
ZiyeInverse:
it sure did
FurthestChunk: Get this man more Koffings
RandomTrivia:
Hrrisn: PEACE
evancoletcg: Or a 5th scyther
sarahparagon: @FurthestChunk Show ben some vending koffings, and remake the ideal dark weezing deck
SnackPak_: Amy G. Dala
personguy101: not pokemon related any plans on doing riftbound stuff when that comes out
CrossXhunteR: i know this word because of bloodborne
Mr_Horrible: I have not actually seen anything about this one, so I'm interested to see how it goes
Mr_Horrible:
although I'll have to leave partway through 
RandomTrivia: I'm really enjoying the new streaming schedule on LoadingReadyBen
sarahparagon: Speaking of, dark weezing did have an effective reprint in destined rivals with Rocket's weezing
gsyhiap: Ben's a busy boy this week
RandomTrivia:
CrossXhunteR: is cryogen relic ruining pauper
sarahparagon: !pokemon Rocket's weezing
LRRbot: Did you mean: Team Rocket's Weezing; Team Rocket's Weezing (DRI 199)
sarahparagon: !pokemon Team Rocket's Weezing
LRRbot: Team Rocket's Weezing (DRI 126) | Pokémon {Darkness} [130HP] — Stage 1 [evolves from: Team Rocket's Koffing] | {1D} Explode Together Now (40×): This attack does 40 damage for each Pokémon in play that has "Koffing" or "Weezing" in its name (both yours and your opponent's). | weak: Fighting×2 | retreat: {2}
Simbionis: @sarahparagon I had a pre-release deck with 8 of em plus 3 Weezing, so much fun
sarahparagon: !team rocket's koffing
sarahparagon: !pokemon team rockets koffing
LRRbot: Team Rocket's Koffing (DRI 125) | Pokémon {Darkness} [70HP] — Basic | Smog Signals: If this Pokémon is in the Active Spot and is damaged by an attack from your opponent's Pokémon (even if this Pokémon is Knocked Out), search your deck for up to 2 Pokémon that have "Koffing" in their name and put them onto your Bench. Then, shuffle your deck. / {1D} Leaking Gas (30) | weak: Fighting×2 | retreat: {1}
sarahparagon: lmao
ZiyeInverse: yoyoooo
FurthestChunk: yeah but you can always get more koffings
sarahparagon: But do you have the *standard* version lmao
sarahparagon: @Simbionis holy shit, the perfect prerelease deck does exist
Simbionis: You better believe I went 3-0 with that deck lol
CrossXhunteR: ooh, EOE canlander
lamina5432: food
FurthestChunk: be the good guy, ben
schordash:
CrossXhunteR: need a bigger table
RayFK: gosh dang it bobby, a king of the hill?
ZiyeInverse: lmao
ContingentCat: there is watch and play still
RandomTrivia:
avjamethyst subscribed with Prime. They've subscribed for 94 months!
LRRbot:
Thanks for subscribing, avjamethyst! (Today's storm count: 33)
RayFK: Shadowverse
avjamethyst: hello
avjamethyst: a bad deck so I can win
SnackPak_:
schordash:
Omthebox: Looks like you just missed them
Mr_Horrible: the angle-shoot, powerful
avjamethyst: rude
Dog_of_Myth: The disrespect....
Aceviru: haha
Mr_Horrible:
RandomTrivia: Ah well, you can take revenge on Friday by crushing everyone
undecided44: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam play horror games until they find the key that will bring them true happiness. Game: Amygdala) at Tue 05:00 PM PDT (44m from now).
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