Strebenherz: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Is This Your Card? (Join Wheeler and his every expanding list of card based games, now in digital AND physical flavours! Game: The Lord of the Rings Trading Card Game) at Tue 01:00 PM PST (1m ago).
Earthenone:

Strebenherz:

Aceviru:

chaosof99: Can somebody remind Graham to Mush the Bag next time they see him?
TXC2: m-Morgan?
chaosof99: nope
chaosof99: just stumbled over that Phailhaus today while hunting for The Whatever Thing due to wanting to see where Adam's "The Dutch, again!" started
chaosof99: also, Morgan wasn't in that video
TXC2: chaosof99 oh really? darn
TXC2: could have sworn it was one of the man cooking videos
chaosof99: Alex was in there, demonstrating how to break up chocolate, Man-Cooking style. It was very funny
Juliamon: it had Man Cooking elements, but wasn't one
TXC2: man cooking adjacent
Earthenone watched 40 consecutive streams and sparked a watch streak!
TheAinMAP:

TXC2: here we GO!
Strebenherz watched 35 consecutive streams and sparked a watch streak!
millenomi_Aura: for the record: this is the Decipher LotR TCG
TXC2: hello Wheeler and Angel
Krillin_fan: @millenomi_Aura wooo!
chaosof99: Has Wheeler ever played Netrunner?
millenomi_Aura: @chaosof99 I’ve sent LRR all of current Standard
TXC2: "if you can play Mahjogn, you can dodge a ball!"
TXC2: !patreon
LidofLoathing: I had a deck of that as a kid. Never played it because no one else I knew had a deck.
millenomi_Aura: this is one of my favorite TCG designs of all time
Krillin_fan: @millenomi_Aura same!
TXC2: !store
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chaosof99: @millenomi_Aura I am trying to get back into the game, after I received Elevation in the mail last week
aug_med:
so no The One Ring 
chaosof99: thank you
Justinthomasmm: thanks wheeler
chaosof99: I remain calm
TXC2: hello Paul on tech
chaosof99: Hello Paul!
chaosof99: I am so glad Wheeler didn't break into The Black Parade
Justinthomasmm: I literally tuned in and hadn’t even talked about netrunner, but it’s good to know others also want good things 😘
Justinthomasmm: excited to see this!
aug_med: that’s sweet to have a friend group do that
TXC2: and presumibly without a credit card
Juliamon: I remember ordering Pokemon cards online back then. Sure did take a lot of work.
chaosof99: Ordering online in 2003, oof, I remember, and I don't want to
millenomi_Aura: (disclaimer: I’m a narrative designer at NSG for Netrunner. also hi Brennan and the Victoria Netrunner scene if you’re reading this)
Mattmitchell45: I thought ordering online was EBay exclusive at that point
GhostValv: oh
aug_med: oh
Mattmitchell45: @millenomi_Aura So cool!
durketh: oh
letsbelgo: oh
Strebenherz: OH NO
Charlz91: Damn...
ChargingFurret: dang
TXC2:
wow that's heartbreaking 
chaosof99: You gifted him broken dreams
millenomi_Aura: lol. lmao
PMAvers: Magic: truly a mistake.
Mattmitchell45: Did you play with them eventually?
Aceviru: Amd you bought them a lotr booster box right
chaosof99: I bought you an amazing PC game since you like action. It's Daikatana!
TXC2:
I kinda want this friend to show up now "this is your life" style 
ChargingFurret: lol
Aceviru: Hahaha
Mattmitchell45: Paul is right to do so
aug_med: thank you paul
TXC2:
chaosof99 oh Gods that happened at least once 
chaosof99: I don't think too many 12-year-olds are watching LRR
Strebenherz: Get roasted 12 year old
Mattmitchell45: Wheeler would have learned about compassion too early and wouldn't be here
Aceviru: But then where would magic be today
tsp397: Unlike Wheeler
chaosof99: what time is ti in victoria? 1 AM?
The_Lesser_Gatsby: He would be wearing a LoTR shirt, and learning to play a defunct game called magic.
chaosof99: sorry, 1 PM
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Krillin_fan: Movie Block is best block!
Juliamon: !time
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LoadingReadyRun: wow! thanks for the gift subs!
TXC2:
millenomi_Aura 
GhostValv: oh...
CrossXhunteR: woo, got gifted
Juliamon: "fan"
Justinthomasmm: WOOO
Charlz91:
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jessicatheblack: *begins to shake*
Mattmitchell45: Netrunner creator
jessicatheblack: loves... net... runnnerrrr
letsbelgo: Black ice choom
millenomi_Aura:

TXC2: same kinda happened with the GW game
Juliamon: ah, classic "we're going to gender-segregate players for no good reason" era
CrossXhunteR: how many hundreds of dollars were these decks
Crad0k: hello, i used to be a judge and TO for this
Barb4rian: LOL, cosplayed for those. Amazing
GhostValv:
horsemanship 
Crad0k: ditch the ents, the other two are designed from the same expansion so you'll get a slightly better experience
Krillin_fan: Eowyn's deck is using Isengard Ward-Riders
CrossXhunteR: will i be lost if ive never seen any of these movies
millenomi_Aura: it is.
Krillin_fan: Legolas is playing Southrons
Alzharade: Is this the one from the mid to late nineties or another one from around when the films came out?
TXC2: Alzharade from around the flims
seanmrwick: I didn't know that there was a trading card game for the Lord of the Rings movies
CrossXhunteR: mind if i smoke in here?
PMAvers: I’m still amazed it had a good online client back in those days too
TXC2: only the freshest 2002 air in those packs
seanmrwick: oh this game is over 20 years old?
Crad0k: these ones do not
millenomi_Aura: they don’t make starters like this anymore
GhostValv: D:
millenomi_Aura: I love my little manuals.
CrossXhunteR: it's like the monkey
Krillin_fan: the little manuals were the best
Crad0k: helm's deep and ents of fangorn starters had alternate art rares instead of randoms
Barb4rian: Good Helm's Deep wall shouting right there
Aceviru: Rule booksl? *Bites lip*
seanmrwick: Judge!
TXC2: pretty sure Aragorn is saying "forth Eolingas!"
CarpeLiam: @seanmrwick It's a very dead game. Ended in 2007
Crad0k: it was Not A Popular Move
seanmrwick: @CarpeLiam that explains why
Aceviru: Hahaha
CrossXhunteR: the text on these cards could be slightly easier to read
vinopinguino: ayyyooo
TXC2: big mood there Frodo
SnowBuddy18: everyone has a One Ring? sounds like Magic: The Gathering
GhostValv: honestly someone should make a MTG proxy with that art style
aug_med: pog The One Ring
seanmrwick: @SnowBuddy18 I sold my 3 copies
CarpeLiam: Every deck had a Frodo until the 9th expansion. Then you could give Gimli the ring.
Coloneljesus: a multitude of frodos
TXC2: how long until we could give Ilsidur the ring?
vinopinguino: loool
CarpeLiam: @TXC2 9th set
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: they've been trapped since 2000's. They're just gasping for air
GhostValv: miracle max has seen better days
TXC2:
CarpeLiam oh neat 
CarpeLiam: Wish I was joking
Krillin_fan: @TXC2 he was one of the better "alternate" ring-bearers as well!
Wolfstrike_NL:
O hey @millenomi_Aura Thanks for the sub 
TXC2: Krillin_fan neat
Krillin_fan: Elite Rider's game text reduces it's cost when it's started
Crad0k: the manual should tell you the 'intended' starting fellowship
vinopinguino: eowyn solos
Rootpotato: are they roommates
CrossXhunteR: dust in the wind
Justinthomasmm: this already rules
Charlz91:
I now want to have a small booklet like that for Magic rules 
CarpeLiam: The game is genuinely very good
DMGlol: oh man its been years since I've played this game
millenomi_Aura: that’s very much the vibe
CrossXhunteR: the backs of these cards are nice
millenomi_Aura: welcome to Decipher TCGs! the German of TCG rulesets to Magic’s English.
Lord_Hosk: Oh, this game is so poorly playtested some cards are way overpowered like Black lotus level of broken
CarpeLiam: Angel mentioned alt-ringbearers next week, does this mean you're playing some real decks?
DMGlol: only one frodo may stand
CrossXhunteR: do they use the term "the bad guys" in the official rules
Krillin_fan: @CrossXhunteR Shadow, vs Free Peoples
Barb4rian: There can be only one! -- Frodo!
LoadingReadyRun: yes, next week we will be playing with some decks from competitions
CarpeLiam: @LoadingReadyRun I will send actual cash to see Ninja Gollum in action
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PMAvers: there’s a very handy proxy printer website
CrossXhunteR: is one of the locations the two towers (i have never seen these movies, i assume the name is literal)?
Alzharade: Hm, has ITYC ever done, or plans on doing Deadlands or the Vampire the Masquerade TCG?
vinopinguino: ol
zshunter: @CrossXhunteR While the name is literal the towers are miles apart
vinopinguino: *lol
TXC2: CrossXhunteR it's two towers at two different locations
Krillin_fan:
on a tie it's then a coin flip 
CrossXhunteR: i always assumed they were relatively adjacent towers, maybe connected by a bridge or two
CarpeLiam: @CrossXhunteR They're quite far apart
DMGlol: Orlando Bloom noooo
LoadingReadyRun: @Alzharade we have not played it, but we are up for any card games on ITYC
CrossXhunteR: @DMGlol now im here wondering if there was a pirates of the carribean TCG
Alzharade: I've always been interested in Deadlands, might want to put that on the list to do some digging/research into.
Krillin_fan:
Neither of these starters have a Sam 
CrossXhunteR: are there land equivalents in this game?
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CarpeLiam: @CrossXhunteR Ish?
Krillin_fan:
@CrossXhunteR no, it uses one of the best resource systems 
Krillin_fan: you'll see it as Angel explains further
CarpeLiam: @CrossXhunteR The Free Peoples player spends as much mana as they want, but then that is how much the Shadow is allowed to spend
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vinopinguino: beans resource system
CrossXhunteR: the bowl of glass beads is very funny
millenomi_Aura: the best part of this game is about to happen
DMGlol: its hamtaro time
Krillin_fan: Everyone had such cool markers for this game
millenomi_Aura: okay sorry Hamtaro is the best part and the second best is about to happen
millenomi_Aura: (the second best is the resource system)
CrossXhunteR: ponder the orb?
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Alzharade: Did Sauron or the Nine ever get a card/deck, and was it any good?
Krillin_fan: @Alzharade yes to all of it
Krillin_fan: well a sauron specific deck was never very valid, but he did have a card!
TheDevil_Risen:

CarpeLiam: @Alzharade The nine were printed a bunch of times and one was an auto-include in every deck
Nalothwen: Were there elven sub-types or did all elves count as the same category?
Alzharade: I have to imagine Sauron interacted with the ring in some fascinating way.
LoadingReadyRun: Lorien Swordsman: "HI GUYS!" Fellowship: "Shhhh!"
CrossXhunteR: love me a non-reminder text keyword
millenomi_Aura: it’s a subtype equivalent.
ChargingFurret: whats fierce?
CarpeLiam: @ChargingFurret Fierce means it fights twice
TheDevil_Risen: Warg-rider is an unloaded keyword appearing on minions from the Isengard culture. The keyword only appeared on nine minions in two sets: Battle of Helm's Deep and Ents of Fangorn. As the name implies, they are intended to be paired with Wargs to ride.
TheDevil_Risen: Unloaded Keywords are bold one-word labels included in the game text of many cards. They do not confer any special meaning in and of themselves, but merely further describe what the card is and represents.
millenomi_Aura: pchoo (arrow sounds)
couchboyj: Especially Backgammon
Nalothwen: Two elves and an elf-friend
Drum0_0: No.
Barb4rian: Negative.
ExachixKitsune: That's elves and Orcs
dreezebreeze: orcs were elves
Krillin_fan: Never trust an elf!
Mai_Andra: fundamentally no.
letsbelgo: elves and orcs
Drum0_0: Orcs and elves were, though.
Lord_Hosk: Orcs are corupted elves
bisaflau: I think that was the case in Elder Scrolls?
Nalothwen: Dwarves weren't made by big god, just a littler god
CrossXhunteR: american alert
Alzharade: They were made by the smith god, the one from the highest tier pantheon/choir of angels right below Eru Iluvatar. Same rank as where Morgoth came from, and a tier above Sauron, Gandalf, and Saruman.
vinopinguino: Order off menu
glitched_goddess: The kazad Al menu is ok but the wine selection is lacking
CrossXhunteR: what's celebrimbor up to
Lord_Hosk: Also most elves we know in lord of the rings aren't elves to Elvish society. Because 20,000 years ago, one of their ancestors married one of the Dúnedain
LoadingReadyRun: What's important is that Gimli and Legolas killed equal numbers of enemies, otherwise their count would be uneven
TXC2: LoadingReadyRun and the Oliphant does just count as one
Krillin_fan: @LoadingReadyRun they actually made a couple cards that reference this! Final Count and My Axe is Notched
CrossXhunteR: is there a deck you don't draw from?
Lord_Hosk: @LoadingReadyRun Hate to break it to you, but Gimli won, he had 43, Legolas only had 42
Alzharade: I love the film trilogy overall, and Peter Jackson's work on the series, but I disliked how Gimli was made into comic relief.
Krillin_fan: @CrossXhunteR you've a site deck that you play in order, but you don't draw from it
Krillin_fan: @Alzharade preach!
Mai_Andra: ♫ Rohan Man~ ♪
nevyn666: JUDGE
CrossXhunteR: why is there a bead on angel's frodo?
Alzharade: I find it interesting that one of the mechanics they played with was different versions of the One Ring, along with different Ring-Bearers.
Mai_Andra: He found coconuts in Middle Earth somehow...
CarpeLiam: @CrossXhunteR It's a burden from the opening bidding
LoadingReadyRun: @Mai_Andra European Swallow
CarpeLiam: Represents the influence of the ring, Frodo can take 9 before he is corrupted and Angel loses
CrossXhunteR: this game is quite different from any other card game ive seen before
CarpeLiam: It's incredibly flavourful
LoadingReadyRun: @CrossXhunteR ya, both players playing both sides is neat
Krillin_fan: it's one of the best card games ever made, imho
CarpeLiam: @Krillin_fan Hard agree
ChargingFurret: valiant is a typeline?
CarpeLiam: @ChargingFurret It's an unloaded keyword. It does nothing but other cards refer to it.
CrossXhunteR: i want to see the old avatar the last airbender card game on ITYC in the future
CarpeLiam: One awkward thing is that unloaded keywords look exactly like keywords with actual rules implications.
LoadingReadyRun: the twilight resource system reminds me a bit of Digimon
PMAvers: it’s nice that it supports multiplayer pretty naturally too, there’s just more Shadow players on your turn
Crad0k: @CarpeLiam decipher inc. in a nutshell
TXC2:
personally I'm still waiting for OG Duel Masters on ITYC 
vinopinguino: @LoadingReadyRun Yeah the memory
vinopinguino: Sliding scale
CarpeLiam: @Crad0k Amazing flavour, awful balance. The Decipher way.
Crad0k: and also the financial fraud, alas
CrossXhunteR: also, the zatch bell game. because the spell books were cool
PMAvers: “you should be worried!” as Angel pulls out a knife
JinaMahavira: @millenomi_Aura Thanks for the gift sub!
Krillin_fan: @CrossXhunteR the zatch bell game was so cool because of those spellbooks, the game was mid, but that design element was elite
CarpeLiam: Oh you hardly ever want to go to six companions
CarpeLiam: That's when a Nazgul pops out and ganks you
Crad0k: i will say, that as someone who used to teach this game, it's got less of a learning curve than a learning wall
TXC2:
really cool that my brain the last 10 mins stuck trying to spell "career" as "cureah" 
CrossXhunteR: were beads used in competition, or did people just use dice?
Crad0k: beads!
CarpeLiam: @CrossXhunteR Beads exclusively
CarpeLiam: I had black beads and red beads with me at all times
Crad0k: easier to work with, your totals were pretty fluid
Krillin_fan: it varied, but in my area we were all pro bead, the clinking was soothing
TXC2: TCGs seemed to really push beads over dice for some reason
Cptasparagus: are there multiple lotr card games? The cards that I see when googling lotr tcg look different.
Crad0k: yeah, i had like, half a dozen colours of beads for playing
PMAvers: beads are cool an more stable when bumped
Alzharade: Skimming over the Wiki, the Wraiths (and Sauron) were ludicrously expensive but incredibly durable, and a lot of them seemed to have ways to discount their Twilight costs.
Juliamon: Beads, baubles, anything that could conceivably look like dragon treasure was automatically cool and desirable
CarpeLiam: @Cptasparagus Middle Earth TCG came out even further back in time
Cptasparagus: @CarpeLiam thats what this is called?
Lord_Hosk: wow angel... you can't just ask someone which skirmish they want to resolve first... its 2025...
millenomi_Aura: there was also a LotR LCG from FFG,
millenomi_Aura: iirc
CarpeLiam: @Cptasparagus This is LotR Trading Card Game. ME TCG was even older.
Cptasparagus: yeah the FFG one is what Im seeing mostly
vinopinguino:
Mount screwed 
ChargingFurret: where do you get a coconut? from a sparrow?
CarpeLiam: @millenomi_Aura There still is! It's mostly out of print but they have some reprints still doing the rounds.
CarpeLiam: Far too much of my brain is full of LotR card games
LoadingReadyRun: Searching for resources for this game is tricky because there are so many other LotR card games
CrossXhunteR: can you dual wield shields in this game?
CarpeLiam: @LoadingReadyRun There's one excellent wiki for this one
Crad0k: @LoadingReadyRun lotrtcgwiki dot com is what you're looking for
LoadingReadyRun: @CarpeLiam ya! it was very useful for getting crad images
millenomi_Aura: also specifically “LotR TCG” should find this one game.
glitched_goddess: Orlando bloom just taking out orcs at Minas tirith with a pair of DEagles would be hilarious
millenomi_Aura: versus ME TCG or LotR LCG.
Crad0k: @LoadingReadyRun you... have images of me?
letsbelgo: @Crad0k yes, the decor of your bedroom is very nice
LoadingReadyRun:
@Crad0k oops, I meant *cards* (we do also have Crad images
)
FurthestChunk: @Crad0k be glad Paul didn't put you in the crad shuffler
vinopinguino: I too am fierce when not exhausted
millenomi_Aura: ha! you fools! I am exhausted all the time.
aug_med: he yearns for a sticker
millenomi_Aura: (exert is one of the keywords that lives rent free in my head)
LoadingReadyRun: This epic battle of Warg Riders and Riders of Rohan running around without mounts is very silly
Krillin_fan: @LoadingReadyRun send in the unmounted cavalry!!!
CarpeLiam: When I started playing I thought archery was so busted
millenomi_Aura: paying twilight? for those two guys? couldn’t be me
CarpeLiam: Oh I see
Invitare: @ChargingFurret Vertically displaced cavalry
vinopinguino: It's like I'm in the theatre!
MilkBreadTB: is this by the same company as the godzilla card game?
millenomi_Aura: no,
millenomi_Aura: this is by a long-dead company
millenomi_Aura: (Decipher)
millenomi_Aura: it is a very influential game in a bunch of ways on future design, but it’s twenty-plus years old at this point.
The_Lesser_Gatsby: It looks like Khazad is back on Ai-Menu
CarpeLiam: Hobbit Stealth was My Jam
Coloneljesus: that's a long way of saying "imma cheat", Angel
MilkBreadTB: @millenomi_Aura ty for the info! ^^
Krillin_fan:
Angel stealth-ing with the ring bearer? for shame 
CarpeLiam: Ruined a rule later in the game more like
millenomi_Aura: Decipher!
CarpeLiam: It definitely made sense as a rule change, but as someone who played Hobbit decks whenever possible I didn't like it
Krillin_fan: if i'm not cancelling both Balrog skirmishes at site 5, what even am i doing?
Cptasparagus: nice
millenomi_Aura: I mean, Decipher were truly also leaders in the “spot ruling sets are how every game work, what’s a comprehensive rules document” and “errata will never confuse anyone, right” of the era
Krillin_fan:
@millenomi_Aura the special edition rules supplement for the Star Wars card game was mandatory reading 
vinopinguino: That's a man dog
vinopinguino: It's own best friend
Crad0k: oh, decipher were very much 'ban the card and make a new version instead of errata'
TXC2: right chat I'm off
millenomi_Aura: this game is very important because it’s also the first Decipher game in the ‘MtG is getting more regularized and more evenly comprehensible, our games need to go that way” that also separates Star Trek CCG 1E v 2E
TXC2: goodnight everybody, and thanks for streaming Wheeler and Angel and Paul on tech
millenomi_Aura: the basis of a lot of their future output.
TeaGarrison: I had a bunch of these cards as a kid but I never knew how to play—mostly because nobody ever wanted to learn to play with me
CarpeLiam: This was, for me, easily Decipher's best game. I liked Star Wars but by the time I got into it the game was a mess
Crad0k:
star wars was *always* a mess 
Krillin_fan: Star Wars is a beautiful mess
millenomi_Aura: I love .hack//ENEMY to bits but LotR was their best game by far.
Riiiiiiis: Lords of the Ring
Cptasparagus: Bearer must be a Man, Eowyn is no man.
Jundinator: Hi LRRchat. How old is this card game
CarpeLiam: @Jundinator This set is from 2003
Crad0k: first set came out with the first movie, this is set number 5, so early 2003
Jundinator: Do we know who made it?
TeaGarrison: early 2000s. I just remember I was in middle school
CarpeLiam: @Jundinator Decipher
Crad0k: decipher inc.
millenomi_Aura: the game is by Decipher and ran 2001 through 2007
Jundinator: Anything else Decipher made?
Crad0k:
lots of things 
CarpeLiam: Stars both War and Trek
Krillin_fan: Star Wars, Star Trek, Austin Powers, Megaman, .Hack, Fight Klub, How to host a Murder. I'm likely missing a couple
millenomi_Aura: @Jundinator Star Wars CCG, Young Jedi, Star Trek CCG 1st & 2nd Ed., Zatch Bell, .hack//ENEMY and a handful of others, but these I listed were the most famous or influential.
LoadingReadyRun: there seems to be over 3000 cards in the whole game, so it did have a pretty good run
millenomi_Aura: (and a handful of licensed anime ones toward the end like Megaman, Medabot and Beyblade.)
Jundinator: @LoadingReadyRun Nice. Thats not a bad run. I wonder where wheeler found this
Crad0k: decipher were the 'other' big ccg company in the 90s-00s, they did lots of media tie-in stuff
millenomi_Aura:
@Jundinator check the vod 
LoadingReadyRun: @Jundinator Angel brought it
CarpeLiam: The first ten sets came out alongside movies and did well. Then the site rules changed and there was no Peter Jackson advertising and it dropped off hard
Jundinator: Ooh
Crad0k: @CarpeLiam and the shadow side changes which were totally needed but also change is hard
CarpeLiam: Oh I forgot about the shadow overhaul too. No wonder I quit playing in a huff.
MilkBreadTB: I have no idea whos winning
millenomi_Aura: Whoever gets to site 9 first and survive wins.
Cptasparagus: lordcana
Crad0k: could be either of them, the game can swing fast
Earthenone:

millenomi_Aura: so, whoever has their little hamster pal farthest.
CarpeLiam: This blast from the past is excellent, can't wait to watch the VOD. Night chat.
Krillin_fan: g'night!!
Crad0k: night!
millenomi_Aura: nini
ContingentCat: lol I thought I had a checkpoint video in another tab for a second
stnrwzrd:

Strebenherz: Fourth erolingas? Fifth?
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Krillin_fan: frodo spent the break hitting the gym
RatherLargeToad:
weapon
sadfleck:

RatherLargeToad: you ride ONE warg…
Krillin_fan: the dogs have arrived!
ChargingFurret: more shooring
Cptasparagus: wargerskis
glitched_goddess: 2guys1dog
dolphgrim: Here me out: Two guys on one dog jumping over a ramp over a shark.
CrossXhunteR: ask your parents
maxdroom: @millenomi_Aura Thank you!
Dr_fragenstien: it's considered an orcish faux pa
dolphgrim: @Dr_fragenstien I think we call that a step dad. 😋
millenomi_Aura: you cannot exert if placing a wound would kill yeah.
RatherLargeToad: Behold! An elf!
niccus: indicate
millenomi_Aura: spot <x> also lives rent free in my head.
millenomi_Aura: keyword setups that rewire your brain.
Krillin_fan: spot, while very funny, is a super clean way of saying "is this thing in play"
Dr_fragenstien: while funny "spot" is much more elegant than "if you control"
millenomi_Aura: yep
TeaGarrison: @krillin_fan yeah it doesn’t minimize card text
Drum0_0: Can you put more archery damage on a minion than they have health?
TeaGarrison: @krillin_fan does**
Krillin_fan: @Drum0_0 no, once they hit their health, they die
TeaGarrison: autocratic got me there
TeaGarrison: autocorrect** jeez
Dr_fragenstien: autocratic XD
rentar42: technically off-topic, but I just wanna say that I just enjoyed the no-holds barred vintage cube video and it was amazing, start-to-end
TeaGarrison: i have odd thumbs for touchscreens
LoadingReadyRun: @rentar42 glad to hear that! It was super fun
LoadingReadyRun:
I wonder if you could play this with each player just doing one side. One player with a whole shadow deck and the other with a Free Peoples deck
FanboyBryan:
hazzah! 
millenomi_Aura: oh no the husband!!!!!
dolphgrim: RIP
glitched_goddess: oh so no more gimlis forever? lmao
millenomi_Aura: husband revenge time
millenomi_Aura: push your luck/resources: the game.
PMAvers: I feel like if Heather was here she’s be goading people into constantly double moving.
Krillin_fan: 6 wargs, 3 mounts
Krillin_fan: wheeler has more dogs than horses confirmed
CrossXhunteR: where's shadowfax
LoadingReadyRun:
@CrossXhunteR not in the starter deck, I guess 
Krillin_fan: Shadowfax is for Gandalf, and he's late
rentar42: Shadowfax is DLC horse
millenomi_Aura: subscribe shadowfax
LoadingReadyRun: before you buy a horse, always check the shadowfax
millenomi_Aura: sites 3 and 6 are always sanctuaries.
Krillin_fan: site 5 and site 9 are the big "checks" for game flow, 9 being the site the game ends at and 5 "usually" being the big fight before they hit the last sanctuary
millenomi_Aura: a big battle?! at helm’s deep????!
dolphgrim: A second elephant has hit the table
TeaGarrison: it is a beautiful moment of cinema
millenomi_Aura: wheeler’s doing pretty great, only 1 wound before hitting site 6
Coloneljesus: CUT!
Crad0k: i mean, that's a thing that actually happens in the film
TeaGarrison: she does use two swords to cut the hind legs of a mumakil and it topples
dolphgrim: @TeaGarrison ...but what about the second elephant? 👀
LoadingReadyRun: @TeaGarrison well, there's the problem. According to the rules of the card game, she can't have two swords
PMAvers: the traditional trading of the wounds
dolphgrim: @LoadingReadyRun No! My immersion! 😭😭😭
TeaGarrison: @loadingreadyrun You got me there, Paul
Crad0k: @LoadingReadyRun some weapons actually say they can be borne along with one other
Crad0k: rule of 9!
Krillin_fan: it's 9! it's on theme!
Krillin_fan: the starter decks do have fewer cards than a normal deck, which is why they allow the reshuffle
Krillin_fan: 50!
millenomi_Aura: the starter are lower than 60 draw deck cards yeah.
Crad0k: yeah, standard deck is 60 standard, one ring, nine sites and one bearer
millenomi_Aura: I just checked the CR (because it turns out this game _has_ a CR) and yeah, you can’t look at your opponent’s discard pile. Decipher!
millenomi_Aura: “you only need to show the corner of the card that matters” Star Trek CCG Decipher.
Cptasparagus: @millenomi_Aura can you have open notes?
millenomi_Aura: I don’t have the tournament rules handy
CrossXhunteR: just got to use that big ol brain
Krillin_fan:
Wheeler, yes 100%. Tracking decks was a skill that decipher encouraged. @Cptasparagus no notes 
glitched_goddess: I believe that would be a “screw that” house rule lmao
Cptasparagus: magic players would go insane
LoadingReadyRun: @Krillin_fan and now Decipher is dead, so what does that tell us
Krillin_fan: T_T
Crad0k: @LoadingReadyRun don't let your brother in law do the books
millenomi_Aura: if anyone continued this it’s probably a rule that would change pretty fast.
LoadingReadyRun: @Crad0k oof, is that what happened?
Krillin_fan: @millenomi_Aura there is an active player's committee. They JUST released a new set a few days ago
millenomi_Aura: and they didn’t change the rule? ow.
millenomi_Aura: and also heck yes.
UtilityPunk: So Decipher was a company doing Universes Beyond TCGs?
millenomi_Aura: they were one of the original “licensed games galore” TCG companies
Krillin_fan: @millenomi_Aura I think they may have, but i'm not 100% sure
Crad0k: yup! they were probably going to struggle eventually anyway, but most of their money was embezzled away and they released basically nothing for a year, that killed them
LoadingReadyRun: the game having a strong afterlife, sustained by an active player community reminds me a bit of the XWing game we are playing on Long Game
millenomi_Aura: I just checked and they didn’t.
millenomi_Aura: baffling but ok
Crad0k: all three of decipher's big three games are still very active, it's great
UtilityPunk: Some rulesets are definitely worth modding. I love when wargames and TCGs get thriving community mods
Krillin_fan: @Crad0k 100%
millenomi_Aura:
(disclaimer: I’m a narrative designer on Netrunner so I have feelings about continuing games.
)
LoadingReadyRun: Ah, yes, "Valor": when you fight better against already wounded enemies
TeaGarrison: @loadingreadyrun I just watched the episode of askLRR where Cam mentioned he wanted a modern remaster of Xwing
bisaflau: Frodo Voltron? Frodoltron?
PMAvers: I wonder if sliding some of the old sites along the north edge might be worth it?
LoadingReadyRun: @TeaGarrison well, that's exactly what he and Cori are playing on Long Game!
millenomi_Aura: FROLTRON
UtilityPunk: Frodo Baggins vs. The World
bisaflau: @millenomi_Aura perfection
LoadingReadyRun: how about FRODOLTRON? Better or too long?
Chronomagistrate: Gosh this is bringing back a lot of memories of the early 2000s TCGs
millenomi_Aura: yeah, older sites are usually no longer relevant to the game IIRC
millenomi_Aura: They can be set aside if you need it.
UtilityPunk: Yu Yu Hakusho and some Zatch Bell?
Krillin_fan:
neither of these decks capture sites, stacking them is fine 
cmdrud87:
Hey, wait, this isn't Magic 
dolphgrim: @cmdrud87 It's UB
Chronomagistrate: Fun fact: I was (briefly) an articles writer for Decipher around 2000, primarily for ST:CCG.
LoadingReadyRun: Universe Waaaaay Beyond
dolphgrim: @LoadingReadyRun 😂
millenomi_Aura: rohirrim bows don’t archery which was funny IIRC
Chronomagistrate: @LoadingReadyRun I mean yeah... after they lost most of their licences and ran into financial troubles, Decipher tried to pull together as many small movie licensed to create a TCG called "Fight Club"
ChargingFurret: the fact that it's two ex- is kinda confusion
UtilityPunk: Yeah, putting the tokens on a card feels kinda like placing a meeple. Refreshing indeed
dolphgrim: @ChargingFurret Yeah
millenomi_Aura: turning card sideways was for a long time thought to be patented by Wizards in a way that would make them litigious, so a lot of non-MtG games from that era kind of avoided that.
dolphgrim: @ChargingFurret As an American in the 21st century, I can't tell the difference between the two
Crad0k: decipher didn't do turning sideways at all, really; there's a couple of cases you do it as a timing thing, or to show damage on a card, but no tapping
NoSpoonsLeftOnlyKnives: I've missed this game, I have a pretty big box of product just sitting behind me from when I used to play.
LoadingReadyRun: @NoSpoonsLeftOnlyKnives nice!
Crad0k: i've still got most of my cards... i've got a fair few promos i never got to give out i should really dig up...
CrossXhunteR: i shouldn't be surprised, but there are too many people in this chat that have played this game before
Crad0k: probably still have all the volunteer tshirts somewhere too, but they were obtained by a... slimmer man
DigitalSeahorse:

dolphgrim: Angel is slowly veering into 'big kid on the playground rules' territory. 👀
DigitalSeahorse: Lorr of the Dings
DigitalSeahorse:

dolphgrim: 😉 jk jk
CrossXhunteR: wheeler should have studied his tattered pamphlet
CrossXhunteR: what happens now that angel has no more draw deck
Chronomagistrate:
"Too much to front load every rule" - Yup, that's a Decipher CCG, alright 
Crad0k:
as a decipher accredited judge i feel i should say... yeah, do whatever, i don't care 
dolphgrim: @CrossXhunteR I heard that she just wins now, actually
ChargingFurret: @CrossXhunteR "supposed" to shuffle back because starter decks, but they're playing with normal rules, so that doesn't happen
glitched_goddess: “I’m not going if I don’t know anybody there.”
dm818: Harsh but fair
DigitalSeahorse:

TeaGarrison: that’s rough, buddy
CrossXhunteR: do you still have the card sheet?
dolphgrim: @glitched_goddess 😂
Krillin_fan: All sams and all frodos are ring-bound yeah
wiigamer1995:
Chat who is winning? 
glitched_goddess: Gimli the Defiled
Drum0_0: What does the symbol on king's room mean?
CrossXhunteR: card game referring to it as the "discard pile". this *is* an old game
emperorchampion: angel just flexing
Krillin_fan: @Drum0_0 in the game text? Rohirrim, it's wheeler's faction
lightfut: Because drawing cards is fun, Angel had all the fun and now there's no more fun left
wiigamer1995: !card gimlie
LRRbot: Can't find any card by that name
Drum0_0: @Krillin_fan Thanks!
Crad0k: nope, one game, hour limit
niccus: finals the length of the directors cut
CrossXhunteR: and i thought riftbound board states and back and forths could get complicated
Krillin_fan: once you know your deck, the game plays incredibly fast. Also constructed decks are massively different beasts
ChargingFurret: no, just do it like a classic chess tournament, one match a day, play it over a month
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UWDJohn: archery?
Chronomagistrate: @CrossXhunteR Have you ever seen a ST:CCG 1E board state?
Krillin_fan: RIP Balglin, he was a real one
Crad0k: @Chronomagistrate 'do you like side decks? well, have i got the game for you'
Mattmitchell45: Would he wear the Ring like this or like this?
millenomi_Aura: Jesus, I love what the STCCG continuing committee is doing, but both those games are kind of wild in different ways
niccus: legoless
ChargingFurret: no named characters for angel
Chronomagistrate: @Crad0k I bring my AU, my Q Continuum, my Station Rooms...
TheDevil_Risen:

Krillin_fan: a dark day for elves
CrossXhunteR: im thinking things arent going well for angel
millenomi_Aura: 1E is an old school maximalist mess, 2E is kind of an eurogame.
UtilityPunk: Frodo & The Boys. A new band
glitched_goddess: at least now he doesn’t have to be in Pirates of the Caribbean
millenomi_Aura: rip second husband
couchboyj: I hear Dingus Vale is lovely this time of year
Chronomagistrate: @millenomi_Aura Yeah, that's a really good way of putting it. Although, I kinda stopped following what the CC were doing some years back.
millenomi_Aura: they’re not going to change the fundamental nature of either game
PMAvers: and then overnight Wheeler is pulling up GEMP and jamming games
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millenomi_Aura: dingus but no bingus. this economy
UtilityPunk: The great and mighty wizard, Dingus
RatherLargeToad: 🎶They’re taking the hobits to Dingus Vale!🎶
ChargingFurret: how does one win in this game
Krillin_fan: @ChargingFurret make it to site 9 with frodo (or your ring-bearer alive). Or kill/corrupt your opponent's frodo
ChargingFurret:

CrossXhunteR: no reshuffle, just have it end on a weak note
Crad0k: you can have as many as you want
ChargingFurret: wait... does wheelers deck do nothing with the valiant keyword
DigitalSeahorse: is running out of cards instadeath?
UWDJohn: I remember using more than 60 in my decks. upwards of 70.
Krillin_fan: decks that were well above 60 were the norm, i'd say on average 76-80 was the sweet spot
LoadingReadyRun: runing out of cards just stalls you out
DigitalSeahorse: ah
Crad0k: i ran a tourney where a guy had a 220 card deck
LoadingReadyRun: I guess I should have posted that earlier
DigitalSeahorse: I been collecting cards from fruit snacks to use as tokens
Juliamon: forget the ham sandwich, LotR TCG players go for the full Dagwood
Crad0k: *everyone* hated that
UtilityPunk: Sounds like he slipped a Battle of Wits into that deck
Crad0k: one of his opponents made me count it... and it was an illegal deck so i had to dq him
Juliamon: did everyone cheer
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TeaGarrison: I love 5 Guys
Crad0k: (in the end, it didn't matter, because decipher was collapsing at the time and stopped acknowledging communication, so tourneys weren't getting registered and prizes weren't being sent)
LoadingReadyRun:
@Crad0k 
Krillin_fan: RIP Household guard, he was also a real one
DigitalSeahorse:
chillin'
Krillin_fan: things are looking dark for our hero Frodo
ThorSokar: I feel personally attacked
ThorSokar puts the counter away
LoadingReadyRun: @Krillin_fan For Frodo, on the other hand, things are looking up!
Krillin_fan: Frodo lives!
A_Dub888: Hi friends, have we found who’s Ring is the Lordest of them all?
LoadingReadyRun:
With the both players play both sides, at least *a* Frodo will make it 
saucemaster5000: it's either elijah wood frodo or the ralph bakshi frodo
TheMerricat: Chat, I just want to confirm... is Wheeler beating Angel at her own game?
Krillin_fan: frodos, much like spidermanses, come in a variety of flavors
Krillin_fan:
@TheMerricat can confirm. Although it's closer than it appears 
LoadingReadyRun: @Krillin_fan Frodo 2099 is wild
Krillin_fan: @LoadingReadyRun i loved that cartoon growing up
glitched_goddess: that Kings room was really bad for her
dolphgrim: @LoadingReadyRun My favorite is actually Frodopig
TheMerricat: Frodo Beyond was nice but I disliked the stealth ending they made for it claiming Frodo was genetically Galdalf's son.
Twilight_Spark: So do they not have rights to Haradrim?
TheDevil_Risen: they get to mordor yet?
TheDevil_Risen:

TheMerricat: One does not just walk into Mordor. FIrst they must play a card game.
dolphgrim: @TheDevil_Risen They're in the Kings Bedroom, I think. 👀
TheDevil_Risen:
ahh 
Krillin_fan: @Twilight_Spark they did, but they chose to break the Haradrim into two factions
dolphgrim: I'm sad that Gimli is dead. 😭
millenomi_Aura: I’m back! I really hope nothing bad happened to the elves
Krillin_fan: there's a lot of weight on that IF
millenomi_Aura: … oh
Twilight_Spark: Everyone else can simply die.
LoadingReadyRun:

Krillin_fan: war warg were declared
UtilityPunk: What an intense match. It's coming down to one final turn
Twilight_Spark: And who knows what I will ask for as a cost this turn?
Twilight_Spark: This is my favorite game mechanic.
LoadingReadyRun: 1,2,3,4 I declare a Warg War
dolphgrim: Is it against the rules to make the Frodos kiss? I am asking for a friend. 😥
Krillin_fan: 100% encouraged within the rules
dolphgrim: 😮
LoadingReadyRun: @dolphgrim There are no rules *against* it?
Krillin_fan: much like a dog playing basketball
LoadingReadyRun: Air Bud rules allpy
LoadingReadyRun: apply
saucemaster5000: I don't remember the two air buds kissing
dolphgrim: Incredible news. I knew growing up would be worth it.
LoadingReadyRun: @saucemaster5000 it was in one of the direct to video sequels, probably
saucemaster5000: ah of course
dolphgrim: Two Dogs kissing? Now we are just being silly.
Crad0k: if you took both frodos yourself, that probably violates tampering rules
dolphgrim: I would ask first. 🥺
Krillin_fan: its OR
millenomi_Aura: husband’s last stand
DigitalSeahorse:

UtilityPunk: bearing the ring for your own wedding is a bold move
millenomi_Aura: frodo ultradies
Krillin_fan: Frodo NOOOO
emperorchampion: tie goes to the runner!
UtilityPunk: Gandalf can probably officiate
Twilight_Spark: Nobody liked Frodo and his holier-than-thou hording of the Ring anyway.
Twilight_Spark: Better that he had given it to the strong arm of Gondor.
TeaGarrison: it was fun to watch!
RatherLargeToad: OdorF wins!
Krillin_fan: Best Is This Your Card yet! though i might be biased...
Crad0k: Angel is a Good Teacher
dolphgrim: Rip Frodo. Long live Frodo!
Crad0k: ouch to Mount Doom
millenomi_Aura: if you look for LotR Player’s Council, there are people who are running a continuation and just released new sets!
emperorchampion: ggs
ThorSokar: Oh, are we gonna play some Spellfire next?
TeaGarrison: can’t wait for next week now
Crad0k: (mount doom wasn't very well balanced, if i remember)
dolphgrim: Thanks, all. A lovely stream! 💙
millenomi_Aura: support your local continuing committees and player committees taking games back from capitalism. bye
Crad0k: thanks for the stream, lots of fun to watch
Strebenherz: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Watch + Play (There's an endless amount of bad games out there. Thankfully Graham and Alex are cool enough dudes to wade through them. It's GARBAGE DAY Y'ALL!) at Tue 05:00 PM PST (56m from now).
DigitalSeahorse:

DigitalSeahorse:

CrossXhunteR: premodern?
CrossXhunteR: ooh, piolander
TheDevil_Risen: Piolander!!!
TheDevil_Risen: lets goooo
dolphgrim: Piolanderrrr
millenomi_Aura: PI-LANDER
millenomi_Aura: nvm piolander is better
millenomi_Aura: trailblazer also great
UtilityPunk: Love pioneer, just enough spice to run torment of hailfire combos
Crad0k:
travel games? 
A_Dub888: Pielander (mmmmm pie)
KeytarCat: quick to pick up and quick to put down
TheDevil_Risen: Wheeler !
TheDevil_Risen:

TeaGarrison: what if we ship the fellows
SquareDotCube: the polycule of the ring
millenomi_Aura: we need to get the free people’s polycule through Mordor
TheDevil_Risen: its a cat
TheDevil_Risen: with a lady in red leather
KeytarCat: Cat, mid gallop
Aceviru: Lmao
Aceviru: Anyway, go Nelly!
DigitalSeahorse:
so much steamed ice
Aceviru: Snow?!?
ghizmou: is it finished ?
DigitalSeahorse:

Aceviru: HELL YEAH
Shurtal: the Snube
Juliamon: it sure is a cube
Aceviru: Now I'm in
ghizmou: I really want to see LRR "enjoy" this
Aceviru: Hahaha
Krillin_fan: Finally Arcum's Whistle is first pickable!
UtilityPunk: Oh, that sounds like Canadian summer. "There's snow in my yard!"
Shurtal: "It kept doing x!" "you searched for x!" "Yes, and i wish i hadn't!"
CrossXhunteR: did you tag it?
Aceviru: God blessed.
Krillin_fan: wait, Weathervane, not Whistle.
DigitalSeahorse:

TheAinMAP:

TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
Aceviru:

DigitalSeahorse: was that a little hamster or mouse on Wheeler's deck?
Juliamon: hamster
Juliamon: they both had Hamtaros
DigitalSeahorse: cute!
DigitalSeahorse:
time to get more food 
ContingentCat: !next
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TehAmelie: oh boy oh boy
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NewtyNewts: Looing forward to the GARBAGE
TehAmelie:
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