Aceviru: πŸ‘€
TXC2: title change!
TheAinMAP: lrrSIG lrrSIG lrrSIG
bisaflau: lrrSIG
TXC2: CONTACT
Strebenherz: wheelerOok wheelerOok wheelerOok
Aceviru: benginBop benginBop benginBop
DideRobot: LRR: Time for Is This Your Card! Today we are trying some Ashes Reborn Constructed Decks! https://twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun (has image) | https://kind.social/@LoadingReadyRun/115889822088096388
TheAinMAP: lrrFINE
RandomTrivia: lrrFINE
TXC2: Here we GO!
TheAinMAP: lrrDOTS lrrCIRCLE lrrARROW
Aceviru: (just a friendly reminder that the mic for the booth was boosted a bit for the last show)
RandomTrivia: benginDance
TXC2: MIC 5!
RandomTrivia: Oops :D No mics
RandomTrivia: Mics VERY quiet
TheAinMAP: SingsMic
millenomi_Aura: ah, the quiet
millenomi_Aura: the lack of audio
TXC2: there we go!
RandomTrivia: benginTD
Aceviru: From the top
millenomi_Aura: the inability to hear anything you'reβ€” there it is
TXC2: hello Paul
Mai_Andra: They heard chat say the mic was boosted, so they turned it way down...
TXC2: sounds good now
millenomi_Aura: all good
TXC2: it's our joke now
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millenomi_Aura: yo let's do this! let's roll some decks. shuffle some dice
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FurthestChunk: It's been a long road, getting from there to here
Strebenherz: That's fair
Mai_Andra: I have never seen that show. I only know "mawp" as the noise made by blowing out the mics...
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
Aceviru: Haha
TXC2: !patreon
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Strebenherz: What's a good mawp replacement?
Mai_Andra: There was also one last Reborn product that released after the kickstarter. ("The End of Argaia")
RandomTrivia: @Strebenherz I mean, the classic "rip headphone users" is fairly agnostic (unless it comes from somewhere unsavoury that I don't know about
Mai_Andra: What's this? Not using the basic-ass "12 lands each of two colors and nothing else"?
ShaneLeeAtk: This is what I need after a 1 on 1 with the boss.
dolphgrim: Ditch the mop, go for a deck brush and towels on your feet.
TXC2: Beej would have a good mop
RandomTrivia: Or it will turn out that Serge used to be a mop salesman in one of his many past lives
millenomi_Aura: mop literacy
EvilBadman: new show: Hey Beej This Out
TXC2: Beej: the Which Magazine of LRR
Strebenherz: Okay but id watch that
FurthestChunk: joining the mop enthusiast forum just to see what's up
PMAvers: Beej Researches The Whole Thing
Strebenherz: Mikeow
Aceviru: Oh yeah
EvilBadman: Canned piss now, hot dog
dolphgrim: Mee-yow πŸ₯΅
millenomi_Aura: THE BIT
millenomi_Aura: THE BIT!
dolphgrim: Did someone say hi-lo piccolo?
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millenomi_Aura: technically difficult
TXC2: works for Lets nope :p
Aceviru: Hey, you are likable people
Strebenherz: The prepare on stream is a nice touch. It feels relateable
Mai_Andra: generic dice? 1-2 = basic, 3-5 = class, 5 = power
TXC2: I mean, the game is gravy on the meat and potatoes of the host, that's how twitch works right?
Mai_Andra: *6 = power
Aceviru: Lol
TXC2: !clips
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hella_qh: and *Click*
RandomTrivia: Wow, this content is ass lrrBEEJ
Aceviru: Is it my birthday? We got cake
FurthestChunk: i don't think we should be clipping ben's ass
TXC2: FurthestChunk you're right, that's his partner's Job Kappa
FurthestChunk: +2
Mai_Andra: <Gary Oldman voice> "Everyone."
FurthestChunk: i found it funny...
RandomTrivia: D'awww
TXC2: I also like the beegees
Strebenherz: Aww
goombalax: reclaim Grok from the fools
Mai_Andra: How many dice are actually in there?
FurthestChunk: gork is this real
LoadingReadyRun: each player has 10 dice
Mai_Andra: Wheeler got there.
Judge_Seawee: I just say a stream highlight about them playing Atmosfear, like from October. I can't watch it as I assume its lost to time is it?
Strebenherz: @judge_seawee the vod should be on YouTube
TXC2: Judge_Seawee if it's not in the youtube highlights, and the whole vod should be on youtube, but the actual twitch clip is gone yes
RandomTrivia: It's a True Demon but with a switched boolean tag
LoadingReadyRun: @Judge_Seawee the VOD of that stream is up on our Table Top youtube cahnnel youtube.com/lrrtt
FurthestChunk: cahnnel
Judge_Seawee: im digging
millenomi_Aura: wow back to school
Judge_Seawee: ahhh its a different channel for tabletop!
goombalax: Paul you'd LOVE warhammer
DrLigmaPhD: That's just DnD combat sessions
TXC2: "get your books out" is just the wizard in DnD
Judge_Seawee: Found it! Thanks guys
millenomi_Aura: I bet it's like 'let's not enable a loop'
RandomTrivia: Kitty!
Aceviru: Hell yeah
millenomi_Aura: that's a correct use of time
FurthestChunk: and you didn't grace us with it on stream??
RandomTrivia: Flawless. 10/10
RandomTrivia: Unmatched production quality :D
PMAvers: So "unit" would be any sort of creature on the board. Allies are specifically not conjurations and are in your main deck/go to discard piles, which you can recur with Ceremonial dice.
millenomi_Aura: ah
millenomi_Aura: so that prevents getting etbs
millenomi_Aura: back
FurthestChunk: Is This Your Card, the first cancelled stream here on LoadingReadyRun
TXC2: FurthestChunk this is book of passwords erasure Kappa
millenomi_Aura: it's a strike that goes first!
FurthestChunk: natural ends are different to getting axed for low quality Kappa
RandomTrivia: D'awwww
millenomi_Aura: every game needs a Saddest Turn meme
PMAvers: Generally, I think allies are a bit more sturdy and have actual Recover values, since if it dies you can't just summon another copy via a spellbook. (and since they're actual "people.")
millenomi_Aura: Magic's would be 'draw, look at board, look at hand, can't do anything, discard to hand size'
millenomi_Aura: Netrunner is 'click for credit, click for credit, click for credit, click for credit, go'
millenomi_Aura: I promise I wasn't pushing this time XD
FurthestChunk: urborg is in play banner but for we will play netrunner
millenomi_Aura: I just saw the 'it's just what I gotta do' and honestly yes I do want the saddest turn meme to exist for every game.
ArtDecoSunburn: I'd donate a box if I could convince you play on steam sometime the bizarre 1990s Sim City TCG.
millenomi_Aura: @ArtDecoSunburn wait, what
RandomTrivia: !pobox
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ArtDecoSunburn: It's the only CCG I know with a shared deck/draw pile.
Strebenherz: @ArtDecoSunburn I'm sorry there's a SimCity tcg? lrrSPOOP
ArtDecoSunburn: Thanks for the address, Bot Friend.
ArtDecoSunburn: It's mostly math.
millenomi_Aura: wait, do you shuffle both of your constructed decks in
millenomi_Aura: this is wild
Mai_Andra: Even if you don't place an exhaustion token, it would still need to be un-exhausted in order to be chosen to attack. (unless it specifically says otherwise)
ArtDecoSunburn: And the art is 1990s snapshots of buildings from suburban Chicago.
LoadingReadyRun: lrrPAUL am I correct about preserving the values of exhausted dice? I thought that came up in last week's game
ArtDecoSunburn: @millenomi_Aura No. There's no preconstruction. It's deck building on the fly from a shared deck, with completely random pulls. You can rezone by placing your cards on top of opponents' played cards.
millenomi_Aura: huh
millenomi_Aura: proto-deckbuilder
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ArtDecoSunburn: Exactly. You score by building zones of connected thematic types of structures. The collectible boosters had extra long cards that represented valuable landmark buildings.
millenomi_Aura: I'm going to have to find it; I'm interested in the genealogy and inspiration each game got and gives, and this sounds like a really interesting stepping stone.
PMAvers: +
ArtDecoSunburn: It also had politician cards where you could vote on municipal policies, with your votes determined by the number of city council members you drew.
JKBalch: Neat
TeoKuda: isnt the knight exiled ?
ArtDecoSunburn: @millenomi_Aura It's bonkers, and I unabashedly love it. Some dealers on Ebay sell pre-constructed decks if you want to experiment with "college town" or "seaside village" archetypes.
Mai_Andra: When drawing back up to five cards in the prepare phase, they will take wounds equal to the number of cards they should have drawn but could not.
ArtDecoSunburn: @millenomi_Aura And like the video game, it tries to incorporate disasters in card form. So you can draw an "Avalanche!" or "Transit Strike!" or the like.
Mai_Andra: Fatigue damage only applies to the "Draw Cards" step of the Prepare Phase.
ArtDecoSunburn: Funny enough, some Magic players seek out old SimCity TCG cards, because it has the equivalent of undeveloped lots and terrain you can rezone, including mountains, plains, swamps, deserts, and islands.
LoadingReadyRun: lrrPAUL that SimCity game sounds neat, but just a reminder that, while we appreciate any games you want to send, there is no guarantee we will play it. (unless your are a game publisher and want to sponsor a stream, of course :P )
millenomi_Aura: there's a clip
RandomTrivia: benginO7
ArtDecoSunburn: Of course. You folks have a vision for programming. I doubt more than three people globally would be interested in this dead card game, hence why I've not written in about it before despite having followed your channel for a good many years.
millenomi_Aura: I am as a historical artifact for sure
millenomi_Aura: it may well go in the card game design library.
millenomi_Aura: there it is
LoadingReadyRun: there are lots of ways to manipulate the dice faces, but are there cards that actually change one dice for another?
ArtDecoSunburn: Were I a game publisher I would seek to sponsor a stream -- LRR seems to have really interesting demographic reach in its audience. You hit a nice balance of audiences, based on chat comments and variety of programming. More indie board game and RPG manufacturers should seek you out.
LoadingReadyRun: @ArtDecoSunburn I agree lrrAWESOME
ArtDecoSunburn: @millenomi_Aura Another odd feature was the rarity. The chase cards were suggestions written in by fans of Mayfair games, contest winners, or adds for 1990s local game shops through which the TCG was distributed. Some of them had bonkers special powers. There was no logical scheme to acquire them.
TXC2: is the 14/16 showing that Ben is close to wining or losing?
LoadingReadyRun: @TXC2 losing :(
hale4: Have they noticed the rest of the text on summon gilder since last steam?
TXC2: LoadingReadyRun oh dear, thanks
ArtDecoSunburn: @LoadingReadyRun Admittedly, you may biased. About ten years ago, when I still worked in a business school, I almost wrote you guys asking to do an interview. I wanted to do a case study of an emerging streamer business I thought was going places. You had just moved headquarters and grown your programming.
millenomi_Aura: oh, The Canonical Place To Look Into (CCGTrader's db) has what appears to be the whole thing
RandomTrivia: !birb
LRRbot: CAW CAW!
LoadingReadyRun: @ArtDecoSunburn I can't promise we would have done it, but we *do* like doing interviews and I'm always happy to chat about the business if I have time
ArtDecoSunburn: @millenomi_Aura Not surprised. There's a small but passionate following. I'm sitting on a few unopened boxes I bought for ten dollars a piece a few years ago. Too bad they never released the Toronto preconstructed deck they had plans.
ArtDecoSunburn: @LoadingReadyRun In a few years if I go back to business case studies I might reach out. I appreciate how your firm appears to be viable while still expressing very open and humanistic values.
LoadingReadyRun: @ArtDecoSunburn thank *you* for subscribing and being part of what makes that possible lrrAWESOME
RandomTrivia: It's just some guy with a big gun :D
ArtDecoSunburn: As someone who did improv, I greatly appreciate the "troupe" energy that runs through your programming slate. It's distinctive from the typical "streamer collective," and gives an earnest, "let's put on a show" vibe. It's West Coast but not U.S. West Coast.
xVoxtric: Hello I am here
Aceviru: Long hair is good, but it's a lot of upkeep.
TXC2: hello xVoxtric welcome
LoadingReadyRun: lrrPAUL Bionic Trousers Media Inc: "West Coast but not U.S. West Coast" lrrAWESOME
dpj2009: I saw benni wheels so I clicked
millenomi_Aura: correct
ArtDecoSunburn: @LoadingReadyRun I'm only familiar with one other Victoria -originating content creator, a Jonnie Penn, and there's a certain mix of technical polish and shaggy authenticity that comes across as very different from what I see come out of LA, San Francisco, or Seattle.
Temperature_Droplet: why is it bad for ben ulmer to draw cards? is this a mill strategy?
wiigamer1995: is this a newish game or an old game?
PMAvers: It's been around for a bit, it's celebrating it's 10'th anniversary recently.
SuperRiderO: I was about to say "Why are you guys shuffling? You forgetting your first five"
TXC2: right chat I'm off
millenomi_Aura: bye tyty!
TXC2: Goodnight everybody, and thanks for streaming Wheeler and Ben and Paul on tech
PMAvers: You know who you're playing against, PB-wise, and then get to pick your First Five.
Aceviru: See ya txc
hale4: PB and dice spread are known, also number of cards in the conjuration pile
SuperRiderO: Pulling off that LSV tactics. :D
hale4: No, must have the card that conjures them
SuperRiderO: LSV used to do that where he would keep random tokens in his box.
LoadingReadyRun: @ArtDecoSunburn I know that *we* feel like we have a different from the vibe some of the bigger cities, but it is nice to hear that comes across to the audience, as well
millenomi_Aura: vibes are pristine
MattIsAMage: thats how you know yugioh is a bad game, because you can call a judge in yugioh if they did fake outs like that
Aceviru: It's been a good type of backseating
dpj2009: !card meditate
LRRbot: Meditate [2U] | Instant | Draw four cards. You skip your next turn.
millenomi_Aura: HEYO
FurthestChunk: show this chat to fnpf chat and watch their minds implode
cheshire_creeper: CBT stands for Cool Bit sTreamer
RandomTrivia: @MattIsAMage When I first learned about how strict Yugioh's information policy had become (I haven't played since like 2013) I was gobsmacked. What do you mean, I can't tell my opponent that my hand contains 5 copies of Gorz? Boring.
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
Aceviru: Lol jesus
Aceviru: I felt that one
FurthestChunk: It'd wake you right up
FurthestChunk: That's one thing
millenomi_Aura: the bit was too good to plan a turn
MattIsAMage: @RandomTrivia truely
ArtDecoSunburn: @LoadingReadyRun There is a sense of place that comes across in the banter and shared references that feels lived in. Your rotating and overlapping cast -- mixture of friends, couples, work colleagues -- gives the impression of a well-tuned college troupe, with Victoria as your campus. I'm not the audience for everything LRR does, but I admire how cohesively you do the variety of what you do do. I imagine that's true for many chat lurkers.
MattIsAMage: we also had this conversation today?! is marmite secretly advertising?
PMAvers: On a side note, if Ben has the copy of The Frostwild Scourge nearby, it has the errata'd version of the Owl in it.
ArtDecoSunburn: @MattIsAMage Hard to avoid Big Marmite. They stir during Southern Hemisphere summer.
lightfut: Happy birthday to the ground
RandomTrivia: It's not a real card game tabletop game if it doesn't take as long to tidy up as it does to play a game
hale4: You get the option to continue or not each time.
hale4: Also if it hasn't been mentioned already, meditate allows setting a dice to any face, not just raising one side
millenomi_Aura: cock-a-doodle-doo.
FurthestChunk: dog i was not keeping track lmao
FurthestChunk: it feels like it's one that falls just outside the top 5 though
FurthestChunk: also i want you to realise you just asked for the librarian
LoadingReadyRun: lrrPAUL is starting the first turn by putting out a bunch of summon cards pretty typical?
ArtDecoSunburn: @RandomTrivia "Reboxing, the Game! Skip the Euro point salad. The real competition is who can get all the chits, meeples, and cards back in the box!"
PMAvers: It *is* kind of interesting how the Gilder is two-color out of the box, where you have to spend a Charm to play it, and a Nature to actually summon the Gilder.
Mai_Andra: It's common for decks built on conjurations, but some decks lean more heavily into allies instead.
ArtDecoSunburn: I feel like the tableau element is an evolution of traditional TCG overlayed with 2010s board game.
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loufghyslaufey: Coin it! The phrasing should be lrrBEN 's (patent pending)
loufghyslaufey: With a slight chance of Bionic Trousers lawsuit(s!?)
ArtDecoSunburn: @loufghyslaufey No one presses a suit like the lawyer for a pair of trousers.
LoadingReadyRun: lrrPAUL I do wish the art on the "Summon <unit>" cards looked a bit more different. they could still all be books, without them all looking almost identical
SuperRiderO: I still don't quite understand the new model of Ashes. You just have to order the stuff on their site now and it's printed when you order?
LoadingReadyRun: @SuperRiderO I believe they also have boxed deck products, but you can *also* have cards printed on demand
ArtDecoSunburn: @LoadingReadyRun An interesting mechanic would be a secret book that looks like one thing then reveals to be another book entirely, with a false cover.
hale4: @SuperRiderO Yes, they moved to a print on demand system for older products. The new releasees will still get printed initially
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ArtDecoSunburn: Is LadyAdalace a nod to Ada Lovelace?
SuperRiderO: I wanted to get into Ashes when the game was just Ashes. Then it died so I didn't bother. Then Reborn came out but I was neck deep in like a bilion other TCGs and picked up the Ashes Reborn box a while back but hadn't picked up any PB packs.
LadyAdalace: @artdecosunburn 100%! Love when people catch that 😁
division_ring: I missed the card play... what has Ben been pinging Wheeler for 1 with?
division_ring: Does one of the summon books do that?
ArtDecoSunburn: @LadyAdalace Gotta respect the lady who arguably created the algorithm.
LadyAdalace: She's the queen of programming, so naturally!
LoadingReadyRun: The important aspect of how the Ashes model works is, because the game is sold in set decks instead of random boosters, there isn't really "rarity" so all cards cost the same to print on demand
division_ring: Ah, ok. I thought I was getting a legacy/reborn change confused or something. :D
Ya_Boy_In_Deep: whoa this looks fancy /complicated
SuperRiderO: I get that part, It's more or less an LCG. Just they did a "Ascendency" thing and it made it confusing to me.
ArtDecoSunburn: @LoadingReadyRun I imagine a POD card company where rarity is the material printed on. Want a parchment card? Vellum? Aluminum?
LoadingReadyRun: @ArtDecoSunburn Ada Lovelace, creator of the youtube algorithm :P
ArtDecoSunburn: @LadyAdalace She and Grace Hopper. When I was a professor, I used to sponsor Ada Lovelace Day high teas with the undergraduate women computer scientist organizations.
sadfleck: wheelerMuldcb wheelerY wheelerH
hale4: @SuperRiderO Ascendancy is basically just a rebranding and cleanup of the PvE system.
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ArtDecoSunburn: @LoadingReadyRun "Thanks to my special guest, Charlie Babbage. Smash that like and subscribe button. Join my Patreon for exclusive Lord Byron sonnets!"
hale4: They also did some rules cleanup and a little errata, but not to the degree between original and reborn. And moved pre-ascendancy products to the PoD system primarily
LadyAdalace: I actually was going to mention Grace Hopper along with Lovelace but didn't want to go on a tangent. Unfortunately, Grace Hopper's name makes a worse name for a D&D character
LadyAdalace: Which is why I made this name
ArtDecoSunburn: @LadyAdalace Unless she's a sentient Grasshopper with data-bending powers.
ArtDecoSunburn: @LadyAdalace Fair enough. I'd watch that game, where Ada translates the Italian mathematical treatise on a critical success roll.
SuperRiderO: @hale4 So, Red Reign?
ArtDecoSunburn: @LadyAdalace "That's Admiral Grasshopper to you, ensign!" (eats her mate, burps, programs the Univac)
LadyAdalace: @ArtDecoSunburn Can we be best friends?
hale4: @SuperRiderO Sorry, I've missed your meaning :D
ArtDecoSunburn: @LadyAdalace Who says Ashes Reborn doesn't bring people together with its print-on-demand system!
division_ring: Ascendancy also gives the two new dice types, so there's presumably another 30-odd Phoenixborn in the pipeline. :D
SuperRiderO: @hale4 I meant Red Rains* But you said it was cleaning up their PVE enviroment and I thought that was just the Red Rains stuff.
hale4: @SuperRiderO Right, yes. Red rains is the original PvE system. With ascendancy they introduced 'dragonborn' a new PvE system that's basically a refined version of the chimera from red rains
hale4: They're close enough to probably be interoperable with a few tweaks (I haven't tried myself though)
ArtDecoSunburn: @division_ring So it hits the sweet spot of laying cards and rolling dice?
division_ring: I'm sure *somebody* is working on a Commander style change to Ashes where you get 20 dice and 60 HP in a 4 player game. :P
hale4: @division_ring Strictly speaking, it is already compatible with 4, player multiplayer. But it's not super designed for it, and games tend to get much longer
division_ring: Yeah. basically every card game from the last 10 years makes sure it's got a 4 player commander-like mode.
division_ring: I think the big change would be the 'big dice rolling' idea of giving more resources. :D
ArtDecoSunburn: @division_ring Once again I plug the original Sim City TCG. 4 player before it was cool! (Laughs)
VoyRising: Hammer Knight is pretty rough to counter from what I remember of playing this.
hale4: @division_ring Yeah, it doesn't cost much design wise to just make sure your cards work in multiplayer, and then you get to put '1-4 player' on the box :D
ArtDecoSunburn: @hale4 I'd like to make a 1-7 player game just to throw off the BoardGameGeek categorization.
hale4: @ArtDecoSunburn Lol
ArtDecoSunburn: "Anchornaut" sounds like a made up NASA mission specialist.
Mai_Andra: The original Ashes rulebook was written for 2-4 players. Reborn was re-written to be specifically for 2 players.
Koopan: So is this an expansion from the OG Ashes or a new game entirely?
millenomi_Aura: Reborn is a newer edition afaiui
Aceviru: Cycle your limbs and stretch your fluids, folks
SuperRiderO: It's an updated version. There's an eratta kit if you have the older cards so you don't have to buy the newer versions of each PB
Mai_Andra: Wheeler playing Jericho? Yeah, that was fore-shadowed at the end of last week...
division_ring: @hale4 I just wish "Game in a box" was as popular as "casual 4 player format". Love that an LCG just lets you buy the game and not have to get a 2nd mortgage for a playset.
division_ring: Wishing the best for their POD system to keep the older stuff available for people coming in post Ascendancy.
Therebrae: Ashes giving full playsets on their products is one of the reasons I bought in way back during original core.
Therebrae: Same reason I loved Android Netrunner
division_ring: @Therebrae Has anybody been doing the 'core box is only half a playset' since FFG stopped doing LCGs? I *think* the practice died with them.
Therebrae: I mean FFG still does LCGs, but the new core sets for Arkham Horror LCG is full playsets now rather than half.
RandomTrivia: Ah yes, the theme from the Perfectly Fine Sea lrrBEEJ
SuperRiderO: How is E33 a rhythm game....
Juliamon: there's a rhythm to attacks, and a gorgeous soundtrack
GapFiller: SuperRiderO phffft you people and your silly genre categorisations lrrLUL
Xaunaught: lmao
Dog_of_Myth: lrrLUL
GapFiller: You Tell Em G
millenomi_Aura: D:
Koopan: Drop it you won't
humusk: that hoodie is a beautiful color!
millenomi_Aura: yeah it rocks
millenomi_Aura: big hammer
Therebrae: Are they using the chained list?
PMAvers: Divine
Dog_of_Myth: Big Hammer
division_ring: Hamm-Ar
Haroldholmes25: hell yeah
ArtDecoSunburn: Does "Jericho Reborn" come with a "Pissed at Trumpets" trait?
Mai_Andra: Sympathy
PMAvers: Might want to talk about what the dice powers are?
Therebrae: It's funny because sympathy is one of the best ones.
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL lrrWOW
ArtDecoSunburn: "Turtle is the best one" -- 18th century soup chef/1990s teenage cartoon aficionado
RandomTrivia: Sympathy horse? That's a unicorn
division_ring: I think they should figure out a way to drill a big hole in the table, so they can rotate that arrow symbol on the playmat to indicate whose turn it is. >.>
Mai_Andra: Weird, I never knew Squall's last name.
Dog_of_Myth: Squall Stallion is just a Chocobo
Therebrae: Jericho deck - intricate combos. Xander deck - STOMPY DINOSAURS.
division_ring: Hey, here's a summon that isn't a book - just for Paul. :D
HiimDant: I don't know what this deck is, but I see dino riders, this game rips
HiimDant: what this game is* even
niccus: turtles can hold a lot of time
Therebrae: I'm pretty sure that turtles can hold exactly 1 time.
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lightfut: And then they did the same bit with the flash movie and it suuuuuuucked
division_ring: 2nd best Quicksilver time slowing scene is the Gauss Prime trailer. :P
Dog_of_Myth: #BlameJames
EvilBadman: James ate them instead of Wheetabix
RandomTrivia: What a cool concept
ArtDecoSunburn: @DideRobot That's a nice idea for a series.
WiJohn: I watched it, it was fun!
Aceviru: It was good:D
Dog_of_Myth: Watched it before this stream, It was great
Strebenherz: Serge and lil robots!
division_ring: I'm curious - is there a reason to not be using the wound & status tokens that come with the game? Just habit from Magic where you might have 30+ tokens?
Therebrae: And it may combo well with Xander's PB card.
RandomTrivia: Benjamin "Benoit Blanc" Wheeler
Mai_Andra: Oh, that's where the frogs have been going all this time.
Therebrae: This is one of the parts I love about Ashes resources. You can play a huge spread of dices, but it hurts your consistency and makes you meditate more.
Therebrae: And things like illusion can exist where it 'downgrades' resources without completely taking them away. It's really intricate and cool.
ArtDecoSunburn: @Therebrae How interesting. Thank you for highlighting this.
ArtDecoSunburn: @Mai_Andra Did you hear about the fungus killing frogs in Panama? It's genuinely terrifying.
Therebrae: I can't tell if genuine or sarcasm, but I'm going to pretend genuine for my pride.
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL benginChaos
ArtDecoSunburn: @Therebrae Sorry if that came across as unclear. A genuine compliment. I am unfamiliar with this game and appreciate your pointing out what is distinctive.
division_ring: @Therebrae Then of course you splash for something like Shifting Mists to just meditate for free.
Therebrae: <3
Aceviru: *inb4 boxes start flying across the room*
division_ring: I didn't *mean* for the token question to get a shot of an empty table while people look for yellow dice or whatever, but I'll take it.
ArtDecoSunburn: @RandomTrivia So you're saying Glenn Close will cameo this match?
LoadingReadyRun: ya, the dice resource system is very interesting. It means that, unlike most games, you don't actually increase your resources during the game.
Therebrae: A big part of ashes is that you are HARD limited to 10 dice per turn (the designers learned the hard way from Ashes 1.0 that cheating extra dice is not good for gameplay), and you get them all at the start. Often card draw is pretty easy and still not great because you are limited on dice.
dolphgrim: Cute Dino alert!
ArtDecoSunburn: @LoadingReadyRun It's like a microcosm of post-inflation Spanish Empire of the 18th Century.
Therebrae: 10 dice per round*
LoadingReadyRun: Raptherder
Mai_Andra: Are they still on your head? lrrPistachio
Therebrae: Also the joys of Cerasaurous mount - If you have an ally for it you can side action summon and then main action swing with it before opponent gets to react to it.
ArtDecoSunburn: @Therebrae Now I'm envisioning someone trying to cheat by seeing if they can slip in a D12 or D20 without anyone noticing.
Therebrae: oh no
Therebrae: it's happening
division_ring: @ArtDecoSunburn Just a really large d6 with multiple symbols on each face.
ArtDecoSunburn: Ha!
RandomTrivia: Does armored prevent ALL damage in one instance? That seems very strong
RandomTrivia: Oh wait, it only does 1 to everything else
Therebrae: That's right. It's 4 to 1, 1 to everything else. Armored 1 only prevents 1 damage.
ArtDecoSunburn: @division_ring One of those transparent cubes with a D6 inside another D6. "I actually rolled two faces."
PMAvers: So it's funny that Molten Gold was actually banned until recently, when it got errata'd so the cost was 2 (nature) leafs but can only target units instead of being able to target anything.
Juliamon: :)
Aceviru: Hahaha
RandomTrivia: Oh fucking lol
RandomTrivia: benginLUL
Aceviru: Hi Graham
Dog_of_Myth: lrrLUL
lightfut: Enter Graham for the lul
millenomi_Aura: LOL LMAO
EvilBadman: All right, restart the show
lightfut: Blended in very well, I can't say I saw it until Ben grabbed it
RatherLargeToad: of course of course
Aceviru: Today's the day where various parts of Graham show up. Loving it
division_ring: @ArtDecoSunburn I use my polarbeardog die to summon the avatar.
EvilBadman: find one of those foil Desert Bus stickers and slap it on that dice box :P
LoadingReadyRun: I bet you guys all saw them and were laughing at us :(
EvilBadman: @LoadingReadyRun The blended in so well
ArtDecoSunburn: @division_ring Amazing.
Aceviru: @LoadingReadyRun Too busy looking at the well dressed lads
Therebrae: Wraths in this deck? Probably not. In this game? Absolutely.
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ArtDecoSunburn: I'm wondering if the mechanics of this would allow a control deck that does slight manipulations to your and your opponent's dice faces via cards. A sort of dice-modifying "death and taxes" variation.
Therebrae: @ArtDecoSunburn Those decks very much exist.
ArtDecoSunburn: Nifty. Makes sense.
Therebrae: Illusion's big thing is manipulation of your opponent's dice pool
division_ring: IIRC they had to beat those decks to death in the Reborn edition because they were so powerful.
Therebrae: Illusion now does "spindown" which reduces sides. Pre-Reborn Illusion just moved dice to the exhausted pool 1 for 1.
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Mai_Andra: In the original version, you could take dice away from you opponent entirely, as well as add more dice to your own pool. In the new version, they lessened those effects to simply change the face of dice already in the active pool.
Therebrae: It IS your reaction
Therebrae: The blue textbox is the "reaction" textbox. It's in the detailed rulebook, but it could certainly use the word 'reaction' on it.
ArtDecoSunburn: @Mai_Andra I imagine a sadistic variation where you substitute dice from other games into your opponent's hand. "Catan dice? I rolled a sheep?"
division_ring: @Therebrae Are you sure? I thought that was the 'perpetual effect' box. Or... whatever it was called. The box for effects that exist even when the card isn't in play.
Therebrae: They wanted to find a way to make units with reaction text, because prior to them, reaction SPELLS existed, but there's no such thing as a reaction unit.
Therebrae: @division_ring The yellow box is inexhaustible. Different colored box.
Therebrae: But that ally can also be played as a non-reaction.
Therebrae: I agree, in the reaction text box it could be more clear. Changing it from "After a unit comes into play..." to "As a reaction, after a unit comes into play..." would add clarity.
division_ring: @Therebrae I'm probably mandela-ing myself; I thought one of the box types was for 'out of play' abilities.
division_ring: I don't *think* inexhaustible abilities still exist in discard, for instance.
Therebrae: That's right
Therebrae: @division_ring You wanna know what? I think in pre-reborn you're right, there were perpetual boxes.
Therebrae: Parallel is just 1 I think.
RandomTrivia: Is it like hybrid mana?
RandomTrivia: Neat
Therebrae: Fate reflection heavily hoses earthquake though. Reflecting 4 is huge.
Therebrae: That's right. Armored would protect from the 1 from Nature's Wrath, then the 1 from fate reflection.
hale4: All correct
VoyRising: That is the correct way to do that yes
nevyn666: wheeler with the crisp haircut. looking good.
Dog_of_Myth: lrrLUL
division_ring: @Therebrae Ah, ok, that's it. Took a bit to find a legacy rules reference but that's why. :D
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL Ooof
Aceviru: As merfolk player...I felt that
PMAvers: something something bless the rain
RandomTrivia: That was very Plague Engineer Name Goblin of you Ben
Aceviru: @RandomTrivia Haha
Therebrae: Your deck has lots of horses and tools to protect horses.
Therebrae: Like Fate reflection turns back earthquakes, gilders protect them from attacks
division_ring: This match felt like "Intricate Machine" vs. "Jund Em".
ArtDecoSunburn: @Therebrae Sounds like that LoTR deck from a few weeks ago.
ArtDecoSunburn: @Therebrae I'd love to see lore for a hang glider that staves off earthquakes.
luke1x: This game seems wild
Therebrae: Also text with numbered abilities stack. So terrifying 1 stacks, it would become terrifying 3, which means that things with 3 or less attack can't block or guard it.
RandomTrivia: HypeLUL
Therebrae: Take a look at explosive growth with horses.
RvLeshrac: pmavers was last seen on a flight to South America.
PMAvers: Also don't forget you can always guard for one of your units, if you need to protect a key unit from a attack.
Therebrae: You can guard with your face
PMAvers: Your Phoenixborn can guard.
Therebrae: Your phoenixborn can guard once per round.
Mai_Andra: Once per round, you can guard with your phoenixborn.
RvLeshrac: Your Phoenixborn can yeah
ArtDecoSunburn: @PMAvers Arizona folk are noted for defensive prowess.
Aceviru: Hey it's a learning experience. I'm here for the show and having these key moments helps
VoyRising: This game is fun to draft
division_ring: Yeah, don't even need to make the decks.
division_ring: Though having your 'never played Ashes' friend do a draft...
Therebrae: Somebody did make a full battlebox. So every PB has a competitive deck (at least in the format). You probably can't take them to a tournament, but the decks are balanced against eachother.
ArtDecoSunburn: @division_ring "Ashes, ashes, they all fall down."
jessicaengle: Cable knit sweaterrrrrrrrr
division_ring: And of course there's the PvE mode for those board game nights where you don't want to punch each other's faces.
millenomi_Aura: Living Card Game, A Registered Trademark of Fantasy Flight Games,
Aceviru: And like Wheeler pointed out, the backseating on this particular game has been good. Not too heavy on the leads.
millenomi_Aura: A Fully Owned Subsidiary of Asmodee North America.
PMAvers: I think they once were asked why they didn't make this as a TCG since they could make more money that way, and they answered something like: "but why? We're profitable, and we don't feel like treating our customers like money sinks."
VoyRising: I'm super jazzed y'all played this, I've been hoping you would for a long time now.
millenomi_Aura: @PMAvers this is going to be Card Games That Don't Murder Your Wallet Winter
Therebrae: Ascendancy is baller, excited for y'all.
RvLeshrac: Also, LGSes *HATE* buying new TCG product, because the vast majority of it sits on the shelf until the game dies from lack of ANY support, and then they have to sell $10k worth of product they were forced to buy in to, for $100.
jessicaengle: lrrSHINE lrrSHINE lrrSHINE
division_ring: @millenomi_Aura That needs to be the name of the next card game variety show on LRR network. :D
jessicaengle: Thanks Ben!
jessicaengle: !paullove
LRRbot: It's not Paul's fault, no matter what the streamer says.
Mai_Andra: I think there were 28 Phoenixborn decks, plus 7 more alternate decks, in the Reborn product line.
RandomTrivia: Good bit, streamers
Aceviru: Hahaha
millenomi_Aura: hi!
Dog_of_Myth: lrrLUL
luke1x: Good bit
Aceviru: Time to hide the tokens again
millenomi_Aura: happy snake move night!
niccus: snank
jessicaengle: That sounds like a game that would be on Watch and Play "Everyone's coming over to my house tonight to move a snake tank"
Invitare: but snakes can't drive a tank, they don't have arms...
ArtDecoSunburn: @millenomi_Aura Apples for everyone!
RandomTrivia: Wheeler, you made this bed, so lie in it :D
jessicaengle: Killteams on the Street?
RvLeshrac: If it helps, there *IS* a bit of consumer-unfriendliness in that Team Covenant gets to sell and ship retail product 3-9 months before anyone else, but they also kept the game alive so...
division_ring: @RvLeshrac That's going away with Ascendency.
millenomi_Aura: well, February will have a game where cards you print on your home printer are legal at Worlds,
millenomi_Aura: so.
millenomi_Aura: :)
millenomi_Aura: yessss hades 2!!!
Juliamon: the ashestray
millenomi_Aura: pfff
division_ring: I'm looking at this pile of Ashes, and can't help but think they're missing like ... half the PBs.
PMAvers: It'll be nice if/whenever that storage box from the kickstarter decides to ship.
RandomTrivia: It represents the death of english board games lrrBEEJ
ArtDecoSunburn: Bonus streams are fun.
RvLeshrac: Funny enough, slightly smaller than the Ashes Big Box.
ThorSokar: oh, myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
millenomi_Aura: this is fan service
millenomi_Aura: _collector_ huh
RandomTrivia: The most decadent draft
ContingentCat: We love weirdos
millenomi_Aura: the crack-a-pack question is not hypothetical anymore
Mai_Andra: The Deluxe box for Thunderstone Quest is already too big and much too heavy. The box for Ashes is even bigger... NotLikeThis
millenomi_Aura: oops! all rares
personguy101: also final fantasy i think
Aceviru: Also, yeah Angel was right you look good in that sweater. It has a good pattern to it
EvilBadman: yeah ya'all did it with FF
ArtDecoSunburn: (Two Rolls Royces sit next to one another. "Pardon me, do you have any collector boosters?" )
Darleysam: and Andy Serkis
millenomi_Aura: Best indie triple A game of the year and Andy Serkis and AI art.
RvLeshrac: @Mai_Andra I have all of TSQ sleeved, it's three of those Smash Up big boxes. I also have a fourth box to prepare for the next set.
FurthestChunk: We love delicious bait around here
ekplayscards: HI CHAT
millenomi_Aura: Unbeatable goty.
RvLeshrac: The Ashes Big Box is about the same size as the Vindication big box.
FurthestChunk: Bad games like Kingdom Hearts 1
aitsu100: KH2 is much better
ArtDecoSunburn: @RvLeshrac Wow.
Aceviru: Lol
Dog_of_Myth: lrrLUL
millenomi_Aura: I played KH and now I almost have a job because of it.
RandomTrivia: Thanks for the stream, Ben, Ben and Paul!
RandomTrivia: lrrSHINE lrrSHINE lrrSHINE
millenomi_Aura: bye!
Aceviru: Alright, time to get out the trash bags
Aceviru: (it's garbage day)
Strebenherz: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Watch + Play (There's an endless amount of bad games out there. Thankfully Graham and Alex are cool enough dudes to wade through them. It's GARBAGE DAY Y'ALL!) at Tue 05:00 PM PST (51m from now).
Mai_Andra: @RvLeshrac Mine is mostly not sleeved, but I have it in two of those boxes. (Except for the two from the last kickstarter.) It's funny the kickstarter started saying "the 'all in' package which ship on its own. We can't add any more weight..."
Damon_1977: Another "pro" stream. Lol