millenomi_Aura: yo chat!
millenomi_Aura: I'll repeat it before we go live, but I want everyone — especially the pals over at LRR — to have fun! I'm here to answer questions and to help with rules trouble as it arises, and it would mean a lot to me if you can avoid giving a detailed or long answer to a rules question so that mine is a little more glanceable/visible and doesn't get crowded out.
hyralt: o7 you've got it, Millenomi
millenomi_Aura: Also, I know there are going to be a lot of Netrunner faces, lol — please let the Bens enjoy themselves _and_ discover bits about the game by themselves! It's part of the pleasure of the game.
millenomi_Aura: Be good, let them have fun!
hyralt: Roger roger
millenomi_Aura: Otherwise, hi, Aura here, part of the Narrative team at Null Signal Games and ill-advised sender of Netrunner goods.
millenomi_Aura: tyty @hyralt!
hyralt: Hi Aura!
hyralt:
Thanks again for making this happen. 
millenomi_Aura: let's run some neeeeeets
hyralt: let's goooooooo
millenomi_Aura: the boys have netwalked. now it's time to netrun
hyralt: hell yeah
millenomi_Aura: they* pay me the big bucks to make jokes like these! *no one
InfiniteNutshell: @millenomi_Aura noted! I'll try to stay concise
InfiniteNutshell: also, hey hi hello
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hyralt: Hello!
millenomi_Aura: hihi!
InfiniteNutshell: I am Jamie, the Rules Manager at NSG, so I will also probably be chiming in on rules questions, but I'm gonna defer to aura's lead on coordinating with the LRR folks in general
CWaltz86: @millenomi_Aura wow i cant believe you sold out for 0 buck nothing.
hyralt: Hi Jamie!
CWaltz86: hi jamie
Manae: !next
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TXC2:
Manae 
Manae:
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itsme_orly: LETS GOOOOOO NETRUNNNNEEERRRR
CWaltz86: time?
hyralt: Hello @TXC2
TXC2: title change
TXC2: hello hyralt
millenomi_Aura: @CWaltz86 love of the game baby
CWaltz86: so real
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Rockman4140: Digging the music
hyralt: @MinaMiaoMian Excited to run some nets?
Juliamon: what the hell is that going live photo lmao
Rockman4140: Yessssss I love Webjogger.
bytecaster: @Juliamon That's your brain on netrunner
TXC2: right who got Wheeler baked again?
itsme_orly: That's LEO players after hearing about their new 5/3
LoadingReadyRun: @Juliamon That was Wheeler's "I'm an evil Corporation" face
evilbrennan: Loading ready netrunnnneeeer!
hyralt: @Juliamon LEO Construction
InfiniteNutshell: netrunnLRR
Dog_of_Myth: Good afternoon all
TXC2: LEO = Law Enforcement Officer?
CWaltz86: also @hyralt ty for the gifsub
TXC2: hello Dog_of_Myth welcome
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Me when the net is being run.
tiwanll: Oh boy netrunner
InfiniteNutshell: @TXC2 Low Earth Orbit
hyralt: @CWaltz86 You're welcome!
TXC2: InfiniteNutshell ah
Zerothmaxima: Present
hyralt: @TXC2 Low Ear....yeah, Jamie beat me to it
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: @TXC2 Low Earth Orbit. So LEO Construction is all about... space construction.
millenomi_Aura: Hi y'all, thank you for being here! A note: I want everyone — especially the pals over at LRR — to have fun, and I'm here to answer questions and to help with rules trouble as it arises, and it would mean a lot to me if you can avoid giving a detailed or long answer to a rules question so that mine is a little more glanceable/visible and doesn't get crowded out.
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Rootpotato: Hey streamer I got a question. Is your net running?
TXC2: hello Raiders
millenomi_Aura: Please also let the boys discover interactions and the like by themselves! it's part of the fun!
hyralt: Welcome @junipertheory raiders!
TXC2: !backseat
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junipertheory: HI!! I'm the other NSG person who helped organize this, haha. Millenomi did most of the work but we've been coordinating on the decks and things!
CWaltz86: hi juniperrr
Anubis169:
heya junipertheory 
InfiniteNutshell: seems like wheeler is gonna be on LEO, do we know which runner ben picked?
hyralt: Dang @junipertheory you're already subbed. Beat me to it.
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UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica:
I've got Jinteki.net open on one monitor, LRR on the other. It's a Netrunner kind of night.
millenomi_Aura: This is Juniper, Media Team lead at Null Signal Games! And I'm Aura, a member of the Narrative teams.
millenomi_Aura: team, even.
TehAmelie: i don't know what Netrunner is but i'm hyped
millenomi_Aura: the one.
Anubis169:
hiya millenomi_Aura
doubleo21 watched 15 consecutive streams and sparked a watch streak!
Ready to net some runs.
TXC2: Here we GO!
Anubis169: strap in Chat
TXC2: hello junipertheory welcome
InfiniteNutshell: this opening is such a jam
CWaltz86: *gasp* opening theme
hyralt: Get the funk out
junipertheory: I didn't know there WAS an opening theme
Anubis169:
NoxStryx:
This is a game about chasing butterflies right? 
millenomi_Aura: : )
TXC2: Hello Wheeler and Ben
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hyralt: New?
Getter404: "New"
TXC2: Hello Paul on tech
InfiniteNutshell: hey @tinaun! fancy seeing you here
millenomi_Aura: pffff
Anubis169: !patreon
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TXC2: !patreon
Izhuark: Hello everyone !
Anubis169: lol
millenomi_Aura: YARRRR
TXC2: hello raiders
Anubis169: !store
the_bubble_machine watched 10 consecutive streams and sparked a watch streak!
nice
Izhuark: Oh standard decks, exciting !
CWaltz86: so tell me! did you wish on a shooting star!
Rockman4140: Click to give LRR a credit
tinaun: @InfiniteNutshell hi jamie
NoxStryx: And now the vod is muted.
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millenomi_Aura: HE SAID IT
Rockman4140: Whooo!
TXC2:
speaking of LEO, that DMCA takedown gonna crash in any minute 
millenomi_Aura: CAN'T TAKE IT BACK NOW
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica:
1000 Let's go Netrunner! Giving you money! Like you talked about!
Anubis169: ^
CrossXhunteR: just finished the mystic vale VOD yesterday. need to go back and finish netrunner episode 1, since that game was a barrage of info and confusion
SteelCityMTG: True fact: netrunner rules
millenomi_Aura: Null Signal Games
Anubis169: 'ello Steel
tiwanll: spiderbro from NSG checking in!
millenomi_Aura: we're pros for freee
Izhuark: @hyralt Thank you very much, I I Appreciate it a lot !
junipertheory: When you're all volunteers, you end up with a lot of people haha to get everything done
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Signal Game Null? 
Kentosaurus: I think the null is silent
hyralt: @Izhuark You're welcome!
millenomi_Aura: workshop it
CWaltz86: Game Signull
Anubis169:
Null Signal Games 
(null games signal is when the hdmi cable dies)
larrea000: we just make this one game actually
EvilBadman: Don't get whammied
NoxStryx: National Broadcast News?
ThrinagaBattleheart: @Anubis169 LOL yeah
millenomi_Aura: : )
TXC2: Game? Null Signal
InfiniteNutshell: "the discord" = GLC?
evilbrennan: I'm one of those!
Anubis169: Hi one of those, I'm Anubis
ThrinagaBattleheart: I was looking at a couple stores near where I live, and I can buy cards but apparently no meetups T_T
Anubis169: 💨
ThrinagaBattleheart: But there's still Jnet
hyralt: Yesssssss....Wheeler Inc
CrossXhunteR: btw, the mystic vale stream was a ton of fun. looking forward to the run back in the future
Rockman4140: I hope Wheeler hates to love Corp like I do.
millenomi_Aura: you netwalked. time to netrun
InfiniteNutshell: normal week at NSG
Walbogz: Looking forward to these decks! Excited to really see the bens explore the depth of this game.
millenomi_Aura: normal
InfiniteNutshell: so often I find myself having accidentally written an essay
jonesinforjosie: oh yay, esa time
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Oh baby!
millenomi_Aura: YESSSS
odddirective: Esa v LEO?!
WaltTheWizard: ESA TIME
Mr_Bitterness: Knew it would be Anarch!
CWaltz86: i did think Ben would go orange
larrea000: they are Adult cards
Zerothmaxima: No more Symmetrical Visage
ThrinagaBattleheart: Adult cards?! Oh my
CrossXhunteR: does Netrunner in its current state have rotation? i see the stream title with "Standard" in it
jipeel: card pool jump is the best way to get domed by realities you didnt even know existed
WaltTheWizard: @CrossXhunteR Yes
TXC2:
"Labour solutions" sounds 1000000% like corpo speak for slaves 
InfiniteNutshell: root means not ice
odddirective: In the bottom of or in front of
NoxStryx: NSG folk, Ben likes weird little guys (and non humans) why no weird little guys in the NSG runners?
InfiniteNutshell: protecting means ic
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Root is inside the server, protecting is the ice.
InfiniteNutshell: e
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millenomi_Aura: The root is where you install cards in a server, but there is also ice that is bioroid.
millenomi_Aura: yep!
Mr_Bitterness: Usually after dragging Ben through all the ICE
larrea000: @CrossXhunteR It has had a few rotations under FFG and a few faster rotations under NSG
LordZarano: Low Earth Orbit, it's friends know it as Leo
InfiniteNutshell: I don't think the bens have seen the upgrade card type yet
junipertheory: "Root" means installed in the server, 'protecting" just means it's any ice on the server
millenomi_Aura: Yep exactly!
odddirective: It's just "existing in the place the runner is running"
InfiniteNutshell: which is pretty important to understand for LEO
LordZarano: *its
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Ohhhh man, H-B being a glacier is giving me positive flashbacks to NEXT Silver
ThrinagaBattleheart: Faust? Lol nope, get outta here
CWaltz86: @ThrinagaBattleheart ya p much
odddirective: Glacier, rush, kill, fast advance combo
Walbogz: So I was looking up the history of this game, it's crazy to see the devotion the fans have. So much dedication and passion.
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: BURN THE WORLD DOWN!
millenomi_Aura: Esa, xi/xir
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Sabotage is super powerful but it gives the choice to the corp.
couchboyj: Im shocked, shocked! Well, not that shocked
NoxStryx: Those get trashed face down right?
odddirective: You can break up
millenomi_Aura: To sabotage, you discard any number of cards from your hand and the rest facedown from the top of your deck, yeah.
junipertheory: Sabotage means you choose; you gotta do X cards total, but you do any combination of discard or mill for that, yeah
WaltTheWizard: You can break it up, but you pick the ratio before flipping off RND.
ThrinagaBattleheart: Yes, trashed face-down
TXC2: Portuguese first name, Slavic Second name is an interesting combo
ThrinagaBattleheart: Since the Runner doesn't know what they are necessarily
Mr_Bitterness: Notably Core Damage lowers Ben's max hand size
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: This is kind of like mono-black aggro in MTG.
junipertheory: And note that core damage PERMENANTLY reduces your hand size. Other damage types just discard cards, but this one is PERMENANT
larrea000: @TXC2 the future of Netrunner is extremely multicultural
CWaltz86: this isnt tagme right?
NoxStryx: Mill him a bunch then run archives
kevinth2: hand size is a resource
TXC2: larrea000 clearly
CWaltz86: (ive also been out of the game a while too)
larrea000: @CWaltz86 this isnt tagme this is hurtme
CWaltz86: gotcha
millenomi_Aura: Yep, you got it!
odddirective: Esa is repeated body blows to the corp
ThrinagaBattleheart: Also, probably cybernetics too
millenomi_Aura: Core damage discards cards and also gives you -1 hand size permanently yep!
Mr_Bitterness: You still discard with Core damage, and you ALSO reduce your max hand size
NoxStryx: Core damage used to be brain damage right?
ThrinagaBattleheart: Yes
odddirective: Meat and net is flavor, core damage is -max
Endie_Babble: @NoxStryx YEAH
Mr_Bitterness: @NoxStryx Correct
Getter404: Uh oh.
Rockman4140: There will be a piece of equipment that will give you +3 hand size
millenomi_Aura: Each point of core damage gives you -1 hand size permanently, correct.
larrea000: @NoxStryx it was changed one fateful morning of 2023
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Don't worry Doctor Ben, you have (probably) have a card in your deck that gives you more hand size.
hyralt: That is wild. This is going to be so aggro
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InfiniteNutshell: 5
chomky_seal: Important to note: if you take more core damage than you have maximum hand size, you die at the end of the turn!
larrea000: 5 and 5
Mr_Bitterness: 5 and 5
itsme_orly: 5 and 5!
millenomi_Aura: 5 and 5 baby
odddirective: 5 cards 5 creds
Preachieved: those sleeves are great for the core damage ID
NoxStryx: @larrea000 Yeah, a little more PC this way.
itsme_orly: Let's play some netrunnnerrrr
tiwanll: Mulls?
InfiniteNutshell: mulligan rule is: you get one mulligan if you want it
ThrinagaBattleheart: You can mulligan once for a new five, then you gotta roll with it
hyralt: Oh yeah this playmat is handy
millenomi_Aura: You can mulligan also if you want. You shuffle once back and redraw 5.
odddirective: You have a good hand Ben from what I saw
CWaltz86: "get to draw"
InfiniteNutshell: mulligan matters more for corp. if you have a ton of agendas in your opening hand you want to throw it back
larrea000: it's like "corp gets 4 clicks but has to spend the first one drawing"
junipertheory: Yep
millenomi_Aura: it's the read your cards part of the stream! XD
FurthestChunk: m a n d a t o r y
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, use counters on your ID or similar.
jonesinforjosie: 6 you die
larrea000: you die on -1 hand size not 0
InfiniteNutshell: you can have 0 hand size and not die
chomky_seal: 5 core damage means you have no hand size, 6 is death
InfiniteNutshell: if you have -1 hand size, then you die
odddirective: 6 core with no hand size max kills you, 5 is fine
millenomi_Aura: If you have 0 hand size you survive. If you have negative hand size, you will die when trying to discard to an impossible hand size at the end of your turn.
InfiniteNutshell: I've seen esa decks take like, 8 core and still be alive
Zerothmaxima: You only die in the discard phase though. You cans till win!
NoxStryx: You die when you take damage while having no cards
chomky_seal: you die at the *end of the turn*, which means you can take a 6th core damage and pray
thymelord13: Dig the playmat
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, it can kill you the normal way — AND it also kills you at the end of the turn.
WaltTheWizard: Time to triple ICE
ThrinagaBattleheart: Oh, that I did not know @millenomi_Aura
odddirective: If Wheeler has Humanoid this is gonna be a hell of a game
InfiniteNutshell: does wheeler know how upgrades work
WaltTheWizard: Played face down
odddirective: You set it face down
InfiniteNutshell: you pay for it when you rez it
millenomi_Aura: That gets installed to a server, yep, and it works like morph.
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junipertheory: Reezzing it is clickless, it's instant speed
Mr_Bitterness: You don't advance this
InfiniteNutshell: so tranquility itself was the first time
millenomi_Aura: Unfortunately, this _is_ the first card you installed.
Mr_Bitterness: It can't be advanced. You just rez it for a credit
InfiniteNutshell: it wasn't rezzed yet so you can't get the credits this turn
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Wheeler is about to be upset to learn that Tranquility sees itself.
millenomi_Aura: Correct!
ThrinagaBattleheart: Upgrades can be added to any server basically in any number, except for Regions which are one per, and other restrictions. Assets and Agendas are only one per remote serve.
itsme_orly: It does eat its own trigger on install t4igger same turn
TXC2: itsme_orly careful with the mistypes
InfiniteNutshell: yeah normally you'd wait to rez until you're about to proc the effect next turn
InfiniteNutshell: but having it rezzed now is fine
junipertheory: Note that tranq is an UPGRADE so you can put something else in that server!
millenomi_Aura: Correct also! Razzing does not take one click. You can install other things beside because this is an upgrade, which can live with other cards alongside it in a server.
InfiniteNutshell: you don't pay for stuff yet
millenomi_Aura: This is like free morphs all the time for the Corp, yep!
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: You're doing great!
hyralt: You've got this, Bens!
NoxStryx: If you are being THAT GUY you don't rezz until you want to use that thing, like cracking a fetch at your opponent's end step in magic
junipertheory:
You can always draw a card or take a credit 
millenomi_Aura: You can only advance agendas (and things that say you can advance them).
odddirective: Click for a cred is always free
InfiniteNutshell: you can totally put down ice you have no intention of rezzing, ben won't know
millenomi_Aura: You can always click for a credit or draw a card. You've gotta use all these clicks before the turn ends.
PMAvers: or if he thinks Wheeler doesn’t have the money to pay for the ICE
millenomi_Aura: heck yeah.
InfiniteNutshell: you could if you want! but it's a click
millenomi_Aura: Correct. But you get 4 clicks.
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Looks like a good turn!
CWaltz86: "get to draw"
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, it's a net of +4[credit].
InfiniteNutshell: right into it, let's go
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Hey, this is an important one!
junipertheory: Oh that's an amazing start
millenomi_Aura: YESSSS THE GOOD START
WaltTheWizard: OH YEAH
hyralt: I love the hidden info and bluffing. Gotta wonder what cards Wheeler has face down and if he has the money to rez them.
ThrinagaBattleheart:
There's the cybernetics
Rockman4140: Yeeeeeahhh!
itsme_orly: Let's gooo the opening
PMAvers: Stinson pops his head around the corner into the room
tiwanll: great esa start
InfiniteNutshell: you do also lose a random card from your hand
InfiniteNutshell: for the damage
Rockman4140: That is absolutely how you want to start Esa.
millenomi_Aura: Yep, it also causes you discard as normal.
Strebenherz: Core damage reduces hand size but ups three, so net two
Strebenherz: I think
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: (Small hint for the Doctors LRR, I recommend putting the damage on your ID to make it clear what it is indicating. Just a small thing).
CWaltz86: ooof
millenomi_Aura: You now suffered 1 damage and your maximum hand size is -1.
tiwanll: Raindrops art is siiick
CWaltz86: what a discard
ThrinagaBattleheart: Damn, that would've been nice to have
InfiniteNutshell: yeah the die on the ID will help make it clear that it's for tracking core damage
Strebenherz: Kind of like harrow
jipeel: you do get to see
junipertheory: You get to look at the, haha, just ulmer doesn't
InfiniteNutshell: yes but the corp can look at their facedowns in archives
CWaltz86: you can look at it
itsme_orly: The corp can look at them
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Yes, Corp always get to see the facedowns.
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, Wheeler gets to see anything that's facedown on his side of the board at any time.
thymelord13: LOL no poker face
millenomi_Aura: YES YOU CAN
CWaltz86: whooa
millenomi_Aura: YES YOU CAN!
hyralt: LIVE YOUR LIFE
CWaltz86: FERMENTER!!!
NoxStryx: I don't know this deck in particular, but runners and Anarch in particular use their heap as a resource, so that card is probably not lost forever.
ThrinagaBattleheart: Click and trash
Mr_Bitterness: Trash it, yes
junipertheory: Click and sac it, yeah
InfiniteNutshell: by the way wheeler, you do have a way to rescue agendas that get milled from archives. it's a card called Spin Doctor
millenomi_Aura: Yep, the trash can means trash it while it's in play. Purge virus counters would remove all virus counters from all cards.
tiwanll: RUNNING HOT LFGGGG
WaltTheWizard: YEAH BABY
millenomi_Aura: Esa only triggers once per turn, so no more sabotage.
tiwanll: SEND IIIIT
Di4na:
I see why Ben would love that deck
tiwanll: oh dont send it
odddirective: You can draw instead
InfiniteNutshell: running hot next turn probably
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Do not send, abort, abort
millenomi_Aura: lol
tiwanll: oh you should keep ashen
hyralt: Live your life Ben!
InfiniteNutshell: oh definitely don't play that haha
WaltTheWizard: That's a pretty good one
larrea000: save that one for later
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: That's a really strong one!
Preachieved: don't wanna lose that lol
ThePinnacleNumberFour: hype netrunner again
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: You should try to keep Ashen Epilogue.
InfiniteNutshell: ashen is for resetting your deck when it runs out
millenomi_Aura: It's a Timetwister.
hyralt: Heart of the cards, Ben!
WaltTheWizard: Run archives before he can ICE it?
millenomi_Aura: That's a big one that you probably want to hold in for the end, yeah. You can run or you can draw or get a credit yep!
larrea000: strong urge to backseat...
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Old adage: don't run last click.
Mr_Bitterness: Checking archives wouldn't be bad
junipertheory: It's not really a wheel of fortune, it's a reset your deck. You do have a way to get it back if you lose it though.
thymelord13: Run archives.
millenomi_Aura: yessss
millenomi_Aura: DENIAL
jonesinforjosie: yay
Di4na:
I see we chose land destruction today
millenomi_Aura: I think this is pretty good honestly. kill his econ!
hyralt: Nice, good run
Metric_Furlong: oh hey, I can catch some of this stream live for once
junipertheory: Don't forget, you can always draw or take money during your turn for an action. That's always doable
ThrinagaBattleheart: To be fair, that was a good region upgrade to get rid of
TXC2: hello Metric_Furlong welcome
Di4na:
Feel like a botl the bird moment
NoxStryx: Econ control is a good move
CWaltz86: you get to draw, as is your burden
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Yeah basically bolt the bird
InfiniteNutshell: your servers are in the right places
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, correct.
Preachieved: R&Deck, HandQ
NoxStryx: HQ is you HAND Quarters
Metric_Furlong: HQ= corp hand, R&D= corp deck; Archives = corp discard
InfiniteNutshell: aura does ben have a buffer drive?
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, thankfully that's a fixed set XD most of the rest of the rules is spelled out on the care itself.
CWaltz86: hand quarters
millenomi_Aura: @InfiniteNutshell Yes.
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hyralt: @Preachieved Very good
junipertheory: I just put it on the ID usually
millenomi_Aura: On the ID yeah.
Preachieved: oh, thanks!
Mr_Bitterness: there's special tokens you can get too
CWaltz86: people bring their own tokens
InfiniteNutshell: ok so ben you want to just let the ashen epilogue get hit by damage. you have a way to get it back once your deck runs out and you need the reset
CrossXhunteR: can anyone confirm or deny whether the fetch land dragon shield sleeves smell like maple syrup
junipertheory: That'll cost you 1, for each of those
jonesinforjosie: might want to track handsize too
hyralt: @Preachieved You're welcome!
InfiniteNutshell: those installs cost $1 apiece
millenomi_Aura: That costs you 1 credit each because installing ice costs 1 for each ice behind it.
Metric_Furlong: they renamed brain damage to core damage, I take it
InfiniteNutshell: since there is already 1 ice
InfiniteNutshell: @Metric_Furlong yes
WaltTheWizard: He's poor, run wherever you want
larrea000: hes broke...
ThePinnacleNumberFour: Broke
Metric_Furlong: (haven't played since the FFG days)
InfiniteNutshell: fermenter trigger
millenomi_Aura: Start of turn trigger!
InfiniteNutshell: we click to draw
InfiniteNutshell: is how we live
millenomi_Aura: Use your first click to draw!!!
CWaltz86: the runner is broke too
UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica: Goodnight chat, I'll catch you in the VOD!
InfiniteNutshell: sometimes we just click to draw three times in a row
TXC2: so long UntilTheEndOfTimeVeronica sleep well
InfiniteNutshell: well hey you could start with running hot
millenomi_Aura: you gotta have the options to aggro the options
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Not efficient, no, but you gotta do what you gotta do
larrea000: cards in hand are very good...
jonesinforjosie: gotta get cards somehow
Metric_Furlong: sometimes we click to draw three times then run on the last click! sometimes we also lose the game
Di4na: I had been eyeing netrunner for so long, y'all got me to get the cards. Gonna try it with my partner
InfiniteNutshell: you DO want to pitch your ashen, it's too expensive just for card draw
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Also yeah, cards in hand good, especially for "losing cards" ID
InfiniteNutshell: it's there to reset when your deck runs out
millenomi_Aura: Yes. Spend one. Draw a card. Have another if it helps.
millenomi_Aura:
jonesinforjosie: vodka cat!
odddirective: The cat!
millenomi_Aura: it's him!
GamerCat88: you running the net son
Metric_Furlong: do we have card art that's up with Day Job, though?
ThePinnacleNumberFour: do we exsplane Broke Corp and unrezed ice ??
junipertheory: happens to all of us
jonesinforjosie: at 2? likely
odddirective: Fairly likely in this boardstate
InfiniteNutshell: you prefer not to but yeah sometimes that's the play
odddirective: Yeah
larrea000: it is something that happens but you wish you wouldnt have to
Preachieved: happens more often than I'd like
thymelord13: Corp needs credits bad
WaltTheWizard: Yeah
CWaltz86: sometimes you just gotta make money
lamina5432: ramp for the next turn?
millenomi_Aura: Look, turns like these can be necessary and they happen to all of us.
Metric_Furlong: it's not ideal, but sometimes you have to
odddirective: Glaciers tax remotes too
westenra1: we try to avoid them but they happen
millenomi_Aura: 🫡
niccus: sometimes time walk is explore
odddirective: Behemoth, in Russian
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Oh gods
InfiniteNutshell: yesss take the damage
millenomi_Aura:
you probably want to draw a lil more bud 
ThrinagaBattleheart:
This is why you want to draw cards Ulmer
jonesinforjosie: that's not very anarch of you
kevinth2: cards are a resource
larrea000: your deck is ALL good cards so it's fine to discard a few
Preachieved: embrace it, very anarch
odddirective: Which is why Esa is aggro
30teracyte: live fast die eventually
hyralt: Live your life Ben!
jipeel: eat that cardboard
ThrinagaBattleheart: So Ulmer has 3 core damage atm?
InfiniteNutshell: 2
InfiniteNutshell: we rewound the begemot
TXC2: a LRRning stream
InfiniteNutshell: so you have 4 clicks remaining
InfiniteNutshell: a full turn to go
ThrinagaBattleheart: Ahh, I remember what, we rewound the earlier Running Hot
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, no problem! It is, happy to help.
jonesinforjosie: pay for the running hot
ThrinagaBattleheart: I was confused a bit
InfiniteNutshell: fermenter, draw, play running hot
CWaltz86: no you're rtight
junipertheory: -1 credit for the running hot, but yeah
Rockman4140: Marrow Cat Running
ThrinagaBattleheart:
That's what it was
millenomi_Aura: You have 4 clicks left yeah!
Getter404: The second draw was from your passive yeah
SxySamurai: Is this the Fantasy Flight version or Null Signal Games?
InfiniteNutshell: oh yeah, you didn't spend the credit
ThrinagaBattleheart: Null Signal
ThePinnacleNumberFour: @SxySamurai NSG
larrea000: @SxySamurai this is NSG gaming
InfiniteNutshell: @SxySamurai these are current standard decks. NSG
millenomi_Aura: Yep all good. You're on 3 clicks.
Juliamon: SxySamurai We have lots of NSG folks in chat for a reason
CAKHost: Hello everyone
SxySamurai:
Thank you 
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Lol yeah
hyralt: lol, last time Wheeler wanted to play control
GamerCat88: yeah runner def my fav
Getter404: Ah yes, the Dead By Daylight problem
TXC2: hello CAKHost welcome
CAKHost: What is the box drop count at?
CWaltz86: im one of the few who likes both sides
jonesinforjosie: :V
odddirective: Did we sabotage?
SxySamurai:
Just waiting until payday to order my set
InfiniteNutshell: oooof so much money
NoxStryx: To me they are using the click counters backwards, I would count down the clicks rather than up.
ThePinnacleNumberFour: how much do we help the players ??
Preachieved: nice
ThrinagaBattleheart: And also just the Netrunner nerds too (very affectionate)
junipertheory: You might wanna wait on that one,
westenra1: there are corp decks which take a lot of game options also
ThePinnacleNumberFour: bit fast indeed
westenra1: actions*
millenomi_Aura: !backseat
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hyralt: Too much backseating, I just wanna see Ben try stuff
ThePinnacleNumberFour: got you
Juliamon:
flowerseses: i dunno, i remember enjoying playing NBN during mumbad being crazy fun
TXC2: !heychat
LRRbot: Please ONLY offer advice when the streamer uses the phrase "Hey, chat...". Let them try to learn the game on their own, even if it means they miss a thing or two.
accountmadeforants: Now look what you've done, we've made Ben give up literacy
junipertheory: costs 2, so you only go up 2 sadly.
Getter404: E E E. eeeeeeeeee.
chomky_seal: Silence chat, the Anarch is running
junipertheory: no costs 1, sorry, you go up 3
NoxStryx: @flowerseses Love NBN
TXC2: EA sports BIG!
flowerseses: @NoxStryx popup my love
Anubis169:
Getting it right isn't the aim, the aim is to enjoy the struggle 
hyralt: Vodka cat! Vodkat!
millenomi_Aura: Strike Fund 1[credit] Event Influence: 1●○○○○ Gain 4[credit]. When this event is trashed from your grip or stack, you may gain 2[credit].
GamerCat88: the twist it is vodka with a side of cat
CAKHost: See you all later then
millenomi_Aura: Drawing cards is the noblest of click uses, don't you worry about it.
Anubis169: later CAKHost!
InfiniteNutshell: you kinda did yep
Juliamon: !heychat
LRRbot: Please ONLY offer advice when the streamer uses the phrase "Hey, chat...". Let them try to learn the game on their own, even if it means they miss a thing or two.
ThePinnacleNumberFour: runner hase a tag
NoxStryx: It means the runner has a tag
Getter404: It's a status, like marking a target
ThrinagaBattleheart: Tagged = runner has a tag, some cards can give tags to the Runner
jonesinforjosie: you know a bit more about them
InfiniteNutshell: something will say give the runner a tag
Preachieved: are these lists on nrdb somewhere?
NoxStryx: It is a thing you can do to them
millenomi_Aura: A tag is a counter some of your cards can give the Runner, yeah. They can shake it off for time and money.
ThrinagaBattleheart: The Runner can spend a click and 2(?) credits to remove a tag they have
InfiniteNutshell: you probably aren't doing much tagging in that deck
WaltTheWizard: You probably aren't playing many tag effects.
InfiniteNutshell: it's just in there as an econ card
junipertheory: Yeah that card is in there solely for the value, you are never tagging haha
sunshineCasts: In particular, it unlocks one of your basic actions if the Runner is tagged (the one to destroy their resources) so even if a card doesn't reference it a tag has some "built in" impact.
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Yeah, good econ card tbh
Kentosaurus: tagging the runner? [insert baseball joke here]
millenomi_Aura: Give Wheeler three dollars
Metric_Furlong:
oh hey, it's playable Anonymous Tip
millenomi_Aura: Give Wheeler five dollars
CWaltz86: i want 3 money.. thats what i want..
MGN001: Tags, thematically, is "info the corp has on the runner"
TXC2: "oh, why can't I have free money and no cards?"
ThrinagaBattleheart: 3 buckzoids
Getter404: The corp has played "Paypal me 30,000"
FauksStarling: Are we giving Wheeler 3 money CAD or USD?
flowerseses: i assume core damage is what brain damage used to be?
InfiniteNutshell: oh let's go
hyralt: Dr Nuka Cola?
30teracyte: @flowerseses yes
WaltTheWizard: @flowerseses Yed
CWaltz86: NUKA COLA!!
hyralt: @CWaltz86 same braincell lol
TXC2:
FauksStarling for this game I assume it's company script
Getter404: And now is it kitty time?
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InfiniteNutshell: wheeler you literally just played modal ancestral for the other mode
InfiniteNutshell: hahaha
millenomi_Aura: Anarchs aren't afraid of a little thing like drawing their either deck! Runners do not lose for drawing past the end of their deck.
ThrinagaBattleheart:
I mean, with megacorps, it's probably all company scrip
millenomi_Aura: Don't tell him!!!!
jonesinforjosie: yah
InfiniteNutshell: yes
jonesinforjosie: mic
WaltTheWizard: YAH
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TXC2: hello Raiders
InfiniteNutshell: @ThrinagaBattleheart yes but now we have Oppo Research
hyralt: Welcome @RemapRadio raiders!
Preachieved: @ThrinagaBattleheart yes
jonesinforjosie: @ThrinagaBattleheart yes, all ffg cards got yeeted
millenomi_Aura: @ThrinagaBattleheart We have an equivalent called Oppo Research in the format.
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Metric_Furlong: run those nets; net those runs
Mattmitchell45: Remap AND LRR ^_^ Yay
millenomi_Aura: THE CAT IS LOOSE
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ThrinagaBattleheart: Yeah, actually, seeing Oppo I'd rather see that than HHN
hyralt: @jonesinforjosie Sad, I have a full set of the original FFGs ;_;
BlackIsis:
Oh, now I see why we raided LRR. 
BTownMC: is netrunner making a comeback? i have a bunch of it
millenomi_Aura: rip. so it goes.
Neesee: thanks for the raid Chia
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millenomi_Aura: You got it XD
CWaltz86: are we back to normal handsize?
InfiniteNutshell: yes
millenomi_Aura: You get to see and access everything in it.
InfiniteNutshell: oof lost a spin
junipertheory: yep.
millenomi_Aura: Yep
BTownMC: yup
Metric_Furlong: yes
ThrinagaBattleheart: HHN into Boom was a lot of late-era FFG Netrunner
BTownMC: points
millenomi_Aura: If there were more than 1 agenda, you could take all of them.
East_Coast_Sam: NETRUNNER! LET'S GOOOOO
CaKnuckleguy: Yep. You access everything in Archives in any order you want.
junipertheory: Also has another effect, for wheeler
hyralt: Yessss, good run Ben!
InfiniteNutshell: that's...maybe good for wheeler actually. could be a powerful rez here
WaltTheWizard: Trigger
ThePinnacleNumberFour: send a message hase text
millenomi_Aura: You have a trigger when Send a Message is stolen!
InfiniteNutshell: send a message ability
itsme_orly: Wheeler gets money in nice rez form from steal
CWaltz86: spin doctor?
Getter404: 3 points, and all it took was a wee bit of semi-permanent brain damage
RemapRadio: it's both
InfiniteNutshell: corp gets a free rez
millenomi_Aura: It's the one on Send a Message itself.
WaltTheWizard: It's econ!
hyralt: Ooo, that's a nice perk for Wheeler
millenomi_Aura: M.I.C. 6[credit] Ice: Code Gate Strength: 4 Influence: 2●●○○○ [trash]: End the run unless the Runner spends [click]. Use this ability only during a run on this server. [subroutine] The Runner loses [click]. [subroutine] The Runner loses [click]. [subroutine] End the run.
jipeel: missing automata initative
millenomi_Aura: This ice has an activated ability you can use during a run.
ThrinagaBattleheart:
But yeah, I'd rather Oppo than HHN
sunshineCasts: that is a Chunky code gate wow
WaltTheWizard: Notably not a Bioroid for LEO.
InfiniteNutshell: bens, is it clear how the trash ability works versus the subroutines?
millenomi_Aura: It's not a card that LEO can use to end the run, but it can do so on its own.
BTownMC: i had everything from this game, got rid of all the data cycles and kept the expansions
Justinthomasmm: how many cards are in ulmers hand? he has 3 core damage right?
Mattmitchell45: I hope the Motorsporting went well
jonesinforjosie: @Justinthomasmm he's got marrow as well
Metric_Furlong: good old H-B and the extremely fair, don't even worry about it click taxing
InfiniteNutshell: no problem : )
millenomi_Aura: Installing for the Corps works exactly like free morph from Magic.
cado_appears: that one eats its own first trigger
CaKnuckleguy: You get through, but not necessarily cheaply.
BTownMC: ice breakers of the type will get through
InfiniteNutshell: you don't have to pay for it now yeah
NoxStryx: @Justinthomasmm He also had +3 hand size i think
Justinthomasmm: @jonesinforjosie ooooh didn’t see just joined
millenomi_Aura: Yep there we go, all correct!
flowerseses: I am so sad that it seems there's no longer a scene for nr in norway. we used to have a very active community during ffg days
InfiniteNutshell: not sideways if it's not ice
ThrinagaBattleheart: HHN just saying "Oh, you ran last turn? You're basically dead" was... unfortunate design IMO. But anyway
itsme_orly: Generally only ICE goes horizontally
InfiniteNutshell: turn the non-ice upright
cado_appears: also stuff in the root of the servwer should be "standing" so it doesn't look lkike ice
millenomi_Aura: Yeah! Things in the (root of the) server go vertical so we know which ones are not ice and which ones they are (the horizontal ones).
InfiniteNutshell: please thank you
kaynSD:
I have not played Netrunner since the end of the FFG era. You two doing these streams may convince me to get into Null Signal
millenomi_Aura: Please.
cado_appears: wow the typo
itsme_orly: Pls
NoxStryx: Wheeler, in magic terms your whole deck basically has morph
CaKnuckleguy:
@kaynSD 
adamjford: pwease don't wun my servwer uwu~
kaynSD: (I still have a near complete collection of FFG cards, missing one original core set and the Legacy campaign box)
ThrinagaBattleheart: LOL
flowerseses: @kaynSD same. I gotta get two sets of everything tho, so I can at least get a friend in
Getter404: Ghost Tongues...are we SURE this isn't Arkham?
InfiniteNutshell: ben has gotten the esa trigger every turn so far
flowerseses: since I gave away my whole collection
keatthebeast: the card reader holding on recently
millenomi_Aura: Four yep. Esa trigger as well.
InfiniteNutshell: niiice
InfiniteNutshell: free money
adamjford: gottem
millenomi_Aura: That's why it's there XD
WaltTheWizard: Corps HATE this one trick
hyralt: Yesssss, he activated Ben's trap card!!
CaKnuckleguy: Strike Struck!
TXC2: easy money
CWaltz86: love when it firessss
kaynSD: Oh that's the replacement for Arasaka Owns You / I've Had Worse for this edition? Lovely
millenomi_Aura: Bengineering understands the assignment XD
InfiniteNutshell: @kaynSD we also have one that draws cards
kevinth2: steelskin scarring is the closer near print of I’ve Had Worse
ThrinagaBattleheart:
What could possibly go wrong?!
adamjford: this deck was well-picked for Ben, I feel
cado_appears: btw you get to look at the stuff you just trashed
cado_appears: as the corp
kaynSD: I love playing Anarch
junipertheory:
The card reader is on me; i just went over all the cards we gave paul and apparently i missed a few 
I'll get this uploaded asap
WaltTheWizard: He can't fail his bluff if he doesn't know what's in there.
itsme_orly: Is flipping is somewhat under runner control your choice is just about positioning and yes, no decisions when the server is run
InfiniteNutshell: it's only 1 credit more juice, and you didn't have to spend a click for it
itsme_orly: Ice flipping*
millenomi_Aura: LOL
CaKnuckleguy: Cant bluff if you don't know! Perfect corp strat
NoxStryx: @junipertheory Sounds like it is the ones they proxied in
WaltTheWizard: @itsme_orly You can only flip ICE the runner is approaching.
ThrinagaBattleheart: To be fair @InfiniteNutshell , events cost one less now
InfiniteNutshell: oh right
millenomi_Aura: rip econ
NoxStryx: @junipertheory So not really your fault
hyralt: Still a good run, gotta find out
goombalax: have you tried patreon
millenomi_Aura: That's the life of an Anarch! Everything but money.
InfiniteNutshell: yes you can rez now
ThrinagaBattleheart: Is Criminal everything but cards then? :3
30teracyte: ben needs to discard to hand size I think
millenomi_Aura: Yep, you can rez the same way morph/manifest work in Magic.
kristian_fischer: Evening, boys. We getting some nets good and run?
InfiniteNutshell: you pretty much just want to rez right before you install something else there and trigger the ability
kaynSD:
No grip, no credits, one click left... run central!
LoadingReadyRun: @millenomi_Aura it looks like the Automata Initative expansion isn't in the card images you sent
cado_appears: ice generally doesn't have start of turn triggers, just a few exceptions now
ThrinagaBattleheart:
@kaynSD The Adam playstyle
TXC2: hello kristian_fischer welcome
millenomi_Aura: oh dang. checking right now. in REAL TIME.
kaynSD:
@ThrinagaBattleheart heck yeah.
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Well, I'm running every turn anyway, make the most of it
InfiniteNutshell: that's not the root
WaltTheWizard: Not the root.
InfiniteNutshell: that's protecting
ThrinagaBattleheart: I loved Adam so much
30teracyte: that specifies 'in the root' of the server
30teracyte: ice is not in the root
millenomi_Aura: Unfortunately it's not "in" the server. Ice is outside, protecting it.
cado_appears: the root is just cards in the server not protecting the server
flowerseses: @cado_appears also, Chia, can I just say, this is my favorite unexpected streamer crossover of the month
junipertheory: Nah, tranquility is just cards *in* the server. not ice protecting
cado_appears:
@flowerseses
InfiniteNutshell: you need to put an asset upgrade or agenda
InfiniteNutshell: to get tranq payout
millenomi_Aura: You can add a card besides the Grid, which is an upgrade, but ice isn't inside the server and won't trigger the ability.
itsme_orly: The two credits doesn't come from the ice install
kaynSD: @ThrinagaBattleheart if I wasn't running Anarch I liked running as Sunny
millenomi_Aura: It's outside, protecting it.
30teracyte: ice is not 'in the root' of the server
InfiniteNutshell: sorry, I should use punctuation
YsengrinSC: the additional credit cost is only for installing additional ice, not additional cards in the root of the server
junipertheory: You gotta put a card in the server, along with tranq grid.
itsme_orly: Into the root rather than protecting
InfiniteNutshell: root of the server means assets, upgrades, and agendas
adamjford: learning!
WaltTheWizard: You can have multiple things in the root of a server, as long as it's 1 asset/agenda and multiple upgrades.
cado_appears: you can install Assets and Agendas on top of this Upgrade
itsme_orly: In the same position as the grid
junipertheory: Just leave it for now, but yeah. Upgrades go in a server ALONG with something else, so put another card in there for value.
adamjford: an upgrade is like an Enchant Server
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, the root is the place inside the server that you look at when you breach. Upgrades are kinda like enchantments — they can live besides other stuff. Tranquility is an upgrade.
InfiniteNutshell: any particular remote server can have any number of upgrdes plus either one asset or one agenda
adamjford: except you just say the server exists now, so maybe not a useful allegory lmao
kaynSD: Servers on the Moon~
kaynSD: Wheeler has a literal moonbase
InfiniteNutshell: central servers can also have upgrades installed, but not assets or agendas
dolphgrim: @adamjford I work in a data center and you can bet your buns that I'm enchanting servers every day
adamjford: lmao
adamjford: we memeing?
PMAvers: It's DA LAD
itsme_orly: The lizard wizard
kaynSD: just a little guy!
adamjford: ah, we maeming
millenomi_Aura: Oh, hey, it's the liberated Tamagotchi/Pokemon program that helps you outside of its little game!
adamjford: I saw axolotls at the Vancouver Aquarium yesterday :3
InfiniteNutshell: ben will p much never have to spend real credits for events again
InfiniteNutshell: between that and ghosttongue
ThrinagaBattleheart: Very welcome, I'm sure :d
ThrinagaBattleheart:
adamjford: dark souls text: THING DONE
cado_appears: you can't do that
itsme_orly: Exactly what someone installing an agenda would say
cado_appears: wait no
cado_appears: the SAME server
TXC2:
adamjford I need that in real life
ThrinagaBattleheart: Me too tbh
InfiniteNutshell: cado wants you to overlap the tranq grid and the facedown
itsme_orly: Usually shown by card over lap
InfiniteNutshell: so it's clear they are in the same server
kaynSD: Exactly what I'd say when installing a "Snare!"
ThatLooseCake: As a note, just overlap it
WaltTheWizard: Or put an asset/agenda there.
ThrinagaBattleheart: Multiple upgrades possible per server
jonesinforjosie: upgrades can live with assets and agenda
CaKnuckleguy: You can put assets/agendas in there to trigger it
CWaltz86: upgrades are like aura enchants
millenomi_Aura: A server can have 1 asset/agenda and any number of upgrades in it. You can put more there if you want.
cado_appears: No it's an upgrade so you can Put ASSETS and AGENDAS and ANY OTHER UPGRADE on top
junipertheory: EVERYONE SHUSH. You're doing it fine, you're just putting that in the same server, behind the same ice. That's all.
CaKnuckleguy: Or more upgrades (that aren't regeions)
InfiniteNutshell: the play wheeler did is fine, it's just about card positioning on the table
adamjford: when you want to play a card on a new remote server, you basically declare a new one exists by putting it in a new column. In the root of that server, you can place exactly one agenda or asset, and one to many upgrades in that server
CWaltz86: hell ya ben thats a good way to explaing
junipertheory:
Yeah, you're putting that in the same server, yes. Uusally we just overlap them.
adamjford: ^ I've never played so Netrunner experts plz criticize my explanation
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, that's fair! To make sure it's clear they're together we overlap them, so it's clear that that's protected by the same big column of ice.
hyralt:
I'm leaving it to Aura/Nutshell to explain. They've got this.
Justinthomasmm: I think running can be scary with no money, but it’s ok to run ice and bounce and figure out what’s out there.
InfiniteNutshell: so...did we actually resolve the tranq grid trigger?
kaynSD: So long as all those upgrades aren't mutually exclusive
InfiniteNutshell: I don't remember how much money wheeler had
jonesinforjosie: yeah, not worrying about correcting them makes the stream more fun
CWaltz86: also i think we should reiterate that millenomi and juniper are our primary rules explainers right now please
kaynSD: (like, "1 region upgrade per server")
itsme_orly: He was at 7 i think so should go up to 9 from the first click install on top of the grid
kevinth2: @nut he was at 7, and drew off of tranq, all is well
InfiniteNutshell: if you wait to stack an upgrade until next turn, you get more tranq money
itsme_orly: Oh drew
InfiniteNutshell: got it
CWaltz86: game state is good
InfiniteNutshell: thanks kevinth
millenomi_Aura: If you want advice — your money looks a little tight, yeah. finding upgrades to install or operations that give you money is probably the move.
cado_appears: the trigger only happens once per turn there too so if you have another thing to put in there next turn would be the time to do it
InfiniteNutshell: well you CAN play another asset or agenda, you just have to trash the old one
kaynSD: Is HB still the same economic juggernaut it always has been?
millenomi_Aura: Bolstering one server forever is LEO's whole game.
InfiniteNutshell: doesn't cost a click to turn up
itsme_orly: Wait for next turn
cado_appears: it doesn't take a click
cado_appears: to turn this up
kaynSD: yeah, no click to rez
millenomi_Aura: it doesn't take a click to turn this up!
millenomi_Aura: it's morph rules.
millenomi_Aura: instant speed.
kaynSD: Yep. Correct
junipertheory: Rezzing/flipping over is morph rules. It's always instant speed. Whenever you want.
millenomi_Aura: Installing means to put it down onto the field, rezzing only costs the credit on the card and not a click yep.
millenomi_Aura: You got it.
InfiniteNutshell: install is when you pay the click, rez is when you pay the money. and you don't need to rez assets and upgrades until you're going to use them
InfiniteNutshell: anyway, nothing wrong with clicking for a credit
WaltTheWizard: Humanoid Resources is so good
kaynSD: HB remains economy and serious click efficiency then, huh?
InfiniteNutshell: $8 feels like a lot compared to ben's $2, but it's really not that much for a corp, because you haven't paid for most of your ice yet
hyralt: Always Be Running
millenomi_Aura: Always be running!
cado_appears: usage wise there's no real reason to rez at this point, you can always wait for the turn you want to actually use it's ability so the runner has to guess more
ThePinnacleNumberFour: indeed alwasy be running
adamjford: me when the doc asks about my high blood pressure
kaynSD: gotta keep that corp poor
millenomi_Aura: 4 strength, yeah.
WaltTheWizard: Vodka cat so good
junipertheory: Both your programs are decoders fractors, or killers, so you're safe from that.
NoxStryx: Wheeler, what you were doing was like putting a fetch land directly into the graveyard and then searching for a land, a shortcut but people wanted to make sure you knew the actual process
kaynSD: I always loved how the ICE art is sideways so the runner can see what they're running into from their point of view
millenomi_Aura: Vodka cat is 6 strength yep. You've passed the ice.
InfiniteNutshell: drafter is really good taxing ice
WaltTheWizard: Drafter is pure value.
InfiniteNutshell: if they don't break if you get value, and if they pay money to break it they lose value
TXC2: right chat I'm off
kaynSD: Oh yeah. It also lets you emergency install stuff from hand into a remote if the runner is likely to get in... or fake it with a trap...
hyralt: "free" install, but it cost Wheeler 3 to rez the ice
itsme_orly: Full drafter fire let's go
kaynSD: that's nasty
hyralt: Take care @TXC2 !
itsme_orly: Biiiig value
TXC2: Goodnight everybody and thanks for streaming Wheeler and Ben and Paul on tech
millenomi_Aura: nini!
Justinthomasmm: resolve in order yes
millenomi_Aura: "Put a card into your hand" and "Install one card from discards or your hand."
millenomi_Aura: Yep.
InfiniteNutshell: and "ignoring all costs" means you can put ice out for free
millenomi_Aura: *From discards or your hand.
millenomi_Aura: Yep!
kaynSD: Nope, just installed
junipertheory: Nope, not rezzed, just installed
millenomi_Aura: No, just installed
WaltTheWizard: Ben can activate LEO if he wants to keep his hand safe,
InfiniteNutshell: wheeler could rez it next time you run HQ
cado_appears: no it's not rezed
itsme_orly: Nope
junipertheory: @WaltTheWizard Nah, none of those are bioroids
WaltTheWizard: @junipertheory Gah
InfiniteNutshell: 1
millenomi_Aura: When a card wants you to also rez it will explicitly say 'install and rez'.
millenomi_Aura: Just one yeah.
cado_appears: OUCH
NoxStryx: That ice just lets you get really thick with your ice
itsme_orly: 1
InfiniteNutshell: ooooof
kaynSD: Ooof
millenomi_Aura: The 3-pointers.
hyralt: Oof
kevinth2: vulnerability found
WaltTheWizard: Oof
jonesinforjosie: netrunner
junipertheory: THAT'S 6 POINTS 1 AWAY
itsme_orly: Sick riiips
millenomi_Aura: You can steal it tho.
kaynSD: Vicious
hyralt: Good run, Ben
YsengrinSC: I hope spin Doctor is in this deck
YsengrinSC: or sprint
Jensling: Cool technology
millenomi_Aura: You have a Maemi trigger yep. She gets 1 credit.
junipertheory: There's a card in your deck, wheeler, called Spin Doctor, that's good for letting you shuffle agendas back into your deck if you draw too many.
millenomi_Aura: All good.
YsengrinSC: I’m impressed Ben remembered the Mystic Maemi trigger. I forget it all the time
millenomi_Aura: YESSSSS
InfiniteNutshell: brutal
millenomi_Aura: run it back
hyralt: run chop hq
adamjford: the gulls support this action
dolphgrim: Those gulls, tho! 😮😮😮
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, you don't have enough money to break anything with Carmen.
jonesinforjosie: twitch chat alt art when?
millenomi_Aura: Gained 1, run HQ, Chashutshka, 1 click left.
InfiniteNutshell: you can't stack regions yeah
millenomi_Aura: Tranquility has a limit, yeah.
millenomi_Aura: It's active even if it's unrezzed.
junipertheory: I'd look for spin doctor, if you have one. it'll save youf rom the chastushka
millenomi_Aura: No, the limit works no matter the state of the card.
InfiniteNutshell: I think he picked up the spin with the first sub
millenomi_Aura: Yep, this triggers Tranquility!
junipertheory: nice1
InfiniteNutshell: nice nice
junipertheory: BIG GAMBLE
millenomi_Aura: It's instead of the breach so you don't get to touch a card.
kevinth2: heart of the cards
Dog_of_Myth:
Juliamon: one click and a dream
junipertheory: YEAAAAAH
hyralt: gg Ben
shendaras:
millenomi_Aura: HEART OF THE CARDS BABY
Getter404: FULL AGGRO BABY
WaltTheWizard: GGs
millenomi_Aura: the sickest of rips
accountmadeforants: Great TV achieved!
ThePinnacleNumberFour: gratz
PMAvers: And thus was the birth of another mill player.
CWaltz86: gg
CaKnuckleguy: Nets have been run GG
millenomi_Aura: that's how it's played!
FauksStarling: Perfectly Bengineered!
glitched_goddess: Ben is like a netrunner whisperer or something lol
junipertheory: Good job XD Ulmer you really got it there at the end with the "wait i should just send it as hard as possible"
millenomi_Aura: For the record, you could have stopped that run with your ID — Hagen is a Bioroid.
evilbrennan: Big cat best cat
InfiniteNutshell: hagen is not a bioroid
millenomi_Aura: This would've stopped the Chastushka from trashing cards.
kevinth2: @millenomi_aura Hagen is for some reason not a bioroid
CWaltz86: @millenomi_Aura can you install the spin off the drafter and fire it right there?
millenomi_Aura: oh it isn't I'M A DORK NEVER MIND
itsme_orly: You did super well Wheeler corp is tricky at first because its unclear the goal or how to best protect yourself
millenomi_Aura: NEVER MIND
millenomi_Aura: NO
millenomi_Aura: WHOOPS
InfiniteNutshell: the line was install spin doctor
Justinthomasmm: the line was install spin for sure
millenomi_Aura: yeah you just won it. You could've saved that agenda by installing Spin Doctor.
WaltTheWizard: Drafter, pick up Spin Doctor, use Spin Doctor's ability to shuffle back in an agenda.
Getter404: It's always the one card that mysteriously doesn't have The Tag on it
millenomi_Aura: yessssssssssssssssssss
ThePinnacleNumberFour: lets go
evilbrennan: Maggie!
accountmadeforants: I think they're called Fandom now
cado_appears: getting zwicky with it
millenomi_Aura: EGGS TIME
InfiniteNutshell: mags v zwicky
Twilight_Spark: Zwicky my groups
hyralt: Zwicky Group sounds like an experimental jazz band
Metric_Furlong: Zwicky Zwicky Zwild Zwild Zwest
Rockman4140:
I hope Wheeler wasn't too terribly sad about playing Corp. 
niccus: ah i see this runner is about big hands
itsme_orly: Playing corp for first few games is pretty opaque about how to move yourself towards victory
evilbrennan: Nah zwicky is a good murder time
hyralt: @niccus big yaoi hands?
Getter404: So what I've gleaned from all this is I somehow need to write and hand deliver Ben a 7,000 word essay on the benefits of Winifred Habbamock
millenomi_Aura: @itsme_orly yeah, a little. we got in a little deep, but Bengineering already played the faction this deck is about so we're probably going to see some easier decisions.
CWaltz86: is wheeler playing click creation mag?
millenomi_Aura: As a Corp you want to set up a little faster — playing a lot of ice will just set you back on tempo like it happened here. So it goes! Learning opportunity.
Rockman4140: Truely. Corp is rough, especially not knowing the "mind games" to play against a runner. That totally comes with time.
millenomi_Aura: @CWaltz86 no, it's just value control Mag.
CWaltz86: fair fair
millenomi_Aura: if you like some eggs
junipertheory: Click creation mag is disturbing. People shouldn't play that.
millenomi_Aura: we have leaves that are eggs
x0den: what other corp archtypes are there besides glacier?
millenomi_Aura: or they should and make it very funny. but not in an intro stream XD
ThatLooseCake: @x0den Rush, kill, wide
accountmadeforants: Speaking of netrunning, I found out you can get really thin bend-insensitive fiber nowadays, so I'm running internet to rooms where there previously wasn't.
Justinthomasmm: I think rush would have spoken to wheeler more tbh
CWaltz86:
@junipertheory
millenomi_Aura: @x0den Glacier is a control archetype. There's also combo and aggro versions. The deck that Bengineering is about to play is a rush deck — wants to be aggro about scoring very quicky.
millenomi_Aura: And then set forks to end the game.
Justinthomasmm: but I love LEO so idk
InfiniteNutshell: are we gonna learn about threat 4
junipertheory: @x0den There's "fast advance" where you use tricks to gain extra clicks and score agendas the same yturn you install them; there's "asset spam" where you play like no ice and just play a bajillion servers, and of course there's kill. We're about to see potential kill.
millenomi_Aura: For oldheads: it's a modernism deck. (Read it like 'it's a sligh deck'.)
InfiniteNutshell: in this next matchup
CWaltz86: i can see wheeler enjoying a FA NBN
millenomi_Aura: We sent one XD
adamjford: is kill like, why protect your servers from the runner when you can just simply kill the runner?
CWaltz86: ya that sounds about right
CWaltz86: @adamjford yah
adamjford: hell yeah
adamjford: best defense etc
millenomi_Aura: @adamjford Correct! Or, in the next deck's case: they could just let you score, but if they touch their stuff, they're going to superdie.
CaKnuckleguy: @adamjford Mostly, but ice can be part of the kill package
InfiniteNutshell: @adamjford kinda. you usually need to provoke the runner into a vulnerable position though
CWaltz86: kill decks go hard
CWaltz86: (i say as a PE player)
InfiniteNutshell: so you have to play the servers game enough to make running costly
adamjford: various levels of ice and kill as required
millenomi_Aura: rip PE.
Rockman4140: Are there any decklists for the decks the boys just played?
millenomi_Aura: rotated too soon.
Mr_Bitterness: Lots of kill decks need the runner to make a run first in order to get their actions online
Rockman4140: Pour em out for my homie, PE.
millenomi_Aura: @Rockman4140 I may post some online once they're done!
CaKnuckleguy: I still have Kakugo pinned to my wall, from my days on the SBT. RIP my beauty ice
CWaltz86: PE lives on in my heart
millenomi_Aura: We have PE on a stick now.
InfiniteNutshell: @millenomi_Aura heeeere's johnny
Mr_Bitterness: Glad I'm among my fellow Jinteki sick-os here
ThatLooseCake: @millenomi_Aura "oh no, he's hot" meme
junipertheory: Before this next game: I'd recommend pulling up Measured Response and End Of The line, so that the runner can see them and know what the Danger is.
ThePinnacleNumberFour: hype
CWaltz86: @Mr_Bitterness i know what i like and its killing runners
Getter404: Let's rotate the playmat!
adamjford: so Netrunner draft is not a thing for, uh, obvious reason, but surely someone has devised some kind of cube format? I guess the Corp/Runner divide complicates that
InfiniteNutshell: not anymore really
millenomi_Aura: @adamjford Cube is a long-running tradition!
Rockman4140: Maybe Wheeler should try Shell Game corp some day.
adamjford: hell yeah
junipertheory: You do go back and forth, but you don't play against the same person anyumore. we have advacned software to do it
itsme_orly: Yes across the day but not against the same opponent usually
jonesinforjosie:
@adamjford people draft. There is quick draft on jinteki.net right now
InfiniteNutshell: we used to do double-sided swiss but now most tournaments you only play one game per round
CWaltz86: now we only do single sided
x0den: i remember there used to be drafting in ff days
Metric_Furlong: @adamjford it did have a draft product in the FFG days, dunno if that's still around
NoxStryx: @adamjford They did have a draft format at one point
adamjford: oh, neat!
Justinthomasmm: wheeler playin eggs
adamjford: look at me and my assumptions
evilbrennan: Ro sham blam
Getter404: BIG HAND MAGGIE
millenomi_Aura: YEP
InfiniteNutshell: egg egg egg egg
Metric_Furlong: old Maggie Big Hands
junipertheory: But yeah, Paul, could you maybe pull up measured response and End of the Line after we do IDs?
evilbrennan: Who ISN'T a cyborg these days
InfiniteNutshell: (I assume this is a knickknack deck?)
kevinth2: this ID seeks to tell you that drawing cards is good
InfiniteNutshell: @junipertheory oh yeah good idea
kevinth2: a difficult lesson to be sure
Getter404: Zwicky zwild zwild zwest
ThePinnacleNumberFour: Zwikky gang ! Zwikky gang ! Zwikky gang !
Rockman4140: But we can have PE on a stick in PE. <_< More PE for PE.
adamjford: hand-themed game on both sides
millenomi_Aura: IT WAS IN THE FILE BUD
adamjford: lmao
PMAvers: Under the Bus is a different card.
ThePinnacleNumberFour: LEO is good like him
millenomi_Aura: Our archetype names are weird.
InfiniteNutshell: that's an oooold deck name haha
couchboyj: Pulling out the bud, getting serious
NeoKevlar: Is that document available for someone like me who's been interested for like, 15 years, but never really played
adamjford: weird deck names just means this is a real competitive card game
evilbrennan: Howling landmine
junipertheory: @NeoKevlar We're going to try and put out a version of it later, posibly
millenomi_Aura: @NeoKevlar I'll get back to people, but I would love to share.
accountmadeforants:
@millenomi_Aura Haha, yeah, nothing like Magic deck/archetype names 
CWaltz86: ya why didnt we send girlfriends?
InfiniteNutshell: sokka's command
NeoKevlar: Thanks guys!
PMAvers: I mean, it could be Hot Tubs. Where the deck is named that just because it has a picture of people in a hot tub on it.
NoxStryx: What corp is ulmer?
Getter404: Zwicky
CWaltz86: zwicky
LoadingReadyRun:
Wasn't "Zwicky" Shia Lebeuf's character in Transformers?
maywecomein: ok now I'm trying to *not* pay attention to work, don't show me "KPIs" in my off time
East_Coast_Sam: Vancouver Expansion? That was my nickname in college
junipertheory: which will let you draw, as well
Jundinator: Hi LRR. Is this the original WOTC version of the game?
Rockman4140: Sokka
millenomi_Aura: He's from Vancouver yep
DefaultWizard: @Jundinator no
Justinthomasmm: from Vancouver yeah!
InfiniteNutshell: @Jundinator this is modern netrunner! made by Null Signal Games
adamjford: nope this is the Null Signal Games version
CaKnuckleguy:
Excuse me Aura, he's FROM Edmonton
millenomi_Aura: FAIR
millenomi_Aura: he's in the Vancouver meta.
Jundinator: Awww, too bad. No playing the game as Garfield intended
CaKnuckleguy: I mean, I did buy him his first beer. He played with us since before he graduated high school
InfiniteNutshell: did ben get the zwicky draw
millenomi_Aura: yep
adamjford: they were talking about you, I think
CaKnuckleguy: He's a great guy
millenomi_Aura: all good.
adamjford: but I'm sure there's an Edmonton scene
adamjford: gasp
CaKnuckleguy: Yeah. Good group of folks here and in Calgary
millenomi_Aura: get value for egg
NoxStryx: Sorry, Is Zwicky a new corp? I only know NBN, HB, Weland and Jinteki
Justinthomasmm: eggs!!
InfiniteNutshell: @NoxStryx it's a Weyland identity
millenomi_Aura: Draw 4 is a NORMAL turn for Maggie.
adamjford: anyone know if there's anywhere to buy System Gateway in Edmonton, or should I just order it from NSG's Canadian store?
junipertheory: zwicky is weyland, yeah.
NoxStryx: @InfiniteNutshell Ahh, thanks that is what i was trying to ask.
itsme_orly: The dizzymizzy
adamjford: I need to convince my wife to get into this instead of draining her back account on Riftbound
CaKnuckleguy: @adamjford Order from the store. Goes through a guy in Calgary anyways
adamjford: rgr that ty
Jundinator: Who is playing Corp?
adamjford: bank account*
CWaltz86: @NoxStryx oooh sorry the faction you meant, gotcha
millenomi_Aura: Just the best barrier breaker in the format.
CaKnuckleguy: Ooh, please tell me Daeg is in this deck? My kitty is on that card (not Daeg, Squee)
millenomi_Aura: There are ways to add power counters but not in this deck.
InfiniteNutshell: so many modal effects
Elusive_Minstrel: Hey hey
Elusive_Minstrel: Nice to see Netrunner
roit_: yep, before draw
junipertheory: YEah, before draw.
millenomi_Aura: It's before the draw yeah
InfiniteNutshell: turn begins is before draw yes
Rockman4140: !timing
Rockman4140: Sorry, habit. XD
Getter404: Yes, you're at Buh which is before Duh
InfiniteNutshell: up to 3
jonesinforjosie: "up to"
roit_: i think it says "up to"
millenomi_Aura: Resolve up to 3
CWaltz86: up to
junipertheory: with careds like this, you canjust put it on ice regardless.
InfiniteNutshell: no reason NOT to put a counter though
junipertheory: It won't do anything, but it'll just be there.
millenomi_Aura: Normal turn for ZWICKY
InfiniteNutshell: maybe it doesn't do anything but wheeler doesn't know that
hyralt: Zwicky popping off
ThrinagaBattleheart: Took a shower, who won the first?
accountmadeforants: I see Ben's playing the Pokémon TCG
James_the_Dabbler: This is like the card game version of having an orgasm
InfiniteNutshell: @ThrinagaBattleheart ulmer
CaKnuckleguy: @ThrinagaBattleheart Ben
millenomi_Aura: A Ben won.
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Gotcha
junipertheory: wheeler, your deck is literally built to draw as much as possible. Try and find leapfrog, knicknack, or dr. nuka if you can.
CWaltz86: Runner
ThrinagaBattleheart:
One of the two Bens won
Getter404: @ThrinagaBattleheart The Ben with a beard and glasses.
roit_: for wheeler -- usually you want to try to end turn on 6+ cards so you get to use your ability
Human_Kirby: Zwicky doesn't draw for asset credits
letsbelgo: runners and corps have different board zones?
100luck: How many cards did you draw just now? I don't think Zwicky shoudln't have triggered from Wall to Wall
millenomi_Aura: A reminder that you can spend a click to draw a card any number of times you want.
ThrinagaBattleheart: Yep, their board states are VERY different @letsbelgo
glitched_goddess: are there cards that boost your clicks per turn?
millenomi_Aura: (As long as you have a click to spend.)
Getter404: Did you mulligan? Or was this a DOUBLE cursed opening hand?
CWaltz86: @letsbelgo they have different board systems yeah
Justinthomasmm: Zwicky doesn’t trigger off assets fyi
InfiniteNutshell: gotta click to draw to find your better-than-click-to-draw draw
letsbelgo: is it always runner vs corp?
InfiniteNutshell: yes
letsbelgo: okie
millenomi_Aura: Oh, I just caught that unfortunately the Wall to Wall doesn't trigger Zwicky. But it would go off now, yeah.
ThrinagaBattleheart: Corp is building their servers and protecting them, Runner is trying to build up their rig to run (or attack) servers
junipertheory: But you'd do it here anyways, yeah. haha
millenomi_Aura: All good.
InfiniteNutshell: you have discovered the convenient fix for drawing an extra card: just retroactively say it was a click to draw
InfiniteNutshell: : )
millenomi_Aura: : )
Rockman4140: : )
ThrinagaBattleheart:
Objective is for the Corp to score 7 agenda points by installing and advancing agendas, or for the Runner to steal 7 points by accessing agendas during runs @letsbelgo
East_Coast_Sam: Man, when Wheeler learns about Biotic Labor he's going to be so mad
InfiniteNutshell: wait did we retroactively click to draw? I think ben took 3 other actions
hyralt: Dr Nuka Cola
Getter404: "Hi Doctor Nuk!"
CWaltz86: i thnk game state is fine
millenomi_Aura: She's 2-3x of in so many Runner decks.
Human_Kirby: @InfiniteNutshell No, got the card from Hedge Fund
InfiniteNutshell: oh right
kevinth2: two ancestrals in a trench coat
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, all great.
millenomi_Aura: I'm keeping an eye on it.
InfiniteNutshell: yeah I blanked on that there was a correct zwicky trigger to replace the erroneous one
Getter404: Task Failed Successfully turn
InfiniteNutshell: discard step
millenomi_Aura: The discard step, yep.
millenomi_Aura: You have a window to use it before your turn end proper.
InfiniteNutshell: you DO still have an opportunity to use that right away, between discard step and end of turn
Rockman4140: : )
millenomi_Aura: There's a window to use abilities after the discard step makes you discard to your hand size.
runaway1978: Money money money
junipertheory: Yeah, you can immediately do that
roit_: yeah take all hte money
InfiniteNutshell: you can totally just take 4c yep
millenomi_Aura: Yep absolutely.
CaKnuckleguy: Get paid
millenomi_Aura: The leaf egg.
millenomi_Aura: You do not!
roit_: that one stays
InfiniteNutshell: and then later you can sell it to knickknack
junipertheory: No! Thats' what makes it good, you leave it there and then sell it and blow it up or whatever
millenomi_Aura: You have cards that flicker and sell it for value.
Getter404: Keep an unloaded asset around, that's the (formerly) FFG way
hyralt: egg
millenomi_Aura: egg
CWaltz86: leaf
millenomi_Aura: legg
adamjford: egg
millenomi_Aura: no, I retract legg.
CWaltz86: leagg?
Rockman4140: The only egg I know is AU Co and that's not thiss.
hyralt: l'egg
millenomi_Aura: Yep, you both do.
millenomi_Aura: 5 cards.
ThePinnacleNumberFour: 5 indeed
CWaltz86: max is 5
millenomi_Aura: Correct. Since the Runner doesn't see them, you discard facedown.
InfiniteNutshell: @Rockman4140 in mtg, "eggs" refers to a deck with lots of cheap artifacts that sacrifice to draw a card. so you can churn quickly through your deck
runaway1978: "Invisible hands" though
hyralt: Must be fing nice
adamjford: What if drawing cards, but TOO much
junipertheory: Do note, you can install an asset/agenda into one of your servers with cards, it'll just trash what's in there
adamjford: ^ oh that's very good to know
adamjford: does that just replace the Asset or Agenda, or do the Upgrades go too?
adamjford: and I assume it doesn't hit the ice
hyralt: Verb an adjective noun to verb and adjective noun and verb 2.
InfiniteNutshell: @adamjford you can trash whatever you want as part of an install
millenomi_Aura: @adamjford You must make sure that the trash ends up with only 1 asset or agenda, but the upgrades can stay!
adamjford: huzzah
InfiniteNutshell: ooooh
millenomi_Aura: Boom.
InfiniteNutshell: double slash and burn
junipertheory: well
InfiniteNutshell: hope there's a spin doctor on the board
hyralt: Rich get richer, dang
millenomi_Aura: And now there are 4 points in Archives. Hope you have a way to save those at instant speed.
CaKnuckleguy: Getting paid to score agenda is great
junipertheory: Go run archives right now and go get 4 points?
millenomi_Aura: Your deck is a control deck — you want to set up a lot and then when you run you will have a rig that can break anything.
Strebenherz: Wheeler you said jo riiiiight as I drove by someone
junipertheory: There's a card called spin doctor that lets you shuffle them back.
InfiniteNutshell: oh cool, wheeler is in business now
hyralt: Yesssssss
InfiniteNutshell: egg! egg! egg!
Kenseventy: If this is a ruse....
PMAvers: Sell it for TWO!
adamjford: e g g
hyralt: You can't run an omelette without breaking a few eggs
Saferwaters03: Ohhh we went straight into the deep end huh
adamjford: Omelette Run is the really depressing sequel to Chicken Run
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millenomi_Aura: This is basically an Oblivion Ring, essentially. If you touch a card you can yoink it there, and later cash it for value.
itsme_orly: Put it in the cup!
Territan: Did he just find the card that tells him To wax the legs of the nearest poultry?
hyralt: @adamjford lul
InfiniteNutshell: so instead of paying the trash cost of something, you can stick it on the cup for 1 credit
gsyhiap: @adamjford I assumed it was a fad diet
adamjford: pardon?
CaKnuckleguy: Trap a card, then trash later to access more from HQ
junipertheory: Basically, when you access a corp card, you put it on there and it gets exiled. Then, you can blow this card up while running HQ to see 2 extra cards.
roit_: it lets you take a card hostage and then use it to sweep HQ later
Getter404: We have Cup?
millenomi_Aura: You can yoink any card you end up touching, not just one from HQ, but otherwise yeah.
hyralt: Just tuck that non-agenda into your cup
millenomi_Aura: You've got it perfectly right.
junipertheory: Yep, that's exactly it.
glitched_goddess: isn’t cupolation when you’re playing with a kendama?
CaKnuckleguy: Yep! Legwork-on-a-stick!
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, all good so far.
InfiniteNutshell: @CaKnuckleguy it's not really "on a stick", you still only get one legwork
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millenomi_Aura: AND NOW WHEELER LEARNS A LESSON
hyralt: chop that unguarded remote
CaKnuckleguy: BYTE!
Getter404: NOM
jonesinforjosie: lmao
itsme_orly: Oh no!
Vinewood_OG: There went the budget.
PMAvers: At random.
Mr_Bitterness: Oh boy, good old SNARE!
junipertheory: Yeah, at random.
millenomi_Aura: YEP
InfiniteNutshell: at random
CWaltz86: love that art
hyralt: That's rough for Maggie
Mr_Bitterness: Welcome to Jinteki!
millenomi_Aura: Netrunner is a game of knowing this is in the format yeah.
Justinthomasmm: it stays on the board
roit_: you can yoink the byte if you want
Justinthomasmm: yes
millenomi_Aura: Yep, you did!
Justinthomasmm: you can host on cup
junipertheory: Oh yeah you could put it on the cup.
100luck: Yes, you can put it on the cup
itsme_orly: Yes you can cup the byte
Getter404: That yoinky sploinky
millenomi_Aura: Yep, accessing it is what triggered the damage as well. You get to use Access -> stuff during the access.
CWaltz86: pour a lil byte into the cup
InfiniteNutshell: @LoadingReadyRun can you pull up End of the Line so everybody knows the potential consequences of having a tag?
hyralt: Tuck that Byte into your Cup
niccus: putting a spider under tupperware
millenomi_Aura: Yep so far
itsme_orly: It let's you do a big 3 of 5 hand check if you feel you can find more points in hq
Justinthomasmm: running last click can be dangerous, that card also triggers from his hand. so it’s good to run with cards in hand
runaway1978: When you crack the cup, both cards get trashed into their owners graveyards
itsme_orly: On a future turn
wertyy42: what does it mean to be tagged?
Justinthomasmm: yes
InfiniteNutshell: yes
Mr_Bitterness: Oh yes
roit_: yep
CWaltz86: infinit tag
millenomi_Aura: A Runner can have any number of tags; they're tagged for as long as they have any.
InfiniteNutshell: and ben you can use the trash resource action now
PMAvers: Five seconds later...
PMAvers: *explosions*
Justinthomasmm: tags will let corp kill you
100luck: Some cards require tags to kill you
Haroldholmes25: gonna pop these tags?
itsme_orly: Draw 4!
millenomi_Aura: The Corp can trash the Runner's resources using their basic action also while they're tagged.
hyralt: @wertyy42 It's a state. There's lots of cards that say "If the runner is tagged, ..."
ThrinagaBattleheart: @wertyy42 The Corp can spend a click and 2 credits to trash a resource if the Runner is tagged, the Runner can spend the same to drop one tag, and there are cards that react to being tagged
itsme_orly: Zwickkkk
InfiniteNutshell: oh yeah there's also a zwicky draw here
Justinthomasmm: draw for zwicky yeah
wertyy42: gotcha ty!
millenomi_Aura: Yep, correct.
InfiniteNutshell:
yes we are so proud
roit_: there's a card in the format that gives 4 tags for one click
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NoxStryx: If i remember correctly Tags generally make you more susceptible to meat damage. Some strong corp cards don't work unless the runner it tagged.
CWaltz86: @wertyy42 in narrative its like the corp has a little info on the runner. who they are, where they are, income.
Justinthomasmm: it’s a hard game!!
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argusthecat: It's been a long time since I've played Netrunner. Plannogram seems like a wild corp card.
millenomi_Aura: @NoxStryx This is in fact the kind of deck that has those cards in it.
hyralt: @wertyy42 You're welcome!
Justinthomasmm: lots of info for new players yall are doing great
lamina5432: I’m just here to watch. had a friend who played this but wasn’t interested at the time.
CWaltz86: @argusthecat game is in a wild place
itsme_orly: Yall are playing some great netrunner for 3rd game and only 2nd in standard
InfiniteNutshell: discards go facedown
InfiniteNutshell: for corp
Justinthomasmm: so the corp can spend a click and 2 credits if the runner is tagged to trash resources fyi
junipertheory: Discard facedown, btw
Justinthomasmm: yes
runaway1978: Yes
CWaltz86: yes
jonesinforjosie: yes
millenomi_Aura: Yep, you can.
Mr_Bitterness: You know its an ICE
100luck: The cards in front have to be ICE
junipertheory: I'll tell you now: your deck has no trojans. That's just a tutor.
Mr_Bitterness: Only ICE protect a server
millenomi_Aura: You know it's an ice because it's the horizontal card in front of the server — only that can be ice.
NoxStryx: If it is sideways it is ICE
itsme_orly: You do know it's ice only ice goes horizontal in front of servers
itsme_orly: Just dont know which specific ice or type while unrezzed
InfiniteNutshell: you probably just get back coalescence
runaway1978: Just a tutor
CaKnuckleguy: It's good to get an icebreaker that you (probably) need
roit_: you usually want to get back the coalescence from the bin
InfiniteNutshell: or a breaker
Mr_Bitterness: It's a Program tutor
millenomi_Aura: I don't think this deck has trojans. But this Muse can go fetch a breaker or some eggs. Muse is a deamon so it can't just chain search for itself.
millenomi_Aura: daemon*
InfiniteNutshell: oooh
YsengrinSC: coalescence is the most common grab here (cause you can Knickack multiple times)
CaKnuckleguy: Oh hell yes
jonesinforjosie: lol
jonesinforjosie: get recked open r&d
YsengrinSC: but Stargate is more fun!
runaway1978: Classic
hyralt: Just hearing Daemon makes me want to watch Reboot again
roit_: oh boy lol
Rockman4140: Yooooo! Table byte hit!
InfiniteNutshell: your memory is full now but you're good thanks to DZMZ
Human_Kirby:
Don't worry, most players also don't know about Stargate
millenomi_Aura: It will stay on top of it. If you sell the Muse to Knickknack both will get trashed, basically.
InfiniteNutshell: the stargate has to be on top of muse now though
junipertheory: It just means that if muse gets trashed it'll trash stargate too.
Saferwaters03: Straight from 1 to like... 8
roit_: muse stays on the board and hogs a MU
InfiniteNutshell: yes
Saferwaters03: Yup, still need to pay the cost
millenomi_Aura: Yep. And yep.
Mr_Bitterness: Yes, because it doesn't say ignore the cost
Justinthomasmm: your memory is full, but yes that’s fine, yes pay the cost
jonesinforjosie: if you sell muse to knicknack, stargate will also die
CaKnuckleguy: No click
junipertheory: Still pay the cost, still costs memory, just that if muse is exploded this gets exploded too.
millenomi_Aura: Nope!
runaway1978: Just means it's physically located on the other card
InfiniteNutshell: and muse is still installed and taking up its MU
100luck: It is on the muse and muse's MU still counts
glitched_goddess: I appreciate any game that lets me say “I love stargate”
CaKnuckleguy: Muse is a MUY
Mr_Bitterness: Plus the Muse is still there
CaKnuckleguy: MU
Rockman4140: Yooo!
CWaltz86: OHHH GUN!!!
ThrinagaBattleheart:
It's just a gun
CWaltz86: love guns
niccus: a gun is a hacking tool sometimes
InfiniteNutshell: and the other two go back in the same order
millenomi_Aura: You don't breach, so you don't get to access or steal the card, but you can look at the top 3 cards, discard 1, and put the other backs in the order they were.
Human_Kirby: Oh we learn about MR now
junipertheory: Do read measured response.
30teracyte: it matters what order they started in
roit_: keep them in the same order they were in off the top
millenomi_Aura: Threat level is the maximum amount of points that any player has. So it works right now because Wheeler has 4 agenda point.
millenomi_Aura: points*.
hyralt: Meat damage: it's not core damage!
ThrinagaBattleheart: Sure isn't!
LoadingReadyRun:
does the Byte in the Archive active if the runner goes for the archive?
CaKnuckleguy: No
InfiniteNutshell: so if wheeler trashes measured response, the agenda will now be on top of R&D
ThrinagaBattleheart: Not at all
roit_: nope, byte says it's not online in archives
millenomi_Aura: Byte!'s text says explicitly while it isn't in Archives.
Justinthomasmm: byte doesn’t trigger from archives
junipertheory: You can only stargate once per turn
millenomi_Aura: Stargate is once per turn.
Justinthomasmm: can only use star gate once per turn
InfiniteNutshell: stargate says once per turn
NoxStryx: Meat damage and net damage are the same, discard a card at random. They are thematically different, and different things stop it.
millenomi_Aura: Yep, caught it.
junipertheory: But you ccan R&D immediately to just, take the greenmail
Justinthomasmm: yes
InfiniteNutshell: why do you get money? I don't think you get money ben
Rockman4140: There was an older card that /did/ trigger in Archives, all the time it gets run.
roit_: ben shouldn't get 4 for that, that's only if you sacrifice the agenda
junipertheory: Nah, greenmail doesn't give you money ben sadly
InfiniteNutshell: forfeit is a different thing than the runner stealing
30teracyte: forfeiting is not the same thing as stealing
itsme_orly: Green mail doesn't pay out when it is stolen only when it is forfeit
PMAvers: So there's some cards that require you to lose a scored agenda as a cost.
Mr_Bitterness: Forfeiting is like sacrificing a scored agenda to do a thing
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, Ben has to score it to get the money. The runner STEALING it unfortunately does not cause it to trigger something. To forfeit means to remove the agenda from the game to pay a cost for some wild cards that ask you to give up points.
Justinthomasmm: forfeit is to remove from score area and the game
CWaltz86: oh we really just threw em in the deep end eh
millenomi_Aura: Of which there's one in this deck.
hyralt: Y'all are really biting into the Carolina Reaper now!
dull_bulb: Forfeit is when a scored agenda is RFG'd by another card
Rockman4140: You would forfeit an agenda to power some really nasty ICE for example.
Saferwaters03: @CWaltz86 had exact same first message haha
dagoth__ur_: is ben playing yugio?
Human_Kirby: @CWaltz86 First game was Esa vs LEO, so yes
CWaltz86: yaaaa true
Justinthomasmm: it’s a lot, but y’all are doing great
dull_bulb: You guys are doing great
roit_: this is admittedly quite a lot
niccus: this isn't throwing them in the deep end, they broke into the water park and locked the lifeguards out
evilbrennan: Yeah y'all are killing it
InfiniteNutshell: click 3 was advance? did ben pay the credit?
Saferwaters03: Its k, we can all be wrong and bad together
millenomi_Aura: honestly this is a good game doing the good things.
Mr_Bitterness: Yeah this is like giving newbies some Canadian Highlander decks. But you're doing well!
CWaltz86: you're doing great
lamina5432: as someone who knows nothing you are doing great.
millenomi_Aura: Unfortunately the intermediate level kind of doesn't quite exist.
Justinthomasmm: I’ve been playing for like 10 years so I forget how complicated it can be for new players
Decaped: still wrong and bad, just helpfully wrong and bad
hyralt: There's been some great back and forth. You love to see it.
millenomi_Aura: Statistically, some of them say the truth some of the time!
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hyralt: I thought Ben had it at first, but then Ben's deck really popped off.
Manitu_25: I have no idea what's happening, it looks and sounds awesome and I think you're doing an amazing job lol
EldritchProwler: The other 200 are also telling the truth, but are wrong
InfiniteNutshell: @millenomi_Aura I mean we COULD have done system gateway constructed
InfiniteNutshell: but like, there aren't established decks for that
couchboyj: And at least 50 know less than you but act like they know more
hyralt: Ben, do the chop!
CWaltz86: is think startup might have also been a good second step
InfiniteNutshell: so it's probably more work to set up
Justinthomasmm: you have an open mu
Mangledpixel: prime numbered guards tell the truth but only if the guard next to them has not told a lie after the guard to the other side of them has told the truth
InfiniteNutshell: you can blow up stargate and leave muse, but muse would take stargate with it yeah
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, correct.
Saferwaters03: That is correct, if the Muse gets trashed, then everything it hosts (the Stargate here) gets trashed.
glitched_goddess: @mangledpixel are the guards bits? jfc
InfiniteNutshell: you do have an open MU since you got rid of cup though
LoadingReadyRun:
Runner can't afford more memory. Too real
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, you have 2 MU open right now. You probably want to look for more DZMZ or find your (very good) console.
junipertheory: You should probably clear the tag, yeah.
Mangledpixel: @glitched_goddess worse, they're qbits
glitched_goddess: lmao
shallowrain: as somebody who only played the first edition some of this is wild to see
Decaped: @LoadingReadyRun Gonna buy so many board games when my computer finally calls it quits.
millenomi_Aura: ok that's wild.
InfiniteNutshell: I hope the advanced card is a clearinghouse and ben just goes triple advance don't score
InfiniteNutshell: it's probably an agenda though
Justinthomasmm: clearing house without knowing that card exists is rough
CaKnuckleguy: Going off! Or...going...done?
InfiniteNutshell: hope he has a spin doctor this time or the game is just over
millenomi_Aura: Well, I sure hope you have a way to pick that up at instant speed, because the Runner is on match point right now.
millenomi_Aura: Or ice to protect it.
InfiniteNutshell: ice archives would potentially work in the short term
hyralt: Credits really add up for the corp when they don't have to rez any ICE, huh?
junipertheory: If you don't have a spin doctor, you should probably just advance that 3 times and ignore the slash and burn.
millenomi_Aura: gods so much would break
CWaltz86: thats just a different game
CWaltz86:
millenomi_Aura: woof. safe
Human_Kirby: Thats why you have 4 clicks while the corp has 3 and a draw
InfiniteNutshell: I do really hope we SEE a spin doctor at some point today
NoxStryx: If you wanted that wheeler you could just use your first click every turn to draw a card
Jturbobanana: OMG, it's been sooo long since I played Netrunner!
millenomi_Aura: The Muse only costs 1, it's discounted by the DZMZ
Rockman4140: @Jturbobanana It's been going strong! Come join us, we're releasing a new set in a few weeks!
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InfiniteNutshell: it's pronounced "oiler"
CaKnuckleguy: 'oiler'
runaway1978: Oiler
r10pez10: uwuluh
InfiniteNutshell: it's a mathematician's name
niccus: go oilers
adamjford: goilers
junipertheory: yeah, sadly your deck ben is more about setting up for a big kill then ti is about doing a lot of damage all the time. You also really, really wanna find your Spin Doctors XD
Decaped: a mathematician....basically, THE mathematician
r10pez10: ol' lenny oils
millenomi_Aura: Oh, look, a code gate XD
glitched_goddess: spin doctors sound like the moxes of this game
InfiniteNutshell: @glitched_goddess spin doctor is more like a flash blocker
junipertheory: Yep
Jturbobanana: @Rockman4140 new set? But ffg discontinued this a long time ago.
jonesinforjosie: ya
millenomi_Aura: Yep!
dull_bulb: Yepp
InfiniteNutshell: yes multiple times is good
itsme_orly: Yep just gotta meet str
millenomi_Aura: But you need to get up to strength first.
CaKnuckleguy: Yes you can. Once you've reached the Ice strength
itsme_orly: Then multiplenfree breaks
millenomi_Aura: Yep, correct.
Justinthomasmm: yes, have to match strength
millenomi_Aura: All good.
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, but read it XD
CWaltz86: w*manizerrrr
NoxStryx: @Jturbobanana Fans kept it going and started a non-profit to keep making new sets
Rockman4140: @Jturbobanana The game has been going strong for years. After FFG killed it, a collective banded together to form a company to keep it going. It has a bunch of expansions.
itsme_orly: Greenmail!
runaway1978: Biawak is free with greenmail
millenomi_Aura: Yep, you would lose 1 of your scored agendas and remove it form the game to do it.
InfiniteNutshell: does wheeler know the slash and burn is there
hyralt: Live your life, Wheeler!
millenomi_Aura: Jinteki cards do their job. Fear the red.
itsme_orly: The winning points are face up
CaKnuckleguy: Archives is game over if it's a code gate on it
Jturbobanana: @Rockman4140 Woah, where can I find info?
Preachieved: is this rejig mags?
junipertheory: Yeah, it's rejig mags
millenomi_Aura: @Preachieved yep
InfiniteNutshell: @Jturbobanana nullsignal.games
CWaltz86: @Jturbobanana null signal games
Jturbobanana: Thx!!!
CaKnuckleguy: Ben didn't know you had a Code Gate breaker when he installed that ice
millenomi_Aura: Or it's a bluff… … … … who knows… … …
CWaltz86: head tap emojis
millenomi_Aura: lol
millenomi_Aura: Who knows if that ice is good
Kenseventy: Not all ice stops you
CaKnuckleguy: Yes! Go Wide!
millenomi_Aura: LOL
InfiniteNutshell: oooh
millenomi_Aura: perfect
Marvoleath: !paullove
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CWaltz86: love this play
James_the_Dabbler: What on earth
roadtwothewest: Should I read into netrunner being played on patch Tuesday lol
junipertheory: So, there's a card called SPIN DOCTOR in your deck. You can rez and use that at instant speed to save agendas from archives.
InfiniteNutshell: draw 1 card
millenomi_Aura: Eggs time.
CWaltz86: four cards
millenomi_Aura: oh shoot
CWaltz86: jeez
InfiniteNutshell: ooh
millenomi_Aura: ok it WAS good ice. but, good news, it doesn't the run.
InfiniteNutshell: so wheeler would have won if he'd run archives last turn
InfiniteNutshell: now, there might be a spin doctor on the board to save ven
millenomi_Aura: Bengineering gets to choose.
InfiniteNutshell: *ben
millenomi_Aura: Subroutines talk to the Corp.
itsme_orly: Corp picks
s0lesurviv0r: has Null Signal made any independent runners like Sunny, Adam, or Apex?
millenomi_Aura: YES HE'S HERE
junipertheory: the remove from the game is an instant speed ability
lamina5432: lot of doctors.
InfiniteNutshell: not a decoder
InfiniteNutshell: but, you could choose the other muse
InfiniteNutshell: and indirectly trash the decoder
CaKnuckleguy: Trash the OTHER muse (that also trashed the decoder)
runaway1978: Can't trash decoders directly with hammer
hyralt: Doctor that spin!
CaKnuckleguy: Spin Doctor for the save
Rockman4140: Spin! That! Doctor!
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millenomi_Aura: That other one is the gun that can kill the runner dead.
junipertheory: YAAAY SPIN
PMAvers:
kynelwynn: Crap! I forgot this was today at 1.. I missed soo much
CWaltz86: good spin
InfiniteNutshell: well, it's knickknack fuel
CaKnuckleguy: You couldn't choose the decoder anyways
junipertheory: It doesn't really matter enough
Mr_Bitterness: Hammer can't kill the Decoder directly
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, they're not doing much without a way to sell them to a Knickknack.
OdsyWrenn: @rockman4140 howdy!
CaKnuckleguy: Got there
millenomi_Aura: Yep, all good.
InfiniteNutshell: hey wheeler cleared his tag like, several turns ago, right?
InfiniteNutshell: the die is still on the ID
millenomi_Aura: This is a new one from the Hammer.
CaKnuckleguy: Got a new one
CWaltz86: new tag
millenomi_Aura: He's passing tagged.
InfiniteNutshell: oh there's a new tag?
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millenomi_Aura: The value.
InfiniteNutshell: I never remember hammer has a tag sub
hyralt:
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kynelwynn: @hyralt Oh? Muchas gracias. I allow you a free access on my R&D and HQ this turn
InfiniteNutshell: end of the line???
Rockman4140: "Cards in hand?" XD
CaKnuckleguy: Oooooh!
InfiniteNutshell: yesss
Rockman4140: OH NO
millenomi_Aura: BOOM
Getter404: RIGHT to the kidneys, oof.
Jensling: Wait, what's the other rezzed asset for the wall to wall?
hyralt: @kynelwynn You're welcome! Ooh, gotta run HQ then.
CaKnuckleguy: Borealis had such good art
ekplayscards: WHAT UP GAMERS
millenomi_Aura: ben just shot ben
InfiniteNutshell: @Jensling wall to wall does 3 modes if you DON'T have any other rezzed assets
Jensling: oh I misread xD
OdsyWrenn: EK!
Getter404: This Ben on Ben violence must not stand
r10pez10: howdy ek
Mr_Bitterness: Ben just hired a hitman to shoot Wheeler's Runner.
ekplayscards: @OdsyWrenn hiiiiii excited to hang out this weekend 😲
Justinthomasmm: I think the more you’ll play you’ll find consistency
voltprime: Luv it, you always have chance
hyralt: This is Richard Garfield's masterpiece
ekplayscards: HEY BEN HEY BENBEN
millenomi_Aura: Yeah Knickknack's a cool guy.
CWaltz86: @hyralt 100%
OdsyWrenn: @ekplayscards I'm not gonna be there 😭
millenomi_Aura: Yeah all good.
s0lesurviv0r:
@Mr_Bitterness that is the Weyland way 
ekplayscards: omg im the worst 😭
Getter404: 3 layers of ice and he hasn't ticked a single advance on it?
InfiniteNutshell: I mean that card only went down last turn
millenomi_Aura: If it's an agenda.
anarchomushroom: I'm assuming this is startup
millenomi_Aura: Otherwise, he couldn't.
InfiniteNutshell: nope, standard
CWaltz86: nope standard
hyralt: @Getter404 Gotta be a trap or something, right? But that's so much ICE for a trap
millenomi_Aura: Startup is moderately messy right now.
runaway1978: Hi shroom
anarchomushroom: o/
e_bloc: only time for a zwicky
niccus: @hyralt the Home Alone gambit
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LoadingReadyRun: I'm pretty sure that they're legally obligated to have Colm Meaney play Nicknack O'Brian if there is a Netrunner movie
InfiniteNutshell: the trash-a-resource action doesn't expend the tag
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, you could have just before the shoot. You don't remove the tag when you use the basic action to trash a tagged player's resources.
InfiniteNutshell: the runner just has to be tagged
CWaltz86: the tag doesnt go away if you use the click ability to trash resources
millenomi_Aura: Live and learn.
CWaltz86: ignore my message
InfiniteNutshell: so much learning today, it's great to watch
millenomi_Aura: Remember your ID installs stuff XD
hyralt: @LoadingReadyRun Chief Nicknack O'Brian
r10pez10: is gros michel in this
CaKnuckleguy: Tempo-meat damage
SwordOfTheStorms: hi chat hi Bens! is it supermodernism Zwiki?
millenomi_Aura: It is.
junipertheory: Yeah, it is.
SwordOfTheStorms: cool
CaKnuckleguy: Thousand Cuts Jinteki was like that. Constant pings of net damage. People tended to either love it (me) or hate it (so so many others)
InfiniteNutshell: game point
junipertheory: Both players on game point.
NoxStryx: "I was expecting this deck to be more damage to you" the turn after he does 4 damage to him.
millenomi_Aura: Threatening lethal, I see.
CWaltz86: threat level 5 - all
junipertheory: It's funny, because that sort of "constantly doing damage" deck is a control deck in netrunner
SwordOfTheStorms: grind them down
SwordOfTheStorms: corp agro is rush yeah
OdsyWrenn: Zwicky ability?
millenomi_Aura: Aggro is scoring real quick yeah.
millenomi_Aura: We call 'em 'rush'
Human_Kirby: Yeah, this deck is rushing agendas and shoot with Meassured Response if they interfere
ThatLooseCake: Kill is usually combo, grinder is more control
anarchomushroom: traditional deck archetypes don't suuuuper correlate well with netrunner
mo0man: Little bits of damage is control, but some decks do large amounts of damage, and those are closer to rush
anarchomushroom: like all runners are kinda control decks fundamentally, but that's kinda getting into the philosophical weeds
awesomedudeski: Graham read my message yesterday
30teracyte: little pings of damage are more of a tax on their resources, dedicated kill decks are more about using cards like end of the line
Saferwaters03: Aggro/Midrange/Control don't perfectly match onto archetypes. Sometimes you can fudge it a bit within types. i.e. if you have an ice-based scoring strategy, Aggro would be "Rush" and Control would be "Glacier" and somewhere inbetween would be midrange. But that doesn't account for damage.
Rockman4140: The Automata Initiative - the set Lilypad is from.
millenomi_Aura: Damage and FA are essentially combo.
Rockman4140: Going deep! Yeah!
InfiniteNutshell: your deck is about creating forks. you present a choice (usually in the form of an agenda on the table), and then you punish the runner no matter what they chose--usually by scoring if they didn't challenge your agenda, and by killing them if they did
junipertheory: welp, lets see how it goes
Rockman4140: Running the corp low on money is good.
CaKnuckleguy: Make the corp spend the money to rez. Always a good play
Saferwaters03: Rush decks can also play kill threats to tax runner on tempo and that's different than just trying to score to 7 ASAP
millenomi_Aura: Oh. Oh no
itsme_orly: Its free actually
SwordOfTheStorms: and you get money from the forfeit
runaway1978: Forfeit pays you 4
InfiniteNutshell: but then you get the 4 back, look at greenmail again
millenomi_Aura: You have a trigger from the Greenmail when it is forfeited.
junipertheory:
No, ulmer gets to choose
itsme_orly: Corp chooses subs
CaKnuckleguy: Corp chooses which part of that sub to fire
InfiniteNutshell: ben you choose which thing happens. subroutines are addressed to the corp
SwordOfTheStorms: the last subroutine ends the run
hyralt: Whombo combo
awesomedudeski: Graham read my message yesterday
SwordOfTheStorms: you choose Ben
millenomi_Aura: Bengineering chooses what to do. Subroutines talk to the Corp.
CaKnuckleguy: Ya. You're hooped
millenomi_Aura: Forfeited agendas are removed from the game.
anarchomushroom: man I wish runner chose that'd tight as hell
InfiniteNutshell: only 1 program lbown up
InfiniteNutshell: second subroutine is trash a resource
Mr_Bitterness: Program, then Resource, then End the Run
anarchomushroom: "I choose not to get absolutely rinsed"
millenomi_Aura: 1 Program and 1 Resource, yeah. not 2 Programs. But it doesn't super matter.
itsme_orly: You have 1 less pt
millenomi_Aura: So you get to put the Euler back or the Rising Tide.
SwordOfTheStorms: they break different things
millenomi_Aura: One is for code gates and one is for barriers.
LoadingReadyRun: I like to imagine that all this learning is actually taking place in-universe. Corp: "You can do that?" Runner: "I guess so?" Corp: "Oh wait, what about this?"
SwordOfTheStorms: you currently have no barriers rezzed
millenomi_Aura: @LoadingReadyRun a novice sysop and a novice runner just going at it
CWaltz86: @millenomi_Aura i wsa thinking the same thing
junipertheory: @LoadingReadyRun The corp has tons of guns, but isn't sure how to actually fire them. "Wait, which button is it?? Did we miss??"
InfiniteNutshell: now the question becomes: is there a third greenmail in the deck? (in which case ben could potentially draw it and score out the same turn)
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millenomi_Aura: that tempo headshot really put the Runner back.
lostgeek: @InfiniteNutshell It's even in hand!
millenomi_Aura: You run on a server to trash something in another.
junipertheory: If it's pinhole threading: That's for trashing an asset in a server that's covered in ice by going thoruh a different server.
InfiniteNutshell: oh lmao
InfiniteNutshell: don't give that away to wheeler though
SwordOfTheStorms: let’s you trash assets/upgrades protected in another server
westenra1: tempo headshot is a great sentence lol
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CaKnuckleguy: You can't steal it, but you can trash annoying things
millenomi_Aura: No agenda stuff yeah.
lostgeek: oh shoot good point
InfiniteNutshell: pinhole can't get you accesses in the corp's hand or deck though
SwordOfTheStorms: there’s nothing to trash with pinhole right now
InfiniteNutshell: only installed cards
lostgeek: I'm not used to this lol
millenomi_Aura: Right now the only thing you can access that is installed is the Wall to Wall.
hyralt: This is so deliciously tense
Justinthomasmm: it can’t get you access to hand
CaKnuckleguy: HQ isn't 'in the root' no
junipertheory: Nope, just remotes.
SwordOfTheStorms: root is only assets and upgrades
jonesinforjosie: other way around
mo0man: There isn't a good target at the moment
millenomi_Aura: No, unfortunately. "In the root" is just for stuff that was put down on the board.
PMAvers: sometimes you just gotta get rid of a annoying upgrade that's protecting the scoring server.
junipertheory: Pinhole is uselses right now, lol
InfiniteNutshell: well technically if there are upgrades on a central server, you could use pinhole to access one of those
millenomi_Aura: Cards in the deck and in the hand are not "in the root", they're just in their respective piles and not installed.
Justinthomasmm: @InfiniteNutshell ^^
CaKnuckleguy: There are nasty upgrades that make running remotes very hard. Pinhole gets those upgrades via another open server
InfiniteNutshell: but that's fairly uncommon?
InfiniteNutshell: depends on the deck
millenomi_Aura: Oh wait is there a sentry breaker in the heap
InfiniteNutshell: revolver yeah
Justinthomasmm: Hail Mary run HQ
millenomi_Aura: oh is this the possible come back.
millenomi_Aura: oh wow
Kenseventy: That can be used at instant speed
Mr_Bitterness: Shaper bullshit! Hell yeah!
CaKnuckleguy: Get a killer!
millenomi_Aura: IS IT TIME FOR GUN
Justinthomasmm: you can do that mid run
SwordOfTheStorms: lol
millenomi_Aura: or that.
InfiniteNutshell: nice line
ThatLooseCake: You pay the additional cost when you trash simulchip, fwiw
CaKnuckleguy: Heh, yeah that works
millenomi_Aura: Yeah, it's an activated ability so you can use it at instant speed if you want. But this also all work.
hyralt: This could be it
SwordOfTheStorms: with stargate?
InfiniteNutshell: is this last click or is there one left to hit archives?
SwordOfTheStorms: this is last click
millenomi_Aura: Ice is installed, if that helps you somewhere else.
InfiniteNutshell: alas
SwordOfTheStorms: euler can break
junipertheory: So you gotta pay 3 to increases strenght to 5, and then 2 credits per subroutine you want to break.
millenomi_Aura: Yep.
itsme_orly: Might consider to let fire it is quite expensive to break oooooh nice hits!
itsme_orly: Gettem!
SwordOfTheStorms: does wheeler die to double measure?
Kenseventy: Cards in hand?
CaKnuckleguy: Can Ulmer pull it off?
wowarlok: Omg I still caught this live. Let's goo!
SwordOfTheStorms: hahahaahha
SwordOfTheStorms: gg
CaKnuckleguy: Whew!
millenomi_Aura: You are dead to a simpler thing, turns out.
Saferwaters03: Greenmail gets there
CaKnuckleguy: gg
junipertheory: AYEEE
hyralt: gg
SwordOfTheStorms: called it!
Saferwaters03: gg
lostgeek: gg
InfiniteNutshell: gg
millenomi_Aura: gg
DefaultWizard: good game
junipertheory: gg!!!!! godf that was fuckin close
dull_bulb: Damn one click off
jonesinforjosie: close!
itsme_orly: Thisnis some deep end netrunner! Good stuff
Saferwaters03: Incredibly impressive that 3rd game of Netrunner is on these lists!!
flowerseses: yesss. it is such a good and unique game
Justinthomasmm: if a regular run would have scored off the top, ggs!!
millenomi_Aura: You did incredible for just getting down and trying a complicated machine!
SwordOfTheStorms: kudos to both of you
lamina5432: game seems good
SwordOfTheStorms: shaper takes a while to learn
tiwanll: cheers both!
millenomi_Aura: Maggie wanted more draw, and that gunshot really hurt them.
dull_bulb: That was their 3rd game? Crazy
Justinthomasmm: great job to both of y’all
r10pez10: good shit
mo0man: Ya I ordinarily would not recommend a shaper bullshit deck to be the one of the first games you play
tiwanll: this game is not easy and these decks are not easy
junipertheory: Nope, it's a secret
itsme_orly: Some people do for fun
itsme_orly: But not needed
SwordOfTheStorms: for fun
millenomi_Aura: No, it's a secret, but a judge may ask.
Rockman4140: Did runner win? I looked away a sec.
CaKnuckleguy: Competitive, nah. Good manners in a friendly
DefaultWizard: @Rockman4140 corp won
dull_bulb: Nah we just trust
millenomi_Aura: You get got real quick if you try some shit.
Rockman4140: Damn
roit_: generally you don't, it's not like morph
flowerseses: no, the game assumes we're all adults who want fair games
Mr_Bitterness: @Rockman4140 Noope, Ben fast advanced a 2-1 for the win
Saferwaters03: You can always call judge but people don't really cheat at Netrunner tournaments
runaway1978: Scored 7
InfiniteNutshell: check out nullsignal.games for previews of the new set coming out in two weeks!
Rockman4140: Both of you should play Shell game one day.
junipertheory: Good job. Those were some very serious decks and you did really well!!!
millenomi_Aura: Thanks for getting through this.
hyralt: A corpo? Lying? Surely not!
Saferwaters03: If you installed an agenda as an ice or something, immediate game loss.
Getter404: "It was for finding lost dogs. I swear."
Anubis169: no thank YOU
flowerseses: @InfiniteNutshell is there a new rotation coming?
CaKnuckleguy: Thanks Ben's
millenomi_Aura: @flowerseses nope!
clockworkmenagerie: thanks bens!
millenomi_Aura: THANKS!!!!
millenomi_Aura: You've been champs
InfiniteNutshell: @flowerseses for startup, not for standard
hyralt: Thanks for running those nets!
lamina5432: Gnight wheeler. see Ben in an hour ish.
flowerseses: ggs!
Saferwaters03: @flowerseses New set dropping in 2 weeks
OdsyWrenn: Thanks 💞
millenomi_Aura: evilbrennan is on notice
Anubis169: !patreon
CWaltz86: we play for alt arts
Justinthomasmm: if you go say hi to Dave for me
EvilBadman:
so 2027 netrunner champ stream right?
Anubis169: !store
Preachieved: thanks for the stream!
Anubis169: !youtube
DefaultWizard: is there more netrunner on the calendar
InfiniteNutshell: thanks ben and ben!
Rockman4140: More next week?
Anubis169:
Thank you for not getting the channel demonetised, Wheeler
millenomi_Aura: See you next week!
Mr_Bitterness: Thanks for the stream, hope you guys had fun!
millenomi_Aura: the byte! the byte! I'm happy it happened.
Anubis169: !schedule
Juliamon: It's uneven, but it's not... *bad*
junipertheory: god i've been there
Anubis169: That was a fair cutoff
millenomi_Aura: yay!
Vinewood_OG: Yeah that was some sloppy slop.
Anubis169: oh boy...
Twilight_Spark: Holy shit.
Twilight_Spark: Core memory unlocked.
InfiniteNutshell: OMG I REMEMBER THIS GAME
millenomi_Aura: IT'S TIME
niccus: some real card design
30teracyte: My childhood
Anubis169: cannot wait for this
millenomi_Aura: exactly all of them
InfiniteNutshell: I remember nothing ABOUT it but I absolutely remember the box of all things
Vinewood_OG: Which pokemon? Yes.
gualdhar: WOW
Dog_of_Myth:
EvilBadman: real friend, singular
itira:
Anubis169: 'playing' is a relative term with this game
Vinewood_OG: "We're friends?"
accountmadeforants: Oh this is the one where everyone had a differently coloured figurine of Ash right?
Twilight_Spark: I had wholly forgotten this thing, but I know I played it.
Justinthomasmm: thanks for playing netrunner guys
Kipstar: fffffff fellow employees
glitched_goddess: fearow is worth a decent amount of points!
Vinewood_OG: Peepawmon
gualdhar: what could possibly be happening Friday
Twilight_Spark: It's good but also it whipped my ass.
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Juliamon: Remote Long Game
millenomi_Aura: hope you enjoy!!!!! it's a cool time
accountmadeforants: Oh, I remember the last stream you did. Seemed cool!
Getter404: Super Jackbox RPG
accountmadeforants: Gloomhaven but not quite so... Gloomhaven.
RatherLargeToad: cow. a. bunga.
hyralt: Yessssssssss TNMT
millenomi_Aura: 🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢🐢
accountmadeforants: Oh hell I'd blocked this out of my mind already
glitched_goddess: they have a card for the giant cow head ffs
thingo314: 🐢 🐢 🐢 🐢
RatherLargeToad: It’s just the Simic, really
Strebenherz: what
30teracyte: aagh
InfiniteNutshell: how many of peter parker were in the spider-man set
EvilBadman: (laughs in Karakas)
Strebenherz: @EvilBadman Karakas continues to get mileage
loufghyslaufey: Would James actually know them all- omg are there actually THAT many characters in TMNT for an ENTIRE SET?
30teracyte: that's from one of the bay ones yeah
glitched_goddess: he made 2
Getter404: He made TWO
Vinewood_OG: TMNT is an 80s 90s thing. That's it.
lamina5432: the time they went to the future was great
RatherLargeToad: it’s an interesting property since kids have been growing up with turtles for generations, but not the same turtles
ArmstrongRGM96X: I'm legitimately intrigued by this lens of analysis
ContingentCat: Wow
EvilBadman: big recommend Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem, film from 2023
Strebenherz: no music
glitched_goddess: send the turtles to Baghdad
Dog_of_Myth:
hyralt: subssssss
Strebenherz: nvm there we go
tinaun: jamie!
InfiniteNutshell: @tinaun hi hello what's up
tinaun: oh I just saw you in the sub list
tinaun: hope you had a good day
InfiniteNutshell: I got gifted a sub as soon as I mentioned I'm in NSG haha
Justinthomasmm: hope y’all had fun!!
hyralt: It's a light week, spent a lot this weekend
millenomi_Aura: Thank you for being game! It was a hard sell and I'm glad you got it through
InfiniteNutshell: @tinaun same to you!
KWardJenx: Thank you!
millenomi_Aura: Bye!
tinaun:
hyralt: Thanks all!
Commodore_Perry_GG:
ContingentCat: !next
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