RockPusher: !quote beej
LRRbot: Quote #8534: "I'm about to make some very poor decisions." —Beej [2023-05-13]
TXC2: only some?
RubikDarkwill: It's ture. We have no control over what Beej says (or does)
TXC2: and that "we" includes Beej himself
Earthenone: although surely beej's royal we is spelled "wii"
Manae: !next
RockPusher: Beej is governed by the chaos that lies at the bottom of all reality
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Manae:
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LordZarano: !next
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TXC2: title change!
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TXC2: CONTACT
kingandcommoner: so everyone's spamming their next starter right?
TheMerricat:
Afternoon chat, I hope your Fridays are going well. I spent the morning looking for a shirt I had _just_ taken off because when I turned around it had 'disappeared'. 
God, I'm so fucking absentminded sometimes.
RockPusher: TheMerricat had you in fact removed said shirt? 'cause I have def searched for clothing I was wearing before
TXC2:
could be worse, you could have spent time looking for the reading glasses that were on your head the whole time 
Creideiki_SE: That's just logical. How are you supposed to see your own head, especially if you aren't wearing glasses?
TheMerricat:
@RockPusher I took it off, and _thought_ I had put it down on the bed. But when I I turned back around to put it away... Turns out appearantly I didn't realize my own 'strength' it had slid between the bed and the headboard...despite the fact that I was on the other end of the bed.
ArtDecoSunburn: @TXC2 A true marker of the age when now at holiday gatherings people younger than you explain the latest technologies, instead of you being in the explainer role for prior generations.
RockPusher:
that's just perfectly legitimate weird situation, no absentmindedness required 
TXC2: ArtDecoSunburn the horror
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheMerricat Perhaps your headboard has developed sentience and now hungers for cotton/poly blends?
TXC2: TODAY!
TheMerricat:
@ArtDecoSunburn
Akaiatana: Heather's the human.
mtvcdm: Which one of you is the human
TheAinMAP: Got to get those numbers up.
TheMerricat:
You look sad Beej. 
SocraticMethod: @mtvcdm 1/2. 1/3 and 1/6 humans, certified
mtvcdm: Robots chirp at you for low batteries, that's food
RockPusher: The robot says you must be ---This--- old to Experience Beej
TXC2: the 33% keeps moving between them
mtvcdm: "A large, properly-formatted data file"
TheMerricat:
@mtvcdm With a well documented specification.
ArtDecoSunburn: @mtvcdm Bestill my heart.
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheMerricat (Swoons)
RockPusher: Beej would totally download a couch
TXC2: !addquote (Heather) [now] Oh, you want to go the legal method?
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TXC2: silly putty couch?
SocraticMethod: There are different softness filaments and the softest is really soft
RockPusher scratches a new mark on his "Derail Chillpoint" tally
TXC2: so the NASA bed, but a couch
Lord_Hosk: Thats like a nasa space launch couch
LordZarano: I swear I've seen the thumbnail for that youtube video. "I printed a couch because apparently that's a thing you can do now"
Akaiatana: Paul "Liquid Foot" Saunders
Lord_Hosk high fives TXC2
TXC2 high fives Lord_Hosk
Laserbeaks_Fury: The Shape of Ottoman
TXC2: Checkpoint, now with actual journalistic integrity.
kingandcommoner: Forbes calling out Graham in particular would be very funny
SocraticMethod: People have been low-key conspiratorial about Highguard, with a dash of yellow peril
TXC2: it IS a billion dollar industry now
Akaiatana: We have to start Pondering our Forbes
accountmadeforants:
So, for the couch made of stress ball material. Here's the Pratone Couch: https://i.imgur.com/7UIGnBG.jpeg It's called a couch despite looking like that (and only seating one) so it must be a couch, and it can be yours for the low, low price of twenty-five thousand dollars.
TXC2:
Akaiatana
INCSlayer: @accountmadeforants that looks horribly uncomfortable
SocraticMethod: Isn't Forbes video game closer to blogging platform or is Tassi actually working for them now?
accountmadeforants: @INCSlayer It's apparently quite comfortable. But definitely more than a bit ridiculous.
RockPusher: I deeply appreciate Graham's journalistic integrity and lament that a YT comedy news show has more integrity than many if not most outlets nowadays…
TXC2: RockPusher right?
Laserbeaks_Fury: "King of Meat" sounds like one of the shows from UHF
BlueChloroplast: Movies are going to streaming so fast now
Decaped: Not watching enough terrible reality streamers and TV show these things are advertised on
RockPusher: TXC2 though there is possibly a false appeal to better times - never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel and all that
TheMerricat: Critical Mass
Vinewood_OG: Slop threshold
TheMerricat: How many single player games are still playable today two decades after their release date. How many multiplayer live service games?
BlueChloroplast: On the other hand, some private servers for multiplayer games have lasted a while
RockPusher: We have reasonable tooling now for over-the-network couch co-op as an external bolt-on
LordZarano: GLURP has a single player mode, there's speedruns of it
Decaped: Honestly, there are too many early 2000s MMOs that are still playable now. Some of them even survived being turned off and shut down.
Lord_Hosk: Sony Online Entertainment kept trying to redesign Star Wars Galaxies and each time killed the playerbase from 400,000 to 200,000 to 50,000. Because they were expecting a million players.
kingandcommoner: Sonic's 5th 30th anniversary
Vinewood_OG: @Lord_Hosk o7
SocraticMethod: @TheMerricat 2006 is windows XP era, surprising amount of games from then can't run in modern OS
Izandai: Beej I need a point of clarification from you. At the top of this piece, did you say "thirty fifth" or did you say "thirtiethith"?
CaptainSpam: It'll always be Sonic's 30th anniversary in our hearts.
TheMerricat:
@SocraticMethod They can if you emulate them.
Invitare: Godzilla always wins
CaptainSpam: But Godzilla is ponderous and slow.
TXC2: SocraticMethod XP was still based on DoS, 7 onwards wasn't, that was the big threshold for backwards compatabilty
Invitare: there was a Sonic x DC a while ago wasn't there? Shadow met Batman
RockPusher:
Sonic truly is a broad church
INCSlayer: Sonic X Godzilla is that on AO3?
TXC2: what isn't?
TheAinMAP:
SocraticMethod: @TheMerricat Which is a surprisingly difficult problem! Especially GPU API compatibility
RockPusher: TXC2 XP was the first NT kernel consumer Windows
SocraticMethod: SA1 voice acting is, uh, acquired taste.
TXC2: RockPusher I thought it still had DoS stuff in the background?
RockPusher: TXC2 not in the way everything up to ME did
BlueChloroplast:
kingandcommoner: Uh, not on air maybe
TXC2: RockPusher oh indeed, but in a backwards compatible way, is what I was thinking
doubleo21: I remember the dub for Ouran Host Club translated it as pitcher/catcher
JKBalch: Ah, so that is how it's pronounced...
CaptainSpam: What I'm getting from all this is Japan is really really big on labeling.
TXC2:
ah yes Uke, the one who receives
SocraticMethod: Specific to Japanese fandom, though. Western famdoms don't really do the x/y dynamics codification
Izandai: @doubleo21 Yeah, that's an older euphemism.
accountmadeforants: The order thing was a thing when it was slashfic, as well. Like Kirk/Spock or Spock/Kirk
accountmadeforants: @SocraticMethod Eh, I've definitely seen it. But I agree it's not as common. Usually it's just alphabetical order
Izandai: The alternative ordering of that portmanteau doesn't work as well.
BlueChloroplast: Well Kock might get blocked
kingandcommoner: Yeah the hybrid names are a lot more common with western characters
INCSlayer: Godzonic
Izandai: @BlueChloroplast Sometimes the best way to tell a joke is to let people work out the punchline for themselves.
JessieImproved: The world of ships is exhausting for an aro
CaptainSpam: Iori?
TXC2: TheMerricat incredible
Juliamon: A lot of Western shipping also avoids using names at all for pairs
JKBalch: Iari?
BlueChloroplast: There are also thematic names like "Nuts and Dolts" in rwby
RockPusher: TXC2 I think the bigger compatibility factors were when the 16bit compatibility subsystems got removed which I don't know if was on a clean OS major version break
CaptainSpam: I like "Iori" better, solely due to it being much harder to pronounce.
TXC2: RockPusher fair point
SocraticMethod: @accountmadeforants Yeah, it's usually those who interact heavily with the fujo/yume side. But it's nowhere near as hard-written rule that it would cause replies demanding correction
doubleo21: My favorite combo name was from the Colber Report, for William H. Macy and Felicity Huffman: Filliam H. Muffman. It made Colbert break.
nymistrya: @BlueChloroplast The RWBY ship name chart is honestly a cursed object that will cause 2d6 psychic damage.
Izandai: Or when both ways of doing the ship name result in something obscene. Looking at you, Katniss/Peeta.
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Izandai: (they did figure out the thematic name "Toast" for that though)
Akaiatana: There's an AI in my name I'm living, I swear
RockPusher: Beej Certified* Human™
INCSlayer: yea is beej human
veelofar: we love that even determining if something is ai is being done by ai
Juliamon: A take: "Not AI" is different from "HUman"
TXC2: Juliamon exactly, could a dog past these tests?
SocraticMethod: @TXC2 Could David Cage?
TXC2:
SocraticMethod
accountmadeforants: They'd use computer analysis during grading when I was in university, but that was just to check for plagiarism.
Izandai: @TheMerricat This is a powerful document.
Akaiatana: You can have words with them. Via test
Laserbeaks_Fury: "This was written by a 24 year old bike delivery driver from Liverpool."
TXC2: "grade each others papers"
nymistrya: @TheMerricat Why do I keep opening it I only have 5 hit points I cant kee
Laserbeaks_Fury: Game recognizes game
TheMerricat:
@nymistrya
Akaiatana: Orobouros
accountmadeforants:
@TheMerricat Lmao, that's beautiful. Though it reminds me more of the usual MTG card nickname episodes than madness
RockPusher: adversarial in that they have opposed goals - "detect if this is fake" vs "generate something that can pass as real"
Laserbeaks_Fury: How long till CAPTCHA is run by AI?
RockPusher: in theory that should arms-race them to a local maxima optimisation
BlueChloroplast:
@themerricat @nymistrya I apprecate the commitment to the bit, but it is clearly impenentrable 
SocraticMethod: @accountmadeforants That's what it really is. After then main names were codified it became pun/reference workshopping exercise.
Laserbeaks_Fury: I guess they can't sell it so they ar giving it away for free
Creideiki_SE: @accountmadeforants I had to use one of those for my thesis. I also had to include my Java code in the submission. For some reason, "public static final void" has a really high plagiarism score.
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Laserbeaks_Fury: They *really* can not conceive of people not wanting to use AI
TheMerricat:
@Creideiki_SE
RockPusher: I would believe that the YT backend is in fact John Carpenter's The Thing
TXC2: "we'll put them in to it, even thought they said no" instant lawsuit right there
Vinewood_OG: Request permission to depart the Wayland-Yutani timeline.
LordZarano: AI loves to make up statistics based on nothing. It learned it from us
Vinewood_OG: *Weyland
GasCityGaming: I mean....
TheMerricat:
@Vinewood_OG Don't do that, the ones on either side of us are Jugde Dredd and Night City.
TheMerricat:
Judge even
Vinewood_OG: @TheMerricat I'll take my chances.
Laserbeaks_Fury: In fact, you don't even have to make anything anymore
TXC2:
has LRR been getting emails about "gen-AI" thumbnails? 'cause some creators have, it's wild
RockPusher: Paul's joke sounds depressingly plausible
Izandai: That outtake was glorious.
Vinewood_OG: "FUCK" was perfect
SocraticMethod:
Archorman style
SocraticMethod: Anchorman*
Akaiatana: "Internetent Fasting"
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RebelliousUno:
TXC2: hello Raiders
LilyOfTheVeil666: Hello raiders!
Laserbeaks_Fury: I don't think I've seen a traditional late night monologue since Craig Ferguson left that air
Izandai: The Dropout thing?
TXC2: the SNL weekend update
TXC2: ?
RockPusher: it sounds like Weekend Update to me
Peter_Chordash: It reminded me of This Hour has 22 Minutes
Vinewood_OG: Do it!!!
RockPusher: Laserbeaks_Fury *slaps teleprompter*
Laserbeaks_Fury: Regiggling
Vinewood_OG: @Laserbeaks_Fury Assmode!
TheMerricat:
Beej, Heather wants this, give up, it's happening.
BlueChloroplast: The galas are lots of fun
RockPusher:
The gala stuff hints that I think a bunch of these athletes might be huge nerds
TXC2: speaking of the Olympics, a new Gvlog video on the mascots dropped today
mtvcdm: A lot of these skaters go on to exhibition shows after the Olympics, this feeds into that
TheMerricat:
@TXC2 whelp, my watch queue just increased again.
Bruceski: I remember one I saw as a kid where I believe Bryan Boytano skated to Bravehart and charged across the rink with a claymore.
TheMerricat:
@Bruceski but it was a claymore mine.
mtvcdm: What's the silly luge
BlueChloroplast: The opening of the USA team gala program was apparently from stars on ice
lamina5432: ski jumping is apparently terrifying
Decaped: Silly ski jump actually going farther due to increased costume drag
Morrigan9: selfie jump
TXC2:
mtvcdm the Skeleton 
BlueChloroplast:
@decaped
TXC2:
no, wait the 2 man luge, damn
EvilBadman: Amber Glenn did a cantilever which takes an absurd amount of strength, and people kept calling it a JOJO ref
RockPusher: anything on ice skates inherently has a very sharp blade injury potential
Decaped: Things people can do when there's affordable healthcare
EvilBadman:
@TXC2 yeah but stacked instead of front to back
mtvcdm: Absolutely that would be Red Bull's jam
EvilBadman: soadbox luge
EvilBadman: soapbox*
RockPusher: Doggo bobsled, but would it get S-tier?
TXC2: RockPusher if it's the German team, and it looks like Lumpi, yes
RockPusher: butts n toobs n butts n toobs
Vinewood_OG: Human Serpentpede
RockPusher: now I want to see a marble run with a zorb on the bobsled course
EvilBadman: let the snowboarders on the luge track
Juliamon: All*
Vinewood_OG: Had to render them all
Juliamon: *excludes some formes
Bruceski: I suspet Pokemon already have "marketing-cleared color palettes" for a logo like that
James_the_Dabbler: As cool as it is, I do worry it’s AI
TXC2: gotta rend them all
LordZarano: Cut and paste a layer in Illustrator
Juliamon: They absolutely understood the assignment with Voltorb
nyoomgoom: devastated (/j) that the bagon/shelgon/salamence logos use horrible booger green for the logo color
BlueChloroplast: Pacharisu, Emolga, plusle and minun
TheMerricat:
My brain is still distracted and for a split second it read render as 'render the fat' not 'draw CG'
Juliamon: Trubbish is explicitly Pikachu-coded
ArtDecoSunburn: Makes sense. As someone who knows nothing about Pokemon, I know there's a yellow guy and there's a fish.
CaptainSpam: Absolute literal trash Pokemon.
BlueChloroplast: Trubbish is cute, garbador isn't
TXC2: TheMerricat the poke-verse continues to get more horrifing the deeper we go
TheMerricat:
@ArtDecoSunburn That's the Simpsons.
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheMerricat D'oh!
Vinewood_OG: Render me pictures of Spiderman!
Izandai:
Vinewood_OG: Art. A series of lies.
BlueChloroplast: And before photoshop we painted out the wires!
ArtDecoSunburn: But there is a Pokemon that's a carp or a bass, right? The only one I know other than the yellow guy parodied by Homestar Runner.
TXC2: ArtDecoSunburn magikarp yes
BlueChloroplast: @artdecosunburn basculin
Juliamon: There are *many* fish Pokemon
TheMerricat: But Magikarp is almost certainly the one you are thinking off. it's the meme one.
Akaiatana: It's Mako posioning, HEATHER
Juliamon: including Finneon and Lumineon, which are not at all related to Eevee
TXC2: what if cloud's hair is a wig in universe?
INCSlayer: @TXC2 that would help explain why the wig he gets during the crossdressing section fits so well
ArtDecoSunburn: @TXC2 That must be it. Amazing how a few years difference means you can completely miss a pop culture phenomenon. Like I used to tell my undergrads, I wish I better understood your magical dog fighting game with red and white balls.
TheMerricat: Same Beej.
Bruceski: Sometimes someone will mock me for still gaming at 1080p and my go-to reply is "with these eyes?"
Vinewood_OG:
Who's Ray Tracing? 
TXC2:
my PC right now on 1600 X 900
TheMerricat:
My main screen is about two feet from my face, even if I had better eyesight, I don't want to see the oil inside the pores of my characters.
Bruceski: That's his angry state
CaptainSpam: Scarfy is perfectly happy! ...if Kirby doesn't try to eat him.
Bruceski: He's a cute little blorbo who, unlike most other Kirby enemies, goes aggro if you try to eat him.
Izandai: Scarfy's thing is that it looks cute and happy, and if you try to inhale it it turns into that monstrosity and tries to kill you.
Vinewood_OG: That's normal at a certain age.
RockPusher: who hasn't wished their mushroom cap had higher durability
Juliamon: I love how Scarfy implies other enemies are totally chill with Kirby inhaling them
KenKopin: Well yeah, but not if I have to give up regrowth speed.
Izandai: Weakened, not weekend.
RockPusher: depends on the elasticity of the wall
Bruceski: Air Riders is a game about shoving every slider to 100 or 0. It doesn't really have middle ground.
couchboyj: Maybe they mean bouncing off a side wall?
SocraticMethod: @couchboyj Most likely
TXC2: right chat I'm off
TheMerricat: Night @TXC2 !
TXC2: Goodnight everybody, and thanks for streaming Heather, Paul and Beej.
KenKopin: Removed Herobrine
RockPusher: 'night TXC2
Gadora: Oh, there was an even better one in that patch note. When a dwarf doesn't get a happy thought by yelling at someone in charge, they prioritize yelling at someone in charge.
DoodlestheGreat: Lizard Blizard Wizard
Akaiatana: I have played it, I did accessibility consulting on the original D2R, it has a lot of QoL upgrades that D2 modders have done for a long time, but now with far more polish.
MajorFrostbyte: Beej Fan Fic
Gadora: "A dwarf who is stressed but does not gain a good thought from shouting at someone in charge seems to prioritize shouting at someone in charge over any other activities."
RockPusher: a firm *but chaste* buttocks
Vinewood_OG: Schrödinger's buttocks
DoodlestheGreat: That would be very warlock.
DoodlestheGreat: Yeah, THAT doesn't sound at all ominous for XBox.
Vinewood_OG:
CaptainSpam: Well, the mail room at Microsoft, long before there was an XBox division...
TheMerricat: Wasn't there an article out that an 'ex-insider' was claiming that Microsoft is planning on sunsetting Microsoft Games/Xbox?
CaptainSpam: "Hi, I'm Roger XBox, president of XBox. Nice to meet you."
SocraticMethod: @TheMerricat Seamus Blackley hasn't been xbox insider for more than 2 decades
LordZarano: Aren't you CEO of buttplugio?
TheMerricat:
@SocraticMethod Ah, so another one of those sour grapes folk.
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EvilBadman: The whole thing is very mess
SocraticMethod: @TheMerricat Could be that he still have contacts, could be "What does Ja Rule thinks about it", could be sour grapes. The information value of that interview was pretty null
Lord_Hosk: X.Buttplug.box Just saying... Beej knows games... and how to run a company that gives people joy...
EvilBadman: Bond alledgedly made a lot of internal people upset with the "This is an Xbox" campaign
RockPusher: Lord_Hosk a revolution in erotically-enhanced home entertainment!
kingandcommoner: Sure, that line again
LordZarano: Embrace extend extinguish of their own internal department
BusTed: it's like we're in cH
EvilBadman: The AI is calling
TheAinMAP:
Vinewood_OG: A LRRmergency!!!
Ms_LadyMix: I talked to a nurse the other day who was anti-AI for everything BUT generative art because he uses it for D&D art but thinks it's too dangerous everywhere else. Which was a FUN new perspective to hate lol
Juliamon: Ms_LadyMix oh nooooo
Ms_LadyMix: @Juliamon A WILD conversation as he made sure I had enough iron in my blood.
Akaiatana: When he was out of apple he started eating grapes
BusTed:
@Ms_LadyMix 
7gorobei: one podcast i watched said that there was some other executive who would be more inline to take over xbox if they were looking to close down the division
Vinewood_OG: -----
Ms_LadyMix: This whole thing smells like glass cliff to me IMO, even though I don't love her (because of the AI stuff).
Akaiatana: I am a wordy m-dasher user
CaptainSpam: Don't be dissing punctuation.
EbDorian: alt 0151
Bruceski: but I just type -- and sometimes it's auto-replaced
Vinewood_OG: Ellipsis gang, show up... eventually.
EvilBadman: they learned from stealing from us, dad
SocraticMethod: Unless they are using Word, where it's sometimes automatic
mtvcdm: We forced this computer to watch 1,000 hours of m-dashes
RockPusher: as someone who *can* easily type — I have been dissuaded from doing so for obvious reasons
BusTed: "So convenient!"
Vinewood_OG:
MajorFrostbyte: @Vinewood_OG I too love not to ramble by using a good ....
Bruceski: People are so quick to vaguepost about "the thing"
Juliamon: I've always used -- because I didn't have a numpad for awhile and lost all my memorized alt-codes
Cptasparagus: if you type in "Adam Savidan" into google, its like age, height, a few other things, and controversy is 7th lol
RockPusher: I too enjoy a real ellipsis…
Ms_LadyMix: I go with "Name problematic"
Lord_Hosk: a woman in a leadership position of anything? the top google search finishes will be "husband" and "controversy"
Akaiatana: @Cptasparagus 9th is Beej's Shadowrun Hong Kong character
CaptainSpam: "Bartleby Controversy"
Izandai: ????????????????????????
INCSlayer: goes to google and types "is beej a human or an anime"
Gadora: "Beej Deery rubber chicken controversy"
gualdhar: Brendan Deery controversy: somehow believes Sonic is 30 years old
EvilBadman: "Did you mean BIG controversy?
RockPusher: What are Canada's libel laws like?
Vinewood_OG: Ian Horner Controversy does sound like an interesting all thermin music project.
RockPusher:
lawsuit money to diversify income 
Lord_Hosk: Thats really going to create a whole lot of second accounts
LordZarano: Sentence can end at "Please stop Googling." Use better search engines
TheMerricat: Chat is Cameron still alive... did he get his sleep?
BusTed: yes and
Akaiatana: "When's the last time you saw a Cameron?" "About 5 minutes."
Vinewood_OG: So based
datadece: <message deleted>can you please invade TheTechnixian's twitch it will make him happy :) ?
Vinewood_OG: Clotheslaboration
BusTed:
BusTed: Bring back Gengar's Haunted Mansion
SocraticMethod: The "X" is silent. Dunno why, people just like it
Ms_LadyMix: 215 for a polyester hoodie is so upsetting
itsaysTRUENO: affordable drip
Ms_LadyMix: Melts in the wash
ThanhtTheBoss: That's the sort of pricing that would make me go to local cons and see what people had made.
Juliamon: The hats are pretty rad, and hats tend to be better quality than other merch
OldManJohnsonMB: woot
Juliamon: There's a *developing* story today
Ms_LadyMix: Oh
Ms_LadyMix: The Switch 1 version is fine?
Ms_LadyMix: Like it works perfectly lol
Ms_LadyMix: But sure!
EvilBadman: Jimbaltro is going to give you a big hug in person (will not be Ben Starr)
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Ms_LadyMix: I tried using mouse mode with animal crossing and it was mostly just annoying.
Vinewood_OG:
More anniversaries than Sonic. Thanks, Bethesda. 
EvilBadman: Kirby was 20, Zelda were 10
Ms_LadyMix: And Zelda was on the expanded NSO at least
Izandai:
Vinewood_OG: E. All of the above
itsaysTRUENO: show me SEGA!
Morrigan9: all of them?
mtvcdm: Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down
RubikDarkwill: Is it the Discord post? I think that was the CTO though
Vinewood_OG: @mtvcdm A Derek Powers quote? In 2026?
Akaiatana: Is it, Beej, CEO?
mtvcdm: !discord
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SocraticMethod: @RubikDarkwill Yeah, CTO and co-owner
Izandai: Oh, I thought that line sounded familiar.
EvilBadman: And here I thought paul was gonna do "Ubisoft CEO fights nepotism accusations after appointing son to lead new Assassin's Creed studio – by insisting "Ubisoft was created as a family company""
mtvcdm: (and yes, your Discord mod crew has been aware of this entire matter)
Vinewood_OG: Smash cut to this same conversation about Twitch next month.
itsaysTRUENO: the one thing we didn't want to happen
Vinewood_OG:
"We'll call it STEALING." 
itsaysTRUENO: there was a time when photo ID was considered an invasion of privacy lol
Strebenherz: TOO LITTLE TOO LATE DISCORD
ThanhtTheBoss:
So what are they going to do? 
Vinewood_OG: -F
INCSlayer: EFF OFF DISCORD
Strebenherz: "We won't lose your data!" YOU ALREADY HAVE
Laserbeaks_Fury: I dunno, that nailed "discord" fairly accurately
INCSlayer: "we are sorry you dont understand how good this is"
GasCityGaming: they're telling us we don't understand
DoodlestheGreat: "We're just going to require it to do what 90% of our customers do on our system."
Vinewood_OG: "We're sorry you feel this way."
Juliamon: Persona
Juliamon: owned by Thiel
Vinewood_OG: SATAN
EvilBadman: PErsona
INCSlayer: Yea its Persona
Izandai: I think y'all're being needlessly cynical about this statement.
Juliamon: It's not Palantir but it's still Thiel
gualdhar: I thought Discord was distancing itself from Persona now
Izandai: That's one of the things in the statement.
gualdhar: ah right
itsaysTRUENO:
ThanhtTheBoss: Oh not at all creepy, they can suss out if you're an adult by the way you use Discord?
Juliamon: The unspoken second half of the sentence "we'll be using AI for the rest of you"
TheMerricat: They are trying to claim that for 90% of the userbase this will never impact them because they don't 'trigger' the need for an age verification.
mineiga555: <message deleted>ARE YOU MOSSBRICKA
itsaysTRUENO: if they cant moderate their own platform properly, maybe it shouldnt exist lol
Juliamon: Ease up on caps please
kingandcommoner: Discord is the closest thing to a third space most of these teens have
mineiga555: <message deleted>NO
Vinewood_OG: @gualdhar Discord distancing themselves yes, but Twitch may be headed that way, allegedly. First Roblox, now this. Act accordingly.
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Juliamon: Persona incidentally is what Twitch *currently* uses, btw
TheMerricat: The system Discord is _already_ using to try to guess your age is called Osprey. And they've 'opensourced' it out for other companies to use. and yes it's AI based.
Strebenherz: puritanical nutjobs
Vinewood_OG:
@Juliamon 
Laserbeaks_Fury: "Oh this is a Transgender space? That's inherently a sexual subject and now you have to identify yourself."
TheMerricat: At the end of the day chat, it's on _US_ to push the governments to not be puritanical fascists, don't expect companies to stick their neck out for you.
Izandai: ^
Vinewood_OG: @TheMerricat This is the way.
RockPusher: any form of centralised communication service will ultimately run into intractable regulatory and moderation issues
itsaysTRUENO: Discord has always been the cops
MajorFrostbyte: @Laserbeaks_Fury And then, "oh, this is a transgender friendly space? now we need you to identify yourself."
Izandai: I find it eternally frustrating how much these conversations focus on being angry at companies for doing things they are legislatively obligated to do.
FauksStarling: Discord is already doing parts of this. A server I'm a part of has an 18+ channel for memes and I could not even access that channel on a trip to BC from the US without age verification.
MajorFrostbyte: slippery slopes
Invitare: I'm in the UK and we had all that CSA stuff recently. The thing is it just doesn't actually work. It's trivially easy to bypass
Vinewood_OG: Regulation is good. Until the regime deems you unacceptable.
Strebenherz:
@Vinewood_OG 
Invitare: ISPs should be the ones responsible for this, not private websites. Parental Controls are more effective
mtvcdm: At a certain level it's less yelling at the company and more yelling at the government that company has to keep off their back
Izandai: That's what it should be, yes.
ItsaMeTanio: @Invitare Didn't a bunch of people figure out they could use Death Stranding's photo mode to bypass Discord's face scan age verification?
Lord_Hosk: Im only in the LRR discord for the Bartleby feet pics. I haven't gotten any yet... but im hanging around because one day... one day
TheMerricat: @mtvcdm And at a lower level it's yelling at the person you can yell at because you assume the person who can actually make the changes you need is out of ear shot. Same as ripping a new on into the poor clerk at the store because you are pissed at something in the store.
RockPusher: Technical solutions to social issues do not work. Solving the systemic drivers of the social issue is the only way of actually *fixing* it rather than simply distracting or hiding it.
Thefluffiestguineapig: I just got here from taking my cats to get vaccinations, what is going on?
Vinewood_OG: o7 geocities
TheMerricat: @ItsaMeTanio There have been plenty of ways to trick current day face scanning with 'fake' faces of one form or another.
Juliamon: Discussing online protection laws
TheMerricat: @Thefluffiestguineapig Discord did a PR piece on why you shouldn't be mad at them for the age verification deal.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Juliamon Ah, ok.
itsaysTRUENO: private companies like Discord and twitter exist to carry out the gov't's will. As a private company, its not legally censorship.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also I will say this whole thing where people trying to "make spaces safer" as we have diseases reintroduced or have massively increased infection rates because of "vaccine freedom" initiatives is so weird do me
mtvcdm: !bluesky
James_the_Dabbler: It’s easy to say “It’s on the adults to stop their children from accessing inappropriate content for them” but what do you do when you end up with a parent restricting access to queer literature, or information on mental health, or other things? But at the same time, it shouldn’t solely be the responsibility of a corporation, or a government, or even an individual, to censor material for young people either.
TheMerricat: More importantly Beej, is there going to _be_ another place where you can have that community that isn't going to be subject to the same issues next month?
Juliamon: TheMerricat Discord pushed back the date too
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TheMerricat Online? No, we had this discussion in Tiltychat last week
Juliamon: so we have more time before we can consider if anything else is even usable
mtvcdm: Yeah, like... this is the sort of thing *every* platform is gonna have to put up with, there's no real running from it unless you want to go back to carrier pigeons
Aceviru: Ah, parents
TheMerricat:
So Beej was banned?
Thefluffiestguineapig: So Beej is already Banned?
itsaysTRUENO: the LRR discord is a tightly run ship
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TheMerricat Drift compatible!
Juliamon: That's why we don't have a dedicated meme channel
RockPusher:
Beej cannot be experienced on the LRR discord
mtvcdm: If anything wonky ever gets forced on us, we'll letcha know
Thefluffiestguineapig: Genuinely not a joke: the mods work SO HARD over there, do not make them work harder
gualdhar: need an official mIRC server
Aceviru:
We move to YouTube comments
JessieImproved: I'm a user of Discord, on everyone else's server. Leaving Discord is just..not really in my hands
itsaysTRUENO: whats the password for the mumble server
r10pez10: see you on IRC
RockPusher: at least moving jurisdiction would be a viable thing to do in that case
SocraticMethod: It's 2000, I log in to Teamspeak to chat with my friends. It's 2010, I log in to Teamspeak to chat with my friends. It's 2026, I log in to Teamspeak to chat with my friends.
Anubis169:
IRC ftw
Thefluffiestguineapig: The hell even is IRC? I got on Discord because of y'all so likely I will take the advice of this community on the safe place to go
TheMerricat:
@SocraticMethod
Juliamon: Thefluffiestguineapig It's the backbone of Twitch chat. Literally.
TheMerricat: XFire
mtvcdm: The places WE run are here:
mtvcdm: !contact
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RockPusher: (as in technically possible, though maybe not effective)
SocraticMethod: @Thefluffiestguineapig Internet Relay Chat, it's like Analogue ICQ
Anubis169:
Thefluffiestguineapig: Internet Relay Chat, basically multiplayer notepad invented in 1988 
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Juliamon Ah, the things I missed due to being a responsible pet owner I'm sure were in earlier conversation
Thefluffiestguineapig: OH RIGHT
Juliamon: FRLG: Buy Them Again!
Thefluffiestguineapig: I saw this as part of the Nintendo Pokemon thing during Ben's stream earlier
Anubis169: it's.. free, lightweight, will run on any platform, and most importantly, has ZERO capability for mandatory ads
Thefluffiestguineapig: It's SUCH a slap in the face
itsaysTRUENO: nintendo moment
Juliamon: Thefluffiestguineapig no, this is a thing that's been known for a decade now
ItsaMeTanio: Language DLC
TheMerricat: @Thefluffiestguineapig If that was a serious question, IRC is Internet Relay Chat, an old OLD school text based chat protocol that is partially decentralized and partially centralized.
SocraticMethod: @Anubis169 The biggest problem with IRC is the lack of chat history. Or feature, depending on who is asked
Vinewood_OG: Please remember us, not as we are, but as we were... the Bacon, Sausage, Egg, and Cheese Croissan'wich. Hubris incarnate.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TheMerricat I know what that is, it's more I didn't know if it also meant something else
ewhac: Keeping an IRC server secure is a full-time job.
RatherLargeToad: there’d be issues with save states and rewinding if they put it on NSO and wanted to allow linking to Pokemon Home
TheMerricat: @SocraticMethod There are plenty of bots out there with chat history these days, at least for the channels they are in.
ProcyonFlynn: Heck, there are people that would complain if it was free, cause what are they paying for the service?
Thefluffiestguineapig: The big thing for me is $40 US for each of them
Thefluffiestguineapig: And digital download only
RockPusher: Thefluffiestguineapig the tech industry does love overloading terms and acronyms/initialisms
Anubis169: Content, content, CONTENT, 'content'...
Thefluffiestguineapig: @RockPusher Hence why I asked, especially since a lot of acronyms and initialisms are being deliberately reused to confuse people
INCSlayer: its 20 each
Thefluffiestguineapig: Ah, well that was a confusion on my part
ewhac: "Has our content made you content?"
DragaFireHawk: I remember paying $40 for my FireRed back in 2006
Trahas: Add it to NSO, and let people buy it stand alone boom win win
Juliamon: Also it's now more censored
Thefluffiestguineapig: I wanted to share it with a friend
TheMerricat:
Damn it chat, IRC talk reminded me of old chat programs and now I'm jonesing to hear the old ICQ message squeak.
itsaysTRUENO: somewhere, George Lucas perked up at the mention of "digital only"
malfunct: I do wish we didn't have to keep paying for games over and over to play them on modern platforms
INCSlayer: Tamlock slaps TheMerricat with a wet Trout
Trahas: Yes
Thefluffiestguineapig: For me the big thing with digital download is being unable to share it with friends/split the cost to share in a friend group
Trahas: Stadium 1 and 2 are
INCSlayer:
was that IRC enough for you @TheMerricat ?
RatherLargeToad: if it goes on NSO then it can’t link to Home, so there’s a trade off
TheMerricat:
@INCSlayer
Trahas: @RatherLargeToad that is what i have heard as well, has it been confirmed that the stand alone will connect to Home?
malfunct: if this has been covered I apologize, but is this pokemon remake compatible with the original switch or does it require switch 2?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Trahas During the Pokemon thing we watched during Ben's stream yes
Trahas: @Thefluffiestguineapig thank you, have been busy today so didn't get to see the direct
RatherLargeToad: @trahas yes. you can transfer to home from FR/LG. I don’t think it works the other way, though
Juliamon: GBC yeah
ItsaMeTanio: @malfunct it's compatible with both
malfunct: thank you @ItsaMeTanio
Juliamon: You can't name your rival Dickbutt anymore
Vinewood_OG: Teabagamon
Aceviru: Taking away the fun
RatherLargeToad: Game says: No
MajorFrostbyte: But has anyone tried Scunthorpe
Vinewood_OG: The 'Scunthorpe' dilemma
Juliamon: Pokemon HAS its own Scunthorpe in Cofagrigus
ProcyonFlynn: TemporallyAwry got nuked like everywhere. Bummer what that does.
RockPusher:
ItsaMeTanio: I think the issue around censoring names in single player games has to do with livestreaming
Lord_Hosk: Pen Island is a very nice vacation destination
jacqui_lantern234:
@Lord_Hosk do you think their national anthem is Pen Pineapple Apple Pen? 
niccus: courser mccoarseface
jacqui_lantern234:
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jacqui_lantern234:
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grax_strife: The fact you can't use the word knight, in Fromsoftware games
jacqui_lantern234:
aww arrived at the end 
Vinewood_OG: Well, I'm out!
Vinewood_OG:
SocraticMethod: @grax_strife Poor Nasser, he didn't deserve any of it
Aceviru: But I don't want to spoil the episode!
mtvcdm: !patreon
Vinewood_OG: Never disrespect the editor.
aerohydra: we're the enablers
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stnrwzrd: no one cares about that vancouver tho
stnrwzrd: it's north portland
FauksStarling: Us across the river from that Vancouver also refuse to acknowledge that one.
TheAinMAP:
So, starting with another correction next week? 
EvilBadman: People who live in Vancouver WA go to portland for no sales tax
mtvcdm: !store
Vinewood_OG: The "wrong Vancouver"
malfunct: I live inbetween the two Vancouvers and have to ask folks which one they mean all the time as people go to both.
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EvilBadman: @malfunct also this for seattle folk
TheAinMAP:
Vinewood_OG: Something.
EvilBadman: Bits and Cats when
LordZarano: Bits & Bops & Cats & Cups
Thefluffiestguineapig: @EvilBadman Cue scatting
mtvcdm: If you get a code for something literally called Weird Dumb Shooty Game it'd probably actually be fun
GasCityGaming: ay! I'm bad at these but i love them!
RockPusher: Get out there and kill Matt Wiggins
Thefluffiestguineapig: I love watching these
GasCityGaming: it's dead space at home
Thefluffiestguineapig: @RockPusher The "how many times can Matt get killed first" betting should commence
RatherLargeToad: they’re debating giving up, so too long it sound like
EbDorian: the game is about time travel... so presumably a long time?
EvilBadman:
Dawn is usually 6am
tidehollowcat: ironically I cannot participate in Monday pubg on account of Monday pub trivia.
maywecomein: civil dawn!
Vinewood_OG: You can. Once.
INCSlayer: the trick is to stare at the sun and make it blink
tdapenguin: Astronomers and sailors have formal definitions for these things
LordZarano: Dawn is the time before sunrise when it's light iirc
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niccus: have you looked at the sun lately?
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