Tinker Tailor Solder Fry || Sega CD Troubleshooting

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 BraveOthello: Strange, it's not bus season yet ...
 UnknownFriday: Huh, I do wonder how my SegaCD is holding up. It's been years since I've tried to use the thing.
   LoadingReadyRun:  this is the rare non-Desert Bus related Sega CD!
 ArtDecoSunburn: It just occurred to me: Given this program's title, has Ian ever done any Le Carre-inspired projects on the show? Spy tech or something as an homage?
Xed_Regulus: There are Sega CDs *not* used my DB!?
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DideRobot: LRR: Time for Tinker Tailor Solder Fry! Tonight Ian is Troubleshooting a Sega CD  https://twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun (has image) | https://kind.social/@LoadingReadyRun/116377503487886927
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goatprince: it's ian mcTTSF!
 Molator: 
 UnknownFriday: Oooh, full sized Genesis.
 TomatoKigu: Whoho TTSF! 
goatprince: that's me
   LoadingReadyRun: @UnknownFriday is there a small Genesis?
 SnackPak_: 
goatprince: i'm headache rn so i'm not currently present
 ArdCollider: feel better, Matt
  Juliamon: ooh, an update
 UnknownFriday: @LoadingReadyRun There is! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Sega-Genesis-Mk2-6button.jpg
DrakoniteDev: oh, the capacitors need replaced?
 Ravynn: Ooooo fancy
goatprince: delicious nougat exoskeleton
  Juliamon: very nougat, yeah
 wedge_x: not much, noctua with you
 ArtDecoSunburn: @goatprince Exactly. It's like a fine confectionary.
DrakoniteDev: bluetape very good
 ArdCollider: @wedge_x and noctua thy spirit!
  Juliamon: this was a fun story to follow that one night
loufghyslaufey:  S E  G A 
DrakoniteDev: @loufghyslaufey 
 SnackPak_: arent computers fun? 
 ArtDecoSunburn: @SnackPak_ (Teary-eyed) "The greatest things ever."
 TheWriterAleph: oh gracious
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 TheWriterAleph: the devil's legos
 7gorobei: from drive shucking to cooler peeling, what's next?
 UnknownFriday: Next time on TTSF: Ian makes a crucible to smelt aluminum scraps.
 Molator: razor blade twist ties
 r10pez10: you mean the toaster oven?
goatprince: pegged you say?
 Dog_of_Myth: Seems very smooth
 TheWriterAleph: o7
 TheAinMAP: https://www.twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun/clip/TangibleSparklingArugulaAMPEnergyCherry-MaDmzfVYRag7mWfP
 ArtDecoSunburn: @UnknownFriday Twitch needs more smelting-centric streams.
 Phailhammer: @goatprince 
 DaxStrife: https://www.twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun/clip/FlaccidCrypticSharkMVGame-c_BORvSSb4l24S6K
goatprince: based,
 ArtDecoSunburn: @7gorobei Ian does all the gerunds here at TTSF.
 SnackPak_: AIUI, proton is wine with patches
DrakoniteDev: proton is a fork of wine
MWGNZ: and valve also sends their work upstream to wine too
 Phailhammer: And the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone~ 
 MalFnord: See, the *real* trick would be to get the Sega CD to run Elden Ring.
 DaxStrife: And *now* you add the 32X..
 TheWriterAleph: hail to the king, baby
goatprince: be gentle to the old beat, she's a restful one
goatprince: beast*
   LoadingReadyRun: https://wiki.retrotechcollection.com/Sega_CD_(Model_2)_Troubleshooting_Guide
 betweenmyself: true gamers insist on playing ‘Kris Kross: Make My Video’ on original hardware 
   LoadingReadyRun: https://wiki.retrotechcollection.com/Sega_CD_(Model_2)_Maintenance_Guide
DrakoniteDev: def no history with sega disc based hardware...
 ArtDecoSunburn: @TheWriterAleph Makes me think a hardware tinkering show with Bruce Campbell just sitting in the corner occasionally commenting would be fun.
   LoadingReadyRun: https://archive.org/details/mega-cd-2-service-manual-1-of-2-a-4/sega_cd_2_-_mega_cd_2_-_service_manual_number_002_august_1993/page/24/mode/2up
 r10pez10: misread as sega CD (model T)
goatprince: Ms Jen E. Sis, are you good?
 TheWriterAleph: @ArtDecoSunburn Bruce is the living soundboard that would elevate every show. he'd do it for a six-pack, probably
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 ArtDecoSunburn: @TheWriterAleph (Bruce burps) "I was in the neighborhood. What are we recording?"
 Phailhammer: I've previously discovered the hard way that, just because a plug fits doesn't mean it's the right one (RIP that one electric shaver). 
goatprince: it's full of gas and bugs and who knows if anything else
 SnackPak_: wow
 MalFnord: Phrasing!
DrakoniteDev: or that adapter is meant for the smaller genesis model
 ArtDecoSunburn: @Phailhammer We who are about to die salute your Wahl.
 Twilight_Spark: Genassi
 Driosenth: Ian, what is the model number on that two cable power brick, that is definitely an OEM cable of some kind.
 MacbethSeemsSus: Don't tell the church about second Genesis
 NotCainNorAbel: https://www.twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun/clip/BlazingSmilingCheeseStoneLightning-Acy0GZ-GgQUulK2a
 paulthemapguy: Yes there was the Peter Gabriel Genesis and the Phil Collins Genesis
 s0lesurviv0r: don't forget the CDX
 HbombAndFriends: There were actually 3 Genesis versions
 Twilight_Spark: The new, or neon Genesis if you will 
DrakoniteDev: there was at least 3 models, and some sub models with internal changes
 ArtDecoSunburn: @MacbethSeemsSus "Genesis II: The Legend of Curly's Gold."
 SnackPak_: good label
 Driosenth: And nothing on the back, super SUS
 Arclight_Dynamo: CE mark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking
 ArtDecoSunburn: No ULL certification?
 TheWriterAleph: 
DrakoniteDev: that is the China Export logo
 Kentosaurus: yay down the rabbit hole we go
 Molator: gweneth paltrows head
 omdorastrix: Most things in that range have a listed tolerance of 5-10%
 Twilight_Spark: Oh come now, this is surely more than a little for you 
 omdorastrix: And esp if the device has a step-down and operates internally on like 5V or something, then 9V vs 12V on in the input really doesn't matter
DrakoniteDev: transformer vs switching
goatprince: b e e f
 omdorastrix: electromagnetic intertial mas
letsbelgo: I want the beef in my mouth
 HbombAndFriends: More than meets the eye!
DrakoniteDev: dedicated switching regulator chip I'm sure
 Driosenth: Both the Sega CD and the Gen 1 Sega Genesis need 9V 1.2A, center negative for power.
 omdorastrix: half-wave rect?
MWGNZ: 
 omdorastrix: Give X volts +- 10%
DrakoniteDev: not UL listed 
DrakoniteDev: LoadingReadyRun the different genesis models had different power plugs. gen3 (the small one) is what this is for
 omdorastrix: Multiple tails rather than a breakout end?
goatprince: my partner is watching the stream and eating icecream. such is the life of a supervisor
 Driosenth: what is the voltage listed on the back of the BRICK, you are measuring no-load voltage, under load it may drop to 9V
 omdorastrix: 13V is likely correct for a 12V PSu, +/- 10% allows for 10.8V to 13.2V.  Also Drio is right load vs no-load
 Arclight_Dynamo: Volts push, but you pull amps.
 Shadwhawk: No, other way around; you want to keep the voltage the same.  The device won't draw more amps than it needs.
 Arclight_Dynamo: ^
DrakoniteDev: no, other way. voltage needs to be in range. amp needs equal or greater
 omdorastrix: Water pipe analogy: Voltage is Pressure and Amps is flow
 Driosenth: What Shadwhawk sayid
fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn: @Arclight_Dynamo you just made a lot of secondary school physics make sense
 SnackPak_: 
 Arclight_Dynamo: @fiinnnaaaaannnnnnnn Great! Want to explain it back to me? I just know the phrase as a shorthand. 
 omdorastrix: A device that wants 6 Amps on a 5AMP plug will TRY to pull 6AMPS heating up the 5AMP plug and (possibly) reducing it's life.
goatprince: michael says: 'it needs a CRT filter'
 Strebenherz: Do you have the link for that handy Paul?
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 betweenmyself: in case it hasn’t been pasted already, the three major models of Genesis released in the US: https://tinyurl.com/4wm8krmy
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 omdorastrix: I miss the "SAAAY-GAAA!"
 tdapenguin: ian (in front of us) and paul (on the camera) are the crew with us today
OHJOY90: tower of power
   LoadingReadyRun: I believe this is the youtube channel lots of really interesting stuff about old video game programming techniques https://www.youtube.com/@GameHut/videos
DrakoniteDev: look, the db start screen!
 SquareDotCube: man the CD really was made for the gen 2
goatprince: well. we're already doing better than before. it didn't want to turn on before.
 tdapenguin: @DrakoniteDev 
 omdorastrix: Is the disk drive the point of failure - that's typically it for retro, due to wear...
 HorusFive: Some kind of bussing simulator?
DrakoniteDev: @SquareDotCube IIRC the cd had two sized models as well
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goatprince: i can make paul break something in the office if you want
goatprince: or you could just play sonic 3D blast now
 iarethel0ser: Rest of the episode just Bus.
 CaptainSpam: Oh crap who doesn't have their craftalongs done yet?
 omdorastrix: *Start! That! Bus!*
 tdapenguin: i'll go log into my donor account
 TomatoKigu: Great episode everyone.
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 Molator: desert bus starts early this year
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 TheWriterAleph: BUS is COMING
 QuixoticScrivener: @iarethel0ser Desert Bus: Encore
 HorusFive: @iarethel0ser Madness- who could even play Desert Bus for such a long time?!? 
goatprince: the real task today might be to thoroughly dust the whole thing off
 DaxStrife: "If it ain't broke, let's fix that."
 cmdrzellgaudis: ah cool. desert bus started early
 HbombAndFriends: Tonight on TTSF: Ian builds a Rustproof Bee Shed. 
juzztshay: NICE!
goatprince: sorry for not giving you a giant understaking, ian   
 CaptainSpam: "650MB is an absurd amount of space.  ABSURD, I say!"
 SquareDotCube: it's OK if there was never an official physical copy in the first place! 
 margieargie: Awww, I was hoping we'd get some patented Ian Bus Driving for a bit there
 cmdrzellgaudis: what’s the first giveaway?
 Phailhammer: @goatprince So you should be. 
Synchroma: I remember when I first met a friend in primary school whose dad "burned cds" and I was like "why would anyone do that to a perfectly good cd?"
 Phailhammer: 
the_phantom_game_player: @cmdrzellgaudis Random dance party!
 cmdrzellgaudis: Random dance party!!!
 aquinas_0: the wiggle groove
 aquinas_0: on the playstation wasn't it
 QuixoticScrivener: another win for piracy!
 betweenmyself: @DrakoniteDev yes, one intended to sit below the Genesis Model 1 and the one Ian is working on intended to sit below and to the side of the Model 2
 MacbethSeemsSus: The best repairs: NFF
Wrexadecimal: Amazing.
DrakoniteDev: fun fact: a huge amount of what you hear about protection are myths
 tdapenguin: rdp, supply your own music
letsbelgo: Dont hold out on us
goatprince: job done !
   LoadingReadyRun: Here's that video about the Sonic blast intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IehwV2K60r8
the_phantom_game_player: At least you dont have to worry about copyrights
Synchroma: Why are there no 64K songs on the RDP playlist XD
goatprince: michael feels very silly and also doesn't want me to tell you that he feel silly
 tdapenguin: thanks, paul!
 CaptainSpam: So now for the remaining two hours of the stream, it's Desert Bus Really Really Express!
 Phailhammer: Isn't that they one that produced a blooper where Graham? accidentally yeeted the clock he was wearing?
 Thefluffiestguineapig: I arrived late, why are we trouble shooting the Sega CD? Just for fun or also DB insurance?
letsbelgo: time to shred
 TheAinMAP: 
 tdapenguin: @Thefluffiestguineapig the player wasn'tturning on.
 MacbethSeemsSus: SEGA. IN. SPAAAAAAAACE
 TomatoKigu: Track 1 is always data.
  Juliamon: Thefluffiestguineapig it belongs to Matt's partner and wasn't turning on
  Juliamon: We have already gotten it to turn on.
 Phailhammer: @goatprince 
goatprince: ian's just really good at turning electronics on.
 aquinas_0: ah! it was the saturn that had the out of bounds wiggle groove
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 aquinas_0: not the PS1
 SquareDotCube: or playing the data track on SOTN
  Juliamon: why is tonight the night we get all the raids??
Synchroma: sup raiders
 iris_of_ether: The Vampire Survivors Castlevania expansion does a solid nod to one of those hidden messages from Symphony of the Night 
MWGNZ: that cd seems unbalanced
  Juliamon: 90s-2k Japan really loved its novelty mini-CDs
the_phantom_game_player: Hi Wheeler
 omdorastrix: Seeing that close-up - I now understand the comments about cleaning
 Molator: this is how we break things to be fixed
 HorusFive: Just strait onto a router as I recall
 rosesmcgee: Pneumatic angle grinder, I think
 Driosenth: Question, I had a 52X CD-R burner like 15(?) years ago, did it have multiple write laser heads, could its laser head write multiple tracks at once, or did it just spin faster?
 kingandcommoner: The radio star is dead
goatprince: michael is pleased to see the machine operable at this time
loufghyslaufey: Somehow laserdisc gaming didn't take off....!?
 Thefluffiestguineapig: Till the fire nation attacked
 MacbethSeemsSus: The images! They move!
loufghyslaufey: So Sonic the 2nd Movie? Chat, Ian?
 MTigress: sega-cd has a 1x cd-rom drive, so 200rpm on the outer ring, 500rpm on the center areas
the_phantom_game_player: Since this year is the 20th Desert Bus, maybe you can go all out for it
 omdorastrix: @Driosenth probably just one R/W unit and spinn fast
DrakoniteDev: IIRC segacd had a cpu similar to the main genesis cpu, but it was hard to use both.
goatprince: ian, please. you dusted the top of it.
niccus: you did professional nothing
 HorusFive: Machine saw Ian coming and got scared
DrakoniteDev: @Driosenth just spin faster
goatprince: breaking up the boys 
 SquareDotCube: TBH most vintage devices probably should have their power supplies replaced these days as they're more prone to failure with time
 omdorastrix: Was there a version that actually fit the same footprint?  The Genesis dangling off on the side bothers me in a way I can't reasonably explain
 Strebenherz: Vintage game prices are wild
 MTigress: i wonder if anyone made a printable extension for the overhang with the 1st gen genesis. i know there's an official extension, but 3d printing is more available
DrakoniteDev: enjoy the dusting. it is crunch time and i need to get back to work
 SquareDotCube: user destructable parts
DrakoniteDev: @omdorastrix yep. two sizes of both genny and cd
loufghyslaufey: @HorusFive Or nevous; (gasps) "Tinker-Senpai!? Oh dear, oh dear, oh deers! Play cool! Play it cool! Playing cool..."  (while processing, booting up) 
 MTigress: @omdorastrix lol same thought. there was an extension that attached to the side so there was no overhang
loufghyslaufey: *nervous
 DarknessKingCoH: I think it was the crystals changing frequencies.
 omdorastrix: Welcome to the 21st century: "I need to charge my X"
goatprince: maybe the screwdriver's broken. time to pivot to working on that
 SquareDotCube: Meanwhile the JP/EU version is a side loader that goes under the MD
 SquareDotCube: which is a bit nicer
MWGNZ: next on ttsf: upgrading the screwdriver to usb-c
 HorusFive: Just start putting those stickers on everything.
loufghyslaufey: Big + Thic = Body Fit (shrugs?)
 omdorastrix: Do we think the numbers still work?
 SymphonySolstice: good evening all, what is the reason given for doing surgery on this beast?
 HorusFive: @omdorastrix I've seen that Crapshot
 SquareDotCube: Knuckles the Furniture Mover
 omdorastrix: So much empty space!
goatprince: michael says: 'it's actually surprisingly clean for how old it is'
loufghyslaufey:  S E G A  Count when, chat?
 MacbethSeemsSus: We will strategically move dust around to fill time.
 MTigress: carefully cover the cd laser before blowing out any dust!
 iris_of_ether: Now I'm just reminded that I should figure out if I can swap out the (probably) leaky capacitors on my husband's old TurboCD...
 omdorastrix: High-frequency vibration more likely
 Arclight_Dynamo: Seeing the inside of this thing really drives home how cheaply t was made.
goatprince: dang ian at this rate are you trying to gas up my husband
loufghyslaufey: Head//OFF: "Dusting directly on the forhead..."
 tdapenguin: @loufghyslaufey lol
 MTigress: production date grids, i miss those
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 iris_of_ether:   
 Phailhammer: Speaking of which, I should arrange another blood donation. It's been a while.
Shadowsoflife:  
loufghyslaufey: *Proceed to "break-dancing" tapes*
loufghyslaufey:     
 Driosenth: Casting marks are interesting. It's not economical to serialize part by changing marks each injection, but you can change the lot mark to reflect the batch or source pellets. Then you can get even more detail by the date stamps
 tdapenguin: neat
 Thefluffiestguineapig: How did we start talking about casting markets?
 Driosenth: Ian was pointing them out on the Sega CD's Shell
 tdapenguin: there was a production date grid on one of the plastic shells
 Thefluffiestguineapig: Are we now talking about prostate dracula?
 dagoth__ur_: i have one of those sega's 
 TheMerricat: This was made a year after I got out of high school.
 iris_of_ether: 
loufghyslaufey: "Bre-Brakes OVER."   
 ContingentCat: It's 32, 2 years younger than me oh god
 MTigress: hey Ian, apparently someone has designed a 3d printable bracket, but no one has yet modelled the actual base extension itself for eliminating the overhang on the model 1 genesis
 iris_of_ether: Yeah that could go *bad*
 Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah nope
 MTigress: might be a neat project to model downt he line
 iris_of_ether: Fancy
 Thefluffiestguineapig: Those aren't cheap
 HorusFive: What I'm hearing is- we need to go oscilloscope shopping
 iris_of_ether: oooh trace information
   LoadingReadyRun: https://archive.org/details/mega-cd-2-service-manual-1-of-2-a-4/sega_cd_2_-_mega_cd_2_-_service_manual_number_002_august_1993/page/24/mode/2up
 SnackPak_: oooo
 MTigress: nice!
 iris_of_ether: Well that's going in a tab
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Aly_Rei: Howdy!
 tdapenguin: @HorusFive oscilloscopes are an 'always have on-hand thing' in my dreams....
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 gnyrinn: (Imagine this being said during the upbeat 90's) Sega
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 iris_of_ether:   
 Thefluffiestguineapig:   
Shadowsoflife:  
 Thefluffiestguineapig: Also fear of Matt's wrath
goatprince: my wrath is gentle. it comes in the form of unflattering edits
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @goatprince That's just quiet, not gentle
 MacbethSeemsSus: As a wise man once said: the fcc won't let me be
 Too_Many_Knives: Some kind of modchip I presume?
niccus: a previous hacker...
 Arclight_Dynamo: First-party official bodge-job.
 Kentosaurus: sometimes they would do fixes in factory
poipal: @goatprince Just enough color correction to make someone look ill
DrakoniteDev: bodges were very common on consumer devices back then
goatprince: @poipal normally i do that accidentally 
 MTigress: https://consolemods.org/wiki/Genesis:Sega_CD_Model_Differences
 MTigress: several revisions feature that bodge PCB
DrakoniteDev: genesis is notorious for having poor quality caps that need replacing
 gnyrinn: Of course NTSC-PAL incompatability was kind of a region lock in many things, although I cannot imagine games being built specifically for each video output.
 SnackPak_: neat
 Too_Many_Knives: Well done
MWGNZ: 
 Fruan: Wow
DrakoniteDev: @gnyrinn yep, used to need to different builds with various differences. adoption of 1080p made my life a lot easier
 MTigress: bodges are a fact of life with older consoles and games
 Manae: I work in R&D, we are CONSTANTLY bodging stuff and rolling it in to the next release
 gnyrinn: @DrakoniteDev Eugh! What an absolute bother to have to deal with.
 MTigress: Super Famicom MegaMan X (RockMan X) v1.0 famously has a bodge wire on every cart to fix a flawed ram-based copy protection scheme.
DrakoniteDev: genesis did not really have that ability the way nes/snes did. genny games were basically just a pair of ROM chips
Blasteg: Is this our desert bus machine?
 Too_Many_Knives: Any mysterious residues?
  Juliamon: good lord no
 Arclight_Dynamo: Replacing the battery is also not a terrible idea.
 tdapenguin: it's matt's parter's @Blasteg
 Territan: When they fail, they fail destructively and aggressively.
 MTigress: oh there ya go. the board has 'BE2200G02B02' printed on it next to the bodge
  Juliamon: yeah honestly I'd swap the battery while you're in there just because that's a 30-year-old battery
goatprince: michale is watching, listening, and learning
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 MTigress: https://consolemods.org/wiki/Genesis:Sega_CD_Model_Differences#/media/File:Segacd2funai.png
 gnyrinn: Oh! Good idea @Juliamon, yes. Replace that battery.
 Arclight_Dynamo: "A Tunguska Event, at this time of year, in this part of the country, located entirely within your Sega CD?!"
 Too_Many_Knives: Those would be SMDs now
 MTigress: the blue ones taste different
 Too_Many_Knives: To a certain extent the physical requirements of being a battery dictate the shape ie: round
 Arclight_Dynamo: Yeah, you need to desolder the holder for these things. It sucks.
  Juliamon: That's annoying.
DrakoniteDev: soldered in does not mean rechargable
 Sethalidos: @goatprince and soon hunting?
 gnyrinn: I remember some old-tech-enthusiast mentioning that 90s electronics that are actually not too small and compact for home maintenance are significantly hand-assembled and hand-soldered.
 MacbethSeemsSus: Reminder, don't keep your computers on carpet.
goatprince: michael is currently flattered and blushing over your compliments
  Juliamon: yeah... my Dreamcast is likely in way worse condition, full of mildew and probably bugs
  Juliamon: basement dens in the 80s weren't designed for gaming consoles
   LoadingReadyRun: @Juliamon Dreamcast can be a bit buggy 
 7gorobei: if you smoke or live somewhere with a real winter, the inside of consoles can be disgusting as insects like the warm interior
 emilevitt: @Juliamon can relate, my  dreamcast is a dust magnet no matter how much i try to keep it clean
 emilevitt: 
 Sethalidos: dammit Paul I was writing the same joke 
 emilevitt: one of these days ill do the psu  mod with the new fan but now is not the time 
goatprince: the michale is pleased by the results of toningh
  Juliamon: emotional support screw
xry_ryxn: what are you making?
  Juliamon: Reassembling a Sega CD
  Juliamon: we're right at the end of it
xry_ryxn: what’s a sega CD
 Sethalidos: *turns to dust*
 Arclight_Dynamo: Self-tapping screws into plastic are a crime.
 tdapenguin: maybe it's an 'oh no, i thought i deleted that from the plan' screw?
xry_ryxn: WHAT ON EARTH IS THIS MACHINE
xry_ryxn: that looks scary
 Thefluffiestguineapig: I'm just gonna go into a corner and take my back medicinesince someone doesn't know what a sega CD is
 gnyrinn: @xry_ryxn A Sega CD. Also, your Caps lock seems to be on.
xry_ryxn: @Thefluffiestguineapig I’m 20 years old is it like an older thing
 Sethalidos: can't back medicine, am dust now
 tdapenguin: it's so you can play sega games @xry_ryxn
xry_ryxn: @gnyrinn sorry that was my fear because it looks scary
 SquareDotCube: I do the same thing, but not upside down
 Sethalidos: @xry_ryxn qiute this thing came out in 1993
xry_ryxn: idk what sega is
xry_ryxn: @Sethalidos oh I see
xry_ryxn: this is cool have fun guys!!
 Thefluffiestguineapig: SEGA is the company that makes Sonic
letsbelgo: lain #1
 Territan: It was before your time. You can either not sweat it, or take in your prehistory.
letsbelgo: It wasn't before paul's time (lovingly)
poipal: I feel like Lain had more in common with .hack//SIGN than GitS
Wrexadecimal: @poipal semi-related, I am incredibly hype for the new dot hack game
 emilevitt: 
 Doc_Layzah: Good sign...
 Thefluffiestguineapig: Thank you off camera Beej!
 aquinas_0: they both had that multimedia thing going on for sure
poipal: @Wrexadecimal Oh right I meant to look that up and totally forgot, brb googling something
goatprince: michae'ls pleased to hear what his issue is
Wrexadecimal: @poipal yeeeessss
 Thefluffiestguineapig:  
 emilevitt:   we workin!
 gnyrinn: @xry_ryxn No only need to fear computers too big to throw out of a window. But, yeah, it's an add-on to the Sega Mega Drive (or Sega Genesis, depending on area). Add-ons always look weird on their own.
 NotCainNorAbel: backup copy...
 SquareDotCube: Is it a bootleg if it never officially existed on the market as a physical copy?
 s0lesurviv0r: Guilty Gear you say??
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Wrexadecimal: BRB making Temple OS boot stick 
 Arclight_Dynamo: "Pick up USB key I find on the floor at DEFCON and plug it directly into my work PC," got it.
DrakoniteDev: ventoy is also great. one drive for multiple images
 TomatoKigu: I'm too lazy for multiple thumbdrives, so I cheat with ventoy.
 Territan: And what is THAT boy?
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  Juliamon: I went to pick up some keys at Costco and they just... don't stock them, to my annoyance
 Phailhammer: @Arclight_Dynamo  
  Juliamon: they USED to, but now that I WANT them
 MacbethSeemsSus: The back ahhhhhhhhh
 aquinas_0: @DrakoniteDev is ventoy actually good? I got as far as the guys website and wasn't sure if I wanted to try it out
 aquinas_0: felt a bit like downloading winrar
 Territan: I have installs of Mint and Ubuntu here. Do you have suggestions for uses for either?
DrakoniteDev: @aquinas_0 works great IMO
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 Driosenth: My computer has more Radiator area than most regular sized sedans... for reasons
 Territan: Cutting out the middlecable.
 Thefluffiestguineapig: The surest sign of "hmmmm what do I have right now" that ended up becoming standard somehow
 Doc_Layzah: Extract 2 staples in the usual way
 Thefluffiestguineapig: That's STUPID (not Paul, what Paul is describing)
 MacbethSeemsSus: Completely interchangeable (proprietary)
 Thefluffiestguineapig: Capitalism strikes again!
 iarethel0ser: @MacbethSeemsSus Completely interchangeable (once)
 7gorobei: some of the psu brands are using the same oem suppliers, so if you know for certain which are rebrands some of the cables can be reused
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @iarethel0ser I would argue that violates what "completely interchangeable" means, because that implies repeatability
 Doc_Layzah: Good to catch that early
 Arclight_Dynamo: Would it be easier to just strip the switch wires and crimp on new MOLEX terminators?
 Thefluffiestguineapig: At least you caught it now
 tdapenguin: @Thefluffiestguineapig pretty sure @iarethel0ser  agrees with you and was making a joke that emphasized the unsutibility of tham as actually interchangeable by saying the 'once'.
jubale1: solder day
 iarethel0ser: @tdapenguin Indeed.
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @tdapenguin For sure, I just like to emphasize like in the kink community that the idea of "try anything once" should be able to try it twice. You can technically try drinking straight chemo once or cutting off a finger once. It's the same with medications, if they are interchangeable you can swap them without consequence
jubale1: what will be accomplished by todays prject
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @jubale1 The goal changed, currently Ian is trying to determine which wires connect to what
 Thefluffiestguineapig: So it should be "try anything twice"
 tdapenguin: @Thefluffiestguineapig it is a very excellent point
jubale1: @thefluffiestguineapig nondestructive single test
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @tdapenguin I have also had a very long day so am being very picky
 tdapenguin: @Thefluffiestguineapig understandable. were there any good animals seen today?
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @iarethel0ser No offense meant at all, that was absolutely my bad
jubale1: i saw a woodpecker
loufghyslaufey: Woof. I even felt that.
iarethel0ser: @Thefluffiestguineapig None taken in the slightest.
 LordZarano: The goal today was to diagnose a Sega CD. The diagnosis result was: It's working perfectly
 tdapenguin: @jubale1 excellent! i saw some crows having a good time
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @LordZarano And that Matt's husband kept is astonishingly clean (props)
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @tdapenguin Oh good bird times! Especially the corvids! Any idea what kind of woodpecker?
jubale1: redheaded
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @jubale1 Oh nice!!
 MacbethSeemsSus: Tell me more about this “Staple” store
loufghyslaufey: Wuh, really?
goatprince: i know -I- had a good time
loufghyslaufey: That almost flew by
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @goatprince Michael kept a very clean console! Hope your whole household is great
 tdapenguin: @jubale1 there are woodpeckers around here but i often don't notice them. *assumes sneaky poster* i shall just have to improve my skillsins!
 NotCainNorAbel: 500
 tdapenguin: thaaaaaaanksssssssssss!
 Vinewood_OG: Spite!
letsbelgo: f yeah
jubale1: this one was knocking in my backyard.  never seen that before
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @tdapenguin Woodpeckers are hard because they move in very odd patterns I've found and if you aren't in specific regions they are often very crepuscular (early morning and evening) bound time wise
letsbelgo: 2am jst start time. Hell yeah
 tdapenguin: @jubale1 super-neato!!!!
 Doc_Layzah: Total disrespect for tolarian academy
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @letsbelgo   
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 tdapenguin: @Thefluffiestguineapig ah, crepuscular could be a reason
 MacbethSeemsSus: Gotta get more weed!
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @Doc_Layzah Tolarian Academy is not Universes Within as far as I'm aware
RelwinEJ: Hell yes, CYOA is back baby!
 tdapenguin: i am so thrilled that the lone wolves book reading are resuming!!!!!
 gnyrinn: @Doc_Layzah And indeed for the Sorbonne, which in Icelandic folklore is where magics are taught.
RavenHillbrookInc: hi all
 GhostValv: can't let the garbage pile up 
ICantKillAnyone: 👋
loufghyslaufey: Wait. Did I miss- oh no. It was brought up.
RavenHillbrookInc: I assume the sega cd is for desert bus?
 Thefluffiestguineapig: @RavenHillbrookInc I thought that too, but it's Matt's husband's
RavenHillbrookInc: @Thefluffiestguineapig oh so its in the name OF LOVE??
  Juliamon: Rhythm Heaven Groove, sooner than expected IMO
 Thefluffiestguineapig: I enjoy the castle game so much
jubale1: eat beats
  Juliamon: We broke the computer though
 GhostValv: and you do commit well
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loufghyslaufey: Uh "Brutal Legend" spiritually font successor?
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 Thefluffiestguineapig: This was so much fun as TTSF always is, thank you
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