drexciya808: taking Ls is the hardest skill
drexciya808: great stream
drexciya808:
TXC2: !pateron
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ContingentCat: Pride never stops here
Mr_Horrible: thanks for the show, lads
Mr_Horrible:
TXC2: !next
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thanks for the stream
TXC2: !events
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TXC2: it's a gas leak year
drexciya808: gas leak lol
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thanks lads 
TXC2:
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RockPusher: !quote adam
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RockPusher:
ErynTzun:
kingandcommoner: !quote
LRRbot: Quote #7317: "Shoot him with that fish!" —Beej, to an imaginary Ben Ulmer [2020-10-30]
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RockPusher:
Ben's imaginary… damn, I didn't know 
Strebenherz: !next
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TXC2: not all Ben's are imaginary, just Beej's
ContingentCat: !findquote beej
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TXC2: CONTACT
Wolfstrike_NL: Haha
TXC2: hello Vinewood_OG welcome
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TXC2: ^
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TheAwkes: Okay I've checked. Is there any audio, or am I hallucinating BGC?
Strebenherz: it is BGC yes
TheMerricat:
@TheAwkes 
Wolfstrike_NL:
There was also the audio where Beej thought he plugged in Pauls microphone 
RockPusher:
Spoon™ 
TXC2: Saskatoon!
TXC2: TODAY!
TheMerricat: Podcast on LP!
ErynTzun: But how will you fit in thee shipping box
RockPusher:
I do not know if I want Beej in my home
kingandcommoner: Don't tempt us with a good time. You know neither side will follow through
ErynTzun: That would be fun
TXC2: I await with bated breath the Argos style LRR catalogue
ContingentCat: a checkpoint zine could be fun
goatprince: 'what's followthrough?'
RockPusher: One of those multi-volume electronics catalogues, but with sad gaming news
goatprince: i literally bought a zine this week
ContingentCat: yeah a lot of small bookstores have zines around here
RockPusher: If we don't sell 100 copies of our zine they will shut down our combination literature club!
OldUncleDan: Like Alphaville!
kingandcommoner: It is my dream to be big in japan too. That's how you get to fight godzilla
Mr_Horrible: LALUR
ContingentCat: Loading Ready Lit
goatprince: uh. beej.
OldUncleDan: LRRki LRRki Literature Club!
ContingentCat: um
Mr_Horrible: like a 2nd-order removed
TheMerricat:
Ready Player One but walkthrough style.
TXC2: people write fanfic about games they HAVEN'T played
calculated_uncertainties: Isn't that what fanfic just...is?
RockPusher:
Heather spiting fire today 
ContingentCat: CEO fanfic
Mr_Horrible: the kids just call that "LARP" these days (incorrectly, but)
pctjoe: game studio / fic
Thus_Spooped_Zarathustra : Sony-chan is being awful tsundere lately.
TXC2: is that just Hyper Dimension Neptunia ?
RockPusher: Moe blobs with jobs
ErynTzun: oh hai!
TXC2: hello Heather, Paul and Beej
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RockPusher: Heather had to best it in armed combat
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TXC2: hello Gledster welcome
TXC2: !discord
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ContingentCat: clearly the outro talk needs to get longer
TXC2: turns out streams are longer then edited videos, who knew
Snowcookies: Chillpoint is at least 2 hrs longer
mtvcdm: The Checkpoint podcast
Gledster: I think, in opposition to Sony, Checkpoint should only be released in physical form in 2027.
RockPusher:
Yes Beej, you've been the steward of many hundreds of hours of my human attention 
Gledster: USB memory sticks for all.
Decaped: need to get that file size down. Maybe we can remove the reflections in the TV screen, or Beej
TXC2: Gledster yes, Paul made that joke at the start
Juliamon: (but as zines, not usb sticks)
Gledster:
@TXC2 Doh!
calculated_uncertainties: @Juliamon usb sticks -with- zines on them
Mr_Horrible: via much wailing and gnashing of teeth
TXC2: Gledster it just means you think like a Comedy genius
Juliamon: where are you finding usb sticks these days anyway
TXC2: less, but not non-dire
Foxmar320: Less dire gaming news???
Mr_Horrible: @Juliamon shaking down a Staples employee
dumbo3k: @Juliamon oh just laying around, and I of course plug them into work computers
Foxmar320: Last month or so, like what are they even doing
Mr_Horrible: kind of a perfect metaphor, yeah
Foxmar320: I have opinions!
Strebenherz: Sony has made some choices
Xed_Regulus: I'm imagine that Simpsons' meme, "XBox, no!" "What?" "Sorry, force of habit." "Sony, no!"
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Mr_Horrible: "If we make no products we reduce costs by 100%"
evelyndisaster: sony you dirty dog
calculated_uncertainties: I mean, they only have to be the lesser of two evils to profit...
e_bloc: That's material
TXC2: it's kind of shocking that Sony hasn't been bought out yet, they've been wanting out for like a decade at this point
Foxmar320: Sony kills Destiny then announces they are commited to live service games.
Foxmar320: What
Vinewood_OG: I can hate both of them. I have plenty of time on my hanfs in this economy.
ErynTzun: Valve also raised their Steam Decks to absurd prices that no one should buy them at, and the Steam Machine is also not worth it at 1k.
TXC2: we're on an odd numbered PS, so it's time for Sony to suck
Vinewood_OG: Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Foxmar320: @TXC2 Ive been giving my PS5 side eye ever since the news.
ErynTzun: It's terrible at every level if you don't already own a console to buy one
TXC2: Foxmar320 fair
Mr_Horrible: I do not like "The Cycle of Company Abuse"
Mr_Horrible: I want out of this Business Relationship
Vinewood_OG: Behold, my ZERO PS5s.
TXC2:
problem with my theory is that unlike the PS3/ xbox360 era, the xbox is also bad this cycle 
Xed_Regulus: I haven't been that impressed with the PS6 catalogue, unfortunately.
Foxmar320: Where I live I know people who still don't have home internet
Xed_Regulus: **PS5
BrowneePointz: it's like 77% are Digital or Subscription or something
Vinewood_OG: Still think Take Two and Rockstar can take a flying leap. Nice try, Sony.
Strebenherz: i don't trust them to not fudge those numbers. and how much is an actual game versus dlc or microtransactions?
drexciya808: @Foxmar320 aye… trad consoles used to fill the space for people without harcore PCs, broadband …
Vinewood_OG: Down with, Day 1 ish
Mai_Andra: oh... i completely missed OOFC...
Gledster: The physical disk version can be an interesting time capsule. I saw some YT vids recently: "Playing Cyberpunk V1.0 from the disk".
LordZarano: I think a lot of the benefits people attribute to physical media are actually benefits of DRM-free media. It doesn't really matter if the game data is stored on a disc you bought or an SSD/HDD, what matters is that you can keep using the data even if the company doesn't want you to
drexciya808: ^
drexciya808: or share, borrow…
calculated_uncertainties: like a zine!
TXC2: or just actually OWNING the damn copy of the media
drexciya808:
Foxmar320: I saw a sad pic of Destiny 2 Forsaken collection recently. Nothing on that disk is in game.
TheMerricat: So what I'm going to say chat is going to seem... adversarial. But I say to because I want it to change. But I just want to remind everyone. YOU NEVER OWNED ANY SOFTWARE that you've paid money for. Even open source software is LICENSED to you, and this is because before computers were 'big' a court decided that copying the software into RAM to run it constituted copyright infringement.
ErynTzun: Code in a box has been a thing since the previous consoles we already knew about that and we were never happy about it.
SquareDotCube: If anything Nintendo found the solution *past* BDs for physical media
Strebenherz: oblivion horse armor is the real blame
ErynTzun: Those of us older than 40s remember when there were no carts it was just what was on the console
RockPusher: Indeed, mutiple different aspects - The DRM/Ownership Issue, the ability to use a thing in an appliance with zero data networking.
RockPusher: the lending/selling aspect
RockPusher:
Watching my VHS with a microscope
TXC2: last PC game on disk I bought was Starcraft 2
LurkerSpine: November 2006
ThorSokar: 2006, but the store wasn't ready right away
ErynTzun: In the 90s I worked 3 jobs and I still could barely afford many games and paying my bills all by myself.
Mr_Horrible: it's funny that stuff for the PS5 won't have been going for a quarter of that before they shoot it in the back of the head
TheMerricat: Proton!
INCSlayer: hmm i do wonder how many games have actually been fully been removed from steam
RockPusher: The only real Steam fuckery I've seen is games patching out their music and that isn't Valve's doing.
Akaiatana: 'Landscape'
Gledster: Elder Scrolls 4 also came out in 2006. I can download that from multiple places and play on PC today.
TXC2: RockPusher yeap, I LONG for the GTA san andreas songs to be restored
LordZarano: A lot of games on Steam are secretly DRM-free. You can take the files from the steamapps folder and just run the exe
Mr_Horrible: @RockPusher eh, there's still things to take them to task for. Their validation process is still almost RNG
TXC2: also, isn't everything on GoG DRM free?
Decaped: Half Life Alyx is still one of the best VR games
ErynTzun: We used to borrow a Neo Geo from the manager becasue it was too expensive for any of us working at the laser tag place to afford. It launched at $649.99 MSRP in 1990.
drexciya808: @TXC2 the ads for the game were all about the music too!
RockPusher: TXC2 That is GOG's value-proposition, yes
TXC2: drexciya808 right?
BrowneePointz: I can't even think of the dozens of PS3 and Vita classics that are just about to be complete vaporware after the closure too
Mr_Horrible: they're certainly not perfect, but yeah, it turns out when you are just "pretty customer-competent" in a sea of "actively customer-hostile" you will be a shining beacon on the cliffside
RockPusher: Mr_Horrible oh don't get me wrong, Valve still are trying to hide behind the fig-leaf of "license not own" which brings all sorts of outrageous notions
Decaped: There was that version of Half Life 2 that ran in a browser window too.
TXC2:
every PS3 game gonna be like that demo Hideo Kojima made
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Akaiatana: If you make a copy of F Zero, it becomes F One
drexciya808: groanski lol
INCSlayer: also people have mostly forgotten this but people HATED steam when it came out
RockPusher: INCSlayer indeed, I was one of said people
drexciya808: it’s hard to like or care about launchers
Decaped: @TheMerricat I just meant as an example of, like, encapsulated games. You could put that thing on a USB stick to run, wouldn't even need to install anything.
Gledster: Agreed @INCSlayer , it forced itself on me with a HL2 install I think...No choice but to have it.
TXC2:
I also did not like steam, but then again I had 512K internet at the time
Mr_Horrible: "but there's a step I could monetize here"
Mr_Horrible: it's Unity CEO Thinking
LordZarano: Valve encourages putting your games on physical media and sharing between devices, both the Deck and Machine have microSD card slots
Juliamon: I didn't have an opinion on Steam, but they offered Portal for free through it, and everyone was talking about Portal, so I gave it a go
Mr_Horrible: yeah, I basically just made a steam account because I tried Team Fortress 2 on 360, and then wanted to play the "real" version with my friends
Mai_Andra:
PS5 won't even let me see what it's storing in "Other" that takes 60+GBs for some reason... 
INCSlayer: a license to watch the movie specifically through their plattform
Mr_Horrible: I wasn't really a PC Gamer beyond checking out the Muppet Treasure Island computer game from the library repeatedly before that
LurkerSpine: The license is a license to own. I'm gonna love to see the fallout when that eventually happens in court. When you were buying a disc, you were buying a license too
RockPusher: In my jurisdiction the "you only licensed it" shouldn't fly - the law is very clear if it is sold like a product then it *is* a product and I doubt any company would allow legal proceedings to actually go to decision.
Mr_Horrible: Graham walking into the Friend Zone and doing the "OI! YOU GOT A LOICENSE FO THAT?"
Gledster: It would be less friction if there were multiple stores on each console.
BrowneePointz: and legislation is too slow moving on any modern tech that there's no pushback for these kind of Corporate overreach
drexciya808: license to drink ? nooooo!!!
BrowneePointz: these kinds*
Jennie_Fuchsia: is the mug example just wild bills?
ContingentCat: unless you got it from the library
Mr_Horrible: Heather beat me to it
LordZarano: First thing I ever bought on Steam was GMod+CS:S
LurkerSpine: EULA's are largely filled with unenforceable bullshit. We just don't have money to take the corps to court
drexciya808:
OldUncleDan: And automobile and farm implement companies are trying to sell you a license/subscription so you can even use your very physical vehicle.
wildpeaks: stadia
Vinewood_OG: Where's my digital Checkpoint mug?
TXC2: OldUncleDan and then can't repair said vehicle
drexciya808: heavy industry is going this way too … renting out oil & gas pipes and valves even
ArcOfTheConclave: they wiped it from your hard drive?
INCSlayer: the cost of the hosting of the store front with the ability to purchase things cannot be that much more expensive than just hosting the re-download variant of the same store though right?
TXC2: a microcosm of Capitalism
OldUncleDan: Hell, there are even companies that are doing this to stuff like freaking wheelchairs!
Vinewood_OG: My man!
drexciya808: imagine getting your wheelchair repod
TXC2: if purchasing isn't owning, Piracy isn't theft
drexciya808: lease expiring *
Julian_Rogue: There is a literacy crisis. so they may just make new phrases for old ideas
drexciya808: @TXC2 that is pretty good
INCSlayer: @TXC2 this is why have no problems with my plex server
Gledster: IT's also not practical to store your entire game collection at home due to file size of modern games. Like, I'd need a multi-multi TB NAS and weeks to download it all
RockPusher:
TXC2 it definitially wasn't to begin with
Vinewood_OG: Then what happened?
TheMerricat: et in the 90's. (fixed link) I hope.
BrowneePointz: Ye Diane Duane fixed ableist language in her Young Wizards reprint!
BrowneePointz: cuz she wanted to update language to modern and kinder verbage!
wildpeaks: didn't amazon also removed books you had purchased at some point ?
TheMerricat: @wildpeaks Yep
ContingentCat: @wildpeaks specifically with 1984 I remember hearing about that happening with
drewm1022: I loved the Young Wizards books. Especially the whale one.
Vinewood_OG: I'm Upton Sinclair, and welcome to Jackass!
drexciya808:
Gledster: @wildpeaks Yup, they do it semi-often
RockPusher: Of course, when we get to stories not covered in the main show we'll get back to this topic in the "Minecraft and Counterstrke private servers are illegal" hot-take by the ESA
drexciya808: bruh
drexciya808:
TheMerricat: You know chat, at least when they Retconned the bible they had the decency to call it a different edition.
Decaped: @RockPusher Perhaps they'll give the missing context for that discussion too
Gledster: The English author Jasper Fforde has made it a feature on his website.
drexciya808: critical editions in philology are kinda like changelogs
Mr_Horrible: tfw Fawkes says "no, that's your job, go in the Radiation That Kills You room"
drexciya808: really only ancient texts with lots of MS variance
TheMerricat: For Sony movies you need to have an active license for the movie and those 'expire' and need to be renewed every x number of days.
LurkerSpine: @TheMerricat From my reading of this it isn't the same thing. Related, but not the same thing as a purchaser of a thing having their "license" revoked
e_bloc: But you have to log in no less than at least one week
TheMerricat:
@LurkerSpine Yeah I got distracted and lost the thread of the conversation appearntly. I was responding to a different idea I though was being expressed.
RockPusher: I am interested to see how the Sony movie aspect goes down in jurisdictions with functioning consumer protection laws.
RockPusher: Apple were very notables in being DRM free
RockPusher: 'cause they were big enough to tell the recording industry to go shove it
Akaiatana: I have used itunes to buy music and I can guarantee there's no DRM. I use it very offline with free software
ThorSokar: OK, I checked, the DS / Wii store / online is completely gone (gamespy ran the servers and went out of business), Wii U / 3DS you can supposedly still download stuff you bought
TheMerricat: @RockPusher As much as I would love to see Sony slammed by this, companies have been pulling content due to expired licenses and not offering refunds for a long time and even in those countries it's not actually gotten the eyes of the courts because the TOS says they can.
wildpeaks: I'd play the cozy resident evil game
Foxmar320: Id play a chill RE game.
drexciya808:
ArcOfTheConclave: resident valley?
TXC2: Cozy resident evil game of just exploring how buck wild this mansion is
RockPusher: TheMerricat the TOS doesn't matter in countries with working consumer protection - here at least they would almost certainly lose in small claims - though enforcement is a different matter
drexciya808: that is frickin hilarious
HorusFive:
@TXC2 Adam? Is that you? 
TXC2:
HorusFive I wish
e_bloc: It's like resident immoral
Foxmar320: Leon cleans up a former Umbrella mansion
wildpeaks: way too scary
DoodlestheGreat: Water pistols at ten paces!
TXC2: OSHA violations simulator in the RE mansion
drexciya808: cozy undeath seems even scarier than the regular kind
Laserbeaks_Fury: That's 7th Guest
AugmentingPath: Pretty sure the original idea behind an escape room was "what if you could play RE in real life"
HorusFive: New game idea- design and renovate a regular mansion for the RE mansion owner
Foxmar320: Early RE games were just odd keys and moving blocks
e_bloc: Give me the silent hill Shakespeare option though
Foxmar320: Maybe finding a password
drexciya808: happy homebuilder was a sweet animal crossing..why not
Foxmar320: To be fair thats almost an actual RE puzzle from RE3
drexciya808:
Foxmar320: Beej is very close
SquareDotCube: Oh, Beej should play RE7 then, there's an explanation behind its puzzles
Foxmar320: Loved that in RE7
e_bloc: He's only like 56
dumbo3k: @e_bloc yeah, but he's also sick, IIRC
Foxmar320: Im honestly tired of Leon being the lead in RE games. Can we get Jill again?
RockPusher:
Fighting evil spirits in cosy mountain village between afternoon tea time with the gods simulator 2027
TheMerricat:
@Foxmar320 Or you know... let there be NEW characters?
Mai_Andra: Retire to a farm, like Thanos.
drexciya808: leon pickleball sim
Foxmar320: I liked the new characters im just saying if they want to reuse character Jill has not been lead in a long time
SquareDotCube: FBI I think
KeytarCat: Fights umbrellas? Kitsune Tails??
TheMerricat: " series, Leon S. Kennedy works as a federal agent for the Division of Security Operations (DSO), an elite U.S. counter-bioterrorism agency that operates under the direct command of the President."
Laserbeaks_Fury: Retire to Midgard, get remarried and have a son.
e_bloc: Leon dating sim when
LordZarano: House Flipper: Resident Evil would be a funny crossover
drexciya808:
HorusFive: @Laserbeaks_Fury 50% of the time it works every time
drexciya808: the whiplash
LordZarano: !crossover
LRRbot: I'm sure everything here would translate perfectly to a mobile gacha game.
TXC2: Leon dates, Ada does increasingly elaborate schemes to sabotage
drexciya808:
Wolfstrike_NL:
Aaa this is the Anime roundup now
DoodlestheGreat: Then they DID put a female kitsune in the series.
wildpeaks: ohh good idea
calculated_uncertainties: mecha chameleon clean up the paintball splats
ContingentCat: that would be a great collaboration
drexciya808: hahaha
Laserbeaks_Fury: E1M1
e_bloc: its like a rage room
drexciya808: jet set radio
drexciya808:
Julian_Rogue: oh hey just noticed beej eating. what am beej eating?
RockPusher:
Now I want to see the powerwash version of flamethrower vs fire extinguisher
devinesq: Enfilthening simulator
LordZarano: FuturLab is the dev
e_bloc: powerwash simulator is just the sequel to hotline miami
drexciya808: there’s a recent ish britcom “the cleaner” that is pretty good … about a guy who comes in to clean after the crime drama homicides…
BrowneePointz: Sly Cooper
Foxmar320: Bombrush was fun
BrowneePointz: let me wash Murray's Van
DoodlestheGreat: @drexciya808 People forget that's a legitimate job.
Juliamon: metcha
drexciya808:
@DoodlestheGreat
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BrowneePointz: I can't believe that game was 2 devs in 2 months, and now over 10 million copies in 26 days
BrowneePointz: good on those two folks
Julian_Rogue: @BrowneePointz Sometimes its the simplest ideas. The hard part can be catching fire.
TXC2: isn't the katakana for Ha actually Ja ? so it's like Metsuja becomes Mecha
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Foxmar320: Tim said something again today as well
Julian_Rogue: @BrowneePointz I mean heck look at minecrafts origin story
Juliamon: TXC2 no, ja is different
Foxmar320: Yeah that place
calculated_uncertainties: Heather's slinging truths today hard
ErynTzun: I have launched one game and then forgot
drexciya808: oh yeah that other launcher that sucks
RockPusher: How dare Valve not kick themselves in the taint! Everyone should be kicking themselves in the taint!
TXC2:
Juliamon ah ok, my knowledge is based on trying to learn Sumo moves
TheMerricat: It always amazes me that Tim FOUNDED EA in his parents basement in lieu of graduating from college. Imagine, chat, how powerful he'd have been if he actually had an education rather than just an ego and opinions.
BrowneePointz: @Julian_Rogue the main guy had lots of practice doing similar game ideas in like fortnite creative etc
Foxmar320: Today he said AI could have saved Destiny
TXC2: (the names of sumo moves)
wildpeaks: nothing says trustworthy like complaining you can't trick customers
TXC2: it's a database on someone else' computer
ContingentCat: I'd rather not have the disclosure too, I'd like them just banned.
ArcOfTheConclave: nfts?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Let's be fair to the Devil, selling your soul has always been opt in, not opt out.
TheMerricat: I'd LOVE to be the dev trying to balance OTHER GAMES CONTENT in my own game.
e_bloc: I can't think of anything i want less
drexciya808:
SquareDotCube: I feel like Tim should be locked in a room with an IBM PS/2 and the only way to get out is to recreate the mechanics of either ZZT or Jill of the Jungle from scratch, and then build a full game from that
drexciya808: @squaredotcube brill
mtvcdm: Tim's one of those guys who can't fathom that some people don't want to do his thing
drexciya808: coalition of the willing
public_key_reveal_party: I have allied with myself, our foundation of cooperation is unshakable
drexciya808: i know this drill
e_bloc: it is a bloc of myself and every company i own part of
gualdhar: this sounds suspiciously like communism /s
Foxmar320: Good
TXC2: communism would be the license is held by the govenment
drexciya808: a little like Richard Stallman’s classic point about open software … people then compete and earn for coming up with something good
wildpeaks: customers as a service
e_bloc: we like to call it value distribution
drexciya808:
b2b
RockPusher: Everything continues to come up Godot
TXC2: how much are Devs gonna stick with unreal 5 because of that ?
public_key_reveal_party: Yeah, a lot of people have been like "there are zero consequences for not reporting AI, so, why bother?"
drexciya808: ai art is a line, yeah
mtvcdm: Any AI disclosure section and I just hit ignore on the game and move on
RockPusher: On Steam that'd be a good way to get de-listed when people refund based on that
TheMerricat: You can lie on your resume but if you get caught out.....
mtvcdm: You delay it but god help you if anyone finds out
wildpeaks: I wish Steam had an option for neutral reviews that provide information, not only positive/negative
drexciya808: perjury is tough to prosecute and it happens all the time… yeah
Laserbeaks_Fury: Most people don't read the Nutritional values of food. Should still be there.
public_key_reveal_party: Oh, yeah, that wasn't a criticism of having a labeling system, I'm talking purely from the storefront won't do anything about it
Mr_Horrible: it's more of a "is there a consequence specifically from the platform?" yeah
drexciya808: critical mass of walkaway from the platform is far enough away yet
RockPusher: Pay no attention to the collapse of the rule of law, Beej!
TXC2: Humans are social animals
RockPusher:
Communicating with humans‽ Ew!
TheMerricat: Part of the reason Valve left it so wide open is because they know that AI right now is so new and in the air if they codify stuff, folk will either be able to loophole it or something will come up that doesn't fit the niche.
OldUncleDan: It's how we got to where we are. It's our greatest strength.
drexciya808: punish by mandating a patch for the game with hatsune miku easter eggs
sentientwaffle_: @drexciya808 "punishment"?
TXC2: OldUncleDan and yet people keep trying to divide us
TheMerricat: PAGING: Peter Molyneux, Peter Molyneux, please come to the Chillpoint desk.
Marvoleath:
People love being told lies, they just don't like discovering that those are lies
Foxmar320: Still mad that the new Crazy Taxi was made with ai
RockPusher: "All right," said Susan, "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need...fantasies to make life bearable."
TheMerricat: Heather's House of Lies.
e_bloc: wait is the house of lies a lie
LordZarano: I was so disappointed in a game I found today that looked really cozy and relaxing and then had an AI disclosure for boring landscape paintings that added nothing to the game on walls and could've easily been something public domain
OldUncleDan: @TXC2 Honestly, I think it is because we have become victims of our own success. We have become so successful as a species that many of us forgot how we got there.
gualdhar: something something Heather and Stockholm Syndrome
TXC2: "but they are entertaini lies, and in the end is that not the real truth?...the answer is no>"
TXC2: OldUncleDan true
otakubox0: yeah I figured that was part of the bit and commented that lol
drexciya808: you have the baseline of trust to be able to joke hard
SquareDotCube: I did catch the Sakuna part, Beej
e_bloc: now when Heather lies about AI then we get the pitchforks
TXC2: !addquote (Beej) [now] They're used to my bullshit! | on lying to chat
LRRbot: New quote #9608: "They're used to my bullshit!" —Beej, on lying to chat [2026-07-03]
RockPusher:
Honestly I was too hype about the Garden of Gods reference to notice the Rice and Ruin gag
drexciya808:
Juliamon: I thought the Rice and Ruin bit was funny, so at least some of us got the joke
Strebenherz: Oh hell that's messed up
e_bloc: I don't know if I'm ready for BeejAI
Strebenherz: Bus that to hell
drexciya808: holy shit
TXC2: sounds like a scam to me, that is scary AF
RockPusher: It's a known scam vector nowadays unfortunately
OldUncleDan: The trailer for the new "King of the Hill" season had a bit that did just that.
drexciya808: beejai sexbot tho
SquareDotCube: *tips hat* d'brand
e_bloc: @drexciya808 I'm listening
OldUncleDan: That Peggy and Hank got a scam message that was an AI chatbot saying that Bobby was in jail.
Akaiatana: Oh, are we have a d'brief?
TXC2: right chat I'm off
RockPusher: 'night TXC2
drexciya808: o7 tx
ErynTzun: One of the worst brands out there
TXC2: Goodnight everybody, and thanks for streaming Heather, Paul and Beej
SquareDotCube: best known for pranking LTT with device skins
Thus_Spooped_Zarathustra : Goodnight, TXC2
drexciya808:
@e_bloc 
TheMerricat:
I'm mildly surprised that you all mentioned the Zelda clone they flipped off Nintendo with and didn't mention the time they got C&Ded for their PS faceplates from Sony given both they had to pull down the original faceplates and all the other Sony news that came through this time.
Laserbeaks_Fury: If the Companion Cube has fallen through, they still have the Game Cube
drexciya808: dun do dat
RockPusher: I'd be interested in exactly Valve's thinking on straight turning them down - surely dumptrucks of money could have fixed it. Suggests they've pissed Valve off in some other way and/or Valve has had their own plans in the works.
ErynTzun: Gamers Nexus makes a replacement front panel, but it is a 3D print, it improves on airflow, and it doesn't have any IP tied to it.
drexciya808:
Cptasparagus: I own a d-brand case, and I really do love it, but they're really dumb as a company. Their handling of the Killswitch 2 case thing was also a huge red flag.
ErynTzun: It would have been so easy to just do THAT, but Dbrand is just like that, I wouldn't buy anything from a company that acts like they do.
Akaiatana: Appealing Cube, might delete later.
TheMerricat: @RockPusher Given Valve waited till _now_ to tell them to go pound sand suggests Valve either really wanted to soak them (make them waste money on the project before shutting it down) or they really expected DBrand to pull their head out of their rear and when they never did....
drexciya808: probably many lawyer letters along the way
TheMerricat: Caveat, they were mea culpa while also trying to dredge up pity by mentioning how much they sank into the project.
TheMerricat:
Radical Dude! Cowabunga!
OldUncleDan: I wonder if their CEO owns a ukelele...
ErynTzun: They are such D bags, they are anything but cool.
RockPusher: TheMerricat certainly sounds like there may be more to it, though I've seen some very dysfunctional organisations so stupidity is the most plausible answer
Akaiatana: Their loyal customers are steamed
Cptasparagus: farming controversy can be a brand but doing it clumsily just makes you a jerk
ErynTzun: They treat their customers so poorly, no one is going to defend them over Valve.
drexciya808: @Cptasparagus farming for sure
TheMerricat: If your shtick is picking fights with other kids that no one likes to become popular on the playground, pick _unpopular_ kids.
LordZarano: @ErynTzun GamersNexus's panel is based on a Fractal Design Torrent PC case, so they're not entirely in the clear
drexciya808: really?!
Cptasparagus: they use the site "shortlinus dot com" or "mybossifveryshort dot com"
ErynTzun: They do really toxic jerkwad things is what they do
ErynTzun: And racist
drexciya808:
drexciya808: fam laid off … just lol at their whole plan
LordZarano: Only thing I really know about dbrand is that JerryRigEverything works for them, making the teardown and x-ray designs
wildpeaks: so as much invested in fewer projects, so expectations will be even more unrealistic
drexciya808: ^
ArtDecoSunburn: How often are these studio purchases to acquire back catalog IP?
drexciya808: seems like the terminal run of hollywood
wildpeaks: they want the eggs, not the goose
mtvcdm: Gib Warcraft, no people, only Warcraft
Foxmar320: And they do!
Juliamon: dev not valued
drexciya808: zombie ip world
e_bloc: not just can, but typically do
TheMerricat: Chat, remember when it was _EA_ that had the reputation for being where studios went to die? Or is that old old history these days?
drexciya808:
BrowneePointz: By one of the myriad Picard showrunners
BrowneePointz: have fun with that
e_bloc: interesting
Wolfstrike_NL: So I assume a original works
DoodlestheGreat: yeah, WHICH Persona...
e_bloc: is it persona 4
BrowneePointz: what the penis monster paul
BrowneePointz: or blowing your own brains out to summon your persona?
TheMerricat:
Good luck killing god when you are doing an English facing show.
ArtDecoSunburn: Amazing that we attribute corporate success always to skill and wisdom. There are definitely smart business people who deserve their success; there are also many dumb corporate leaders who just get lucky.
BrowneePointz: (them doing a live action series seems like a bad idea)
Decaped: Why would the enemies even exist in a TV adaptation
e_bloc: graphic depictions of faux-suicide
RockPusher: The 5 anime gave us some extra great songs
calculated_uncertainties: Wasn't it a weird 3 spinoff with adult ahikiko?
ArcOfTheConclave:
a colab with P5? inb4 end of netflix service within the year.
GapFiller: Persona at least feels relatively filmable compared to Core MegaTen
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheMerricat Big problem with the "Golden Compass" franchise in the US.
e_bloc: probably
gualdhar: Metaphor Refantazio definitely felt like Persona except not in a high school
e_bloc: @gualdhar agree
BrowneePointz: there's deific or other supernatural beings, the dive into the human psyche and condition
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheMerricat Remember when EA was the thinly veiled villain of Ultima VII for the drama in its purchase of Origins?
BrowneePointz: and a high school backdrop
RockPusher: It's a movie that exists *nods*
INCSlayer: what about final fantasy Unlimited? the oft forgotten anime?
calculated_uncertainties: The Velvet Room.
calculated_uncertainties: The whole premise is who you are versus who you show to people, and how you use them
MrGibberish: The general dichotomy of the fantastical elements and the real world side
drexciya808: @calculated_uncertainties whoa
e_bloc: and some very strange and confusing things
Decaped: The two persona anime are already lacking monsters.
GapFiller:
on that note is there anything a Persona show can do that Buffy didnt already do
BrowneePointz: it's about revealing someone's id or ego
BrowneePointz: the psyche
BrowneePointz: and human condition
calculated_uncertainties: @drexciya808 I will clarify, it's more using the personality elements than the people. but I've played a lot of the Persona Franchise.
drexciya808: @calculated_uncertainties tyft
RockPusher:
No pressure on the music director for a Persona show
e_bloc: god willing
calculated_uncertainties: @drexciya808 Yeah, I reread that and there were a few words missing.
Mr_Horrible: you kill "some entity" that is trying to exert control over humanity
Mr_Horrible: basically every Persona final boss is "humans are happier without free will" so you have to say "nuh uh!"
drexciya808: i mean in many an epic the hero fights monsters the hero is discovering enemies in the self, and going home
e_bloc: can we just get a show about the doctor from persona 5
public_key_reveal_party: 50 hours is a pretty low estimate tbh haha
drexciya808: @e_bloc can we just get a show about the doctor from voyager
calculated_uncertainties: @e_bloc She's great, but honestly, the cafe as a slice of life
e_bloc: yeah i was gonna say I think my completion was 100
e_bloc: @calculated_uncertainties oh yeah this
e_bloc: @drexciya808 yes
RockPusher:
BrowneePointz: the rerelease let you choose
Mr_Horrible:
no Atlus hates those now, Beej 
BrowneePointz: like COWARDS
RockPusher: ooof
drexciya808: lol
drexciya808: beej on point
e_bloc: can we keep futaba though
Mr_Horrible: no that's a different game series, Paul
drexciya808:
TheMerricat: Ah chat, was the person who wanted to talk about Minecraft servers still here?
TheMerricat:
RockPusher: Keep digging ESA
RockPusher: I'm sure you'll find bedrock eventually
RockPusher: The most exquisitely dumb of takes
TheMerricat: The arguement wasn't even "open up the code", just that we should be allowed to figure out how.
Mr_Horrible: "Because 3rd party servers killed my grandma, okay?!"
RockPusher: Those Minecraft and Counterstrike servers, illegal!!!
spurius: you wouldnt download a game would you ? oh ... nm
drexciya808: gibbons are running servers yo
e_bloc: no thats roblox
drexciya808: gimme a fin break
Laserbeaks_Fury: "it illegal" as a defense when the whole point is to argue it shouldn't be
Snowcookies: wut
Mr_Horrible: little Timmy getting dragged to court over playing Skygrid once
Mr_Horrible: YUUUUP
drexciya808: outrageous
Decaped: The ESA argument was that they use the current legal framework to enforce government's request to moderate game social spaces.
RockPusher: TheMerricat the walking back I've seen has not been particularly walking back - certainly not contrite we lied to a committee mindset
public_key_reveal_party: "we would like to employ the legal strategy of 'we had our fingers crossed behind our back' and will not accept more questions"
drexciya808: @Decaped regulate speech…
Decaped: @drexciya808 Yeah! The government is requesting they do that
TheMerricat: @RockPusher "walking back" in the sense that they've 'clarified' that they meant using content they didn't license out is illegal.
GapFiller: its phunny James had no idea abt any of this until chat brought it up during a stream yesterday given a) CheckPoint is one of the few bits of LRR content w/ which he keeps up and 2) this is his specialist subject!
Decaped: It's not a good argument for us. but they weren't talking to us.
drexciya808: @Decaped as a mod on an indep server it gets wild but dude
e_bloc: certainly not drugs in my backyard
Cptasparagus: Ted Stevens
LordZarano: @GapFiller CheckPoint wasn't up yet during his stream
public_key_reveal_party: What is a wire but a tube for electrons
drexciya808:
Laserbeaks_Fury: Specifically the tubes from Futurama
drexciya808: @Cptasparagus ah yes gifty
Mr_Horrible: "I'm getting heat from dumbass parents who want me to collect their kids' biometric data"
RockPusher: There is a distinction to be made between lobbying and blatant misrepresentation
drexciya808:
@drexciya808 sorry that is an oldass controversy
RockPusher: If they are a member of the bar I would look at professional conduct violations
Mai_Andra: "literally"
OldUncleDan: "Cells at Work" told me all about that!
TheMerricat:
Beej is hip to the kids talk chat.
ContingentCat: like inflammable
drexciya808: platelets are homies
TheMerricat: @OldUncleDan Oh god, I forgot about that anime!
RockPusher:
literally is literally an example of language flipping a meaning while we watch
e_bloc: but old people think everything can hurt or kill you
spurius: why do you need to put a chip in my brain to stop a virus? checkmate
Mai_Andra: "It's just letters on a paper, and those letters are ~ a u t i s m ~"
OldUncleDan: Chicken Pox parties were a thing in my day.
e_bloc: they didn
mtvcdm: !addquote (Beej) [now] All right kids, lick each other's sores!
LRRbot: New quote #9609: "All right kids, lick each other's sores!" —Beej [2026-07-03]
drexciya808: eww that was not a meme??
TheMerricat: @OldUncleDan Same here. And somehow I missed catching it every time.
e_bloc: *they did not try very hard for me NOT to get chicken pox
INCSlayer: its how i got my chicken pox
public_key_reveal_party: I got a chicken pox vaccine, which apparently was still somewhat new when I was the age I got it at
Thefluffiestguineapig: Collusion is something they legislated against in the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION
Thefluffiestguineapig: Similar to monopolies
e_bloc: as a 41 year old, the chicken pox vaccine was getting chicken pox
eid010n: reaching for tortured analogies, afaik these days standard vaccines are a bit like a taxidermied museum piece of a virus, while mRNA type vaccines are like a research report and weapon manufacturing blueprints. sort of.
Mr_Horrible: I think they're allowed to just kill you for that in the UK, so good luck to them
TheMerricat:
TIL, thanks to OldUncleDan reminding me the anime existed. Cells at Work for a _live action_ adaption.
e_bloc: it turns out resistance to collusion largely depends on how much the government can profit on collusion
LordZarano: The start of the antivax movement was literally a fraud by someone that profited from discrediting the MMR vax
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calculated_uncertainties: Not that those were better than vaccines, but all those 'parties' had some benefits, since a lot of those were more problematic either physiologically or economically as adults. Me, I prefer vaccines.
Thefluffiestguineapig: The sheer irony considering they do union bust
TheMerricat: @LordZarano That was the seed. I maintain that it was more of a 'straw that broke the camels back' than a snowball that was rolling down a hill.
drexciya808: the attorney fees to bust are way lower than what company owners fear about payroll
e_bloc: we wouldnt need criminals if the justice system protected workers
Thefluffiestguineapig: @drexciya808 Also any fees they charge for getting caught "union busting" are pennies
drexciya808: @Thefluffiestguineapig 100
Thefluffiestguineapig: OH YES
niccus: wait, this can be an in-moonbase game
drexciya808: crochet bombing is a hell of a phrase
OldUncleDan: Macha Chameleons?
Mai_Andra: めっちゃカメレオン ("Super Chameleon")
ContingentCat: it's my favourite kind of nusence for authorities
e_bloc:
666 happy pride
Thefluffiestguineapig: Well authorities can get bent in many ways
drexciya808: graffiti rules
public_key_reveal_party: It also would need to be enough of a nuisance that someone actually goes through the effort of like, getting someone in trouble for it
ArtDecoSunburn: @Thefluffiestguineapig Fight the power!
ContingentCat: I don't think enough people have 3d printers to really get that much to be a problem
drexciya808: authorities are concerned it is too wholesome
e_bloc: just have a meccha spotting party
Thefluffiestguineapig: @e_bloc Honestly that would be a great way to get people
TheMerricat: Or a kid picks one up and pops it into their mouth and then you've got liability for the choking hazard because it was in your store.
Mai_Andra: alternately, "Extreme Chameleon"
wildpeaks: respectful graffiti
e_bloc: @Thefluffiestguineapig maybe defacement is just marketing thats underutilized
Decaped: I'm reminded of the story of the homeowner who hid a bunch of tiny ducks and requested their maid find them all.
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drexciya808: it is creative af
public_key_reveal_party: @e_bloc I would argue marketing is defacing space
OldUncleDan: I tried whimsy once... It gave me a migraine.
ContingentCat: I'll see scarves that way too, people will put a note on them so you know it's not just lost
e_bloc: @public_key_reveal_party I see what you are saying and I do not disagree on the face, but maybe that's bad marketing?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @public_key_reveal_party I agree that you don't need to turn everything into a side gig or everything into marketing
drexciya808: captures one spirit of graf of bringing a little beauty and joy to people
e_bloc: is it possible the best marketing could be recognized as art and not marketing
public_key_reveal_party: @e_bloc I'm mostly just like "advertising is a constant intrusion even in a very minor way so many spaces we have, and it is extremely difficult to escape from"
drexciya808: that’s part of the weirdness of graffiti…if conscientious one is always trying to balance the disruption vs.
e_bloc: @public_key_reveal_party yes, that was totally what I took it as and I agree completely
aitsu100: a couple mini paint pots and a 3d printer seems like a good time
TheMerricat: Meccha Chameleon has sold over 10 million copies on Steam in just 16 days after its release on June 10, achieving a massive peak of 340,535 concurrent players.
drexciya808:
thanks y’all
iris_of_ether: I got my Jobby shirt in. I'm looking forward to Respectful Adventures
e_bloc: LRR still sells physical products, just saying
Marvoleath: !store
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e_bloc: is this a meccha tie-in
Snowcookies: ty for the stream
TheAinMAP: !next
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Thefluffiestguineapig: And being called on it correct?
e_bloc: thank you for making a lot of kinda depressing news entertaining
drexciya808: a specific masochism
e_bloc: I suspect there is an honor system if you notice something ex post facto, but I do not recall
Thefluffiestguineapig: Which IIRC Wheeler has done?
Snowcookies: it's anime time
DoodlestheGreat: Woot!
RockPusher: Sadly I will be at work
RockPusher: Otherwise I would have so many anime to talk about
RockPusher: Donk! Donk!
e_bloc: I haven't watched anime in almost 10 years and somehow I still find every single one of these streams absolutely enjoyable
drexciya808:
e_bloc: calling a game Heaven is false advertising
RockPusher:
ErynTzun: Rhythm Heaven, also known as Rhythm Paradise in PAL regions, is a rhythm game series developed and published by Nintendo and co-developed with TNX Music Recordings.
e_bloc: isnt paradise just heaven without any religious connentations
BrowneePointz: oh the peak folks
BrowneePointz: their new game
aitsu100: as they are licenced to drive them Paul
NonjaBiru: I'm assuming Ian is part of this
Thefluffiestguineapig: Get forklift certified
e_bloc: its essentailly just shenmue
RockPusher: Forklift certification simulator
drexciya808: respectful forklift usage stream
Snowcookies: I'm sure Ben does on his free time
Thefluffiestguineapig: Every time you all talk about the guy who made RE 1 and 2 it makes me cackle
drexciya808:
Mr_Horrible: Adam played stardew *once*, to his credit
Mr_Horrible:
with special guest Beej, sometimes
public_key_reveal_party: To be fair the cozy part does involving someone in charge getting randomly shot
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Snowcookies On his home stream he's played some Pokopia and it was........enlightening
ContingentCat: we're not going to judge
e_bloc: that reminds me, say hi to your dick for me
TheAinMAP:
drexciya808: dicks
public_key_reveal_party: *in chat
Everspace: Also me with my prime one
Everspace: But I also just did it
LordZarano: Rhythm Tengoku in Japan, Rhythm Heaven in NA, Rhythm Paradise in PAL, and Rhythm World in Korea
TheAinMAP:
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Pheonix888:
calculated_uncertainties: 8 more hours
drexciya808: 8s are gr8
Mr_Horrible: UI says 8 hours left
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Thefluffiestguineapig: Is Cozy Let's Nope rat shaker?
e_bloc: cheers chat, see you at judges' tower
e_bloc: @Thefluffiestguineapig i question your definition of cozy
Strebenherz: !next
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