Ceracha: when was the last time you had brussel sprouts though? becuase they are so much better than they were like 20-30 years ago. They've done some genetic breeding to make them way better now
Vinewood_OG: Scandlers holding the line
gualdhar: potatoes are the best starch food and its not close
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Mr_Horrible hilariously the thing they are dealing with now is something that runs rampant in certain veterinary settings
Thefluffiestguineapig: mushy peas: TRASHY
TXC2: Fries, but that's cheating
Mr_Horrible: extremely tough but I always keep mashed potatoes with adobo in my fridge basically 24/7
munocard: french fries?
Mr_Horrible: brick?
BrowneePointz: a rectangular prism?
Vinewood_OG: Air fried hash browns or mini tots
LMAOkai_: scalloped potatos
AceGun_: no chance
munocard: hasselbeck potatoes rule
Thefluffiestguineapig: @gualdhar For me sometimes I prefer rice more
LMAOkai_: wish it didn't take so much work
Mr_Horrible: okay mr bougie
TXC2: the heck is scalloped?
munocard: it's sliced vertically thinly
TXC2: a Cuboid
LMAOkai_: layers of sliced potatos with other stuff and cheese
munocard: hasselback is not what you're describing
AceGun_: scalloped potatoes are like top ten, maybe.
Mr_Horrible: scalloped is basically Fat Chip
chand3123k: scalloped and crisped is amazing.
Mai_Andra: Just bite into it like an apple? Dip it in spicy cheese?
Mr_Horrible: certain fries are kino, others are dreck
cherryblossomchef: crispy roasted potatoes are goated
Mr_Horrible: they contain multitudes
LowUpsideCJ: high ceiling low floor on fries
AceGun_: properly roasted potatoes are peak.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Mai_Andra nope, too hard. that texture of a raw potato is not good
Mr_Horrible: [extremely loud incorrect buzzer]
munocard: Worse than just boiled?
Mr_Horrible: oh that's fine thhen
LMAOkai_: other best way to eat potatos is in poutine form
Zaneysed: They suck
TXC2:
boiled is just unmashed potatoes 
RelwinEJ: think of a baked potato almost as a bread product and that it's whatever you put on it that makes it great
Thefluffiestguineapig: Plain boiled is bad
AceGun_: boiled potatoes are great, what do you mean? People don't like potatoes in their curries?
gualdhar: scalloped is great, but pan roasted with butter and garlic is also pretty damn good
chand3123k: I haven’t had shoe string enough to say if that is good.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @AceGun_ They are meaning unseasoned
munocard: @AceGun_ I slightly brown my potatoes first for curry.
Mai_Andra: 0-2 milkshake
Thefluffiestguineapig: @chand3123k The fry shape? it is really hard to get right
TXC2:
really thought Adam was gonna talk about the world cup there for some reason 
Vinewood_OG: Home made loaded potato skins
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TXC2 I got really excited and also baffled there
LowUpsideCJ: the online local reminded me to get back into fighting games
Mr_Horrible: was that knuckle drop a distance thing or a timing thing?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Vinewood_OG 10/10
LowUpsideCJ: I’m in my training arc
Mr_Horrible: it looked like the bounce didn't bring them back close enough?
Zaneysed: That's been me all day man, I feel you about lacking to convert
Thefluffiestguineapig: Who in chat is this Terry?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Or is it a SeaChats staple?
Mai_Andra: is that the new "who on earth?!" "who in the world?" "who in chat?!"
Mr_Horrible: "I'll anti-air you in a unique and unsettling way" me, really scared: "just the normal anti-air, please"
RoboIcarus: ggs
RoboIcarus: @Thefluffiestguineapig me
LMAOkai_: i love humble pie
AceGun_: Nelly needs to join the Discord "local", so he can win himself a Costco hot dog.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Mai_Andra No, I just haven’t been as regular in watching Oki Oki since Terry came out so I don’t know who plays who necessarily
Mr_Horrible:
yum yum 
TXC2: thanks for streaming Adam and Nelson
ghizmou: humble pie pairs well with ice cream
MrSarkhan:

TXC2: is the humble pie sweet or savoury?
Mr_Horrible: @AceGun_ that's the prize? Goddamn, ambicross even more goated than I thought
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Mr_Horrible Is that similar to when in my veterinary medicine profession we are saying “I just wanted normal GI upset”
LMAOkai_: not every day is going to be a good day unfortunately
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Thefluffiestguineapig: @TXC2 Might depend on how much you needed to eat, if you ate more it is the kind you like less
AceGun_: @Mr_Horrible no the winner gets a bounty placed on their head. That's what you get if you beat Drizzt or CanadianBacon right now.
Mr_Horrible: Amogus screen: "Adam was not the imposter"
TXC2: Thefluffiestguineapig ah I see
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Thefluffiestguineapig: @AceGun_ Is the bounty for all the applause?
Mr_Horrible: @AceGun_ honestly even better
LowUpsideCJ: later skaters
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Thefluffiestguineapig: or if you can make drizzt shout comedically for help in chat do you get bonus points on your bounty?
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kingandcommoner: !quote
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TXC2: CONTACT
lightfut: And we're back
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RockPusher: He's outta line, but he's right…
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TXC2: there are people who make Hentai who have better understandings if anatomy then Beej does
TXC2: *of
kingandcommoner: I think you're just thinking of the wrong hole
TXC2: TODAY!
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TXC2:
kingandcommoner I usually am 
DoodlestheGreat: Can we get that in writing, Paul?
RockPusher: Sudden outbreaks of journalism
TXC2: hello Heather, Paul and Beej
TXC2:
"so nice we don't have to do Journalism" said the New York Times 
TXC2: having a primary source
Foxmar320:

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RockPusher: Playing the role of the journalist rather than of the comedian
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeah, that was interesting to see
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LupusNoctis: mmmm sammich
KenKopin: News Adjacent
TXC2: newsration
radiowasabi2014: and we eat our sammiches
RockPusher: Much like The Daily Show, we are here to make jokes, pay no attention to the journalistic integrity!
Thefluffiestguineapig: Tasty looking sammich
TXC2: aftershow for Checkpoint+
TXC2: and then Covid happened
Thefluffiestguineapig: The fact you might have a higher level of integrity than a lot of places for video game news is a poor reflection on them and a good reflection on you?
TXC2: BREAKING NEWS: Sandwich good, scientist baffled
DoodlestheGreat: I know a place in San Diego, Richard Walker's Pancake House, that has the same hours. And it's equally good.
RockPusher: Which sandwich is it?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Hope it keeps him amused
TheAwkes: A good old fashioned Dorfenrad.
Foxmar320: other than a hover bike I didn’t build much
Thefluffiestguineapig: It was much less Besiege coded than people like me wanted
kingandcommoner: The idea of having to restart from no crafting materials is the main reason I have no desire to replay TotK
RockPusher:
Today on Beej Ate The Whole Thing 
Foxmar320: X
BusTed: fell that tree!
Bruceski: Those trees are Yiga in tree suits
RockPusher: Paul simulated logdriver
TXC2: claiming castle doctrine against a tree
RockPusher:
You get the
out the way is what you do about it
RockPusher: however it is you achieve that
mtvcdm: "magic" with a k
Invitare: I fear it has a tendency to return
mtvcdm: Oh, you can uninstall Copilot? Brb uninstalling Copilot
mtvcdm: I thought you couldn't uninstall it
Thefluffiestguineapig: As opposed to Mac where you can’t uninstall a lot of things
Juliamon: you can uninstall it but it doesn't stay uninstalled
Juliamon: a temporary reprieve that returns ever Patch Tuesday
Vinewood_OG: Windows classic shell FTW
TXC2:
and now these days Task manager crashes 
TheMerricat: @Juliamon You _can_ remove it permanently but it requires extra steps. You have to regedit or use GPO to edit your 'group policies' to disable it.
SocraticMethod: Task manager only shows userspace processes, you need resource manager as admin to see kernerspace processes (like windows defender silently eating all the resources)
RockPusher: The Windows team I don't think has been run by OS people for many a year
TheMerricat: So the contrary voice here, I understand why Microsoft hid/gated a lot of stuff that used to be bare to the user. It's the cupholder syndrome, the more people using your OS, the more people out there who are computer illiterate enough that they'll push that one button that hoses their PC and blame you for putting the button there.
munocard: The worst is clicking on Devices and Printers in Control Panel opens the new Settings menu, and then you have to go into Devices "More Device and Printer Settings" to get into the Control Panel Printer menu.
Laserbeaks_Fury: You hold the mouse up to your mouth and say "Computer?"
RockPusher: The very concept of files is a quaint old thing for many
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TheMerricat On the other hand Mac prevents people from deleting chess, safari and their Photo Booth because of weird ideas about essential programs
Thefluffiestguineapig: Is there a way to open the “resource manager” on a Mac?
TheMerricat: @Thefluffiestguineapig Pretty much since the advent of the iWhatever Apple has been unapologetic about forcing you to live in _their_ vision of the world, rather than letting you have _your_ vision.
RockPusher: Plus the Windows telemetry is already shipping that to MS
LordZarano: Gemini can't even set timers, I had to switch it back to Google Assistant to reenable setting timers and recognising music
RockPusher: Windows Management Instrumentation
LordZarano: (And thank goodness they let you disable Gemini and go back to assistant)
Thefluffiestguineapig: For now they let you disable it
TheMerricat: @LordZarano I am so pissed that Google Home on my phone keeps telling me I need to 'upgrade' to Gemini given 90% of what I asked it to do when I tried it it told me it didn't understand and the remaining 10% I could do far easier using Assistant.
Strebenherz: Oh so that wasn't a bit?
BusTed:

ContingentCat: I blame Bartleby
TheMerricat: And it's a huge resource hog in an era where RAM costs the same as a house.
RockPusher: All the insecurity of the web *and* desktop combined!
accountmadeforants: @TheMerricat Google's assistants have only ever regressed since Google Now.
TheMerricat: @accountmadeforants 100%
kingandcommoner: because internet explorer was too crappy to save
Laserbeaks_Fury: i DONT THINK YOU CAN EVEN UNINSTALL eDGE ON w11
Laserbeaks_Fury: Oops
TheMerricat: _AND_ it obfuscates it's process name as "browser" to ensure you don't kill the process.
accountmadeforants: @TheMerricat I did learn that they finally reinvented Now On Tap (i.e., it can interpret whatever's on your screen and do translation or searching) only about ten years or so after they killed it.
RockPusher: Remember when the US government fined MS for making IE a part of the OS. Pepperidge Farm remembers.
TXC2: yeap, edge still runs even when you close it, you have to go in and kill the process
LordZarano: Edge has the best built-in browser game edge://surf
kingandcommoner: and this is why I still have 10
RockPusher: Lately‽
TXC2:
kingandcommoner yeap, that and I can't afford a PC that can run 11 
accountmadeforants: "It's very important!"
kingandcommoner: "Oh I'm sorry, you're correct. That is Me. In every way that matters. Do you really want to end me?"
kingandcommoner: -Copilot probably
saiarcot895: "What process? I don't see any process there."
TXC2: kingandcommoner yes
ContingentCat: definitly a learning curve there yeah
RubikDarkwill: How easy is it to cast on?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Similar with knitting
Marvoleath: There is also a Stardew Valley MTG Secret Lair coming
Marvoleath: so a bunch of cross-overs for Stardew?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Marvoleath This could be a joke or not, I genuinely can’t tell
LordZarano: "crocheter Noun One who crochets"
TXC2:
the Stardew valley Military powerpoint presentation 
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Marvoleath I hate all of that
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TXC2 In the US they would make the current administration mad so I’m all for it
ContingentCat: Start learning to crochet now to be ready then
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeah, the accessories get wild
Thefluffiestguineapig:
Yeah, Lego is less expensive 
CaptainSpam: Similar to the Pac-Man cabinet Lego set?
CaptainSpam: It is, yep. Good stuff.
CaptainSpam: That extra bit is hidden in the back.
CaptainSpam: Like, it's a hidden extra inside the "cabinet" part.
RockPusher: A smol diorama
RockPusher: The crank on the side will cause movement
Laserbeaks_Fury: Tom Servo?
CaptainSpam: There's a crank that makes Pac-Man and the ghosts run around a track inside the "game".
CaptainSpam: The stick just... well, moves.
DaxStrife: Looks like a gumball machine?
mtvcdm: You're making content
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Laserbeaks_Fury: Yeah, that's just Tom Servo's head
RubikDarkwill: Early streaming? So live TV?
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ContingentCat: Penelope
ContingentCat: and Nelly's kids
Marvoleath: Like Pratchett's cameras - a small imp in the camera draws what they see on a photo
kingandcommoner: Lying to children is okay when it's funny
Laserbeaks_Fury: Nintendo Power had you take Polaroid's of your screens for Hi-Scores
TheMerricat:
Chat I'm imagining Beej just doing an anime roundup in the middle of a grocery store and all the mom's covering the kid's ears. 
TXC2:
y'all can afford groceries? 
Vinewood_OG: "Hey kids, it's Sonic's 30th anniversary!"
TXC2: C.A.R.D.S.
mtvcdm: Whoever picked out the image of a Mickey Mantle rookie card in a bicycle spoke, you caused me physical pain and good work
TheMerricat: Next Year chat, WoTC announces an NVIDIA UB set...
kingandcommoner: G-Force? The Movie with the gerbil spies?
TXC2: TheMerricat could be worse, he could be doing "can I show my parents this anime"
TheMerricat:
@TXC2 
Julian_Rogue:
I miss when graphics cards came with waifu's on the sides 
Vinewood_OG: This decade suuucks.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Can I trade them for Steam cards?
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Julian_Rogue: @Vinewood_OG I wanted the rwaring 20's but I don't think we're getting that
TheMerricat: I'm just wondering which card they use for this little bit of history: "Nvidia started with a vision to bring 3D graphics to personal computers. However, their first product—the NV1 (1995)—was a commercial failure because it ignored the emerging Microsoft DirectX standard."
CaptainSpam: "Man, I remember the days watching each individual byte of the four megabytes of RAM flowing in and out of that video card all day."
TXC2: Julian_Rogue or came with games with waifus on the side
LordZarano: nVidia's tech demos were pretty cool, back in the day
TheMerricat:
I was 3DFX till they went bye bye. 
Julian_Rogue:
I remember when audio was its own seperate upgrade 
TXC2:
I still have a 1050 
Akaiatana: Your card is showing its age, but aren't we all?
Marvoleath: doesnt Switch run on nVidia tech?
TheMerricat:
@Julian_Rogue They still make discrete sound cards (usually external and connected via USB) for folk who are snobs about eh whine that their motherboard (they claim) introductes into the stream. 
kingandcommoner: I had a 1080 running until like 2 years ago
Julian_Rogue: Speaking of price drops. ya'll see that IBM stock tanked the worst ever?
mtvcdm: At auction in 2022, one of those cards sold for $12.6 million
kingandcommoner: that's how the stock market works
Vinewood_OG: Except spacex stonks
ArtDecoSunburn: @Julian_Rogue Yeah, bonkers. The AI bubble having tertiary ripples.
Julian_Rogue: @TheMerricat My moboard was so noisy my friends on discord demanded I get a new headset. when I use the wireless one its so much better. but the wired one you could hear the USB bus next to chatter. or so they told me.
TheMerricat:
@Julian_Rogue 
ArtDecoSunburn: Cards come up hand in hand with addictive habits. Remember trading cards started as tobacco cards.
TXC2: a casual link between ingame effect and price
mtvcdm: Baseball cards are just weird now, streamers buy entire boxes, they split the sports league up into its constituent teams, they auction off the teams, and then they stream them cracking the box and whoever 'owns' the team gets any cards opened from that team
mtvcdm: And you're buying the team hoping a really valuable card from that team comes out. Basically..... gambling.
TXC2: *causal
ArtDecoSunburn: @mtvcdm And then the loser gets the Cleveland Brown cards?
mtvcdm: Oh no they auction off the Browns like everyone else
CaptainSpam: @Julian_Rogue I mean... from the looks of it, the price is... just back to what it was like a month ago?
ArtDecoSunburn: (Yes, I knowthat's football.)
TheMerricat: @mtvcdm cue "Always has been".jpg
OldUncleDan: Burn the Reserve List!
TheMerricat: Scalpers would buy ever single one before the public could ever see one.
mtvcdm: Oh yeah, those cards would never actually see a store
mtvcdm: The resale market doesn't care what they were originally printed for
TheMerricat: "Most Tim Hortons hockey cards are worth between $0.50 and $5.00. Base and common insert cards generally hold minimal resale value. However, rare chase cards—such as autographed cards, jersey relics, or rookie cards for players like Auston Matthews and Connor Bedard—can command anywhere from $30 to over $1,000."
Julian_Rogue: everythings a fiat currency if everyone beleives hard enough
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ArtDecoSunburn: @Julian_Rogue One man's Matisse is another's Tim Horton's hockey card.
mtvcdm: I collect oddball sports memorabilia myself... I've taken some cards myself but mainly a comically oversized series from the late 70's.
ContingentCat: apparently the women's players were a more rare among the Tim's cards so that might have a amusing effect of them being more valuble
TXC2:
Julian_Rogue that sounds like bartering with extra steps 
Julian_Rogue: @TXC2 No because these are non-spongeable tokens. They can't be cleaned.
TheMerricat: IIRC there is a huge 'Happy Meal Toys' market out there for old happy meal toys.
mtvcdm: Oh yeah, I remember the gum
Vinewood_OG: How was it?
RubikDarkwill: And Kathleen and Graham HAD SOME OF THE GUM
Julian_Rogue: @RubikDarkwill the joke I want to make is too dark for LRR chat
mtvcdm: @TheMerricat I see bins of old Happy Meal toys at antique stores for a buck a pop
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheMerricat Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
TheMerricat:
@mtvcdm Opportunity!!! 
Julian_Rogue:
@ArtDecoSunburn When the present sucks so much. It makes it that much more addicting. It's my biggest addiction 
Foxmar320: yeah the Bungie news keeps happening
Julian_Rogue: but no dating sim
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I wanted to date the traveler or the witness. so many hands. 
ArtDecoSunburn: @Julian_Rogue Huffing the past. I can understand the appeal.
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheMerricat Arbitrage the difference between physical antique shops and online collector forums.
Julian_Rogue: @ArtDecoSunburn I mean. Like. also look at "the backrooms" or the whole "analog horror" aesthetic. I'd argue that is built mostly on nistolgia in a constructive way that's not just "member berries" from southpark
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TXC2:
it's still wild to me that Naughty dog made both the crash banidcoot games, and the last of us games 
ArtDecoSunburn: @Julian_Rogue Literally adding imagined value to remembered spaces on two levels. Hmm. Interesting.
TXC2: Mythdom congrats on 100
Julian_Rogue:
reboot Halo 
ArtDecoSunburn: @Julian_Rogue Reboot Pong!
TheMerricat:
Meanwhile BethesdaSoft apparently went on a media blitz just after Checkpoint released. All the usual suspect reddits I was checking this morning have individualized "announcement" posts from Bethesda assuring everyone that they weren't abandoning that specific property. And apparently Jason Schreier made a video post about how Bethesda finally removed his blacklisting from leaking FO4 news during Kotaku and an interview with Todd Howard... You think Bethesda saw Checkpoint and got nervous? 
Julian_Rogue: @TheMerricat I'm so stoked. fallout 3 and NV offically announced to be remade and 5 in pre-production. I was vibrating reading the posts.
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheMerricat LRR as a media titan, like Hearst in Cuba?
Julian_Rogue: @ArtDecoSunburn LRR is more like a Media Jeager? or Media Megazord?
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DoodlestheGreat: @Julian_Rogue Where are these posts? I'd like to read them.
TheMerricat: Chat, I've been thinking about it for a while and everyone has had a problem coming up with a name for what happened to D2. You think saying it's been moved to LTS is accurate?
Julian_Rogue: @DoodlestheGreat I saw mine on various Fallout Related Facebook groups.
ghyllnox: 2003 or 2023?
ghyllnox: Gotcha
ArtDecoSunburn: @Julian_Rogue Well, Joseph Pulitzer was secretely a flying moth, so why not have media outlets as giant battling monsters? Godzilla roars would suit Henry Luce, William Paley, and Katherine Graham well.
Julian_Rogue: same with Marvel movies and End game.
TheMerricat: I feel like Sony was just doing a Krafton but more 'intelligently' they wanted Bungie for a name and property, they didn't necessarily want the people who made the name and properites.
BrowneePointz: and apparently when they DID get flush at points of the game's history, Execs pissed the money away
Foxmar320: they needed that big studio expansion that went unused
Foxmar320: also Pete needed more cars
TXC2: Uber game stop eats
Vinewood_OG: Do they agressively push preordering meals for next year?
couchboyj: So, Funko Pop delivery?
kingandcommoner: Stuber Eats
TheMerricat: Chat, I think the last time I used one of those delivery services was 2020... is Uber Eats the current 'king' of the contenders? I know that it used to be everyone Doordashed.
ErynTzun rolls into chat
Decaped: Tangentially, I'm noticing how many long running games I play that are owned by Tencent, simply because they other ones keep fucking up and shuttering.
TXC2: hello ErynTzun welcome
ErynTzun: oh hai
TheMerricat:
@ErynTzun 
kingandcommoner: I'm on the Funko Pop diet. This is actually very helpful
ArtDecoSunburn: @kingandcommoner Rubbery?
wildpeaks: tiny discs
TheMerricat: They are using SSD, old cheap ones
Julian_Rogue: He turned SSD's into big cartridges its neat
RubikDarkwill: old, small SSDs apparently
Marvoleath: Not sure if that's a global phenomenon, but uber eats and similar services here deliver a lot of sex-shops' inventories
wildpeaks: like autoplay cds
TheMerricat: $8 USD a pop he says in the article.
ArtDecoSunburn: @Marvoleath Dinner and a show?
TXC2:
everything old is new again, invent hot swapable removeable SSDs 
ContingentCat: uber eats I don't like, but really more retail places having that kind of immediate delivery can be good, it's accessibility as well as I don't like going into most stores
ErynTzun: SSDs are very expensive right now, I kept all of mine that didn't die and use them like I used to use flash drives.
ErynTzun: Anything large is on one of my rigs
Vinewood_OG: Seek help
ErynTzun: I mean it makes sense we already have Best Buy on Door Dash
spethycakes: It was very effectively done
Vinewood_OG: None pizza left? Beef.
LordZarano: None pizza left beef still makes me laugh. The image is SO GOOD
mtvcdm: It's showtime, this is what we got
TXC2: right chat I'm off
ErynTzun: @TXC2 Can just leave a SATA dock plugged into any computer and plug them in, the same for NVMe they make docks for them. I have tool less enclosures for mine to use in a pinch too.
RockPusher: 'night TXC2
TXC2: Goodnight everybody, and thanks for streaming Heather, Paul and Beej
ErynTzun: The University of Silicon Valley (USV) is a private for-profit university in San Jose, California, in Silicon Valley. The school was founded in 1887 as Cogswell Technical School, and later known as Cogswell Polytechnical College. It was the first technical training institution in the Western United States and one of only two private universities, along with Stanford University, that were originally guaranteed a tax exemption in the California Constitution.
TXC2: ErynTzun ooo neat
Thefluffiestguineapig: -.-
mtvcdm: Founded in 1887
ArtDecoSunburn: Ugh. For profit schools.
Thefluffiestguineapig: I am really very not impressed
mtvcdm: Someone absolutely made this to get students to sign up
wildpeaks: achievement unlocked: scholarship
Thefluffiestguineapig: You can pay someone to do this
TheMerricat:
No one tell these folk about Steam Achievement Manager. 
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mtvcdm: This feels like those times when you hear of some college or other offering a course on Selena Gomez or whatever
AshBurnem: Getting all achievements in Minecraft is an *ordeal*
Vinewood_OG: Where's my doctorate?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also that Heather
Foxmar320: The one for Destiny 2 is also a pain
TheMerricat: @Thefluffiestguineapig You don't even need to pay for that, most Steam Achievements can be triggered just using an app that knows the Steam protocol.
ErynTzun: The University of Silicon Valley was founded as a high school on March 19, 1887, by Henry D. Cogswell in San Francisco. It opened in August 1888, offering technical classes for boys and business classes for girls. On June 30, 1930, it became a technical college. It was the first technical training institution in the Western United States.
ErynTzun: ಠ_ಠ business classes for girls
Foxmar320: And Uno
mtvcdm: Some of these designer pop-culture courses do have a deeper, there's actually a lot of stuff to dig into here beyond the surface matter. This doesn't seem like one of them.
Barb4rian: THey did chievos on Mine O Clock
lamina5432: the three did all but one full achievo run
LordZarano: Almost. They did all advancements except 1
ArtDecoSunburn: The Siemens Westinghouse Fair does. It's a feeder for kids who intend to go into science academia.
Thefluffiestguineapig: But none of those games are E Sports games
Foxmar320: For the Destiny 2 one you need really good friends and also the ability to be really good by yourself lol
Foxmar320: 2 distinct Raid Seals + 1 Solo Flawless Dungeon
mtvcdm: If these kids can beat Battletoads on one quarter THEN I'll hand em a degree
ArtDecoSunburn: Like drawing the pirate on the back of the matchbook to get into shady art schools.
TheMerricat:
@mtvcdm Hardmode, they have to have a P2 as well. 
ErynTzun: 200% Poop find completion way harder. Korok Seeds — 900 Total
mtvcdm: If this was DigiPen handing this out you'd have more of my attention
TheMerricat: Super easy.
Foxmar320: The Steam one is super easy
CaptainSpam: Having just looked it up, keep in mind that "University of Silicon Valley" is not the same as "Silicon Valley University". The latter appears to be referred to in the past tense.
TheMerricat:
Just don't try it with Vampire Survivors, because every time you get a perfect game on it, they'll add new content. 
Thefluffiestguineapig: The first one there’s a prophecy that’s time based and just RNG
mtvcdm: Adam's really good at Spheda, is there an athletic scholarship
TheMerricat: @CaptainSpam " The University of Silicon Valley is a private for-profit university in San Jose, California, in Silicon Valley. The school was founded in 1887 as Cogswell Technical School, and later known as Cogswell Polytechnical College." - sounds like they are maybe chasing something....
ErynTzun: Beat Saber All Expert+ songs S-ranked (base + DLC) Oculus / SteamVR profile + screenshot Motor coordination and rhythmic precision - Actual sweat involved
wildpeaks:
100% completion in vampire survivors seems tricky given they keep releasing dlcs 
TheMerricat:
@wildpeaks I _had_ 100% in Vampire Survivors twice! TWICE. They kept rug pulling me. 
wildpeaks:
right ?? 
ArtDecoSunburn: @wildpeaks "Sorry. We must retract your scholarship -- new fang expansion and skin just dropped."
wildpeaks:

kingandcommoner: If you want to learn coding, I suggest Cult of the Lamb. Learning to be efficient with your black magic isvery useful
TheMerricat: So chat ignoring all their categories... this is the part that blows my mind and makes me think this is more of a gimmick than an actual deal - "Weighted scoring determines award amount (60% achievement, 20% essay, 20% academics)."
ErynTzun: @TheMerricat That's the first result that Duck Duck go brings up when I input "Silicon Valley University", which is really annoying gotta scroll down to find "Silicon Valley University" under University of Silicon Valley result, both their website and the Wikipedia page.
wildpeaks: oh it's definitely a gimmick because they know it will get them free advertisement in their target audience
ErynTzun:
Silicon Valley University Motto University Caters To Silicon Valley Type Private/Not accredited Active 1997–2018 Location San Jose , California , US Website http://www.svuca.org/
ErynTzun:
And I have DuckAI turned off 
mtvcdm: Sometimes you gotta go just pay your car insurance, it's not fun but if you want to keep driving a car...
TheMerricat:
@mtvcdm you must not live near me. 
Lord_Hosk: And often times you will have to work with people you don't want to work with and they won't put in as much effort as you think they should
TheMerricat:
@TheMerricat I play a game every time I do the 10 minute drive to walmart - "Count the number of cars I'm behind that have paper temp license 'plates' that have been expired for a year...." 
TheMerricat:
Beej confirmed manager personality type. 
ErynTzun: They must get a lot of tickets
Bruceski: In my physics classes there were some problems described as "and I could explain how to do this but at this point you should go grab the nearest mathematician and..."
gualdhar: Visual Basic for Apps was a pretty common programming language for excel data crunching for a while
wildpeaks: python is the new VB
TheMerricat:
@wildpeaks Isn't Python the _old_ VB? 
mtvcdm: The funny thing is when I did college, I went to four different campuses in three different cities and commuted home every day. Dorms were not a thing.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeah, but that’s not how anything works. they don’t even give people chances to do anything without years of experience
Lord_Hosk: You will be digging a big hole James
FuzzRaTheBarelyLiving: @Bruceski I've known enough physicists to know that all the gnarly sums wreck the ability to do the simple ones.
wildpeaks: this is why I play flower picking
kingandcommoner: IDK, minesweeper at least ends quickly
TheMerricat: @Thefluffiestguineapig Reminds me of all the job openings I keep seeing that require x+1 years of experience for platforms that have only been out for x-1 years.
TehAmelie: me, playing DRG Survivor right now: "so close"
Thefluffiestguineapig: @themerricat Yeah the intro position doesn’t exist any more. they want you to have volunteered in high school and done internships and shit
LordZarano: Most of the Minecraft advancements require flying around the world to find different biomes and structures, and surprisingly little mining
DoodlestheGreat: Oh boy...
lamina5432: did you see crunchyroll also owned by sony is cutting back on physical anime sales?
wildpeaks: "oh no"
mtvcdm: help
Thefluffiestguineapig: The moment of getoutohshitfuckdamnit
LordZarano: Is this the fabled "ratioed"?
BrowneePointz: yep they did a tokon post a couple days ago
BrowneePointz: 5k comments
mtvcdm: This is going to become the CM Punk chant of Sony's life
Thefluffiestguineapig: HAHAHAHAHA
Thefluffiestguineapig: Oh that does suck for them
Thefluffiestguineapig: @mtvcdm ^Yuuuuuuuuuuuup
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also games/movies people theoretically owned being removed from their libraries
kingandcommoner: imagine if we could have gotten this pissed about chick fil a
mtvcdm: 'You're not going to Nintendo, you think that's kid stuff, eff you'
Thefluffiestguineapig: @mtvcdm But they might buy the new steam thing
Marvoleath:
it will support external drives 
lamina5432: Saw a youtube essay about E3 being the testing ground we are missing so when stuff like this happens the audience can boo company's off the stage
RubikDarkwill: Sony ultimately decides if PS6 can have a disc drive
Thefluffiestguineapig: The internet speed thing is a real consideration
LordZarano: @Thefluffiestguineapig If they're concerned about digital only, that would not be a smart move
Thefluffiestguineapig: @LordZarano What, if it's digital only then everything needs to be downloaded
Strebenherz:
@lamina5432 
lamina5432: I would agree if we could trust sony to keep the online library's integrity
Thefluffiestguineapig: @lamina5432 Which we can't
LordZarano: Minecraft is sold in stores on the gift card rack, as a gift card
Invitare: it might do
Invitare: Rockstar is in the UK. We don't have many skiing accidents here
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Invitare You do have CEOs who have very few brain cells
Invitare: @Thefluffiestguineapig So does everyone. That's a requirement for being a CEO
Thefluffiestguineapig: Or it doesn't have to be disks
ErynTzun: Doesn't even need to be weird USB to Blu-ray is a thing, just needs toe correct firmware and drivers.
Thefluffiestguineapig: I would argue moving to something less like a disk people would be more willing to buy it
TheMerricat: The entire failure of Beej's argument, is that not a single 'big' company publishing games for Sony _want_ physical disks. If they did, they wouldn't all be releasing games on Denuvo and etc. the death of the disc means the death of game reselling.
ErynTzun: And Sony made fun of that
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TheMerricat Which is what they really want, they don't want people to share games or re-sell. They want everyone to be FORCED to buy an individual copy
ErynTzun: Disc to Keycard license?
realbadatthis_: need to start workshopping a "I have 6 PS6's, but they got no discs" doctor seuss rhyme
Thefluffiestguineapig: Worse
Strebenherz: oh boy! that sounds... terrible
EvilBadman: I am a lazy guy who hates finding disc for a game I randomly get the urge to play so this sounds...fine?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeah the retroactive thing so if you ripped a disk it would be taken
ErynTzun: This is why i rip all my media and avoid paying for streaming tv and movies
TheMerricat:
So chat, this has nothing to do with Chillpoint but I'm dying laughing ATM. I had the choice of buying a 'traditional' sized canister or a 5lb bag of Cumin from Amazon this week to restock. The 5lb bag was only $20 which was only about twice as much as the regular sized containers... It just arrived during Chill point... I severely underestimated how MUCH Cumin is 5lb of cumin.
I have a container I normally store 2 20lb bags of flour in completely full of cumin now. 
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TheMerricat Yeah, it's a restaurant restock worth. Have fun with that friend
kingandcommoner: @TheMerricat rent a stall at a farmers market and make a proft
TheMerricat:
@Thefluffiestguineapig 
Thefluffiestguineapig: No, I think the argument that this is trying to end re-selling games, sharing physical media and forcing people to buy their own copies is legitimate
LordZarano: What do they think the person selling games second hand spends that money on? Cause the answer is more games, usually
Thefluffiestguineapig: Oh this will be silly possibly
ErynTzun: @kingandcommoner Otherwise how would you use it before it expires? lol
Thefluffiestguineapig: Or very sad
Thefluffiestguineapig: Shocking, fights with unions? NO
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Thefluffiestguineapig: Yeah, that tracks
Vinewood_OG: Unoptomized spyware
TheMerricat: God this news really wants me to make a currently relevant #politics joke. But I'll bite my tongue.
Vinewood_OG: Right to jail.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Vinewood_OG So most spyware you get on the cheap?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TheMerricat Same
Thefluffiestguineapig: And you could have accepted it
LordZarano: Could've tried to do a No Man's Sky, but nope, too delusional
wildpeaks: oh yeah it looked cool
wildpeaks: oh
BusTed: fun
ghyllnox: Oh god
niccus: if you see <old well-known game> suddenly get an in-browser version, there's a pretty good chance it was vibed and something will feel very off
James_the_Dabbler: @TheMerricat Man the people who did the vibecoding are just... so ethically questionable
LordZarano: 2048 was someone's coding practice that they put on github. It's wild that it got as popular as it did
wildpeaks: kinda like the bodycam game, the game from the original concept came after the clone
TheMerricat: this is one of the things that people need to remember. Game _rules_ can't be copyrighted. You can copyright the code, you can copyright the art. You can Trademark stuff. But anyone is allowed to come along and use your idea to make their own version of your game based on their own work. This has always been the case, but AI is an accelerant for the problem.
TheMerricat: Patent. That's what you are thinking of Paul. Not copyright.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Due to Disney
Thefluffiestguineapig: That might be trademark
lamina5432: copywriting game mechanics is also complex since it hasn't been treated well
Thefluffiestguineapig: My expectation is probably is we are in that era Paul
TehAmelie: i'm sure happy all the game ideas i've elabroated on online are too involved and specific for someone to make with vibes
TheMerricat: The one silverlining in this story is the point that is made in the article that _all_ of the copies were shit.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Big companies scrape social media for it
LordZarano: What was that company whose patent prevented loading screen games from being a thing for all the time it would've been useful?
BusTed:

wildpeaks: ah yes, the data harvesting app
Thefluffiestguineapig: And I forget which anniversary of the Saudi's buying it
mtvcdm: When Pokemon Go came out it was so big that LRR made an actual sketch about it
TheMerricat: @LordZarano "Before november 2015 Bandai Namco held the patent for "auxiliary games", basicly minigames, during loading screens. These auxiliary games are games that do not represent the core gameplay or use different code than of the main game. Namco used this patent in their PS1 games where the player played a classic Namco game while the game loaded. :"
BusTed: That's cool
Thefluffiestguineapig: Oh that's rad
wildpeaks: that's cute
BusTed: That does explain the mega mewtwo raids from NYC that night
TheMerricat: That sounds like it'd be huge expense.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TheMerricat They can afford it with all the micro and macro transactions
radiowasabi2014: oh yeah just recent news, Tencent is shutting down the Chinese only Final Fantasy XIV mobile version.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @radiowasabi2014 shocking. this is my shocked face
Thefluffiestguineapig: It was already super mercenary
Thefluffiestguineapig: My guess is 10m is low ball
ErynTzun: That sounds like a personal hell to me, I've been in a big crowd here in MN for fairs and things and I am too small for that sort of thing, people will crush you.
Bionull: Was access restricted or were most of the people random tourists who didn't know what the event was?
ErynTzun: If I were a bigger taller person it might not be as bad but the crowd can completely envelop you and that is not good
BusTed: Yeah, they highly incentivize getting out and walking
realbadatthis_: I believe it was a planned pogo influencer invite kinda thing
Mr_Horrible: it's documented, even!
Thefluffiestguineapig: On the one hand ok, but on the other having local PoGo Fest events was also a big thing
Kurintoi: They were selling the data right?
ErynTzun: Ingress was doing it before that, and walking specific routes
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Kurintoi I don't think they ever stopped
Thefluffiestguineapig: There was an issue with people in the Pentagon at a Pokestop
ghyllnox: You? Beej? Being cynical?
ErynTzun: Not building a map, but by taking portals and building a giant grid to cover an area larger than the opposing team.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Certain raids they forced it to the point you HAD to have other people even if it was a second account
ErynTzun: And Ingress developers used to be Google Maps developers it started with Post offices and things like that as portals before they began allowing User Portal submissions, and eventually user approvals of portals.
BusTed: I did a fair bit of traveling and attended meetups back in my Ingress days
BusTed: Lots more coordination was needed in that game
ErynTzun: Pokemon does require coordination if you want to do those big Gyms, but it's nothing like trying to take an entire area and cover a map by connecting portals, sometimes across countries, across the top of the planet even.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Keep in mind I haven't played in over a year once the sale went through
ErynTzun: Serious Ingress players on another level willing to cross countries and pass keys to people to get that done
BusTed: Yeah, there were some wild ops
Thefluffiestguineapig: Back when I was playing it had become a microtransaction nightmare
lamina5432: world is grey
ErynTzun: I just ignored the micro transactions, I didn't need them to get gear, and then Covid happened and it didn't matter anymore
LordZarano: Nuance!
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Thefluffiestguineapig: @ErynTzun Oh this was post COVID for the Go fest stuff. You needed the passes to get specific pokemon that were locked behind them
ErynTzun: Beanie Adjacent of Body
wildpeaks: everything can be a hat if you're brave enouch
ErynTzun:
@Thefluffiestguineapig Oh yeah Pogo is much worse about that stuff 
iconicshadow89: turn this bat into a most delightful hat
BusTed: put that on the blurb
mtvcdm: !addquote (Beej) [now] It's winter o'clock somewhere.
LRRbot: New quote #9619: "It's winter o'clock somewhere." —Beej [2026-07-17]
ErynTzun:

ErynTzun: Did they seal all of NY in thar?
BusTed: haha
Thefluffiestguineapig: Or use a hat to help filter the horrible contaminants from the wildfires. We're getting them in the Midwest US and it was all the way into UNSAFE DO NOT GO OUTSIDE this morning for air quality
goatprince: with a BIG apple
BusTed: 3 AM
ErynTzun: Just stuff the X-Mansion in there would have been enough
mtvcdm: The streets will make you feel brand new, the lights will inspire you
Strebenherz: @Thefluffiestguineapig woo guilt tree stay the f inside time!
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ErynTzun It's in upper NY State
TehAmelie: somewhere, "Fairy Tale of New York" plays
Mr_Horrible: just in time for the DLC to drop in like 10 days
goatprince: i'm gonna release the lions
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Strebenherz No, blowing down from Canada
ErynTzun: @Thefluffiestguineapig Asthma and allergy sufferer in MN I concur Outside is NO. Mask 5ever
BusTed: 🎢
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ErynTzun Yeah, I've been wearing some of my leftover masks but I help walk a dog
ErynTzun: Forecast has been Smoke 100F, not fond of this.
Mr_Horrible: sweet
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ErynTzun Yeah, for my area not quite that but possibly with the heat index
mtvcdm: Oh yes this
Mr_Horrible: true CanCon
mtvcdm: Heather and Cori did this for three streams
Thefluffiestguineapig: But for real: check the forecast people! See if it is safe to even open your windows
Thefluffiestguineapig: It was a thing
mtvcdm: no
mtvcdm: no they won't
Thefluffiestguineapig: No
Bruceski: If you ask any girl from the parish around...
goatprince:

Thefluffiestguineapig:

goatprince: am i fired for releasing the lions?????
ErynTzun: @Thefluffiestguineapig I usually take 3 buses home, got rides home the past few days to be safe. Keep the water handy. The only postive is I leave at 5am before it's HELLA hot but the smoke doesn't care
Thefluffiestguineapig: Matt do you remember all the words to the appropriate waltz?
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ErynTzun:
byeeeee
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