TXC2: Title change!
Manae: !next
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TXC2:
Manae 
Manae:
TXC2: CONTACT
JKBalch:
paronomasiac042: life _and_ suffering? you repeat yourself
Juliamon: lllllet's get ready to ssssssufferrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
ShaneLeeAtk: Life is pain, Princess. Anyone that says otherwise is selling something.
TXC2: ^
tdapenguin: I prefer to think of life as something else and the pain as an element of it, not as the overall aspect of it
TXC2: Here we GO!
TehAmelie: ah, i fondly rememeber Billiam Brante
TXC2: hello Cori and Cameron
TehAmelie: oh hi
tdapenguin: Hihi
GhostValv: o/
ZestyFungus: Helloooooo
TXC2: Bless you
GhostValv: salud
TheLadyMakai: bless you
ZestyFungus: Get it out!!
TehAmelie: in your head, in your haead, zombieee
ZestyFungus: Meat prison
TXC2: Con based Edge detection
ghizmou: I left too
Juliamon: Look, we came for suffering
narset6691: ive never seen someone belch out a tooth before
ghizmou: a physical restraint?
TehAmelie: i wonder how much this miserable fantasy world would improve if they just had the band the Cranberries in it
caoinlean: Id love a compilation of cam and cori holding in or actually sneezing or burping in the intro....itd be so funny
TXC2: !patreon
JKBalch: Can we mail you a $5 bill?
AugmentingPath: poob has lrr for you
ZestyFungus: I only accept goobi +
spicyFerret_: Poob has it for you.
saintguard: Send 'em a nice crisp fiver
TehAmelie: i hope in the future twitch will be replaced by witch
TXC2: nah, all the cool kids are on Zoobi now
lightfut: Trackball and trackball accessories
Juliamon: dude there's SO much trackball nostalgia, everyone misses the MSTE days
ShaneLeeAtk:
ZestyFungus: Squish toy mouse ball would be weird
TXC2: "the moment the flaws from a technology are removed, people become nostalgic for them"
TehAmelie: i appreciate you, Cori and Cameron!
TehAmelie: good ol team C&C
narset6691: I remember buying the first after watching you guys play it.
GhostValv:
SnackPak_:
TXC2: oh.....goodie
TXC2: TehAmelie Team Command and Conquer
Juliamon: "this looks like AI, I am going to assault you without any evidence"
TheMerricat: TBF people have been labling things that aren't AI as AI since the whole witchhunt shit has started. I've seen folk posting photos taken in 2000 and being accused of them being AI.
spicyFerret_:
tdapenguin: @TheMerricat Yeah
Juliamon: kids aren't paying for the newest models
TXC2:
is anyone paying for the newest models? 
TehAmelie: @TXC2 yep. every streaming team on LRR needs a name that's also a pop culture reference. it's the law
TXC2: TehAmelie yes
AugmentingPath: One of the problems with AI detection is the same as the issue with making anti-bear infrastructure: there's a lot of overlap between the dumbest camper and the smartest bear
Wolfstrike_NL:
AI aint real, but it can hurt you 
SnackPak_: what...
kingandcommoner: like hoverboards
Juliamon: "AI" is 70 different inventions in a trenchcoat
Juliamon: and none of them are being used correctly
TheMerricat: When I go online to look something up, what I want are sources, not vomited word soup.
Strebenherz: PFFFFFFFFFFT
GhostValv: oof
ladyjessica: it’s information polution
Strebenherz: God dammit that fits accurately
TehAmelie: i think only like 5 inventions, but it's confusing enough
couchboyj: Generative AI always hallucinates, and sometimes has the training data to hallucinate something that reflexts the truth
ghizmou: so you're saying there's hope for AI removal ?
TXC2: hopefully it's more like CFCs
ladyjessica: it’s another pre ww2 steel situation
SnackPak_: the third one
Strebenherz:
don't call it that cori 
AugmentingPath: It's a good thing Alexander died young enough that he didn't rename everything the Gulf of Alexandria
SnackPak_: pls video game
Juliamon: We came here to suffer, not... suffer
TheMerricat: So it came out last year but appearently there was a study published by MIT that showed via brainscans that heavy use of ChatGPT actually had an impact on your brain and how it worked...
Brozard: bibio gaem
Juliamon: Therian
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TehAmelie: Jacko Jerian
Wolfstrike_NL: James Turner
TXC2:
TheMerricat I don't use it, but I genuinely worry that I dream like an "gen AI" video
saintguard: Jarvis Jerian?
ZestyFungus: Squilliam
TXC2: SUB HYPE BEGINS
TheMerricat:
@TXC2 
ghizmou: Prince SS
MenomeAlice: Sausages
TehAmelie: Prince Formerly Known As
SnackPak_: is there unicode for the prince symbol?
TehAmelie: ooh i like it
saintguard: Jilliam is good
AugmentingPath: Maximum Knowledge
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TehAmelie: @SnackPak_ i only know they had to send the symbol out on floppy discs for reviewers to write about him
TheMerricat: @SnackPak_ "Anyway, so the Prince symbol is not eligible for inclusion in Unicode, which “does not encode personal characters, nor does it encode logos.” Still, though, the Unicode geeks on mailing lists have talked about it, charmingly using the shorthand TAFKAP (for The Artist Formerly Known As Prince)."
TXC2: you know, Victory never comes easy, and I',m starting to think she should see a doctor about it.
saintguard: The Tsar Nicholas II approach
BrowneePointz: speaking of historical Politics, I need to watch Jaadugar
TehAmelie: this artwork is stark, i will say
Strebenherz:
@TXC2 
TehAmelie: love a game that has a bit of artistic direction, as opposed to bland high fidelity
saintguard: George C. Scott unintentionally did so much for Patton's historical reputation
GhostValv:
TXC2: apparently it was important that Lincoln had that higher pitched voice, 'cause it tended to raise above everyone else's
TehAmelie: hark, what dull mortal in the morning breaks
kusinohki: meows
TXC2: hello kusinohki welcome
TheMerricat: So to help Cameron's paranoia along, the accusation for AI use on this game was in the art, not the prose. The Art Director has ties to an AI company. @LoadingReadyRun
TehAmelie: okay i retract my compliments on the art
TXC2: has ties =/= used "gen AI"
Juliamon: with how many companies have pivoted to being "an AI company" having ties doesn't mean much
kusinohki: I vaguely remember something about mideival/knights in armor fighting that the best leaders werent the best tactical or strategic thinkers, but the ones with the loudest voice. their commands were the only ones that could be heard...
TehAmelie: you know if they "have ties" they have money put into it, and they very badly want the bubble to not pop yet
TheMerricat: Yeah, I'm not saying they used AI, just clarifying the source of the accusations.
Strebenherz: i mean either way cam/cori offer professional human made nonsense and i'm here for it
ladyjessica: I have to watch cube again
Strebenherz: what
SnackPak_: dream big
saintguard: Dreaming big, like the giraffe
TheLadyMakai: kiddo wants to be a geologist, apparently that's pretty ai proof still thankfully
TXC2: also if you do STEM you MUST also do either a Lit or an ethics course
TehAmelie: yes. . .the dream of the giraffe
saintguard: Naaaaah
TehAmelie: some ten years ago i read a post talking about how STEM would have to evolve into STEAM, the A standing for arts. pity that didn't catch on
pawssumplace: Geology as a science is neat. What a shame how many of them use it to do things like fracking, oil drilling, etc. Please instill your kiddo with good moral compass.
saintguard:
TXC2: isn't obscurity NORMAL for a 4 year old?
TXC2: LETS DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!
SnackPak_: thank you Cori
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TheLadyMakai: @pawssumplace oh he has a good one for sure, he loves the idea of green energy/ animal ethics; atm he just thinks rocks are neat and i love it for him
pawssumplace: Excellent.
richard_ermen: So...how much does this follow from the previous game, you know the fantasy-french-revolution?
TehAmelie: geology is the study of pressure and time, Morgan Freeman tells us
TXC2: the year is 1120, however, for some reason, we're all dressed like it's 1760
TXC2: TehAmelie and a big goddamn poster
LordZarano: @SnackPak_ You can draw something very similar with unicode Ƭ but since it uses a bunch of combining characters it would probably get deleted by lrrbot's zalgo filters
saintguard: Law/Love seems like a lot for a four year old...
richard_ermen: Remember, the people of this world are ....different. How they're reborn souls from the foot or head of the pillar of the twin gods who constantly recycle souls until they become ...whatever.
TXC2:
what about Star Trek?
shushu2539: "What's the purpose of life?" "I'm five!"
TXC2: whichever one has the vibes
TehAmelie: @richard_ermen after playing TLAS of Sir Brante like 30 times, i'm not sure there is an end goal of reincarnation
TXC2:
the dark ones are the ones not lit up yet because you are Qbert
TehAmelie: they just keep living. . .for tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrw
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richard_ermen: @TehAmelie Hmmm. Maybe you're right. I just dimly remember meeting the twin gods several times, sometimes defiant, sometimes elevated, but somehow it never changed them. I wonder if the mythology of TLAS's world is an endless cycle of misery because its so self-serving without a point.
TehAmelie: i concor
richard_ermen: Always attack!
TXC2: time to become a Vulcan
saintguard: *There can only be one*
TehAmelie: but, maybe this game will tell us a different story!
richard_ermen: So...we're....what, five? And we suddenly learn that the mirror image exists and we're....insane about it?
richard_ermen: @TehAmelie We'll have to see =)
LidofLoathing: WIS vs INT
TXC2:
isn't that what the difference engine was? a clockwork abacus?
richard_ermen: The main problem with looking at your own eyes in a mirror is that you can never get closer. There's always this invisible wall between you and the mirror universe.
richard_ermen: Are we in a Wonder Woman 1984 trailer? "Life used to be good. But it could be better!".
pawssumplace: If curtains permeated my being...
richard_ermen: Hahaha, Mommy....as if we're, a noble child, ever going to see our mother in any way shape or fashion that is "motherly"
richard_ermen: Are we....a bastard?
TehAmelie: i was like 41 when i realized by nearsighted eyes are basically microscopes. you can get so close. . .but i still don't know what to make of the reflection of myself in my eyes.
richard_ermen: Ah, the single-soul-nobles.
ArtDecoSunburn: @TehAmelie A reverse superpower, of sorts.
ArtDecoSunburn: That's a nice hallway illustration.
richard_ermen: I love how the paper colour pervades all "colour"
richard_ermen: The one thing I always found confusing: How they never add any colour to these images.
ArtDecoSunburn: Reminds me of the 1980s book "Maze."
TXC2: colour is expensive
ArtDecoSunburn: @TXC2 Especially when you have to add the "u" for British and Commonwealth audiences.
richard_ermen: lol
TXC2: ArtDecoSunburn exactly
ArtDecoSunburn: I'm getting slight Lloyd Alexander vibes from this narrative.
richard_ermen: I love how much this is 17th century. "Love? Humbug! Raise the boy on mathematics and geography and he'll be a fine specimen!"
pawssumplace: The BEST way to learn the way of the world is books, not being in the world.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen I mean, have you read Rousseau's "Emile"?
GedankenPalast_:
pawssumplace: No one what?
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn I have... some twenty years back. Didn't they burn it at first because the church found the idea that you ahve to treat children differently so preposterous they thought it was of the devil?
ArtDecoSunburn: Archduke? Are we in pseudo-Hapsburg lands? They're the ones who made up that title.
saintguard: Nominative determinism is alive and well and living near JILLIAM
Wolfstrike_NL: Now I need Montgomery Burns to come up
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Exactly. And so much of it was, expose the kids to logic and wonder and answer their questions like they're valid little people.
TXC2:
ArtDecoSunburn pseudo-Hapsburg? so Europe then?
cmdrud87: I also describe mtg drafting as life and sufferinh
TXC2: (Sans France of course)
richard_ermen: "For he who reads a book, never feels lonely, for he has lived a thousand times before he dies"
richard_ermen: Wore a rough once for a history cosplay. It was...rather heady.
richard_ermen: Mostly it collects a lot of sweat.
ArtDecoSunburn: @TXC2 As much as the other principalities aped the boys from Vienna, none of them ever adopted that made up title.
MenomeAlice: I never heard of Elizabethans complaining about getting ice cream on their boobs, so they must work 🤷♀️
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen He never got the terrible Sean Hannity book someone gave me Christmas once. I died a thousand times by chapter two.
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Children? Being people? Nonsense! In the end you tell me we have to accept peasants as humans as well?
ArtDecoSunburn: Ten whole letters? I hope their alphabet doesn't have a thousand letters.
TXC2: not enough probably
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn A thousand deaths is still a thousand lives but I get where you're coming from xD
gnyrinn: There is a difference between "being able to read" and "being able to read"
richard_ermen: 2 years, and we read ONE book.
pawssumplace: When this other kid is too old to be a kid's tutor, SOMEONE has to do it.
MenomeAlice: @richard_ermen Ahead of the US education system currently then
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen That's dangerous Frankurt merchant talk. We're going to get Metternich to run you off the continent. You can go to Illinois with all the other 1848er German liberals.
TXC2:
richard_ermen must have been Ulysses by James Joyce 
richard_ermen: lol
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Ha!
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn I'll counter your Metternich by playing my Talleyrand in Defensive Position!
ArtDecoSunburn: @MenomeAlice Is that a slight to the size of their ice cream cones or Elizabethan busts?
richard_ermen: @MenomeAlice I have bad news for your about the state of education worldwide -_-
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen En garde! (Tallyrand immediately switches sides and betrays both of us. Metternich sees a woman's ankle and collapses in fear)
richard_ermen: I feel like we're somehow being taught to become a gloriously named middle manager
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn This made me actually laugh. What a good passage =)
ArtDecoSunburn: Hey, good company makes for good humor.
richard_ermen: Feet?!?
BusTed:
ArtDecoSunburn: I predicted the ankle!
saintguard: o no
BusTed:
richard_ermen: Afterwards, in our memoirs, we'll be like Kissinger, going "My childhood never influenced my later war crimes"
shushu2539:
TXC2: dog dies, game 0/10
richard_ermen: Sorry girl, Twins don't care about animals.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen You know when he was in grad school, Kissinger apparently loved playing "Diplomacy." The backstabbing came naturally.
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn How fitting for a man who loved lying more than anything else.
saintguard: I don't know how JILLIAM is *this* sheltered, but here we are
richard_ermen: I find the depiction of Religion in TLAS to be utterly insufferable. It felts so very systemic suppression tool in the first game, I wonder if it'll be similar here.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen There's a giant bust of him in a building I frequent for work. It takes considerable restraint to not vandalize it.
ArtDecoSunburn: @saintguard This is like Gormenghast levels of sheltered.
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn You're a stronger person than I would be. I drank to happy times on news of his death and invite everyone to do similar.
saintguard: @ArtDecoSunburn It really is
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen I once had to restrain myself from spitting on Robert McNamara when I found myself on a balcony directly above his bald head.
saintguard: "These people seem...plot-relevant."
pawssumplace: Remember, if you want to portray a religion as different from Christianity, just palette swap yaweh and Jesus
TXC2: !break
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ArtDecoSunburn: @pawssumplace Ha! Maybe add some arms, and apostrophes to the god's names.
pawssumplace: Perhaps.
shushu2539: !advice
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TXC2: right chat I'm off
ArtDecoSunburn: @pawssumplace I was thinking in particular how RPGs disguise their "Not-Catholicism" and "Not-Protestantism."
TXC2: Goodnight everybody, and thanks for streaming Cori and Cameron.
ArtDecoSunburn: @TXC2 Good night.
pawssumplace: @ArtDecoSunburn Which ones?
richard_ermen: @TXC2 night
pawssumplace: By some mercy, I don't seem to gravitate toward games that have thinly guised religious themes.
richard_ermen: As a writer I can tell you: Writing a good non-judeo-christian inspired religion when you're coming from that background is HARD
ArtDecoSunburn: Hmm. I feel like a lot of the early DnD and Mythras knockoffs had pantheons that felt more like slightly disguised systems of Christian saints more than fully realized cosmologies.
richard_ermen: Oh totally.
richard_ermen: Some others like Tekumel had its writers become turbo-fascists
richard_ermen: And again others were good, but often overlooked, like Glorantha or anything by Jenna Moran
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen I'm sure. I've read some commentary on that in the past month with Christopher Nolan's "Odyssey" film.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen That was disappointing. I know a guy who became a distinguished PhD, professor of eastern religion because of the influence of "Empire of the Petal Throne" on him when he was a teenager.
pawssumplace: Oof
richard_ermen: Aye.
richard_ermen: The Odyssey....is difficult. I remember trying to discuss this with a friend coming out of the movie and he got really angry with me for trying to be critical and open to a movie that is so very non-achaen-greek and anti-heroic
maclaglen: Meh.
TheAinMAP:
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen There's actually something similar with political entities. Most RPG writers cannot conceive of states as anything but post-Peace of Westphalia centralized governments with fixed capitals and balanced levers of authority. Most fantasy governments make no sense.
ZestyFungus: The music is really nice
shushu2539: still sad about the dog
richard_ermen: So I take it we're not arknian?
maclaglen: always sad about the dog
SnackPak_: neat
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen (Whispers) "The sea people . . . was Nolan all along."
silenceaux: This is what you have instead of The Sun
ArtDecoSunburn: Why is there a sky beam?
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Oh yes. Its a trap I found myself trapped in when I began developing my current novel from a dark renaissance fantasy setting I wrote....many years back. Its...difficult and media really likes to simplify it into "capitals and bureaucracy and done"
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn "I think this...our age of bronze is ending". Thanks for the boston accent, Matt Damon.
SnackPak_: this religion sucks!
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen It's why I both love and hate the WFRP Old World setting. They're so close to a true Holy Roman Empire analog, but fall just short.
richard_ermen: Wasn't one of the endings of Sir Brante that all of this was actually a lie? I dimly seem to remember so but I might be wrong?
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen "How about them golden apples, Helen?"
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn And yet, one of the better ones, especially in the 2E ttrpg.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen How did you end up addressing it in your novel?
silenceaux: @richard_ermen There's a lot of theological debate about the accuracy of The Lots
pawssumplace: I did NOT know it was gonna be this on the nose when I made the religion joke.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen I'm still more a fan of the 1st edition. The flavor and tone are great. Love 4/5ths of "The Enemy Within."
ArtDecoSunburn: See, that's a Victorian den.
ArtDecoSunburn: Not early modern.
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Perspective and tearing down some big truths. One thing is that the world is very much not united. There are power structures but often concentrated in more polis-, clan- or house-structures, following the downfall of the not-greco-roman empire
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Very neat. That's a powerful realization. Frankish Europe, for instance, is not the state model of post-Napoleon Europe.
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn If you're interested, I think I still have the 2016 rulebook online somewhere
silenceaux: I'm probably gonna try cloves and cilantro now
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Main problem I have? I still wanted a not-HRE because its such a nice idea xD
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Would be very interested.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen It's a great idea. I've toyed with writing something for DriveThruRPG. A pastiche with proper floating seats and prince-bishropics.
richard_ermen: That's a proper roman curse name
silenceaux: Ah, right. The disallowance of pleasure.
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Wouldn't you know it....my setting does contain cloud seas and aether shipyards =)
silenceaux: Nevermind this is much worse!
richard_ermen: One thing I really liked in Sir Brante was leading the revolution, tearing the empire apart.
richard_ermen: Kicking in some arknian nobles.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Cool beans. Sounds great.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen There is something immensely satisfying about seeing an imperial construct dismembered.
Brozard: You are saying "impudence" to me! That is impudence!
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richard_ermen: More games should allow you to just kick in someones kneecaps and shout "revolution", regardless of the cost
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Agreed
saintguard: The targeting reticle on all of them is...odd
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen I could go for a "C" button on consoles: "Strike! Strike! Strike!"
richard_ermen: Knowing modern game design, we'll get a "Press F to pay respects"-button instead.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen "Double click to union-bust."
richard_ermen: "Say nothing to accept technocratic overlords"
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen "Lick the boot DLC! Only $9.99!"
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Actually, we tested that with Marketing and they would prefer we go with the name "Horse Armor" instead.....oh, and we're adding these TPS sheets to all reports, so if you could go for that.....thaaaaaaanks.
ArtDecoSunburn: So this civilization has molasses? They have cane sugar? Caribbean style plantations?
shushu2539: the blue prince origins
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Ha!
richard_ermen: They also have cultural evolution mimicking our baroque age despite having no new worlds or outside countries that would serve as foils.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen And let me guess, civilization has been at the same level of development for 10,000 years?
richard_ermen: Ah, the Martin-esque temporal stasis?
richard_ermen: I wonder if he's actually Ferdinan' El Ber-Re
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Ha!
ArtDecoSunburn: Be like the Tibetans. Just make your butter into tea.
richard_ermen: "Cold Toast" doesn't really work that well as a war cry.
ContingentCat: that's how truth works
richard_ermen: Ahh, House Tempest, so great that a 12 year old already hurts them.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen "For Queen, Country, and Beans on Toast!" (Whole generation marches off to battle)
richard_ermen: If the throne was granted by the twins, what is the use of the other houses?
Juliamon: Oh, this kid boutta die
ArtDecoSunburn: So this is just Herbert's Landsraad?
richard_ermen: Everything is Dune?
richard_ermen: Let's talk about sand. How its coarse and gets into everything.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen I guess the spice did flow.
saintguard: Bugs confirmed
richard_ermen: Spice would still mean worms and bridge the path to bugs.
ArtDecoSunburn: This idea of powerful imperial armies with no enemies always bothered. Like in Magic, in Ravnica, who does the Boros army actually fight?
silenceaux: If only...
richard_ermen: Cams disappointment is real and palpable.
Gekyouryuu: this looks familiar. have we played this before?
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Why, the only enemy worth fighting: The boros army!
silenceaux: Schisms? In this setting?
Juliamon: Gekyouryuu Yes, it's a sequel to a game they played
saintguard: Shrimp?
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Okay, Anakin/Lawrence/Jesus/Abraham/Mohammed.
Gekyouryuu: @Juliamon ok, that makes sense
richard_ermen: Great Scott Cam, Christ is not a biscuit or a wafer!
Juliamon: The last one was Sir Brant, this is Prince Jerian
ArtDecoSunburn: The Vatican Calorie Observatory?
SarkhanGluedBackTogether: I wanna do a schism based on the required percentage of alcohol in the wine
SnackPak_: cheat days for jesus
Gekyouryuu: i was raised catholic, and am therefore a cannibal, i suppose
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Weird how often we seem to elevate young men coming from the sands, isn't it?
silenceaux: "I love god so much I would eat communion every day if I could" "You would get fat" "Why would I get fat" "God makes you fat"
ArtDecoSunburn: Is Martin Luther's Reformation then like Diet Jesus?
SarkhanGluedBackTogether: flesh has calories though
KeytarCat: GFJC
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen It's why the Western/Middle Eastern is such a popular trope.
richard_ermen: So by that logic, are Calvinists then the people who only use synthetic christ instead?
ghizmou: where does the christ essence comes in the ingredient order for the wafer?
saintguard: How does gravity affect transubstantiation?
Gekyouryuu: you pour a whole box of communion wafers into a bowl, fill with wine, have Jesus as a cereal
ArtDecoSunburn: Maybe transubstantation is the process of inserting splenda in place of glucose?
ArtDecoSunburn: @Gekyouryuu "Crown of thorns in every box!"
richard_ermen: Why is it c alled gunpowder?
silenceaux: Ah. I think I know exactly where we are in the timeline
richard_ermen: Wasn't it called blasting powder at first instead of gunpowder?
ContingentCat: so since Jesus consented for the transubstantiation process however that worked, is Jesus' flesh vegan?
ArtDecoSunburn: @silenceaux Right around time for Prussia-analog to rise on the Eastern marches?
richard_ermen: Wait...is this story set AFTER Brante??
saintguard: Isolating them from any other nobles...
pawssumplace: Now I'm laughing because apparently 1000 communion wafers is $19.98 on Amazon.
BusTed: raised wrong on purpose, as a joke
ArtDecoSunburn: @ContingentCat If the end product of the host is flesh, does it become gluten free at the altar?
richard_ermen: How many communion wafers to make a Christ then?
ArtDecoSunburn: You can make them in a waffle maker.
ContingentCat: sounds like a LRL bit, communion wafer tasting
pawssumplace: Ingredients are: Wheat flour, water
pawssumplace: It's just hard tack
silenceaux: @ArtDecoSunburn What is this Prussia? There is only holy Arknian Empire (I just meant in relation to the Sir Brante game)
richard_ermen: Now I am thinking of Fullmetal Alchemist counting up what humans are made of and how just adding all parts together does not make humans.
TehAmelie: ooh i need to buy more flour, thanks for saying it
ArtDecoSunburn: @pawssumplace Makes Civil War marching songs read differently. Glory, glory, hallaleuh indeed!
richard_ermen: @silenceaux I think this is like Austria-Hungary in the guise of a world-spanning russian empire, but with actual, real gods and strange blue-skinned fascists as rulers.
EvilBadman: Church really needs to break into novelty flavors
TehAmelie: Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory is such a terrible, amazing song
ArtDecoSunburn: @silenceaux Is there a Cologne analog in this game universe? I like Cologne -- they had special dispensation to mint coinage.
silenceaux: I'm tapping out, I don't have nearly enough historical knowledge to weigh in on these comparisons.
KeytarCat: If you believe the wafers ARE the body of Christ, they are both bread and christ. entirely each, like the trinity. it's not gluten free bc it's still entirely bread. it's just...also entirely the body of christ
ArtDecoSunburn: @TehAmelie For a fan rewrite of "Crimson Skies" I did for an RPG session, I reworked those lines into "The Battle Hymn of the Collective."
TehAmelie: transubstantiation. they Catholic church tests your willingness to believe nonsense at every turn
ArtDecoSunburn: @KeytarCat That's a very logical and Christian reading. Thank you. It's like the existence of Christ as man and God.
richard_ermen: I'm sorry, but what kind of sorry child are we that we get a "jurisprudence" skill??
KeytarCat: I grew up Catholic. I also grew up with the Alice books. I believe 10 impossible things before breakfast
ArtDecoSunburn: @silenceaux Just do what spouses and partners said when I was in grad school and we historians went down rabbit holes: "How about that cotton gin?" Reminded us to rejoin the world.
saintguard: @richard_ermen It's a stat for society at large, not for JILLIAM
richard_ermen: Oh. Thank the Twins.
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Very judgemental child?
saintguard: Cavaliers! Where's Charles I?
pawssumplace: By the time you have a streak of grey hair, you have a streak in your ear...
ArtDecoSunburn: @richard_ermen Interesting. Blue-skinned would be nice metaphor for how the Bohemians viewed the Austrians.
richard_ermen: Let's murder a king! Jolly Ho!
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn Definitely the sort that should get bullied in school
ArtDecoSunburn: @saintguard Maybe they're the UVA football team?
saintguard:
@ArtDecoSunburn idk, not enough padding 
richard_ermen: @ArtDecoSunburn As in "they're not willing to give us freedom?"
ArtDecoSunburn: @saintguard Ha!
richard_ermen: Ohhhhh, we might be able to die for the first time here
saintguard: JILLIAM directly in his ear
pawssumplace: J I L L I A M
ArtDecoSunburn: "Let my brother run you through to prove your love for me!"
RandomTrivia:
Hi friends! 
I joined the stream to the sound of Cameron shouting "JILLIAM" so already I can tell this is a delight 
BloodnBullets: imbreeding probably.
richard_ermen: @RandomTrivia A good moment! We're currently trying to trash our only lowborn friend.
ArtDecoSunburn: @BloodnBullets With enough luck, our descendants won't be able to produce saliva!
Juliamon: She did ask us to lose...
saintguard: It's wild how much not punching a mirror has affected your choices
richard_ermen: lol
richard_ermen: "Emil will remember this"
richard_ermen: I love how we're suddenly like "Wtf just happened, why did my superior logic not win?"
saintguard: JILLIAM, buddy
richard_ermen: We're already well on the incel path
RandomTrivia: Ok but can we just kick him to the ground now?
richard_ermen: Aren't they like....10??
richard_ermen: Lol, we became Emils wingman without meaning to.
pawssumplace: 12
ArtDecoSunburn: Emil's really gotten in emo music.
saintguard: What terrible thing is going to happen to this man
ArtDecoSunburn: @saintguard Statue crushes him?
richard_ermen: "I saw the angle in the marble and carved until I set it free"
ArtDecoSunburn: Secret Protestant alert!
richard_ermen: Fotis? I remember that name. Didn't he do wild?
richard_ermen: Oh Damn, a catholic!
SarkhanGluedBackTogether: next thing, this guy is going to start recommending some podcasts about what "they" don't want us to know
richard_ermen: Emil's a snitcH!
Juliamon: Oh no, our friend's a narc
silenceaux: Emil nooooo
saintguard: No reason to be friends with Emil anymore
ArtDecoSunburn: Auto-da-fe time?
RandomTrivia: ok but like NOW can we kick Emil to the ground?
saintguard: I guess I was wondering what terrible thing was going to happen to Alfred
saintguard: Don't like it
richard_ermen: Emil's father about to do something really dumb.
ArtDecoSunburn: @saintguard (Cowers) Do your words create reality, rather than describe it? Can you -- speculate the future into being?
richard_ermen: There were some comments at the beginning at how the game supposedly used AI. Is this part of it?
saintguard: It's so watery
Wolfstrike_NL: I had the same question when we saw the eye in the mirror animation
ContingentCat: agree Cori
pawssumplace: Wax doesn't flow INTO a candlestick
shushu2539: what a.. weird.. candle?
ArtDecoSunburn: @pawssumplace Not with that attitude, it doesn't!
richard_ermen: Is Candle Enthusiast = Fire Hazard?
ContingentCat: how are the drips going under the base?
saintguard:
@ArtDecoSunburn Who can say
richard_ermen: Are we sure this is supposed to be a candle according to the AI?
silenceaux: Schisms? In this setting...?
richard_ermen: Poor Alfred. He's right but I wonder if Fotis revolts in one as well.
richard_ermen: Because they're not miracles. They're magic.
GhostValv: candled
silenceaux: Ah, it's here to induce agony and despair
SquareDotCube: Is this a ham candle
RandomTrivia: He does have a very punchable face
SarkhanGluedBackTogether: this is our fault for building up his confidence
richard_ermen: All this learning is gonna kill us, I just know it.
pawssumplace: """"Love""""
ContingentCat: um
silenceaux: Weird thing to bring up
silenceaux: to a child
saintguard: uh
MenomeAlice: A bit of a leap
richard_ermen: "All life is meaningless". I mean, yeah. Isn't that great? All that freedom? You can do what you want because all meaning there is, you create for yourself.
Julian_Rogue: @richard_ermen I just never seem to create my own .-.
ContingentCat: oh my
RandomTrivia: AHH!
saintguard: YIKES
silenceaux: That is deeply concerning
richard_ermen: @Julian_Rogue I think you do. I think we all do, whether we realize it or not. But we've been taught that meaning is a grandiose thing, when its also all the small things. Meaning also comes in feeding your cat or getting out of bed in the morning to go to work.
shushu2539: hello source of nightmares
KeytarCat: Well this has been pleasantly disturbing! I'mma head out
richard_ermen: That what "creating your own source of meaning" is. You are your own meaning. Life is self-referencing.
richard_ermen: @KeytarCat Byyyeee
KeytarCat: byebye!
Julian_Rogue: @richard_ermen I also have clinical depression and am medicated most days those things hold negative meaning for me. I hate that I have to get out of bed lol
Julian_Rogue:
the only thing keeping me going is obseridism Nihilism
richard_ermen: Hmmmm, valid. I wish I could stay in bed more too.
pawssumplace: I wonder what they made communion wafers from when wheat was scarce back in the day
Cutriss: Some line I remember reading last week - « You are the universe experiencing itself. »
pawssumplace: Is taking the entire thing all at once to stop you from noticing there were weevils?
pawssumplace: Ants
richard_ermen: @Cutriss Was it Carl Sagan? For some reason I always tend to go back to Babylon 5 with Delenn: "You are made of starstuff."
Cutriss: @richard_ermen Seems likely
pawssumplace: Man, I'd get my partner that mug if they drank ANY hot beverages...
RandomTrivia: @pawssumplace Protip: You're allowed to drink cold drinks from a mug too!
pawssumplace: True, but he kinda just has a big water tumbler and only occasionally has a glass of juice.
pawssumplace: Not much of a beverages person
pawssumplace: And he would never want only a mug of juice
Juliamon: He should consider a mug of juice.
Cutriss:
@richard_ermen 
pawssumplace: All I'm getting out of this is hey, why doesn't LRR make a stainless steel tumbler with something cool on it?
richard_ermen: Ahhh, napoleonic era satire
KaleidoscopeMind: may... may
KaleidoscopeMind: just possible maybe
ArdCollider: I went looking for the AI thing and then went "whoa what"
SnackPak_: yeah, its not good
Bruceski: Just a hint
SquareDotCube: It's very... anti-Puck
ArdCollider: because that was what I saw first
SarkhanGluedBackTogether: I wonder what that symbol on the top of the building is supposed to be...
EvilBadman: It's not great:tm:
richard_ermen: I...I have to remind that the game has russian roots and therefore some cultural....ideas.
SnackPak_: big daddy roth
Cutriss: Oh, pitchforks, that’s a depiction of Reddit
richard_ermen: Does Cameron mean CatDirty?
EvilBadman: *
richard_ermen: "Equality....in my autocratic caste-system? Well I never!"
saintguard: Some sort of...parliaments!
SymphonySolstice: *clutches pearls*
BusTed: street rat!
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ContingentCat: Fuck yeah it will
richard_ermen: "Required 3", we have 6
pawssumplace: Man, that kid's hairline is so high for like 12
pawssumplace: WHy is he sitting in a tube...?
richard_ermen: That poor kid is gonna be bald by the age of 20
pawssumplace: Oh that's a candle
Bruceski: Run! He's about to start a musical number!
saintguard: We're still friends with Emil?
richard_ermen: Are...are we actually going to do crimes?
silenceaux: Hhhuh. They'd have to keep him alive just to make sure he doesn't evaporate midway through.
HorusFive: And also- you get to see a guy killed in front of your eyes
SarkhanGluedBackTogether: our management is too low to improve our management
richard_ermen: Yes Cam, embrace the noble creed!
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saintguard: *Cam*
SarkhanGluedBackTogether:
RandomTrivia: oh dear
empyreon:
pawssumplace:
Snowcookies: Hi chat, how goes life and suffering?
RandomTrivia: CAMERON
pawssumplace: Cam has tiny people in his brain
richard_ermen: Well, I'm gonna tap out, ya'll ahve a grand ol' time
Cutriss: peace out @richard_ermen
SarkhanGluedBackTogether: "good luck."
SnackPak_:
BusTed: glhf
saintguard: Ted Talk time!
HorusFive: Dad loves us!
pawssumplace: Have we ever found out who his ACTUAL parents are...?
ArtDecoSunburn: I know what this reminds me a little of. Lloyd Alexander's "Westmark."
BusTed:
pawssumplace: JILLIAM'S parents, I mean.
saintguard: Let us see the cat!
pawssumplace: Disembodied haaaaaaand
empyreon:
KaleidoscopeMind: rebooting
saintguard:
SnackPak_: good joke streamer
wholsometiger: Is... Is it intentional?
fcloud:
i took you on as my minty 
it was a wise and delicious choice
notthepenguins: um
saintguard: Sorry Cornelius, you didn't prepare JILLIAM for that
ArdCollider: they take away your caps lock
silenceaux: Sounds like typically, taking the blood tide tends to change a child drastically
pawssumplace: This roguelike sucks
Vinewood_OG: He's got a knife!
fcloud:
cori can u pls not look like you're enjoying this so much 
jacqui_lantern234:
@fcloud i fail to see the problem with Cori's enjoyment 
pawssumplace: You read so many fkn books and now you have to lose it.
ArdCollider: Brutus's mom
MAPBoardgames: I think the guy with the knife behind his back may be up to no good.
pawssumplace: Is he just hiding it to be polite?
saintguard: It's going to be hell to get the blood out of those clothes
MAPBoardgames:
NO U Jacqui! 
KaleidoscopeMind: wikipedia: "Servilia (mother of Brutus)" -- wow, way to define a woman solely by her relation to a man
jacqui_lantern234: @MAPBoardgames NO U MOST
ArdCollider: I know Dunelikes that use subtext and they're all cowards
wedge_x: he's a horseshoe crab!
fcloud:
this is creepy 
ArdCollider: uncontrollably, I think, etc.
fcloud: he's just jealous of your awesome red blood
ArtDecoSunburn: @fcloud So much iron!
ArdCollider: your *every* orifice!
ErynTzun: Of hai, we bleeding blue blood today?
ArtDecoSunburn: @ErynTzun "Who dis? New blood color."
wedge_x: this is the end of The Highlander
saintguard: J I L L I A M
ArtDecoSunburn: @wedge_x As a video game -- The Clickening.
ErynTzun: Just had to be different like Klingons in some Trek movies
SnackPak_: my blobos!
HorusFive: Can we keep sad locked? What does that do?
fcloud:
oh no, we'll be a slightly worse manager 
wedge_x: lul
whitefirecomix: Pfft i unlocked sad years ago
jacqui_lantern234: CORI YES
ArtDecoSunburn: @HorusFive Lead a life of quiet desperation?
fcloud: this joke brought to you by south park 2006 gang
HorusFive: @ArtDecoSunburn Oh man, that's already the life I'm living
wedge_x: the illusion of choose your own adventure
fcloud: it's tearing me apart~ every every dayyy~
fcloud: the main character, John Room
fcloud: [wild grin not pictured]
fcloud: your triumphs, your experiences, your gamerscore
fcloud: how did we read 1132 pages in only two hours
ArdCollider: but are you also dancer
Juliamon: *why* was the candle animated *at all*
Juliamon: most of the images *aren't* animated
TehAmelie: i think that number is the year of the quote-unquote "blessed" empire we live in
fcloud:
pawssumplace: I'm not even sure the writing isn't AI too. Maybe not the whole thing, but there were some words that showed up more than a writer would want to re-use...
SquareDotCube: Conclusion: the devs should do better, and we know that they *can*
Juliamon: the primary requirement was "break a mirror, stupid child"
saintguard: I didn't like Sir Brante much, but I def liked it more than what we've gotten in this
silenceaux: Are you comparing to the first section of Sir Brante or the later portions?
SquareDotCube: well, at least we're not making out with a witch with tobacco-stained teeth, I guess
saintguard: It definitely gave you more to do
fcloud:
@SquareDotCube speak for yourself 
Juliamon: I like learning about the world of these games, but I think a normal novel might be better for it.
fcloud: it can't take up much space. mechanically and visually it could almost be a hypercard game from the early 90s
silenceaux: I think this is very slightly earlier than Brante, because blasting powder / gunpowder is just starting to proliferate.
jacqui_lantern234: yeah, there are a lot of those books
jacqui_lantern234: and im loving them a lot tbh
pawssumplace: It's hard to form an attachment to character who's backstory is ???
silenceaux: Some of the kids really didn't seem to talk like kids, but maybe I'm out of touch.
QuixoticScrivener: what fun are those?
ErynTzun: My cousin used to bring over D&D chose your own adventure books when I was a kid. That was my first exposure to D&D.
pawssumplace: Byeeee
Cutriss: Thank you for strim!
ErynTzun: Hi bye hi
Snowcookies: ty for the stream
saintguard: Thanks for the stream!
ErynTzun:
ty for steam
SarkhanGluedBackTogether: and nnothing would have been lost
ContingentCat:
Thanks Cori and Cam
QuixoticScrivener: ty for stem!
jacqui_lantern234:
thanks for streaming, you two 
jacqui_lantern234: YAY PAUL
Ashmantle:
jacqui_lantern234: but sad that alex is sick
QuixoticScrivener: yay Beej!
jacqui_lantern234: OOH PAUPER
ErynTzun: Just in time for a Checkpoint to watch after
Juliamon: oh wow early Checkpoint today
jacqui_lantern234: hold up, gonna DM you about pauper cori
TheAinMAP:
KaleidoscopeMind: food for cori
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