Juliamon: rolling rolling rolling
GapFiller: INCOMING
DigitalSeahorse: incoming video game cabinet!
DoodlestheGreat: SOON™
gsyhiap:
2Flower:
Hello, I am here for the arcadification. 
TheAinMAP: Signal.
Juliamon:
Strebenherz:
Nigouki: Time for perfectly safe stream
DigitalSeahorse: it's so fun getting to see these things especially in person
Juliamon: Everyone have your emergency 2x4 handy?
Strebenherz:
@Juliamon lightning speed on that nice xD
Juliamon: I still got beat by TheAinMAP though
gsyhiap: @Juliamon I have an emergency beer, will that do?
Juliamon: gsyhiap Well, it'll dull the pain a bit, maybe
Electrodyne: the announcement said "Tailer" and this is the Internet - we're all pedants here. Blink twice if you need help
Joy_Stix_DragQueen: LRR x Hololive collab??? Ina and Alex working on an arcade cabinet! lol
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Electrodyne I've been trying to learn to focus it in specific ways
paronomasiac042: "tailer" "ina" it's a code
Electrodyne: I believe a tailer is a fish worker, or a spy who tails people
paronomasiac042: it's the person who tests that donkey game
RandomTrivia:
Hi friends! 
shushu2539: !findquote arcade
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Molladia: Is Ina Alex's Scotish or Welsh partner?
DigitalSeahorse: British
KBKarma: Right on time!
WriterRaven flops into chat, snacking
DigitalSeahorse: MY partner is Scottish!
Molladia: They originate from the British Isles
Simonark: If you work as a tailer more than once you are just selling things in a shop.
TheAinMAP: Hello.
Kentosaurus: ok baby
DigitalSeahorse: I met Sephy, she's nice.
Molladia: OH it was a spelling mistake
Joy_Stix_DragQueen: Good lord that thing is huge!
DigitalSeahorse: OK Baby!
Strebenherz: Please don't get electrocuted
RandomTrivia: The Ian Horner Rescue Device is somewhere
gualdhar: hah, potential, I get it!
WriterRaven: Being in the chat? That's me!
RandomTrivia: For when your monitor gets Gauss'd
DandyGeek: that’s surprising for an arcade cab, usually they don’t have degaussing baked in
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TheNerdWonder: oh yeah. Alex did an oopsie
Strebenherz: nice
2Flower: Live long and phoshor.
tdapenguin: @2Flower Ooh, well-done!
DigitalSeahorse: uhoh
RandomTrivia: Alex de-gauss'd it. Unfortunately, it hadn't been gauss'd.
DigitalSeahorse: woopsie
Kentosaurus: re-gauss
Strebenherz: how many years ago was that?
WriterRaven: Solution: re-gauss?
DoodlestheGreat: Ooopsie poopsie...
DigitalSeahorse: a degausser
RandomTrivia: Neat
wedge_x: this is fine
gsyhiap: Well that's terrifying
RandomTrivia:
ArdCollider: "this is fine" says man who did this to his parents' TV once
Thefluffiestguineapig: WELP
DigitalSeahorse: looks like a bunch of wire
tdapenguin:
Anubis169: Hello hello!
RandomTrivia: It's half a transformer
wedge_x: @ArdCollider shhhhh
Nigouki: it's the Bro'dge
KBKarma: Alex... did you disassemble a deg
Thefluffiestguineapig: I love how Ian is BACKING AWAY
ErynTzun:
Oh hai how's it going 
we doing some careful electrical work today?
Thefluffiestguineapig: Do you have a 2x4
KBKarma: *disassemble a CRT?
Simonark: I assume half a transformer is just a disguise.
Juliamon: hehe one of the light reflections on the arcade monitor looks like a weener
DigitalSeahorse:
Nigouki: Main Screen Turn On?
Anubis169: Degaussing stuff always freaks me the flarp out
Thefluffiestguineapig: My question wasn't rhetorical, do you have the 2x4 handy??
gsyhiap: Do we need the studio lights lower to see the image?
WriterRaven: @Juliamon Or if you look at the negative space, there's a radiation hazard in the moonbase!
SaxPython: so many working fluids
DigitalSeahorse: wow dusty
Juliamon: whoa you could SEE that
Anubis169: christ the dust was visible on stream
RandomTrivia: Good gracious
Strebenherz: @Thefluffiestguineapig i think they mentioned having the ian rescue thing handy yeah
SkylerRingtail: My allergies are flaring up just watching
Nigouki: that's a vacuum cleaner with a brush attachment level of dust
RandomTrivia: Who needs haze when you can simply dust your CRT
Thefluffiestguineapig: At least it was dust and not cigarette ick
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e_bloc:
665 LRR has an AED right
DigitalSeahorse: weeeeeeee
TheFragranceOfDarkCoffee: Oooh cool candy cab
DigitalSeahorse: always ready to be fumbled onto the floor
KadmosTech: !ripdevil
TomatoKigu: +1 on cheap dry brushes for cleaning things.
roadhog123: It's important to brush the dust towards the other CRT so it can be collected
KadmosTech:
Wait this isn't Bob 
RandomTrivia:
gsyhiap: @roadhog123 Are we demonstrating a loop?
LurkerSpine: the good shop towels
Thefluffiestguineapig: What kind of brush did Alex say he was using?
Cptasparagus: oh I see you have a bottle of NAFTA
RandomTrivia: @gsyhiap It's like recycling
2Flower: Male-to-male connector time!
BigTheDave: omg the DUST on that thing
RandomTrivia: There are SO MANY Genesis controllers around, if you can find the actual Genesis
RandomTrivia:
@2Flower 
sirzechs_666: Wait isnt that lyndex's head
RandomTrivia: Oh hey, the CFUT New Year special tape!
Molladia: very good condition, except for being Gaused
roadhog123: Ooh, more dust to clean!
BigTheDave: I've still got my working Megadrive, but since it's 50Hz no-one wants it, except to hear Sonic 1 music at 80% speed
RandomTrivia: That's an actual tape with stuff on it!
Nigouki: i hope that tape has actually been previewed before
Nigouki: and it's not a Master Bedroom Closet Special
Kentosaurus: I was hoping for an atmosfear VHS boardgame
RandomTrivia: @Nigouki That is the tape they put that pre-record onto, then pointed a camera at a CRT to broadcast the stream
LurkerSpine: Is the VCR plugged in?
ErynTzun: I was expecting a console but a VCR is on brand
Anubis169: YCbCr
RandomTrivia: This was Graham's way of getting the authentic VCR experience for that stream - it was a Live prerecord
eggwich: dang, I had that monitor for my C64
RandomTrivia: The studio lights won't be doing the cameras any favours
omdorastrix: aging phospors
Molladia: I remember playing Transformers on that Monitor
RandomTrivia: There we go!
Kentosaurus: cozy
Shadowsoflife: o/
omdorastrix: Nightmare
Molladia: Nightmare VHS
RandomTrivia: Oh boy
Kentosaurus: yes!
Scorpio_SW: 7 days..
omdorastrix: Atmosfear
ghyllnox:
ErynTzun: Hahaha yeeess
voren_chalco: You! The tinker who is moving now!
Juliamon: Were you kind? Did you rewind?
iDangero: Jump Scare!
RandomTrivia: I guess no one be kound, rewound the CFUT special tape
DigitalSeahorse:
SaxPython: Can you be infected by the Ring over Twitch? Or do you have to watch the video directly?
A_Dub888: !card nightmare
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Cptasparagus: have we done a lets try for summoning demons?
Xed_Regulus: This feels like Dora the Explorer
62MGcobra:
ErynTzun: Any Trek Klingon ones so we can Experience Beej?
ContingentCat:
Kentosaurus: take off, eh
RandomTrivia:
Is one of them labelled "CUM Wizard"? 
DigitalSeahorse: woot
iris_of_ether:
Dread_Pirate_Westley: Wasn't last one was the CFUT New Year Special?
DigitalSeahorse: The Thing
DigitalSeahorse: Coooooo loo coo coo coo coo coo coo
Texan_Reverend: CRT futzing stream is incredibly relevant to my interests. I have more than 50 of the darn things.
Thefluffiestguineapig: WoooooowwwwwOOOOOOOOOOO
Scorpio_SW: if the ring was real you can bet people would live stream it and get so many people
moist_but_crunchy: alex is a tech priest now
ghyllnox: \o/
RandomTrivia: This ritual presumably comes from some kind of shamanic process
Texan_Reverend: Degaussing looks like casting spells.
niccus: i need a 2-in-1 degausser-fog machine combo
Thefluffiestguineapig: @moist_but_crunchy That is exactly the vibe I got
Cptasparagus: great show, see you next week!
WriterRaven: @moist_but_crunchy All praise to the Omnissiah.
jhmv: hello tinkers taylors solders and friars
greatknightgaramond: The electricity makes the rocks think! Wave the circlet thrice to expel the demons!
DigitalSeahorse: Ok Baby
moist_but_crunchy: @WriterRaven Hail the machine code!
goberlick: Hi from Austraia
Strebenherz: @Texan_Reverend respectfully, HOW
KadmosTech: @Strebenherz Also respectfully, WHY
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iDangero: ASMR degaussing noises
DigitalSeahorse: I sure hope so
RandomTrivia: Probably air traffic control hardware
LurkerSpine: There are some manufacturers for specific tools
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Strebenherz Do you have anti-Newtonian storage????
Texan_Reverend: @Strebenherz Many racks in the garage and one in each of several rooms.
TheNerdWonder: fighting game tournaments
Cptasparagus: seems to be no because you can't make leaded glass anymore
LordZarano: You can buy less sketchy degaussing wands
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Texan_Reverend: There are zero current CRT manufacturers, and all the supply chain and machinery relevant to them is long dead. Plus, too expensive to rebuild. There are a couple companies doing "new" sales using refurbished or salvaged tubes.
Scorpio_SW: crts remind me of back in college when we carried 3 heavy crt TVs up to a 3rd story apartment to play LAN halo on a friends pool table
Blasteg: this arcade isn't affected whatever is going on at Sega right?
RandomTrivia: @Texan_Reverend I guess no one really wants to build miniature particle accelerators to point at people's faces any more
Juliamon: electrons eepy
omdorastrix: Quite
Molladia: Whats heavier? that TV or a cube of Tungsten. Probably that TV
TomatoKigu: They are not exactly decendants…they are vacuum tubes.
Texan_Reverend: They are just literally vacuum tubes.
ghyllnox: OH
Strebenherz: EXCUSE YOU???
DigitalSeahorse: wat
TomatoKigu: X-rays are just higher energy photons
DigitalSeahorse: eep
ArdCollider: yeah, I was Not Allowed to hang out for TV repairs as a kid
moist_but_crunchy: I beg one of your FINEST PARDONS!?
shushu2539: do geiger counters go crazy too?
ArdCollider: just in case
Texan_Reverend: They can also shoot x-rays at the viewer. Some old models had labels on the back talking about how well they protected folks from that happening.
RandomTrivia: ALEX NO
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Anubis169: Alex!
DiscordianTokkan: BRANKO
Strebenherz:
I was already going "OH OKAY no self repair cus eletrocution. I CAN MAKE XRAYS with a crt? 
DigitalSeahorse: BRANKO
ContingentCat: According to Wikipedia certain planes still use CRT displays and replacing them is too much work/money so there's still one company out there manufacturing them
KadmosTech: So... Does the moonbase have a dosimeter?
Juliamon: There are many many MANY very good reasons CRTs were phased out as soon as we had something better.
62MGcobra: @KadmosTech Alex has like 5 i believe
TheCactaceae: This is actually why they discontinued pennies in Canada - too many people using them instead of fuses
DoodlestheGreat: Once LED screens were low enough price, CRTs vanished surprisingly fast.
RandomTrivia: @TheCactaceae ... how do humans still exist?!
Anubis169: However, with a specific graphics card and hacked firmware, you can make a CRT emit the right kind of radiation to have your own AM radio station that reaches a room or two away
Anubis169: source: done it
RandomTrivia: @Anubis169 ... neat
KBKarma: Hopeless state for a CRT: crater.
tdapenguin: @Texan_Reverend I really enjoy spotting advertising points that raise more questions
Texan_Reverend: Tubes can die. However, they usually last longer than you think, and most issues are to do with the electronics around them.
Anubis169:
RandomTrivia: an old matrox card 
RandomTrivia:
DigitalSeahorse: neato!
Shadowsoflife: very neat
LurkerSpine: Looks like Thomas Electronics is still making CRTs, but who knows how long that's gonna last
DigitalSeahorse:
moist_but_crunchy: you must pray to the machine spirit
DigitalSeahorse: or like a car battery
tdapenguin: @LurkerSpine Huh. Do they do retail or only wholesale?
Texan_Reverend: @LurkerSpine They still produce limited units that utilize CRTs, but they're all new-old-stock tubes that they have in storage to keep older hardware running and repaired.
LurkerSpine: @tdapenguin They do military, medical, and maybe some other niche things lol
Texan_Reverend: There is no production line on the planet manufacturing new tubes anymore.
moist_but_crunchy: alex Technology connection has done videos on pinball machine electronics from back in the day that you might like
TomatoKigu:
Speaking as someone who does know that stuff; you can 100% learn it. The physics is weird, but the electronics is simple. 
ContingentCat: *Marge voice* it's just neat
DigitalSeahorse: warmer sound
TheMerricat: "Unlike solid-state (transistor) amplifiers that aim for neutral, clinical precision, vacuum tubes generate even-order harmonic distortion. This characteristically imparts a warm, rich, and organic quality to music playback."
RandomTrivia: Probably not, the term is older than vacuum tubes
omdorastrix: More overtones - different frequency response (less high end)
gualdhar: music is often described as warm, bright, etc
gsyhiap: We use sensory adjectives to describe other senses regularly though, like something tasting 'sharp', or 'bright'
TomatoKigu: Can recommend ukranian 807 tubes if you want to build audio amplifiers…impurities in the glass make them glow blue (until the impurities burn off, so need somewhat new tubes).
e_bloc: welcome back ok baby
bytecaster: Secret power, secret power, in the cabinet, secret secret secret secret poooooower
SnackPak_: ka-chunk
RandomTrivia: Very satisfying switch noises
DoodlestheGreat: TURBINES TO SPEED
Texan_Reverend: @LurkerSpine Yep, they absolutely do make it sound that way. The tubes are new and unused. They've just been sitting in storage a while. They're almost exclusively for military hardware replacement like specific gauges and such in aircraft.
SnackPak_: good smoke test
DigitalSeahorse: yup
bytecaster: It's nice when it works
bytecaster: Much better than the opposite, not doing something and it just breaking randomly
DigitalSeahorse: worked with one of my games earlier today
DigitalSeahorse: hehehehhehe
Nigouki: secret offscreen Beej? D:
gsyhiap:
e_bloc: praise rescue tool
A_Dub888: loot eucser renroh nai
tdapenguin: @Texan_Reverend what made you get into crts? &/or what's one if the things you like about them?
SnackPak_:
Shadowsoflife: handle?
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DigitalSeahorse: deluminated
SnackPak_: time for the exciting pop?
DigitalSeahorse: pork eh?
Anubis169: Praise LCD/OLED
shushu2539: a shock of less than 100ma at 50hz during a second could be lethal
Anubis169: no more freaky electron guns
DigitalSeahorse: rescue at the ready
KBKarma: Oh, is the rescue tool to break connection between the leccy and the person?
Strebenherz: "Ian horner rescue tool" on the 2x4, didn't notice that before
jhmv: you're in trouble if it takes other paths too... just less so
SnackPak_:
DeM0nFiRe: I have heard of people who work on guitar amplifiers always having one hand in their pocket while they work
TheNerdWonder: @KBKarma effectively, yes. long pokey lever
KBKarma: Legit.
RandomTrivia: @KBKarma Low conductivity human manipulation tool
DigitalSeahorse: the resistance of the resistors
shushu2539: use of insulated gloves is advisable
Texan_Reverend: @tdapenguin I've been using them since the 80s, and if you're wanting to use video/game equipment from the CRT era, the easiest way is with a CRT. The best presentation and most pleasing look for many older games is with a CRT.
omdorastrix: Thermionic emission
Thefluffiestguineapig: @KBKarma Depending on the gloves you want to have a barrier between you and the person you are rescuing or you will end up also having that much current through you
tdapenguin: @Strebenherz Make sure that it doesn't get used as lumber. Very helpful for keeping it preserved as a tool
Strebenherz: @Texan_Reverend very much that yeah.
Texan_Reverend: @tdapenguin There are also benefits like ultra low latency and terrific motion handling compared to LCDs.
Strebenherz:
@tdapenguin curious how many curious questions/looks that gets from the desert bus crew when they roll by
jhmv: modern x-ray machines use a high voltage arc to emit the rays
tdapenguin: @Texan_Reverend Makes sense!
LordZarano: Heat makes it easier for the electrons to leave
DigitalSeahorse: yup
jhmv: instead of a radioactive source
DigitalSeahorse: like SpaceShipping
Thefluffiestguineapig: @jhmv As someone in a field that I am around a lot of those, they end up with issues too
jhmv: so maybe there's a sparker in there somewhere
LordZarano: Shakes them off, like shaking something dry
Texan_Reverend: @tdapenguin Personally, I also like the character of the way colors are reproduced and the general warmth of the glow compared to LCDs. So, there's definitely an amount of vibes rather than facts.
tdapenguin: @Texan_Reverend Thanks
TomatoKigu: Them's looks like Hirschmann clips
Thefluffiestguineapig: Is someone going to send insulated gloves to Ian for TTSF?
Juliamon: You can lead a horse to insulated gloves but you can't make him wear them
TheMerricat: So my dream seems to be at least 10 seconds behind... This might be something that has already been addressed, but the reason you need to heat up a vacuum tube because it is actually dumping electrons off of the cathode, and yes those cathodes can be 'used up' and that's about the only way I can see a vacuum tube becoming unrecoverable other than you know the tube breaking
TheMerricat: Dream = stream
DigitalSeahorse: ooooooommmm
tdapenguin: @Texan_Reverend Yeah, I remember when crts were replaced and being slightly grumpy about things looking differently than I was used to
Texan_Reverend: @tdapenguin I use the main 36" Sony in my den pretty much daily, as it's where I watch basically all my anime, even new releases. Animation looks especially terrific on a CRT.
7gorobei: i miss the dynamic range of crt, macross DYRL just hits harder when the laser blasts and itano circus are eye searingly bright
SquareDotCube: vacuum on vacuum violence
Driosenth: induce a charge.
Texan_Reverend: Static bad.
Texan_Reverend: Canned air better.
DigitalSeahorse: I'm careful about vacuum near my pc
TomatoKigu: Canned air with extraction fan on other side best.
GasCityGaming: I've seen supposed 'static free' vacuums
RandomTrivia: Be sure to pay ohmage to your electricians
sirzechs_666: the back of a CRT has to me always looked like something that someone cobbled together to remake TV in a post apocalyptic world
Texan_Reverend: @tdapenguin Plus, I've created a home TV network with several analog channels I can tune into from any TV in the house. Like actually flip to different channel numbers.
tdapenguin: @Texan_Reverend Your making me want to find a crt enthusiast near me so that I can make friends and see thier monitors in action
DoodlestheGreat: Alex... we both experienced that game Tuesday where the fellow killed himself working on a TV... Please be careful.
GrathXVI: I just got here (LRR streams now start right when I'm usually AFK to eat dinner), how many times has Ian been electrocuted so far?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @GrathXVI I think none?
tdapenguin: @Texan_Reverend That's very satisfying!!
Shadowsoflife: @GrathXVI zero since I been watching
Kentosaurus: @Thefluffiestguineapig that we know of
Texan_Reverend: @tdapenguin There are definitely subreddits and such for CRT enthusiasts, and it can certainly be worth seeing if there's someone near you.
DigitalSeahorse: :C
DigitalSeahorse: hehe
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Kentosaurus I think he would have said something
Thefluffiestguineapig: Also hi tdapenguin friend
Shadowsoflife: @Thefluffiestguineapig like ow
ErynTzun: I still have a CRT but I have not turned it on in years it was never good quality even new.
tdapenguin:
@Texan_Reverend I'm gonna just make a note of that for later 
Texan_Reverend: @tdapenguin And you can always keep your eyes out at estate/garage sales and at resale shops. You might find one for cheap that would be worth playing with to see what you think. Just plug it in first to make sure it at least turns on.
Thisbymaster: we could have better angle....
shushu2539: is the fire extinguisher nearby?
SnackPak_:
no smoke
tdapenguin: @Texan_Reverend Second note added to first
SnackPak_: we have resistance!
DigitalSeahorse: neato
Thisbymaster: does that mean it over heater?
bytecaster: No touchy
TomatoKigu:
Heater should have faint glow, means it's heating. 
Aenir798: Oh we can see a light
Thefluffiestguineapig: @tdapenguin Second note same as the first (making bad music/summer camp chant joke)
DigitalSeahorse: much dark
gsyhiap:
ItemCraftingLive: Hi Ina , Hi Alex
tdapenguin: @Thefluffiestguineapig I know those chants/songs! Hi friend also!!
DigitalSeahorse: nothing
gsyhiap: Nope
TomatoKigu: If the glow was bright enough for camera I'd be worried lol
Aenir798: How long has that board had text on it?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @TomatoKigu That would be "sterilizer heating coil" levels
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Aenir798 My guess? Long enough for this stream
tdapenguin: @Aenir798 It's been on there since at least the first arcade ttsf stream
TomatoKigu: @Thefluffiestguineapig Indeed. Would be ok for other kinds of tubes tho.
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DigitalSeahorse: tooobs
Nigouki:
hardware slash is hard to come by with Ao3 down 
DigitalSeahorse: wooo
KBKarma: I'm gonna bounce and go to bed. Good night, don't electrocute yourselves Alex and Ian and Paul (though the last seems to be keeping his distance).
DigitalSeahorse: wish I had my magnify fox emote
iris_of_ether: Fancy!
DeM0nFiRe: Imagine if that was to scale and the circuitry had to be that big compared to the tube
DigitalSeahorse:
tdapenguin: @Thefluffiestguineapig I once did some reading on official color/temperature names according to blacksmiths. Iirc, every 5C/10F had a new name
sirzechs_666: OOOOHHH old school electrical diagrams
TomatoKigu: Check it just in case.
tdapenguin: @KBKarma Good sleep!
omdorastrix: Using your very-own, built in, EM Raditiation detectors
jadielady: hey y'all
shushu2539: green/yellow is usually ground
TomatoKigu: Fuse OK!
TomatoKigu:
DigitalSeahorse:
Texan_Reverend: Greetings! @jadielady
DigitalSeahorse:
DigitalSeahorse:
DigitalSeahorse: xD
TomatoKigu: Need googlyeyes
Drasvin:
ErynTzun: Ian's head looks a bit like a Muppet from that angle
Uniclonus: So what's the threshold for deciding the solution is 'buy a replacement'?
DigitalSeahorse: if you had two of them you'd almost have a defibrilator
TomatoKigu: This board wouldn't be illegal in the dune universe at least, it's not a very clever board. No thinking machines here.
e_bloc: this month LRR is brought to you by "Gom Jabbar'
Thefluffiestguineapig: @e_bloc I think it's brought to you by the Pain Box
ErynTzun: I guess it also depends on how expensive it is and how hard it is to find one, it's also risky to ship them.
TomatoKigu: Could test point 2 be labelled from the underside of the board?
ErynTzun: LGR on YouTube talks about that as obviously he deals with a lot of CRT things
LoadingReadyRun: the trick is that such a large CRT would be very expensive to replace.
Driosenth: "This board says "Rev. G.2" The documentation says the only made up to "H.4"!"
DigitalSeahorse: circuit board design is so cool and so complicated
LordZarano: Ooh good to see the physical separation between voltages
RealGamerCow: good old sheet of paper sized circuit board
SnackPak_: you can really see the high and low voltage sides on that pcb
Texan_Reverend: Yeah, large replacement CRTs that are compatible with arcade units are harder to come by and often pricey.
DigitalSeahorse:
Kentosaurus: "enhance"
ErynTzun: So not get stuck in the exclusion zone
Nigouki: tiny little pixie border guards on each side of the high and low voltage border
DigitalSeahorse: enHANCE
SnackPak_:
sounds like something for the card reader
tdapenguin: @Uniclonus Earlier in the stream, we were told that CRTs are usually repairable. The trick is, depending on the problem, it might be beyond a specific person's skills
ErynTzun: The nice thing about motherboard manuals is manufacturers tend robnecwr remove them from their websites so they can be up for yeara
GreyThey: Is Ian looking for a specific label on the board?
ErynTzun: Arcade consoles are a whole other ball of wax
ErynTzun: Sorry on the bus the keyboard is accidentally a word a lot
shushu2539: remembering that Alf episode where Willie is fixing the TV and it explodes on his face
ErynTzun: I think that part is in the opening theme of Alf if I'm remembering it right
DigitalSeahorse:
RealGamerCow: I thought nicotine stains on that kind of plastic was a chemical reaction
DigitalSeahorse: dust bnuy
Strebenherz: always a good noise from ian
gsyhiap:
DigitalSeahorse: enHANCE
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Nigouki: the mating resistors?
Strebenherz: is there some red splooge under those resistors?
DigitalSeahorse: red under resistors?
Texan_Reverend: @RealGamerCow At least some of it is usually build up of actual tar. So, there's an amount that can be cleaned off, but you're right that it is likely to not get back to its original color.
SnackPak_: in parallel
RealGamerCow: when you don't have the right value resistor
jhmv: uhhh
Cptasparagus: baby resistors are being made
TomatoKigu: Smaller
Strebenherz: also: why that
jhmv: that would make a smaller resistor
DeM0nFiRe: This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them
Thefluffiestguineapig: Huh
jhmv: they're in paralllel
DoctorHutch: what makes a smaller resistor not a bigger one
DigitalSeahorse: aww they're soo in love hey just couldn't RESIST!
Xed_Regulus: Isn't what they are doing against Twitch TOS?
TomatoKigu: Parallel makes smaller
TheNerdWonder: I don't remember my circuits class. How does resistance work in parallel?
chaos5896: Now, kiss!
Strebenherz:
@LoadingReadyRun 
"I mean it's not working now"
gsyhiap: Is that... joining the resistance? ✊
GreyThey: If Ian is looking for a specific label, he could crowdsource via chat - take a few photos and post a link here. Many eyes make quick work. 👀
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DoctorHutch: time to try, mr horner.
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Kentosaurus: I like the coat rack type thing for cable management
DigitalSeahorse:
irresistible you
UWDJohn: 2 in parallel probably so they can handle the power dissipation better.
FuzzRaTheBarelyLiving: It's a thing. Either combining to reach a specific lower value or to effectively increase wattage
TomatoKigu: "Surprise, this is the singular revision without test points"
gsyhiap: PB6643-1
TomatoKigu: PB6643-1
LordZarano: PB6643-1
farley_f: PB 86 75 309-1
farley_f: yeah thats my standard for number jokes
e_bloc: that's PB 66(4+3-1)
Kentosaurus: oh, that must be near the turboencabulator
shushu2539: an AI troubleshooting guide might told you to chew the live cables
DigitalSeahorse: ugh
gsyhiap: Ew
Aenir798:
add -ai to every search
gsyhiap: LLMs are always certain
jhmv: I've heard a third affair has hit Nvidia
niccus: LLMs are optimized to convince people that it does a good job
chaos5896: !paullove
LRRbot: It's not Paul's fault, no matter what the streamer says.
Texan_Reverend: @jhmv True, but this isn't the place for that discussion.
DigitalSeahorse:
ErynTzun: The lesson is don't be an Alf
Lord_Hosk: Look for the Pin TP2 next to the open slot... and you are a very handsome man Paul, that was a great question for you to ask.
chaos5896:
LordZarano: PB 73×7×13 -1
Sethalidos: nope clearly it's Safety Third TM
chaos5896: Why didn't they put the warnings BEFORE the spells?
chaos5896:
DigitalSeahorse: who would register them these days?
RockPusher: Ah good, the stream is still live, probably means we haven't had too much in the way of Incidents™
RockPusher: Epic Games (a good, local one)
DigitalSeahorse: not THAT Epic Games
gsyhiap:
The Canadian 'Eh-pic' games?
Strebenherz: yeah please don't zap yourself ian
chaos5896: *slowly glances at Fortnite* lol
Strebenherz: Desertbus wouldn't be the same without 800+ "IAN"s
DoodlestheGreat: Sponsored by Nvidia. Anyone got a lightly used CEO we can use?
Drasvin:
High voltage is spooky.
ErynTzun: Good move not risking death, let a pro do it if willing
Thefluffiestguineapig: @RockPusher Ian has not said "Ow" audibly yet
chaos5896: Alex, you got the safety 2x4, right?
Strebenherz: @DoodlestheGreat "lightly used ceo" is a phrase i will be flushing from my brain to the best of my ability
DeM0nFiRe: Is it worth trying to turn it on again after you shoved a component back in place?
GreyThey: If you share the photos with chat, we can crowdsource looking for it
RockPusher: We choose to refurbish the arcade machine! Not because it is easy, but because it seemed cool at the time!
DoodlestheGreat: @Strebenherz Good luck on that. It bored into my brain back in thr 70's.
DigitalSeahorse: eep
RockPusher: It Works (too well)
TomatoKigu: Isopropyl alcohol might work, should be safe (in theory)
RockPusher: orange oil based cleaners I've found reasonably effective on the odd occasion I've had to do plastic cleaning
sirzechs_666: Hydrogen Peroxide Maybe
DigitalSeahorse: could try nail polish but that would probably wipe off plastic like the remover would
shushu2539: once its fixed, can we play desert bus on it?
RockPusher:
DigitalSeahorse acetone being the core component of what is commonly called nail polish remover 
DigitalSeahorse: yup
QuixoticScrivener: Are our tautologies pleonastic?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @shushu2539 First question will be what game is actually on it?
DigitalSeahorse:
DigitalSeahorse: I wonder if the nonAI source read the AI source
Cptasparagus: degauss until the work is done
TomatoKigu:
Making an open hardware replacement board for arcade CRTs could be a fun project to work on.
RockPusher cracks his bus gatcha pack
DigitalSeahorse: and the one more test run to see if it fixed itself
TomatoKigu: @RockPusher You gotta' tell us what you got
NotCainNorAbel: @RockPusher jealous
Juliamon: lol I JUST finished up packing up the bus I'm trading
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RockPusher: The haul is: 3 yellow, 1 red with the cream windows, 2 "mystery rare"
TheMerricat:
@TomatoKigu There are a number of bones bare projects out there that state their intent to be such. The fact that they are all mostly barebone and don't have pictures of their success stories suggests that perhaps... it's not _that_ fun of a project to work on.
RockPusher: 1.21 Jiggawatts!
Shadowsoflife working?
DigitalSeahorse: it's working at the same level as it was at start of show
e_bloc: going to a farm upstate
ArtDecoSunburn: What is the actual game on this arcade unit?
TomatoKigu:
@TheMerricat Never underestimate the autistic desire to make stuff. 
IanAllenBird:
e_bloc: friend computer
DigitalSeahorse:
shushu2539: !break
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chaos5896: !break
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Texan_Reverend: Help a computer.
Texan_Reverend: Stop all the downloadin!
e_bloc: porkchop sandwiches?
RockPusher:
I bought snacks that I can't eat right now on the way back from Teeth Stuff™ which is good for future me but present me kinda resents
Texan_Reverend: Don't give him the stick!
Julian_Rogue: I like the piano music
ErynTzun: jazzy
RockPusher: Turns out LRR have commissioned some quality music over the years for various things
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TomatoKigu: …wonder if altium still costs like five gazillion dollars…
RockPusher: It isn't cheap - it's on my todo list for a bandcamp day where my wallet hasn't been beaten up by bus and teeth
TomatoKigu: Oh good, they swapped from perpetual license to subscription model, only 2k a year. 🙃
RockPusher: I assume it is just auto-pricing the collection at the default $1 per track
TomatoKigu:
TomatoKigu: Sounds like we're talking about different things; Altium designer, eCAD software?
RockPusher:
RockPusher:
I misread altium up after I posted the bandcamp link as album
TomatoKigu: oh lol
RockPusher:
human communication is hard 
TomatoKigu: Agreed.
TomatoKigu: Easy to resolve tho, just gotta' spot the pattern mismatch
RockPusher:
We also have an HDMI 1
SnackPak_: o7
greatknightgaramond: My two favorite bois!
DigitalSeahorse: *noms the halloween candy obtained from Museums and various locations in Victoria BC
e_bloc: that sounds really useful
DrakoniteDev: every one is still alive, and when dealing with CRTs that is a victory
DigitalSeahorse:
DigitalSeahorse:
ghyllnox: So do you put weights on it, or what?
RockPusher: The fluorescent backlights were chunkier than you might have thought
DrakoniteDev: kick adapter!
A_Dub888: So its not going to help me kick a board in half?
WriterRaven: Get Equipped with Kick Harness
Juliamon: Punch Only
Kentosaurus: everything is kicker harness
RealGamerCow: but there are 6 buttons on that console, right?
RockPusher: You really did get an oddball machine
e_bloc:
@Kentosaurus
DigitalSeahorse: candy from the Bug Zoo was very melted out of shape
DigitalSeahorse: but still tasty
DrakoniteDev: arcade cabs were also heavily reused, so most games were designed for adapting older cabs. when a game loses popularity you'd just replace the mainboard and marque graphics
DigitalSeahorse:
RockPusher: Wood! It's Good!
Shadowsoflife: ^
chaos5896:
farley_f: Wood - its Groot
e_bloc: t h i c c
DrakoniteDev: I mean, you have no idea how many arcade machines had everything mounted to a random piece of plywood that just sat on the bottom of the cab
Shadowsoflife: snack ports?
RockPusher: I've managed switches where the stacking system was HDMI ports and cables
smertmonkey: wait, im curious now
RockPusher: Which frankly was the best stacking setup I've ever experienced
shushu2539:
TheFragranceOfDarkCoffee: Ayyy, that's a MiSTer menu!
e_bloc: hello mister
Shadowsoflife:
ContingentCat:
Shadowsoflife: wait
DoctorHutch: i remeber socapex headaches from my concert lighting days like 15+ years ago....my bones....
RockPusher: Alex Kidd looking sadly at Sonic's celebrity status
TheFragranceOfDarkCoffee: Might have to futz with the INI settings, yeah
RockPusher:
2Flower: This stream is making me wanna fire up my carefully-curated launchbox frontend.
e_bloc: not the kind of boot test they do in the UK
gsyhiap: Honestly I'm glad that's the first "Ow" I've heard out of Ian tonight, and he's not fiddling with the CRT
SnackPak_:
DigitalSeahorse:
TheFragranceOfDarkCoffee: CRTs, not for the faint of heart! Dangerous to go poking around the guts!
epsilon_vee: mhz will be the dot clock
DigitalSeahorse:
DigitalSeahorse:
TomatoKigu: I like that the mrcade is running time in UTC
gsyhiap: Just realised that the clock on this system is set to my timezone
TomatoKigu:
Nah, UTC is perfect, I like UTC.
TheNerdWonder: that's def Euro time. I assume UTC yeah
WriterRaven: 1942-2
e_bloc: oh hey they have vampire survivor
DrakoniteDev: UTC FTW. get rid of timezones!
DigitalSeahorse: just like how it's still 2020
Shadowsoflife:
like how we had 2020 for a few years 
e_bloc: world heroes slapped
Shadowsoflife: ^
DigitalSeahorse: zip
Shadowsoflife: @e_bloc Each other
e_bloc: @Shadowsoflife so many times
Shadowsoflife: @e_bloc It was a real slap fight
MacbethSeemsSus: I see we're dealing with 99% of tech problems; making two pieces of sand talk to each other
RockPusher:
I approve of using what is I presume a /24 that isn't .0 or .1
DigitalSeahorse: yup
Cptasparagus: the Ur-cade
DigitalSeahorse: sand loves to talk if it can recognize itself
RockPusher: Nopesteroid
Shadowsoflife: whelp
LurkerSpine: could pull the card before starting over yeah?
iris_of_ether:
DigitalSeahorse:
Nigouki: that almost sounded like a QWERPLINE segment about physical media
e_bloc: NASA for some reason is coming to Canada
jhmv: a squad of Nintendo lawyers has been dispatched
shushu2539: is it hunter2 too?
DigitalSeahorse: mine too!
TheNerdWonder: that's the password for my luggage!
Zu_o: Asteroid police here, we see you've not been to space since before you were borrn!
iris_of_ether:
Play Asteroids the way we did: on an oscilloscope in EE201 lab while ignoring the professor
TomatoKigu: **** is such an insecure password, better change it to dickbutt
RTwo28: thx Tinker Tailor and Ian for reminding me to fix my GPU drivers on my Linux laptop
e_bloc: ****** is old and busted, I use buttslol
DigitalSeahorse:
@Zu_o 
epsilon_vee:
changing your password to "*" for great justice 
DigitalSeahorse:
@Zu_o 
e_bloc: ms paint
TomatoKigu: Lowkey expected Ian to be an xfce user.
GlennSeto: dd
epsilon_vee:
^
SnackPak_: raspberry pi has a decent one
Kentosaurus: @GlennSeto lol
RockPusher: Nowadays my usage is general just dd
DrakoniteDev: dd or raspberrypi flasher
LordZarano: KDE iso image writer is good and simple
DigitalSeahorse:
TomatoKigu: To dd or not to dd, that is the question
DrakoniteDev: the rpi flasher works very well but is slightly confusing when flashing non-rpi images
shushu2539: used to use balena etcher
wholsometiger: @DigitalSeahorse Where are you getting these emotes? They're great!
ArdCollider: update_all may need you to check settings
ArdCollider: if that's what that thing uses
ArdCollider: (I have an Analogue Pocket for my personal FPGA hell)
TomatoKigu: Speaking of posixy things; Anyone got any recs for alternatives to screen for serial tty?
DigitalSeahorse:
@wholsometiger from Vicksy's alt channel Wixels 
LurkerSpine: Is there no way to read the ROMs on the card?
wholsometiger: @DigitalSeahorse Thanks
DrakoniteDev: @TomatoKigu tmux ?
RockPusher: TomatoKigu my unserstanding is tmux is more popular than screen nowadays
TomatoKigu: tmux does not do serial tty
TomatoKigu: Does everything else screen does tho
RockPusher: oh, yeah, nah I still tend to reach for screen for serial
DigitalSeahorse:
TomatoKigu: @RockPusher Rats. I'm trying to de-gnu my life, so been looking at options lol.
ArdCollider: can you get picocom working these days? the github repo is 10 years old
DigitalSeahorse:
ArdCollider: picocom/ minicom inside tmux (or screen inside tmux) is the sort of Reddit general advice
RTwo28: oh?
Wrexadecimal: yorp.
Too_Many_Knives: One more password miss and the OS reports you to Santa
TomatoKigu: Caps lock?
RTwo28: (Its just dickbutt 80 times)
DigitalSeahorse: with the right pw
Too_Many_Knives: Changing passwords is like having a small stroke
iris_of_ether:
is truly a state of mind
GrathXVI: Ian, it could be worse. One time, while I worked at Google, my manager started projecting his laptop screen during a team meeting and the tab open in his Chrome was a Google Sheets spreadsheet with all his passwords in it.
TomatoKigu: SuperSecurePassword1!
epsilon_vee: they give the terminal awful funny names
DrakoniteDev: @Too_Many_Knives "small"
iris_of_ether: @GrathXVI Oh *no*
farley_f: its D1ck3u!!
shushu2539: have you tried 4?
SnackPak_: do you have any good kittens, Ian?
LurkerSpine: Why 10 minutes though?
adept_nekomancer: "4" (chosen by dice roll; guaranteed to be a secure random password)
Too_Many_Knives: @adept_nekomancer Been working at any certificate authorities lately?
DigitalSeahorse:
*noms a Center Shock candy* 
e_bloc:
DrakoniteDev: just curious (no judgement), which distro are you using, Ian?
adept_nekomancer:
@Too_Many_Knives Totally not an internet-breaking security issue, I'm sure it's fine.
omdorastrix: or dickbutt
LurkerSpine: Alternatively: Don't reuse passwords
e_bloc: fore
RTwo28: or dickbutt4?
iris_of_ether: The new hotness is clearly "5"
Juliamon: You Will Certainly Not Regret Using 4 As Your Password
MacbethSeemsSus: We know "4" is a great password after last month
A_Dub888: 4, four, for, or fore?
omdorastrix: fordickbuttfore4
ErynTzun: What ever happened the good old classics 1234 and password
TomatoKigu: Password can also be A 300 times.
e_bloc: four is death
farley_f: what about if your password is Fore
Too_Many_Knives: @adept_nekomancer I like the theory that they were using a tutorial or blindly following StackOverflow instructions and didn't realize their mistake.
iris_of_ether: You need to add some numbers intermixed, clearly. "f0r3"
omdorastrix: @TomatoKigu Not 299 not 301 - and one of them is Upper Case
farley_f: speaking of passwords and such if you have Humble Bundle please check your account after todays news
SnackPak_:
Too_Many_Knives: Alex did you hear about Humble Bundle?
ghyllnox: *Screams*
eshplode: That's just modern security
DrakoniteDev: plz no alex, you hurt me
RockPusher cries in infosec
Drasvin:
AugmentingPath: it's a very very mad world
Sethalidos: pretty sure that's why Exchange is down everywhere right now
LoadingReadyRun: It perfect not system
gsyhiap cries in just wanting my regular tech to be secure
DigitalSeahorse:
wow, Center Shock 
is sour
omdorastrix: You laugh, we laugh, the printer laughs - I [office space] the printer...
A_Dub888: @LoadingReadyRun you're perfect
TomatoKigu: @omdorastrix That would be so annoying to type haha. Was referencing that bug in musl that made ssh password authentication let anyone in with any password over 256 characters. 🙃
Too_Many_Knives: Seriously though if you have a Humble Bundle account I have bad news for you
MacbethSeemsSus: Yeah if you have a humble bundle account you should check on it....
ArdCollider: Make sure update_all is set to actually get your ROMs.
Too_Many_Knives: infosec high five @MacbethSeemsSus
ErynTzun: I am so glad that I use privay dot com virtual cards instead of real credit card info, eff humblebundle for using AI to redesign their damn site. You not only cannot remove your payment method on file, but you can't cancel. You can only pause the bundle for one month.
ArdCollider: some versions of it are set not to, per Reddit
ArdCollider: thx, Alex
LordZarano: If 4 is too insecure why not try 56, 66, 115, 155, or 156?
farley_f: when there are pirate websites out there with better security than Humble Bundle
ErynTzun: It removed two factor authentication in the redesign via app
DrakoniteDev: I work in tech. My bday and xmas gifts to myself this year are all emergency supplies... I'm not saying those two sentences are related, but I'm unsure how to finish this sentence.
TomatoKigu:
oh yeah humble bundle…heard they vibe slopped their entire new website, and nuked all 2fa in the process.
Too_Many_Knives: PCI DSS is going to have their arse
RockPusher:
Too_Many_Knives it's fine, they can't send the bad emails if MS makes the email not work 
adept_nekomancer: @LordZarano Render it in binary as 100 -- now it's three digits instead of one!
TheNerdWonder: when you run the update_all, check your settings. Apparently at one point the default was "don't download roms"
farley_f:
if your going with a numbers based password listen to my friend Tommy - 8675309
DiscordianTokkan: Hey chat, here's a question. What's a good Linux for people that are absolutely new at Linux, but want to get away from Windows as painlessly as possible. (Is it just, like, SteamOS or something?)
GlennSeto: Mint seems to work for a lotta folks these days
Juliamon: DiscordianTokkan Depends, how much slop are you willing to accept?
ErynTzun: humble bundle is still randomly sending two factor codes, just not via the app which is better than via e-mail or anything else.
TheNerdWonder: Mint's been my intro distro for a while now
DiscordianTokkan: @Juliamon ... Depends on what Slop means in this context, lol
Juliamon: Mint is generally the go-to nowadays
DrakoniteDev: @DiscordianTokkan Kubuntu is what i recommend. There are many good options
LoadingReadyRun: If you have a Humble acount, what is it reccomended to do?
RockPusher: Yup - I had to write CDs that way
DigitalSeahorse: lol yup
gsyhiap: @ErynTzun I just checked mine and it sent a code via email
SnackPak_: remember when cds had to go into a caddy?
farley_f: Holy Yipes
omdorastrix: 1x Vs the ORIGINAL CDRom implementation
DiscordianTokkan: I'll have to give Mint and Kubuntu a look, thanks all!
DigitalSeahorse: it would take a good long while too
TheMerricat: Yes
LordZarano: Bazzite is one I've seen frequently recommended
glitched_goddess: Remember CD wallets?
Shadowsoflife: Yes
farley_f: my earliest memory for disc copying was for the C64 - when you have 2 disc drives and you could copy one floppy to another using programs such as Nibbler
TheNerdWonder: yep. My dad's business lived on Jazz drives for a while
Nigouki:
I miss the ka-chunk of insertable media
DrakoniteDev: @DiscordianTokkan Mint is slightly more windows like than kubuntu, but isn't quite as mature. Both are good choices.
Shadowsoflife: @glitched_goddess I have one with in reach
TomatoKigu: Anyone got a SyQuest drive?
farley_f: @LoadingReadyRun in all seriousness if you have payment systems attach withdraw them. The reason being the 2FA is bonked so you run the risk of having your account stolen
Kentosaurus: disk destroyer
GasCityGaming: I remember burning MP3 CD's where they took up file size rather than run time. I even had a discman that accepted them.
gsyhiap: It stands for Dataset Definition, apparently
e_bloc: oh yeah
e_bloc: it was a wild time
pimiento: cd changers were swanky af
farley_f: YES ALEX - My parents had one in ther car
Shadowsoflife: It was a time
NotCainNorAbel: I remeber swapping 5 of 6 disks every way-station
glitched_goddess: People used t spend more on their CD changer than their car
DiscordianTokkan: It made for interesting long car trips, for sure. Especially when we hit the Anne Murray disc
Varmint260: The CD player in my '97 pickup reads mp3 CDs. I still have a couple of them
DrakoniteDev: dd name is reference to a statement in an old language (JCL), which in that case stood for "Data Definition"
ErynTzun: @LoadingReadyRun I would recommend checking your account to see if it allows you to remove your payment method because it does not allow it right now. if you do not trust only having sending 2 factor codes at random, and no option to use an app for two factor at the moment. Some have had luck cancelling entirely.
DrakoniteDev: the dd app itself doesn't stand for anything AFAIK
pimiento: dd! get out of my lab
TomatoKigu: isn't the syntax dd if=/path/to/file of=/path/to/dest
DigitalSeahorse: Deep Downloads
Shadowsoflife: But I like the words- says the writer
TheNerdWonder: there's a joke about using dexter instead of dd out there somewhere
gsyhiap: @DrakoniteDev See, I've written and used JCL, and I never knew that Unix DD was based on that
RTwo28: Alex are you eating Fedoras?
glitched_goddess: Delicious red hat
RockPusher: Android codenames used to be desserts
RealGamerCow: isn;t there a mint linux?
Shadowsoflife: but way?
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Drasvin: There is Linux Mint, which uses the Cinnamon desktop
Varmint260: I have Cinnamon Mint on one laptop
e_bloc: and boba
TheNerdWonder: android is a flavor of linux, isn't it? Or have they moved to some new custom thing?
RockPusher: Debian codenames are Toy Story characters
DigitalSeahorse: and then mac started using big cat names eventually
DrakoniteDev: @gsyhiap to be fair, I had to look it up. I knew it was a ref to something though
SnackPak_: I love that Sid is the unstable branch
RockPusher: Ubuntu codenames are <Adjective> <Animal> sharing an initial letter rotating through the alphabet
calculated_uncertainties: I love that that bit of slang is still alive and well
e_bloc: fdisk is short for find disk right
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wedge_x: yes
DiscordianTokkan: Sure do
Strebenherz: use WHAT?
glitched_goddess: You’re still on Cumin? All the kids are on White Pepper now
Wrexadecimal: Yes.
farley_f: yes
SnackPak_: itll never die
GasCityGaming: yeah, former geeksquad employee and we did
DrakoniteDev: yep
TheNerdWonder: PEBKAC
DigitalSeahorse:
I'm still on basic cinnamon 
and ginger
Strebenherz: oh that
TheWriterAleph: i love pebcak and ID-10T
Vinewood_OG: If you got that reference, this is your reminder to take some ibuprofen for your back.
DigitalSeahorse: heheheheh
ErynTzun: I don't see PEBKAC used so much anymore
Strebenherz: OKAY i've heard versions of that but didn't realize
Wrexadecimal: Or the fancy IT term codeword for it: Layer 8 error in the OSI model.
e_bloc: it's been a minute since I've heard that one
DrakoniteDev: PEBCAK and ID-10-T
ErynTzun: FUBAR also is used less
iDangero: I've always known it as a PICNIC problem - Problem In Chair, Not In Computer
DigitalSeahorse:
PEBKAC
JKBalch: My highschool typing class had a PEBKAC award every month
e_bloc: 'operator error' is about as fancy as it gets around me
epsilon_vee: was it only 14mb?
LoadingReadyRun:
hmm, my 2FA email for humble seemed to come through🤷♂️
DrakoniteDev: or my favorite "wetware problem"
jhmv: in portuguese you can use BIOS (besta ignorante operando sistema - ignorant animal operating system)
farley_f: i wonder if Microsoft is currently Experiencing PEBKAC
ErynTzun: Bork I still use a lot, how many people know who Robert Bork is?
Strebenherz: oh no
e_bloc: I'm hoping Microsoft can fix their problems by tomorrow morning so I can email in sick
Vinewood_OG: My bonessssss
TheWriterAleph:
@jhmv love that
TomatoKigu: "is that a 3D printed save icon?"
glitched_goddess: As I crumble to dust lol
ArtDecoSunburn: @ErynTzun I sadly have to think about Bork most weeks, alas.
farley_f: @DigitalSeahorse its causing so much havoc with my work currently, RIP us mad maxers
NotCainNorAbel: I asked my team to imagine the time before the Internet and then was reminded that at least 2/3 of my team was born well beyond that time
Vinewood_OG: Had to use the floppies for number munchers in the computer lab
pimiento: i used genuine floppy disks because we had an old computer
Shadowsoflife: We had some of the real floppy disk
e_bloc: oh man I forgot all about zip drives
RockPusher: Arguably the 5 1/4 were not the "floppy" disk that gave them the floppy name
DigitalSeahorse: I've used 5 inch floppy disks
tipulsar85: I Remember M.U.L.E...
ArdCollider: 8"
Sarah_Serinde: I remember the actually floppy disks from elementary school
RockPusher: I think the bigger mainframe stuff really coined the floppy
ErynTzun: @ArtDecoSunburn oof
UnknownFriday: In the 3.5" disk case, floppy refers to the medium inside the disk, which is similar to magnetic tape, as opposed to a "hard" disk, which was made from metal.
DigitalSeahorse: F is for FLASH
DigitalSeahorse: F
tipulsar85: 8" was also used on IMSAI machines.
wedge_x: LTO baby
ErynTzun: I am so tired of the word Vibe, and AI doesn't deserve even that word associated with it.
RockPusher: FAA were talking about eliminating floppy disks from ATC *this year*
farley_f: @Sarah_Serinde same - i grew up with the apple 2 e when i was in primary
ArtDecoSunburn: Strategic defense computers still use a variety of dated formats. Including FORTRAN.
7gorobei: bah whippersnappers, i remember storing stuff on audio cassette tapes
e_bloc: god I got so good at carrying around 40 LTO at a time
TomatoKigu: FujiFilm even quadroupled their LTO production faciliteis this year, to meet increased demand in data tape.
DrakoniteDev: tape is by far the best archive media still
epsilon_vee: yeah i think you only got a partial write there with that i/o error
Wrexadecimal: Banks still use COBOL.
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adept_nekomancer: Vibecoded missile launch system: "You're absolutely right, I shouldn't have launched that overwhelming first strike at South Dakota."
Thefluffiestguineapig: The US's welfare system is deliberately shit
ArtDecoSunburn: Banks, insurance companies, and universities still extensively use magnetic tape.
Capt_clown: Was just gonna mention COBOL
Vinewood_OG: Have they consulted a Ouija board?
RealGamerCow: I learned Fortran!
Thefluffiestguineapig: And they won't improve it
NotCainNorAbel: My old job was trying to do the same thing
Strebenherz:
my first computer was a... win95? still feel weird thinking about it having 4gb hard drive and now the shit we have... like casually flash drives with hundreds of gigs 
e_bloc: I worked at a physical data tape center for 10+ years, from LTOs all the way back to magnetic reels
TomatoKigu: Bug free code standards still exists! Notably at JPL. You can read their code specs.
Capt_clown: We were still using DOS in 2006 in the military.... let that sink in...
DigitalSeahorse: blue screen!
TheNerdWonder: When I was doing my Comp Sci masters, I was the TA for a COBOL class. I got to learn the language along with the students
niccus: not on physical systems
TomatoKigu: You can! It requires very very very skilled people to do it.
ErynTzun: I see customers still complaining because MicroCenter's registers still use Putty. You think the nerds that run the company care? lol they're lucky the actual card and interface that face the customer were updated.
ArtDecoSunburn: I've written about this as an academic, Alex. Social Security still runs extensively on FORTRAN and COBOL. The Woodlawn Center in Baltimore.
ContingentCat: Hypothetically
kdefinition: it has to be really simple
e_bloc: the code is 3 lines long
RockPusher: Capt_clown a PABX I had oversight over well into the 2010s was DOS based
tipulsar85: Bug free code? Just use pesticide!
TheNerdWonder: and then ended up in a job where our program actually generated COBOL modules. Serendipity's a heck of a thing
DrakoniteDev: bug free is impossible if the complexity is over a certain level
MacbethSeemsSus: It's true, zero programming languages have passed the Ice Pick Test
TomatoKigu: JPL having bug free code standards for a very very good reason…you don't want bugs in space ship computer systems.
Drasvin: Bug-free code is impossible due to the halting problem.
ArtDecoSunburn: A lot of Windows 98 still in the US Treasury and IRS.
e_bloc: some sort of shittification completeness theorem
SkylerRingtail: Depends how you define "bug." In my QA work, my definition is "anything that reduces the value of the system for a favored stakeholder." Which gets into design bugs, not just code bugs.
adept_nekomancer: Spaceships aren't that difficult... have we tried setting SCE to AUX?
MacbethSeemsSus: Yeah you can't fix a flipped bit several hundred thousand miles from IT
DrakoniteDev: the real trick is engineering code so when something does go wrong it handles it safely
DigitalSeahorse: I've determined that Center Shock is a long lasting flavor gum
RockPusher: We'll go there, then we'll be there!
ArtDecoSunburn: @TomatoKigu That goes back to Margaret Hamilton and the Apollo Guidance Computer. Resilient software engineering. I did an obituary for her last month.
SnackPak_: sweet little baby
TomatoKigu:
Margaret Hamilton.
Nigouki: @adept_nekomancer Was that Apollo...12? THe one that got struck by lightning on launch?
adept_nekomancer: @Nigouki Yep, that's the one!
ErynTzun: I don't know what is worse, dealing with Win98 through XP on a daily basis, or dealing with Windows 11 Enterprise updates that my telecom does. Because of course there is a special image of it for our company, so you never know what is going to get completely borked with an update.
DigitalSeahorse:
ArtDecoSunburn: @SkylerRingtail Down at the Smithsonian we have the original "computer bug," the moth that Grace Hopper plucked out of the Harvard Mark II.
ErynTzun: Ahh yes the coiner of the word Bug
ArtDecoSunburn: @ErynTzun Ugh. You have my sympathy. Either route sounds awful.
TomatoKigu:
Grace Hopper, another real one. Gotta' love COBOL.
Drasvin: Fallback code.
RockPusher: ArtDecoSunburn the notion of Carmen Sandiego stealing *The* computer bug tickles me
ArtDecoSunburn: @ErynTzun A perk of working there with those collections -- I've held the original "bug."
Kentosaurus: >iferror >go to level select
ArtDecoSunburn: @RockPusher As a museum curator, we're always on the lookout for brunettes in red trench coats.
SkylerRingtail: @ArtDecoSunburn If I ever make it out your way, I'll have to check it out! Gonna be busy with my LIS graduate program here, soon. Also workshopping a PhD idea...
Voidhawk42: The paradox of testing: the moment a test becomes a goal, passing it becomes more important than the data it was meant to harvest
DrakoniteDev: My fav is one of the ratchet and clank games on PS2 that had online play. There was a bug, but no patching on PS2, so they figured out they could cause a buffer overflow on the ToS screen (that downloads from the server) and use that to patch the game when playing online.
RockPusher: ArtDecoSunburn they were last seen leaving in a car flying a red, white, and blue flag
epsilon_vee: gyroscopes in inertial navigation systems are basically magic
ErynTzun: @ArtDecoSunburn Like I have not worked for a company that used the any old OS in a long while, but there just is no winning because they all stink at updates even if Enterprise updates are significantly delayed.
DigitalSeahorse: so it subtracks where it isn't from where it is
LordZarano: @DiscordianTokkan If you like reading wikis then I would highly recommend CachyOS + the Arch Linux Wiki. If you do not like reading wikis then absolutely do not do that
ArtDecoSunburn: @TomatoKigu She was a nifty lady. I was supposed to meet with her this fall, but she passed away that week. She lived a nice life -- 90.
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DigitalSeahorse: suptracts*
adept_nekomancer: The problem with re-usable missiles is that the enemy doesn't usually want to give them back.
GlennSeto: I was thinking potential mecha joint actuator, butI guess my inner child just wants nice (?) things.
ArtDecoSunburn: @RockPusher "Hit it, Rockapella!"
Thefluffiestguineapig: As someone on Medicaid who lost my SNAP (food stamps) due to issues in their system, the US and states can get fucked because they are trying to make it fail. They already make it so difficult to apply for and keep
ArtDecoSunburn: @SkylerRingtail Good luck to you.
ErynTzun: @ArtDecoSunburn That would be so cool to work at a place like that
GlennSeto: Blue mage
TomatoKigu: @ArtDecoSunburn ouch, that's unfortunate timing.
Foxmar320: @Thefluffiestguineapig I had to fight for months early this year to get my SNAP back. It's real hard right now.
GlennSeto: ooooh
e_bloc:
DigitalSeahorse:
Strebenherz: oh it's the missingno of ff6
SkylerRingtail: @ArtDecoSunburn Thank you kindly. Also been making a name for myself in local politics, so things are getting...complicated. XD
Thefluffiestguineapig: @Foxmar320 Oh I'm trying to fight for that, but the big thing is the Medicaid fuck ups right npw
ArtDecoSunburn: @Thefluffiestguineapig It's a long, sad history. The states and their systems have failed those who need help most. Also, I'll message you some names I've researched whom you might contact for legal advice.
GlennSeto: and yet I still save all my elixirs for Kefka
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ArtDecoSunburn Ah thank you so much. I will also pass that on to my therapist because if I don't use it they know others who will
Juliamon: man, I don't even want to *think* about the mess Medicaid is gonna be in come January
7gorobei: actually if you look at the profits of the defense industry vs an apple, meta, google or nvidia; the defense industry is actually pretty small. the revenue looks big because jets and ships are massive budgets, but the profit is small
DigitalSeahorse:
Mister 
ArtDecoSunburn: @ErynTzun It's a nice job. I gave up the tenure track for museum life. A different sort of academia.
ErynTzun: I still do not understand people who vilify anyone for going on any kind of assistance, it's extremely difficult to get it at all. There has to be a minuscule amount of people who are faking the need for it.
Shadowsoflife: @GlennSeto At lease you used them
Thefluffiestguineapig: Genuinely, PLEASE work together to advocate
e_bloc: worked on Zoma in DW3
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ErynTzun The process to apply for it I don't know how you COULD fake it
SkylerRingtail: @Juliamon I'm one of the ones set to lose coverage, unless I can convince the state that volunteering for fandom conventions counts toward the 80 hours...
MacbethSeemsSus: "I'm alive! This is terrible!"
DrakoniteDev: oh bus. i forgot I was on the work clock for the past hour...
GlennSeto: @shadowsoflife Well yes, it's not Chrono Trigger where NG+ means you NEVER use elixirs.
ErynTzun: @Thefluffiestguineapig I never had it myself but my mom had it when I was a kid when she was going back to college for a bit, we didn't get a whole like like 20 bucks a week for very basic items.
ArtDecoSunburn: @Thefluffiestguineapig I've got a chapter on the introduction of Medicaid and SSI in the book I'm writing now. Computer problems with welfare go back to the 1970s.
Thefluffiestguineapig: @SkylerRingtail So what I am doing is I have volunteer hours at a shelter, and also my externship for school SHOULD COUNT but they are so fucked right now because they don't have the forms, they don't have any guidelines
DigitalSeahorse:
Shadowsoflife: @GlennSeto Right it NG+ you're like lvl 99
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ArtDecoSunburn In Ohio the website sometimes doesn't reliably submit documents NOW
ErynTzun: Alex is Helping voice
ArtDecoSunburn: @ErynTzun A lot of blame goes to Reagan and Gingrich. They popularized the false notion of racialized "welfare queens."
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ErynTzun Also the Saving 2x4
GlennSeto: Preferable to Alex I'm in danger voice
e_bloc: growing up on WIC (which I think was essentially food stamps back then), any time the government makes aid harder to receive it makes me rage
DoodlestheGreat: Despite everything, it's still an arcade cabinet.
DrakoniteDev: Does anyone have recommendations on where to buy a MISTer? Or is it only DIY right now?
Thefluffiestguineapig: @ArtDecoSunburn As soon as the majority of recipients were not white, they wanted to dismantle it
Shadowsoflife: @Thefluffiestguineapig What could be the problem I had today
pimiento: mister addons is where i got mine
DigitalSeahorse: pfft
DrakoniteDev:
ok, so just DIY now, and high in price 
pimiento: mister addons has nice cases for them too
Juliamon: It's been a lovely evening
e_bloc: I learned a number of things today
DigitalSeahorse:
we touched it
e_bloc: and best of all no one got injured
GlennSeto: MISTer hardware is not cheap right now. I keep checking in and keep being reminded that my RPi5 and good emulation cores are a thing.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Well at least you know the CRT is more broken than you thought?
ArtDecoSunburn: @TheNerdWonder That's a valuable skill. Gives you a great sense of software history.
Thefluffiestguineapig: Or broken in a different way?
Kuhfeek: Thanks for the stream
ArtDecoSunburn: @Juliamon Hear, hear!
pimiento:
DigitalSeahorse: hehe funny beanie
ErynTzun:
@ArtDecoSunburn Yes my tiny little mother going to school and working part time, for twenty frigging dollars a week what a thief. 
I don't have any nice words for either of those two POS
Herbert_Erpaderp:
TomatoKigu: muted
Strebenherz: sound off
DoodlestheGreat: Sound?
Shadowsoflife: o/
shushu2539:
ErynTzun: MIC 5
NotCainNorAbel:
500
DigitalSeahorse: mmuted
ErynTzun:
Sethalidos: lol
DigitalSeahorse: and I'm getting ads!
DigitalSeahorse: aaaaaaa
Juliamon: it's just the coming-up
ghyllnox: Yeah, same, ads rab
TomatoKigu: Will it actually be a fortnite to next time tho? That would be nice
ghyllnox: *ran
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ghyllnox: Thanks for the stream o/
DoodlestheGreat: Checkpoint was great today.
Juliamon: Go watch Checkpoint, watch the delightful saga unfold
TheNerdWonder: @ArtDecoSunburn it was interesting for sure. Even got to use the knowledge when I got my current job. Those were interesting times
DigitalSeahorse:
trivago isn't the way to get the lowest possible anyhow
farley_f: will anyone tomorrow night have a BK deck box
ArtDecoSunburn: @ErynTzun It's infuriating how some in power have so little empathy for fellow humans. We're all on this blue marble together.
e_bloc: oh yeah
RockPusher: Tell Dale.
DigitalSeahorse: 10 sec left
DigitalSeahorse: there I'm back
aquinas_0: more Dice Friends is always awesome
Juliamon: nyoro~n
ArtDecoSunburn: What's AFK next week?
DigitalSeahorse: fa fa west
Juliamon: alert sound!
DigitalSeahorse: wa wa west
ErynTzun: Far Far West is a 1-4 player co-op sci-fi Western PvE shooter developed by Evil Raptor.
e_bloc: wicky wicky
DeM0nFiRe: Warcraft for about 3 hours
MacbethSeemsSus:
DigitalSeahorse: hehe
Strebenherz: LRR animecon
62MGcobra: close enough
RockPusher: Banishing the Anime out of town
RockPusher: Ben is indeed a gremlin
MacbethSeemsSus:
I'm definitely not playing WoW Forever right now
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Vinewood_OG: It's not WoW: Whenever You Get Around To It
ghyllnox: Oooooo
e_bloc: appointment viewing
MacbethSeemsSus:
aquinas_0:
Strebenherz: i think they said something like 4 weeks to start to see where they get/how it goes?
Kentosaurus: oh wow
RockPusher: Will Cameron get pottery before nukes? Find out!
Strebenherz: @RockPusher my kudos to cam for sticking with civ despite his... experience xD
DigitalSeahorse: 6 games at once?
adept_nekomancer: @RockPusher "Have we figured out how horses work yet?" "No, but we just invented social media"
RockPusher:
DigitalSeahorse:
TheAinMAP:
sirzechs_666:
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Shadowsoflife: Da bits da bits
ArdCollider:
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
ErynTzun:
okay byeee ty for strim
DrakoniteDev:
DigitalSeahorse:
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Nigouki: Thanks for the stream!
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