TehAmelie: we've invented murobraking
CAKHost: To be fair, we probably need to save the brakes for Lrrman's coming up
TehAmelie: noo in that race you want to keep an even speed to last more laps without pit stops
TehAmelie: ideally only ever let go of the gas to slow down
Juliamon: LRRmans is not about ideals
Juliamon: it's about not DQing, and GANT GANT
TehAmelie: you're not wrong
CAKHost: Fair and I probably wouldn't want to break either if I was being chased by Zeta or any bus for that matter going at racing speed
TehAmelie: that too
TehAmelie: just unscrew the brake pedal and use it to weigh down the gas
beowuuf: !venga
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kusinohki: !next
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beowuuf: A+ song name, would read again
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Solipsody: Aw...
TehAmelie: i think once you get to three All Orcs Must Dies you have to question your commitment to killing all the orcs
GhostValv: :S
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beowuuf: eh, game is just 'orcs must die' we're allowed to keep some back for later
TehAmelie: i guess we're keeping a breeding population so there's always more orcs to kill
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ContingentCat: !findquote orc
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TehAmelie: it's not "orcs" as a species that must die, just individual orcs must die. continuously.
beowuuf: ok, this music with 'it's go time' is just sergeJustRight
opal_moth: hiya everyone
TheManaLeek: Orc killin' time eh? Or is this a poignant narrative adventure about the inevitability of death?
TheManaLeek: Orcs, sadly, must die
TehAmelie: oh hi there
beowuuf: this is like feeding the emperor psykers in 40k i guess, we must keep feeding the orcs to the death blender or else
ContingentCat: hello Cam
GhostValv: hydrate :)
Hewdra: camerob!!
accountmadeforants: Orcs may live...
SAJewers: pkroseDrink
opal_moth: hydration station
Ba_Dum_Tish: Man Cam is thirsty for Orcs
Despoiler98: hydrate
kusinohki: drinking simulator?
TehAmelie: to everything, turn, turn, turn
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: Hey Cam, you're looking good as ever
Angnor33: Thirsty Cam.
beowuuf: hello cameron! hello hidden cori
Saxpython: Big Sips
CAKHost: Hi there!
Juliamon: Stay hydrated!
TheThirdTail: God, I'm so thirsty now...
ContingentCat: hi Cori voice
beowuuf: something something thirsty on main something
GhostValv: hi
opal_moth: im really enjoying this new drinking simulator
Saxpython: lunarj1Heart
Hewdra: Cameron is thirst trapping chat
ContingentCat: ah the cycle of life
Kaorti: mistake!
beowuuf: you and adam confirmed Good People
TehAmelie: it went into your blood!
SpacePotato01: Le plein s'il vous plait
Hewdra: I'm great, how about you?
ContingentCat: katesLol
CAKHost: That water says hi
TehAmelie: the drink or the return?
Ba_Dum_Tish: This does seem to be the belch stream
opal_moth: both
SkylerRingtail: Somewhat loosely 'tower defense' from what I recall
kusinohki: orc can't die if they're all gone
LordZarano: This stream brought to you by: Water
Ba_Dum_Tish: It isn't ALL orcs must die
TheManaLeek: According to Websters Dictionary, Orcs are defined as...
Nigouki: I think I have the first one only as a steam gift and it was pretty fun
Solipsody: A British horde?
Nigouki: a reverse Brexit?
SkylerRingtail: Oh, so we're ICE? (Ooof)
Kaorti: Subtext is ... suspect
Ba_Dum_Tish: Good thing they only attack one at a time
Invitare: also this studio was founded by former members of Ensemble Studios, after Microsoft shut it down. They developed the Age of series
kusinohki: welcome to the rest of thestream everyone!
flouncy_magooo: I love Age of Series!
beowuuf: @Ba_Dum_Tish games on steam (even the first) don't seem to have the 'all' ?
TehAmelie: ah, so now begins the age of the orcs
TehAmelie: (must die)
SpacePotato01: Has anyone tried putting a giant meatgrinder at the exit of the portal?
Solipsody: Oh, it's DS9.
Ba_Dum_Tish: Wow there is a lot of Lore
Invitare: Gabby best protag btw
Juliamon: This is far more lore than I expected from the game's title
kusinohki: is it lore? or is it fan fiction?
Solipsody: There's no difference these days.
Hewdra: I'm loving this
Hewdra: we can literally see Cameron's soul leave his body in real time
Solipsody: I'm really looking forward to none of this coming up at all in the actual game.
Ba_Dum_Tish: I feel like this could be read by Dave Spokeman
Ba_Dum_Tish: It would make just as much sense
kusinohki: is it me or is cori halfway to dave spokesman?
Invitare: it won't
Hewdra: Cori Spokeswoman
bakerydragon: Keep it together Cam :p
TheGreatPotatoMage: Davina Spokeswoman
bakerydragon: or not ^.^
SnackPak_: lrrWOW
LidofLoathing: are we the baddies?
Ba_Dum_Tish: seabatYIKES
ContingentCat: oh great gatekeeping colonialists
CAKHost: We aren't the baddies because we say so
ArkhamArchivist: so The Sorceress is the Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss?
SkylerRingtail: Oh I don't like those faces
ContingentCat: of course capitalism
kusinohki: stupid Oxford Rowing Club!
Hewdra: Great, gatekeeping checked off the list, now we only need the gaslighting and the irlbossing
Hewdra: g
Ba_Dum_Tish: I now wonder what was the first tower defense game
TheManaLeek: 5 years ago
TheManaLeek: Everything is 5 years ago
SirenSongSeas: So we're doing a gatekeeping which gives us money because capitalism
amras0x00: @Ba_Dum_Tish wasn't it that warcraft 3 mod?
CAKHost: Oh is Cameron and Cori playing together?
Hewdra: except for Skyrim, that's 10 years ago
LordZarano: Ah yes, the unintelligent Orcs with their FORGED ARMOUR
kusinohki: @Ba_Dum_Tish wasn't there a game just called "tower defense"? I imagine that would be the first
jwholla: i played so much of the first orcs must die. this game was great
jwholla: equipment costs money
Ba_Dum_Tish: We are interns there is no budget
LathosTiran: N7's buy their own gear
SoldierToken: @LordZarano is that forged armor? or is it grown like chitin?
DarkAbyssKeeper: They spend all their money on inter-planing.
Angnor33: You must prove your worthy of the trap through murder!
Ba_Dum_Tish: Oh noo
Solipsody: @kusinohki I always thought it originated as a "mod" for regular RTS games, and then spun off.
CururuGuasu: The Master of Masters?
CAKHost: I'm not too sure I like those empty icons...they kind of look like skulls to me :\
TehAmelie: the Warcraft 3 map making community gave us tower defenses, mobas and i don't know what else
Wodar9: Are we finally going to ask the question: Why must orcs die?
Luminaire_p: Where does Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland line up in this timeline?
jwholla: i did not realize there was a story
amras0x00: wikipedia cites Rampart from 1990
kusinohki: @Solipsody possible. I'm by no means an expert
amras0x00: but wikipedia also cites Element TD and Gem Tower Defense (Warcraft 3 mods) as 'rekindling' the genre
Kaorti: man, I hope the gameplay is good
Luminaire_p: I can see Cameron is loving the writing just as much as I am
Solipsody: How can we choose a hero when there are none on screen?
Invitare: Max is very cheesy btw
kusinohki: that almost sounded like squirrel girl...
Ba_Dum_Tish: Wow that looks like a mobile game screen
s0lesurviv0r: I hear trap based gameplay and my mind automatically goes to the Deception series from way back
Solipsody: Are a lot of tower defense games like this, now, with a character you run around as instead of the overhead RTS view? I guess it's been a while since I played one.
TehAmelie: i never played Dungeon Keeper but it seemed the epitome of trap based combat
CAKHost: I hope you are immune to your own traps but I suspect you are not
CAKHost: Oh cool!
Angnor33: You were in the previous games.
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Angnor33: Looks like you have 4 bullets?
ggodopaste: You're immune to MOST of your traps.
Thisbymaster: there is a bug, if you both try to sell the same item. I could credit both of you.
kusinohki: I assume you are also immune to your partners traps and weapons fire
Ba_Dum_Tish: Waaargh
Solipsody: Turns out I don't even recognize this genre anymore. Wow.
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ContingentCat: time to click on heads
ggodopaste: You're immune to Most freindly fire
Invitare: Skull!
TehAmelie: it's not a question of if orcs gonna die, just how fast
kusinohki: why wasn't the gate trapped?
Ba_Dum_Tish: Do have a reload indicator?
chatterboxfire: how can cam heal?
TehAmelie: something something metaphor forlife
Solipsody: Is there something that prevents putting those spike traps right across the path so there's no way around?
CAKHost: Oh god D:
Jasoman: just like me
Hewdra: oh my god
TheManaLeek: It just sounds like language
Invitare: revel in the slaughter
DarkAbyssKeeper: What measure is an orc?
ANeMzero: Look Cameron this game is called Orcs Must Die you can't start having feelings about the Orcs.
flouncy_magooo: It's German for "The Orcs, The"
TheGreatPotatoMage: As a famous space-wizard once said, 'the ability to speak does not make one intelligent'
kusinohki: murderers... exterminators... depends who tells the story
Kaorti: no war for rift magic
Hewdra: You're committing genocide on a mass scale
Luminaire_p: Orclimate Change
TheGreatPotatoMage: The forged armour and weapons kinda sway it though
Ba_Dum_Tish: Light and medium orcs are there also Venti and Grande orcs?
Thisbymaster: pay no attention to raising heat levels from the portals
TehAmelie: i know, let's just pretend they're zombies
SkylerRingtail: Why do we build the wall? Er, traps.
division_ring: If you think you hear an orc question why they are even doing this? Ignore it. That's just the wind.
TehAmelie: then it's much less murdery than like They Are Billions
cmdrud87: well... that escalated quickly
GrandiaKnight: Death to the greenskins!
GrandiaKnight: Praise the emper
GrandiaKnight: Praise the Emperor
Saxpython: Imagine you're a Sister of the Broken Wheel, and they're Boyz
kusinohki: what do the traps on the wall do?
GrandiaKnight: Shoot arrows
Saxpython: @grandiaknight +1
TehAmelie: if they're like fungus-based orks maybe they literally have to die to keep from displacing all matter in the universe
Ba_Dum_Tish: Why have we not already designed our portals with these defenses in place?
Hewdra: the screams in the distance really make this an experience
Angnor33: Is there an alt-fire mode? I can't remember
Hewdra: the agony of the dying
Thisbymaster: Just put the portals over the lava
chatterboxfire: what's the 20 in the top of the screen?
DarkAbyssKeeper: Watch these intelligent creatures helplessly trample through your death traps.
Jasoman: @ba_dum_tish upper management
Angnor33: @chatterboxfire Portal health
Wodar9: How many people did we just kill?
SnackPak_: just like Fortnite
GrandiaKnight: @Angnor33 I think it's an upgrade you have to buy
CamelAttack: Dance to your murders!
CAKHost: Because that's appropriate after killing those who aren't us
NodeOfDestiny: Grooving to orc extinction eh?
TehAmelie: now we're going to Disneyland!
Scar_Red_Tiger: Where's that dance lifted from?
kusinohki: sycronized dancing? me thinks you 2 could have spent more time training - grumpy instructor
Solipsody: Does this version of tower defense include maze-building to extend the enemy's path and do more damage, or any of the other old tactics like that? It doesn't seem like there's room.
PixelBoshi: anyone else having an issue with no videos found on the LRRMTG youtube channel...?
AtomicAlchemical: You are literally collecting the skulls of your enemies to use as currency
Ba_Dum_Tish: They seem to enjoy wholesale slaughter a bit too much
cmdrud87: probably from Fortnite... everything's from Fortnite these days
LordZarano: Are we the baddies?
Solipsody: @kusinohki That IS training. Come on, Eva's on Netflix now, there's no excuse not to know that.
Nigouki: oh yeah this has lots of war crimes
Ba_Dum_Tish: @PixelBoshi Yep empty for me as well
TehAmelie: i do like hard currency
Hewdra: "Bladestaff"? Did you mean: Spear?
kusinohki: @Solipsody what's netflix? :P
DarkAbyssKeeper: Tart Trap just makes me think of the glue trap that the council put in my house, that they claimed would cause whatever it trapped to die immediately. Turns out rats caught in glue traps soil themselves and cry.
Invitare: no it's a blade staff
Luminaire_p: Grinder
Luminaire_p: my god
Tikosh_: grinder has been mvp in the past
PixelBoshi: @LoadingReadyRun something wrong with the LRRMTG youtube channel? everything is gone
amras0x00: the freedom trinket feels on the nose
cmdrud87: no, it's spelled Grindr
MercurialVox: Grinder was a staple in OMD!U for it's ability to just melt waves en-masse
Saxpython: Definitely want to spend 1 CP to give them Fight Last
CAKHost: You know, maybe the magic users of this world need to work out some way to make rifts not put the orcs in a blind, murderous rage? That sounds a lot easier than making traps and killing them as they come out.
Invitare: Saw Blade Launcher is absurd btw
Hewdra: Cameron choosing the wholesome option
KiroWhitefin: Distract them with pretty butterflies while you saw them into gibblets
CanisLupusAqua: @CAKHost they bought all this murder gear wholesale and they can't resell it, what else are they going to do
Wodar9: such happy music
Invitare: you can refund upgrades, but it won't refund purchases
Saxpython: The Shoppe Boppe isn't bad either
SkylerRingtail: Now how does the monetization in this game (if any) compare to the previous version?
Saxpython: @wodar9 +1
Invitare: there's no microtransactions, if that's the question
Wodar9: Maximillian Pegasus?
Invitare: I think the Stadia version had DLC, but the Steam release seems to have it all
TehAmelie: maybe it's like the hell energy development in Doom where they just have to accept some demon apocalypse as a side effect because it's so efficient
Ba_Dum_Tish: I feel like the magic acme corporation is deliberately setting you up for issues so you buy more of their traps
TehAmelie: the free market has decided orcs must die
Hewdra: time for more genocide
Invitare: is that a spiked mace?
novrdd: hewwweegoo
division_ring: Best part about the shotgun? Bonus points for juggle combos. :D
Zokarist2: here comes the hoard~ hello hoard~
cmdrud87: Let CH-Ian play this game. He can fill out all the paperwork fot the ISO certification of the traps
DarkAbyssKeeper: These orcs are good guys. They are 'light' orcs, not dark orcs.
KiroWhitefin: @SkylerRingtail This one is a sequel to OMD2, rather than the OMD: Unchained. (No micros, so far at least \o/ )
Invitare: they're coming from both doors
SkylerRingtail: @KiroWhitefin That's a relief
LordZarano: I think I'd prefer if you actually were the bad guys in the story too, Dungeon Keeper style
Ba_Dum_Tish: Have we considered having less doors
Invitare: I think it's like the Confusion Flower
Invitare: but mounted on the wall
bakerydragon: *mass* murderers
CAKHost: @CAKHost Fair. Okay they can do a little bit of murder to make up for the expense but maybe figure out the the anti-rage rift tech on the side.
cmdrud87: after literal decades of video games, NOW you realize you're the murderer?
Saxpython: Maybe more like Exterminators
GrizzmastahFlex: this announcer guy could use a lozenge or something
Loonatic93: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 33:44.
Ba_Dum_Tish: Also if these orcs are unintelligent who is making their rmor?
Ba_Dum_Tish: armor
TehAmelie: imagine if the announcer was the narrator from Darkest Dungeon
Invitare: that should work
CanisLupusAqua: @Ba_Dum_Tish i assume the same people supplying these guys
CanisLupusAqua: arms manufacturers play both sides
Ba_Dum_Tish: That would imply that orcs are more intelligent than our propaganda would indicate
TehAmelie: i'm guessing as you level you can focus on developing better traps or guns, depending on if you want to distance yourself or participate in the murder
bakerydragon: Is the voice announcing "more enemies on the way" diagetic?
bakerydragon: I know of the 2 PCs and sorcerress but not aware of 4th character
KiroWhitefin: Orc Bosses are a bit smarter, but the heroes... not that smart either. Would say they are on par.
bakerydragon: not a big deal but curioes
PixelArtDragon: Those ragdolls are very satisfying
varazeal: Acid traps :D
Loonatic93: And they do a little dance at the end of the stage. smh
Clockwork_Penguin: Wasnt the whole point of inventing forts that you didnt have to do this.
Grimwear: so uh...is there a reason the lrrmtg youtube channel has no content?
Kaorti: economy of scale of murder
TehAmelie: picturing Shepard pressing the button to finish the Krogan genocide and then breaking out the Shepard shuffle
DarkAbyssKeeper: @Grimwear Oh, that's probably not good.
Kaorti: don't think I'm a fan of generic snarkiness
Ba_Dum_Tish: The butterfly effect is confusing
electric_claire: What did the orcs do to deserve such a condemnation?
KeytarCat: @electric_claire protect their ancestral land?
varazeal: Yah just noticed the empty youtube as well
Solipsody: I don't know how I feel about 'tower defense' involving this much personally-shooting-enemies-in-the-face. It kind of goes against the spirit.
TehAmelie: they're reacting badly to economic progress
Saxpython: Anyone asking about LRRMTG, Heather is in Discord, is aware, and monitoring. Looks like a bigger YouTube issue.
varazeal: Ah thanks
Grimwear: ty
ggodopaste: The gist of the setting is that all the universes need to be connected, or else everyone dies. The Problem is that one of the universes is full of orcs who are functionally omnicidal. can't close the doors or else your world dies, can't leave them open or else orcs eat you.
varazeal: Not in the ds so not aware of that :p
KeytarCat: @Solipsody It's a different game, for sure. I started with Sanctum 2, which has personal weapons do status effects or tower scale damage
Sarah_Serinde: LRR has been informed about the LRRMtG page chat, sounds like YouTube did A Thing but hopefully the thing is easy to fix
CAKHost: Re-reading the wiki's Cori talked about earlier, the orcs are a natural inhabitants to the 'Dead World' that the rifts open up to. They just are a really mean bunch that seem to always be there when they open up the rifts
Ba_Dum_Tish: We just need to capitalism the orcs
varazeal: I kinda miss the multiplayer Unleashed it was called?
Scrubbodiestobears: I mean, this seems like such a waste. are orcs edible?
Ba_Dum_Tish: @Scrubbodiestobears Probably not if they disappear into ether when killed
TehAmelie: such contrivance just to have a game about being a meat grinder for swarming hordes of monsters. i wonder how they came up with it
Scrubbodiestobears: i mean, if Ether's fine for Misraaks, it's fine for me
Wolfstrike_NL: they seem to transform into currency, which we can use to buy traps
BloodnBullets: arrow traps work best at the end of a long straight so they have more opportunity to hit multiple targets
KiroWhitefin: Sadly arrow walls have very limited range
ggodopaste: THey will
geail: ywt
geail: yet
BloodnBullets: they do, but they still have more opportunity at an end
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CAKHost: I sort of think of the orcs as bulls and the rifts are like the red capes (at least in terms of old looney toon cartoons I watched). Orcs just be mad about rifts, yo
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Solipsody: This just doesn't seem... Tower-y. Nothing you build is really a 'structure' in the same way. No funneling/barriers/mazes, no balancing things so orcs don't attack your towers (or can't)... Maybe that happens later but this just feels fundamentally different.
KiroWhitefin: Think orcs turn into magic and the coins are just a translation medium, seeing as how the traps are magic too. (If I remember the first game's logic.)
varazeal: This game had logic?
Ba_Dum_Tish: @Solipsody So a trap em up?
CAKHost: Orc doggos?!
bekerkozar: @Solipsody There are barriers you can build to funnel them, expensive though
BrowneePoints: Kobolds maybe. Or Ratlings
LathosTiran: area denial simulator
amras0x00: @Solipsody trap-shooter? There seem to be a fair few of them
Loonatic93: All games have logic. Actually, all software has logic. They are just a very sophisticated series of mathematical equations.
geail: It's usually more effective to combo than to direct funnel
PaperDoopliss: Epic. Fantasy.
offbeatwitch: dab on the orcs
Angnor33: The dancing
Nigouki: dance on the bones of your enemies!
Solipsody: @LathosTiran @amras0x00 Yes. That.
cmdrud87: I am waiting for them to floss
kamelion84: lol
Getter404: The most "How do you do fellow kids" victory
Ba_Dum_Tish: Celebrate genocide with a dance
novrdd: jammin this song
accountmadeforants: 2020Pajamas 2020Party
flouncy_magooo: Is this the Fortnite of video games?
varazeal: That was more philosophical than I was prepatred for @Loonatic93
Angnor33: Oh man. Flip trap is fun.
geail: Throwing into lava
CAKHost: Can you flip them backwards?
CAKHost: Or the lava works too
Loonatic93: @varazeal I took a couple of Comp Sci classes for fun in college.
geail: @CAKHost yes, they can rotate to flip any 4 directions
CAKHost: Neat!
varazeal: Well those classes paid off :p
accountmadeforants: This game really, really looks like it wants to hit you with a "New player deal: Only $9.99 for 1200 shmuckaroos!"
TheGreatPotatoMage: The dance is based upon how well you do, I believe... and FLIP TRAP is the best thing
KiroWhitefin: Remember that each trap can only use one unique upgrade.
Ba_Dum_Tish: Meet em and yeet em
dragon1472: why DOESN"T it stick to the inside
CAKHost: I want to know what sounds the orcs make when they trigger those now...
DarkAbyssKeeper: Ok, this trap just makes me wonder if you can rube goldberg.
KiroWhitefin: @accountmadeforants That's what OMD: Unleashed tried to do :D
ggodopaste: @DarkAbyssKeeper You Can.
Thagnok: They made a third one of these?
TehAmelie: can you bounce baddies around like pinballs for bonus points like in Evil Genius?
KiroWhitefin: or uh, Unchained maybe was the name
Solipsody: @DarkAbyssKeeper Flip on to a flipper?
DarkAbyssKeeper: @DarkAbyssKeeper Beautiful.
Invitare: they're almost as bad as the bomb rats
novrdd: yoink
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Duwani1: Good thing these are not 40k orcs
CAKHost: can we call the flip traps, yeet traps instead?
TehAmelie: well, if i ran an orc skull-based economy i'd make sure ones with bullet holes were worth more
Styxseus: The games are Orcs Must Die, OMD2, OMD Unchained (free to play, games-as-service model) and now this (OMD3)
Loonatic93: So, how are those grinder traps supposed to work?
Solipsody: I can see how we got here from tower defense now, but boy did I miss a lot of the steps along the way.
geail: I haven't played OMD 3 yet because it was Statia exclusive for quite a while
CAKHost: Bounce them into the grinder traps?
CAKHost: (oh god, I'm a bad person for typing that)
TehAmelie: i remember now, "exclusive Orcs Must Die 3" was one of the most hilarious reasons to scoff at Stadia
Borgrim_: Sanctum is a game that has pretty similar game play
DarkAbyssKeeper: Announcer needs 2.5 Gins.
Angnor33: Mmm. Barbecue Orc
Foxmar320: Guardian down!
ContingentCat: !ing
Ranakel: Oh hi James
CAKHost: We have found the sub-ocean?
Saxpython: Hi, Today on Tinker Tailor Solder Fry... Orc Traps
Invitare: Fire Arrows are exceptionally powerful
Solipsody: You know, it's not just that you shoot them, it's that you shoot way more of them then the traps get. I'm sure they get more important over time but they feel kinda like a bonus now.
TehAmelie: orcs are chunky
ContingentCat: ew
Invitare: it's continuous so it works well against the fast runners
DarkAbyssKeeper: They have a maximum meat capacity.
Loonatic93: So, the grinder traps are grinding something and shooting the ground stuff at the orcs?
Nigouki: it's like your office chair wheels and hair, but with orc intestines
CAKHost: Just make sure the grinder is OFF before cleaning!
KiroWhitefin: Traps and placement become vital later on, your weapons basically only work as delay tool because you can't handle all these greens.
Styxseus: Oh, just wait until the war-stages @Solipsody ;D There will eventually be more orcs than one can shoot
Solipsody: @Styxseus And I assume wider spaces? So it turns into tower defense later on.
Loonatic93: I would just think that the grinders would be better on the floor where you can use gravity to feed orcs into said grinder.
Solipsody: @Styxseus Like they're easing shooter-players into tower defense.
Styxseus: It varies, but mainly yes, and having to defend multiple points @Solipsody
KiroWhitefin: @Solipsody some of the maps get incredibly hectic and you can't cover all lanes manually either
Solipsody: Do they ever attack the traps? Apart from clogging some of them...
TehAmelie: hmm would it be feasible to let 19 orcs live on every level? if it takes 20 to break the universe load bearing whatsit
Styxseus: I kindof think of the Warmage as a very high-performing mobile trap :P (alot of the weapons are more like spells or abilities too)
SkylerRingtail: @Solipsody Some do. Eventually there will be Kobold Sappers that like to blow up barricades
MrUglama: why no barricades?
novrdd: noes NotLikeThis
MrCurrent: i hate the shotgun, id pay real money for it to have manual reload
cmdrud87: For the Horde! Oh, wait, wrong game
Xenguin47: Skaven?
KiroWhitefin: You know, scales, runs on two legs - styled just like rats
Loonatic93: Next in Warhammer: Skaven Catcher 2.
MrCurrent: tar trap is real good against kobolds
MolaMolaphant: poor announcer sounds like he's had a sore throat for like 6 years and has to keep yelling anyway
MercurialVox: what's the D2 one, killed by The Creators?
Loonatic93: The announcer sounds kinda like the butler in "Archer."
ContingentCat: he had to return to his home planet
SerGarretCameron: Became Yote.
MolaMolaphant: @MercurialVox architects, but yup
geail: The sad part about flippers is they yield poor combo counts a lot of the time
Styxseus: I love their screams (and comments as they go along) too xD
BrindleBoar: geail dolphins have short attention spans Kappa
ThreeCatsInATrenchcoat: Gamurders
ContingentCat: actively gaming
Alness49: I mean, the clue is in the name "Orcs must Die"
toenolla: Man, Krancor is a great announcer
Loonatic93: Just a series of "Heated Gamer Moments."
SkylerRingtail: orcs are dead, and we have killed them
Saxpython: That Orc went on a Totally Normal Journey
ContingentCat: I feel like this crosses the line from tragedy to statistic
Loonatic93: We have found the orcs... And they are us.
Kaorti: these traps have awfully good iff
geail: oh yeah, the traps are typically quite satisfying to use
TehAmelie: the announcer reminds me of a line in one of the Dirk Gently books about someone reading Kubla Khan in a university faculty gathering and deciding (paraphrasing) "Coleridge's timeless poetry would sound best yelled out in a silly voice"
offbeatwitch: does that violate the geneva conventions
ContingentCat: legaliy distincy solja boy
Borgrim_: smoke em if you got em
TehAmelie: cause we're going down
TehAmelie: no? i thought we were doing Lost on You
Borgrim_: me?
Saxpython: @contingentcat Armed Forces Person
Borgrim_: nah just quoting spaceballs
TehAmelie: it would have been an unlikely reference
TehAmelie: incredible song by the way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDjeBNv6ip0
corianderd: dope I'll listen to that after
ContingentCat: In unralated news my mission to turn my AC island into a library seems to be working, a villiager sent me a card saying she dreamed she was living in a library
TehAmelie: lrrHEART
KV1NN4: nyaww
TehAmelie: i'm confident the main reason LP isn't bigger than Elvis is just that they're really hard to google
Saxpython: oh that bop
Xenguin47: Welcome back!
novrdd: welcome back
Saxpython: lunarj1Heart
Invitare: Hello Bach, I am Mozart
Borgrim_: it blunders more buss
GhostValv: how does the kobold have 2 skulls :O
Xenguin47: o_O What does a window of butterflies do?
Ba_Dum_Tish: The blunderbuss is coming
Styxseus: It makes the orcs look at the pretty butterflies @Xenguin47
TehAmelie: gotta crack more skulls to make our way in the world
Saxpython: needs more Khorne
Xenguin47: Ohh... okay
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MercurialVox: Barricades? And now the game truly beginss
TehAmelie: oh no, the menu song is growing on me
LurkerSpine: I'm reminded of dungeon defenders, but I imagine this series is older
Ba_Dum_Tish: Tell us a tale all about how our orcs got flipped turned upside down
Mai_Andra: "First, do the thing. Only then will I tell you how to do the thing."
Alness49: So, we need a spring on the top of the stairs to the rift, just to send them to the bottom?
KeytarCat: just throw them back down the stairs? LUL
Ba_Dum_Tish: He became bits
Borgrim_: giblets
Mai_Andra: I thought a real ogre would've already eaten us.
Xenguin47: This one time, at ogre camp...
Ba_Dum_Tish: ""Good""
Xenguin47: Barricades to make the ogres take longer on each landing might be good
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: I'm pretty sure my mother would say something like "AAAAAH NO THERE'S AN OGRE"
KeytarCat: can you shoot the chains and drop lanterns on them?
Xenguin47: I dunno how much this game lends itself towards queuing pathways
Styxseus: Those are not lanterns ; )
Styxseus: and yes
offbeatwitch: i dunno if those traps on the barricaded side are hitting
ggodopaste: @Xenguin47 2 was big on barricade paths
KeytarCat: Ah
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KeytarCat: is that a flame throwing flip trap?
Ba_Dum_Tish: But wait there is still more orcs
ggodopaste: @KeytarCat Essentially, yes
Styxseus: The flipping thing is just bonus for that particular fire-trap
KeytarCat: Inverse, got it
Bolsha: I like the idea in theory
bytecaster: Ah, the dream of a perpetual orc motion machine, satisfying, but alas, impossible
KeytarCat: That line could have rhymed, and I think that would have been cute
CapitalisToast: I love me some Talking Simulator Philosophy talk
TehAmelie: one orc didn't die. booray?
Ba_Dum_Tish: Skulls for the trap gods
KeytarCat: yeah, it was hiding under an ogre
cmdrud87: maybe, they should have painted themselves red
geail: For a level like this it is beneficial to put a barricade on the inside corner of the turn, forcing the orc into the longest path
Ba_Dum_Tish: FBtouchdown FBtouchdown
RustyNaylz_102: i dont know how effective they are in this version of the game but i liked tar traps on the floor. if they are slowed enough you can get two volleys from wall arrows
Styxseus: Very much so @geail Thats the kind of trick you do to save money on barricades
KeytarCat: And we know how much she likes trivia!
KeytarCat: Did that one just SirUwU
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LurkerSpine: can you have barriers in front of traps or no?
xantos69: @LurkerSpine You sure can
Styxseus: ^ "Mazing" for trap efficiency is very much a thing
LurkerSpine: oh sweet
LurkerSpine: I might have to pick this up
TehAmelie: just pretend you're the Lady of Pain and the orcs have wronged you
geail: @LurkerSpine I haven't played OMD 3 yet but greatly enjoyed 1 and 2
RustyNaylz_102: ohyeah
TheLodgium: They made a third one?!
RustyNaylz_102: flying enemies are the WORST
geail: @TheLodgium yes, it was Stadia exclusive for a long time so no one knew about it
Styxseus: Apart from a few nitpicks (with a few traps and weapons), it's VERY satisfying
Ba_Dum_Tish: Oh right Stadia existed
TehAmelie: it is doing a much better job at teaching you the game than any tower defense maps i played in WC3
BrindleBoar: TheLodgium it's the fourth game in the series.
TheLodgium: Huh, well, hopefully the devs made some good money off of the exclusivity deal
Styxseus: Like, if you put one of those firetraps at the top of a stair? You can flip them back down the stairs AND burn the ones who made it all the way up! There's alot of little neat things
cmdrud87: we'll take that out if the tarp budget
RustyNaylz_102: @TheLodgium what exclusivity deal?
Trakshvar: Must admit tough. Thaty repeat melody on the menu screen is super horrible to me
BrindleBoar: The Doom Orcer
glencon: Everyone wants that person's staff.
Charlymandias: Is this the story of darth signus the wise?
kusinohki: this is my BOOMSTICK!
TehAmelie: John Wick's weirder cousin
Styxseus: :D
glencon: Wants to eat Voreos?
KiroWhitefin: He is the nemesis of candles everywhere
SeismicLawns: yes, "best friend"
YeetTheRich_: !uptime
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ElementalAlchemist: definitely just "best friends"
Astra7525: *power of love intensifies*
Ba_Dum_Tish: Wait Feign death is a movement ability?
offbeatwitch: welcome to the lava pits
kusinohki: back in time when the traps are more primative?
wordnerdify: Historians agree they were the best of friends
TehAmelie: how does this work in single player by the way? the levels seem designed for co-op
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DarkAbyssKeeper: So this world definitely has OSHA, right? (The Orc Suffering Hilarity Authority)
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RustyNaylz_102: swords, they cut
quillilian: @Ba_Dum_Tish Yes .. in that you forget you have it when expecting a double jump or glide .. and die
Faulpyr: Are you Drzzt?
KeytarCat: @ElementalAlchemist People only gave him shit for being a bottom!
xantos69: Or you can use scroll wheel to access them
Borgrim_: Vorzzt
Invitare: the catapult is fun
RustyNaylz_102: your 5 is a tar trap
Invitare: you pilot it
Styxseus: Vorwick probably has my favorite voice-quips in the game, out of all the characters :P
xantos69: Of note: That catapult doesn't do anything unless you are in it.
ElementalAlchemist: @ElementalAlchemist :D, that's at least much better than it could be
KeytarCat: Time for barrier maze?
Nigouki: can always make the enemies path into range
TehAmelie: hmm so the catapult is a bigger gun for you to hold
Styxseus: Aw yeah *now* we're cooking
offbeatwitch: then flip them back to the start :D
xantos69: You can also save money by selling the barricade on the corner.
cmdrud87: yeet!
gualdhar: sup chat, how goes the orc murdering?
Ba_Dum_Tish: To shreds you say
kusinohki: catapult seems.... inefficient for taking out foot soldiers
Styxseus: You have may have a slight gate-problem
heyitsjusttyler: why does he look like the hulk irl
Ba_Dum_Tish: It feels like we should have more than 2 people guarding our forts
quillilian: The trade-off of barricades being they use quite a lot of currency that can be used for more damage
DarkAbyssKeeper: What that maze wants is a flipper at the end :D
KeytarCat: Do you need the corner wall? can they travel diatgonals?
treacletart: there's a corner barricade not doing anything for you
Styxseus: Mm.. Orconemy
Kramburger: The path with a half A press
Ba_Dum_Tish: Orconomics
treacletart: mm clogged orc
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Styxseus: Moving the catapult to shoot into maze might also help. Ooo, I see the archers!
satyropodobny: What about using tar pits to group them up?
Ba_Dum_Tish: The maze has a real point
metaldog564: ah, the green tide
MilkInBags: Hello Cam! Hope you're having a nice afternoon
Styxseus: More catapults IS an option i coop :D
metaldog564: a good old fashioned waaaaagh!
KiroWhitefin: You are excused Cori
KV1NN4: *puts down her dinner* x.x;
Ba_Dum_Tish: You would think that if there have been orc attacks for 150 years or more that we would have some existing infrastructure
Kramburger: Too thick to trick
Borgrim_: ogrerun stratz
TheMerricat: we keep selling it for short term profits @ba_dum_tish ;)
KeytarCat: send them over the ledge?
Scrubbodiestobears: just put a grinder on the wall
xantos69: I bet if you rotate that flip trap you could launch them over the edge.
Ba_Dum_Tish: @TheMerricat Yeah that sounds like government
DarkAbyssKeeper: Is that even allowed?
Scrubbodiestobears: sounds like a lot of work tbh
Kramburger: You're making content, they games are supposed to be used
Ba_Dum_Tish: Wholesome war crimes
LurkerSpine: there's that article about how video games are now replacing fun and relaxation with work
Scrubbodiestobears: warlock jump!
Joalni: Fun is overrated. Trebuckets is where the value is.
DeM0nFiRe: lrrFINE
bojanmlad: put the catapult on the ground more dps
Styxseus: Try double-jumping as Worwick to yeet rhough space --got there :D
Hewdra: there's one for the highlight reel :D
quillilian: There's a thread somewhere with someone bickering about the "benefit" of coop :D
silenceaux: "How could this happen"
DeM0nFiRe: Hahaha
MilkInBags: that's me in Destiny 2
Kramburger: James is gonna sue you for gimmick imfringement
MilkInBags: waaahG
Hewdra: Funleash!
kusinohki: G for GO ??
quillilian: G'unleash The G'hord
Styxseus: Alternatively Green, wich means GO, but also, Orcs! :P
TehAmelie: i feel like industrializing the orc killing to this degree takes the joy out of it
geail: Then fill the entrance with tar
DarkAbyssKeeper: I mean, last time you got up to a 40 kill streak, so it not nothing.
TehAmelie: deep down don't we all want to kill orcs artisanally?
xantos69: @TehAmelie But the whole point is to make the traps do all the work so you can just watch.
Ba_Dum_Tish: Watching our terrible rube goldberg machine work
maxthefourth: is this line wars 3D?
Styxseus: You *can* get to the point where you can beat these maps without the "siege"-traps, but it takes some tinkering and abusing of mechanics
SkylerRingtail: Would upgrading the siege weapon be useful? Dunno what it does
quillilian: @Styxseus Flooding hallways with cheap traps (like spikes and arrows) works surprisingly well
TehAmelie: i guess there's probably many Warhammer games where you can personally machinegun orcs by the hundreds if that's your jam
devinmoon: I beat this map with just guardian archers. Lined every area with Guardian Archers
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geail: Werewolfs that are mage hunters when?
CAKHost: Oh I didn't notice that Cameron are now Garth and Aragon
satyropodobny: You'll want to place those tarpits in the maze me think
MilkInBags: what's the big 35 in the middle of the screen
geail: the life count
CAKHost: *and Cori
geail: when a orc breaches the portal it goes down by 1 or more
Ba_Dum_Tish: Cam slices and dices
Styxseus: I always underestimate the arrow-trap in every OMD game for some reason :P By the time i realize I've gotten through the game with some very wonky deathtraps
cmdrud87: !cardname slice and dice
xantos69: If you circle strafe the big ones really fast you can avoid being stunned by them.
cmdrud87: !card slice and dice
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djalternative: Since we're starting on TD games, will we be playing Bloons TD?
treacletart: flipper into spinny death knives?
asddsa28: back street?
bekerkozar: Maybe some tar instead of spikes on the ground?
cisco236: lrrFINE
offbeatwitch: and so i ask you what it's like
dumbo3k: Path the bottom of those stairs after the maze to move them nearer the lava, then flip into lava?
quillilian: @TehAmelie You can do setups where the traps are more support for your killing. The automated way is a different kind of Factorio-like fun
treacletart: Hi Crag!
MilkInBags: sniped
opal_moth: wounder if you can buy the broken traps back later on Crags list
dumbo3k: You can dance if you want to!
maxthefourth: You can leave these orcs behind!
quillilian: @dumbo3k We can make our orc friends fly!
Ba_Dum_Tish: !quote R1
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Orgmastron: !findquote r1
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Obsolete2885: Cam is quite "Limber"
DarkAbyssKeeper: Drizzt Tow'Erdef
Laserbeaks_Fury: what ever happened to these tower D style games
Hewdra: Having a lot of fun!
Ba_Dum_Tish: Uuuuhhhhh Orc more?
Hewdra: see ya!
Styxseus: Those orcs arent gonna die on their own! (probably)
KeytarCat: @Styxseus imortal until we killed them!
Styxseus: :D
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corianderd: @Laserbeaks_Fury this game came out in like July
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onarampage: it actually came out earlier, but was stadia only
DeM0nFiRe: Technically "it came out in July" covers both releases lol
onarampage: which was lame
DeM0nFiRe: Stadia July 2020, others July 2021
onarampage: lol
Styxseus: pfff
JadedCynic: Stadia is an interesting idea, but the infrastructure's not quite there, and the project was mismarketed and mismanaged
DeM0nFiRe: It's also just strictly worse than Xbox game pass or Playstation Now
JadedCynic: I mean, years ago, I was playing games with GameFly, and it was slow and stuttery and my gear was cutting edge
JadedCynic: and this was single-player
DeM0nFiRe: Both of whicha llow you to play via cloud or download (some of) the games to play directly
Styxseus: I dont think I even heard of it until it suddenly just showed up my "popular upcoming" page on steam
TheMerricat: Stadia was the ultimate expression of the wish that we will never own anything and have to rent it all from the corporate overlords forever just for that Im sincerely am glad that it failed
JadedCynic: ^^^^
DeM0nFiRe: Unfortunately, xbox game pass and PS now aren't much better in that respect, since you are also still just renting the games
xantos69: In Steam I trust. I just hope they never get bought out.
TheMerricat: Yes but at least for the Xbox and PlayStation you have the option of actually buying games it's not a default requirement of being able to play on them
DeM0nFiRe: Which, having it asan option isn't bad. But it would suck if everything moved to that model
onarampage: I really enjoyed 1 & 2, they then tried a multiplayer moba-ish version, which was kinda weird, but fun for a bit
JadedCynic: the dudes (and yeah, I'm sure it was *MEN*) who originated and distilled the 'End User License Agreement' to replace 'customer warranty'
TehAmelie: ohaio
TheMerricat: I'm not against the idea of things like game passes I'm just against the idea that they are the only option available
DeM0nFiRe: @TheMerricat Yeah as long as it remains that wait, it's cool for sure
DeM0nFiRe: way*
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geail: Not safe for swimming, only safe for drinking
Ba_Dum_Tish: Will it give us mutant powers?
niccus: and miss out on the dew?
xantos69: but if you drink it it tastes like delightful lemon lime! (For about .5 seconds before you die)
kusinohki: isn't green for gamma radiation and hulk powers?
Styxseus: I can recommend 3 for anyone who enjoyed 1 and 2 (unchained didnt click with me) - it has kindof the same good points, and kindof the same problems.
JadedCynic: ah, the "Asteroids" mechanic
TheMerricat: given I understand that three has completely erased the story of unchained I imagine no one really clicked with it
JadedCynic: "Processing new visitors"
Styxseus: I dont remember it clearly, but my brain tells me "Free to play--pay/grind to upgrade your traps to the point where you can win maps" "oh and also we have a MOBA"
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Ba_Dum_Tish: We cannot simply have More doors
Alness49: Those lasers need that grocery store scanner "boop" noise
Nigouki: oh i don't like these
Styxseus: So chunky!
Ba_Dum_Tish: Wait so the sorceress has time to tell us about the earth elementals but not about the evil elf lord?
ContingentCat: can we add "glock the babies" to !advice?
TheMerricat: almost as if she's intentionally holding back for some purpose :)
CataclysmicReverb: 2013? 2014?
Sarah_Serinde: Generally I think things related to guns + children are probably bad things to have in LRRbot without context
ContingentCat: which means it's retro now
ElementalAlchemist: The song was 2012 IIRC
ArcOfTheConclave: Ima say 2005
ContingentCat: right, fair
DiscordianTokkan: It's, uh, 2012
Ba_Dum_Tish: The last 2 years have taken about a decade so I have no idea how time works anymore
JadedCynic: no such thing as "too old" Cam; we still reference japes told by Hellenists...
ElementalAlchemist: Gangnam Hell was, of course, DB2017, so definitely before that
shendaras: Yeah, 2012.
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onarampage: mind the gap
geail: Burner next to the gap for the slight push
geail: Yum, that MTN DEW
RayFK: rayfkLurk rayfkLurk rayfkLurk
Hewdra: oh noes
Invitare: a bathtub of acid
Ba_Dum_Tish: Do the dew
MWGNZ: someone say rayfkLurk ?
ContingentCat: ah the Jordan Method
dumbo3k: Turns out that bathtub was full of acid
quillilian: @geail I ... never considered that as a way to use that gap .. ty!
JadedCynic: You tempted fate, Cam....it couldn't have happened at any other time
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Lithobraker: @JadedCynic my old job wouldn't get rid of them till like half the boards were broken, and they started using plastic pallets
TheMerricat: so chat how many games in this series do you think will get before they decide to give us the flip side where we play as the hapless orcs who are just trying to find a new home after having been ruined by the colonization of these mages?
geail: @quillilian You are welcome. I always preferred the physics traps when they were opportunistic so it's what I look for
TehAmelie: it must be gaming, the levels don't even have a reason to look up
Styxseus: Hah, I can imagine something like crash bandicoot, but you're an orc running through various forts @themerricat
RustyNaylz_102: kill streak on the left of the screen
Twizted_Seed: I remember starcraft tower defense maps
TheGreatPotatoMage: I loved the SC2 tower defence modes... hours of fun
cmdrud87: I remember WC3 tower defense before it das DOTA
RustyNaylz_102: the higher the streak the more money for more traps, its an... -sunglasses- engine of destructions.
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DiscordianTokkan: Just passed Nice Killstreak
JadedCynic: it's just factual
CataclysmicReverb: One man's tower defense is another man's action roguelike
Styxseus: The tar-pits jobs is basically to make all the other traps (and weapons) work better
TransientPoe: By a lot iirc
Styxseus: It's cheaper than placing two
Invitare: 1300
JadedCynic: but would it be cheaper than buying two 1-square barricades?
cmdrud87: as long as it's less than 100% it's a cost reduction
KiroWhitefin: It is cheaper than 1 block barricades, but harder to place
Invitare: no it's 1300
Styxseus: But it more expensive if you wanna build diagonally
Styxseus: arent they 800 normally?
Invitare: 800 for one, 1300 for the double
ArcOfTheConclave: so 1600 v 1300?
vellebastet: oh wow, caught the end of the stream. lrrHEART lrrHEART
KiroWhitefin: Don't expect us to math!
cmdrud87: math is for blockers!
ContingentCat: 3 doors? oh no is it the monty hall problem
TransientPoe: but most blocked paths are 3 spaces wide, so having a double-wide just means you're spending money you don't have to
kusinohki: 3 doors? one leads to a lady, one leads to a tiger, what's the 3rd?
JadedCynic: a consensus intelligence entity evidently isn't great on math
ContingentCat: leave youtube comments?
Laserbeaks_Fury: are they weak to fire?
Xiff_: Can you no longer place it as a single though, to cut costs?
Styxseus: And this is where the 2-wide barricade betrays you ;D 3-wide corridors
novrdd: *gasp*
JadedCynic: the last resort
Lithobraker: Cost one and a green to regenerate? Which taps them and removes them from combat?
Invitare: the base of the stairs is 4
Styxseus: In coop, you can combine you're barricades!
ContingentCat: No the walls betrayed you
BloodnBullets: I appreciate the pathing dots on the minimap
RustyNaylz_102: big agree @BloodnBullets
RustyNaylz_102: watching the ghosts exclusively was ... taxing
Ogrekidd: I swear that was vegeta for a second
RustyNaylz_102: yeah, that little spot there is meat grinder central
RustyNaylz_102: yeah, this shotgun is really making me want to buy this game
JadedCynic: relocate, np
ggodopaste: wait, double-wide barrier!?
TheMerricat: upgrade we just got
ggodopaste: That's not in 2!
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RustyNaylz_102: oof this might get dicey
RustyNaylz_102: i agree on the game kinda trolling you with double sized baracades then giving you a castle with 4 width hallways.
Laserbeaks_Fury: With attitude
CaptainSask: Sounds like my last birthday party
RustyNaylz_102: fill that area with archers
RustyNaylz_102: archers all aorund the rift
Styxseus: Yeah, it's very much "When they are useful, they are VERY useful" but otherwise they're worse--This game has a bunch of things like that, but I think all the OMD games do
RustyNaylz_102: sorry for trying to backseat game. i was getting super nervous for yall
RustyNaylz_102: doing great!!!
Angnor33: We still say 'easy peasy' to sound tougher than we are.
niccus: then your run isn't canon
cmdrud87: there should be a weapon Banhammer +60% vs. trolls
UpstageJMC: difficult wifficult
JadedCynic: "Hardy-tardy"?
Ba_Dum_Tish: Just click on head
ElementalAlchemist: I've clicked once or twice in my life
Twizted_Seed: why not turn a barracade sideways infront of the grinders?
Styxseus: I think unfounded confidence might be a part of warmage training--judging by all of the main characters
JadedCynic: @Styxseus selection bias in the admissions criteria
Papperslappen: Complicated-pomclipated
Styxseus: :D
RustyNaylz_102: oh man, look at that empty space, what if they had forced them over next to that no-wall area and just tossed them into oblivion?!
vellebastet: sykHypers
UpstageJMC: yah know, I'm a bit of a clicker myself
charli3_r: that is some intense lip bitting going on
Ba_Dum_Tish: Extra credit? Is this an exam?
JadedCynic: OOOooooo!
BusTed: ohhhhh!
RustyNaylz_102: lol
empyreon: OOOOooO!
vellebastet: sykLaugh
RustyNaylz_102: ooooooooooooo!
JadedCynic: *offers sidearm for captain to pistol-whip with*
cmdrud87: that place with crazy vrap on the walls? The Louvre?
JadedCynic: or a liter'o'cola
KiroWhitefin: I've heard Shenanigans is a silly place, so never tried it
RustyNaylz_102: Fennigans
JadedCynic: maybe just as a one-off, but it's not a chain
RustyNaylz_102: is the real life version of that
vellebastet: Oh me too
Ba_Dum_Tish: Is anything real in this fever dream of a world
UpstageJMC: Bennigan's here in the states was close. Unfortunately they bankrupt
charli3_r: i would die drinking a litre of cola
JadedCynic: the grinders?
CataclysmicReverb: I think it's not real, some kind of stand in between Applebees and Denny's
RustyNaylz_102: man trolls dont give af about nothin
cmdrud87: lysol?
RustyNaylz_102: it's timed
Vargen_HK: One's actually called "Shenanigans" I don't think so. Restaurants exactly like the one described? There's one a couple blocks from me here in a Virginia college town.
JadedCynic: @CataclysmicReverb and TGI Fridays etc
TheMerricat: there doesn't exist a shenanigans chain I've seen a lot of bars called shenanigans though two guesses on what their theme was
cmdrud87: Shenannigans is probably what Super Mac's are called outside Ireland
JadedCynic: I have 6 1L steel water bottles; this time of year, I try to keep them in the fridge when full
CamelAttack: Shenanigans are real! For I have seen one! But that was like agoa and it may have been destroyed by applebees.
JadedCynic: @CamelAttack are you SURE it was a chain restaurant and not just a one-off tho?
cmdrud87: "we goin' to applebee's after thsi"
Juliamon: And are you sure it wasn't a Bennigan's that you're misremembering?
JadedCynic: I know of two places, one a hotel restaurant, and another a 'sports bar' in my province
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TehAmelie: that one-liner was almost on the level of Rocket Raccoon's "Blam, murdered you"
RustyNaylz_102: the grenade tossed him over there
charli3_r: to trailer park trolls got round the coutside
dumbo3k: The dancing feels very fortnite
Styxseus: I remember it being better in the previous games :P (the victory dance)
vellebastet: My first tower defense was Bloons
bytecaster: It is kinda nice, that you can do something during the wave instead of just watching.
bokochaos: Have you played Sanctum TD before?
Styxseus: Action Towerdefence seems accurate
JadedCynic: the goat simulator folks, Coffee Stain, did a sci-fi type of this fusion
JadedCynic: yeah, Sanctum (and Sanctum 2)
CataclysmicReverb: Cartoony fantasy?
Papperslappen: Dungeon Warfare is my favorite TD
KiroWhitefin: All details are exxagerated in size too
Alness49: It's the medieval-punk
charli3_r: its like techno medievil
cmdrud87: also, the dimensions of the characters
TheMerricat: Sanctum is an awesome version of this. I'm a bit sad that Coffee Stain moved on to Satisfactory and stopped making them though I'm sure Satisfactory is a good game too
KiroWhitefin: words! -.-
JadedCynic: 'medieval punk' style?
TehAmelie: the whole art style is probably just as close to WoW as they thought they could get away with
JadedCynic: knightpunk?
ContingentCat: ironpunk?
vellebastet: @tehamelie That's what I'm thinking
TheMerricat: Ah Cori is talking about the Bard Tales remake
charli3_r: medievalcore
Styxseus: I *think* its something like "The rifts give humanity magic, so they can make food, and cure illness--but it has this side-effect of summoning hordes of orcs that try to use the rifts to travel to the human world"
bokochaos: @TheMerricat I'm glad to hear that Satisfactory is making them good money and attention. Should help fund a future sanctum if the attention holds
JadedCynic: yeah inExile
toenolla: Chaucerpunk?
JadedCynic: no, it was not ultima, but it was a contemporary
JadedCynic: a while ago is right
JadedCynic: Bard's Tale, Ultima, Wizardry
TheMerricat: "Tales of the Unknown: Volume I, better known by its subtitle The Bard's Tale, is a fantasy role-playing video game designed and programmed by Michael Cranford for the Apple II. It was produced by Interplay Productions in 1985 and distributed by Electronic Arts.[3] The game was ported to the Commodore 64, Apple IIGS, ZX Spectrum, Amstrad CPC, Amiga, Atari ST, MS-DOS, Macintosh, and NES. It spawned The Bard's Tale series of games and books."
JadedCynic: mid 80's
ArdCollider: I had it for Apple II+
DiscordianTokkan: There was a Carey Elwes was the voice in the 'remake' on the XBox iirc
Juliamon: 1985 is pretty squarely mid-80s
SkylerRingtail: "dealt with"
Ed25519: The Bard's Tale: 1985 Designer Michael Cranford.
cmdrud87: I didn'z have to work in the mid 89s, so, yeah
Styxseus: :D
JadedCynic: EXACTLY we could ignore the omnipresent threat of nuclear annihliation
cmdrud87: *80s
RustyNaylz_102: right!
charli3_r: i wasn't alive in the 80's
JadedCynic: @DiscordianTokkan yep and on pc
RustyNaylz_102: mideveal-punk
BusTed: Kinda Dungeon Keepery
RustyNaylz_102: sword-punk?
DiscordianTokkan: The Etrian Odyssey series scratches that same itch of "Map the dungeon yourself" and "You have 5 characters, but can swap out"
JadedCynic: ^^^
DiscordianTokkan: (As Bards Tale Original version)
JadedCynic: @RustyNaylz_102 yeah "SwordPunk" sounds kinda the best
Styxseus: There is one called Sanctum thats kindof like this, but the towers are actually towers
SquareDotCube: Sanctum predates Orcs by a year or two, IIRC
MrTulip: It IS good to be bad.
JadedCynic: @DiscordianTokkan when a pad of squared paper was necessary
Styxseus: and Sanctum 2, if memory serves
CataclysmicReverb: I seem to remember a sci-fi thing in the same area, like... sanctum? simulacrum? something like that 8-years ago or so
asddsa28: yeahhhh
vellebastet: Oh yeah! Demo discs!
Loonatic93: Ah... My Apple II gs days.
ContingentCat: the good ol' days
charli3_r: I just realised I'm a year younger than lrr
JadedCynic looks over at two shelves of PCG copies...
cmdrud87: I remember those! I got a call of duty demo via them
DiscordianTokkan: @JadedCynic Yeah! Or in the EO series, on the bottom screen of the DS
vellebastet: What a tangent. sykLaugh
GapFiller: for some of us the worrying part is the possibility we still have those demo discs somewhere
charli3_r: pffffft sentience is for suckers
Styxseus: It's surprisingly satisfying to try and puzzle out trap combinations in this, compared to many other TDs
JadedCynic: @GapFiller /me looks at third shelf of diskettes and CD-roms from mags
electric_claire: They're P-zombies, Cam. Trust us
TheMerricat: I'm guessing I'm one of the few folk who still have old magazines where they have programs printed in BASIC for you to type in :D
Laserbeaks_Fury: Saying things, like "Owch!" and "I'm on fire!"
charli3_r: ARE!?!
ContingentCat: if we had a reason to kill them other than just they're orcs would be nice
Styxseus: I mean, you have the first 2 games ;D
BloodnBullets: to be fair, the are forging armor and weapons and using tactics to commit murder too
kusinohki: @TheMerricat Rainbow magazine? I remember typing in games to play
ArdCollider: Talking Sim for Nox Archaist.
JadedCynic: DosBox + D-Fend
RustyNaylz_102: i missed that part of the lore: whats on the other side of those rifts?
DiscordianTokkan: It's working on GOG versions, IIRC
JadedCynic: :D
SnackPak_: Thanks Cameron
Ed25519: =D
vellebastet: sykLaugh sykLaugh sykLaugh
Styxseus: :D
charli3_r: @LoadingReadyRun the music sounds like bye bye bye
Nigouki: oof
DiscordianTokkan: And also DAMMIT CAM, you're RIGHT
empyreon: BibleThump
ContingentCat: katesLol
Kaorti: boooooooooooooooo
jessieimproved: I've taken good care of my back thankyouverymuch
LathosTiran: U7 has a engin reskin Exault
RustyNaylz_102: wow....
Kaorti: cruel!!!!
CataclysmicReverb: Hey, ibuprofen doesn't work for me :|
electric_claire: Jokes on you, only my knees are bad
Nenluen: it wasn't ultima 7, it was commander keen1
DiscordianTokkan: Also: AllBran Buds are surprisingly tasty
Loonatic93: @LoadingReadyRun I take acetamenophen gall darnit!
JadedCynic looks over at the 8088 xt-compatible my father found in the attic
RustyNaylz_102: age-ist little son of a ----
RustyNaylz_102: lol
Ed25519: highmem.sys =D
JadedCynic: omg that much?!? I could never break 600kB
RustyNaylz_102: :-P
ContingentCat: apples are also good fiber, plus keeping away doctors
Loonatic93: Apple II were not good for fiber.
DiscordianTokkan: Or Wing Commander...
JadedCynic: oh, getting good framerates with TIE Fighter
Nenluen: i remember getting my first gig of HDD space.. it had two drives, one 300mb the other 700
JadedCynic: or Ad Lib
LathosTiran: physical jumpers for the new cards IRQ
SquareDotCube: DMA
JadedCynic: DMA and IRQs
bytecaster: IRQ
RustyNaylz_102: upper memory was my Radiohead cover band name
Kaorti: OHGOD I forgot how that felt!
electric_claire: Dedicated sounds cards were the golden age of PCs
offbeatwitch: yeah IRQ numbers
charli3_r: please i need to be told im not crazy and the music sounds like bye bye bye, NYSNC
Vargen_HK: CD-ROM? Ultima comes on a billion floppy disks, like God intended.
Alness49: "Your sound card works perfectly!"
JadedCynic: FLASHBACKS...
vellebastet: Wow, I do not know what this is about sykLaugh sykLaugh
Kaorti: Or losing the manual and not being able to pass DRM
offbeatwitch: ive been trying to figure out what IRQ my serial port is on. not an extinct problem :D
BusTed: Fiddling with all those settings just to play multiplayer Command & Conquer over the modem.
Laserbeaks_Fury: And no YouTube videos explaining how to do it
cmdrud87: I remember the green and pink plugins on the back of the main PC
MrTulip: Living rent-free up there.
niccus: did gaming even work back then? was it a shared hallucination?
vellebastet: Furtherest I can go back is Gamegear and Nintendo
DiscordianTokkan: Back in MY day Ultima came on 47 Floppy Discs! Back when they were literally FLOPPY
jessieimproved: The real horror is trying to get those old games from your childhood to play now
TheMerricat: @TheMerricat Mine was Syntax, for the zx-81. But yeah Rainbow was a similar type for the TSR. :)
Kaorti: @niccus No on both counts
JadedCynic: changing DIP switches on the mobo to set IRQs hardware
Laserbeaks_Fury: RIP old Blizzard
charli3_r: bye bye bye
JadedCynic: SCSI and IDE (no, not *EIDE*)
miniMacGuru: My first PC had a "soundblaster compatible" card that also had a ribbon cable for the CD-ROM data interface. Pain to get working under Linux since it wasn't standard IDE.
bytecaster: A Dark Portal, perchance?
charli3_r: it sounds like bye bye bye
TehAmelie: all i know of IRQ is that the worst computer trubs i ever had was the famous irql_not_less_or_equal error
LidofLoathing: oh god, is that why it sounds so familiar?
Athelgar: "My ZIP drive is conflicting with my Printer"
JadedCynic: LPT1 is not configured
cmdrud87: I still love it ehan I boot up old games today and they warn me that my "sound card is missing"
TheMerricat: Chat, just a reminder, if you want to play a curated selection of old DOS games and don't want to mess with configs yourself, GOG sells a lot of the best of them and they come with preconfigured dosbox setups :P
SquareDotCube: And then if it wasn't DMA or IRQ, you had to deal with *jumpers*
TheMerricat: And if you don't mind being a sailor on the high seas, I hear old men whisper about a package called eXoDos, which contains multitudes of old games preconfigured and setup to run in Launchbox.
JadedCynic: I'm playing Civ II through DosBox without bothering to mount a virtual drive to have the soundtrack and FMV advisors and wonder cut-scenes, but I just have to wait and say "ok" to the disc not found
cmdrud87: cheer500 For the Horde! Oh wait...
vellebastet: sykLaugh
Styxseus: :D
ElementalAlchemist: legally distinct
TehAmelie: OC don't steal
GhostValv: store brand horde
JadedCynic: For the Legally-Disctinct-Not-Horde™
cmdrud87: yes. definitely not the horde
electric_claire: As weird and bigoted as Blizzard is, I always appreciated how they humanized orcs.
JadedCynic: :D
cmdrud87: Khadgar?
GhostValv: dadgar
Styxseus: It's like a dragons hoard.. But its all orcs (and trolls etc)
GapFiller: thanks for streaming lrrCAMERON lrrCORI lrrHEART lrrHEART lrrHEART
Laserbeaks_Fury: Medhiv?
DeM0nFiRe: o/ lrrHEART
ContingentCat: ol' what'shisface
strebenherz: Thank you for streaming!
Nigouki: Thanks for the stream!
YeetTheRich_: milk boys!
Hewdra: Thank YOU for the nice stream!! <3
vellebastet: Thanks for streaming!
blip2004: nope, its baby time
ContingentCat: thanks Cam and Cori
BusTed: 😬
GhostValv: eaten by baby :)
offbeatwitch: and that means she's dead, right?
GapFiller: dont worry we have Dolls instead
Hewdra: wheelerMuldp wheelerMuldp wheelerMuldp
jessieimproved: Big lady gone :-(
SnackPak_: lrrAWW
niccus: to everyone's regret
DiscordianTokkan: It's Creepy Doll and Sludge Baby time
Juliamon: They're getting swallowed by a giant baby
vellebastet: The BEST part of the game
JadedCynic: @blip2004 oh NOOOOO oh poor bois
Simonark: She's got a fatal "Second Act Of The Game Allergy".
TheMerricat: @electric_claire I like that they humanized them, I'm not too keen on how they culturally coded them but we take what we can from that era don't we.
DeM0nFiRe: She was big AND she was lady AT THE SAME TIME
SirenSongSeas: She was so big and so lady...
ContingentCat: what's even the point if you can't be stepped on by big lady
offbeatwitch: padme meme: that means she's dead, right?
YeetTheRich_: adam needed 2 weeks of to recover
cmdrud87: Scary dolls? Nobody tell Ben
vellebastet: Cam sykLaugh sykLaugh
Juliamon: Just a couple days late for vore day
electric_claire: Frees up a lot of blood for Adam's brain too
KiroWhitefin: Thank you for the stream Cam and Cori!
JadedCynic: @vellebastet or 'worse' depending on your POV
Styxseus: Heh
Invitare: she got bigger
Invitare: then died
strebenherz: Take care!
JadedCynic: thanks for the fun! cya
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
SnackPak_: Thanks for the stream
jessieimproved: thanks for the stream
blip2004: @JadedCynic Adam called it cute!
CAKHost: Thanks for the stream!
ElementalAlchemist: thanks!
Styxseus: Thanks for the stream! <3
vellebastet: lrrHEART lrrHEART
offbeatwitch: as we all know, when somebody dies in resident evil, that means they're gone forever
TehAmelie: usually in the later RE games you have to kill bosses like 10-20 times before they stay dead, Lady Dimitrescu must have been really special
DiscordianTokkan: @Juliamon I had to LOOK UP what that Fan thread was about, because I had no idea about it. So, hooray being out of touch enough that I miss sources of psychic damage!
TheMerricat: Chat if you haven't already spoiled youself on the ending and story of Village, I think some of you are going to laugh very hard about what was said when we get to the end :P
LordZarano: Internet Archive also has a ton of games playable in the browser
blip2004: what was said?
TheMerricat: About people never coming back from the dead (sarcasticly) in RE games :D
TehAmelie: i'll have to laugh in my sleep. stupid timezones always get me
Earthenone: sleep well
TheMerricat: Preemptive good night then @TehAmelie :)
TehAmelie: thanks. y'all have fun
DarkMorford sneaks in and spoops chat
TheMerricat: Is it better to be vored or spooped?
Juliamon: Depends on your kink
TheMerricat: lol
DiscordianTokkan: @DarkMorford *flinch* BUH! lrrSPOOP
Lithobraker: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam play horror games until they find the key that will bring them true happiness. Game: Resident Evil Village) at Tue 05:00 PM PDT (15m from now).
TheMerricat: I really wish Microsoft would fix the memory leak in their app that links your phone to your computer, I keep having to pop open the task manager and kill and restart it because it grows to eating up 2-3gb of memory.
CAKHost: Don't have time for Graham's more recent video but I did watch James finally pays off the ice cream debt. That was nice of him!
DeM0nFiRe: The ice cream one was such a nice chill video
TheMerricat: I'm kinda surprised renting an ice cream truck just gets them to drive by, not actually gets you any free ice cream
DarkMorford: Probably depends on the rental service
DeM0nFiRe: I think it kinda makes sense. If they aren't booked they will go to wherever they think they will make the most money. If you book them, you are kind of like paying them for the lost business by going somewhere less trafficed
jessieimproved: If it's anything like a food truck rental, there is a minimum cost to get it to come out, and you'll have to pay the difference if they don't sell enough
Lithobraker: Wait what video was this?
DeM0nFiRe: It's on Graham's channel
jessieimproved: @Lithobraker check the Youtube
TheMerricat: It was a gvlog on Graham's channel @Lithobraker
electra310: It's a really fun video
TheMerricat: and I just realized what @CAKHost host meant by the latest video as I notice there is a new one about the Olympic logo on his channel too.
electra310: Ooh, new video
CAKHost: I only saw it because I saw LRRBot post the update on Graham's opinion on Olympic icons and went to his channel; the Olympic one I feel will be humorous and witty as per Graham's usual manner
CAKHost: lol
electra310: Oh my god, it's 40 minutes of Graham talking about a thing. I'm so pleased!