gsyhiap: lrrDILLY lrrDILLY lrrDILLY
Anubis169: lrrDILLY lrrDILLY lrrDILLY
gsyhiap: because.
VTMonster: Uno Mas? Por que no dos?
Anubis169: on Adam's stream there was a running gag where Alex or James would come on screen shouting "DILLY BAR! DILLY BAR!" and force one into Adam's mouth while he was playing :D
CrazymattCaptain: you can kill everybody and die to zone so noone is on the helicopter
SlyTQ: i now ghave aq second dilly bar
wicker_knight: Ghave, Ghitu of Spores?
GlennSeto: @SlyTQ #blessed
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
JuniorRoll: Thanks!
wicker_knight: !card Ghave
LRRbot: Ghave, Guru of Spores [2WBG] | Legendary Creature — Fungus Shaman [0/0] | Ghave, Guru of Spores enters the battlefield with five +1/+1 counters on it. / {1}, Remove a +1/+1 counter from a creature you control: Create a 1/1 green Saproling creature token. / {1}, Sacrifice a creature: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
xantos69: Thanks for the games James!
Gascitygaming: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: XCOM 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (11m from now).
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: It's nearly 34 C in my room. I'mma get a not a dilly bar but close enough
Unas84: what version of Ticket?
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: The fan does nothing :(
GlennSeto: Is Let's Nope going to be RE2?
Unas84: oh ok, missed that one I think
wicker_knight: 2019-01-25
GlennSeto: Ah, guess there's always Tuesday.
wicker_knight: bai bai
GlennSeto: Thanks for the games! :)
Unas84: gbye
gualdhar: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: XCOM 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (9m from now).
Phailhammer: cya :)
sithenin: Ohh xcom2
anyGould: !uptime
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justwhatever_idk: !uptime
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lilyoswald: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: XCOM 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (5m from now).
devin_yesthatdevin: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: XCOM 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (4m from now).
mahpete_: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: XCOM 2) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (2m from now).
Alephred: XCOM give it to ya!
Gekyouryuu: hey, all
TheAinMAP: Signal.
wildpeaks: lrrSIGNAL
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niccus: time for the alleged third game of the x-com series
tim19862: lrrSIGNAL lrrAWESOME
Alephred: How is this the third game of the series? Are you counting Enemy Within?
drfox17: so um, I know... LRR isn't usually big on sims, but
drfox17: Is it at all possible to get a Ace Combat 7 stream?
OldsCool: Hype
acuilador: @Alephred I think Original, Remake, This?
TheAinMAP: katesAir
jonasjonIV: just in time!
TheAinMAP: Hello.
wildpeaks: oh hi there
Maddrius: hello
Mr_Whyt: greetings
Despoiler98: YAY XCOM 2
Nigouki: greetings fellow humans
tenthtechpriest: sciWave
Gekyouryuu: time for our SECOND time playing WotC on Talking Sim. :3
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wildpeaks: XCOM 2: electric boogaloo
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Lord_Hosk: oh wait... I can't
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wildpeaks: More XCom than expected
Mr_Whyt: X:com2 is not as good as xcom 1
GlennSeto: Mug game is on point today.
wildpeaks: challenging but fair, vs just random dice rolls ?
Aarek: ItsBoshyTime ?
geekyasari: Ohai.
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geekyasari: A bit late.
Lord_Hosk: That Mug was stolen from the studios break room... which is double funny GlennSeto
drfox17: i like xcom 2 better, but that's a personal thing
DoctorOfBeard: how easy it is to recover from mistakes?
Alephred: I think all hardness should be measured on the Mohs hardness scale.
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AmoriLinguae: Cam's hair looks really cool today. Thank you both for simulating talking.
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GlennSeto: @Lord_Hosk I hope the bitter irony doesn't affect the taste.
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chickenace11: dark souls vs mario when it comes to death on stages
tenthtechpriest: HI BEEJ
Despoiler98: BEEEEEEEEj
Laserbeaks_Fury: Odds on losing a rookie in the opening mission?
wildpeaks: The more Beej the merrier
Taveena: Time to fuckle up!
chickenace11: Hi beej
EricTheOrange: Hi hi hi~
rucdoc: morning Treej
samb6678: beeeeeeeej
Malfegore_: Oh good it's just starting
Maddrius: Welcome Beej
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Malfegore_: Hey Beej
Alephred: Tiny Beej!
EagleKeeper_F15: beejcom
sithenin: Any xcam list for tonight?
EricTheOrange: Time to get absolutly shittered by fish aliens
acuilador: Pepper grinder what?
Fantusta: beejcom
Kramburger: I see that it's time to Beejin
wildpeaks: enough headphones for Beej's 4 ears
Despoiler98: HURRY BEEJ
Lord_Hosk: the password is Holy mother forking shirt balls
tergonis: beej vs cords, the ultimate grudge match
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Dread_Pirate_Westley: Cammander and Coriander and Beejander?
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GrandLlamaQ: XCam 2 - Beej of the Cori
drfox17: legacy ops is new!
Laserbeaks_Fury: oh, okay we are absolutely losing at least one rookie on the first mission :P
wildpeaks: oh good
Lord_Hosk: Its not possible
Katten_Rastyr: A Talking Sim with Beej would be wild cirLaugh
TheAinMAP: [Gasps]
tuckamanian: beejs could be like a shoulder angel for either of you
Maddrius: ah, back to the beginning.
tergonis: we gonna die y
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samuraitiger19: Yes Advent Officer. This stream right here. They have been cooperating with the insurgents!!
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Malfegore_: Oh boy here we go
2Flower: Is there a betting pool on how many restarts we have?
jonasjonIV: I am excite.
Maddrius: They said the thing!
BlandSpice: The password was swordfish!
drfox17: pft, nice samuaritiger
2Flower: There's an ORDINARY gene therapy clinic?
Maddrius: @2Flower in this continum, yes
OldsCool: quick send in Troy
Nigouki: i love the Advent armor so much
Dread_Pirate_Westley: I need to play this again.
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Despoiler98: so many STAR TREK VOICEOVERS
Nigouki: really tempted to attempt the cosplay but have way too many projects already
drfox17: claymore mine > Remote Start
sithenin: This expansion was so good
Maddrius: Huh, haven't seen this version of the intro. Neat.
OldsCool: i wish they had been able to get Spiner for this
ProfBadger: I need to play my mode version of this... jut so much.
Alephred: Does Beej at least get a chair?
drfox17: I didn't mean better than, I meant into remote start
ChaoticObserver: @Maddrius it was added with the War of the Chosen expansion
jonasjonIV: Beej needs no chair
Despoiler98: Deanna Troi is gonna MESS YOU UP
Maddrius: @ChaoticObserver sweet
Kramburger: He requires additional pylons to complete his work
phorrestgaze: ooh, looks better than last week
ChaoticObserver: This, and then it goes into the previous first movie I believe
Lord_Hosk: ITS HER!
Master_Gunner: This is a different intro than I remember.
Master_Gunner: Neat
Laserbeaks_Fury: She said REAPERS :p
OldsCool: ahh! REAPERS!
GlennSeto: Which one is set after loosing the war, this expansion or the base game?
Makimachine: So much Star Trek in this one. <3
drfox17: can't know!... so what about the bodies?
Rivulatus_: Just got back from work, and there is a Beej in the background......
wicker_knight: @GlennSeto XCOM 2
Mr_Whyt: this time it's personal
SirBiffaloEsq: Now the war, truly begins
2Flower: Ah, yes, "reapers." We have dismissed this claim.
brainbosh: Cover the tracks = leave dead body lying there
ArtemisKing: The game hasnt been changed on twitch
Alephred: Jake Solomon just wanted to hire as many ST;TNG as he could.
mahpete_: Now the war truly begins!
Lord_Hosk: She just declared war... until you say "we are at war" you cant war... its the rules
drfox17: leave a scientist who knew you were here
Gekyouryuu: @GlennSeto both, kinda? this is the same story as the base game, but with more side bits tossed in, iirc
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: this is some strange looking gargoyles Cam
wicker_knight: @ArtemisKing it is for me. Try refreshing?
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cotillion1850: I mean yes or also alot of the cast of gargoyles
jonasjonIV: "Hello, I am Hu-man"
GlennSeto: @Gekyouryuu Oh, it's like a director's cut?
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jamesinor: Gonna be honest, if your empire has uniforms like that, is there any doubt that you're evil?
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Rivulatus_: Also did The adress why they are doing the very latest version at the start of the stream?
ArtemisKing: ah, now it is, thanks, hadnt closed out since one more haha
I_Am_Clockwork: this guy always look like Willum DeFoe to me
wildpeaks: and sunglasses at night
Despoiler98: "Premptive"
Lord_Hosk: Hey, its that person from the Gargoyles TV show.
Alephred: @Rivulatus_ Cam said he wanted to turn on all the things, because he had thoughts about hardness.
Gekyouryuu: @GlennSeto something like that. it's more like Pokemon Ultra Sun/Moon compared to Sun/Moon. same story, but there's new tweaks.
AmoriLinguae: I guess the patriot act got supersized
tenthtechpriest: from the previous game
Mechsican: but cam... you said there was only one.
Rivulatus_: thatk you @Alephred
wicker_knight: is it even the same VA as original bradford? doesn't look or sound much like him
GlennSeto: @Gekyouryuu Neat. Thanks for catching me up. :)
drfox17: so many layers for snipers
Phailhammer: wicker_knight: It's not, but I think he did have a role in EU/EW/
korvys: Sometimes you're ON TOP of skyscrapers (but still playing within 2 stories total)
Despoiler98: EL KABOOM
Gekyouryuu: @GlennSeto yw. :3
Despoiler98: TALLYHO go get em Xcom
drfox17: or just air combat drones
ProfBadger: There are.... SO MANY mods for this
WeedenProject: I love the story mission near the end, when you're on top of the control tower, that one looks really cool :)
Lord_Hosk: You dont have a helmet... PUT ON YOUR HELMET ROOKIE
VoidByAnyOtherName: hi background beej lrrBEEJ
wildpeaks: when one starts in hardest difficulty ironmode, it's fair of the game to assume you don't need the tutorial
drfox17: just as much ballistic protection as a boonie hat
Dread_Pirate_Westley: Is there a tutorial mission in WotC? Benezia saves "us"
Alness49: 1 started off big then narrowed in, this is starting small then expanding out later
Rivulatus_: So LRR, can you describne what you mean by the difference between strategic and tactical?
Mr_Whyt: strategic = moving armies tactical = moving swuads
mahpete_: Cam is comparing it to the old games, right?
GlennSeto: Move, minor, standard, almost.
KeiRaccoon: @mahpete_ Yeah. They played one of the classic ones last week.
Despoiler98: how could they know with our JET POWERED DROPSHIP
Rivulatus_: @mahpete_ they played ufo defence last week
mahpete_: ah, sad I missed it
I_Am_Clockwork: No Forget Ye SALT
Malfegore_: Beej needs that salt
samuraitiger19: Why was Beej just... standing there?
korvys: These levels do looks like a mall
Alephred: Yes, XCom generates its own salt.
GlennSeto: @samuraitiger19 Hadn't seen the intro yet.
BloodnBullets: oh hey yay more xcom today!
chickenace11: eh
samuraitiger19: Mulder would be so disappointed in all the aliens we're killing
BloodnBullets: im pretty sure New Zealand got missed of the nationality list again :/
GlennSeto: But this is distinct from overwatch??
drfox17: advent = new earth gov
Rivulatus_: @BloodnBullets Australia is the closest we have got
Laserbeaks_Fury: And also, after some time, patrols cheat towards you
drfox17: it's possible that new zealand no longer exists...
BloodnBullets: i find that insulting @Rivulatus_ lrrFRUMP
SenseAmidstMadness: cheats
GalacticBoredom: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 19:32.
e_bloc: cheer100 hello two great LRRspeople.
I_Am_Clockwork: It really bugged me that, iirc, only euro-centric language packages were used for the soldier VO's
samuraitiger19: Seriously I love Mulder but his I won't kill aliens is so stupid. Espeically considering how many of the Monsters of the Week he kills.
samuraitiger19: @I_Am_Clockwork Yeah I was disspointed that there were no asian, african, or middle eastern languages
Laserbeaks_Fury: Yeah that have to flank to see you
GlennSeto: How beholden are you to RNGesus in this version/difficulty?
samuraitiger19: @GlennSeto Very
Mr_Whyt: grenade?
GlennSeto: oh dear
myPasswordIsUpsilon: 3-4 IIRC?
Mr_Whyt: holy hand grenade
I_Am_Clockwork: @samuraitiger19 I want to hear some yell "GRENADE OUT" in Arabic or Chineese or Swahili, damnit
samuraitiger19: Dr. Vahlen would be so disapointed... All those alien artifacts lost
HesGotNoPants: or double granade
ProfBadger: They'r not artifacts anymore.
Laserbeaks_Fury: At least in XCOM2, from what I understand the odds are accurate, and on easier difficulties you are given hidden bonuses like miss streaks
wicker_knight: @samuraitiger19 eh, Vahlen's busy growing super-snakes
drfox17: there's also a target preview button?
drfox17: or is that a mod?
BloodnBullets: oh! didnt know about that crosshairs feature
brainbosh: Fuck, I NEVER knew about the crosshair thing!
wicker_knight: @drfox17 added in the War of the Chosen expansion
samuraitiger19: @wicker_knight And other super things as well
justwhatever_idk: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 23:54.
ayirbudd: same brainbosh
Chozo_Hybrid: I love this expansion.
ayirbudd: everytime i watch cam play this game I learn something new
wicker_knight: @samuraitiger19 right
ayirbudd: ohh tank or heals?
drfox17: not until you're revealed
samuraitiger19: @wicker_knight Seriously... WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?!!
justwhatever_idk: we should name one of our coolest soldiers Fuck Johnson, that'd be a pretty cool name
drfox17: and they will prioritize cover
wicker_knight: @samuraitiger19 I've not played the expansion so don't know the lore, but I'm guessing "SCIENCE"?
jonasjonIV: I do like how in this they take turns on overwatch
Jacobontherun1: buttery smooth
samuraitiger19: NICE!!!
Maddrius: nice!
mahpete_: Yata!
TheAinMAP: Got them.
TreeVor84: lrrSACK
Dix: P R A I S E RNGesus
Despoiler98: RNGJSUS
BloodnBullets: like a well oiled machine
samb6678: y o o o o o o
withr: you made 3 66% shots
Chozo_Hybrid: Nicely done.
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN
ProfBadger: solid engagement.
HesGotNoPants: lrrSACK PraiseIt
xantos69: Quite good attachment.
sithenin: Height gives a bonus to hit as well doesn't it?
ProfBadger: yep
Alephred: You can name your weapons! I always named mine for their mods.
JarofGoats: When everything goes perfectly in an ambush... so satisfying!
brainbosh: Repeater OP
drfox17: and it works on EVERYTHING. Including tanks
Mechsican: 5-10-15% ofr each tier.
MrWrann: Repeaters make Reapers 100% super op
MintChocDoublin: love the free relpad mod
ProfBadger: so interesting fact, Advent troopers don't actually have great stats
MintChocDoublin: reload*
Laserbeaks_Fury: and that was just 3 grunts
justwhatever_idk: is this our first stream of XCOM 2 on Talk Sim
Nigouki: iirc there's at least one officer and one mech suit on this map?
HesGotNoPants: ya but if you forget to thank rnjesus your high roll prayers wont get heard
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Swamplor: Basically, a squad of 4 is too small for the amount of variance in the game
ProfBadger: not so much...
HesGotNoPants: lrrSPOT
Laserbeaks_Fury: yeah Flanking is big tech
ProfBadger: THERE IT IS!
jadedcynic: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 29:19.
Scy_Anide: Oh yeah, gift subs show up on stream. So much for anonymity.
Scy_Anide: welp
ProfBadger: PECTOIDS!
jadedcynic: wow, my twitch notifier is running REALLY late :P
BloodnBullets: not so little any more
Juliamon: You can gift anonymously
withr: Sectoids got some human in them
AegeusEvander: now they are long bois
cheetoJack: seabatBRAIN ?
AegeusEvander: cirGreed
samuraitiger19: lrrGREED lrrGREED lrrGREED
ArcOfTheConclave: lrrGREED lrrSACK ?
drfox17: I hope cam takes a mission with a timer to show how this strat won't work on most maps
drfox17: taking risks is a big thing in this game
HesGotNoPants: lrrGREED lrrSACK PraiseIt
JarofGoats: "Just one more square, it won't hurt". Surprise Sectopod!
ArcOfTheConclave: stupid timers
BloodnBullets: very much a luxury in this game
brainbosh: Damn timers in this game.
Maddrius: Dear Dr.s LRR. Any thoughts on trying Mario vs. Rabbids for a comparison on xcom style in a wildly different setting?
wildpeaks: oh yeah, that would be a fun one to compare with
drfox17: i like the timers. it emphasizes that ADVENT controls the world. You can't sit and overwatch when the entire local police/military is coming for you
Mr_sandmens: !Uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 32:18.
justwhatever_idk: that potted plant is a part of a counter XCOM unti
ProfBadger: Always be rollin'
BloodnBullets: you gotta play to win
justwhatever_idk: unit*
cinqetoiles123: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 32:34.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Overwatch has a penalty to your accuracy
cameronj115: hello cammander
samuraitiger19: Enjoying my favorite Canadian comedy troupe with my favorite Canadian whiskey. Life is good.
Nigouki: there's the good ol' RNGesus
wildpeaks: double-missed, ahh now that feels like XCom
TheAinMAP: Whew.
wildpeaks: now the game truly begins
wicker_knight: And the human gets to roll until they lose, whereas the AI gets to roll as long as the player plays
JarofGoats: What difficulty level has a sectoid on the first mission?
wicker_knight: Impossible
wicker_knight: possibly also classic?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Early missions are really hard
BloodnBullets: cammerons default difficulty
drfox17: full cover is a good thing
samuraitiger19: Wow lucky recruit
lilyoswald: wow, a sectoid on mission 1? I don't remember that
Swamplor: On high difficulty it is pretty easy to lose this mission. And if you "win" with anything less than 4 healthy soldiers with promotions you might as well restart anyway
drfox17: limited range
withr: Still LoS
drfox17: they must also have direct LOS
HesGotNoPants: did someone make the exact sound of Maggie suckling on her pacifier in the Simpsons, or am I having a stroke?
Aenir798: It needs line of sight, but it doesn't need to worry about cover
wicker_knight: @HesGotNoPants do you smell toast
Alephred: That was the panicked recruit breathing heavy.
mahpete_: better lucky *and* good
Laserbeaks_Fury: nice
phorrestgaze: good dakka
wicker_knight: me neither
HesGotNoPants: @wicker_knight no toast, but I heard a pacifier
ProfBadger: that' was a car
wildpeaks: game is trying to lure us into a false sense of security
drfox17: sometimes you need to take crazy risks, like having someone stand out of cover to ensure a kill
Mr_Whyt: the earth shattering kaboom
Freshly_Toasted: Car on fire exploded
NexVesica: There was an accident at the firework factory
Despoiler98: ZOMBER
TheAinMAP: guyjudgeZombeav
Havok4: Residual Human Resources
jonasjonIV: one of three types oz zombies...
lilyoswald: are we on legendary?
darkora: RIP
hoktauri: the game is trying to confuse us by being remotely fair
justwhatever_idk: zompies
JarofGoats: rip
samuraitiger19: There's still a chance
Laserbeaks_Fury: Yeah, putting a Sectoid on this mission before you can get a ranger really bites
drfox17: take the exposed corner, the trooper will move to remove the flanking
Swamplor: If you can kill the soldier, then the sectoid and the zombie don't care about cover
HesGotNoPants: all I heard was triple granade
Fantusta: reap-ositioning
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Revelia: Good memories of watching a swiftly titling Cam play this.
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brainbosh: Too stupid to cover
samuraitiger19: What is your drink tonight Cam?
drfox17: grenade will force the trooper to move
wildpeaks: !advice
LRRbot: Cycle your contents.
Mr_Whyt: fire bad
HesGotNoPants: !bad advice
LRRbot: Firm belief!
samuraitiger19: uh oh
lilyoswald: yikes
Freshly_Toasted: Yikes
wicker_knight: what just happened?
grimpokemon: Being on fire does tend to change your decision making
wicker_knight: sectoid plasma gun?
JusticeJuice: Has anyone played Mutant Year Zero? I really enjoy it's take on tactical stealth. The ability to thin the enemies and choose your angle of attack.
drfox17: yes, sectoids have wrist blasters
BloodnBullets: yup, sectoid plasma gun
drfox17: if they can flank you, they will shoot, but other wise just psi
wildpeaks: yeah, XCom meets Stalker game is fun
brainbosh: Do zombies double move if they can't attack?
Swamplor: Well, then my advice was bad and its a good thing no one listened to me :)
MeadyOchre: Is this impossible and gatecrasher?
wicker_knight: yes and yes
phorrestgaze: oof
Saintnex: WOOOW
MeadyOchre: mjbF
Mr_Whyt: restart
wildpeaks: well, fudge
samuraitiger19: I think we're just dead here?
gamercat88: lrrAWW lrrSCOOP
Spacecarl: my god that neck
Fantusta: :lrrscoop:
SpoonfullOfSugar: did anyone else see that last guys neck?
Fantusta: lrrSCOOP
BlameBlair: linkusF linkusShrug
grimpokemon: Noodle neck
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HesGotNoPants: did you see his neck strech on death?
Laserbeaks_Fury: And this game really forces you to attempt to flank all the time
nhouse1919: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 43:35.
ProfBadger: Noe that you can mod a lot of that information in, and once you do, the game becomes a little strange.
SuperSugarSloth: katesRip
BloodnBullets: Its difficult to plan, but its not unrealistic
drfox17: XCOM 2 alters the enemy unknown meta by forcing you to make risky moves, like moving a soldier to point blank range to crit someone
MeadyOchre: FYI, XCOM 2 has angled partial flanking. i.e. the more narrow the angle, even if you're not flanking, the better your odds to hit
Laserbeaks_Fury: It gets easier as the game goes on as you are able to specialize
ProfBadger: I'm not sire Aiming angles is default.
Asimech: It's interesting how both the 90s games and the Firaxis ones suffer from poorly informing the players, but in different ways.
ProfBadger: sure*
Freshly_Toasted: Then you miss with a 90%
NexVesica: Yeah, the first mission is honestly one of the roughest just because you have such bare bones options
korvys: This is why I like Mario+Rabids - The only chances are 0%, 50%, or 100%
tenthtechpriest: people have died in vegas for trying to get 50% odds on things
MeadyOchre: Did they turn it off from being default?
SquareDotCube: So my question is, would you consider a Talking Sim on Mario Rabbids since it takes a spin on XCOM's mechanics?
MeadyOchre: My bad!
Dix: I actually jsut picked up Mario Rabbids
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MeadyOchre: Have you tried Into the Breach?
coolcowboy: what about Mutant Year Zero
Dix: Its definitely not bad to parse the hit/miss
ProfBadger: I think it's even closer to a puzzle game in that respect..
Asimech: And e.g. in the 90s games you could "inch" forward every time testing if there was line of sight, in Firaxis games that's not an option so the LoS being hard to determine feels worse. At least to me.
viridimayai: Movement also feels really good in that game
cameronj115: why no xcom enemy within or xcom apocalypse
Dix: You could have lost 4 turns ago and not know it yet
mahpete_: is it hard because things can spiral out of control quickly?
ayirbudd: mahpete exactly
Laserbeaks_Fury: Where is the line between what you can reasonably expect from player skill and just rolling the dice over and over till you win.
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ulexarX: Also because it's incredibly hard to make things spiral back into control
ayirbudd: actually yes. Cam said it perfectly
wildpeaks: talking of hard games, There Are Billions could be a good one to show too (and there were updates since the last time you played it)
MeadyOchre: Cam, are you aware of the Line of Play in the game?
ArcOfTheConclave: I forget if any games are like this but I like games that have all the enemies spawned but hidden instead of spawning them as you explore. Rewards stealth and bypassing enemies.
wicker_knight: yeah you can steer the ship of fate somewhat, but you're not going to go far tacking against the wind
Zephyr256k: You can get to a point where you're in control. but you have to play pretty unaturally to get there.
Zath_: Are you familiar with the double RN system which Fire Emblem uses and actively lies to the player about odds with?
e_bloc: Caps lost in OT and I can't even
ProfBadger: The game is heavily RNG, and while it's in your favour, it's not guaranteed
HesGotNoPants: if I've been playing a game for hours, and already lost that whole time, I'd be pissed
MeadyOchre: Line of Play in XCOM 2 is how enemies adjust to your approach. Basically, they have a patrol method that will move them so that they intersect with your squad's path to the objective.
Despoiler98: what is the enjoyment of forcing this level of difficulty on yourself when you know it will only lead to multiple attempts due to RNG? why not play on a normal level to enjoy the narrative of the game?
lilyoswald: This is especially true in the early game. I think my biggest problem with XCOM is the difficulty curve is reversed. It starts hard and as you get better and better troops and stuff you get more options and more reliable options, making the game easier even though the enemies get stronger too
NexVesica: I actually think X-com 2 is a little easier to recover from on non-impossible difficulties, but the longer tech times on impossible make it much harder
Swamplor: @ulexarX Exactly. All the variance is on the bad side of par, so when things go worse than expected (and over the course of the campaign they will) there's very little way to get back on track
ayirbudd: nice!
LiveFaust: 60% of the time it works EVERY time!
MeadyOchre: Regardless of whether the pod is active or not, the pods will move to a point that intersects between your squad and the objective, to force engagement.
wildpeaks: the extra salt :D
BloodnBullets: maybe try flank left and encounter the sectoid first?
Kaorti: Feels like in Overwatch when I can't stop aiming just to the left of people's heads.
Saintnex: Its like they remembered they had to lead their shot, and then went wayyy too far
RealGamerCow: Enemy in my sight-Ooh a bird!
Despoiler98: what is the enjoyment of forcing this level of difficulty on yourself when you know it will only lead to multiple attempts due to RNG? why not play on a normal level to enjoy the narrative of the game?
Mr_Whyt: bunker down and wait for the mto come to you?
ProfBadger: well the odds create a narrative.
Nigouki: i hope we get to the stabby rangers tonight
sithenin: I remember when I first got xcom 2 my files were broken somehow. I would miss nearly every shot even really high percentages. Then my game crashed, updated a file, and suddenly I hit much better.
ayirbudd: i might just have to boot up xcom 2 again...
coolcowboy: cheer50 frozen bits from Montreal <3
Makimachine: Same here. Haven't tried the new patch yet.
Laserbeaks_Fury: There also an additional RNG element with the map itself
Despoiler98: what is the enjoyment of forcing this level of difficulty on yourself when you know it will only lead to multiple attempts due to RNG? why not play on a normal level to enjoy the narrative of the game?
Saintnex: welp thats not great
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ayirbudd: its a bold strategy cotton lets see how it works out for him
samuraitiger19: OH I hate losing to misclicks
NexVesica: Despoiler98 Most people don't start out on impossible, but Cam has already played the game/series before
lilyoswald: Xcom 2 is very susceptible to UI failure like misclicks
NexVesica: And if you've played it a bunch, the lower difficulties are just kinda meh
drfox17: @Despoiler98 Some of the fun is winning the game on normal, and then progressing onto harder difficulties
HesGotNoPants: cam your flying pretty close to the sun
coolcowboy: nothing beats the missclicks inducing iddle dodging enemies from Original sin
ProfBadger: there are also some interesting design choices.
sithenin: Its especially easy to missclick a fiddly grenade throw
BlandSpice: Overwatch pays off
lilyoswald: ok, that actually went really well
Nigouki: RNGesus forgives the misclick?
samuraitiger19: OH MY GOD!!
Asimech: Mis-clicks are one reason why I tend to prefer "order-commit" type systems, like in Sword of the Stars or Frozen Synapse.
Saintnex: that was an amazingly successful overwatch
NexVesica: It is really satisfying to play through each difficulty tier and then tackle the highest one in this game. They tend to play pretty differently and you actively learn each time you increase the difficulty
ProfBadger: Like, on non-Legendary difficulties, the computer actually technically cheats for you.
mahpete_: what sliders does the game move to adjust difficulty?
lilyoswald: time to get agro
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mahpete_: could we look at that to see what the game thinks is hard?
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Despoiler98: but you're not talking about it, you're complaining about how hard it is, the RNG of this level is obviously cheating in favor of the AI so what is the reward other than waiting to the RNG to favor you? Its like buying a lottery ticket
lilyoswald: the precise mechanics of LOS in this game has some odd consequences
ProfBadger: @mahpete_ the game works on straight missins won /lost.
wicker_knight: @mahpete_ they're mostly hidden, but there's known to be some hidden fudging of, for example, the chance for a flanking shot and the AI for movement
NexVesica: The RNG doesn't cheat in favor of player or AI on this difficulty
wicker_knight: @Despoiler98 none of that is true?
samuraitiger19: HOLY!!!
MeadyOchre: Higher difficulties increase enemy health, slightly unshackle the AI, increase enemy hit and crit chances
drfox17: it's cori!
lilyoswald: man our squadies are heros
Labjer: Karma soon
justwhatever_idk: thanks Cori for being a Luck Sack
Izandai: 90% chance to hit means 90% chance to hit.
HesGotNoPants: computer moved to potty mode
Fantusta: lrrSACK lrrSACK
gamercat88: lrrSACK cori
Scy_Anide: The problematic part is actually that so many OTHER games cheat in your favor without telling you
Laserbeaks_Fury: Yeah, like miss streaks increase your chances to hit the next shot
Izandai: ^^^
ProfBadger: That's mostly to avoid getting bogged down.
Izandai: It makes people think that XCOM cheats against you when it's actually totally honest.
wicker_knight: @Scy_Anide I wouldn't call that bad, it's just a different design goal
Scy_Anide: Good point
Scy_Anide: "problematic" isn't the best choice of words
wicker_knight: yeah, but I suspect I agree with your point that it makes parsing this game unexpectedly hard
sithenin: True random has way more and longer streaks than most people think it should
brainbosh: Can we talk at some time about how games "cheating" in your favor is actually a good thing for game enjoyment?
Nigouki: what about the mystery explosion in the fog of war last time? maybe an extra group?
ProfBadger: Yeah, it's a need to have the game move on.
RebekahWSD: I love dressing them up, but then I feel bad when they die.
Scy_Anide: I find that cheating in my favor is only a good thing because it's ingrained
MeadyOchre: @Nigouki Most likely a missed shot impacting an explosive environmental object
Labjer: Xcom2 is the very best game for Cosmetic Mods
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: genes or jeans Cori?
Rhynerd: Their nationality
BloodnBullets: and the propaganda posters in the expansion
Laserbeaks_Fury: It's also a shift from X-COM 1 where harder difficulty penalized you on higher difficulty. It's essentially the same, but the framing feels so much better
drfox17: @Nigouki Sometimes missed shots hit cars
NexVesica: I think my big complaint about this mission is you have to win it. It'd be okay if you could lose and then go on as normal. You'd be in a really rough spot because you'd have no squadies, but at least then you could grab a flashbang and hope for the best next mission
Rhynerd: Their arms
Asimech: The way I see it is that if enough people are complaining about the AI cheating there's problem _somewhere_ in the game, even if it's not the AI cheating.
tenthtechpriest: change up whether or not their limbs are made of robot bits
Scy_Anide: I struggle to enjoy Xcom at all because of it
Scy_Anide: among other reasons of course
samb6678: @xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx porque no los dos?
ProfBadger: turns out, XCOM rookies are good compared to troopers so there's a chance that 'nothing happens' when both sides miss.
geekyasari: I'm curious, what does the green bar beneath health represent?
Laserbeaks_Fury: EXP i think
wicker_knight: exhaustion
ProfBadger: @geekyasari Will.
Scy_Anide: "Cheating in my favor" is a shortcut to balancing difficulty and enjoyment
samb6678: quality of cover?
drfox17: exhaustion, new mechanic for this expansion
ProfBadger: How likely they are to panic.
Scy_Anide: because that's a difficult thing to balance
Laserbeaks_Fury: ohh right, one of those expac mechanics
wicker_knight: I dunno. I don't really like the "cheating in my favor" description all that much. The AI defines the rules of the game. Whatever the AI executes is the game
ProfBadger: Well, their will drops as the fight goes on, then they get tired.
TraceBullet: boop with extreme force
drfox17: grenade
NexVesica: Less cheating in your favor and more like, background benefits you're not aware of
wicker_knight: yeah
lilyoswald: @Scy_Anide not necessarily, the difficulty about random chances in games is that it doesn't feel random. I have designed this sort of thing before, true random just creates such feel bads quite often
sithenin: Tough cover
NexVesica: A lot of succeeding in X-com 2 is removing as much of the RNG element as possible. That's why grenade units are particularly good, you're always doing damage, the RNG part is just how much damage
NexVesica: But that's better than having to RNG for hit and damage
lilyoswald: clusters of negative events, extremely unlikely outcomes that prevent planning
drfox17: push the sectoid on the right
lilyoswald: All of these things happen often in true RNG and lead to very negative user exeperiences
Scy_Anide: @lilyoswald Oh absolutely, true random is both difficult to recreate and extremely problematic because it's...literally random, but additional systems can help that considerably.
ProfBadger: there's the RNG
BlandSpice: It seems like the smart play to kill it given that it toasted a dude in the last run
sithenin: Grenades and psionics are my favorite part of this game.
lilyoswald: without actually increasing difficulty
Asimech: IMO, a lot of "bad feels" would be mitigated if regular weapon attacks only had a "hit chance" in edge cases and rest of the time positioning etc. would adjust the damage range/curve.
Scy_Anide: @lilyoswald Specifically, things like glancing and grazing. In Xcom hitting and missing is a binary state. There's no middleground.
MeadyOchre: Grenadiers were utterly OP in original XCOM 2 because their huge amount of pinpoint precise damage and ability to completely wreck cover trivialised basically every fight
Mr_Whyt: brief conventional ww3
hoktauri: Don't you DARE talk bad about Red Storm Rising. It's was my first Tom Clancy book, I love how corny it is now
GroutNASA: RSR was good
CapnRobert: or people miss an 80% 5 times in a row and dont grasp that you get streaks with randomness
GroutNASA: Iceland was awesome
Scy_Anide: If hit chance was calculated on a per-round basis, and balanced accordingly, it wouldn't be as punishing to miss
HesGotNoPants: tom Clancy is embarrassing to you cam?
lilyoswald: Personally, I am a believer that RNG is often used as a crutch in development without properly including game mechanics to mitigate it
Scy_Anide: But balancing that for the difficulty of the game is another layer of complexity for the devs
samb6678: @HesGotNoPants right?
BloodnBullets: shoot him in the butt
brainbosh: Kinda? But thats both how that works and not how that works?
drfox17: grenade?
NexVesica: There's lots of game mechanics to mitigate RNG, just not so much in the first mission when you're options are basically "shoot" or "grenade"
Scy_Anide: As it could easily overvalue weapons that fire multiple rounds, leaving sniper rifles in the dust
ProfBadger: I mean, Xcom is about RNG tho.
DreamyPants: Wouldn't the multiplicative effect go in the other direction?
ProfBadger: It goes both ways.
lilyoswald: MTG is actually incredibly well designed in how it uses RNG and something every would be game dev should play just so they can understand what wizards does with it
Scy_Anide: And I agree, RNG is a worthwhile mechanic that can be way overused as a crutch
acuilador: But that's only true if you're looking from mission one. If you have done 10 missions, your chance on #11 is still 99. That's the "Due"Statistics fallacy
ProfBadger: Sure, but sometimes you get land flood/screw
BlandSpice: @DreamyPants Multiplying less than one with less than one gets continuously close to zero
AbraPSI: am i here at the beginning?
DreamyPants: I just mean that the (0.99)^40 > 0.99 * 40
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Asimech: I don't know what it's called, but "cumulative odds" thing is still a thing: It shouldn't be confused with the "due a good roll" thing.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Selfie!
ProfBadger: Mission Photos!
Scy_Anide: I mean, that's just being the underdog
CapnRobert: for me id say battletech is the turn based rng gameplay I enjoy the most, they mitigate feel bad rng in a real cool way in my opinion where your firing multiple weapons at once and have multiple points on an enemy to hit potentially
mtvcdm: Yeah, roulette tables at casinos love to exploit that. They post numbers that have come up recently to get you to not pay attention to randomness.
Scy_Anide: You have to win almost all the time against an overwhelming force to not be crushed
mtvcdm: Why did we get a baseball card
Aenir798: ayyyyyyy
samb6678: ayyyy lmao
tenthtechpriest: why is he shooting the cameraman?
acuilador: @Asimech Yeah. The best way to avoid confusing "Due' With proper cumulative is to igroe rolls that have already been done.
AegeusEvander: they like to shoot through things
niccus: the decal options are top notch
Labjer: That's the face you make when you get startled by your insane squadmate firing a rifle during a group shot
mtvcdm: CHEESE
Rockario: It messes with my brain, because each mission is still 99%. Even if you look at it like "after [x] missions the odd look worse" that doesn't change the odds going into individual missions
Rhynerd: Why is somebody shooting?
samb6678: ra ra rasputin
Scy_Anide: That's...honestly why I love Suikoden V. You're the underdog but you continue pushing forward because of superior strategy, and a healthy amount of luck. You don't just win cuz deus ex machina god gave you the good runes.
Rourke9: that person on the left is not gonna be happy with this poster huh
ProfBadger: WOTC's photo booth is one of the best additions.
hoktauri: Firing a rifle in a group shot? Found the rakdos player
justwhatever_idk: Intense with Rifle
Rourke9: i love this
jonasjonIV: wow
starlitdiscord: smug intensifies
niccus: but what does this mean
Rhynerd: Smug, smug, smug, GUN
hoktauri: This is so 70s
RealGamerCow: Thanks, I hate it.
tenthtechpriest: now photoshop the guns into guitars
Gypsy_Supreme: so smug
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Jorge4hg: radical
lemmel: Amazing album cover
Jacobontherun1: This is the Gmod stuff right here
Bartlett96: all in the exact same pose lol
Katten_Rastyr: CirLaugh
Kramburger: Oh sweet, Gary's Mod
jonasjonIV: noir on an lcd
BlameBlair: lrrWOW
mtvcdm: Randomize!
Hvertor: Resist! Fight! Believe!
Roosevelt: We need an Abbey Road background
lilyoswald: Xcom needs to hire a graphics designer
Alephred: It's like they're all holding a ladder.
Jorge4hg: 70s budget
Freshly_Toasted: For the longest time I couldn't find a definition which captured the essence of "Art". I have found it here
justwhatever_idk: Check out the new Boy Band
Jacobontherun1: Where's gordon freeman?
Asimech: Look, if we can't go full "USSR propaganda" I don't know what Firaxis was doing.
LiveFaust: Can you Ginyu Force them?
mtvcdm: Pink and teal
Armstrong11139: This is the Monster Factory of stock photography
hoktauri: Can you make the back pulse?
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: Freedom fighters, terrorists or Pop idols?
samb6678: god cam
ayirbudd: all of the above
Jorge4hg: need more dog gif
sordcooper: oh god it looks like dihariah
justwhatever_idk: I love when my posters rotate
Scy_Anide: Their pants are not particularly flattering is all
GroutNASA: Meet the Beaters!
xantos69: YES CAM YES!
ghostvalv: that''s some fine glory right there Cam
Rockario: That angle looks like they're posing with guitars
Jorge4hg: this a cover album from a band
LiveFaust: They're good butts, Bront.
Jacobontherun1: sign me up
mtvcdm: What are we even doing.
ayirbudd: they look like they think their guns are guitars
godpigeon: chorus line?.. one.. singular sensa....
the_terror_that_flaps_: katesLurk this New Edition coverband is looking great
Chatty_Protagonist: Come check out our band at the local coffe shop
Freshly_Toasted: Glory to the resistance!
hoktauri: I look forward to their funk album
Juliamon: Glory to the (resi)Stance!
Gekyouryuu: Jinrui no eiko tame ni
JOZeldenrust: Like the diagonal in the composition...
Asimech: They look like a bunch of drunks put in a line by the police.
ProfBadger: That posters going up
lilyoswald: Oh, I love the propaganda stuff
Laserbeaks_Fury: "simulated wounds"
tuckamanian: butt shaming the soldiers
Jorge4hg: xcim n funk
Seagulyus: Asimech with guns?
LiveFaust: That angle looked more like they were playing air guitar.
justwhatever_idk: 4 Part Bass Harmony
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Asimech: @Seagulyus Your drunks don't have those?
ayirbudd: funk band with just four bass guitars would be intense
Jorge4hg: Xcom greatest Hits
LiveFaust: [Def Leppard joke here]
ArkhamArchivist: Shitting In A Bag is their fourth album
Seagulyus: Asimech I live in NY so most guns are banned :P
justwhatever_idk: Contrabass, Cello, Electric Bass, a Fish
samuraitiger19: DID NO ONE TAKE DAMAGE?!
hoktauri: the STACHE
Asimech: @Seagulyus I mean they're usually water guns with moonshine in them, but still.
samb6678: "what's this thing?
Freshly_Toasted: Sharpshooter <3
Seagulyus: Asimech thats upstate NY and eastern Long Island that do that :P
RealGamerCow: Reading the card explains the card. lrrBEEJ
Asimech: I really don't like the auto-assigned classes in these games. It feels like an unnecessary layer of chance and inflexibility.
Laserbeaks_Fury: eff with their robots
Seagulyus: RealGamerCow but reading the chat does NOT explain the chat
Rockario: "You wouldn't download a dollar..."
samb6678: "you wouldn't download money"
Dread_Pirate_Westley: You can control their robots.
sithenin: Steal robot enemies
niccus: is that like $1000
Laserbeaks_Fury: Grenadiers are experts at blowing up cover
Labjer: I mean I wouldn't.
WeedenProject: Hacking sectopods and taking temporary control of them is great in the endgame
ayirbudd: those bangs tho
brainbosh: Specialist is the class that has the most variation between it's two perk trees.
samb6678: @ayirbudd her bangs are her real superpower
lilyoswald: I love the sword
RealGamerCow: If that heavy person makes it to nickname, her nickname must be "bangs"
Maddrius: war sword!
VelvetFalcon: He studied the blade!
acuilador: Grenadier: Can't decide between KOBE and YEET. Why choose?
BloodnBullets: the double primary grenade is incredible, especially when you get acid grenades
JOZeldenrust: Rangers bring knives to gun fights.
Labjer: Ah yes, the sword, the weapon made obsolete by the pistol, ready for the future
chickenace11: is she a pokemon
sithenin: Ranger free attack on approach is my favorite for them
Lyinginbedmon: grenadiers can also chew away enemy armour, allowing early grade weapons to stay relevant into late game
niccus: sure people can yell 'kobe' or 'yeet' but you slam dunk a grenade *once*
Freshly_Toasted: This guy is an expert marksman, this guy can hack into their systems, this girl has a machine gun and her? ... she's got a sword
GroutNASA: Redneck Katana (tm)
HesGotNoPants: you get a sniper rifle, you get a granade launcher, you get a drone, all we have left is a sword
Rockario: In the far future, bayonets are a lost technology. But samurai never die! lrrBEEJ
lilyoswald: going from a rookie to a squadie is such a massive step
goz3rgozerian: is that jon stewart
tenthtechpriest: social links!
RebekahWSD: Is it good for them to bond?
AegeusEvander: poor Will, so expendable
Seagulyus: Freshly_Toasted hey man with how xcom accuracy works, the sword might be more dangerous
sithenin: Bonds are fun, you can gift actions
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Freshly_Toasted: @Seagulyus Maybe that's why the sword actually kicks ass now and then
WolfAmulet: !uptime
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samb6678: cycle your contents everyone
Seagulyus: Freshly_Toasted yarp. also, no reloads or ammo helps :P
ArcOfTheConclave: @RebekahWSD it gives buffs but it makes losses more crippling.
Seagulyus: unless oyu're breath of the wild : /
Freshly_Toasted: Exactly!
Laserbeaks_Fury: It's very Vasquez and Drake
samb6678: are we missing a cutscene?
RebekahWSD: Is it considered better for them to bond then, or worse, ArcOfTheConclave?
BloodnBullets: id love an expansion where you discover vahlens underground nightmare lab
Aenir798: @samb6678 No, it's just idle background chatter
samuraitiger19: @AegeusEvander Hey Will Wheaton isn't expen... (remebers what Geek and Sundry did to his Board Game show) Never mind...
Freshly_Toasted: Weapon durability to the point of instantly breaking is the game mechanic equivalent to a turd. Don't @ me
BloodnBullets: that woman was into some shit
JOZeldenrust: Bradford, Vahlen was a fuckin' psychopath. If I never see that woman again, it'll be too soon.
RebekahWSD: Oh no! I missed this weeks Bylaw and Order!
samb6678: @RebekahWSD i would think it is kinda risk reward idea, where there is a higher risk for danger, but there are benefits
samuraitiger19: @JOZeldenrust How so?
Seagulyus: RebekahWSD if they dont die its better. so it depends on your luck and ability
Alephred: @RebekahWSD It was actually cancelled this week.
samb6678: or more there is a larger loss when somthing goes bad
Aenir798: @RebekahWSD There wasn't one this week, because Serge and Ben were stuck in airport
RebekahWSD: not let soldiers get attached. Oh, was it cancelled?
RebekahWSD: Ah!
RebekahWSD: Lucky for me I guess! D:
BloodnBullets: @RebekahWSD it didnt happen this week, there was players who couldnt make it
BloodnBullets: they got held up at the airport i believe
justwhatever_idk: cammander to the research labs
samb6678: hnnnnnnng
JOZeldenrust: @samuraitiger19 Cam used to roleplay Vahlen as a psycho who enjoyed torturing her subjects and removing body parts. There's a bit of subtext in the game to justify it.
mahpete_: *Commander to the research labs*
Juliamon: It was Utah, so... who knows
samuraitiger19: @JOZeldenrust Oh right... how she.. extracts information from live prisoners of war
mahpete_: Commander to the research labs
Freshly_Toasted: Cammandur to th reesearch labs
samuraitiger19: Well I see that the computer is as annoying as it every was Bradford...
justwhatever_idk: commander to the research labs
JOZeldenrust: @samuraitiger19 Yeah, and how gleefully she announces the "necessary amputations" for the "volunteer" to be the first Mech.
xantos69: Hmm...if I was a commander...where should I go?
Fantusta: Cammander to the re-search labos
samuraitiger19: @JOZeldenrust Yeah she was a bit nuts wasn't she...
Aenir798: @RebekahWSD Flights were cancelled due to weather I think
SoldieroFortune: !uptime
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RebekahWSD: Ahhh
samuraitiger19: If their fight path went over Wisconsin I'm sorry it's proabaly our fault
Juliamon: Oh no, we're going back to Magical Diary?
TheChargingBadger: Commander to the research labs.
ElementalAlchemist: Apparently they're getting sponsored on the new one
ElementalAlchemist: The first one ... had some problems though
samuraitiger19: Bradford can't we shut that that computer up?
Juliamon: Yeah, hence my concern. But sponsored is sponsored I guess.
silenceaux: We can't even make Bradford shut up, why would he do anything about a computer? Kappa
ayirbudd: Commander to the research labs.
DoctorOfBeard: charmander to research labradors
samuraitiger19: @silenceaux Hey now Bradford is okay
silenceaux: ok
Aenir798: perfect timing
AbraPSI: 10/10
e_bloc: very nice Cameron :D
Katten_Rastyr: Classy cirLaugh
TheChargingBadger: Go to the research labs!
silenceaux: Incredible
Mivair: Beautiful
TheAinMAP: katesAir
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jclem_2: Whenever earth does get invaded by aliens all hail our commander Cam who will lead us through the darks times and back into the light
Katten_Rastyr: 7/10
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: Cammander to the Research labs
e_bloc: #highlights
TheAinMAP: Yes.
xantos69: just like me on my first date with the woman that became my wife.
AbraPSI: yes
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: YES
mtvcdm: Yep!
TheChargingBadger: YES
korvys: Yes
Aenir798: yes
Mivair: Yes.
GroutNASA: Um
amythist: it has indeed
withr: no mute on break
samuraitiger19: Yes
ayirbudd: oh hell yeah it has
Rhynerd: Yep
Mivair: Cameron the Graceful
ArcOfTheConclave: yup
GroutNASA: 😊
lost_tv01: please, please just go tp the labs... please
Rhynerd: Please move on.
wildpeaks: it's like Alex is there in spirit
Sharies: better out than in
chi7891: That was a Beej move
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Mivair: Cameron the Stylish, Graceful, Elegant
Bartlett96: you really can't plan that
Rhynerd: Oh no
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chi7891: I can’t hear Tygan
tranqgirl: anyone notice he has a massive scar on the back of his head?
Lyinginbedmon: This guy both removed the chip at the back of your head and pioneered the procedure by removing his own. We are damn lucky to be alive...
Laserbeaks_Fury: Yes, he had to remove his own chip
amythist: tranqgirl yup he even mentions in a conversation that removing the commanders implant was easier than removing his own
Mivair: Tygen is very good with a knife
Rhynerd: Sometimes the two faces even have conversations.
lost_tv01: mass effect; except you dont take important leader people into danger
Lyinginbedmon: Ethics, and Advent burgers
Maddrius: cool tech stuff
Rhynerd: And a flintlock pistol.
Zyme86: Modular weapons, aka we invented the Picatinny rail, taht has been around since the early 90s
ayirbudd: cool technology!
lost_tv01: I mean the experimental weapons are good; and you can keep them upto date with your current tech
Zephyr256k: The Axe is sweet, and the weird flintlock laser pistol is pretty good too
excessivetrumpets: that freezing grenade saves lives man
Lyinginbedmon: The freezing grenade and the axe are by far the most useful items I've found
Katten_Rastyr: Flintlock lets you be all cool like reaper :V
Rhynerd: The flintlock pistol is much better than the name suggests.
lost_tv01: @Lyinginbedmon you speak truth
BloodnBullets: id think it would be pretty hard to get different species tech to communicate
Zyme86: I'm curious does she have a cirl on the right side (like she had a repaired cleft pallet as a kid) or is that just me
Laserbeaks_Fury: damn, both coils are on the bottom level
Lyinginbedmon: The grenade lets you paralyse an area of enemies, including the boss aliens that get an action every time you take one.
Rockario: Better start posting on future-Indeed
aesir_blade: It's the section sign
Lyinginbedmon: The axe can be tossed as a free action with decent range and damage, and still be used in melee afterwards
Zephyr256k: early game engineers are the most useful mission rewards, then late game you have wayt oo many engineers
aesir_blade: Also the sub widget is on top of it so none of us can see it cearly
Lyinginbedmon: I've ended entire campaigns with the axe alone
Mr_sandmens: Is this iornman
wildpeaks: going for the bold decoration
GlennSeto: We are the civilized species.
RebekahWSD: Well. My.
DoctorOfBeard: it's OK because you are the good guys
the_pallid_mask: whose job is it to mount the dead aliens?
ANeMzero: Stuffing Sectoids feels like some kind of euphemism.
Zyme86: Hard to tell if they are german, they always sound like they are swearing Kappa
RealGamerCow: Was that the dude from Motorhead?
RealGamerCow: Fucking Lemmy?
the_pallid_mask: the best japan has to offer
mtvcdm: That flattop.
Asimech: I mean, "sectoid" - "sex toy-d"
the_pallid_mask: jsut cusotmize his name lol
silenceaux: I mean, you could MAKE that his name
Lyinginbedmon: Many of your soldiers in this game are "whoever volunteered"
ANeMzero: He is just shy
Zyme86: This is a review soldier stand at attention when I talke to you
drfox17: "I ain't no soldier"
BloodnBullets: you can customize his stance
xantos69: @cheer 50 to have him stand up straight change his "attitude" in the custom menu.
Juliamon: This guy is just some nerdy weeb who went too far
Saintnex: huh, american english
ayirbudd: @bloodnbullets not yet, i think they have to hit Sgt. for that
Saintnex: what a strange combination
Tiber727: I imagine this guy is super badass on the battlefield, but off the battlefield he's an awkward softie.
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Rhynerd: 2015 was the time of the previous XCOM
BloodnBullets: no there was "attitude" already available
Rhynerd: And a shotgun in case the enemy gets in.
brainbosh: Sectoid Confit
Rockario: Shower regularily to avoid "Con-feet"
silenceaux: The christmas lights there kinda throw me
kanimaras: lots of game with memorials these days.
Hvertor: The picture you took is in the bar! That's so good.
wicker_knight: bradford is bartender now?
Mivair: They look like cupcakes yeah
the_pallid_mask: donuts shaped like the ship?
Garry_Guyface: XCOM Cupcakes
Laserbeaks_Fury: COM-cakes
Zyme86: Central Baked them
Asimech: "Party muffins"
Mivair: Also Bradford is definitely the bartender @wicker_knight Or he has a sick twin
Rhynerd: Cupcakes!
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RealGamerCow: that poster sure is there!
RebekahWSD: The most beautiful people!
GroutNASA: KXCM radio
Estyl10_: hi
jonasjonIV: spikes. many spikes
lilyoswald: they blew up the statue to cover their shopping trip so birthday dude wouldn't get tipped off on the surprise party
tenthtechpriest: we're putting the war on pause so we can play dressup
silenceaux: Beautiful people, but not too beautiful to die
Malfegore_: Just came back. Still in legendary?
drfox17: yup, hemets gonna stop those railgun rounds
Katten_Rastyr: Pick up cupcakes, blow up a statue and kill some dudes. Sounds like the normal shopping list cirLaugh
Lyinginbedmon: Your troops are also inserted into ADVENT propaganda materials, so occasionally you have a soldier in the field taking cover behind their own wanted poster
Estyl10_: !uptime
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Garry_Guyface: The NERv center if you will
wicker_knight: the world has only one military
SquareDotCube: Face tattoos: Only a handful work. Anything else makes you look like a thug.
JOZeldenrust: This sweater isn't nearly as cool as the Enemy Unknown one.
SajuukSjet: is this older Chris Redfield?
RealGamerCow: Shoulder-knife. Weird flex, but okay
Lyinginbedmon: This is more of one of several resistance groups than a national military
Estyl10_: *clipped*
tuckamanian: your one dude is Keegan-Michael Key with a wig
Alephred: Now for the overworld. It bears some resemblance to the XCom board game.
DerPilsner: As a Kansas City Native, that animation lives in my heart forever.
Malfegore_: This still in legendary?
Garry_Guyface: Is Bradford just alternate universe Chris Redfield?
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Laserbeaks_Fury: Commander Inquisitor Pathfinder
samuraitiger19: I was REALLY put off by Bradford's VA change the first time I played this game I remeber
wicker_knight: or alt-universe Jim Raynor
the_pallid_mask: sir we found the duct tape!
mtvcdm: According to a map of Russia, we searched the town of Chumikan. Population 1,344.
Saintnex: oh thats new, thats interesting
ChaoticObserver: War of the Chosen added so many neat little things
Saintnex: I really need to get War of the Chosen... when I have money
mtvcdm: I love matching a game map to the actual world map.
Estyl10_: the distant future of 2015
wildpeaks: oh my, project pitchfork, that's a name i haven't heard for a while
ulexarX: But what about the Futurama parody
wicker_knight: oooooofa
mtvcdm: In The Year 2525 is baaaaaaaad
tenthtechpriest: OOF
BrindleBoar: in the far-off future of the year 1999, humanity has conquered the stars...
mtvcdm: Julie is correct
Zyme86: cold as ice
Estyl10_: ouch
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the_pallid_mask: have to find the right polar bear
Makimachine: There was a free update a few months back as well for this.
ArmadilloAL: Why were you listening to it, or why did presumably-competent bands cover it?
Batyn: I ilke it
Chantzzzzz: bout 20 degrees cooler in that shade
KingofFable: so we just have to hunt people to do a job
Rockario: Turned out, it's about how humanity will advance so far from God's vision he'll come by in 10,000 years and be so grossed out he starts everything over
drfox17: Julie's like some kind of comedy sleeper agent. I'm never anticipating it, and then she slam dunks it
KingofFable: instead of people hunting for your job
GlennSeto: Julie knows how to deploy a unexpected own.
drfox17: stops psionics
Zyme86: Rush team MVP, I mean Mimic Beacon
Rhynerd: And stunning groups is good.
drfox17: with bad aim and no psi, sectoids become target practice
Lyinginbedmon: @KingofFable Well they can put the word out that they'd love to work for us, but if they make it too public they'll get disappeared, so we have to do some leg work
amythist: will breka mind control, not kill zombies
Laserbeaks_Fury: The Guz!
hoktauri: helmets!
Garry_Guyface: [Safety Dance]
the_pallid_mask: top hat!
phorrestgaze: I can dig it
the_pallid_mask: dapper sqaud!
Dread_Pirate_Westley: I can dig it!
KingofFable: @Lyinginbedmon i mean that sounds like a good deal for the ones getting hired.
Seagulyus: we will playing Fashion-coms now ladies and gentlemen!
Chantzzzzz: why??
Katten_Rastyr: Aliens get in the blaggole! cirREE
Estyl10_: it's basically just mad max
TheMerricat: no wonder your team cant aim
Saintnex: good ol' space bikers
samuraitiger19: OMG It's Grumm from Power Rangers SPD!!
Zyme86: Pikelhaub, I mean why, even the germans went this is stupid give us the stahlhelm
Estyl10_: haha
Lyinginbedmon: I did a campaign with my patrons and let them design their own soldier-selves. Boy was that a mistake.
Tiber727: Assassin's Creed, Mad Max, or Halo?
silenceaux: Head? Banned.
tenthtechpriest: I like the idea of an xcom force that's forced to steal advent helmets
ChaoticObserver: Helmets that completely block their vision
ayirbudd: make each squad look like different genre bands lol
Labjer: Modding in better hats is priority #1 in this game
Zephyr256k: I modded my game so I could make all my soldiers into ODSTs, it was great
ArcOfTheConclave: we aren't space pirates
BrindleBoar: infinite ammo is earned, not gifted
TheMerricat: jayne!!!
hoktauri: That helmet will work real well against a 5mm railgun round
TraceBullet: my vision is augmented
samuraitiger19: Is game music distored for anyone else?
ProfBadger: It's a camera to his gun barrel.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Toe to Tip, that's just like Garrus
Maddrius: pipes in the squad vision
the_pallid_mask: yes
GlennSeto: XD
TheMerricat: zangief
ProfBadger: OKay, that guy's scary.
GlennSeto: Excellent.
Maddrius: yes
Estyl10_: that guy does not look japanese
insane_42: prefect
Asimech: Friendly Muttonchops stop bullets, everybody knows that.
BlameBlair: If you have a Canadian, they need to wear the hockey mask xD
tenthtechpriest: we don't have enough helmets so you'll have to wait rookie
ProfBadger: would you tell him otherwise?
Fruan: Tattoos are a sometimes food
wicker_knight: they are our perfect children and we must throw them to the meatgrinder
NotCainNorAbel: you earn tattoos.
drfox17: not gonna stop railgun rounds, so why bother? :D
SquareDotCube: With another rank-up that buzzcut becomes a pompidou
Estyl10_: if you have an Australian, they need a LOT of tatoos
KingofFable: we are going to destroy the alien wi-fi
Dread_Pirate_Westley: Welcome to the sewer tileset.
Asimech: BTW, "Lemmys" are actually called "friendly muttonchops".
lilyoswald: The aliens have really bad wifi
Freshly_Toasted: XCOM Sounds sweet
wicker_knight: @lilyoswald Psi-fi
drfox17: the legacy ops soundtrack option turns XCOM into an 80s action movie staring bradford
Estyl10_: fog of war is a bitch
ProfBadger: wait, does Cam know about the TLE soundtrack changes?
drfox17: that means somethings there
lilyoswald: @wicker_knight ohh that's good
e_bloc: ah the ol' convenient hole
drfox17: you ready for salt, wait for shooting through walls!
e_bloc: I love Cameron because he's never bitter :D <3
ProfBadger: go to options, cam.
drfox17: not a mod, it's in the game
HesGotNoPants: a little PJSalt cam
drfox17: the latest update
ayirbudd: what does the option change?
JOZeldenrust: The answer to any question of the form "there is an X MOD" is "yes" by this point.
drfox17: it just changes the soundtrack
ProfBadger: It's not a mod. It's a remix of the original Xcom tracks.
drfox17: they made songs based on the original ufo defense
drfox17: and they are raaaad
drfox17: they're in the game
BrindleBoar: that got his attention
lilyoswald: holy crap
Lyinginbedmon: Cam is about to nut
drfox17: get reaaaady
lilyoswald: I didn't know this
jonasjonIV: sweet
ProfBadger: ayaaas
Rhynerd: Holy moly
Saintnex: I think we turned down the music?
Dread_Pirate_Westley: It's 2 turns on lower difficulty, but I'm not masochist enough to play Ledengary, so I don't know.
drfox17: i think it kicks in for combat
korvys: Oh, unrelated, but Cameron, did you know Ben Frost composed the Rainbox 6 Seige soundtrack?
lilyoswald: oh this music
lilyoswald: that's the gooood stuff
Phailhammer: I really want some sort of series that is at least half Cam becoming increasingly exasperated with Bradford. :D
drfox17: the mission complete song starts with a sick guitar riff
GroutNASA: Yeah. Mmm. Like that.
GlennSeto: Got shanked by the Predator?
Laserbeaks_Fury: could probably pistol the relay
HesGotNoPants: your bladder meter maxed out and soldier 4 had to pee
Laserbeaks_Fury: THOOMP
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amythist: only with explosives
lilyoswald: darn
the_pallid_mask: rookie!
Kaorti: Insufficient stick!
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: the other duck is filling out a portion of a pillow
tuckamanian: eye exam needed
GlennSeto: This seems problematic.
rycat: Ahh, Xcom
lilyoswald: noice
korvys: Stuck
GroutNASA: Mcabain
AbraPSI: 80% Miss, 50% Hit
the_pallid_mask: okamoto earning his pay
HesGotNoPants: ok quote cam on that stick thing plz
AbraPSI: Xcom
GlennSeto: Nakatomi Plaza?
phorrestgaze: 80% name pronunciation is goof in this game
lilyoswald: I feel like the second mission is so much easier than the first
GroutNASA: That's the best hip-check
tuckamanian: woo
Laserbeaks_Fury: Boi
electroswagnetism: BOI
KingofFable: the alien will use mind crush
GlennSeto: Kratos?
drfox17: laving a concealed ranger helps, because then you can scout enemy positions
GroutNASA: Advent isn't just a conquering army of death, they misgender us?!
electroswagnetism: Oh hey it's King James
drfox17: yessss
GlennSeto: @GroutNASA In the 2030s, no less.
Freshly_Toasted: 5 for 1
Asimech: I hate when I'm haemorrhaging turns. So messy.
lilyoswald: buys time. Flash bang so good
drfox17: caution: sectoid will now take shots
Laserbeaks_Fury: Rookies get Cookies
Asimech: And I'm never certain if it's okay to use a regular plaster or if I need one of those silver ones.
GlennSeto: " it from behind?"
GrandLlamaQ: Rookies get cookies.
GroutNASA: @GlennSeto I look forward to the "what gender am I now, bitch!" sound pack
GrandLlamaQ: Rookies who don't play hooky go take a looky and if they are brave they get cookies.
lilyoswald: yeeessssss
lilyoswald: Good plays cam
Garry_Guyface: Dab on the alien graves
Bladinus: benginDab
wildpeaks: what they lack in experience, they compensate in enthusiasm (and being bullet magnets)
jonasjonIV: luck
Chatty_Protagonist: god level rookie
GroutNASA: !luck
silenceaux: I wish the game would tell you what the approx odds are when they shoot at you
Laserbeaks_Fury: man, the free pistol shots would be so good on this mission
wildpeaks: uhh
lilyoswald: ugh
Tantusar: WAT
mtvcdm: wat
wildpeaks: well fudgesticles
WeiseDrachenJaeger: Hey all! What difficulty are we on?
TheAinMAP: katesWat
Juliamon: RNG giveth, RNG taketh
Bladinus: I think the RNG tends to feel bad in this game... missing a 85% chance to hit never feels good.
ArcOfTheConclave: sharpshooters going "It's High Noon" is great.
gsyhiap: lrrSACK
Zyme86: Thanks Yogi berra
GlennSeto: That doesn't make any sense.
Asimech: I'm reminded of the Awkward Zombie comic about odds.
jonasjonIV: sacrificed rookie blood for kill
korvys: Question: Do you think it would be better or worse if your troopers had higher accuracy, but a wider damage spread?
CrazymattCaptain: rush early then slow down
Laserbeaks_Fury: So does this game use tiles, or does it just have a massive map it randomly picks engagement areas from?
GroutNASA: "I knew the record would stand until it was broken."
Asimech: I could probably use my brain for something more practical than remembering webcomic strips, but ehh.
Lyinginbedmon: @Laserbeaks_Fury Tiles
Seagulyus: korvys more accuracy wider spread is better
ProfBadger: packets, really.
Seagulyus: because a missed shot is 0
drfox17: oh i am so excited for cam to win tthis mission
wildpeaks: neat, didn't know that comic strip :)
korvys: @Seagulyus Ok, what if that spread was only down? Like, more likely to hit, but more likely to do 1 damage
lilyoswald: the map structure, as I understand it, are premade maps designed from tiles to make it easier to make a ton of different maps
Seagulyus: korvys have to look at them statistically to tell you which is better
Seagulyus: there is a system that mixes them - the glancing blow system
wildpeaks: and difficulty from not knowing all informations about enemies
aussie_rob_w: Xcom Talking Simulator!
Seagulyus: a higher chance to hit, but a certain % deals less damage
korvys: @Seagulyus I don't mean better mathmatically, but better subjectively, for play feel.
Aenir798: well XCOM also does the "bigger health bars" thing
Seagulyus: korvys better mathematically is better subjectively
Kramburger: The thing that bugged me about this game is that I felt that after a point ALL of the missions had a timed component and I enjoyed the ability to take my time
brainbosh: This adds difficulty with random numbers AND in Timers
Seagulyus: because less misses feels better
drfox17: oh wow
Rourke9: battletech does that too, yea
TheMerricat: in old xcom you at least weren't fighting the tomer eveytime.
drfox17: that'll be a good game
drfox17: and lots of stats
Zyme86: battletech is one of 2018's game of the year
korvys: @Seagulyus Ok, so if you hit more, but mathmatically did worse, would that still feel better? How much worse could you do and still feel better?
CapnRobert: I love battletech
Zyme86: Stonking good game
lilyoswald: another big thing is that a soldier dying in Xcom UFO defense is small - you can hire 3 soldiers for every alien to kill
Seagulyus: korvys it depends on the numbers. if you hit 50% at 3 damage each
CapnRobert: but also the roguetech full conversion for battletech is amazing, I have been playing to much of it lol
CoyoteSans: The big problem is the devs want players to find themselves in situations where they will have to mkae risky RNG rolls and lose.
Seagulyus: then 40% to deal 2, 30% to deal 1 feels better
CoyoteSans: So they devised mechanics to try and "force" players into those risky situations.
GroutNASA: That's the best explanation I've ever heard of "That's XCOM, Baby"
Zyme86: LRM span is evil, SRM spam is stupid powerful
aussie_rob_w: It's not an XCOM thing specifically, but hot damn watching Cam play this game is hitting the nostalgia button in my brain REAL hard.
Seagulyus: if you are 75% to deal 10 one one and 80% to deal 8 / 10% to deal 3 that feels great
TheMerricat: did they ever losen up and let players mod 2?
Laserbeaks_Fury: well at least they triggers on thier turn
SquareDotCube: also if you run out of ammo you can just melee opponents into scrap. Also it's one of those games where you can just crush a tank with your foot and it's a recommended tactic
drfox17: sniper time!
KinoGami: so when do we install the mario and rabbids mod? KappaHD
Freshly_Toasted: Shoot through 2 walls and still hit
HesGotNoPants: surprise chain gun
korvys: Still got some blood left in his feet
Asimech: My problem with e.g. the time limit thing is that it feels very forceful: You should be enticing players to do risks, not shove them into doing them.
CapnRobert: @zyme86 ever played roguetech? IATM spam is also evil
drfox17: rushem
CoyoteSans: Bloodborne is also a game where the devs want you to play aggressively, but there's no random element to punish the player for not getting the right hidden number.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Pistol the sectoid with the sniper seems good
Seagulyus: but 60% to deal 6 versus 50% to deal 3 / 20% to deal 1 doesn't feel much different. the difference is how wide the gaps are
aussie_rob_w: A Swiftly Tilting Cameron nostalgia. I think my sub-character died very quickly lrrAWESOME
mercano82: You know, Mario v Rabbids would be an interesting follow up to this. Same genre, similar gameplay, but some very different design decisions.
Dread_Pirate_Westley: The sectoid is probably the least threatening.
drfox17: they did not overwatch
Asimech: And the Firaxis approach with e.g. low group limits and movement discourage risk taking a lot.
Laserbeaks_Fury: yeah the pistol is 2-3 at tthis point
MacSquizzy: Can sniper take cover behind the back door?
Freshly_Toasted: @CoyoteSans Yes! because, while inherently risky the player gains benefits from a successful offensive strategy that's not integral into success but is tempting enough that it's usually a clear choice
SquareDotCube: The pistol's great for fininshing a bunch of Advent troops though
ArcOfTheConclave: @CoyoteSans Bloodbourne has mechanics that reward agression as opposed to punishing passivity.
ProfBadger: you make the play, and the RNG is RNG. Missing that shot is a 'what can you do'
Laserbeaks_Fury: Blowing up the wall will give you flanking shots on both the grunts
drfox17: damage output tends to exceed defense, so drawing out an engagement is usually bad
drfox17: move up and grenade
CoyoteSans: Yeah, Firaxis want you to take risks, and put in mechanics to enforce that, but don't really give you mechanics to roll good to counteract that until late in the game.
drfox17: ?
CoyoteSans: So campaigns become a question of "were you lucky in the early game? Good you win, otherwise, lol restart."
SquareDotCube: oh right, another great thing about Battletech: both sides don't move all at once. It's based on speed and tonnage and it's possible to delay opponents through a knockdown
Phothrism: 100% glockening
GroutNASA: That animation tho: "Hey guys! Rebel here! Right over here!"
drfox17: ooof
CoyoteSans: It's the reason I ultimately became disgusted with trying to play the hardest difficulties on newer Fire Emblem games.
Freshly_Toasted: Feelsbadman
Rhynerd: That bullet looked like it went for the crotch despite the fact the gun was aimed for the face
phorrestgaze: oof
Phothrism: oof
Asimech: @GroutNASA Alt: "Guys, look at this a-hole! Ran right in front of me!"
CoyoteSans: Maps essentially become puzzles where even if you have the correct solution, rolling the dice wrong means you still lose.
jonasjonIV: not dead
the_pallid_mask: pistol!
drfox17: waaait for the guitar riff!
amythist: didn't die, but may as well have with how long he will be in infirmary
drfox17: theeeere it is!
silenceaux: "low cover"
GroutNASA: @Asimech "What nerve!"
Lyinginbedmon: This soundtrack slaps
Phothrism: wow put him on buckshot
Asimech: @GroutNASA "Uh, buddy you might wanna-" *BLAM* "-Oh, ffs."
Zyme86: At least everyone came home
Znazl: SourPls
togashinaruta: Has there ever been a crapshot with Cam as the Speaker?
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CommandoJE: This music is so cool
drfox17: the "legacy ops" campaign is basically an 80s sci-fi action movie starring John "central" bradford
Lyinginbedmon: ALWAYS go for Shredder
wildpeaks: Adam would say "banger alert"
SuperSugarSloth: Ian is hip with the kids, yo
ProfBadger: I mean, the plan worked basically perfectly. In most other instances, the sectoid mind controls someone or hurts more.
drfox17: shredder is good
Saintnex: 33 days out, that hurts us a lot
HesGotNoPants: so I heard use "slap" all the time
jadeworrior: shredder is kind of an auto pick
Lyinginbedmon: Shredder lets you reduce the armour of big enemies that you really need to focus down
SquareDotCube: Shredder rips apart MEC armor
Freshly_Toasted: Shredder can save your team, blast padding saves the unit
ulexarX: When you're wounded while raving
TreeVor84: Shredder all the way
Aenir798: Killing enemies is way more important than surviving hits.
oyleslyck: Shredder is pretty much the pick
GroutNASA: Not disks, but globes
Labjer: Beware the ORBS
cosarprime: Armor is still really hard. Later one you might want to go back and get padding, but the cost to damage make shredder too good.
Dread_Pirate_Westley: Both are really useful. I am always so happy to see either one buyable with AP.
togashinaruta: Kathleen's been using "Slaps" a lot on her music stream <shrug> I honestly don't understand it as term, other than it suggests drumming terms to me
CoyoteSans: Intercept the club.
Phothrism: and all our lighting engineers are dead
GroutNASA: {please enjoy my awesome voice, Commander}
Rhynerd: Enemies will gain armor more often than taking one less damage will matter, from what I know.
chi7891: Can’t hear him
Freshly_Toasted: Isn't this that film trailer guy?
Rhynerd: Yes.
tuckamanian: optimus prime?
ielzee: optimus?
silenceaux: Honestly 'slaps' makes me think of really enthusiastic seals
chi7891: Turn up the epic voice guy
Laserbeaks_Fury: yeah this is Jon Bailey
Asimech: @togashinaruta I would imagine a "thigh slapper": Slapping against your thighs to the beat.
GroutNASA: Optimus!!!! </labeuf>
CommandoJE: You might want to consider making the medbay to aid your troops now that you have an engineer
wildpeaks: *audible gasp*
Garry_Guyface: Has anyone translated these?
Rockario: I like to think this guy heard you were back and rearranged his whole video-call setup back to the way it was
Robot_Bones: yes
Rhynerd: And there’s a hidden file where he offers to personally ride the commander into valhalla.
jadeworrior: Commander Roll out!
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: sounds like the movie VAyeah
drfox17: it's the honest trailer guy
Phothrism: ok will do optimus
Gekyouryuu: no. Epic Voice guy from Honest Trailers
ProfBadger: Cullen
CranstonSnord: cullen
drfox17: it's not peter cllen
Gekyouryuu: you're thinking Peter Cullen but it isn't him
Lyinginbedmon: Jon Bailey
tuckamanian: but could have fooled me
rembe0: get him to say "put the cube in my chest"
Lyinginbedmon: Who HAS done some Prime
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hawkfalcon8: hullo Cam, Cory, and, chat
drfox17: dooooooom tracker
tenthtechpriest: no but he DOES do optimus prime in certain recent iterations of the cartoon
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Aenir798: The campaign is basically just a larger version of that mission; blow up little things to slow down big thing until you can blow up big thing.
cosarprime: Bio's should be in your quaters?
staticdisplay: Hello everyone
GroutNASA: Optimus Prime vs Amazon Prime: fight
the_pallid_mask: do we have the budget for shovels?
Rhinoceritis: I never understood how the units are multinational in xcom2. I understand that was a big part in the earlier games, but hadn't the aliens abolished all nations and taken over the world
Spacecarl: Well Cori with how old the soldiers are by the date...
BrindleBoar: PhDs get shovels, grad students get picks
CoyoteSans: I really haven't play this game nearly as far as I should, given I bought it at launch.
CoyoteSans: In Xcom1, after a certain point, you can basically "lock down" the aliens progression for as long as you want.
drfox17: @Rhinoceritis People wearing the old flags, as badges of honor
CoyoteSans: Is such a thing possible in the Endgame stages for this game, or is there effective a long but hard time limit?
the_pallid_mask: find the boxes of ramen to lure in the grad students
cosarprime: With the expansion it's possible to continually lock it down.
GroutNASA: Ah, the Pentium 47
Phothrism: the "chip"
Dread_Pirate_Westley: It can be, depending on if you can unlike the Sabotage Resistance cell order.
drfox17: "we yanked this out of your head!"
Gekyouryuu: Cam, would you say it's accurate to describe this game as the long form equivalent of playing a control deck in MtG? just trying to stall the opponent for as long as possible until you get to your wincon?
GroutNASA: Engrams, man.
CoyoteSans: Shame, can't afford WotC. Ah well.
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Grimmig_Dunkel: @loadingreadyrun I left my La Fin Du Monde in the freezer for two and a half hours and now it's a bit slushy what do i do?
drfox17: I honestly think Advent is the one playing control
CoyoteSans: The problem is in these games, the aliens have Infinite Resources.
hawkfalcon8: bye chat, cory, the the amazing pen spinning Cam!
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ArcOfTheConclave: you're playing tempo
lost_tv01: sorta like playing against a commander deck when you know their win condition, and you spend a lot of your time stopping them crushing you
Rabbt300: So both Xcom2 and Magic Control decks are playing the boxing "rope-a-dope" strategy?
drfox17: it's +1 doamage
Laserbeaks_Fury: does that carry over to mag weapons?
Dread_Pirate_Westley: It lets you delay mag weapons.
silenceaux: I mean, we just saw a scenario where +1 Damage would have made a big difference with that Sectoid surviving two overwatch attacks.
drfox17: I... don't think so? I think mag weapons have their own version
Laserbeaks_Fury: okay, I see
LonelyTex: hello drs lrr
cosarprime: The aliens feel more like combo?
the_pallid_mask: the one below the upper right?
Dread_Pirate_Westley: There's other places to excavate.
drfox17: engineers! we... sometimes just get out saws and hammers and break stuff
Laserbeaks_Fury: They saw Mag Weapons being too vital and added some intermediate steps to offer more meaningul choices
amythist: don't need an engineer to build just makes it faster
LiveFaust: @grimmig_dunkel ooh, I don't know. That's among my favorite beers, though. Personal experience with other beers says allowing it to thaw results in overflowing container.
OldsCool: theres alot of realy nice balencing and tweeks in WotC
the_pallid_mask: now to kidnap more engineers...
drfox17: offer them pizza! we'll do anything for pizza....
OldsCool: hi Riker
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silenceaux: See, there's a few underlying assumptions with "the enemy is food" that need to be addressed
wildpeaks: we found our interior decorator
Papperslappen: Does Bradford use mascara?
Lyinginbedmon: War of the Chosen is heavily voiced by Next Generation actors
squishua1: wow, 20 years ago, those glasses(that I did wear) were the cheapest in the shop
Papperslappen: he has really nice lashes
Freshly_Toasted: I feel like i've seen this man 1,000 times
viridimayai: Tell me he has an agent known as Chuck Testa
Rhynerd: The only way to get friends with the Reapers is to have a trophy wall.
SajuukSjet: Old Chris Redfield again :D
mtvcdm: I too want to put Reaper on Overwatch. ....wait
lilyoswald: i've never been able to get the templars to be really useful
OldsCool: Reapers and Templars get sooo busted
lilyoswald: but both of the others are great
viridimayai: Wait, isthis War of the Chosen DLC?
ChaoticObserver: @viridimayai Yes it is
OldsCool: Skirmishers start out great but get a bit meh late game
Zyme86: Incomming TNG bridge crew
Dread_Pirate_Westley: The Reapers, who have Commander Riker and Counselor Troi, the Skirmishers who have Lieutenant Worf, and the Templars, who have Q.
ArcOfTheConclave: the templars don't have as much focus as the other 2 because a problem with VAs IIRC.
drfox17: skirmishers also have tasha yar
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BrindleBoar: the music tho
Rhinoceritis: oh that xcom1 music
Makimachine: Lieutenant, wasn't he a commander by the end of DS9? :P
drfox17: oooh soundtrack, you're so good
Lyinginbedmon: I got a Scottish Templar for my last run, we called him the Greg the Scottish Jedi
AgentMagicMaster: this music is hot fire
OldsCool: the reworked soundtrack is great
amythist: forgot the most importnat part though, the Templars are led by Q
GlennSeto: Camera pans over to the synth rock band playing on deck.
Znazl: SourPls
Paranundrox: oh man, Cam playing Xcom takes me way back
Rockario: I hate to split hairs, but "Skirmisher" doesn't sound like the name to give tanks
CommandoJE: The cool think about these missions is they give you some early intel which is really hard to get otherwise
Rhynerd: If only you have more sharpshooters for this part
Kaorti: Music: much improved
Paranundrox: I'm pretty sure I first subbed during an XCam stream like.. 3.5 years ago?
drfox17: reapers
Makimachine: Reapers
Paranundrox: almost exactly 3.5 years ago, in fact
CoyoteSans: Johnathan Frakes playing his best role: himself, in everything.
Rhinoceritis: lets hire everyone from star trek
SuperSugarSloth: katesS
Paranundrox: what a nice birthday present!
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OldsCool: Denise crosby is the Skirmisher leader
Batyn: TNG Part 3, Gargolyes Part 2
cotillion1850: Man this sound track
GlennSeto: The cast probably took it as an excuse to get together for a few nights drinking again.
OldsCool: romour was they where trying to get Spiner for the Templar feild unit but he wasent available so the Templars role was scaled back
Zyme86: Fraxis is currently in Maryland
Zyme86: east coast
drfox17: next time you complete a mission, listen for the guitar slide right as the next soundtrack ticks over
wildpeaks: suddendly, Fallout 76
Spacecarl: Near Baltimore.
CoyoteSans: the zombie mechanic always seemed like the biggest turnoff for me on this expansion
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RassilonDND: just in time for this gem :)
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Dix: Oh hi Marina Sirtis?
Chatty_Protagonist: She was NOT holding that gun right
Asimech: I mean, if you're making soup you do use the head to add flavour.
drfox17: Queen Bee for DC
GlennSeto: Demona? Yeah!
Asimech: Maybe ET heads need to be cooked a bit first?
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BrindleBoar: also Frakes was the voice of Xanatos
Chatty_Protagonist: Explosive expert way shouldering the heavy gun...
Aziraphalesshop: Gargoyles was also a ton of TNG people
Dix: When you've been pigeonholed into a particular 'look' or character on a scifi show.. VO is a good way to go
orellien2773: From a Reddit AMA by the War of the Chosen devs: "It's a total coincidence that so many actors from my single favorite show of all time showed up as voice talent in War of the Chosen." (
phorrestgaze: born edgelord
drfox17: they've got a detection radius of like 1
CoyoteSans: I imagine Bradford's going to be hitting the drink especially hard after this mission.
drfox17: stealthed units:will not shoot unless revealed
Znazl: rooWut
Freshly_Toasted: Shoot them in the alien taint!
OldsCool: no greneades
OldsCool: you can chain kill them
VoidByAnyOtherName: but what about the alien grundle?
CoyoteSans: Kinda want a mod that turns their models into the Ghost People from New Vegas: Dead Money.
Rhinoceritis: surived the apocalyplse, infinite in number, they're roaches
Phailhammer: Isn't that a Draugunov, not a Vector? lrrBEEJ
jclem_2: Yeah ranger with bladestorm is practically immune
amythist: chaining shots is just a Lost thing
Phailhammer: CoyoteSans: Thanks, I hate it.
drfox17: everyone can chain shots on them, as long as they're kills
kynelwynn: 100% chance is never 100% in these games.
Laserbeaks_Fury: isn't that any kills on the fallen
JOZeldenrust: Anyone can chain shots, but only against zombies
OldsCool: you can chain shots on the zombies with all units as long as you kill
Laserbeaks_Fury: *lost
Dix: Nice
SajuukSjet: powerful magic, that
amythist: just gets annoying when you have swarms you just have to cut through round after round
Paranundrox: that's a really neat mechanic
Paranundrox: the way it incentives a completely different playstyle
OldsCool: also the lost are actually Neutral and will go for the Advent forces .... if you modded the game to make it play as intended
Rhinoceritis: wait they don't attack advent in vanilla?
Seagulyus: OldsCool they are glitched and wont?
Lyinginbedmon: I've had them complete missions for me occasionally
mtvcdm: Whump
aquinas_0: ah, back here again
lost_tv01: snipers are weirdly amazing on these maps; because their pistols don't need to reload
OldsCool: @Seagulyus like i said if you modded it to fix the bug
lilyoswald: if I recall, it is a 2/3 chance they will act against you if given the option between you and advent
CoyoteSans: I can't imagine loading up the game for the first time with all DLCs active would be a fun time.
niccus: now i'm imagining mario but with 99% chance to succeed on each jump
lost_tv01: you can play this game without the additional content active, lowers the mechanics
TraceBullet: Mario + Rabbids is a great intro to this style of game
Dread_Pirate_Westley: I find it frustrating when you're still in concealment and can see Lost and Advent that should be able to see each other, but neither activates.
Dix: I would be absolutely overwhelmed with what's happened between when I stopped and now in WoW
Laserbeaks_Fury: WoW is good at keeping players up to date, you don't need to level up as much any more
corpocracy: It's like Magic
Rhinoceritis: I liked the small scale stuff in WOW, but I had abosolutely no patients for guilds
randomino5: they're still making expansions for eq1
OldsCool: so basicly the problem with getting into magic :)
Taveena: WoW is interesting because it also deliberately tries to simplify things when it gets overwhelming. Other MMOs have been moving in that direction, too - FFXIV, for example.
ayirbudd: dix its actually super simple now. its a little dissapointing
lost_tv01: vintage; NOPE
Tiber727: How many keywords is MTG up to now?
OldsCool: not even handed a deck it would be being asked to build your own vintage deck
LiveFaust: Wot's horsemanship, precious?
Seagulyus: OldsCool about 25 or 26 thousand?
DaSunao: Vintage Doomsday
Papperslappen: I just thought of how much more horrifying zombies would be if the zombification was a gradual change and someone could recover from being a zombie.
BlameBlair: I just did that to a friend. Imediatly had him drafting cube. He did surprisingly well.
corpocracy: Exactly. The proxy-Highlander event that you guys did was a good example of that
Seagulyus: Tiber727 about 200 - 300 I think
lost_tv01: @OldsCool ... also no thank you
korvys: So is this soundtrack the original, or like, inspired by the original, cause this track sounds very modern synthwave
Rhinoceritis: I remember being kind of shocked to see people playing that. I played it in 1998, I just assumed people would be over it by now
Chatty_Protagonist: 133 keyword abilities.
Chatty_Protagonist: in MtG
Seagulyus: Chatty_Protagonist wow that small?
mtvcdm: 133?
silenceaux: And if you hit a tutor card
Asimech: Or getting into MtG in an official draft environment with time limits for picking cards. I bounced hard after doing that through MTGO.
Fruan: And half of them were in Rusian
corpocracy: Yeah, that deck had waaaaay too many options
Chatty_Protagonist: @Seagulyus According to the wiki
RebekahWSD: I have never played Magic the Gathering. It's fascinating to watch with no understanding
Dix: Same thing can happen even if you get handed a Goblins deck. They have MANY intricate combos with Goblin Matron and tutoring up zombies and lackey hits and yeah its a lot
BlameBlair: When I brought up the storm mechanic, I believe he told me to "Go f*** yourself".
OldsCool: tbh even getting a payer into standard towards the end of a rotation would be super overwelming
silenceaux: One bunch of clumpy boys
emrafool: i cast humberbumber, it's a 4/6 with tranfompaline and when it dies you shuffle you hand into your hand and attack speed go
Chatty_Protagonist: I think their's categorical things going on though. Evasion might me separate in the rules.
Juliamon: Seagulyus they actively attempt to reuse them when possible, AND avoid using them on cards where it's not a main mechanic of the set, specifically to avoid confusion
drfox17: there is a card power which makes every hit on the lost an instant kill. it makes pistol snipers into mcree
amythist: fire bad if you stop in it
Seagulyus: Juliamon you still would think there would be more
amythist: yeah drfox17 pistol snipers are great vs lost
Juliamon: It also may not be counting reactive abilities that aren't keywords in themselves
techguy4: What difficulty?
Rhinoceritis: micheal dorn
v_nome: That man looks like a Destiny.
silenceaux: Vox Tala is kind of a pricy dish are you sure you want enough for ten people
Laserbeaks_Fury: GOLIATH ONLINE
ArcOfTheConclave: what does Vox Tala For Ten mean?
Alephred: The real Bat'Leth was the friendships we forged along the way.
drfox17: "Get Over Here"
Lyinginbedmon: @ArcOfTheConclave It is, unfortunately, gibberish
Labjer: As an aside, MAN I hate Batleths
Lyinginbedmon: They literally structured the language to sound cool, not mean anything
drfox17: there she is denise crosby
MrGibberish: did someone say Gibberish? :D
OldsCool: i miss wing comander
SuitablyEpic: he looks like a titan guardian in that armor
drfox17: skirmashers: they can shoot twice
CoyoteSans: Ole.
MintChocDoublin: is this unlocked by dlc or difficulty?
drfox17: DLC
techguy4: What difficulty?
drfox17: Legend
B1ndas: classic cam\
amythist: MintChocDoublin the factions were added in the War for the Chosen DLC
TotallyDefiant: xcom 2 or TNG reunion
niccus: oh, no, sc's rng on uphill/covered units were bullshit
MintChocDoublin: thanks @amythist
SajuukSjet: :D
korvys: On a 4 player map, RNG in starting position is the only one I can think of
Labjer: Phantom Doctrine did that. It was alright
Tiber727: @Seagulyus I was thinking it would be more too. Mostly because Hasbro seems to want to add a new keyword every set for marketing reasons, which really just makes the game more confusing long-term.
viridimayai: Ah the classic Overwatch Crawl, Cam is indeed in my natural habitat (and going faster than I would...)
CoyoteSans: Can't wait for DeepMind or OpenAI to build the god-level Starcraft bot.
MintChocDoublin: i've played this game and failed miserably a dozen times on easy
OldsCool: compairing like Starcraft to somethng like C7C would be cool
niccus: also not quite rng but a lot of protoss units have difficulties... existing in general?
OldsCool: C&C*
MrGibberish: that's kinda how Mutant year does it.
Ferisar: only rng in sc is the uphill/downhill miss chance
Laserbeaks_Fury: oh christ, I just got that the one Kilrathi pilot in Wing Commander was called Hobbes
TraceBullet: at least in vanilla xcom2 you can get weapon attachments that do damage on a missed shot
Asimech: The air-to-air Terran ship in the Brood War has a random spread. Or had in the initial release. It was useless without game updates.
Seagulyus: Tiber727 gotta admit - there did only make like 1 new one for ravnica allegiances right? maybe 2?
Lyinginbedmon: They also occasionally explode on kill... in this mission where you get the melee faction unit
wildpeaks: walls are just a suggestions to them
SajuukSjet: AH, the titan hasn't done his space chores for his exotics this week :D
Seagulyus: Asimech the Valkyrie if I remember it
techguy4: Did he do the legacy hub to unlock new weapons and armor in campaign
drfox17: okay, need to sleep, enjoy all
Asimech: @Seagulyus Yeah, Valkyrie was the name. *So* useless before the rebalancing.
drfox17: no
drfox17: not always
randomino5: that can't be the most efficient way to do the shotgun thing
MrGibberish: does that person name has to be Jack?
OldsCool: they do not
drfox17: just when you don't want them to :D
Worldbuild: They go boom
OldsCool: they dont explode from melle
mtvcdm: try it!
Zephyr256k: Not always, but usually when your soldier is right next to them
SuitablyEpic: it'd be nice if shotgun overwatch waited until things were a reasonable range
silenceaux: Can you Death From Above him?
niccus: it's not quite rng but if you ever had to tell several dragoons to go past a small ramp, you would understand that there is no such thing as order in the world
Dread_Pirate_Westley: That doesn't count as a move.
drfox17: uuuh
Papperslappen: classic xcom
silenceaux: Ahahahahahahaha
RebekahWSD: Well.
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Freshly_Toasted: WHOA
wildpeaks: clip it
OldsCool: lol
Dix: OH NO
randomino5: f
PhoenixGayming: bahahahahaaha
Znazl: LUL
CoyoteSans: Worf... Worf, we need to work on your vertical acuity.
Labjer: Goodbye
Papperslappen: hahahaha
GlennSeto: um
ulexarX: hmm
niccus: chonk
B1ndas: F to pay respects
QuietJay: boom
Mysticman89: knife to flamey explosion tank=bad idea
Freshly_Toasted: seabatBRAIN
Znazl: Reset
B1ndas: f
lilyoswald: g
Papperslappen: lrrCOW lrrCOW lrrCOW
Gascitygaming: F
DaSunao: lrrWOW lrrWOW lrrWOW
kakmize: that's a clip
Hawklight42: f
Talin06: seabatHITBOX
Katten_Rastyr: Wow! Holy shit cirLaugh
ElementalAlchemist: ka-BOOM!
Phllufy: F
Tiber727: @Seagulyus Dunno. I only really follow MTG through geek osmosis watching this stream. Still, I wonder when the designers are going to get sick of it. Most of the time they just take an existing mechanic and make a slight tweak to it, then crap out a bunch of cards using it.
Worldbuild: They go boom
jadeworrior: weeeeeeeeeeeee
CommandoJE: Welp
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: lrrAWW katesRip
Rhynerd: Lesson learned
ArkhamArchivist: seabatBRAIN
korvys: Good science too - We failed quickly.
Zebunisher: was that a reverse suicide attack?!?
AbraPSI: dang
SuitablyEpic: lrrEFF
BlameBlair: linkusF linkusF linkusF linkusF linkusF linkusMad
viridimayai: I guess we reset?
staticdisplay: BWAHAHAH
OldsCool: i have zero regrets
Rhynerd: Is ironman on?
Wilcroft: Reload? Or are we on ironman?
Freshly_Toasted: Don't listen to chat, always listen to chat
cotillion1850: uhhhh well ok
DaSunao: lrrHORN
Seagulyus: Tiber727 they have to make a lot of bad cards. bad cards keep down power creep
JOZeldenrust: Karl Popper would be proud.
chi7891: Reload
BlameBlair: lrrCOW lrrCOW lrrCOW lrrCOW lrrCOW lrrCOW
NexVesica: I did that exact same thing with my ranger the first time I ran into those guys
LiveFaust: slytqRIP
B1ndas: Ironman - no reloads
Rhynerd: Figures.
OldsCool: i legit thought they didnt
drfox17: g'night everyone!
OldsCool: havent played this in about 6 months
randomino5: if this was a true ironman run you should have stopped playing when you lost the first mission
B1ndas: night fox
Seagulyus: Tiber727 they specifically make bad cards for draft, not just to be chaft, but also so they can push down what their powerful cards can be and still be powerful
silenceaux: I mean, you're only playing this for another 15 minutes?
staticdisplay: Night @drfox17
techguy4: Is this on Ironman legendary?
xX_Before_The_Dawn_Xx: randomino5 it's not a playthrough
SajuukSjet: real talk... just how bad IS losing a non-rookie soldier this early?
B1ndas: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 2:44:31.
B1ndas: pretty bad
Rhynerd: Bad.
Mysticman89: doing some googling, and apparently them exploding is 50:50?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Didn't you know the heroic Blight Event is random and based on how many people are around?
Bartlett96: good old "one more turn" syndrome
Nigouki: that was your only ranger
Rhynerd: Gonna have to train more rookies now, and rookies suck.
CoyoteSans: I remember the Cleaners from The Division, yes.
TotallyDefiant: wow running Ironman cam is way braver then I will ever be in these games
Rockario: Apparently you *do* have time to face them, you just faced them pretty well
Alephred: Some have shirts but no pants.
Katten_Rastyr: Skinny jean zeds? cirLaugh
B1ndas: skinnyjean zombies
Rhynerd: Not to mention what the whole crew is gonna have to fight without a slicy fellow.
PhoenixGayming: if the zombies have skinny jeans is that the developers commentary on society and fashion trends?
Freshly_Toasted: Fastbois
lost_tv01: because the rest of their kinda are downright passive; ...wait
Laserbeaks_Fury: Marshal, Will, and Holly, on a routine expedition met the greatest earthquake ever known....
Chatty_Protagonist: Shocked he missed there...
wildpeaks: oh so that's what it was
Dread_Pirate_Westley: Can they get up to you there?
Mysticman89: did he just say he had negative ammo
B1ndas: I believe they can
Tiber727: @Seagulyus I know (even if I think money is 90% of the reason and draft is 10% of the reason). But with the emphasis on pushing a specific mechanic or two each expansion, it's going to get stale sooner or later.
GlennSeto: Worf, pls
Aenir798: @Mysticman89 "Negative" as in the "no" meaning, not the "less than zero"
CoyoteSans: Physics!
wildpeaks: welp, we dun broke it
Gascitygaming: yes the car is going to explode
B1ndas: they all gonna die
TraceBullet: "negative damage" = "oops i accidentally healed the enemy"
mtvcdm: lrrFINE
Asimech: "Almost right on top of you" is a rather unweildy sentence.
wildpeaks: the healing power of bullets
B1ndas: evetything is NOT fine
Mysticman89: negative damage could also be friendly fire
wildpeaks: oh fiddlesticks
Saintnex: UH WHAT
mtvcdm: WELP
Freshly_Toasted: Well gosh darn
TheAinMAP: That's a lot.
PhoenixGayming: they made lots of noise
wildpeaks: maybe it really is There Are Billions after all
B1ndas: uhh
emrafool: you a ranger would be useful here
mtvcdm: We're in a zombie movie now.
PhoenixGayming: this is what happens when you make lots of noise
Freshly_Toasted: Now we're in a zombie film finale
Gascitygaming: Left for dead crew comes in with frying pans and uzis...
SuitablyEpic: can you block up the ladder?
NexVesica: I think you're actually blocking their entrance up
B1ndas: thats a lot of zeds
GroutNASA: Hotkeys man
GroutNASA: Use the hotkeys
Rockario:'s fine, they can't climb ladders? lrrSPOOP
Aenir798: It changes when you run out ofammo
emrafool: you know a ranger would be useful here
Rhynerd: I hate when the game does that.
Papperslappen: XCOM lrrAWW
B1ndas: vox is blocking the ladder
DaSunao: lrrFINE
GureiSeion: One of the ladders.
Rockario: I like how they disappear when he ducks back into cover
wildpeaks: fuudge
Asimech: The whole "buttons re-adjust" thing is when the UI should have an input delay: You lock the input for a split second after the UI changes.
DaSunao: That centipede action
Mysticman89: the googles say purifers are 50:50 on exploding (unless you kill them with explosives) so it wasn't necessarily chat trolling on that one.
Gascitygaming: seems bad?
randomino5: study of zombies descending staircase
B1ndas: gaem plz
TraceBullet: lrrFINE
Zarcez: Just run?
mtvcdm: Cheese it?
wildpeaks: definitely cheese it
amythist: dashers run faster than you can
B1ndas: ^^^
wildpeaks: welp, there goes that plan
Hvertor: How was that 87%? I could hit that!
Papperslappen: poopjoeks
amythist: so can't really run, have to fighting retreat basically
wildpeaks: I guess we die then
Gascitygaming: can we still cheese it? I like cheese
Tiber727: Block both ladders up?
staticdisplay: If we go forward we die, if we go back we die. It is better to go forward.
Rockario: Every time you peek around the corner lrrFRUMP
OldsCool: you have a realy good position
B1ndas: turn timer is a problem
Dix: dude
mtvcdm: how
Zyme86: welp
Freshly_Toasted: That was peak xcom
PhoenixGayming: the rotating bicep in the death pile at the top of the ladder
GlennSeto: how?
wildpeaks: wow
B1ndas: f
OldsCool: welp
Gascitygaming: well good news is fireworks are always nice
TraceBullet: uh... recoil?
emrafool: lol i missed whoops
chi7891: F
Chatty_Protagonist: don't you lie to that man. it is not okay
wildpeaks: fair
chi7891: Turn clock
Zyme86: yay gold star
B1ndas: its not on turns
Zyme86: first time
Freshly_Toasted: Clearly the damage was motivating
Asimech: I mean. I get how you might miss there: If the situation wasn't turn-based you could see a melee happening. But it still hurts.
B1ndas: its solders left
korvys: They're like dogs
OldsCool: worf out
Gascitygaming: thast what you get for missing with a minigun
SuitablyEpic: are you able to just block the ladders?
wildpeaks: "nice knowing you buddy" * flies away*
wildpeaks: oh good
Laserbeaks_Fury: what I love about grapple is it's a free action
B1ndas: zeds
B1ndas: incoming
Chatty_Protagonist: well I shit myself a little
Aenir798: shouldn't you just run
togashinaruta: "What are you watching?" "No, you end your turn" "No you"
Grimmig_Dunkel: @loadingreadyrun Sorry i just got here but why aren't we grenading the zombies? grenades seem like the perfect solution to these guys
Zarcez: Just run now
Mysticman89: maybe drop in paint it black
silenceaux: Grimmig_Dunkel Ran out of grenades, I think
Laserbeaks_Fury: Games over anyways
mtvcdm: This is where a director might freeze frame and go to credits.
Seagulyus: Grimmig_Dunkel we dont have any left
PhoenixGayming: yeah you can evac even if you dash into the evac point
emrafool: gooooo toooo sleeeeep alll issss fiiiiine
Chatty_Protagonist: @Grimmig_Dunkel It's been a long mission
Gascitygaming: have you ever seen a good use of "flight of the bumblebees" in a film/show?
Seagulyus: this is early game Grimmig_Dunkel so we only have a small number
OldsCool: that car was like sod this life
emrafool: the lost are attracted to noise!
mtvcdm: Good Enough!
Grimmig_Dunkel: okay
insane_42: brave sir robin
B1ndas: poor rookie
wildpeaks: All according to plan
emrafool: oh.
Gascitygaming: 2/3 is a pass, thats just math
Nigouki: on the bright side, there's no actual evidence left of what happened to the ranger
B1ndas: poor highly skilled solder
Grimmig_Dunkel: was cam joking when he said they wouldn't catcj him and then they got right up in his grill?
NexVesica: I mean, if they were part of X-com the highly skilled part is debatable
korvys: Highly skilled charcoal
Rhynerd: And now for the boss fight.
emrafool: oh he said the thing!
GlennSeto: They gonna bone?
Makimachine: Well, Worf and Troi did date once. :P
LiveFaust: NOW KISS!
CoyoteSans: ow the edge
wildpeaks: I like this xcom dating sim
adi_pie: Oh, hey, I didn't know this was what Kasumi Goto was up to after Mass Effect.
RebekahWSD: They sound mean
Freshly_Toasted: oh the DRAMA
OldsCool: they also feel like there was meant to be a 4th Elder
BlameBlair: LMFAO @LiveFaust
Gascitygaming: they're like this /\ sometimes they're like this X
Chatty_Protagonist: TAK
Juliamon: yeah it's Tak
OldsCool: Chosen*
lost_tv01: imagine if advent didn't show up then. they might have actually attacked each other.
Alephred: So these guys adapt their superpowers, based on how you beat them. Like the orcs in Shadow of Mordor.
Chatty_Protagonist: God I love that shot
B1ndas: Boss fight time
Chatty_Protagonist: *show
MrGibberish: ya that show is amazing
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B1ndas: RNG pls
FarleyF: You know WOTC is essentially the gargoyles of video games (Troi, Riker, Word, Q)
insane_42: mtgnerRNG
FarleyF: *worf
B1ndas: I once had a 97% shot miss then the next turn-same soldier- hit a 3%
CoyoteSans: That's the case for all Hardest Mode Turn-Based Strategy with limited troop games, though.
MrGibberish: has any of you tried Mutant Year Zero?
PhoenixGayming: the very first mission ive had a guy in heavy cover get 1 shot by a crit from across the map... legit rage quit over that
korvys: There are more ways to fail that mission that just getting the "mission failed" notice
MrGibberish: goes in steps of 25% and puts more emphasis on positioning
Zephyr256k: you can turn off the DLC 'tutorial' mission that introduces the factions and the Chosen, and if youd o you just start with a random resistance faction hero. It makes that first mission 100x easier
B1ndas: zephyr that cheating Kappa
Zephyr256k: it's a vanilla game option
PhoenixGayming: you can in New Game+ options choose which faction you start with Zephyr... coz i often start with templars (or force it)
Zephyr256k: also, that tutorial mission is obnoxiously long
B1ndas: true dat
Mysticman89: hard problems are the ones you don't know how to solve, 'easy' problems can be 10 pages of mathematical muck but it's straightforward
PhoenixGayming: its a pretty epic set piece tho Zeph
insane_42: as you play x-com 2, you start to do stuff to mitigate rng
Zephyr256k: I preffered templars for a while, but once you figure out Skirmishers, they're the bes
Rockario: A game that might be actually impossible tends to lead me to the experience of: looking up the solution, finding out it's impossible, feeling betrayed and like I wasted my time
trippingpossum: greetings & much love to all
CoyoteSans: Here's the ultimate problem with RNG-heavy cideo games. In Tabletop, a Game Master can account for good planning but bad rolls.
CoyoteSans: A video game can;t.
PhoenixGayming: XCOM is an exercise in risk mitigation vs rolling dice i find
lost_tv01: I gotta say though; pvp games without any rng often feel really punishing
Zath_: A save game here and there does lots of overcome the bad parts of XCOM
Zephyr256k: although max rank Templars with the Psi Duplicate ability come very close
B1ndas: @Zath_ not on ironman
Laserbeaks_Fury: Good stream!
wildpeaks: any idea what's the game next week ?
Gekyouryuu: night, all
chi7891: Not on screen FYI
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Zephyr256k: @PhoenixGayming it is pretty epic the first time you play it, but it gets boring pretty fast with repetition
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Zyme86: I didn't think aobut this before but wathing this profoundly reminds me of Adam playing Darkest dungeon
DaSunao: cheer100 "Melee doesn't make them explode" RIP your dude.
ElementalAlchemist: Woo!
mtvcdm: This now concludes another LRR broadcast day. On behalf of everyone at LRR, good night, and good morning.
GroutNASA: <national anthem plays> <static>
Nigouki: thanks for the lovely show! :D
ElementalAlchemist: "Our dude became thoroughly ripped." --Cameron
Zyme86: on the mighty loading ready run network
Gekyouryuu: night, Cam, Cori, and Chat. the three Cs of the night
wildpeaks: every day is always tuesday
Paranundrox: it is Wednesday, my dude
B1ndas: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: LRRMtG on Magic Channel (Broadcast on, join Graham and James for some slightly above average MTG! Game: Magic: The Gathering) at Wed 10:00 AM PST (12:50 from now).
ElementalAlchemist: Happy Tuesday, everyone!
Juliamon: Tomorrow is some MTG, some spoops, and some trains
Nigouki: yaaaaaaaay
Nigouki: previous two Ticket to Ride AFKs were great
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
skiplives: goodnight
Rockario: Now I'm singing "Ticket to Ride" to the tune of "Switchin' to Glide"
wildpeaks: time to get back to baking irradiance maps, 'later chat