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Despoiler98: SO HYPE
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Despoiler98: BATTLETECH
Hingadora: katesWave
TehAmelie: i believe itBattletesh
TehAmelie: *it's pronounced
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DoctorOfBeard: concordia is a great game
Dread_Pirate_Westley: FNM pushed to next week.
SerranoShepard: Oooo, an Unstable draft for FNPF? Yes please!
Despoiler98: @TehAmelie you shut your mouth ><
Phailhammer: cya :)
TehAmelie: yeah that would have been better than slipping on my keyboard that badly
TehAmelie: i'm sure we were all thinking about the anime club Crapshot anyway
Despoiler98: @TehAmelie I just thought you were drunk....thats normal for a tuesday right *sips vodka*
TehAmelie: if only
Despoiler98: uh oh...... slytqWTF
Mox_Hagdorm: Hey that's right, I found an old bottle of rum in my freezer....*edges to freezer*
Juliamon: It's only Tuesday night for some of us!
karmakamikaze: !time
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FarleyF: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: BattleTech) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (5m from now).
girlpainting: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: BattleTech) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (47s from now).
Lord_Hosk: omg omg omg
Lord_Hosk: here comes the opening cinimatic
Juliamon: Hosk getting that hype warmup
Lord_Hosk: its gonna be so good
girlpainting: critroleAshley
Despoiler98: i have no stream anyone else?
Juliamon: Not live yet
girlpainting: me neigther
Earthenone: none here, i think hosk was just getting excited
Mox_Hagdorm: Aww, I was thinking of BattleZone. I was thinking I'd see a bit of my high school years, lol
girlpainting: only the cold embrace of the black screen of doooooom
TheWarbo: Fun fact: "Hosk" is actually short for "HOuSe Kurita"
Leafwind104: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at some of their favourite video games. Game: BattleTech) at Tue 06:00 PM PST (1m ago).
TheWarbo: (this is not actually true)
Despoiler98: (actually true >.>)
karmakamikaze: I have a House Kurita cadet badge from PAX East a few years ago, it's a fun little memento from demoing the tabletop game.
Earthenone: is battletech the game with the weapons that sound like they are from an ikea catalog?
girlpainting: i attack the darkness!
karmakamikaze: I... never got around to buying into the game though. None of my friends wanted to join me D :
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TheAinMAP: Signal.
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I_Am_Clockwork: Oh boy oh boy!
planeswalkagogo: ooo! just in time!
I_Am_Clockwork: It's Battletech day!
planeswalkagogo: on to the big screen you go!
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I_Am_Clockwork: heyho friends
girlpainting: Justin.....justin time
girlpainting: nice to meet you
drfox17: okay, I'll stick around for the opening cinematic, but then i gotta do some stuff
drfox17: i'll be back a bit later
Despoiler98: battletech TIME NAO
I_Am_Clockwork: @drfox17 Gotta stay for that awesome oppening Cinematic
drfox17: must adult
skiplives: Sweet!
girlpainting: drfox17 are you sure about that?
drfox17: yes!
Grimmig_Dunkel: Giant fighting robots!
girlpainting: realy?
Mivair: The name is really good but I keep forgetting that the bots are called Battle*mechs* not Battle*techs*
drfox17: okay okay i'll leave the stream running
Grimmig_Dunkel: Now where are my Kaiju?
girlpainting: thats the spirit! ^^
Earthenone: !findquote tex
LRRbot: Could not find any matching quotes.
Earthenone: !findquote mechs
LRRbot: Quote #4339: "I KILLED A MECH WITH CHICKENS!" —Alex [2017-08-02]
Mox_Hagdorm: !findbutt
LRRbot: Above you?!
Mivair: Thanks Alex
karmakamikaze: !findquote battle
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TheAinMAP: Hello.
I_Am_Clockwork: Hi firends!
SerranoShepard: I don't know if I'll ever get tired of the Talking Sim intro.
Stoffern: HI!
TehAmelie: hiya
Mivair: Hi!
girlpainting: hi
Rhynerd: Greet!
Lord_Hosk: We're chat!
Mox_Hagdorm: Hello lovely people!
Despoiler98: Cam I backed this game on Kickstarter and loved it since I got it I'm playing my current campaign Lance along with your stream tonight! I'm SO HYPE
I_Am_Clockwork is so excited for the stompy mech gameplay
HazaTheRaider: Cool! First question: what the heck IS Battletech
quentastic: no ashen lake background?
skiplives: Hello!
Mivair: @HazaTheRaider Giant mechs the game
Rockario: Personal history with Battletech?
TheWarbo: you can probably skip the opening cinematic; i hear it's pretty meh
drfox17: i'm sorry what
Earthenone: thats awesome
Lord_Hosk bans TheWarbo
KV1NN4: Occupy White Walls needs more paintings of or with cats I think i've got them ALL 8c
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Mivair: Good call Hosk
Earthenone: @KV1NN4 ideally more paintings BY cats as well
I_Am_Clockwork: Battletech universe is filled with *deep lore* if that's your thing
drfox17: i also understand that lore can be... kinda silly
TheWarbo: You cannot ban me, I shall be reborn like Smoke Jaguar
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girlpainting: <3 Mechwarrior2
drfox17: or at the very least... very 90s
I_Am_Clockwork: @drfox17 oh yeah lots of 80's and 90's cheese
Rhynerd: That reminds me, I should find that Pewter Mad Cat MK II I have:
Fruan: All the flashbacks
SachielOne: It. Was. GLORIOUS.
girlpainting: the old intro allone was worth it!
skiplives: Earlier. I played in the late 80s. Finding people to play was hard. The books were amazing though.
TheWarbo: for some reason I mostly remember GBL
EricTheOrange: wing commander
Beofryn: Mechwarrior2 is how I finally got to play in the universe too!
NathanJay_GA: o/
I_Am_Clockwork: Yeah the Mechwarrior series always has very-good-for-thier-tiime oppening cinematic
SerranoShepard: I still remember ripping an ISO of my friend's copy of MW2 so I could play multiplayer arena with him over dialup.
TheWarbo: I also played the MechWarrior tabletop RPG, and *man* did that thing have an involved character creation
MyLittlePwnyta: No Transforming? Aww
drfox17: was earthsiege a "serial numbers filed off" thing?
Mox_Hagdorm: Oh man, Mechwarrior 3 was also a big part of my high school years
Rockario: MW2 came with my parent's computer, and tiny Rockario spent way more time reading the encyclopedia and being confused by Mech customizer
Beofryn: Mechcommander did a great job too
drfox17: ans subsequently, star siege?
I_Am_Clockwork: HareBrained Schemes
Rhynerd: Battletech did have tranforming mechs for a tome. Harmony Gold sued them away.
SachielOne: I backed that sucker.
Despoiler98: Cam I backed this game on Kickstarter and loved it since I got it I'm playing my current campaign Lance along with your stream tonight! I'm SO HYPE
I_Am_Clockwork: yeah I was also a baccker, full disclosure
Baldrash: Just another reason why Harmony Gold sucks so, so hard.
girlpainting: @ LoadingReadyRun can you plz show the old MW2 intro here? ^^
skiplives: It helped that the FASA founders are at Harebrained.
Rockario: I love the Battletech aesthetic of mechs as bipedal tanks, rather than bulky robo-people
I_Am_Clockwork: Paradox doesn't own them, just published them
DoctorOfBeard: is paradox interactive the publisher or the developer?
C4Asaru: ngngSkull ngngBro
VerdaugaTiger: Yep, I really like how Harebrained Schemes kickstarts things. The whole 'We are making this game. Full stop. If you want all these other features, please pay us money."
Rhynerd: Can we have you?
Stoffern: They own them now, I_Am_Clockwork
withr: paradox was publisher for battletech
Rhynerd: “Can we take you home?”
SerranoShepard: The MW2 intro was what got me into battletech from an aesthetic standpoint.
Lord_Hosk: Can you show the current Battletech intro... I hear its... pretty swell
Schnappsy: Talking Sim, I catch it for the first time in a while!
drfox17: what's the relationship to this franchise with earthsiege and the cybrids?
KV1NN4: @Earthenone Yes that would also be acceptable XD
Rockario: You want to get pumped to plasy mechwarrior2? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X3GD0UnBCk
I_Am_Clockwork: @Stoffern oh RIGHT, I forgot about the acctual aquisition
xOSaabx: 3025
I_Am_Clockwork: 3025-ish
C4Asaru: ngngDFA ngngDropship ngngLuv
Chaser617: 3025
Earthenone: so universal centuray battletech?
Rhynerd: After the third succession wars, right?
drfox17: yesss introoooo
SerranoShepard: @Schnappsy This is the first Talking Sim I've ever caught live, it's pretty sweet!
girlpainting: inner sphere battles!
Lord_Hosk: shhhhh shhhh shhhhhh
skiplives: 3025
Lord_Hosk: everyone shhhhh
I_Am_Clockwork: 3025 is the time setting of Ye Olde Battletech tabletop
VerdaugaTiger: *puts down accounting homework to watch into*
Rhynerd: 3050 was Clan Invasion, right?
I_Am_Clockwork: @Rhynerd yeah, the start of it
EricTheOrange: @Lord_Hosk don't you shhh me
SK__Ren: I love this intro
MyLittlePwnyta: Oooh! Spehs
Earthenone: was...was it suposed to do that?
VerdaugaTiger: This intro gives me chills.
Rhynerd: Yes
I_Am_Clockwork: @Earthenone Jump Ship, yes
El_Spectre: Ooh, good choice. They did right by BT with this one.
Earthenone: ohh good
Aenir798: @Earthenone That was the first FTL test I think
HazaTheRaider: colonialism wooo!
I_Am_Clockwork: For traveling FTL
Vertech289: I was about 3/4 of the way through the campaign then my save file currupted. Then my HDD died :[
TehAmelie: sort of the same style as the Stellaris intro
HazaTheRaider: Ian Cameron, thats 2 LRR names
Meltalar: hell yes!
Gekyouryuu: I'm sorry, Ian Cameron?!
Meltalar: sergeSqueak sergeSqueak sergeSqueak sergeSqueak lohAyaya
Rhynerd: Ian Cameron.
Rhynerd: Of house Cameron
Despoiler98: slytqOMG slytqOMG slytqOMG slytqOMG
Rhynerd: Leading house of the Star League
Despoiler98: slytqDance slytqDance slytqDance slytqDance
MyLittlePwnyta: Oh no humans don't fight each other!
Jay_Blanc: This is all Cameron's fault.
SerranoShepard: That was beautiful.
I_Am_Clockwork: This Cinematic does an excelent job of both showcasing battlemechs in universe, but also setting up the universe they inhabit all without dialogue or massive text walls
drfox17: man, that's like watching the rise and fall of rome
Mox_Hagdorm: Ok, I need this.
underhill33: That was rad
Rhynerd: Which is sort of the Roman Empire of the Battletech series?
girlpainting: i still prefer the MW2 intro
FerociousPeach: the soundtrack for this game is so good
SerranoShepard: Ehhh... MW2 intro was something else, tho.
Wodar9: Are we here talking about Super Robots
Meltalar: game sound is very loud compared to cam and cory
I_Am_Clockwork: hide your password
SachielOne: Go to Booth?
drfox17: I like that it was pretty limited in animation, but told the story and shows the style
xantos69: Playing Stelarus right now.....Super good game.
Lord_Hosk: I made it... it was me... I was hopped up on Jolt Cola and sour patch kids over one long weekend ;)
SerranoShepard: Go to booth?
SK__Ren: I'm kinda excited to see them play this post stagger nerf
Nenluen: booth for login :)
MostCallMe__Tim: Cryptonomicon/Neal Stephenson mention count is at 1
Stoffern: @Loadingreadyrun It was made by a few artists for Harebrained I think...ONE of the artists is Jenn Ravena, wich you may know from recent magic cards!
girlpainting: büp
Despoiler98: slytqWTF slytqWTF slytqWTF slytqWTF
BrindleBoar: RIP
Despoiler98: NO CAM
drfox17: cameron hacks the server!
VerdaugaTiger: This music works so well for "TV hacking suspense moment"
Mox_Hagdorm: That was quite topical Cam, seeing as you just went to the booth :P
Aenir798: game is loud
girlpainting: critroleJester
Worldbuild: lrrHEART lrrHEART lrrHEART lrrHEART
Despoiler98: slytqHeart
Rhynerd: 30 seconds left?
Baldrash: Turn it UP!
MostCallMe__Tim: Wait, is this game new?
drfox17: such good music
VerdaugaTiger: It loud
NathanJay_GA: Goddammit, the firewall's encrypted! I need more time!
asddsa28: no it is lowed
Lord_Hosk: This game is about a year old
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Aenir798: It's loud for us too
DoctorOfBeard: #blamePUBG
SerranoShepard: Having a hard time hearing over the game.
Rhynerd: “I’m in”
cosarprime: The music is a bit loud.
I_Am_Clockwork: I'm pretty sure all or at least most of the art assets are HBS inHouse, Apart from the actual Mech moddles which are licenced from PGI's MechWarrior Online
El_Spectre: MostCallMe__Tim , bout a year old, with some recent updates
drfox17: @NathanJay_GA "They are tracing your signal, GET OUT"
C4Asaru: @LRR All the mech designs for this game came form MechWarrior Online done by Piranha Games.
Mivair: The music is Very loud
SerranoShepard: Better now, thank you. <3
EricTheOrange: It's better now
sir_jack_DB: !music loud
Wodar9: music is loud and cutting out
Kerrisis: Game volume is a bit high at this end too.
NathanJay_GA: :D
TriggerHappy2Pi: Glad I can watch this while installing linux on an old laptop. First time I've done something like this so wish me luck!
devin_yesthatdevin: Down on game, up on cam & cori
Despoiler98: GRINDS MY GEARS
VerdaugaTiger: I thought it steamed your clams.
Sir__Octopus: @triggerhappy2pi good luck
Wodar9: isn't steaming your hams a good thing?
Despoiler98: I just can't play above normal anymore its just not fun
TehAmelie: the first time i heard the expression "steamed hams" was when Alex was explaining that's when you sit on your SO's face and rip ass
Jay_Blanc: But everyone loves RNG.
El_Spectre: AC/20 Headshot? Yeah, sounds like BattleTech
TehAmelie: "aka the Divorce Speedrun"
Vertech289: RNG can be a real B*** in this game
Despoiler98: in anything like Xcom, Xcom2, Battletech I feel anything above normal is no longer meant to be "fun"
I_Am_Clockwork: This game sufferes from some Mech-Sim randommness that is a cary-over from the table top. It can make for some both Frustrating, and Awesome moments
SerranoShepard: @TehAmelie Thanks, I hate it.
I_Am_Clockwork: nothing like being able to salvage an assault mech because of a lucky PPC shot to it's cockpit
Rhynerd: Not gonna make a character?
I_Am_Clockwork: It used to be "empty" space in Battletech lore
VerdaugaTiger: I play games on Normal or easier because I enjoy a more relaxing experience. I totally understand that other people like a harder experience. I think when possible devs should make a game that works for both.
I_Am_Clockwork: not uncolonized, just not claimed by anyone else
drfox17: i really like the art
drfox17: and the way it has layers which slide for effect
I_Am_Clockwork: yeah art direction is 10/10 imo
Rhynerd: Little kingdoms on the fringes of known space
Despoiler98: @VerdaugaTiger I'm totally with you, I play games to relax not get frustrated right?
VerdaugaTiger: The "First Among Equals" guy
TheWarbo: I have always loved the "Magistracy of Canopus" originally based solely on the way the name rolls of the tongue.
Wodar9: Star Lord!?
I_Am_Clockwork: The starlord was a Dingus, and got murdered by an even bigger Dingus, and it started a big civil war
HazaTheRaider: by 'little', you mean like, '4-5 populated earths'?
MyLittlePwnyta: Game of Space Thrones? Aaah.
TriggerHappy2Pi: sounds like that one asimov series (can't remember the name tho)
Mox_Hagdorm: !!
drfox17: i mean, it was clearl inspired
SachielOne: So about ComStar...
Wodar9: The Guardians of the Galaxy is in this?
Mox_Hagdorm: Cori with the soul read
LDUrquhart: I know we had to skip it for time but I also really like the first cinematic when you hit new game
MyLittlePwnyta: Robot Samurai? To protect your Space rice farmers?
El_Spectre: Freakin' ComStar...
SK__Ren: [REDACTED]
C4Asaru: Battletech is basically Game of Thrones in space....but long before Game of Thrones was a thing.
Vertech289: Comstar= Cathlic church plus ATT
I_Am_Clockwork: ComStar is inspired partially by the Spacing Guild from Dune and partially by the Foundation in Foundation serires by Asimov
Arklith: can you play as clan or only inner sphere?
niccus: who are comstar's runners
Master_Gunner: who eventually have a schism, throwing known space into yet more conflict...
Rhynerd: The leader put a bit of cult into the system in the name of more power.
Wodar9: @Vertech289 single god? does it have a jesus?
TheWarbo: Now do the Blakists!
Rhynerd: It ended in nukes.
SK__Ren: @Arklith pretty sure this is way before Clans show up
Kerrisis: ComStar are loonies, but at least they were mostly benign. The Blakists that overthrew them though... Damn!
Rhynerd: And other war crimes.
delta__vee: no, comstar, the captain of the gravy train KappaRoss
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Vertech289: @Wodar9 yup, technology
godpigeon: "asian culture"
MyLittlePwnyta: Space russia?
Chaser617: Draconis Combine wasn't really Soviet influences that was more the Capellan Confederation
Earthenone: ahh Dave
Chaser617: well the Cappies were more Chinese/Russian mix
Wodar9: Dave?
Arklith: oh no! no timber wolf primes
I_Am_Clockwork: yeah Cappelens were Comunist China mixed with Warrior Houses
I_Am_Clockwork: very Serve The State
VerdaugaTiger: ComStar is the Bell Telephone of this era.
Mivair: Into the sea!
Rhynerd: Timber wolfs weren’t until 3050 sadly.
Chaser617: It always felt more like the Tokugawa Shoganate in Space for theDraconis Combine
Wodar9: Get in the robot!
SK__Ren: More like "Oh no, no Marauder Mk.II"
Worldbuild: Capella was a mix of multiple mainland Asian cultures
Rhynerd: What mech VR game is this?
SerranoShepard: I still have a game with copy-protection like that.
TheWarbo: Oh man I just got to the copy protection int hePaul Quest I'm watching
Chaser617: Granted in Battletech *No one* really are the good guys, or the badguys
Vertech289: I remember my Dad taking me and a friend on a trip to NY just to play the VR game when I was a kid
SK__Ren: Sounds like Cori is describing Steel Battalion
Worldbuild: YEP^
C4Asaru: The current MechWarrior game doesn't have all that simulation in it.
EricTheOrange: My favorite "copy protection" was Leisure suit larry asking questions only an adult would know.
godpigeon: heavily armed with better tech
Rockario: Another 90's quirk of MW2, the exit-to-desktop confirmation box read "Admit your cowardice?"
Wodar9: Does BattleTech have "psychic pilots" like in mech animes?
El_Spectre: Dirty Clanners. Splitters!
Rhynerd: @wodar9 no psychics.
Chaser617: @Wodar9 no
VerdaugaTiger: "Clanners? I'm not prejudiced, I hate them all."
Worldbuild: No psychics, just psychos
girlpainting: speeez
TheAinMAP: bombar3Space
TheWarbo: IIRC not actually psychic but there are "genetically optimized for higher brainpower" pilots
HazaTheRaider: SPAESS
Rhynerd: Closest thing they have to superhumans are probably Clanners who were modified in their birthing pods.
Vertech289: the Clans kinda see themselves as Newtypes
Chaser617: battlemechs actually being a viable weapon of war is pretty much the main outrageous 'lie' of the universe
Rhynerd: Kerensky being a notable name
EricTheOrange: Question for chat, did anyone else actually play CnC Red Alert 3 where that quote comes from. Cuz I hear that quote alot but I've never heard someone else actually played the game.
HazaTheRaider: oh boy, populism!
MyLittlePwnyta: Let us bring the light of the Emprah to all who do not know his light
Rockario: @EricTheOrange I played that game
Nightecho06: is this robotech?
Nigouki: Tereshkova was
CaKnuckleguy: Yeah. A mech? Pfft. Just need an army of SRM carrier APC's and game over
Wodar9: @TheWarbo How is that shown off in the story? Like how extreme does it get
I_Am_Clockwork: lol Cam
Vertech289: gotta love C&C
BibitteNoire: I played RA3
Master_Gunner: EricTheOrange I played it until the game soft-locked on me and I gave up.
Phailhammer: EricTheOrange: Played it, but I don't remember getting that far.
FerociousPeach: Do the wolves have dragoons?? *looks around shiftily*
Chaser617: Santiago is very.... 'historical' lets say...
Despoiler98: TRAITOR
MyLittlePwnyta: BATTUL BRUVAHS! SPEHSS MEHREENS!
Chaser617: what she said, didn't want to bring it up in chat
TehAmelie: return the country's lost glory, hmm, i've heard that one before
VerdaugaTiger: Tradition!
Wodar9: Directorics is a mouthful
TheWarbo: @Wodar9 No idea in this game; I haven't played and only watched a bit. I know lore from playing TTRPG and wargame and a bit of computer game back in the 90s
girlpainting: We are an anarchistic Syndicalistic comunity!
HazaTheRaider: "if it wasnt good, would it have lasted this long???"
EricTheOrange: @Phailhammer it's like the lastor second last allies mission. Where tim curry takes the red's on to the moon because "it's the last place un-touched by capatalism".
Rockario: They're Nationalists, so you better not be a part of the current nation or you're in trouble
CamelAttack: It reminds me of the Homeworld cinematic stuff.
Chaser617: A lot of people discribe it as 'PacRim Meets Game of Thrones'
VerdaugaTiger: @HazaTheRaider Best argument against that: emergency shelf stable food. =P
Nigouki: I still find it kinda sad that first woman in space was 1963, but first American woman wasn't until 1983
Phailhammer: EricTheOrange: I've seen the clip, I just never saw it in game, unfortunately. :D
Nigouki: get to the moon? easy! sending women to space? naaaaaaah
VerdaugaTiger: Quit preparing, just go!
Stoffern: This particular loading screen was in fact painted by the gamedesigner, or gamedirector...one of those...
FerociousPeach: @Chaser617 both of which came long after Battletech, lol
Vertech289: @CamelAttack god I love me some Homeworld
Bobtheninjagoldfish: I'm suddenly getting the urge to go back and watch episodes of DFA...
El_Spectre: Battletech is older than most folks watching, I'd wager
Master_Gunner: head on a swivel!
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Membranes1: Something going wrong on MY coronation day? its more likely then you think
Chaser617: *chuckles*
MyLittlePwnyta: Poetry, followed by obvious observation
Despoiler98: OuO?
FerociousPeach: god damnit cameron, lol
CaKnuckleguy: Cori spit take counter: 1
MechaKuuga: swivel those heads
BrindleBoar: mechuwuarriors?!?
FerociousPeach: generally the aristocrats do
FerociousPeach: that's why they're in power
nhouse1919: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 26:39.
Rockario: Pilotting a mech is like knowing how to ride a horse
TheWarbo: yeah that's a feudal thing.
girlpainting: Mech units are evan called "lance"
Vertech289: Mechs are actually passed down as family heirlooms
Jay_Blanc: Don't make me bring up Scott Malcomson.
nhouse1919: Just got here, What???
Rhynerd: The family that keeps the mechs is the family that holds the power.
El_Spectre: The *good* mechs are ancient tech, no one knows how to make them anymore.
Wodar9: How much do Mechs cost in universe? is there an equivalent I can understand using current machines?
I_Am_Clockwork: yeah Battlemechs equalling Knights is a very Intentional thing
Gascitygaming: kinda like 40k in that way?
Rhynerd: @wodar9 they often cost around a million C-bills or more.
Leafwind104: It's rare and quite powerful for what it is
I_Am_Clockwork: In this age you didn't pilot the best in existance, you pilot what you have
Rhynerd: Typically much more
Despoiler98: Its her STEED
Gascitygaming: Also Cam, ever see the Helsreach fanmade 40k animated movie?
Rockario: Particularily because places that build mechs are, like, a dozen places in the galaxy mostly controller by one State
I_Am_Clockwork: because tech is declining and mechs are "rare"
BrindleBoar: curse your sudden and inevitable betrayal!
MyLittlePwnyta: WhO cOuLD hAVe sEen ThIS coMInG?
Rhynerd: I mean, your character’s Blackjack is a family heirloom.
I_Am_Clockwork: So much in the same what as people whould hand down armor or lands or a sword, families will hand down battlemechs
Master_Gunner: At this point in the Battletech universe, are they even still able to make mechs? I know they lost that capability for a while.
62MGcobra: give tech about 25 years then it gets fun
El_Spectre: DFA DFA DFA :)
Wodar9: @Rhynerd I am going to need that converted to something in the real world I understand. In dollars maybe?
xOSaabx: pilot skill and mech class
VerdaugaTiger: And your mech class, Cam
Laserbeaks_Fury: I never quite understood why battlemech had "hands" when they never hold weapons
Vertech289: By this point in the Universe its actually REALLY HARD to build new Mechs. They lost most of that technology
Lord_Hosk: the level of mech also plays into the phase
Rockario: @Laserbeaks_Fury Verisimilitude
EricTheOrange: Leaders fighting in the front, something you only find in stories, and bad leaders.
VerdaugaTiger: Mech level actually plays more into it IIRC Been a bit since I played
drfox17: see part of me wonders, how much is "lost technology" a real thing in human history?
Despoiler98: Its almost Warhammer 40K in the LOST TECH kind of theme
I_Am_Clockwork: the initiative phases are based off of weight class
Vertech289: @Laserbeaks_Fury in the bigger lore, some hold melee weapons, or are actually used to pick up and move things.
Rhynerd: @wodar9 C-bills are the universal currency of the Battletech universe. Comstar Bills. I guess the closest they’d be to today are either Euroes or whatever currency the Catholic Church likes the most.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Well, I mean the real answer is Battletech is loosely spawned off Robotech, and the Veritechs in that show did hold the guns
El_Spectre: drfox17, we had inferior concrete for about 1500 years
drfox17: is it maybe more realistic that making new mechs is "too expensive" or "requires a level of logistics youc an't do with only regional power control"
MyLittlePwnyta: @Despoiler98 we must appease the Battle robot's machine spirit
TehAmelie: one thing i'd like to see more is sci fi set when all the iron has oxidized
Rockario: @drfox17 Both
Despoiler98: @MyLittlePwnyta praise the Robot GOD
Chaser617: the whole Battletech/Robotech/Macross thing is.... 'Complicated'
Master_Gunner: drfox17: the most famous example would probably be the loss of Roman concrete and construction abilities, largely because there were no remaining states capable of paying for such large infrastructure projects, so the skills were not passed on.
FerociousPeach: @drfox17 no, it's mostly that they can't; the first 2 succession wars were massive total conflicts in which all sides nuked the hell out of everything
Vertech289: @Chaser617 understatement
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nhouse1919: @erictheorange While you hear about field generals being a thing in human war, they aren’t the top general, they are actually low rank generals, and not critical to the war effort
drfox17: @El_Spectre But my understanding there is that it's due to not having really good ingredients for concrete because it was all used up, and they aerated it because of animal sacrifice, which they didn't really understand
El_Spectre: Consider this: We can develop advanced rockets now, but we couldn't rebuild a Saturn 5 if we tried. The docs are limited, and the engineers are dying off.
FerociousPeach: @Master_Gunner with the added carnage of nuking factories and research labs
drfox17: okay, true, but we can build things which are pretty equivalent
Lord_Hosk: Roman Field medicine was superior to most WW1 field medicine,
Chaser617: yeah it isn't untill I think around 3030 or so that you really able to mass-produce mechs again, and even then it takes time
VoidByAnyOtherName: ooh battletech
Balthasar_Wiseman: Shouldn't the 9R have a PPC?
Despoiler98: shadowhawk is BADASS medium
I_Am_Clockwork: that's what it has right now
Mr_Whyt: current condition
El_Spectre: Yeah, and they can build some mechs at this point in BT, but not the really good, Star League tech ones
drfox17: even if world order breaks down, we don't lose the understanding of rocketry. we lose the resources to build massive rockets
Lord_Hosk: Lost knowledge is quite common in human history
I_Am_Clockwork: These mechs are already battledamaged
Rockario: Those armour and structure points are divided between the individual parts
Chaser617: could be a field mod canacolly the stripping of the PPC for the LLaser is really common
Despoiler98: the tutorial everyone is already banged up
Rhuvian: That's the point though, @drfox17. The people who understood how things worked were killed. The factories razed. The planets nuked. The blueprints lost. The very language the technology was written in was lost.
FerociousPeach: @drfox17 but if everyone who works on rockets, in factories, labs and launch facilities get killed, we lose that knowledge; that's what happened in the BT universe
TheWarbo: I know lost knowledge is a real thing, but now when I hear about it my brain goes right to the Very Wrong Chart about the library of Alexandria.
The_Color_Twelve: This was a fun game
I_Am_Clockwork: Punching is also fun
Rhynerd: But lucky for the enemy mech, you didn’t crit the ammo.
Rhuvian: They no longer even know how to READ some of the blueprints.
Rhynerd: Critting the ammo sets the ammo off this game, right?
I_Am_Clockwork: yes
Leafwind104: I believe so
Rhynerd: Good.
drfox17: okay, so if we bring nukes into the equation, that makes sense
FerociousPeach: yes, and then bad days are had for your pilot
El_Spectre: We could build giant rockets. We couldn't replicate stuff that is a lifetime old, anymore.
I_Am_Clockwork: but for ballance reasons, it doesn't nuke your mech
I_Am_Clockwork: just blows out the location that holds the ammo
VerdaugaTiger: Yes but... what clockwork said.
I_Am_Clockwork: (which required specialized equipment in the table-top)
El_Spectre: CASE is for wimps :)
VerdaugaTiger: It can injure the pilot too I think.
FerociousPeach: @I_Am_Clockwork in this game, everyone gets CASE :)
I_Am_Clockwork: but the Table-Top is a Very Lethal system, so I don't mind the change
El_Spectre: Living, unsplattered wimps, granted...
Rhynerd: Most planets in Battletech tend to only have one or two cities on them, right?
control_rig: So close, Cori
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I_Am_Clockwork: The Melee animations for this game are a ton of fun
Vertech289: Major cities, theres still small towns and stuff
El_Spectre: Including melee in this game is the best
FerociousPeach: @Rhynerd yeah, a lot of planets are relatively sparsely populated
BrindleBoar: yeah, hard to capacitate when you're dead
TheWarbo: I mean, they have lost their capacities
Chaser617: @Rhynerd sually on the captial planets or major manufacturing worlds have massive populations yeah
El_Spectre: Punching a light mech with an assault is great. They just kinda fall apart
Lord_Hosk: I think you overestimate "history moves ever forward" War, disease or even cultural shifts have caused huge setbacks in human knowledge countless times and there is no reason to assume "well it cant happen again"
drfox17: huh, my gundam viewing mostly had the mechs exploding, but i've only seen one series
JohnPraw: This game looks sweet. Finally getting a decent PC next week - I'll have to try this.
Rhynerd: Some pilots survive incapicitation.
VerdaugaTiger: Ah, like the Elefant / Ferdinand in WW2
Rhynerd: Namely your pilot.
Mr_Whyt: you can overheat all the way to shutdown
I_Am_Clockwork: If you completely fill your heat gague you *will* shut down
Rockario: Does this game also have the emergency shutdown when you hit a certain ceiling?
El_Spectre: If you're not overheating, you're not trying!
control_rig: Your engineers will yell at you LOTS
Beofryn: Overheating to take out an enemy heavy weapons platform is totally worth it
drfox17: @Lord_Hosk I guess that's true, but I also don't like "we lost the science", because it was also true that Somebody had it, just maybe on the other side of the world
I_Am_Clockwork: Battletech armor is ablative
Chaser617: The thing with Battletech is most major worlds have been nuked at least once, many times multiple times within just the first succession war alone
Leafwind104: Yeah armor is completely free to repair
El_Spectre: Rockario. if you don't explode, yes
VerdaugaTiger: @Lord_Hosk We are dealing with a case of "it can't happen again, oh but it is happening again" right now with measles.
control_rig: He kicked you in the back!
SachielOne: In UC Gundam, Pilots are trained to aim for the cockpit to kill the pilot, because a reactor hit inside a space colony is a VERY BAD THING.
Vertech289: too bad you cant actually Cook the Pilot
I_Am_Clockwork: it's designed to slough off when used up
I_Am_Clockwork: so its also desigened to be easy to replace
Laserbeaks_Fury: is there a hight advantage?
Chaser617: we basically did a damned good job of trying to wipe out the species during the 1st and 2nd Succession Wars
Rhynerd: There’s always enough scrap lying around a mechbay to build ablative armor out of.
Leafwind104: goddamn now I want to play this game...
Leafwind104: (again)
Vertech289: yes, terrian position is VERY important
El_Spectre: Nope, you cored him!
nhouse1919: do mechs punch if they run out of ammo?
Rhuvian: @drfox17 There are also other factors at play that may be a tad spoilerish. There are active forces, as well as cumulative ones, explaining the state of the Inner Sphere in 3025.
CaKnuckleguy: Mastiiiiiiiiif. PAAAUUUMCH
sir_jack_DB: *boot*
El_Spectre: nhouse1919, nope, it's a choice
Vertech289: no Melee attacks are optional
drfox17: @Rhuvian Well, i understand that this is a game with a storyline, so I'm not picking at the franchise, i'm kinda just navel gazing
nhouse1919: @el_spectre @vertech289 thanks
l42liam: hello there
Lord_Hosk: Like at this point, that pilot would run away... there is no way this pilot with no weapons left on their mech would say.. "I KNOW! Ill kick you"
Rhuvian: @drfox17 I understand - just trying to help educate, not being defensive.
drfox17: i also recognize that "nuclear strike" is a level of destruction that isn't well modeled in our hsitory
Phailhammer: Lord_Hosk: "I'M INVINCIBLE!" lrrBEEJ
Rockario: @Lord_Hosk He's in the middle of a coup, so maybe they're just very zealous today
Leafwind104: Yeah i'd want the a.i. to better reflect an actual personality or company as you are when you play
DaMullet14: Who would know better than Cam what the costs of being a mercenary faction are
El_Spectre: When we had a tabletop campaign, we had specific rules for the OpFor, specifically because of that. Otherwise, they'd always fight to the death.
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NathanJay_GA: I guess it a "Black Knight" problem
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VerdaugaTiger: Best RSVP is one delivered with a PPC?
I_Am_Clockwork: oddly, there is a Mech called the Black Knight
I_Am_Clockwork: it is a laser boat
I_Am_Clockwork: and very rare, due to being out of production
NathanJay_GA: huh
Vertech289: Favorite Mechs?
Worldbuild: overheats so easy
Rockario: Oh, right, I thought NathanJay was making a reference to the MW4 expansion
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I_Am_Clockwork: My Favorite is the Hunchback
Mr_Whyt: step on them
Pope_Dorito: Pokemech...gotta salvage them all
I_Am_Clockwork: A smallish Medium that mounts a massive AC20
Lord_Hosk: I love stepping on those tanks
Worldbuild: Favorite is the Savage Coyote
Pope_Dorito: A wild striker apepars!
CaKnuckleguy: They are small and cuddly and OHMYGOD WHY DID THAT SRM CARRIER DESTROY MY ZEUS?
Rhynerd: Little laser tank.
62MGcobra: hunchback is mine too. nice
El_Spectre: Blackjack with 2LL, 2ML, and jump jets
Earthenone: how much "make a custom mech" type stuff can you do in this?
Chaser617: In all my playthroughs of the game I've only seen the Black Knight *once* outside a certain storyline mission
Wodar9: I wish New XCom was more like old Xcom and had the aliens actually exist on the map in the fog
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xantos69: cheer50 I always felt so bad in Mech Warrior when I just walked through tanks...I think it was because on the open coms you heard people scream.
El_Spectre: Swaybacks are great too
drfox17: i like that there are tanks. not everything needs legs. but having walking mechs is awesome
62MGcobra: catapult also
I_Am_Clockwork: Another Favorite is the Grashopper, wich is a Jump capable Heavy mech
Rhynerd: @xantos69 oh god...
Pope_Dorito: Kamala Uses SRM * Its super effective*
I_Am_Clockwork: really tall and very mobile
Laserbeaks_Fury: You know, if the AI were more wary of losing it's resources, you'd get way less salvage and could possibly get starved out of upgrades
I_Am_Clockwork: Some Dev backstory, these maps are HUUUUGE, and they only use small parts of them in any given mission
Rhynerd: I do not envy the salvage crews of the battetech campaigns.
I_Am_Clockwork: wich lets them use the same "map" from different angles and in different spots to do different areas in the same biome
Chaser617: never a huge fan of the Grasshopper, granted I think my favorite heavy mech is the Thunderbolt
Pope_Dorito: Mastiff uses AC/10 *Its super effective*
Rhuvian: @drfox17 In the tabletop there are also boats, submarines, VTOL, airplanes, aerospace fighters, infantry, airships, etc.
drfox17: i would like to think there's a story reason for their aggressiveness, like they know their superiors will be upset at retreat
I_Am_Clockwork: Thunderbolt is a solid workhorse mech
FerociousPeach: kicking tanks is my favorite pastime in this game :)
Rhynerd: Imagine having to find something useful off a tank that somebody stepped on.
Lord_Hosk: brave... puddle of goo
El_Spectre: No love for the Cattlemaster?
Pope_Dorito: Excuse don't you mean AC/20
Worldbuild: The thunk is delightful
Despoiler98: I play MWO and looooove firing 4 AC/2s in succession on my Rifleman
Chaser617: yeah Gomba-stomping vehicles is so much fun
CaKnuckleguy: Awesome 3 PPC builds. Maybe a small pulse laser for fly swatting. And more heat sinks then should be possible.
korvys: I arrived late - Rotorua? Are we in NZ?
SachielOne: Can we drop a Mad Cat outside Harmony Gold HQ?
drfox17: @Rhynerd How do you shoot down sero-fighters? that would seem difficult
Laserbeaks_Fury: What is the AK-47 of mechs?
girlpainting: @ LoadingReadyRun what i don´t understand is the weight measurement in this game. Battlemechs are measured between 30 and 100 tonns....and you see here a tank, that is clearly waaaaay smaler. well, a normal leopard 2 tank allone weights around 62 tonns. so acording to this your mech should weigh around 3-500 tonns ;-
I_Am_Clockwork: Blackjack is a decent design
62MGcobra: @Earthenone there's some customization but limited to swapping lasers for lasers or ballistics or missiles
CaKnuckleguy: Sadly, PPC's in this edition just aren't as good
Pope_Dorito: @drfox17 I'd assume ac/2 and lasters
I_Am_Clockwork: unfortunately the AC2 is horrible in the Table-top
Pope_Dorito: If not srms
Rhynerd: @drfox17 pardon?
Kerrisis: The Blackjack is a walking coffin. -.-;
I_Am_Clockwork: but then, balistic weapons are poorly balanced in the Table top
drfox17: i just know, modern aircraft are pretty fast
El_Spectre: girlpainting , Battlemechs are made of lightweight marshmallow, apparently
Pope_Dorito: As in good, or or bad balanced
I_Am_Clockwork: in that they are heavy, but cool-running, and the game lets you streach heat, but not weight
korvys: Rotorua? Are we in NZ?
drfox17: missiles work pretty good, but that requires radar networks
Rhuvian: @drfox17 Sensors give mechs warning of approaching strafe runs. Usually missiles and guided autocannons shots.
Rockario: I love the less people-looking mechs, like Catapults
Rhuvian: @drfox17 Or other aerospace fighters.
drfox17: hm, okay
I_Am_Clockwork: nuuuu dey shot ur bros! D:
BrindleBoar: we'll be bro-reft if that happens Kappa
Pope_Dorito: @I_Am_Clockwork So would you prefer more ballistics or more lasers?
SachielOne: Looks like someone brought the Catapult
Chaser617: I tend to favor ballistics but that's a very Davion attitude.....
I_Am_Clockwork: @Pope_Dorito In tabletop, minmaxers often opt for lazer boats
drfox17: oh, okay, yeah air superiority, that makes sense too
Lord_Hosk: Don't worry those buildings were empty, everyone was downtown for the celebrations
I_Am_Clockwork: also Ammo explodes and lasers don't use ammo
Rhynerd: Lasers are arguably better for hitting aircraft, right?
I_Am_Clockwork: not really
Lord_Hosk: by your command
Pope_Dorito: I don't know I'm playing MekHQ and I'm just lasy to replace AC with lasers
SK__Ren: @girlpainting A way to look at it is the weight of the mechs aren't limited by the structural limits of the materials used, but the engines used to move the mech. Some of the lighter mechs can break 100kpm, which I'd be hard pressed to believe if they were 300 tonnes and not 30
FerociousPeach: also, lasers are lightspeed point and shoot, so as long as you can phyically track, you can trash it
TheAinMAP: So, were those buildings returned to the country's "former glory."
I_Am_Clockwork: Light ACs and Missiels are cannonically the Anti Air weapons of choice
CaKnuckleguy: That sider has been....Disarmed...
drfox17: @Rhynerd I guess so, since lasers are lightspeed, and if you have good sensors, just... compared to mechs, they're small
Chaser617: @CaKnuckleguy boooooo
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El_Spectre: Battletech physics is dicey. Small bullets go further than heavy ones, and lasers have ranges of about 300 yards
CaKnuckleguy: @Chaser617 Thank you.
Redshift2k5: oh hi
I_Am_Clockwork: the light AC's and Long Range Missiles cannonicaly have the best ranges of any weapons too
I_Am_Clockwork: battletech scale weapons are very short ranged, compaired to modern military hardware, but that's sort of handwaved away
Rhynerd: Mechs do tend to be better for taking out other mechs or land-based combat.
SnowToad: wuzzzup
Rhynerd: Big guns never tire
Despoiler98: Physics in BT is "DONT WORRY ABOUT IT"
El_Spectre: It's so you didn't need a 20 foot long map to play tabletop, I get that.
drfox17: meh, i'll chalk it up to narrative fun, which i can accept. I mean, i accept fighter combat in star wars
Chaser617: @LoadingReadyRun and a modern M1A2 Abrams has a longer effective engagement range than a Battletech large laser....
62MGcobra: i just say the ac20 cant fit the powder for long range like a battleship can.
drfox17: and that don't make no sense
I_Am_Clockwork: yeah It's best not to get lost in compairing Battletech Physics to realworld. That way Madness Lies
Pope_Dorito: I like how targetting computers are very primitive combared to irl fighter jets
MyLittlePwnyta: Welp, this sucks
Laserbeaks_Fury: I thought the only difference between an AC-2 and an AC-20 is the latter had 10x the guns firing than the former
skiplives: The AC 20 is more of a shotgun for a City than a long range weapon.
Rhuvian: @drfox17 They definitely aren't easy to hit, either in lore or in tabletop rules. The mechs can be a threat though. It also helps that mech sensors share information between other friends units. They effectively share each others firing solutions.
tehcrashxor: Stay insides? NO! Imma gonna go outside and play with the robots!
korvys: Perhaps the actual propellent load is proportionally less?
Rockario: @Laserbeaks_Fury I think that's only the Missiles?
I_Am_Clockwork: squash that bug
Pope_Dorito: What's a cicada and why does it look less dangerous than a roast chicken with legs
Chaser617: swing and a miss!
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I_Am_Clockwork: Cicada is a horrible mech
Lord_Hosk: You no steppied
drfox17: @Rhuvian that makes sense. We're trying to get our planes and ground radars to do that
I_Am_Clockwork: it's engine is too big and it has no armor or guns
hajnal_endot: oh boy i turned in to a cool stream at random
I_Am_Clockwork: Cicada is a Medium pretending to be a light
Chaser617: @I_Am_Clockwork the 3050 refit was actually usable for the Cicada
El_Spectre: Dekker, no!
I_Am_Clockwork: @Chaser617 the PPC one?
Redshift2k5: did mwo ever add melee?
I_Am_Clockwork: its ok
62MGcobra: ac's are heavy to
Chaser617: @I_Am_Clockwork Ultra AC/5 variant
Pope_Dorito: I wish battletech campaign is like mekhq. I wanna build a mercenary regiment dammit
korvys: Pure Pwnage is 15 years old this year, Cam
I_Am_Clockwork: @Chaser617 ah
I_Am_Clockwork: right
Rhuvian: @drfox17 Yeah exactly. All of this doesn't even take into account dropships, some of which are actuallly built for combat, and not mech transport. Those are brutal.
Leafwind104: That being said, 4 lrm20s on a Stalker is sweeet
hajnal_endot: i've been wanting battletech for a good while, never had the scratch tho
CaKnuckleguy: PPC's build up dead melted scrap... and a lot of heat, but you have all the time in the world to vent that heat when everyone else is dead
62MGcobra: yep
hajnal_endot: it looks Rad As Fuck
korvys: 2004
drfox17: @Rhuvian Like that thing!? that's a skyscraper!
girlpainting: becasue gameplay reasons cameron
hajnal_endot: XCOM Front Mission seems cool as hell
tehcrashxor: What have trees ever done for me?
Rhuvian: @drfox17 That one is just a transport. It can hold 12 mechs and several fighters. Union class.
FerociousPeach: i particularly enjoy the fluff reason for why missile launchers fire swarms of tiny missiles instead of one or two big ones
I_Am_Clockwork: @tehcrashxor in this game? gives a 25% damage reduction
Mysticman89: pure pwnage is barely alive these days unfortunately. Jarett streams occasionally but even thats been rare recently
Chaser617: Granted the mech I tended to play in tournaments with my friends was an ENF Enforcer....
LettingMyGutHangOut: DaBDaB
Rhynerd: @ferociouspeach what is the fluff reason?
girlpainting: let´s get dangerouse!
drfox17: @Rhuvian Are there mechs with more than 2 legs? spider mechs?
Rhuvian: @drfox17 Yeah there are tripod and quad mechs.
Rhynerd: @drfox17 one or two, at least.
I_Am_Clockwork: Eingniengnienggnngngng /ArnoldVoice
Pope_Dorito: CRAB BATTLE
62MGcobra: still 2
El_Spectre: FerociousPeach , in later years, they have a 'one big missle' variant.
I_Am_Clockwork: King Crab is bipedal
Chaser617: @LoadingReadyRun there are but none are in the game
CaKnuckleguy: King Crab has 2 legs. and 2 'pods' for more PPC's
I_Am_Clockwork: no quad mechs in this game
Leafwind104: King Crab has 2 legs, just really low arms
skiplives: I played MWO with a Centurion armed only with an ER PPC. It was a shoot once and run away kind of build.
Pope_Dorito: Aren't dropships like non-combattants because lostech
Rhynerd: But bipedal is the standard mech form due to the neural controls.
Mr_Whyt: not a lot
drfox17: there's no ai, right. that would seem.. bad for humans
Lord_Hosk: less than that
I_Am_Clockwork: There are Quad mechs in the Lore, but they are *WIERD*
CaKnuckleguy: Oh! And Elementals!
VerdaugaTiger: Other 5
MyLittlePwnyta: So... wait, is Amea just... giving up?
Rhuvian: @drfox17 Funny story there though, Mitch Gitelman, who worked on this and has been involved with Battletech for decades, HATES them. He refused to let them in the game.
FerociousPeach: the design reason was "Because it's cool" but in fluff, during the height of humanity's achievements, they'd developed anti missile systems that were so effective that they swat any individual missile with near 100% reliability, so you had to swarm to overwhelm them. but then they lost the tech to build good AMS
LettingMyGutHangOut: Counting is hard.
Rhynerd: Mech pilots have difficulty controlling mechs that have more than 2 legs.
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long_bad_cutscene: tarantual has 4
I_Am_Clockwork: There may be a few Tripod mechs, I don't recall off the top of my head
I_Am_Clockwork: I'll have to check Sarna.com
drfox17: @Rhuvian I can get that. If it breaks the "feel" then there's no point
banachspacebar: We had a leg shortage and had to start rationing
FerociousPeach: @El_Spectre yeah, the thunderbolt type, which suffered hard against AMS, but hit real nice when they got through
LettingMyGutHangOut: Well played Cori, well played
I_Am_Clockwork: whoops sarna. net
Lord_Hosk: Spiders have 10 legs, they just keep 2 hidden... UNTIL ITS TOO LATE
Chaser617: @LoadingReadyRun Turrantuala was a medium mech around 50 tons that was a quad, the Goliath was a massive I think 70 tonner quad that mounted a turret
drfox17: hahaha
LettingMyGutHangOut: Pants impossible to find.
VerdaugaTiger: Getting pants for 4 legs is tough.
Chaser617: @LoadingReadyRun Lore wise the ride was really really *rough* on the pilots in Quads
MyLittlePwnyta: No wait, I assume there's gonna be an attempt to get Kamea off-world?
MyClosePersonalFriendJohn: Haven't they shown two legs is most energy efficient?
Pope_Dorito: Don't pilots have to be half naked when piloting meks?
Rhynerd: They do.
El_Spectre: Quads are more stable and have special attacks and movement, but they mount fewer weapons.
Rhuvian: Pre-coolant vests yeah
long_bad_cutscene: most have 2, there are 4 mechs with three legs (though three of those might be apocryphal) and then there are a whole slew of quads
I_Am_Clockwork: In battletech, the mech is hooked up to your braain to use your own sense of balance to help stabalize the mech, so Most pilots have a hard time with non-bipedal desins
Vertech289: The Pilots wear Nerohelmets and "Share" their equilibrium with the mech. 4 legs was too weird for most pilots to handle
VerdaugaTiger: Quad designs are theoretically slower than a good biped design I think.
Chaser617: They are stripped and wearing what is known a 'coolent vest' to try to keep cool in the heat buildup
Master_Gunner: So was Lady Kamino going to her coronation... in her skivvies?
godpigeon: Hell cooling vests were a thing I remember from back in the day lore
62MGcobra: lower skilled pilots have 3 its easy to get that to 4, 5 is a little more work
Lord_Hosk: I mean, thats how I pilot... my minivan... and rental cars.... just strip buck naked
LettingMyGutHangOut: No.
LettingMyGutHangOut: No.no.no.no.no.
Laserbeaks_Fury: Quads are harder to knock down iirc
drfox17: no
TheAinMAP: No.
Rhynerd: A neural helmet and a coolant suit, the common setup of a mech pilot
Chaser617: basically think knitt shorts coolent vests and before 3050 or so massive R2D2 bucket helmets
nhouse1919: @master_gunner Maybe she packed a robe?
xantos69: #notmythomas
I_Am_Clockwork: @Laserbeaks_Fury yeah and cand crab skuttle sideways
Roland_Malius: That's why you Alpha with a Flashman then pop the seal and hold out a cigarette and let the ambient temperature light it for you.
Rockario: Isn't that kind of a "But tank pilots did this in real life" thing? The whole wearing few clothes during combat missions?
drfox17: that looked critical
AegeusEvander: "incapacitated" cirThink
Chaser617: @Rockario not really, actually early tanker crews actually wore bits of chainmail armor to help protect them
LettingMyGutHangOut: pastaThat
Rhuvian: Lore wise it makes sense in that you're sitting on a fusion reactor with a high operating temperature to begin with. Add weapons fire to that and you're soon scrambling to cool down.
drfox17: but if the metal is hot... you want to not have bare skin!
El_Spectre: Heck, there are mechs that specialize in peppering you with tiny hits, just hoping for a luck shot
I_Am_Clockwork: The Katapult (Catapult K2)
I_Am_Clockwork: Strips the GIANT MISSILES out for PPC launchers
AegeusEvander: no1NANI
I_Am_Clockwork: We where betrayed D:
TheWarbo: the planet is in the other direction
VerdaugaTiger: Movie time!
LettingMyGutHangOut: My righteous indignation > your mad skills.
frozenanjel: he r died
Rhynerd: That catapult was the first one I got in Mech Warrior Online.
Chaser617: @I_Am_Clockwork not the weirdest Catapult variant I've seen
62MGcobra: lrrFINE
NathanJay_GA: oh hey, a trebucket!
drfox17: "fire ze missiles"
hoktauri: That's where elementals came from
Aenir798: Mastiff will just go to a mechbase upstate, where he can frollic around with all the other mechwarriors
chesul: send everyone! EVERYONE!
El_Spectre: A Catapult w/o missles is an abomination!
drfox17: i like this limited animation
I_Am_Clockwork: @Chaser617 not learly as wierd as the MWO variant that stripped the tiny Machine Guns for fuckoff Railguns
MyLittlePwnyta: Rip in pepperonis riPepperonis
BrindleBoar: Cori "Dropship Voltron" Dickinson
Rhynerd: Should I mention the Elementals?
Vertech289: pilots are bald 0/10 lore accuracy
Pope_Dorito: I guess this was a Mastiff Loss? Kappa
drfox17: i also like that the art direction wen t with "wear clothes in the cockpit"
Rhynerd: Died as he lived: a mechwarrior.
I_Am_Clockwork: @Rhynerd I mean they don't show up for another 25 years or so in game time
long_bad_cutscene: TBH MWO has way bigger issues than canon consitency
El_Spectre: Best MWO was the LOLRaven. Super stripped down so it could mount an AC/20 and 1 ton of ammo.
Rockario: I feel like she just asked the engineers, "What do we have that we can mount 2 PPCs on?" and the Catapult was the bets they could come up with
Pope_Dorito: WOW, did they just destroyed lostech
MyLittlePwnyta: OR DID SHE?
Chaser617: @I_Am_Clockwork admittedly I don't really pay much attention to MWO
Despoiler98: WHOOPS
LettingMyGutHangOut: This just got all Game of Thrones up in here.
tehcrashxor: lrrCOW
CaKnuckleguy: Yeah. You do NOT destroy drop ships. That's uncool.
aquinas_0: elementals are painfully annoying
Despoiler98: TRAYRER
VerdaugaTiger: Destroyers and Usurpers, curse them.
Rhynerd: Destroying dropships is never cool.
Chaser617: @LettingMyGutHangOut Battletech was Game of Throning before there was a Game of Thrones
Jay_Blanc: Well, that was a short game.
Pope_Dorito: I mean wasn't the 4th succession war game of thrones before game of thrones a thing
CaKnuckleguy: That's a sin only exceeded by destoying jump ships. That's the greatest sin
Despoiler98: @CaKnuckleguy no you don't destroy Jumpships, dropships not so much
MyLittlePwnyta: So... what now?
Earthenone: am robot ok?
Rhynerd: Yeah, destroying Jumpships basically just says “I want everyone to kill me.”
CaKnuckleguy: @Despoiler98 At this era, Dropships aren't replacable either.
Pope_Dorito: Massive kingdom that plunge into feudal states competing against each other *With nefarious forces beyond the border of the known area*
Wodar9: Why did this person save us?
Chaser617: Dropships aren't nearly as irreplacable as JumpShips, expensive as sin yes though
MostCallMe__Tim: So..... starcraft?
Earthenone: can we dress them up?
Wodar9: Do you have to feed and water them every day?
phorrestgaze: I read it, but I'd forgotten
Earthenone: i saw the movie unspoiled
Pope_Dorito: How to take battletech mainstream. Have meks for meks, get special forces skirmish for the casuals.
Rhynerd: I never finished reading it.
Rockario: I'd never heardd of it before the movie, and was supremely dissapointed it wasn't a fantasy romp
Rhynerd: I started it but never finished.
Chaser617: actually lore wise and in the table top games Infantry is a *VERY* serious threat to mechs
LettingMyGutHangOut: OK
MostCallMe__Tim: Hey, we ever play Starcraft 1 or 2 on TS?
Pope_Dorito: @Chaser617 Jump infantry with satchels i'm assuming
Rhynerd: Elementals with flamers are scary too.
I_Am_Clockwork: Infantry are used in Table Top as Ambush Units and to hold territory
El_Spectre: Infantry are scary in cities
Chaser617: some yeah but usually just guys with grapling hooks
FerociousPeach: yeah, infantry were nasty to mechs if they got close
MyClosePersonalFriendJohn: @Rockario Exactly the same for me... and we made the mistake of watching it with my sensitive 5 year old... without knowing. Many tears that night.
Chaser617: climb up the mech, shove the exposives in vulnerable areas and watch limbs or weapons start to pop off
Rhynerd: Imagine infantry with powered armor and weapons designed to make your fusion reactors go “no, stop.”
Pope_Dorito: Aerotech pilots: OK guys, i watched this really old movie and I got a plan to disable these meks
I_Am_Clockwork: El_Spectre I once killed an entire lance of mechs with 5 platoons of Jumpcabable infantry with C4 packs
El_Spectre: That's what the Pirhanna and Firestarter are for :)
FerociousPeach: were esp. bad if you were playing a double blind game, they could get into cover and you'd walk your mechs right into the middle of them
I_Am_Clockwork: that was a hell of a Table Top senario
Pope_Dorito: We gonna shoot cables around those legs
El_Spectre: nice
Chaser617: @FerociousPeach oh god nightmares
Pope_Dorito: Actually battletech meks make much more sense than star wars AT-AT now I think about it
FerociousPeach: king of the battlefield, then suddenly! dudes with bombs just swarming all over you
Chaser617: yeah everyone talks about the geneically modified 8 foot tall ubermench in power armor, but normal every day schlubs with grapling hooks and explosive packs were still scary as hell to mechs
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Pope_Dorito: Man I found some neat rule books. Anyone know any virtual table top engines?
I_Am_Clockwork: The lore reason Battlemechs are so usefull in Lore is mostly thier Deplyability. A battlemech can be deplyed almost anywhere, in almost any condition, and holds a crapton of guns and armor
El_Spectre: Freakin' toads
El_Spectre: Pope_Dorito , find some people to play in person, it's even better!
hajnal_endot: oh boy, my ssd is so messed up on space that i can't try to install ffxiv on a secondary drive because i don't have the two gigs on c for the installer
I_Am_Clockwork: @Pope_Dorito check out MegaMek
Rhuvian: There's MegaMek, and
Rhuvian: Tabletop Simulator
Pope_Dorito: Eww tabletop simulator is way too fidly
I_Am_Clockwork: MegaMek is kinda complex, but if you understand the tabletop rules, it isn't that hard to figure out
I_Am_Clockwork: and has an HQ program that lests you simulate a merc company and run battles against bots
Pope_Dorito: I've been using MegaMek for a while know. THinking engines for some man to man skirmish battles
Pope_Dorito: I have tangoed with Princess Yes
I_Am_Clockwork: heh
Chaser617: surprisingly tanks atually can mount more armor than battlemechs and roughly equivelent weapons in universe, however rules wise their main disadvantage if remember it correctly is once you hit an internal structure there is always a 50/50 chance the thing just goes kaboom
Pope_Dorito: I got a behemoth in MEKHQ and my god the LRMS on this thing
MostCallMe__Tim: Mmmm.... Girl scout Samoas...
Earthenone: the "throw lots of dice" attack was always my weakness in warhammer fantasy
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FerociousPeach: @Chaser617 and if they lost all the internal structure in any one location, they were dead
El_Spectre: Ah, Dekker, RIP
asddsa28: o no
e_bloc: showlove200 always look forward to TS every week, thanks for what you do Cameron & Cori
Earthenone: iron blood orphans was my first gundams :)
I_Am_Clockwork: Save Dekker!
Rhuvian: Ironically it was Medusa that didn't make it in my first campaign.
Chaser617: save dekker!
I_Am_Clockwork: (Dekker dying in the first mission is a meme)
Pope_Dorito: Hmm I may make my own module in Vassal during my free time...but I need to fine some hex tiles
NathanJay_GA: poor dekker
Chaser617: Dekker Lives!
TheWarbo: Decker? We Shadowrun now?
aquinas_0: he draws fire well
kitthethird: Howdy Cam and Cori, howdy chat!
El_Spectre: I recall a funny reddit thread, about 4 days after release, simply called "My Dekker is alive, AMA"
NathanJay_GA: "Majesty Metals and Manufacturing", or "3M" for short Kappa
Rhuvian: HBS actually issued a challenge to prove Dekker survived a full campaign a bit after release.
Kerrisis: Pre-emotive RIP for Dekker!
Ashiok_Nightmare_Beaver: like this is someone over there's 9-5
SachielOne: Hey, where did all the factory workers go? *cloud of dust from all the cars hauling ass out*
I_Am_Clockwork: It's easy to get Dekker killed early game if you don't figure out the Evasion and Cover mechanics
Rhuvian: I've seen bicycles with more armor.
TheWarbo: I feel like this development is not a complete surprise to the person who made that announcement.
I_Am_Clockwork: and some times he just dies because the Spider is made of paper
Pope_Dorito: I guess you can say dekker got...Decked pretty hard Kappa
I_Am_Clockwork: Oh the old Highlander Burial
r_craddz: Not smelter
FerociousPeach: my avatar character only goes on about 1 mission in 4, as he can't seem to get through a mission without injury, lol
FerociousPeach: but dekker lived, lol
I_Am_Clockwork: (Highlander is a jump capable assault mech which is famous for DFA-ing lighter mechs into the ground)
Rhuvian: Some day the clans will invent an evil mech chassis on a pogo stick.
Pope_Dorito: IS DFA worth it? I never like taking the damage
I_Am_Clockwork: I normally sneak Dekker around back to shoot at the gennerator, since it puts him in less line of fire
Chaser617: @Pope_Dorito situational
Dread_Pirate_Westley: I very much like Glitch.
MyLittlePwnyta: Kathleen?
Plasterboard: DFA is only worth it if there is absolutely no other option.
I_Am_Clockwork: yeah DFA are typically supposed to be Desparation moves
Plasterboard: in this game
Rockario: I guess that's how the enemy is using their Spider, eh? Sensor locking, then letting the turrents rain fire
I_Am_Clockwork: like "That needs to die, and nothing else will do" sort of desparation
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El_Spectre: In very desperate times... like if you're about to lose 2 to 1, its maybe worth the risk
Chaser617: @Pope_Dorito there have been times where I've gone 'you know what, this pilot is screwed.... lets see if we can go out in a blaze of glory'
Chaser617: and then had the DFA end up turning the whole mission
I_Am_Clockwork: I love the Commando
Plasterboard: We're finding lots of friends here
I_Am_Clockwork: not quite as fast as most lights, but packs a hell of a punch
I_Am_Clockwork: and is decently armored
Earthenone: with the limitations of ammo, at what point do you not want to roll the dice on a shot?
Plasterboard: Why are our new friends shooting at us?
Clench_Eastwood: in mechwarrior you can put an ER PPC on a commando, and its fun!
I_Am_Clockwork: Cam, what color scheme are we going with?
Pope_Dorito: Anyone tried rogue tech yet? I find it weird how MEKHQ has a better difficulty curve than this mod.
Lord_Hosk: commandos are the sort of things you pop the heads off of,
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Lord_Hosk: like dandilions
Rhuvian: Roguetech is interesting.
El_Spectre: Glitch is the best.
Rhuvian: She's based on a real person. She's the one person I save scum for.
Clench_Eastwood: coming from mechwarrior, its interesting to me to see how the turned based version changes how the battle goes
I_Am_Clockwork: He can
long_bad_cutscene: hitash32
I_Am_Clockwork: In that Decker isn't locked into any path, given how low level he is
Plasterboard: Only if Dekker survives long enough... :P
Earthenone: dead pilots learn no skills
Herbert_Erpaderp: Damnit Cam.
oyleslyck: oh no, bad Cam!
Rockario: Punch to the knee!
FerociousPeach: that tiny mech just slapped you
arcaneemperor: oooh, you're just starting! nice :)
I_Am_Clockwork: I love that support weapons like machinegunns and small lazers are added to your melle in this
I_Am_Clockwork: it gives them some extra utility
I_Am_Clockwork: since there arn't any infantry which is what they were typyically used against in the tabletop
Clench_Eastwood: ya the head and the cockpit arent necessarily the same thing
arcaneemperor: i just enjoyed having two mechs kitted out with PPC ;D
FerociousPeach: packing a bunch of MGs onto a melee mech can be devastating in this game
I_Am_Clockwork: Particle Projection Cannon
I_Am_Clockwork: Fires Plasma ball
FerociousPeach: punch to strip the armor, then the MGs hose the internals
Rhuvian: Yep. I put machine guns only on a Grasshopper in this.
Rhuvian: One of the nastiest designs ever.
FerociousPeach: wrack up lots of crits
oyleslyck: nut punch
TheAinMAP: Rude.
Clench_Eastwood: AKA a pinpoit energy weapon than can hit from long range
Baldrash: Punch him in the nuts! Punch him in the nuts!
Ashiok_Nightmare_Beaver: REF!
El_Spectre: Johnny Cage, pilot
I_Am_Clockwork: "Maybe he loosened it for me"
Rockario: But really, aren't most weapons Particle Projection Cannons? For various types of particles lrrBEEEJ
I_Am_Clockwork: ooh back armor shot
MalBeam: aren't dick punches against the Geneva conventions?
I_Am_Clockwork: no
Earthenone: ideally your comrades bodys will be between you and the enemies
I_Am_Clockwork: There are some artillary style weapons, but not in this time period
Chaser617: wow.....
I_Am_Clockwork: (asside from actual Artillery which doesn't show up outside of story missions and some expansion mission types)
Laserbeaks_Fury: He heard you talkin shit about himn
Clench_Eastwood: so, in Battletech does every shot aim for the CT automatically or how does pinpointing work?
Balthasar_Wiseman: By the end of my campaign Dekker was my atlas driver.
Chaser617: that.... that is a bit unusual in the first mission
El_Spectre: Game's gonna crash, they never anticipated that might happen
Earthenone: i mean you blew up an entire building, i imagine it was not fully automated
Balthasar_Wiseman: My jump jet equipped Atlas
Grimmig_Dunkel: @LoadingReadyRun There was a movie in the 80s I want to say that had giant fighting robots with pilots inside and at the end the guy hotwires a fist on the ground to fire at his enemy. Any idea what that was?
drfox17: aw, that little guy is kinda cute
I_Am_Clockwork: I love that it doesn't make you wait for one mech to finish it's walk animation before you order another mech to walk
El_Spectre: Clench_Eastwood , it's random unless you aim
drfox17: please tell me the small ones don't become grossly obselete
Rockario: @Clench_Eastwood Called shots are a squad ability, each part of the mech has a percentage chance to get hit
Laserbeaks_Fury: RoboJox?
oyleslyck: robot jox
aquinas_0: yep
JonkedSA: It's a very... interesting movie
Beofryn: @Clench_Eastwood you roll to see which location you hit but it is weighted toward the CT. Headshots are extremely lucky
Nigouki: Robot Jox is the giant robot chainsaw dick movie
drfox17: he's so speedy
I_Am_Clockwork: You can make Called shots if the enemy is knocked down or shutdown due to overheat
Clench_Eastwood: ok, so you cant just focus CT on every mech you encounter then?
oyleslyck: pure 80s
Brainsample3D: Crash and Burn
drfox17: are these small mechs good for "late game"?
I_Am_Clockwork: Oh yeah, so Back shots are great, not only because rear armor is much thinner, but also because it ignores cover bonusues
drfox17: or at least having one?
El_Spectre: Clench_Eastwood No, and you probably wouldn't want to. The CT is usually heavily armored.
JonkedSA: "Apollo, the COWARD, doesn't want to fight just because he crushed a couple thousand people under his body!"
CaKnuckleguy: @Clench_Eastwood You don't choose your shots (unless you use a special power). RNG takes care of where the hits land
JonkedSA: "Now we're going to lose Alaska!"
Beofryn: you can also maneuver to the appropriate side of the mech to increase hitting certain areas
drfox17: so, alpha the enemy before they can alpha you?
Grimmig_Dunkel: @LoadingReadyRun THATS IT!!!! Thank you so much! Follow up question is it worth watching again in 2019? If so how much alcohol is required?
I_Am_Clockwork: Unfortunately Lightmechs aren't really all that useful for endgame content, outside of some gimiky senarios
Laserbeaks_Fury: I think there is a Called Shot skill mechwarriors can get
I_Am_Clockwork: they just die to easily
Fruan: The only thing better than the thumbs up fist bump is one person doing the thumbs up fist bump and the other person high fiving it
Brainsample3D: If you didn't want to get crushed you shouldn't have sat so close
Clench_Eastwood: intersting, I guess that makes sense because in mechwarrior, even when you aim at the CT you arm usually going to splash damage on other parts
I_Am_Clockwork: They would work much better if you could bring more than 4 mechs
drfox17: that sounds nice. I like the look of tha tlittle one
I_Am_Clockwork: like bring 8 lights instead of 4 heavies
Clench_Eastwood: Im guessing when you take a shot in this game its like simulating a few seconds of live action combat
Laserbeaks_Fury: I don't remember the effects being super terrible
I_Am_Clockwork: Wolfpacking light mechs works very well in tabletop, if you have skilled pilots
Lord_Hosk: I dont think I have seen RoboJox since like 1st grade
aquinas_0: Sticking to the butt of a Kodiak is pretty impossible turnbased unfortunately
BloodnBullets: oh god i found a gif, this is amazing
El_Spectre: Yeah, there's a bit of abstraction to the battle
Brainsample3D: the model FX are quite impressive, but probably need to be drunk with friends to watch it
Mox_Hagdorm: I loved that movie!!
Master_Gunner: Robert Picardo in a prawn outfit!?
Ashiok_Nightmare_Beaver: whaaat
drfox17: what
Gekyouryuu: wait, what movie?
El_Spectre: When I was 10, that was amazing
Beofryn: That movie is incredible! I loved it as a kid
Ashiok_Nightmare_Beaver: 'explorers' apparently
patrick_stonecrusher: love that movie!
Laserbeaks_Fury: Ah yes, the age of groups of kids having adventures
drfox17: look at that little mech, it looks nice
Laserbeaks_Fury: I did not know the alien was Robert Picardo
drfox17: oh no, look out
El_Spectre: Bye, Dekker
JonkedSA: Dekker survives!
Mendiloquence: What was that movie where the kid was so good at videogames the aliens made him a space pilot?
El_Spectre: yay!
El_Spectre: The Last Starfighter
drfox17: ^
Mox_Hagdorm: OMG The Last Starfighter!!
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drfox17: "Death blossom"
Mox_Hagdorm: Y'all are just laying out all of my childhood here
Earthenone: i imagine the core hook would play well with todays audiance
Laserbeaks_Fury: oh no, the CG in Last Starfighter is terrible now
aquinas_0: flight of the navigator anyone?
Obsolete2885: that is a nasty cold you have there cori :P
TheWarbo: Compliant!
7gorobei: Gary Whitta and the creator of Last starfighter are trying to get a remake going
Mox_Hagdorm: Flight of the Navigator, hell yeah
Grimmig_Dunkel: Whats that about ready player one? I terribly enjoyed the book but i havent seen the movie
JonkedSA: Ender's Game
Mox_Hagdorm: With Pee-Wee Herman as the machine
Mox_Hagdorm: Ok, here's one I *think* will be pretty obscure - Buckaroo Banzai.
aquinas_0: lol
Jay_Blanc: Last Starfighter is one of those properties that keeps going into the start of the Remake production process but never comes out the other end with a new movie.
Baldrash: @Mox_Hagdorm My mom LOVES Buckaroo Banzai.
Earthenone: center mass is usualy a good point to aim at
Mox_Hagdorm: Not here, thank God!
Jay_Blanc: Buckaroo Banzai is the most obscure movie that everyone knows about.
Mox_Hagdorm: Wait, really?
hajnal_endot: should i watch bckaroo banzai at this point?
patrick_stonecrusher: bucaroo bonzai rock star physicist
Mox_Hagdorm: I've only met one person IRL that's seen Buckaroo Banzai.
JonkedSA: Cowboy Physicist Saxophonist, iirc!
I_Am_Clockwork: Ah shadowhawk. Filled with mediochre weapons that, when taken all togeather adds up to an decent chassi
Jay_Blanc: You should always watch Buckaroo Banzai at any point.
Gekyouryuu: I still need to actually WATCH Buckaroo Bonzai sometime
iammorthos: No he's a surgeon who dresses like a cowboy
skiplives: That cast was amazing.
Mox_Hagdorm: lmao
Jay_Blanc: Cowboy Surgeon Musician.
aquinas_0: clancy brown because clancy brown
Steelwolf171: Buckaroo Banzai was heavily referenced in the tabletop version of Battletech.
skiplives: It’s great once every ten years or so.
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Jay_Blanc: It also has one of the best end credits sequences ever.
Laserbeaks_Fury: holy crap, Christopher "Doc Brown" Lloyd was Bigboote
Gekyouryuu: Buckaroo Banzai is a Phase 3 Marvel Movie, acting like the audience has seen several movies worth of backstory before this, but without any of the other movies actually existing
patrick_stonecrusher: john lithgow AND christopher lloyd!
Mox_Hagdorm: I'm legitimately surprised, based on my limited experience it's not well known.
Kramburger: So Justice Leagure?
7gorobei: the supporting cast of BB: jeff goldblum eileen barkin clancy brown carl lumbly
Rhynerd: @mox_hagdorm I used to think Clue was obscure
Grimmig_Dunkel: Mr BigBoote
Grimmig_Dunkel: Lol
Mox_Hagdorm: Then again, it's taken me a while to find my nerd home, lol.
Jay_Blanc: But which was better, Weird Science or Real Genius?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Clue was a great movie
Gekyouryuu: Birdman, get in here!
Mox_Hagdorm: Oh god, Real Genius is a treasure
Grimmig_Dunkel: @Rhynerd Its an obscure movie. Its just we are in a community that likes those sorts of things
Oatway_: one of the lead designers spent a while retweeting folk who managed to keep Dekker alive through the end of the campaign
Mithgar: Don't forget that killing their generator kills the turrets
El_Spectre: As long as they didn't try to make it too serious, a remake of The Last Starfighter could be fun
tim19862: buckaroo banzi was quite odd imo
SketchyDetails: my dekker died on the first mission :'(
aquinas_0: real genius clearly
I_Am_Clockwork: Dekkers headstone: Well he tried his best
Mox_Hagdorm: I feel like I know Ian a little better knowing those are favorites of his, lol. He's definitely my kind of nerd.
MalBeam: Keep. Dekker. Safe.
tim19862: wargames :]
patrick_stonecrusher: spacecamp
Jay_Blanc: I wouldn't make a The Last Starfighter remake. I'd just make a stand-alone sequel.
Mox_Hagdorm: Thermal Curtain Failure!
I_Am_Clockwork: Physical attacks are the best way to kill light mechs in this
I_Am_Clockwork: assuming you can close with them
Earthenone: to be fair, deckers face is the most punchable of the 4 at the bottom of the screen
aquinas_0: "Fun"
drfox17: maybe the kid from the last starfighter is now training new starfighters?
Baldrash: Fun is a word.
Fruan: RP1 has a sequel? Why?
El_Spectre: Things that kill Dekker: Small lasers. Bird strikes. Stiff breezes.
Grimmig_Dunkel: @loadingreadyrun Armada isn't a sequel FYI
Mox_Hagdorm: @Fruan Because Player Two?
I_Am_Clockwork: See, Light mechs, man
I_Am_Clockwork: not even once
amythist: Cam the only thing Dekker has done for me in any game I have played so far is die
WrathbladeKT: And there goes Dekker; lying down on the job again.
Oatway_: I like that the AI target weak links
CaKnuckleguy: Ah. The Decker Magnet is working according to plan
Laserbeaks_Fury: I will say, despite it's faults, the one thing about RP1 that rings super true is that in a virtual world with unlimited potential, it was filled with a bunch of pop culture IPs
TheWarbo: they were be-steppied
NathanJay_GA: but the sign said "NO STEP"!
asddsa28: FAN FIC
Jay_Blanc: Not really a sequel, just the second book from someone who only really had one book in them. And also totally not a direct lift of the premise of Terry Pratchett's "Only You Can Save Mankind".
TriggerHappy2Pi: Oof I read both RPO and Armada in soon after they came out when I had what I would describe as "worse" taste than now. I really liked them at the time now looking back on it kind of hurts
Ashiok_Nightmare_Beaver: rp1 is more... self fellating
Chaser617: Dekker Lives!
JonkedSA: The Westinghouse Game
OriginalGarwulf: Armada would have been a serviceable SF book if it hadn't had all the pop culture references.
CulturalGeekGirl: God the game design in RPI is so terrible I'm gonna die mad about it
JonkedSA: err.. The Westing Game?
OriginalGarwulf: They drag it down in a way that doesn't really happen with Ready Player One.
aquinas_0: they do get toxic
HesGotNoPants: is this what you were streaming at home cam?
randomino5: RP1 reminds me of that sentence in Plato's parable of the cave that's like "shapes are held in front of the fire and projected onto a wall" except it's marketing people waving pop culture icons in our face and saying "Do you like this? Huh? How about this? You love it don't you, you little piggies?"
Wodar9: Who did your financing?
El_Spectre: Drowning in debt? Why didn't Darius warn us?
Wodar9: Review board? sounds devastating
Wodar9: How many stars did we get?
TheWarbo: I feel like the THIS IS A LORE TERM font is a bit much
Oatway_: """"Own""""
randomino5: Jumpships = lost tech yes
El_Spectre: It's to indicate that it is a link
long_bad_cutscene: jumpships are borderline lostech
chesul: more like ferries, you park your ship on them and they take you far away.
long_bad_cutscene: but they are still being produced in small numbers in all successor states
SachielOne: Swinging at a jumpship is a good way to get every mech in the system on your ass.
TheWarbo: Ahh, makes sense, but I still think it's a bit much, with both the font weight and the color.
Rockario: Are Jumpships affilitaed with ComStar, or are they a seperate thing
Rockario: ?
Vertech289: Shoot at a jumpship and suddenly your planet is cut off from civilization
randomino5: That's the HPGs
aquinas_0: but it takes an entire successor state because techbase
randomino5: @Rockario
randomino5: Wait, is it HPG?
I_Am_Clockwork: Repair doesn't reatached blown off limbs
I_Am_Clockwork: iirc
randomino5: the interstellar telegraph system
HesGotNoPants: so drop ship drops to planets, jump ship jumps to light speed. do I have that right?
Rockario: Okay, I wasn't sure if the jumpships were tied into that as well
Kerrisis: Aren't the Jumpships run by ComStar, and no one wants to risk kicking them in the nuts?
FerociousPeach: @randomino5 yes, HyperPulse Generators
long_bad_cutscene: but modifying them, building new types or military grade one sis lostech
I_Am_Clockwork: Jumpships are run by indipendant captains for the most part
uroboros_of_old: Jumpships can be affiliated with any faction or free agents
long_bad_cutscene: no hpgs are run by comstar
I_Am_Clockwork: ComStar just owns the Phones
uroboros_of_old: Yep
Kerrisis: Ah.
Rhynerd: and Earth
Jay_Blanc: In retrospect, the *book* Ready Player One was marketed to be this scrappy guy publishing this super niche book and oh there's an ARG where you can win the Back to the Future Car... But was totally a finance backed business plan project from the start.
chesul: gunnery is important if I remember correctly, for the multi-targeting.
Rhynerd: Comstar owns Terra, right?
FerociousPeach: toughness does nothing for the mech itself
Rockario: ComStar owns the only phones, and thus also are the basis for modern currency
I_Am_Clockwork: yeah
FerociousPeach: it's litterally just how tough the pilot is
I_Am_Clockwork: ComStar are the "protectors" of terra
aquinas_0: is comstar evil at this point in the timeline?
randomino5: @Rhynerd Yeah
aquinas_0: i can't remember
Talin06: Cori is on the mark
I_Am_Clockwork: mostly because none of the big players want to lose out on sweet space phones, so they leave Comstar alone
SachielOne: Very evil.
Master_Gunner: define "evil"
HesGotNoPants: @randomino5 spoilers
Jay_Blanc: ComStar is also this early 90s thing of when 'The Phone Company' was still a thing.
I_Am_Clockwork: @aquinas_0 they don't think they are evil :p
randomino5: it's a spoiler that ComStar owns Terra in 3025?
I_Am_Clockwork: but ComStar wants to guide humanity and rule from the shadows for now
aquinas_0: comstar's still hiding their military at this point i think
Rhynerd: Comstar is as evil as a corporation that sees itself as a bit a religion too at this point.
Rockario: This makes that mission in MechCommander 2 where you sabotage/comandeer an HPG kindof a big deal
I_Am_Clockwork: they start being a bigger problem after the Clans are dealt with
Oatway_: yeah they've poked at skills a few times
I_Am_Clockwork: @randomino5 no it's common knowledge
FerociousPeach: @randomino5 no, but the fact that they have a massive military is still secret
AgentMagicMaster: Yes, they did a big rebalance with the DLC release
uroboros_of_old: More specifically the word of blake
62MGcobra: yay dark age
Rhynerd: Yeah, the Word of Blake were not good guys.
aquinas_0: by the time you get to WoB it's basically stupider tekpriests
randomino5: @I_Am_Clockwork @FerociousPeach I'm not sure why @HesGotNoPants said spoiler to me
Rockario: Was Word of Blake a ComStar thing?
randomino5: WoB's a breakaway
uroboros_of_old: Splinter group
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62MGcobra: a splinter cell really
TheWarbo: Word of Blake was a ComStar splinter sect that didn't like the idea that communication technology wasn't fundamentally religious
Rockario: I guess the XBox mech game didn't give me too much of that backstory
FerociousPeach: Medusa: "Hi boss! I heard that someone good took an SRM to the head and has to nap in medbay for a few days! I'm ready to sub in!"
drfox17: okay, adulting done, now i have warm apple pie
Rockario: MechAssault, that was the name
uroboros_of_old: They reformed to help deal with the clans and the the old school hard liners went all fuck everyone
FerociousPeach: oh man, my avatar was out for 96 days after the first mission, lol
aquinas_0: @Rockario the XBox mech games were a... thing, fun though
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FerociousPeach: that fucking shadowhawk punched out (actually) my CT, then died to a mlaser shot, lol
Rockario: @aquinas_0 Coming from MW4 they felt very "console game" in comparison
randomino5: What's the battle in FRR where shit went down between ComStar and the clans
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Zyme86: Ooooh is this battletech or roguetech? If this isn't roguetech omg it makes this amazing game that much better
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randomino5: It's Battletech Lore Trivia Night on LRR
FerociousPeach: @randomino5 Tukayyid
Rockario: And I'm all for it
uroboros_of_old: Proxy battle for terra
drfox17: i think that last dlc helped with that
drfox17: for xcom 2
randomino5: @FerociousPeach Correct! 5 points
drfox17: bradford became an 80s action hero
uroboros_of_old: Com star win clans stop for 15 years
uroboros_of_old: Clans win they get terra
Laserbeaks_Fury: That's a pretty slick system
randomino5: QUESTION 2: Which mech designs were changed because they were ripoffs of Robotech?
randomino5: 3 points for each correct answer
TheWarbo: Nooooo don't attack the Magistracy
TheWarbo: Those my boys
DaMullet14: ma JIS tra see
Rhynerd: Mage Tracy?
Laserbeaks_Fury: Magic Tracey of Cannibus
Mox_Hagdorm: Ugh
Rockario: Mogic Tracy of Katy Bleeple Pasta
TheWarbo: I said earlier stream that they were my favorite faction because I love the way it sounds. This is torture. :-(
Gekyouryuu: Magic Tracy, Wizard Private Eye
Mox_Hagdorm: Please stop saying pus, heh
SketchyDetails: junip ship
Mox_Hagdorm: Giant robot suit + can of pus? (now I'm doing it lmao)
drfox17: don't worry, you can spin this into a ned kelly style story!
zed_alpha: What background did we pick for our BattleTechnologist?
devin_yesthatdevin: "In order to get ahead in mercenary work, you should work for ExPOsUrE."
Mox_Hagdorm: * = can, not +
FerociousPeach: @randomino5 Marauder, Locust, Warhammer, Battlemaster, Phoenix Hawk, Rifleman, Archer are the ones i remember :)
FerociousPeach: you know, the awesome looking ones, lol
I_Am_Clockwork: like if you pull off those AutoCannons, the long barrels will go away
aquinas_0: shadowhawk, maurader, locust.... and beat to it
I_Am_Clockwork: Locust
Mox_Hagdorm: OMG that's awesome
I_Am_Clockwork: Awesome and I think a Hunchback
TheWarbo: oh wow it's virtual TTSF
FerociousPeach: i think the Wasp and Stinger were in there too
Rockario: You paint minis and then tell your engineers "Make it like this"
drfox17: what's that tiny one?
FerociousPeach: basically, everything that was in the 3rd ed box set, lol
drfox17: again, cute
Laserbeaks_Fury: Even Picard had miniatures of ships in his ready room
randomino5: @FerociousPeach Okay okay, you get all the points, you win :p
MechaKuuga: Is that an atlas?
Grimmig_Dunkel: @loadingreadyrun if it's anything like how I paint my minis they'd be all primer black
Oatway_: yang quietly goes on future indeed and linkedin
FerociousPeach might still collect sourcebooks when i find them in used bookstores ;)
hawkfalcon8: Hey... Cam and Cori! How’s it been going? What game is this
62MGcobra: yes atlas
zed_alpha: cheer100 You can paint everything metallic, and not only that, but metallic in LOUD COLORS. You want solid gold stompy death machines? OF COURSE YOU DO! You can do that! Because I'm a horrible, tasteless hobgoblin, everything's black and safety cone orange in my game.
Laserbeaks_Fury: "No sir, I didn't see you playing with you dolls again, sir."
drfox17: I feel like... there are a lot of fighter pilots who would love to do this, and would absolutely walk into a hangar and demand this
zed_alpha: I picked the Tree of Gondor.
zed_alpha: for my crest.
phorrestgaze: the profile view was always wrong, forgot to rotate :/
Leafwind104: I like the tree
I_Am_Clockwork: You can technically mod in your own crests
I_Am_Clockwork: but it's kind of a pain to do
TheWarbo: what's that logo to the right of our current one; I know I've seen it before
drfox17: "No, i want the red stripes at 37 degree angle!"
CranstonSnord: Paradox did actually buy HBS
Rhynerd: Paradox and Playboy. That’s a title to something I bet
I_Am_Clockwork: rather, you stopped the bank from giving you worse rates
Rockario: Clicked the "Strongly worded letter" button
El_Spectre: zed_alpha in MWO, I rocked a candy cane / zebra stripe color scheme :)
sniperserpent: oh no poor medusa
I_Am_Clockwork: In lore, most mechs in this erra are owned by the pilot
Laserbeaks_Fury: "I Main a Locust"
I_Am_Clockwork: not the company
DoctorOfBeard: Decker has a note
sniperserpent: to be fair the spider is also a death trap
I_Am_Clockwork: to keep up with the whole Feudal thing
FerociousPeach: it's not even the locust with missiles, lol
hawkfalcon8: Hey guys! What game is this? I just got here and heard warhammer 40k so I’m listening🙃
phorrestgaze: we're just borrowing it
long_bad_cutscene: yeah, that really changes after the upcoming 4th succ war
FerociousPeach: it's basically there to absorb an autocannon round
drfox17: battletech!
I_Am_Clockwork: Spider not really all that more deadly to pilot thant the locust tbh
aquinas_0: does this game give us any urban mechs? hopefully neon pink urban mechs?
long_bad_cutscene: arguably its in the process of changing in this era witht he discovery of the helm memory core
Ashiok_Nightmare_Beaver: Dekker comes back - Who adjusted my seat and where is my manga collection?
TheWarbo: But do you pronounce LLaser like the Spanish LL?
Ashiok_Nightmare_Beaver: RUh Roh
Havok4: Oh we are in that timeline. That tracks
aquinas_0: Yaser?
Havok4: Going to go invest in rad jacket futures.
sniperserpent: ah the most deadly mech in the game, a Locust with reduced armour
drfox17: aw, that thing looks neat too
DahmrMCM: Some japanese bike gang is in for a fuckin TIME
phorrestgaze: we're definitely in the future, cyberpunk 2020 needed a rebranding before the game for obvious reasons.
drfox17: why do i think the tiny ones are nice looking
SachielOne: I have a vacation I ned to cancel.
uroboros_of_old: So fun fact I own all the novels
hawkfalcon8: Hey guys! What game is this? I just got here and heard warhammer 40k so I’m listening🙃
Earthenone: !game
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Zyme86: I'm playing through roguetech and this is sooo much differnt, I forgot just how much
SachielOne: !game
aquinas_0: those are surprisingly readable
uroboros_of_old: They are
aquinas_0: so are the shadowrun books, if you've ever looked at them
uroboros_of_old: Also I life they you get every side perspective
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hawkfalcon8: Thanks @earthenone
Rockario: Battletech isn't a game of 1-shot 1-kill anyway
El_Spectre: Unless you're shooting a Long Tom
FerociousPeach: @Rockario unless you're shooting an AC20 at a locust :)
Beofryn: I hate it when a light just hangs out in a mineral field and gets so much harder to hit than when it moves all out
long_bad_cutscene: with the power of god and anime on my side this mlaseer battery will hit
uroboros_of_old: I loved clan jade falcon back in the day
Mysticman89: jousting with mechs could be fun
drfox17: monster hunter?
Earthenone: i love the insect glaive myself
Grimmig_Dunkel: @loadingreadyrun do guns that don't use energy have an ammo limit?
karmakamikaze: I started writing a world with mech jousting. It is fun!
I_Am_Clockwork: Remember that Imperial Guard unit that rode Cats and Stuck metlabomb lances into tho things?
drfox17: i like these little ones
Mithgar: Is there a real-world military unit that uses the descriptor of "Lance" like the Mechwarrior games do?
TheWarbo: yeah, you can see ammo above cori's head
I_Am_Clockwork: i don't think they were ever in the tabletop
drfox17: bye little one :(
I_Am_Clockwork: Yeah AC and SRM weapons are cannonically vehicle killers
Earthenone: if they dident before they do now
El_Spectre: Vehicles have an ablative interior
zed_alpha: cheer100 "While you were partying it up on New Avalon, I studied the autocannon, honing my skill and senses into the perfect weapon. I also partied it up on New Avalon, though. I mean, I'm a Baron. I've got a certain social caché to maintain, after all."
long_bad_cutscene: imean, ithe magistracy, so those were men, and therefore basically slaves
I_Am_Clockwork: crew
Icelight: Is the crumple zone their chest?
Earthenone: pride51 lrrHEART
drfox17: oh no, i felt worse for the machine, it had a neato design. the pilot was the squishy vulnerable bit
Nigouki: ribs are compressible!
FerociousPeach: "Life is cheap, Battlemechs are expensive!"
I_Am_Clockwork: Leave the Meat, save the metal
zed_alpha: I always just like stomping on tanks, anyway.
zed_alpha: it's why I bring along light mechs.
long_bad_cutscene: i mean, sunder certain circumstances chest compressions are a good thing
Oatway_: good job newbie
Oatway_: keeping Dekker's spirit going
El_Spectre: Damnit, rookie
Pal_Friendpatine: “Bomb Blanket” good band name
SirFozzie: We need to give you guys a Steiner Scout Lance not this real scout lance thing ;0
sniperserpent: the shadowhak's weapons are pretty long range though arne't they? LRMs and AC5s
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FerociousPeach: @SirFozzie 3 Atlases and a Battlemaster? :)
El_Spectre: Hey, an Atlas can scout
I_Am_Clockwork: don't forget to use the Resolv abilities
I_Am_Clockwork: Vangaurd and... whatever the one is that lets you Call Shot
RomanGoro: Question: how do you miss with a laser?
TheWarbo: Slayzer
SirFozzie: Of course not. 2 Atlas, a Battlemaster and a Zeus. We are vcivilized in Steiner land
sniperserpent: man it must suck to drive a tank at this point in battletech
drfox17: look at that thing go!
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zed_alpha: The tiny sound, muffled by layer after layer of ablative armor, of a crack team of Magistracy tank operators gently crapping their fatigues as a pair of mechs just hop over to them and miss at point blank range repeatedly.
FerociousPeach: right right, my mistake, light lances have 3 atlases, scout's only have 2 :)
I_Am_Clockwork: time to squash a bug
Mithgar: Release! The BABY!!!
SirFozzie: Street MECH FIGHTER!
drfox17: aw, bye little one
Zyme86: Creulty to small mechs
Mox_Hagdorm: Kicky blammo!
I_Am_Clockwork: Finish Him!
I_Am_Clockwork: Test your might
Rourke9: Inspired is when your resolve bar is at least half full, it gives a blanket accuracy bonus
Oatway_: punch your mechfist into the cockpit to find the off switch
zed_alpha: on the other hand, I love killing Firestarters 'cause those bastards deserve what they get
NathanJay_GA: medusa shakes the spider's hand to get rid of the fluid
El_Spectre: "There's the wrong way, and there's the Steiner way. Which is just the wrong way, but with lots of assault mechs"
aquinas_0: nothing sadder than blowing ammo up stepping on a hover tank
Mithgar: Turns out, the back holds up the rest of the human.
Leafwind104: LRM 10
Grimmig_Dunkel: @loadingreadyrun what's the trade-off between high heat and low heat mechs?
I_Am_Clockwork: Always use more SRM 6's and Medium lazers
Leafwind104: or ac/5
SirFozzie: There's the right way, the worng way, and the Clan way. The Clan way usually is the creepiest way.
Mox_Hagdorm: Oh God, I coughed and pulled a rib a few years ago. I thought I was gonna die.
aquinas_0: ammo vs exploding?
aquinas_0: so exploding vs exploding
long_bad_cutscene: also they explode less
I_Am_Clockwork: High heat means you hit reall hard, but often can't use all your weapons all the time
SirFozzie: Mechs can take heat damage from overheating
sniperserpent: Energy weapons also have way more damage per tonne
sniperserpent: but then you overheat
zed_alpha: There's the right way, wrong way, and the Blakist way. The Blakist way is the wrong way, but with more money and weird Space Catholic guilt.
Earthenone: i like the contract negotion system, i wish more games let you do that kind of thing
I_Am_Clockwork: Also some maps give you extra heat
SirFozzie: And Blake's will, @zed_alpha . Don't forget Blake's Will
I_Am_Clockwork: like Deserts or Lunar environments
zed_alpha: well, that's a given.
aquinas_0: re: space guilt
Mithgar: I tend to like adding a melee weapon to the arm of any pure ammo-based mechs.
sniperserpent: Then you have missiles, which are high heat and have ammo, and are still very good
SirFozzie: LRM spam=MOAR DAKKA!
Oatway_: roll enough dice, you're gonna hit the head a couple times
Zyme86: Knock down spam
I_Am_Clockwork: LRM spam is a good way to knock down enemy mechs
zed_alpha: flamer spam is just point blank fun
sniperserpent: it's bs when the AI does it because they get to fire missiles at you from their second lance while you engage the first
Earthenone: eww, detroit
I_Am_Clockwork: Flamer Spam is sort of like playing Blue in MTG. You don't get to play
Zyme86: yaaaa...detroit do you want to leave your mechs for like two minutes and be set up on cinder blocks
SachielOne: OOoh. Bad part of space. Went to hell after all the mech factories moved to the Mexico sector.
zed_alpha: until you run out of flamer fuel, and then you're fucked so very sideways, @I_Am_Clockwork
SirFozzie: Pirates? In my Stystem? It's more likely then you think
corpocracy: Are you guys... fighting yourselves?
I_Am_Clockwork: thats what this one medium laser is for :p
drfox17: ooo, there's a wiki
DoctorOfBeard: so, the pirates payed you to come here, and now that your here you'r looking for work...
I_Am_Clockwork: @corpocracy just working for both sides
I_Am_Clockwork: that Merc life
TheWarbo: Ass As Sin Ate
Earthenone: i mean they had to hire someone, they just lost a squad to pirates
SirFozzie: Merc Life. This is Basic Mechanomics. Bay-Baysic Mechanomics, Merc Life. I'm unhittable but I'm forcing you to shoot me. (Ok, I'm an old wrestling fan)
I_Am_Clockwork: This is actually fairly common stuff in Battletech in this era
Zyme86: You know how this game got better. A free mass overhaul called Roguetech came out and it is amazing
SirFozzie: There are mods out there, Roguetech is very good, but SUPER complicated. I prefer Extended 3025, which just adds more of the era's mechs (like the Archer)
El_Spectre: sorry. SirFozzie , I just can't see it.
SirFozzie: @El_Spectre I C what you did there.
El_Spectre: It wasn't that clever, but I only have 5 moves, so...
SirFozzie: yeah, but I didn't want to make fun of you, didn't want you to think you deserved an attitude adjustment.
aquinas_0: oh goody urban mech is actually in this
El_Spectre: STF(u) :)
aquinas_0: just for the required color scheme and hardmode
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SirFozzie: LOL
El_Spectre: Sadly, still no CattleMaster. It's my favorite mech.
Rockario: Oo, Republic Commando on GoC
Rockario: I remember the trailer for that game in another SW game. Battlefront 2?
I_Am_Clockwork: I really enjoyed Republic Commando when it came out
aquinas_0: @El_Spectre for when your aurochs goes on walkabout
El_Spectre: Absolutely. They make a mini, I've just never gotten around to ordering it.
TheAinMAP: I played through "Republic Commando" several times.
I_Am_Clockwork: The first two missions are great, but the last one kind of runs out of steam, imo
El_Spectre: When Ironwinds took over the FASA / Ral Partha molds, if you wanted something obscure, it cost extra, because they had to go make them first.
uroboros_of_old: Ok so anyone else think they should make a battle tech show to fill the void when game of thrones ends
I_Am_Clockwork: Yes
uroboros_of_old: I would watch it
I_Am_Clockwork: ^
I_Am_Clockwork: Heck, maybe if Dune does well enough
SirFozzie: There is a long running twitch series which is a Mechwarrior campaign
El_Spectre: It'd be insanely expensive, unfortunately
SirFozzie: And there was a Battletech Cartoon.
I_Am_Clockwork: The Battletech Cartoon is Canon btw
Rockario: Yeah, how was the cartoon?
uroboros_of_old: Ya...
I_Am_Clockwork: horrible
I_Am_Clockwork: but in a fun way
uroboros_of_old: It was a thing
El_Spectre: Eh, it was aimed at kids. It was awesome when I was one
Rockario: Maybe better to ask, what was the cartoon trying to be?
aquinas_0: it was better than standing in line for dig dug?
uroboros_of_old: It was fun and the 3D was good for the day
Pope_Dorito: Oh my god, there was an animated series
I_Am_Clockwork: The Cartoon is cannon, in that they decided it was an In-Universe propaganda cartoon about a "real" merc unit
El_Spectre: It's in-universe propaganda, in Battletech :)
McEvedy: The cartoon is cannon as a show.
Rockario: Oh my god
El_Spectre: What the mechanical person said :)
uroboros_of_old: But it was only loosely based on the source material
I_Am_Clockwork: That is the best way to handle retcons, imo
Pope_Dorito: You know, the Battletech intro scene would make a good intro for an actual live action battletech show *wink wink netflix*
aquinas_0: nah
aquinas_0: netflix intros are getting to old, we need synth-bass
aquinas_0: and explosions
aquinas_0 jokes
Rockario: I like the Battletech intro because it literally gives you the whole universe's setup
I_Am_Clockwork: Heck, just make a movie by stringing togeather all of the Mechwarrior intros
I_Am_Clockwork: :p
Pope_Dorito: Look when is netflix gonna get back to me about my transformers x battletech crossover
El_Spectre: Battletech has a history of that. The technical readouts explain mistakes in earlier versions as in-lore editors making mistakes. When some mech designs had to change for legal reasons, they handled it as a 'field upgrade" in the books
McEvedy: If i remember correctly, fasa was challenged to a trial of refusal over it.
TheWarbo: "Check it out, this giant 'battlemech' vehicle turns into a robot"?
El_Spectre: Someone re-did one of the old MW intros... 2, maybe? a few years back. It's great.
Pope_Dorito: *Our pilots complained the mechs look too anime so we changed the design*
Rockario: @I_Am_Clockwork Well, they're all here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnBjjeNNoF8
El_Spectre: The one with the Thor in the desert
Oatway_: we're the good guys!
DaMullet14: For the first time, we're killing a person
DaMullet14: We definitely haven't been doing that before
Pope_Dorito: "We need you to assinate a captain" *Aight get the LANCE* not like that...
DoctorOfBeard: that was a whole body sneeze
Grimmig_Dunkel: what is the deal with Dekker? why isn't he going on missions?
nhouse1919: But is this one person a bad guy?
I_Am_Clockwork: This has been fun. I always love sharing my love of Battletech lore with people
El_Spectre: He's napping
uroboros_of_old: Who would be best to play victor davion in live action?
aquinas_0: he went slightly squished
DaMullet14: nhouse1919 I bet if he sees us he'll try to shoot us, that seems pretty bad
I_Am_Clockwork: @uroboros_of_old Tom Hanks?
uroboros_of_old: Way to tall
I_Am_Clockwork: like Young Tom Hanks
sniperserpent: i think i speak for all of us when i say i expect decker has a long and fruitful life ahead of him
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zed_alpha: Tharkad?
DoctorOfBeard: retire to a nice farm planet
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zed_alpha: It's either Tharkad or New Avalon.
sniperserpent: oh they have a striker
uroboros_of_old: ^
Rockario: I like the Mech Commander sensors. Depending on the skill of the pilot you could get different levels of detail
uroboros_of_old: New avilon
zed_alpha: fuck, that's
long_bad_cutscene: tukkayyid
I_Am_Clockwork: Tykiad
zed_alpha: is that
DaMullet14: I love that in turn based games enemies just kind of stand there nonplussed as the ground erupts in flames beneath them
zed_alpha: Tukayyad?
Eyclonus: Tukkayyid
SachielOne: Battle of Tukayyid
long_bad_cutscene: ooof
long_bad_cutscene: big ooof
aquinas_0: with all the crags
Eyclonus: #clanwolfdidnothingwrong
Despoiler98: slytqWTF slytqWTF slytqWTF slytqWTF slytqFacepalm slytqFacepalm slytqFacepalm
randomino5: "Tukayyid was an arid world composed mostly of large grassy plains, being held by agricultural companies. Several religions built their monasteries in isolated places across the planet. For centuries the planet had a small population, without a centralized government."
randomino5: Sounds nice
aitsu100: bought a farm up state
Despoiler98: I hate both of you slytqItsfine slytqGlare
SirFozzie: Well, it's official now witht he latest fiction novel that Clan Wolf is NOT ilClan ;)
randomino5: It's still there, just... mostly recently on fire.
Eyclonus: Comstar are the real terrorists
uroboros_of_old: Or under heavy guard
Eyclonus: Well I suppose Jihad era thats not ironic
Rockario: The Clans are, like, 100 years away right? I'm sure life expectancy isn't *that* high in space future
aquinas_0: i'm still surprised that wolverine was never pulled in as an evil in a can
SirFozzie: Rockario 25 years
long_bad_cutscene: yes
Eyclonus: I love the intro to this game
uroboros_of_old: Did great for the farm land
Rockario: @SirFozzie Welp
I_Am_Clockwork: (shhhh no one's supposed to know that Comstar has ARMIES of lostech)
I_Am_Clockwork: Ghost Bear was not good bois
zed_alpha: One of the things I wish this game did more was some more background-specific events. I like playing Solaris gladiators, and it'd have been nice to meet a fan.
Eyclonus: Ghost Bear became a dominion
I_Am_Clockwork: anymore than any clan
uroboros_of_old: Yes
El_Spectre: You say "field full of wreckage". I say "Recycling opportunity"
SirFozzie: Ghost Bear Dominion, part of the Rasalhague domoinion)
Rhynerd: They are!
long_bad_cutscene: ghost bear is now primarily viking and skull themed
Eyclonus: Wolf picked both philosophies
McEvedy: Yes
long_bad_cutscene: but they still alive
Eyclonus: Snow Raven
zed_alpha: Ghost Bear Dominion, they conquered Rasalhague and kinda assimilated.
I_Am_Clockwork: they just were honorable, and settled down in Rasshague and declanned first
uroboros_of_old: ^
I_Am_Clockwork: Clan Wold is the Shonen Protagonist clann
DaMullet14: once you go viking, you never go biking
I_Am_Clockwork: the "good guys" insofar as any clan is a good guy
Eyclonus: Ghost Bear were the only clan to embrace the concept of families, which made them less alien to IS peoples than the rest of the clans
sniperserpent: there weren't los lines there no
SirFozzie: Once you ally with Snow Raven, your allies will start misbehavin.
DaMullet14: that's not even true there's a huge cycling culture in northern europe
SirFozzie: (3145 Spoilers)
Eyclonus: So Shonen, they ended up leading both sides of the Clan divide
Despoiler98: I'm fighting of Rasshague in MWO RIGHT NOW they used to have Tukayyid As their capitol and then slytqItsfine :(
Rockario: That explains why I liked preferred Clan Wolf as a kid :P
Mox_Hagdorm: If woman can survive?
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I_Am_Clockwork: The 3rd Expansion for this is supposed to update the timeline to around 3035
Leafwind104: We really need a targeting button
Rockario: Are we talking about the garbled cover, or the folky christian original?
I_Am_Clockwork: 4th Succession war
HorusFive: Ironically
Banrael: cheer100 Ah, good bad old music.
SirFozzie: Eyclonius: The homeworld clans are now "Here be dragons again" because they blowed themselves up (and each other) real real real REAL good.
sniperserpent: that is one durable spider
aquinas_0: at least its better than africa
Pika500: Oh wow! One of my favourite MTG streamers are streaming the game that i play when it’s not MTG <3
aquinas_0: god that song won't go away
CopperAstronaut: cheer100 cheer100 cheer100 cheer100 cheer100
Eyclonus: @SirFozzie yes, but we could see a resurgence after the 2nd Dark Age
Angnor33: Just wait 30 years, then you can see that human free future.
hawkfalcon8: well according to the UN we might have about 11 years until we reach a Ready Player One situation
Eyclonus: Isn't that where everything stopped
NathanJay_GA: that spider refuses to die
I_Am_Clockwork: Alright, this has been a blast, but I got to drive home. See you all later. Stay well, friends
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Mox_Hagdorm: Africa is waaaay better. There's no comparison.
Rockario: It posits a sweet future that the Christian god finds a bit icky, so he wipes us all out and starts over
drfox17: that was a lot of rockets
Eyclonus: @NathanJay_GA must be Australian
Leafwind104: oh at least that's not the lrm boat thing
zed_alpha: cheer100 I think my favorite clan is Clan Jade Refuses To Quit When They've Been Beaten Into Several Bloody Pulps And Then Antagonizes A Major Mercenary Corporation For Decades On End.
I_Am_Clockwork waves
Leafwind104: or the srm boat
NathanJay_GA: that seems right
Eyclonus: @zed_alpha Jade Assholes?
SirFozzie: Clan Jade Mongol Zed? :)
aquinas_0: @Mox_Hagdorm I may just be massively massively over exposed at this point
zed_alpha: @Eyclonus Clan Jade At Least We're Not The Smoke Jaguars
randomino5: LUL
Eyclonus: Clan Jade "we;re the bottom line of ethical standards in the clan"
sniperserpent: hey someone finally exploded
Mox_Hagdorm: @aquinas_0 That's fair, it's pretty overplayed at this point.
SirFozzie: @zed_alpha How dare you speak of the ilClan that way (I'm serious, they are the ilClan as of one week ago in the fiction)
niccus: there's always the Love Psych version
Eyclonus: Smoke Jaguars sucked
zed_alpha: look, that's between her and Eileen
patrick_stonecrusher: Love Psych 100%
randomino5: @niccus It's so good
El_Spectre: well, evidently not "between"...
Rhynerd: Too la ro ya
tim19862: love shack is a good song with complex implications
Leafwind104: nice hit
NathanJay_GA: from hell's heart...
Eyclonus: Clan Widow'ss only noteworthy aspect is their absorption into Wolf gave us Natasha Kerensky
zed_alpha: Clan Jade "Look, One Of These Times The Spheroids Won't Totally Expect Us To Inevitably Break Yet Another Peace Treaty, Then They're REALLY In Trouble"
DaMullet14: the best way to listen to Love Shack is Love Psych off of Mouth Silence
Leafwind104: Glitch is great
drfox17: this lady loves her job
randomino5: @tim19862 is it not just a song about where teenagers go to bang?
SachielOne: Oh god. Is that Screwball's VA?
aquinas_0: smoke jaguar - actually very much dead
zed_alpha: Glitch just loves killing people.
Eyclonus: Natasha "Murder Granny" Kerensky
zed_alpha: Honestly, the more I hear her throughout the game, the more I prefer Behemoth's quiet professionalism.
SirFozzie: Initial clans: Warden: Wolf , Crusader: Jade Falcon, Ghost bear (they became more Wardenish), Nova Cat (became lots more wardenish), Steel Viper (became very very VERY dead after very very insane
Mox_Hagdorm: I *like* Love Shack, but as this weird curiosity of a song.
SirFozzie: @aquinas_0 Have you read forever faithful? Very much wrong you are ;)
zed_alpha: Clan Ghost Scorpion, who were just REALLY HIGH all the time.
Pope_Dorito: I wish there's a partial cover system
Oatway_: Battletech feels way more attrition based
aquinas_0: @SirFozzie I have not read that one
Eyclonus: Wolf-in-Exile was Crusader or Warden?
aquinas_0: ok
aquinas_0: that was released like 5 days ago
SirFozzie: @aquinas_0 what's the channels view on spoilers? I'm serious.. because that book declared things
uroboros_of_old: Warden
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Rockario: This is more of a turn-based abstraction of run-and-gun combat, compared to X-Com's Cover-based shooter
SirFozzie: @eyclonus: They're the Warden breakway from Clan Wolf when the assholes took over
Despoiler98: To be fair your not a person in BT your a person a giant TANK so I think attritrion is warranted
aquinas_0: this is supposed to be the spoiler stream
sniperserpent: losing mechs is also less big on the campaign level then losing a high level soldier
Juliamon: SirFozzie This particular stream allows game spoilers, but if it's not relevant to the game you should probably err on the side of caution
NathanJay_GA: yeah, ive always considered talking sim fair game for anything
NathanJay_GA: well then
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Despoiler98: Having Pilot KILLED can be Campaign ending
zed_alpha: which is kinda ironic, considering the tagline of the game: "Meat is cheap, 'mechs are expensive."
Earthenone: the gun that shoots guns, as it were
Pope_Dorito: I thought it was the opposite considering how rare mechs are in this setting
Angnor33: Gunstars?
Rhynerd: Likyhe helm core place?
Despoiler98: I GOT THE LAMEST MECH FROM THAT MISSION
sniperserpent: not dekker though, may he rest in peice
Despoiler98: So MAD
sniperserpent: It's not random, despoiler
Despoiler98: slytqItsfine slytqItsfine slytqItsfine slytqItsfine
Pope_Dorito: @sniperserpent *Rest in pieces*
Eyclonus: Kill the Meat! Save the metal!
Rhynerd: Tbey did up production i. Post over time
Rockario: But the game is based around a small Mercenary company, which I suppose tips the balance towards meat
Despoiler98: @sniperserpent really? cause I got a dragon
Eyclonus: Tonnage
sniperserpent: it should be the SLDF highlander
El_Spectre: There was also a point system in Tabletop, Cam. It was calculated based on weight, weapons, pilot skill, etc.
SirFozzie: @aquinas_0 : Check your PM
long_bad_cutscene: battletech went though a few different balancing mechanics, cost, weight, and eventually BV
Despoiler98: @sniperserpent NOPE I got a full kit Dragon
zed_alpha: MULTIPLE lances of assault mechs, just to ramp up the difficulty.
Pika500: RogueTech fixes that. It introduces a BV system.
long_bad_cutscene: the BV value had to be brought in to balance clan vs non caln
Eyclonus: They could be former House Steiner reservists
Oatway_: it is ludonarrative dissonance
cosarprime: So everyone is using lyran scout lances?
SachielOne: If you have an Atlas, you've probably taken over the planetary government
SirFozzie: Mild disruptive effect on the bad guy
long_bad_cutscene: battle value
El_Spectre: BV = Battle Value
Fatemomax: battle value
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zed_alpha: A two-bit pirate organization fielding the GDP of an entire industrialized star system at once
Rockario: I liked Mech Commander's method of having a cap on deployment weight, so you can take you're heavy mech but don't have a lot of room for more than one. Unnless the mission calls for it
Despoiler98: Battle value
62MGcobra: its a very complicated caculation
Eyclonus: Batchal
FinalShowFilms: My sub apparently went away, and then came back saying I'm a new subscriber.
moo5termoo: just play roguetech it's better
FinalShowFilms: I don't understand.
Fatemomax: all you mech weights added together
Eyclonus: Oh, the bidding
SachielOne: I bid 100 bits in defiance of your claim.
El_Spectre: Nah, BV is calculated based on how big your mech is, what weapons it has, and how good your pilots are
Pika500: They calculate lance strength based on the value of your gear. Instead of the tonnage of your mechs.
randomino5: But if you bid too low and fail you pretty much have to commit suicide
Laserbeaks_Fury: I can name that tune in 5 notes
uroboros_of_old: Well bargained and done
Despoiler98: which is the only reason they didnt overrun the IS and in MWO there is no such system so they're kicking everyone's ass in the clan invasion in the online game and its breaking the game
Eyclonus: Clans couldn't engage in outright warfare with each other, so they got really good at fundamentals of combat
Rhynerd: I imagine it could be done
devin_yesthatdevin: Battle Value was an obnoxiously complicated number that you would have to calculate with a graphing calculator.
Oatway_: god the intro cutscene is so good
Pika500: That’s only for clans. IS don’t negotiate like that. And there isn’t clans in BattleTech.
Rhynerd: “Side!”
randomino5: Ohh yeah I remember the "edge" thing
TheWarbo: "Imagine the honor...if I had won."
uroboros_of_old: Tep
uroboros_of_old: Yep*
Eyclonus: But they got pantsed when the IS realized they suck at strategic planning
TheWarbo: I remember that specific quote from that story
moo5termoo: teenage cam thinks a lot was cool
Rhynerd: I thought the edge story was about a clan trying to lose matches to be peacefully dissambled onstead of destroyed in combat
Ashiok_Nightmare_Beaver: plus leaving witnesses feels like half assing it
zed_alpha: cheer100 My favorite Trial of Possession is the one between Ghost Bear and a local defense force. The locals, thinking the Clanners didn't know anything about Inner Sphere culture, challenged the invaders to American football. The Clan invaders' big, hulking powered armor pilots turned out to LOVE American football, played it constantly, and were super-excited that they FINALLY found someone else who wanted to play it with them. They conquered the planet, 77-3.
TheWarbo: Also I referenced that story at the Joint Mathematics Meetings and a guy at the table pulled out a probability comic a student of his did, with a coin landing on its edge.
Leafwind104: My big problem is going in with 4 mechs against 2 full lances of equal or comparable strength to my own
zed_alpha: @Leafwind104 same.
Leafwind104: Sometimes it feels like skill can win and other times it's just assault mechs smacking into each other
Eyclonus: For all their strength and skill, they're not very good at exploiting opportunities or insurgency/counter-insurgency
Pika500: Iirc. The clans did the bidding thing also as a way to conserve resources.
Eyclonus: @Leafwind104 pretty much
SirFozzie: @zed_alpha That's my second favorite Trial of posession. The first one was the Star League taking control of a Nova Cat planet.. the trial of possession was a coin flip, the Nova Cat called the flip incorrectly (He called "edge"
Leafwind104: And they can just smack better because they have more.
sniperserpent: they usually give you an autoevac
sniperserpent: but they don't on assassin sometimes
Eyclonus: @Pika500 which only works when the other guy isn't fighting it like an existential threat
Rhuvian: @Pika500 Lore wise that's why they formed the habit, yeah.
Leafwind104: Earlier in the game I feel like positioning matters more/is easier to mess with than later
zed_alpha: @SirFozzie Yeah, Cam was talking about that
Oatway_: tres buckets in salvage
Eyclonus: Last time I played this AC20s on the King Crab were awful, are they still terrible
Pika500: You didn’t used to have to walk to evac after completing the Mission. It was a bug introduced with patch 1.4.
Slurpee_E: I love having smaller mechs
Leafwind104: I really like the medium mech fights with like 1-2 heavy mechs
hawkfalcon8: @LoadingReadyRun have you guys read Ready Player One
zed_alpha: @hawkfalcon8 oh, uh. they don't particularly like that book.
Leafwind104: the assault mech battles feel just... hard in a not fun way
Eyclonus: I prefer mediums and lights just for the skirmishing hijinks
hawkfalcon8: @LoadingReadyRun so yes?
zed_alpha: I like mixed lance fights.
hawkfalcon8: oh
hawkfalcon8: no
Pika500: @loadingreadyrun you’re gonna love RogueTech then. It’s a mod on nexus mods. Most fights are 35 to 70 ton range
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hawkfalcon8: I wasn't
Eyclonus: @Leafwind104 think of it as a clash of titans, rather than... fun
SachielOne: Priority message? That's 1000 C-Bills per millisecond.
Pika500: With a giant emphasis on constantly moving and repositioning
Laserbeaks_Fury: Have you ever had a *poor* benefactor? It's boring, no one takes you seriously.
Eyclonus: Memes, they wanted meme
Leafwind104: A clash of very valuable and expensive-to-repair titans that I very much don't want to get too damaged
Mox_Hagdorm: It doesn't help that Twitter took the Iron Giant way out of context and just ran with it, too.
iamnolionheart: Battlesnek
Eyclonus: Second I think
SachielOne: 1 millisecond per CBill
Eyclonus: oh, millisecond
TheWarbo: "Is your currency backed by gold or silver?" "Phone calls."
Rhuvian: Millisecond, yeah.
SachielOne: Enough to do about 2 pages of text
Eyclonus: I love how retro-future the setting is
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Eyclonus: Like how cyborgs in Blakeist shadow companies had massive throat augmentations for microphones
hawkfalcon8: @LoadingReadyRun sorry didn't know but basically in 11 years we are going to be in that sort of setting (like wastelandish) because of how screwed up the environment is
JeremyNoell: :)
BronzeKnight: The battelmechs must flow
JeremyNoell: Some Arena, then a Lorwyn flashback draft
Despoiler98: GET THE THING
Eyclonus: Oh I hate this mission
JeremyNoell: Got paired against Rich Hagon first round :)
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TheBearBee: Are flashback drafts still phantom?
randomino5: Three yes options
TallBlondePillager: Wait, are there flashback drafts on Arena?
TheBearBee: No, its on MTGO
TallBlondePillager: Ah, welp
Eyclonus: This is the kind of lone shark that can get your planet killed
Rhuvian: The Argo is amazing. That was a major Kickstarter goal.
Eyclonus: *loan
Grimmig_Dunkel: @LoadingReadyRun You end up like Yama from Big Hero 6
Zyme86: You end up at starbucks serving soycafs for 3 cbills/day
Grimmig_Dunkel: What do good stats look like?
Rockario: Seems like you really want to take the salvage if you think there's going to be particularily valuable mechs deployed against you
Eyclonus: @Zyme86 you end up hollowed out in an alleyway with all your organs sold on the blackmarket
hawkfalcon8: cool
Eyclonus: @Rockario you don't always get the benefit of knowing that
Grimmig_Dunkel: Yama is the shady big guy from the Start of Big Hero 6 who is fighting tiny robots
Rockario: @Eyclonus And that's the gambling aspect of it, I suppose
Rhynerd: Thanks for the stream!
Grimmig_Dunkel: Bullshits you like XCOM?
Rhynerd: Let’s hope for a part 2?
NathanJay_GA: Thanks for the giant robo punch 'n shoot! Have a good one, everybody :)
Eyclonus: That's X-CO..... BATTLETECH BABY!
Despoiler98: CAM Have you seen the new DLCs>
Despoiler98: DLCs?
Rhynerd: 0%, 50%, 100%
Earthenone: Gambling is fun!
hawkfalcon8: this is why I love Talking Sim this conversation
Earthenone: more at 11
Rhuvian: See to me that adds flavor instead of detracting from it. It's a cost, like c-bills. You lost people. Sometimes at random. War is brutal and expensive, but life is cheap.
Grimmig_Dunkel: I really enjoyed the stream
Eyclonus: @Rhuvian this game is about making war a business
Rhuvian: Most of Battletech is, yes.
Eyclonus: So it makes sense, you're not just a commander, you're a small business entrepreneur
Rhynerd: A combat song of this game is “Meat Is Cheap”
SachielOne: It was the USS Hathaway
cosarprime: TNG: Peak Performance
Mox_Hagdorm: beat me to it lol
Eyclonus: "Its possible to commit no errors and still lose, that is not weakness, that is life"
Grimmig_Dunkel: ^
Eyclonus: Its applicable not all of the time
Grimmig_Dunkel: Sometimes bad things happen to good people
Mox_Hagdorm: Damn, chat is on fire with the quotes lmao
randomino5: If your pilots can be randomly killed then it should be important to have a team of leveled up pilots and/or they should be easy to replace.
Eyclonus: I think its referring to the aspect that sometimes you will get fucked over
MalBeam: you're not playing these sorts of games to feel wise
MalBeam: you're playing to showcase your skill
Earthenone: yeah, i felt like that playing pokemon as a kid, you have a limited number of uses of each move per rest, but the ai can just spam haymakers until one of you dies
Laserbeaks_Fury: tHERE IS A FIGHT IN THE RECENT gOD OF wAR THAT IS SUPER HARD AND VERY, VERY FAIR
Eyclonus: The goal is to minimize dice rolls then
Laserbeaks_Fury: oopa
randomino5: Can you hire veteran pilots with semi-random skills? That would be a good way of handling the loss of experienced pilots, having to cobble together a team from whatever the market offers.
DoctorOfBeard: going to play into the breach some time then?
NightBook1: That was followed by data at the end of the episode ignoring victory to prolong the contest untill the tactical guy quits
Rhuvian: There are veteran pilots yes.
Izandai: katesLol
Rhuvian: There's also training pods, so in between battle they can improve.
cosarprime: I think the the dice roll wouldn't be as bad if the AI did actually feel more responsive to losses. Especially in something like this were they're not supposed to have near limited reserouces.
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NightBook1: cheer100
Izandai: That was an excellent note. I'm so glad I showed up for that.
Herbert_Erpaderp: choo choo!
xantos69: Cam I understand your brain. I have those exact feelings all the time.
Rockario: Rolling in a turn-based game feels like it was invented as a way to simulate skill. But it never includes the idea that someone actually does just get 100% good
Rhynerd: It’s in MWO too
62MGcobra: Love this game. Glad the tabletop is still going with new products even though the game is still the same. Hope to see new content eventually. lrrHEART elfunkHeart
Molladia: This isn't Mech Warrior?
Rhuvian: Same universe.
Rhynerd: Mech Warrior is for when you pilot a single mech in Battletech.
Rhynerd: From the pilot’s perspective
Mysticman89: the only mech warrior game I played was the crecent hawks innception from like...early 90s?
randomino5: Crescent Hawk's Inception seemed good but I couldn't get into it
Chipton: Wait what? The sub lapsed? Aww
randomino5: green and gold mech GO PACKERS
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Chipton: And yet I still have my badge...
Earthenone: @Chipton twitch is just being twitchy
Rhuvian: If you re-up the sub within 30 days you don't lose your streak.
Mysticman89: badges are for lifetime total time, but streaks are tracked seperately nowadays
Molladia: Is the Enforcer available in this Battletech?
Rhuvian: Yep
Rhynerd: That’s awesome
62MGcobra: i've subbed 4 months in a row but i still only have a 1 month streak
zed_alpha: cheer100 I feel kinda bad for making y'all read such long-winded cheers, now. Take more of my money as an apology.
Earthenone: seems like a james thing to do
Earthenone: some spoops
TheWarbo: imscared
cosarprime: Yes. Devotion was banned.
Earthenone: !card concordia
LRRbot: Concordia Pegasus [1W] | Creature — Pegasus [1/3] | Flying
Laserbeaks_Fury: Awww I was rooting for Tir FIghter
Laserbeaks_Fury: *Tie Fighter
holidayMD: That game is rad
Earthenone: i was rooting for ff12
Rhynerd: Nice!
TheWarbo: How old are solders?
TheWarbo: Or tinkering?
Rhynerd: I only got to play part of the tutorial of that game
Phailhammer: cya :)
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
Rhynerd: Sweet! More Silver Tower too
Rhynerd: Thanks for the stream!
Rhynerd: See you folks in the future!