AmoriLinguae: I can't tell if this is more or less productive than chunk punching
PhoenixMelior: !point
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TXC2: thanks for streaming James
AdmiralMemo: So what is this stream? James Mines the Hole Thing?
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kat2kool: thanks James!
TXC2: !events
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monakai: Sweet!
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Metric_Furlong: !quote 666
LRRbot: Quote #666: "What do you do with them once their pants are off? (see quote 665)" —Cori [2015-09-14]
Licourtrix: Thanks James!
TXC2: !twitter
kat2kool: !quote 665
LRRbot: Quote #665: "I am a king and I can charm the pants off anyone." —Beej [2015-09-14]
CrazyZonie: So no cory and James playing game? Much sadness...
TXC2: goodnight everybody
CrazyZonie: Night @TXC2
OKB_1: !quote 667
AdmiralMemo: !findquote James
LRRbot: Quote #2736: "I don't know what James does with his... brain." —Felix [2016-06-03]
CleeKru: !findquote detroid
LRRbot: Could not find any matching quotes.
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OKB_1: !findquote robot
Cepsys: !next
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TehAmelie: 7 and a half stacks of spruce logs, i think this hole is going to go well
toomanybears: !next
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tim19862: Is the hole for a mob farm or?
OKB_1: @tim19862 No, just a hole for hole sake
Milambus: !point
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TehAmelie: i believe Einstein liked to say "dig holes as often as you can"
tim19862: katesLol
tim19862: Einstein from BTTF, sure
Metric_Furlong: !listen
LRRbot: Seriously, just never listen to chat
margieargie: But that means I shouldn't listen to that, and therefore can listen to chat, which means...
Cepsys: !advice
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OKB_1: !badadvice
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OKB_1: I don't see why not
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Kerrisis: !next
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OKB_1: Shouldn't the stream go offline first?
Juliamon: It did
Juliamon: Try a refresh, Twitch gets 'stuck' sometimes.
OKB_1: Ah I see. It still showed me the bonus stream endcard like it was live.
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OKB_1: I'm trying to do some planking exercises while waiting. It's surprisingly tough to hold a proper plank for over 90 seconds for me.
Jarcarp: hello
SquirrelLord1111: Hype
SquirrelLord1111: I love this gamee
Alness49: If you can listen closely you can hear Cam and Cori sharpening the knives in preperation for this game
LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> Cori and Cameron take their first steps into Detroit: Become Human. What will they find? 📷 ||
tastethebeams: hey friendos
lare291: It hasn't yet started?
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: ohai. are we about to experience epic storytelling?
lare291: Phew
MilkInBag: early stream?
Juliamon: It's time for Everyone's Favorite Totally-Human Storyteller
tastethebeams: you're about to experience AN storytelling, epicness for debate
voslan: Are you ready for some David Cage!
KharadBanar: @MilkInBag It's going to be that way for the foreseeable future, the schedule changed
TimbrePanic: Emuhshuns
Juliamon: !schedule
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AdmiralMemo: Let's Become Human
MousseFilledCat: Milkinbag- they’ve changed the whole schedule
hajnal_endot: dahvid cahj time
Metric_Furlong: Talking Sim: now wacthable in Europe
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SquirrelLord1111: Helloooooo
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TimbrePanic: actual hoomans
ssmoknbobjd: In Detroit feeling almost human right now.
AdmiralMemo: I'm Memo!
ReddestSix: This is going to be a thing
Milambus: I'm Milambus.
kat2kool: katesWave katesWave
Foxmar320: Hello Cam and Cori
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: i'm human!
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TehAmelie: hello word friends
OKB_1: Goedenavond
voslan: CAM! what do you think about reading classical books, while james is doing his Chunk Punch!
lare291: Hello I am human person yes
SquirrelLord1111: Im android
tastethebeams: HERESY
siderealmemories: Yay! This is the first time I'm catching Talking Sim. I'm excited.
Alness49: I'm happy for the new time, I can actually watch live!
BlackBlade_: Talking Stimulator... sweet!
stateofcomatose: excellent simulated talking 👍
e_bloc: cheer1005 new time talking simulator Cameron and Cori hype!
Crokoking: love the new timeslot - its actually europe-compatible
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: sunlight?! *hisses*
MaverickArtist: commence Daylight Simulator
RAICx: I can actually watch this live now!
OmnipotentTrevor: And I can actually watch an hour of it now before bed
TimbrePanic: have you become human yet?
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renkai116: heya all!!
HelenaD5: my first live talking sim also :)
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: last year
MilkInBag: excuse me
lorlyric_nekosune1389: lrrCREEPL lrrCREEPR
tastethebeams: You scared me, Cam!
lare291: Rude
FurthestChunk55: imagine carl sagan saying the game's title, and you've had all the enjoyment you need from this game
FurthestChunk55: become yooman
atlas624: Alright Cam, that was pretty good
Alness49: Lets not forget last year was 5 years by volume
MilkInBag: is there some SHAUN? in this game?
sir_jack_DB: Beyond: Two Souls was...a thing that happened to all of us
Metric_Furlong: the David Cage Gauge
Kerrisis: WHat a *polite* way of describing David Cage...
tastethebeams: He went from subtle racism in his games to a game badly addressing racism.
Stoffern: emotions?
kat2kool: big ideas that aren't supposed to say anything apparently
Metric_Furlong: his games inspire an amount of David Rage
Foxmar320: I feel like he wants to make a movie but has no idea how
TimbrePanic: Here I am still pondering if I should try Omikron Nomad Soul
MilkInBag: is David Cage the brother of Nicolas Cage?
Alness49: Oh, he's using the Ubisoft defence!
atlas624: David Cage is the worst part of his studio, and its the saddest goddamn thing.
ritchards: Allegory is for Cowards!
Metric_Furlong: TimbrePanic because of Bowie?
voslan: Is David Cage the new Peter Molydeux?
TheR676767: x to doubt
AdmiralMemo: I mean... "death of the author" even if it wasn't intentional?
Dared00: IMO it's the best David Cage game. Detroit's story had problems (a lot of them), but Beyond's and Heavy Rain's story *was* the problem. Detroit feels like the only game that's salvageable.
Lancelive: David Cage is a writer who doesn't believe in writing
Mox_Hagdorm: I've played both (with Fahrenheit being known as Indigo Prophecy in the US), so I'm interested in this game. I've not played it yet though, so I'm gonna sit this one out because spoilers.
Metric_Furlong: voslan pretty sure David Cage is the new David Cage
Milambus: May I point you to "Death of the Author" sir? =)
Crokoking: i don't think he is lying - just stupid
DentedPockets: Why set it in Detroit if it's not an allegory?
Tiber727: It definitely uses the language of the civil rights movement, even if it doesn't represent it.
ReddestSix: Androids literally sit in the back of the bus!
OKB_1: "No no, you don't understand! My game is boring and about nothing!"
margieargie: The less competent version of allegory vs. applicability, I suppose?
atlas624: @Tiber727 Or respect it
TimbrePanic: Metric_Furlong scifi aesthetic, combat, the gameplay feels very unique for its time
Metric_Furlong: Garth Marenghi's Dark Place is v. good
Alahmnat: hi chat :)
Oatway_: I feel like not talking about the working conditions and harassment in the studio is missing important context when talking about authorial intent.
Metric_Furlong: TimbrePanic but also Bowie?
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AdmiralMemo: Tank Controls for a synthetic being... seems right
DentedPockets: The process for "becoming human" involves learning how to walk like a human?
Rockario: "If this was an allegory, that would mean I'd have to think how my creative decisions reflect on people. And I don't like that."
tastethebeams: Detroit is the best David Cage game and is also horrible to sit through.
KodeMage: audio is quiet
renkai116: dont forget the touch pad
e_bloc: here I just assumed the whole city of Detroit would become human
e_bloc: especially south detroit
Foxmar320: Yeah that sounds about right
brainbosh: Oh, I'm interested in this, it just kinda came and went, but for some reason I see a huge fanbase on tumblr still?
ryuhimora: gotta use all dem buttons
MilkInBag: it will have Kinect options
Kykiwi: i am quite fine with quick time events
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: The Gameplay
CleeKru: @tastethebeams i disagree
Dared00: @brainbosh one of the storylines had a surprisingly good bromance story
atlas624: @brainbosh The detective robot is cute, so he gets a lot of fanart. I wish it was more complex than that, but it isn't
Alness49: So it sounds like a TellTale game, but I suppose there's a question of implimentation
Foxmar320: MilkInBag Kinect options on the PS4. Yep that scans as David Cage
KodeMage: yes...
ANeMzero: What makes a person a person.. in Detroit
LbxAni: wonderful, as I'm watching the horror film Equilibrium where people force themselves to become emotionless robots, they play the opposite, DBH
Milambus: What does "Detroit" say to you?
TimbrePanic: Metric_Furlong I think it's the association with David Cage that bothers me about Bowie being in that game
GDwarf: It's clearly a game about the city of Detroit forming into a giant humanoid robot
tastethebeams: @CleeKru as youre allowed to
AdmiralMemo: Depends on if you turn it back on again... Is sleep analogous to death?
Lancelive: are these robots... robots? 🤔
Tiber727: So even if the androids aren't stand ins for black people, it definitely took from those events, even where the comparison makes no sense.
FurthestChunk55: comparing david cage to spielberg is like comparing spoilt milk to a nice battenberg
SquirrelLord1111: Can these androids express emotion
voslan: Asimov's Laws are amazing but lead to humans being unkowning slaves!
e_bloc: every android action has an equal and opposite reaction
Dared00: Oh no. I forgot about... her.
renkai116: yes
Master_Gunner: mildly disconcerting face
atlas624: @Dared00 A bromance that exists mostly because the two main actors refused to follow Cage's direction of their scenes
GDwarf: Bra and ESP
SquirrelLord1111: Medium
Alness49: LARGER!
brainbosh: @Dared00 @atlas624 So cute boy bromance, explains tumblr pretty much.
CleeKru: @tastethebeams i failed to describe why i disagree so my comment was usless and i recognise that
sir_jack_DB: TEETH
KodeMage: I can't understand anyone who would think AI aren't people. They may not be a human but they are living sentient beings.
AdmiralMemo: I like the little temple bits
tastethebeams: @CleeKru its fine
SquirrelLord1111: He is best boy
DentedPockets: Isn't that... one of the batmans?
LbxAni: what's the combination of letters for the standardized group of languages games come in?
MilkInBag: Deathmarch
GDwarf: Putting the three laws in robot fiction is a weird choice in these days, honestly. A lot of the stuff around them has already been explored, and they don't really mesh with our understanding of how an AI would work.
Milambus: Is the sound sync in game off, or the stream?
Squallloir: omg i cant wait to watch this vod
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AdmiralMemo: Yes it is
Kykiwi: Lol
Qooroo: ,,,
RAICx: That's not how mouths work
Dared00: STOP
Kykiwi: suuuure
tastethebeams: suuuure
MilkInBag: This happened to a friend's friend
ritchards: This... is not political!
superherofae: my friends younger sister did voice acting for this game!
ryuhimora: that sounds like a lie
sir_jack_DB: god, her face is saing "wa wa wa wa wa wa" and I can't unsee it
Foxmar320: Yeah
ANeMzero: Oh good, I'm glad that Cage started subtle this time
MoonWhing: Sure it is
Alness49: This lip syncing is not working at all
FurthestChunk55: that sure is some facial animation
atlas624: @KodeMage There are arguments against (mostly based on if the intelligence is 'real' or just exploiting human tendencies to humanize objects) but this game does the "play sad music over the robots being hurt" thing so the argument never really exists
Pal_Friendpatine: Wow pretty
tastethebeams: uncanny valley is definitely there
Metric_Furlong: superherofae neat
SquirrelLord1111: Tutorial
Makimachine: Also, Asimov created the laws so he could find ways around them.
Alahmnat: phoneme capture for F and V was not... good.
Astra7525: "Liberty"
KodeMage: it can not be political but still be moral
Tiber727: @KodeMage Ex Machina was a movie that explored that, and I really like that. Even if an AI eventually becomes equal, AI goes through many iterations, and at what iteration does it gain humanity?
ZachtlyAsIntended: Is this Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead?
OKB_1: David Cage games often look so good. Shame about the games though.
brainbosh: That is a really big quarter?
Lancelive: let's go handsome boi bot
tehlordofelves: i didn't have that issue with lips not syncing when I played. But i did play on a PS4PRO
RassilonDND: oh good, they already have talked about my biggest issue: the off sync lip flapping
LbxAni: so how many copies of a Magic card did he just make?
Sxblack: Hey guys bryandWink
GDwarf: Well, not quite, he created the laws because he was tired of stories about robots turning evil and figured we'd have safeguards to stop that
tehlordofelves: that might have something to do with it
ryuhimora: @Makimachine the laws are literally designed to not work. If they did there wouldn't be a story.
GDwarf: *Then* he spent the rest of his career pointing out problems with the laws. :P
AdmiralMemo: So the other question... Was Dekker a Replicant? Would we encounter someone who is an android in this game, but didn't know it?
RatekStormcrow: I know there are rupees in these pots
ANeMzero: gonna walk around until someone dies, as is the only way to start Detroit
atlas624: Also its not allegorical but all androids have to wear armbands specific markings on their clothes to identify themselves as such. Not allegorical AT ALL
Makimachine: @ryuhimora exactly
DennyMcG: Elevator said floor 69, nice.
ritchards: Please tell me you can take so long you fail the negotiation
HondoTrigger: The dad is younger than me NotLikeThis
KodeMage: @Tiber727 I don't think it matters really, if it's sentient and we know it it's a person and deleting it is murder. I'm not going to ever advocate for a test because we tried that on people and it was just racism
Metric_Furlong: weird, they all have the same first name
Lancelive: this lady is racist, arrest her
niccus: the elevator is a metaphor for how we're skipping past nice
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e_bloc: is this robocop ???
hajnal_endot: the rise of self-described "apolitical" games is a bizarre thing to watch
Foxmar320: Good start
atlas624: @ritchards There is a timer, but I'm not sure what happens if you ignore it
tastethebeams: no political subtext here
Lancelive: honestly this is the best chapter in the entire game
Jarcarp: no the fish
AdmiralMemo: Ummmmmm
NathanJay_GA: "Why arent you sending a real person" not political
hajnal_endot: like, far cry 5, division 2, so on so forth
lare291: Nothing political at all!
ryuhimora: that was worthy of a cutscene????
niccus: i will admit this: the set dressing is nicer than in the quiet man
Bradway1: Nope. Not political at all
MilkInBag: so androids in the future need command prompts in VR to understand what to do, got it
atlas624: @hajnal_endot Not really, capitalism necessitates all products be as non-confrontational as possible so as to maximise potential profits
OKB_1: No politics here, move along citizen.
OmnipotentTrevor: I do like how this justifies on screen prompts. That being your AI commands
LbxAni: love the tech porn in this game
KharadBanar: Note the "it" pronoun
DentedPockets: Have you tried turning it off and on again?
ANeMzero: @hajnal_endot I feel like it's less of a "rise" of games like this, and more just a rise in people explicitly trying to claim that
ritchards: Subtlety is for Cowards...
KodeMage: "I'm trying to deal with it, that's why I'm asking questions."
tastethebeams: if you could take care of it why was the android sent?
AdmiralMemo: We've just lost time and success rate
DentedPockets: What happens if you just stand their for 4 minutes?
aquinas_0: murder probably?
aquinas_0: it seems that sort of game
Tiber727: @KodeMage It matters a lot, actually. Your argument begins with the assumption that it's sentient, but the question is how we know that it is sentient instead of following programming.
OKB_1: !card murder
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Alahmnat: "there's a gun"
hajnal_endot: @atlas624 true, it's just weird to see play out
hey_strawberry: DentedPockets you "fail"
AdmiralMemo: Question: Does time slow down while analyzing? Because you're an android with faster processing?
GDwarf: US politics has become significantly more partisan in the last dozen years, and games are...attempting to have more "mature" writing, but they don't want to alienate people, so you get this kinda pseudo-political stuff
Kykiwi: oh i rember rember me
Lithobraker: I love Talk & Play
atlas624: @tastethebeams They can kill the android but will lose the hostage. They aren't willing to send a human to negotiate because they might die
Lancelive: Remember Me, now that was a good game
DentedPockets: Slow-time events :p
hey_strawberry: I did that once where i fell asleep while playing and a character got killed
ANeMzero: Like there has always been this weird disconnect between Games wanting to be "art" to avoid censorship but also not actually saying anything because commercialism
Kykiwi: that was a neat game but got really dull later on
aquinas_0: Remember Me was almost a good game
aquinas_0: It was an interesting one though
KodeMage: is this in America? because that gun should be locked up better in most of the rest of the world
Lancelive: @Kykiwi the combo lab thingy was really cool
TimbrePanic: Remember Me, I wish I got to explore that world more
MilkInBag: YES
AdmiralMemo: Ugh!
Foxmar320: Noooooo
HesGotNoPants: !schedule
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Kykiwi: @Lancelive yea def
KodeMage: It's the future cam, the future!
hajnal_endot: i'd say less pseudo-political, more political-but-they-will-do-everything-to-say-it-isn't
ryuhimora: ewwwwwwww
Stoffern: Time to touch things!
atlas624: What's wrong with the touch pad?
aquinas_0: @TimbrePanic It Was Supposed To Be Open World! (sobs quietly)
Invitare: see through tablets seem like a privacy risk
AdmiralMemo: It's a "Deviant"... Reminds me of Criminal Minds with an "UnSub"
Lancelive: @Invitare no one watches dirty movies in the future, confirmed
niccus: tapping on a glass-table-top keyboard seems like it'll be a pain
ritchards: This game is annoying me already...
ryuhimora: the touchpad is not the best piece of hardware @atlas624
FurthestChunk55: is it bad i was hoping for Linkin Park there
lare291: "How do these headphones work? Do you hold them like this?"
atlas624: @hajnal_endot Oh yeah, I'm playing The Division 2 right now and the game went for actively boring rather than even attempting to engage with the politics of literally shooting American civilians in Washington DC
hajnal_endot: watching studios bend over backwards for this end is like dropping acid and going to a rally at a circus
ryuhimora: and it's situated very awkwardly to use more often than once every few minutes
KodeMage: I think transparent tech will absolutely be a technological fad when we get it, like notches and rounded corners and face unlock. Then we'll realize we don't want it and it'll be like fins on cars
DennyMcG: FurthestChunk55 crawwwling in my skiiiin
Invitare: Lancelive I mean, I was thnking more about government workers with confidential information in public places
Invitare: but sure
AdmiralMemo: Welp
Kykiwi: F
Lancelive: @Invitare my first concern is always lewd stuff i'm afraid
Lithobraker: Is it me or is the soundtrack very tron-esque?
MilkInBag: dead father, yeet
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FurthestChunk55: yeah i think we could figure out he's super dead without needing Android Vision
SquirrelLord1111: Yeah the controls are not the greatest and the key control are weird
TimbrePanic: aquinas_0 when i first saw the trailer where Nilin was climbing it reminded me of an old BeyondGoodandEvil2 trailer
ritchards: he's dead... oh, the information you had to analyse for this...
AdmiralMemo: OK, all 3 of the same caliber
DentedPockets: Just like batman!
Lancelive: this man is definitely dead, analysis has shown this
lare291: Naaaaah, this isn't a metaphor for anything, definitely
aquinas_0: at least it turned out better than whatever ride to hell was meant to be. It was still objectively a game
AdmiralMemo: So all likely shot by the same gun
LbxAni: ahhh Arkham with Robots :)
ayirbudd: have neither Cam or Cori played this?
Lithobraker: How does that show that he was holding a pad?
DennyMcG: He was shot, for our android eyes told us
niccus: well i tried to look up the game's composers and found out it's got 9.3 on imdb, so that hurt
Astra7525: was there more at the start of the latest reconstruction? there were yellow bits on the timeline?
thegrolan: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 17:09.
OmnipotentTrevor: There was more to reconstruct]
Foxmar320: lol
ryuhimora: watch the reconstruction and see if it shows where the pad went
lare291: We can take this literally tho. Don't be rude to androids
Alness49: Okay, this would be a great mechanic for a Sherlock game
CleeKru: you first have to find it in the reconstruct
AdmiralMemo: Find the other body?
SquirrelLord1111: go back and reconstruct
Juliamon: atlas624 they don't
Astra7525: oh I forgot that
Dared00: You need to restart the reconstruction and check the new clue
Master_Gunner: why the hell would you use the camera stick as an interaction prompt?
TimbrePanic: acquinas_0 agreed, and the music my word the music in that game was phenomenal
KodeMage: heavy handed music...
atlas624: They don't? Then please for the love of god go back to the pad through the reconstruction
Lithobraker: atlas624 great I can talk about how much I admire Cam! And how cool Cori is!
CleeKru: yeah... i know that's dumb
niccus: it's heavy-handed but it's mostly fine
tim19862: Gotta know about a thing to use a thing lrrBEEJ
tim19862: lrrFRUMP
Lancelive: this is really the best track in the game
Lithobraker: atlas624 you lied to me!
DennyMcG: that's just unnecessary
hajnal_endot: i actually really dig the weird stringy synth
niccus: would... would this music fit in xcom
KodeMage: that's a jump, why not augmented? they could have 2 androids instead of one
AdmiralMemo: Same caliber... Same gun likely.
DrWreckage: I missed the begining, why the fuck is this an active warzone?
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brainbosh: First dead cop is Deckard?
lare291: Why would anyone need two androids tho?
OKB_1: There's your problem. Dead
Metric_Furlong: DrWreckage hostage situation
Dared00: @DrWreckage in medias res, we just came here
hajnal_endot: @niccus hell yeah
midday_rendelnep: how deep did james dig his hole?
KodeMage: because they could get more work done
Foxmar320: Yeah I don't think the andriod were after is going to walk out of here
lare291: Assuming servants, of course. I'd get two just to be friends with
SK__Ren: Its unnerving how little they acknowledge you as you do this.
KodeMage: one works while the other recharges
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OmnipotentTrevor: Yellow parts of teh reconstruction are where imporant bits are
KodeMage: I would expect 2 at a minimum, if not more
OKB_1: @midday_rendelnep Till level 30 something I think
atlas624: Are we going to have a GUN playthrough?
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niccus: part of an ongoing theme through the game is some manner of planned obsolescence as applied to androids
lare291: Okay that's logical, I guess
TheR676767: nice
Fizzicist13: nice
niccus: it's... not really explored in depth
FurthestChunk55: we have a nice probability
TimbrePanic: 69 success rate what you tellin me game?
zerg539: katesNice
Kykiwi: hue hue
OmnipotentTrevor: You don't have to do much of anything. YOu could go out there right now
lare291: 69 succeeds
KodeMage: one can rub my back while the other cleans my feet, or whatever
FurthestChunk55: are we just gonna keep the gun
MilkInBag: the pasta D:
Alness49: Okay, there's a really good idea here that the more we work and analyse the longer the standoff goes on and the casulties on the force increase. It's an interesting idea, lets hee how it plays out
Lancelive: ready for violence zoeyNice
SquirrelLord1111: Go talk
AdmiralMemo: Throw boiling water on it?
superherofae: I love how David cage thinks everyone in the US lives in a giant apartment
DennyMcG: The cops seem pretty okay with you just taking that gun.
tergonis: shouldn't that gun have gone in an evidence bag or somethin?
KodeMage: when thinking of the excesses of humanity I tend to think of rome, how many slaves did the wealthy romans have, lots...
PMAvers: I think they're not really paying attention.
Astra7525: Is this on a timer, but doesn't tell you it is?
OKB_1: That's is a huge penthouse pool!
lare291: I mean, only rich people would have androids, and only rich people would have big apartments
MilkInBag: music in interesting
atlas624: @tergonis Cops have more to worry about, plus these guys are SWAT, not CSI
SquirrelLord1111: You are ready
tim19862: "Hostage Taken*" lrrFRUMP
TimbrePanic: superherofae Heavy Rain's apartments were like a dream
atlas624: Oh yay blood licking
AdmiralMemo: @Astra7525 Perhaps. (I don't know.) However, our probability has been going UP so far.
e_bloc: mmmm blood
TheR676767: mmm blueberry
MilkInBag: you're a witcher
DennyMcG: You're an android vampire!
cotillion1850: I trying to remember I belive that there 5 different ways for this scenario to end?
tergonis: @atlas624 ah, fair
hajnal_endot: 77% of the time it works all the time
KharadBanar: Licking gives us his serial number, obviously
renkai116: too hasty
DennyMcG: !sir
LRRbot: Sir? Sir? You can't FROOT FROOT here.
KodeMage: calling the android an asshole is anthropomorphizing it, subconciously acknowledging that it's human-like
cotillion1850: THat was just his model number
Alahmnat: 77% of the time it works 100% of the time
atlas624: >Gets shot >Oh good, found the hostage
ryuhimora: !advice
LRRbot: Impress the ladies with your alpaca knowledge.
niccus: huh, one of the composers is the lead composer for ps4 Spiderman
cotillion1850: Go to the cop on the ground to the left
TimbrePanic: have you heard of the alpaca's this season?
e_bloc: seems a little cold for a swim
ritchards: My Emotions!
AdmiralMemo: Oh nice. Unlocking options.
Dared00: "No more gun" - David Cage, 2017
ryuhimora: that gun looks way to big for a .355
atlas624: GUN is objectively the best way to play this game
TimbrePanic: Bicentenniel Man took a really sharp turn here
MilkInBag: that's not very sympathetic
ritchards: Cut Scene Fail State?
OKB_1: Why did my makers made me feel pain.
Alahmnat: very not political
KharadBanar: ohhhh, there's the S word
Lancelive: totally apolitical
notBrunoAgain: Hey folks, how's the human becoming
TimbrePanic: Connor got pull
KharadBanar: lrrFINE
ritchards: 99% Xcom success!
AdmiralMemo: Ooh, missed something?
FurthestChunk55: i wanna car
lare291: I want Lamborghini
e_bloc: c'mon 1%
MilkInBag: headshot him
MilkInBag: OpieOP
TimbrePanic: game that system
OKB_1: @notBrunoAgain The current human is being taken hostage. Bad mood.
Astra7525: Captain is SO going to shoot him
Foxmar320: Yeah your word is not great
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: through the teeth
CoyoteSans: The android always die in this sequence no matter what you do.
lare291: Rude
OmnipotentTrevor: I don't think in all the streams of this i've seen it actually go this well
niccus: ah, good ol johnny threeshoots
KodeMage: why are they so bad at aiming... yeah cori is right...
Lancelive: sniper is drunk on the job
AdmiralMemo: Didn't hit his brain. He's fine.
Foxmar320: I could have made that shot and im horrible
cotillion1850: I love that that is Cori's problem
RabidWallaby84: they don't take out the head because you can reuse the pieces if you keep the important ones intact
CleeKru: Because maybe a shot to the head would not kill an Android?
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: its windy?
Oatway_: it's a good thing they took three shots in the same direction as the little girl
KodeMage: They did it intentionally I think
TheWooglie: he can't say that if the snipers got a headshot
MilkInBag: the end
OmnipotentTrevor: Most other streamers don't get him to release the hostage
MalBeam: keep the brain alive to analyse it
ryuhimora: that's the easiest shot in the world
RassilonDND: bullet through head?
DakNovak: danCry
Lancelive: Clap
PMAvers: Holy crap, a Connor survival? What is this madness?
Kykiwi: terminator conor out
CoyoteSans: This is also the best possible ending for this sequence.
OmnipotentTrevor: that I've seen anyway
AdmiralMemo: He just needs a new body. They can rebuild him.
OKB_1: Well done, Agent 47
MilkInBag: exactly LUL
ryuhimora: Why did this have to be an android? Don't the police have people who are trained for this?
ritchards: Parents Dead, Child Traumatised - Mission Success!!!!
CleeKru: @PMAvers yeah i doesn't happen often....
RabidWallaby84: Oh! This is by the same people that did Quantum Break!
notBrunoAgain: "Empathetic" short for "feign empathy"
brainbosh: "Insert Empathy Here"
mugsi_: *Android shot three times* Success! -?!?!
atlas624: Nah, best ending is Connor shooting the deviant. GUN is best route, always
orellien2773: I mean, there's no reason why you'd put the robot's brain in their head. Keeping it in their torso would be much safer for the robot and make it much easier to protect.
KodeMage: ugh, achievement spam
notBrunoAgain: "Deploy empathy module"
Foxmar320: I kind of want to see that mission again now but you tank every option
Astra7525: Look game, you are not supposed to tell the player that you are basically just a flowchart and dialogue tree hiding behind a nice facade
SquirrelLord1111: It shows you your FAILURE!
KharadBanar: the flowchart is honestly quite interesting
Alness49: Show me the red strings
atlas624: Yeah, the stats on this screen are actually pretty neat
CoyoteSans: @ryuhimora It's like a proof of concept, because CyberLife is trying to get the police to take this unit on as an advisor to find out what's going with these "deviant" androids.
TimbrePanic: KodeMage it can be turned off
OKB_1: Empathy: "We're not so different, you and I!"
SquirrelLord1111: Thi wa the best ending
Oatway_: are android innards harmful at all?
ryuhimora: okay I guess that tracks
notBrunoAgain: Honestly I feel like the flowchart is a little masturbatory
MilkInBag: is there a path on the flowchart that leads to the game being good? OpieOP
Oatway_: like battery acid?
Pal_Friendpatine: Yeah terrible quality snipers
korvys: "I don't trust players to understand how much of my genius I put in this game, so I'll show them after every scene" - David Cage, probably
notBrunoAgain: It feels like a movie where you can't shut off the director commentary
AmoriLinguae: I like the idea of the flowchart but not the other stuff
ryuhimora: 10,000 is too many
DennyMcG: Jason!
hajnal_endot: i actually really like flowcharts for these kinds of games; it makes getting the better endings way less tedious
Lancelive: excellent TransgenderPride coat
RassilonDND: Shawn?!
ryuhimora: Shawn!
Aitsu111: JASON
e_bloc: Shawn?!?
hajnal_endot: see also: 999's remaster\
CoyoteSans: So, the flowchart tells you the stats of what other people did, and we can assume most people only played through this once.
RassilonDND: teeth?!
e_bloc: in the same universe as Fallout 4 confirmed
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: JASON
AdmiralMemo: That one looks like B'lanna Torres when she was split into human and Klingon.
MadRemedy: @korvys That sounds way too human for David Cage to have thought it.
ryuhimora: oh yeah is was Jason first
Lancelive: androids selling androids WutFace
MilkInBag: Robert Paterson spotted
ritchards: See, it's not about race, there are black people in it!
TraceBullet: I like the comically large toy box
PMAvers: The WotC-Branded Android: It comes in a blind pack and the features on it are randomized.
CoyoteSans: Most people choose the most empathetic options, which stands in defiance of this game's thesis, in that humans will only ever see androids as purely machines.
Astra7525: This feels weird
notBrunoAgain: Yeah the prices make no economical sense
Perivale: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at the world of video games. Game: Detroit: Become Human) at Tue 02:00 PM PDT (34m ago).
OKB_1: It's quite cheap looking store for such a fancy product.
notarealartist: this guy scares me
kat2kool: is 'a car hit it' equivalent to 'she fell down the stairs' ?
CleeKru: Kara best girl
DennyMcG: Why do I get the feeling this guy is a badsm'n
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: oh boy, Shady McSquints
LoadingReadyRun: @kat2kool yes
flapjacksofwar: Unemployment is high, buy an android
niccus: oh hey title drop
lare291: Kara best girl!
kat2kool: thought so
CoyoteSans: Some dude's doing an LP of this game... and his sister is the actual actress who portrays Kara.
brainbosh: Already anxiety about this
Astra7525: Maybe the actual humans in this game move around so much as a contrast to the robots being very still
coolbond: no shit
AdmiralMemo: @kat2kool I mean... I wouldn't be surprised.
orellien2773: Ah, Lex Luthor's in this...
coolbond: coyote link please
notarealartist: when does this take place?
Lithobraker: has anyone seen media in which the hostage taker doesn't get killed after releasing the hostages?
atlas624: @DennyMcG He's a creepy guy in a David Cage game, they are always evil, no exceptions. Cage is not subtle
edgeyberzerker: Also Connor's actor is a twitch player as well
KodeMage: wow... that's a fist
aussie_rob_w: @coyotesans oh, neat.
AmoriLinguae: CoyoteSans do you know who?
KharadBanar: Pretty credits sequence!
ryuhimora: why is there a floating sever arm????
ryuhimora: severed*
CoyoteSans: @AmoriLinguae dude named CirclMaster.
Alahmnat: hi G
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: ohai G
margieargie: Hmmmm… Kara, Turkish for "black"...
LbxAni: the most of content warnings
ryuhimora: Hi G!!
KodeMage: ok, so this game is from a major studio? how gritty and realistic is it? robot sex?
notarealartist: hi g
DennyMcG: atlas624 yeah, when I played Heavy Rain, didn't take me very long to figure out who the bad person was there either
MilkInBag: spoilers D:
Lancelive: thank you Graham SeemsGood
Foxmar320: Hello G
Licourtrix: Child abuse and domestic violence also drug use
kat2kool: thanks G!
cotillion1850: Yes super COntent Warning
lare291: Kara is totally transition goals. Both transhuman and transgender transition goals
renkai116: spoilers?
CoyoteSans: There's no actual sex in this game, just quick robo-touchy sex.
OKB_1: Could the game audio be turned down a bit?
MalBeam: the androids took our jorbs
SquirrelLord1111: Yeah Karas story is very hard a it leads with abuse
MilkInBag: c a g e
CopperAstronaut: the music is washing out your voices
FurthestChunk55: there's no racism analogue, but here's a black android being wistful towards humans
Kykiwi: ^
ryuhimora: do androids need to wear seatbelts
AdmiralMemo: Content warnings pre-empt spoilers... also, this is a fully spoiled stream, as it's Talking Sim.
stateofcomatose: Game volume is a bit high
Astra7525: Emotions!
Dared00: Yeah, game audio is a bit loud
notarealartist: ah 2038
TimbrePanic: David Cage games especially the later ones definitely do call for content warnings poorly done or not
teknixtek: Ahhh....I was literally just trying to remember the name of this game. Thanks for helping me remember.
CoyoteSans: This is the best David Cage game, in that it is the least "David Cage-y" in style, but it's also the worst Cage game because the metaphor is horribly bungled.
Nicarrow: hi all
aussie_rob_w: David CAGE
Lancelive: what that's the same kid from the store D:
Metric_Furlong: if you're going to complain about content warnings being 'spoilers': don't
MilkInBag: walking normally
lukyhemee: why the best streams are always late at night :(
KodeMage: @FurthestChunk55 we've already seen some racist analogue, they said the android wasn't real person, that's been said about many a race
ZachtlyAsIntended: I thought that said "pants shop"
MitchTheQuaker: This perspective of this game from living around detroit for my whole life is interesting. Inside the city has been good for most of my life but once you get outside of downtown that looked fairly accurate to now
CoyoteSans: About a real life VERY touchy and sensitive issue we are still grappling with and wil continue to grapple with basically forever.
cmdrud87: cheer2500 look wht I found last week per fiscount on my acount... also, keep being awesome, the way that you are!
LoadingReadyRun: get ye pants
AdmiralMemo: Cori: Would you like to be a child your entire life? Because that's what android children would be.
FurthestChunk55: @KodeMage oh I know, I'm taking the piss out of Cage saying this game isn't about racism
CleeKru: Android Children....
cotillion1850: There is a Magzine later that talks about Android Children
lonlycracker: was there ever a talking sim on Life Is Strange 2 ep2?
lare291: Considering what most would have androids for, android children would be hella creepy
Lancelive: needs a whole damn android to replace a phone
AdmiralMemo: @lonlycracker Yes
ryuhimora: DISOBEY
Kykiwi: that one expesive fitbit
RockPusher: Don't walk. Run.
Astra7525: You really did
tendrilsoftragedy: go now
DennyMcG: Screw the rules, I walk where I wish
MadRemedy: Why pay $5k for an anthropomorphic google fitness?
NathanJay_GA: oh, can we ignore the traffic light?
lonlycracker: @AdmiralMemo ah alright il look for it, thanks
KodeMage: "good" ending?
MilkInBag: crosswalk buttons are so 2020
AdmiralMemo: Wait, there are unequivocal good and bad endings in a LiS game?
teknixtek: What happens if you jaywalk?
DennyMcG: But is it cool technology
lare291: Fun fact: Crosswolk buttons don't do anything
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ayirbudd: cool technology!
hajnal_endot: this seems way more polished than i was expecting
notBrunoAgain: I think the crosswalk changing on the ground is meant to be your android programming giving you augmented reality view
Milambus: expensive in snowy areas
KharadBanar: Cool technology!
notarealartist: hopefully the androids never happen
KodeMage: is the ground really green or is it part of the aug? (augmented reality)
DrWreckage: It's the future Cam, there is no more snow
CleeKru: spoiler in a game with desicions there is a "good" ending
ANeMzero: Only problem with changing the crosswalk from red to green.. colourblindness
stateofcomatose: Game Volume is still very high
niccus: they still do stuff in relatively pedestrian-light intersections
AdmiralMemo: Parking? Is that the recharging station?
SquirrelLord1111: Go to the rally
thirsty_kitteh: @lare291 it depends on the crossing. if it's a single pedestrian one, it will
ryuhimora: underground LEDs are a nightmare to maintain. It would work but be super expensive for a big city like Detroit.
CoyoteSans: I will say this game doesn't have anything nearly as absurd as the Internet Avatar ending or the various crap in Beyond Two Souls.
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: tactical
MilkInBag: why do you need an android to use a broom when we have roombas
notBrunoAgain: Oh this game is quite polished, the problem wasn't that it's broken, is that it's badly designed
sir_jack_DB: that's so weird, just parking people
MadRemedy: why is the ground so shiny?
lonlycracker: I mean its cool, idk if cities want to pay for electronics that can survive weather and cars rolling over them
LbxAni: there's de icing concrete for airports, so a crosswalk is easy
LoadingReadyRun: oeuf
PMAvers: Tactical Street Sweeping Simulator Dusty GEAR
TimbrePanic: I'm wondering why they(developers) decided to use Detroit as the setting?
hajnal_endot: h u m a n m u s i c
ayirbudd: ahhhh human music. I like it.
lare291: Wow, rude
Nightvalien28: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Talking Simulator (Cameron and Cori take a critical look at the world of video games. Game: Detroit: Become Human) at Tue 02:00 PM PDT (39m ago).
Gekyouryuu: Human Music? I remember that episode of Rick and Morty
AdmiralMemo: Is that G on the LRR account? :)
Contiguouskittycat: Now with Tactical Mopping action!
Alness49: "Human music, none of those... *shudders* walkmans here!
OKB_1: "Fun" fact: The blue triangle is the marker on the uniform was also used by the Nazis to mark forced labourers. No politics here.
Lancelive: @TimbrePanic something about the android industry replacing the car industry?
MilkInBag: anxiety experience OpieOP
notBrunoAgain: No option to punch the busker, 0/10
midday_rendelnep: @TimbrePanic My assumption is robocop
Astra7525: I am stealing that response from you, Cam
lare291: I mean, my favorite artist is that one computer that generates music
Dared00: Oh yeah, this game has android popstars. Vocaloids are real.
KodeMage: souls don't exist, experiencing music in ear pods is still a real experience
ryuhimora: it's Drebin?
CoyoteSans: @TimbrePanic Same reason Human Revolution did: city with an auto manufacturing history that fell on hard times, but could come back with future tech maybe???
niccus: this is david cage warning you to not play this game
CleeKru: @TimbrePanic bc not many people could be insulted and it's still well known?
LbxAni: they were working on roadways with solar panels that could light up and carry internet
notBrunoAgain: love to see what a bunch of French white people think midwestern Black preachers are like
freshmaker__: Thomas Edison was a witch
TimbrePanic: Lancelive yeah I suppose
midday_rendelnep: <stellaris Spiritualist
KodeMage: I hate the term IRL for things not online, the internet is real life too, those things are AFK, not IRL
ritchards: Wow, dust created machines? pretty cool!
CoyoteSans: also, a black man ranting and raving about the oppressed underclass, good job Mr. Cage
Nigouki: is this how the Butlerian Jihad started?
abaoa_qu: Time for the Butleria, Jihad
TimbrePanic: midday_rendelnep haaha nice
ZeniteZero: Foreshadowing?
CoyoteSans: ranting against, I mean
OfficialBengan: Found the luddite
AdmiralMemo: SPOILERS, dude! Kappa
korvys: "The game can't be racist, cause one of the anti-android folks is black!" David Cage, probably.
RockPusher: Ploughs will end civilisation!
TraceBullet: The Evil Within
Alahmnat: somewhere the author has written "subtlety" on a hammer and then smashed the script with it
MitchTheQuaker: This sounds pretty accurate to TBH
Invitare: "Oh? Did I accidentally activate my active camoflage feature?"
mrMorphius: Fingers crossed we wipe this city off the map as the God man said
ryuhimora: My designation is AX700. Destruction is not among my defined directives.
Contiguouskittycat: I mean, I believe in souls, but if there were sapient machines, I'd think they have souls as well?
MalBeam: only detroit? pretty weak robot revolution
aussie_rob_w: Take off your lapel pin, then, if you hate technology so much
MadRemedy: Ask the Amish
silvalunae: holy butts as someone who has seen the end of this, that holds so much more weight than i realized o.o
Milambus: no buttons
PMAvers: I mean, we were just ordered to destroy Detroit, so... we have to do it now.
Alness49: It's somewhere between Fire and Skynet
Gekyouryuu: pretty sure The Anti-Chrysler was DESIGNED to be evil. Kappa
Papperslappen: wheels? are wheels evil?
AdmiralMemo: Fire = Arson
notBrunoAgain: microwaves are good, until you heat a hot pocket in them, at which point they become evil
MilkInBag: luddites did nothing wrong
thegrolan: Ban the WHEEL!!!
Milambus: No wheels
TheWriterAleph: go plow those fields yourselves, lazy bums
rocketjohn: The guy was wearing glasses.
LbxAni: anyone who watched Wanted knows looms are bad
rocketjohn: He's a cyborg
TehAmelie: i can understand the wheel, but pulleys are clearly witchcraft
mugsi_: Walking upright?
kat2kool: need a shovel to bury stuff
KodeMage: calling the internet not real life makes no sense, LRR's people make their living off the internet, saying it's not IRL denigrates their profession.
DrWreckage: If jesus had it it's fine
AmoriLinguae: no simple machines or complex ones
SK__Ren: Only if its by hand Cam
Astra7525: What happens if you try to push through?
tim19862: ugh
ryuhimora: gotta go to the Pants store
CoyoteSans: @Contiguouskittycat You can tell when a robot story is western, because Japanese stories just assume everything has a soul by default.
aussie_rob_w: Microwaves are good, but microwave meals are evil.
AdmiralMemo: Bell-bottomed pants? Kappa
ZachtlyAsIntended: Bell Bottom Paints
cotillion1850: I liked how they did that
notBrunoAgain: Does the invisible video game wall actually stop you?
MousseFilledCat: My father needs high end gamma radiation to regulate deal with brain tumors so.......
sopranocat: It's called disability
TheWriterAleph: go to the p a n t s s t o r e
sir_jack_DB: this shop is RAD
PMAvers: He's got Warhammer minis to paint.
OKB_1: Hue hue
ANeMzero: Cool Pigment technology?
AdmiralMemo: @notBrunoAgain Yes
ryuhimora: oh god the door is a quicktime
Lancelive: I really like this scene, weirdly
notBrunoAgain: Oh
korvys: That's where it's kept, yes
kat2kool: that is actually a great aesthetic for a paint store
Invitare: are you suggesting that video games all video games are set in fascist distatorships?
CoyoteSans: The pigmentation is just an effect, their "true skin" is stark plastic white.
ryuhimora: no tax?
notBrunoAgain: I thought you could like walk into traffic earlier to like increase your deviancy or something
tim19862: I mean, that's why security guards and "employee only areas" exist 🤔
AdmiralMemo: Android Pay is great!
sopranocat: Especially invisible disabilities, no one else can see your boundaries but I sure as hell can see them
MilkInBag: there are still .99$ in the future?
OmnipotentTrevor: The holographic skin and hair in this game is somewhat inconsistent
notBrunoAgain: This is way less interesting
hajnal_endot: @AdmiralMemo FUCK
AmoriLinguae: I feel like they missed an opportunity to make this a pant shop
renkai116: lmao
Alness49: So we're paying and confirming wirelessly. So... why are we talking?
freshmaker__: Oh I thought that was a bit, Cam.
ryuhimora: bus?
AdmiralMemo: @hajnal_endot Gottem!
SquirrelLord1111: I thought cameron was making a joke
niccus: what happens when an android has their paypal account frozen
ZeniteZero: Paypal sure came a long way Kappa
MalBeam: i thought cam was making a joke the whole time
CoyoteSans: Onlly Conner has a deviancy counter, for reasons we'll see later.
KodeMage: now that's some frictionless payment there, the holy grail of retail
AdmiralMemo: @ZeniteZero With an actual Pal!
Papperslappen: I once saw an ad for apple pay that just said Pay with your face. I think this is the future they want
TheWriterAleph: mmm swatches
KodeMage: paint in a square box seems odd
MilkInBag: and the shop explodes?
DentedPockets: I'm guessing they're speaking out loud for the benefit of potential humans in the store, so they're not creeped out when the androids just pass things between each other?
RatekStormcrow: Can you really creatre color .. does color exist without a human to recognize it ... so much philosopy
ZeniteZero: @AdmiralMemo So... a Paypal Pal?
Contiguouskittycat: I also buy my pants in square hard-plastic packaging.
TimbrePanic: I prefer shelves and aisles in an art supply store
RockPusher: In the future, all colours are Taco Bell lrrBEEJ
Lancelive: @Papperslappen that or we just headbutt people as "payment"
CleeKru: This time talking sim is Spopiler free, correct?
SajuukSjet: now that's some glass technology, that shifting color pallette over the paint
SquirrelLord1111: Go to the right
OmnipotentTrevor: Is that a theater?
KharadBanar: @CleeKru It is
Licourtrix: DentedPockets, what if it's just a requirement that financial transactions have to be done out loud?
Metric_Furlong: also, assuming from a design perspective, would you give your subservient race of machine thralls a method of communicating with each other that's innaccessible to humans?
AdmiralMemo: Why does an android need to take a bus?
CleeKru: ok
CoyoteSans: @DentedPockets Yeah, the devs said they thought about doing the telepathic speaking thing, but realized in a game mostly about androids talking to each other, it would quickly get creepy and unnatural to watch.
lare291: @AdmiralMemo Faster? It's not like they can fly
Metric_Furlong: AdmiralMemo faster than walking
Alahmnat: to save energy I guess, Memo?
KodeMage: the human formfactor really restricts your options, why not have 360 degree vision, why make only eyes your photon receptors
ZeniteZero: Uh oh
Lancelive: conflict! D:
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: agreed, you couldn't fully talk about the game otherwise
tim19862: related spoilers lrrAWESOME
lare291: They are androids, not robts
kat2kool: you are literally surrounded by androids...
cotillion1850: So should we tell you spoliers or answer questions you have earlier than the game would tell you?
MilkInBag: time to summon C17
DentedPockets: Totally not an allegory...
silvalunae: i think it's you bc you're not accompanied by a human or a government bot
HondoTrigger: "yup, no allegories here, no sir-ee"
Bradway1: This is how normal humans interact...
korvys: The illusion of choice!
tim19862: taken our JERBs
KodeMage: call 911?
thegrolan: I pushed a man now I feel powerful!!!
Alahmnat: the lack of politics is staggering
CoyoteSans: This entire is game is "opposite of how human empathy actually works"
CleeKru: instability
notarealartist: agitated?
Pal_Friendpatine: Does that lady REALLY want the job that the android would “steal”?
silvalunae: yellow means anxiety, red is fear
TimbrePanic: they should do away or add an option besides tapping button very quickly like most games now do
TraceBullet: aggro?
niccus: wow a good cop
sir_jack_DB: the use of "it" is unnerving
OKB_1: This scene is very subtle…
notBrunoAgain: Ah yes, Detroit cops, notoriously chill about people threatening to destroy thousands of dollars of property in public
Kykiwi: yellow ring porcessing ??
AdmiralMemo: Is the game audio kind of low for anyone else?
RassilonDND: why blame robots? it's ultimately the fault of the rich and the lack of wages
KodeMage: capitalist apocylapse
MilkInBag: but Cam, Capitalism works OpieOP
ryuhimora: that's a really good point,
ryuhimora: Cam
notarealartist: capitalism DansGame
tim19862: he was a real coach Z
Lancelive: seize the means of production, please
TimbrePanic: AdmiralMemo it is a bit llow
CleeKru: they technically speaking not programmed to have feelings
FurthestChunk55: @AdmiralMemo people kept asking for it to be turned down
AdmiralMemo: Pick out your replacement!
CoyoteSans: Yeah, this is a world were the world is having an unemployment crisis... and all people can think to do is suggest maybe DON'T build androids anymore???
TheR676767: robus
hajnal_endot: subtle
korvys: SUBTLETY
ZeniteZero: Well, technology has advanced faster than societal structures, by and large.
freshmaker__: Remember. Not political
lare291: @CleeKru Not programmed, but they can feel anyway
niccus: not political at all
notBrunoAgain: hey do any of you wanna bet that this game will address the underlying structural issues of capitalism in any respect
TheWriterAleph: isn't the distance between full ai androids and post-scarcity like, a step and a half?
notarealartist: oj no
Aarek: not political at all
sir_jack_DB: yiiiikes
Master_Gunner: no politics at all in this game
notBrunoAgain: because I'll take those bets
Master_Gunner: none at all
Bradway1: Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
Alness49: As subtle as a half-brick
PMAvers: Nothing political about this. Nothing at all.
Amentur: Reminder that this is not political
TheR676767: Just a story about androids
Alahmnat: such no politics
e_bloc: ugh Android Apartheid
kat2kool: so I know this is an allegory that's definitely not an allegory, but something that supposedly has no free will can't actually 'steal' something
TraceBullet: one yike out of many
aussie_rob_w: Subtle, David Cage.
tim19862: AdmiralMemo Haven't caught you in streams in awhile. I hope you are well lrrAWESOME
Gekyouryuu: @LoadingReadyRun why is fiction so sure humanity will be violently opposed to robots when we can all see how people react to thinks like the mars rover shutting down?
RassilonDND: I mean Android's don't need personal space. you could stack them
accountmadeforants: I'm reminded of the lore behind Supreme Commander: Yeah, we've basically got multiple, galaxy spanning factions living in post-scarcity societies, using their technology to turn mass into GUN.
NexVesica: I almost have David Cage bingo already
KodeMage: enter at back, exit at front, that's how busses work
FurthestChunk55: we are forty five minutes in and the obvious race allegory has reached peak Cage
CleeKru: @lare291 but once again not intentional
Crokoking: good thing this game isn't politial Kappa
CoyoteSans: Hell, it doesn't even make sense from an efficiency standpoint, because you could just stack them on the roof or in the undercarrage or something.
Rockario: "We should make it so losing your job doesn't mean you're destitute" feels like the big lesson of a lot of future-automation-is-scary stories
FurthestChunk55: but of course, Cage can go even further beyond
Astra7525: There were alternative paths here?
lare291: @Gekyouryuu "But the rover is cute!"
TheR676767: was this chapter really named shades of color
ryuhimora: if the Android Compartment had been in the middle or front of the bus, would that have been any better?
sopranocat: Yeah, I hate how every sci-fi story where there are androids that are just like humans up to and including thinking and feeling end up with everyone or at least the majority being totally fine with android slavery ("they're things")
KodeMage: People already shoot down drones...
TimbrePanic: I remember in Mankind Divided there are two separate cutscenes that play if you choose to ride the subway
KodeMage: it's happened
PMAvers: Ah yes, CyberLife. What if Hass-Bioriod was kinda bad at it.
AdmiralMemo: @tim19862 Been unemployed since Jan 6 and sometimes skipping eating certain days to save money. But my mental state is much better. I don't want to go postal anymore.
PMAvers: *Bioroid
MitchTheQuaker: @LoadingReadyRun well we definitly know there will be a group of people violently opposed to literal anything
OKB_1: Life-like androids won't happen all at once
lare291: It's more just racist thing. They hate androids because "they aren't us"
sopranocat: Like, the majority of humans have no empathy towards other humans whatsoever?
coolbond: Dear DR @loadingreadyrun and the giant triangle and the whole jewish armband is not obvious
zerg539: Ahh real Detroit shows itself
Vyous: Why did this society make a being that will ultimately be used as a work-horse and then give it feelings/desires that aren't to just work?
e_bloc: humans seem pretty opposed to anything that isn't their cohort
SajuukSjet: oh, did i see some AppleSeed Refs there in chat? :D
Alness49: Cats are evil except from Mr Wigglebutt
KodeMage: so, androids are so inexpensive someone who lives in a house like that can afford one... interesting
kat2kool: I mean the thing with human-like androids is that it would take so long to get to this point in development that surely people would be used to the idea by now. the protesters are acting like this is a new fad
Milambus: Also Detroit and the rest of Michigan in the 80's as the auto industry was automated more.
CleeKru: same with kids.....
ZachtlyAsIntended: As a species we still hate one another for trivial differences. When we create lifelike artificial life, it will be hated similarly.
stateofcomatose: I find it interesting that the man so pissed off at the android and blaming him for the lack of jobs actually inadvertently humanized the android.
CoyoteSans: @sopranocat That part I don't mind, they are literally built to serve humans, to make them possible to rebel against us is just really really dumb engineering.
OKB_1: My best friend is an Android.
RassilonDND: honestly, we need to move past productivity based capitalism. Wages already doesn't reflect this.
lare291: Kara's outfit is so cute IMO
tim19862: AdmiralMemo wow, I'm sorry to hear that. Good to hear you're feeling better mentally.
ZachtlyAsIntended: It will be a subsect of people, but it will still happen.
e_bloc: I think they only applied half of that badge :(
lare291: Kara is so cute
CleeKru: @lare291 yes
Metric_Furlong: now, if we using androids as a stand-in for an othered, subjegated minority, then the human population being violently hostile makes a lot of sense. but this game isn't political so that can't be it Kappa
OmnipotentTrevor: Funny you should say that. This game points out Canada has outright banned androids. You can read that in an optional magazine soon.
kumatsu: They're building an overpass over the neighborhood?
Alahmnat: is it time to bust out the "there's a lot to unpack here"? yet? ;)
Lancelive: @e_bloc triangles were also a badge back then :(
ZachtlyAsIntended: Is this where we re-itterate the content warning?
OKB_1: Blue triangle = forced labourer in Nazi-occupied Europe.
ShogunNoonto: You're on property that's on the verge of eminent domain
notBrunoAgain: There's not a lot to unpack here though
Aarek: Got to build byapasses
Gekyouryuu: welcome to "own a Flo from Progressive" simulator 2018
notBrunoAgain: Like this is all very shallow metaphors
sopranocat: it's all bad, it doesn't make sense and it paints a terrible picture of humanity, and I'd just once like to see someone take a different viewpoint of this future
ryuhimora: what
Drakas: so as some one with a disablity and needs a career to help with stuff the 10k for an android would be cheaper then to hire some one to look after me for a year and there would be less chance teyed would try and steal from me
e_bloc: @Lancelive :/ that is a gap in my knowledge, thank you for pointing it out
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ryuhimora: she was right there
Kykiwi: alice is like a cat
Dared00: Oh yeah, content warnings begin here
Papperslappen: They can build lifelike humanoid robots but are still building infrastructure for cars?
CleeKru: Kara got her name from todd's child
ZeniteZero: Offloading parenting responsibilities, nice.
Kykiwi: didnt even see her move
Contiguouskittycat: Oh so this is one of those homes. Just a stellar environment.
Rockario: @Vyous I think the story is ddoing the thing where "They weren't programmed with emotions, they're just supposed to act like it" but then they only show us androids who obviously do have emotions that people ignore
SquirrelLord1111: Ye
freshmaker__: yep
Lancelive: @e_bloc no worries, it's not a period of history I explore happily tbh
ryuhimora: content warning: chores
lare291: Content warning: Chores!
TheR676767: wizard chores, more like robot chores
MilkInBag: Todd in trash can
Rhynerd: Yup
tim19862: Really rundown house, but can afford a robot?
GDwarf: Can we put the man in the trash can?
lare291: Todd goes in trash can
CleeKru: @Rockario that's trhe difference from androids and the deviants we are following
PMAvers: Kara picks up Todd, puts in trash can.
CoyoteSans: @sopranocat I mean, I'd totally buy an affordable maid bot and not think twice about it. I wouldn't abuse it, but I wouldn't try to make friends with the glorified computer tower either.
e_bloc: @Lancelive I'm just bad at history, although I enjoy learning, no matter how depressing
Contiguouskittycat: Cam thought he had escaped the chores after leaving his home stream. Little did he now it would follow him here.
Metric_Furlong: Rockario to be fair, if the humans believe that they don't have real emoitons they'd be inclined to ignore signs to the contrary
CleeKru: *between
ZeniteZero: Wait, did she get... entertained by the hockey match?
AdmiralMemo: Robot controls other robots...
KodeMage: roomba recommends you name their robots, did you know?
lare291: Such a cute roomba!
sir_jack_DB: you go roomba!
GDwarf: One thing I did really like in Heavy Rain was the actual student animation they put on the TVs, that was really cool
ritchards: Roomba's Are People Too!
kat2kool: where's my 'give roomba a knife' option?!
Amentur: Knowing the story, I do not understand Todd
notarealartist: hope he dies
AdmiralMemo: I love it!
Drakas: so you wear talking about android kids it turns out latter on his kid is an android
PMAvers: Yes, now we have a ally in the battle against the scumlord.
TimbrePanic: Booo ooo
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: go roomba go!
PMAvers: Two robots on one.
KharadBanar: Why does she need to touch it? Is there no WiFi?
Contiguouskittycat: How lazy is this guy that he can't even turn on the fucking roomba?
sopranocat: @CoyoteSans If it looks like a person and talks like a person and they make it plain that it thinks and feels like a person and it LIVES with you?
silvalunae: Todd is the biggest douche in the universe
ZeniteZero: Hi-tech bin!
AdmiralMemo: Hah! Cam assumes we have recycling in the US! Kappa
silvalunae: the bin has a pocket dimension, shhhh
Kykiwi: they have new wave recycling or smth
Vyous: Ah, so I guess the conceit is that we are supposed to accept that "emotions evolved on their own" in androids?
accountmadeforants: Clearly they live in a society where all mass is recyclable.
swaggytaco: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 45:50.
sir_jack_DB: aaa fox fren
Milambus: And Michigan has a deposit on bottles
coolbond: i dont think it was violance towards the android here i think it was towards the kid
SquirrelLord1111: Interact with child
Lancelive: this fox is excellent
CleeKru: I'ts bigger on the inside!!!
notarealartist: totally not a drug dealer
GDwarf: I do like the fox, the fox is cute
hajnal_endot: percival?
Rockario: In the fantastic future, you ddon't need to seperate your recyclables it all just works
KodeMage: goal: ignore the drug deal happening
CoyoteSans: @sopranocat That's the thing, they're not supposed to feel. That literally a flaw in the programming they're trying to correct in this.
Alahmnat: god foxxo
Contiguouskittycat: Help child kill abusive parent?
Alness49: No robot means lots of takeout?
ANeMzero: I mean, when you have an unsleeping workforce of sentient androids you can maybe feasibly sort everything elsewhere?
Astra7525: he broke the only cook in the house for two weeks
ZeniteZero: So much pizza... like my place 😢
lare291: Recyclable bottles in trash?!!
kat2kool: @coolbond I'm guessing Kara was protecting the child and that's how she got damaged
AmoriLinguae: that's a magically big trash bin
MilkInBag: infinite trash can space
CleeKru: what @ryuhimora said
notBrunoAgain: Todd is a perfect lifetime movie idea of an abusive parent: he's instantly and constantly belligerent and drunk and seems to have no life or personality outside of being a belligerent drunk
freshmaker__: When you don't have an android to cook for you, you order pizza every night
CoyoteSans: @sopranocat I mean, I feel nothing for the Assistant on my phone, it's just a program to make using functions a little easier. This is jsut the logical extention of that.
MalBeam: paper plates too
korvys: Interesting that what appears to be a lower income family can afford an android.
AdmiralMemo: We just threw out the porcelain dishes?
MadRemedy: Trash 'em all, let the DPW sort 'em out.
Pal_Friendpatine: This game kinda makes me want to watch 2049 again
Nigouki: maybe they got highly efficient sorting facilities on the other end
lare291: @CoyoteSans You don't feel anything for the Assistant?!
sopranocat: @CoyoteSans Ah. Still.....people anthropormorphize so many things, I find it impossible to believe they'd not empathize with these androids that look and sound and act like us
midday_rendelnep: NZ thing too
freshmaker__: Does the US really not recycle? :S
quiksil102: no its not everyone knows how to recycle
AdmiralMemo: Separating trash really depends on the city/state and whether there even IS recycling.
niccus: they got robots sorting trash, don't worry about it
coolbond: and european
e_bloc: someplaces accept commingled recycling
MilkInBag: put yourself in the trash and live a new life
GDwarf: Welcome to David Cage games
SajuukSjet: depends if [insert region] has the waste management setup to handle it
kat2kool: wait, that isn't something everyone does? I'm in mainland Canada and we do that
accountmadeforants: Americans have whirly blade things in their sink to throw food down into the sewer, so yeah.
Juliamon: The US recycles where it can, but only when economically feasible
ritchards: walk out in front of bus...
CoyoteSans: @lare291 It's just a glorified Clippy, and it gets my orders wrong half the time anyway
chickenace11: also in some places you can't recycle food stained paper/cardboard
KodeMage: Yeah, our trash gets sorted by the trash company, they filter out glass, metal, but not paper or plastic
FurthestChunk55: it must be a trial to open the bin
lare291: I treat all AI I see as humans
coolbond: david cage games in a nutshell
CleeKru: it's proving a point
stateofcomatose: It depends on where you live, I have separated trash in the modsest
Vyous: Welcome to david cage games?
Digigoner: I think it's more dependant on where in the US they are. Places that have curbside pickup of recyclables are much more likely to recycle at all
Contiguouskittycat: I normally do separate my trash, but my current apartment complex doesn't do recycling so I don't here? It's often a function of specifically where you live.
GDwarf: It makes a kind of sense, it helps immerse you in the setting, at least in theory, but if you *aren't* feeling immersed then it's tedious and frustrating
notBrunoAgain: Yeah David Cage latched on to a really stupid idea of how you get player motivational alignment 20 years ago and I think he fires anyone who tries to tell him it's stupid
stateofcomatose: *Midwest
MousseFilledCat: The US recycles, just some people have it regionally and some don’t
ShogunNoonto: I mean we recycle but it's kind of like More of a city folk thing I guess
Alahmnat: dear steadycam, be more steady
AmoriLinguae: I have to say that not recycling has been more of a poor thing rather than a lack of ability thing here
KodeMage: very unusual
SquirrelLord1111: Interact with small child
Lancelive: David Cage: remember this bus. This bus will matter. Subtle.
coolbond: overcomplicated
killingact: should have put that guy in the trash
KharadBanar: @Juliamon So not everywhere they can then?
aussie_rob_w: @notbrunoagain For the purpose of the immediate story, yeah, he’s just Obviously A Jerk, he’s not allowed to be complex yet.
AdmiralMemo: For Detroit? Probably not.
AdmiralMemo: If it were Baltimore, I'd say yes.
PMAvers: Maybe transit is more common due to not needing to hire drivers?
KodeMage: only the edges of neighborhoods get public transit, and it's not great in detroit current day
Milambus: Detroit has public buses
CoyoteSans: Now, we are going to learn things this sequence that will make the entire conceit of this situation fall apart.
MousseFilledCat: I recycle almost everything because my area allows it, but many people don’t
Juliamon: KharadBanar "Recycling" in the US means "Selling recyclables to China"
Zhedor: The German army is required to seperate their trash even when abroad. In Afghanistan they carefully separated it into 4 different kinds. Then the afghani Garbage disposal came by and poured it all into the same truck :D
Alahmnat: it seems *extremely* unusual. especially on what looks like a side street.
Contiguouskittycat: If we scrubbed the floors and repainted the walls, this place would be halfway livable.
ritchards: He's a lovely man, and I'm glad we met him...
ZeniteZero: Man, I feel so bad for this kid moon2PH
CoyoteSans: Androids are literally the price of a new computer tower in this world.
notBrunoAgain: Did we walk back in and he's just straight up lighting up a meth pipe
Gekyouryuu: @LoadingReadyRun I forget the comedian's name, but this reminds me of a bit I saw a guy do about how video games are the only media that lock you out of the story if you're bad at it. "you don't read a book, and then three chapters in it snaps shut until you can name the major themes so far."
NathanJay_GA: ah yes, time for the David Cage staple of doing menial tasks for no reason
Pal_Friendpatine: Oh we recycle quite a bit but with the issues with China (where we send most of our recycling apparently) out recycling is getting put into landfills now. Even if we do separate
Kykiwi: LOL
Kykiwi: oh this
Astra7525: @Zhedor That is very German. Regulations are regulations. We have to follow them, even if it's stupid
silvalunae: that's todd
kat2kool: um
KharadBanar: @Juliamon Seems reasonable. Those cargo ships wouldn't have anything other to do otherwise Kappa
CleeKru: can we all agree on not spoil that one thing everyone that played the game knows and absolutly destroyed me
Kykiwi: todd is getting high in that sence
Lancelive: at least there are no shower scenes in this one, unlike literally every other David Cage game
ZeniteZero: Jeepers, that mess
ritchards: Is Burn Down House an option?
Contiguouskittycat: @CoyoteSans yeah, it's established that even new they cost just a few grand.
AdmiralMemo: @Alahmnat Well, some of our bus routes got changed to go down residential streets and people in Baltimore were NOT HAPPY about it.
Juliamon: KharadBanar if it costs a city more to collect recycling than they get back from selling it, they don't bother
Alahmnat: Ventilate Todd 's room
Zhedor: @Astra7525 true, it still amuses me though ;)
NathanJay_GA: Sports! Personally, I love them
ryuhimora: future science magazine
kat2kool: I like that the helmet also has the forehead circle
Astra7525: @Zhedor We're very orderly people
coolbond: andorid quaterback cant be safe
notBrunoAgain: So this won't be familiar to non- American Football players, but the first black quarterback in the NFL was a big deal.
Nigouki: an android getting repossessed seems incredibly repressing, especially if they're the only ones keeping the home livable while the people have to work 3 jobs each to try and get out of debt
wicker_knight: I mean, football is extremely unsafe
silvalunae: i bet that was intentional tho, cam
wicker_knight: android or otherwise
ryuhimora: why is it swipe down to next page?
Nigouki: *depressing
notBrunoAgain: And black QBs in the NFL got a lot of grief for a long time and still do
CoyoteSans: Like, in this game, it becomes increasingly glaringly obvious the androids can become sapient and thus deserve rights... but realistically, we are decades from that point in robot development.
Zhedor: @Astra7525 not by the look of my flat e're not :D
hajnal_endot: clearly we need the robot football players to be remote controlled
Alness49: I imagine Cybernetic Football is something akin to Blood Bowl
ZeniteZero: O__O
KodeMage: it's america, there are guns everywhere
ANeMzero: Glad we've already seen checkovs gun
MalBeam: the car determines life expentancy before running them over
Contiguouskittycat: I wonder why the handle said Chekov on it?
MadRemedy: G U N #murica
CleeKru: @ANeMzero literally
KharadBanar: @Juliamon Living in a city that just pays for its recycling as a matter of course, I wouldn't even have thought of that as a possibility.
AdmiralMemo: Driverless vehicles with decision making... I already saw that with Mind Field (VSauce)
notBrunoAgain: For a long time the idea was that black players were okay as linemen but positions like quarterback require "intelligence" and "strategic thinking" so you imagine how that went
Ridgenator: the good old guns'n'drugs drawer
Dared00: You've unlocked a GUN, often beneficial.
AmoriLinguae: yes, I want my meds put away where they're harder to get
ryuhimora: so NOW we get a montage
Alahmnat: she must be a robot, I've never flipped out a sheet like that perfectly in one go
SquirrelLord1111: Please interact with small child to defy todd
TheWriterAleph: do all futurefolk wear latex uniforms or is it just the robuts?
wicker_knight: robuts
ritchards: Sort Magic Cards by Numerical Order...
SajuukSjet: oh! [Kara].... wasn't that the demo android name?
ryuhimora: just the robuts
KidSpanner: David Cage really does love making people do chores.
wicker_knight: helps show off those ro-butts
lare291: I probably couldn't play the game properly and get immersed in the story because I'd just be gushing about how cute she is
AdmiralMemo: Processing... Processing...
ryuhimora: if an android (gynoid, whatever) steps in to defend a child against an abusive parent, would that be covered under existing self defense laws?
KodeMage: @ritchards Set first! or you're in big trouble
aussie_rob_w: @sajuuksjet yes indeed
NathanJay_GA: I dont know why, but the speakers being on different levels is kinda irritating
notBrunoAgain: So this idea of an android quarterback kind of reinforces the metaphor even more, because when black players started being fielded as QBs in the NFL this was something that racist fans reacted to
freshmaker__: I think yellow might be processing?
tim19862: WutFace
Kykiwi: ps4 motion controlls ! the fuuuuutre
MadRemedy: Okay so I get that there's a lot of clutter, but can we do something about the disgusting walls? They're horrible.
Fancy_frenchman: Have I missed 28 S.W. or is it coming up?
ZeniteZero: Motion controls NotLikeThis
fritobandeeto: ä AWESOME spirt of Detroit statue
e_bloc: tbf racist fans still react to black athletes
TimbrePanic: he's pullin a MR X
Astra7525: I really dislike it when the game hides info from the player even though the character we control got it
ryuhimora: ha
ContingentCat: Thankyou game
Alness49: "My sensory apperatus can be deactivated"
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: whew
ryuhimora: THAT is the line the game draws
aussie_rob_w: Oh yeah. Those will be removed in the 4K remaster.
swaggytaco: lets hope the androids don't have a sense of smell
AmoriLinguae: these controls are 100% disability friendly /s
Kykiwi: the grunting was todd getting high
PMAvers: On a Beej scale, that was probably a level 3 dooker.
AdmiralMemo: Alice is afraid of the android?
TimbrePanic: Awww she has a little tent propped up
wicker_knight: it's a strange adult that her father doesn't like
Alahmnat: like a vampire, androids must be invited in
wicker_knight: makes sense she'd be bothered
KodeMage: that's some nice social interaction programming, asking permission, reading the child's emotion, almost empathic
Dared00: Do you have plans to play Until Dawn sometime in the future, for a comparison between Detroit and an actually good "cinematic game"?
ryuhimora: Ventilated room. Mission complete!
CleeKru: Alice is great
SquirrelLord1111: No interact with child, must save child
coolbond: escape path and escape weapon
ritchards: this kid has a HUGE room considering
PixelSavage: ok so they live in an absolutely trashy place and neighbourhood but can afford an android .... what is this world/scenario?
RassilonDND: question: are these faces in the uncanny valley? if so where do they fall? closer to the realistic or closer to fake?
Master_Gunner: Ah, the carefully cut camera shots to avoid animating moving fabric.
aussie_rob_w: Androids = cheap.
wicker_knight: @PixelSavage they've explicitly overdrawn on their loans to get the android
niccus: it's very close to jumping out on the other side of the valley
CoyoteSans: why are the books onthe shelf way too high for a child to reach
CleeKru: @RassilonDND i would say fake
OKB_1: @ritchards it's a video game room. The camera has to fit in to it as well.
notBrunoAgain: The uncanny valley isn't a cut and dried thing but I think the character animations in this game make it quite uncanny
CleeKru: they are to clean
KodeMage: that's some advanced art there
DetectiveKeywi: Beautiful art
GDwarf: Gotta clean that wall, clearly
CleeKru: *too
ContingentCat: and the trial and error of seeing people react badly when we are bad to them
NathanJay_GA: SO good
ryuhimora: @RassilonDND they look more real than fake to me. I can tell its a game but they put a lot of effort into the faces.
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: i, for one, enjoy the occasional motion control thingy. i like the interactivity.
PixelSavage: @wicker_knight and then treat it like trash ... this also doesnt make much sense :D
silvalunae: i think one of the development videos said the androids cost about 7k
ZeniteZero: I have a feeling that reading emotions is a separate skill from reacting to them in accordance to social expectations
niccus: it's not particularly repulsive until you get to shots that reallllly try to focus on faces
VelvetFalcon: Ruh roh, it's the problematic fav.
CleeKru: yes
notBrunoAgain: Like the faces play better than the overall body movements but the body language is real bad
wicker_knight: Go Ask Alice
DetectiveKeywi: I love this game
ryuhimora: it's been more than two minutes, mission failed
ArcOfTheConclave: She went to other places to!
SquirrelLord1111: Friendly
wicker_knight: @PixelSavage yeah, I've never seen the end of this scenario so I don't know if there's an explanation for that
Papperslappen: I don't know if it is mentioned in this game but I imagine that these robots are sold with horrible, hard to get out of, monthly plans
AdmiralMemo: @ZeniteZero Definitely. I have trouble reading emotions personally, and then, separately, I might react inappropriately with social situations.
ArcOfTheConclave: She went into a looking glass.
Astra7525: I bet it was her Mom's name
ritchards: You're Not My Mother!
ryuhimora: oh god, a phone contract for an android? that sounds like the worst hardware thing ever
CleeKru: read the Room KARA
OKB_1: @ryuhimora Where would you put the SIM?
wicker_knight: SideQuest GET
Contiguouskittycat: This is the key to the guns!
TimbrePanic: here I thought she gave her a lego
ZeniteZero: @AdmiralMemo I usually can read emotions, but I do not respond as expected to them 😅
ryuhimora: @OKB_1 do you really have to ask
OKB_1: @ryuhimora of course
RassilonDND: I mean a great question they failed to ask is how robots will shape what being human is. Like Cam was saying, humans learn empathy through watching people. how much will children learn from robot behaviors? how much will people learn from how we react with robots.
TimbrePanic: ahaaaha
KidSpanner: Neice.
ANeMzero: Niece
korvys: Neice
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GDwarf: I will say that I love all the little touches in this game. I have issues with the big stuff, but the details are well done
aussie_rob_w: 080.8 is apparently about drawing conclusions.
ZeniteZero: I wonder about the choice of name for the kid... Alice, besides Wonderland, relates to typical communication scenarios ("Alice communicates with Bob")... I wonder...
margieargie: Niecedaughter.
notBrunoAgain: I love photos in video games that look nothing like the people in the actual game
NathanJay_GA: So, when does Willem Dafoe make his appearance?
ZeniteZero: Oh noes....
AdmiralMemo: @margieargie West Virginia? Kappa
sir_jack_DB: eeeegh
lare291: @ZeniteZero Computer references?
sir_jack_DB: oh fuck
MilkInBag: kara became a sprinkler
AdmiralMemo: Hit by a truck. Yeah.
ritchards: Red Ring!
sir_jack_DB: this kid has seen some shity
KodeMage: oh, good, he gets drunk and beats the robot...
notBrunoAgain: Nice of this child to leave perfectly arranged stacks of sequential art inside a box for you to find
ZeniteZero: @lare291 I think so, maybe
MilkInBag: was that a CoD reference Cam
CleeKru: @ritchards well gonna have to send it in again
lare291: @KodeMage Or beats the kid and Kara tries to stop him?
wicker_knight: wait, was that something Cage said?
HondoTrigger: If you make one more allegory, I'm sending you to bed without supper
ryuhimora: The game is saying nothing, move along
KodeMage: @lare291 yeah, seems like an option
wicker_knight: I only joined a couple minutes ago, was that discussed at the start
AdmiralMemo: Haha
HondoTrigger: "EXPERIENCED" gameplay
NimrodXIV: press X to mop
ArcOfTheConclave: Gameplay!
Vyous: David Cage intensifies.
MalBeam: tactile interaction
TimbrePanic: Mopping the floor again huh Cage?
Lancelive: this is such a bad mop
notBrunoAgain: we're gonna immerse you in the world of this character by giving you REAL RSI
KodeMage: @lare291 she was told to take care of the kid
ryuhimora: This is Heavy Rain all over again!
TheR676767: by god we're gonna use every control out there
ZeniteZero: LUL
MilkInBag: LUL
kat2kool: oh GOD
wicker_knight: lrrSPOOP
silvalunae: oh no
AdmiralMemo: Welp
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: oh
CleeKru: ???
ryuhimora: NO
swaggytaco: yuckkkkk
aussie_rob_w: @wicker_knight yeah, basically.
sopranocat: huh??
DennyMcG: noooooo
TemporallyAwry: I just screamed a little
Alahmnat: oh NO
8_Bit_Unicorn: oh no
Metric_Furlong: oh noooo
ContingentCat: OH
VelvetFalcon: @ryuhimora It says a lot of things poorly, and that's worth talking about.
sir_jack_DB: UM.
tim19862: huh?
Papperslappen: ewwww
coolbond: oh god
Astra7525: gross gross gross
MilkInBag: (not) shiny and chrome
CleeKru: ohhhhhh.... damn
stateofcomatose: Well THAT'S gross
sopranocat: why is that a problem?
Rivulatus_: sounds a lot like my current abode
notBrunoAgain: I mean I am here to dunk on this game ;)
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: i had a similar experience Cam...
DetectiveKeywi: This game is amazing. Shhhh
tim19862: oh! lrrSPOOP
kat2kool: well, only if it deserves it
ryuhimora: @VelvetFalcon was parroting the developer
forlornhope22: Some dunking is warrented.
ContingentCat: we're not?
TheWriterAleph: story is meh, storytelling is pretty good
notBrunoAgain: My dunking is highly qualified tho
AmoriLinguae: One time I moved into a place with cool wrought iron fixtures... that were copper
Vyous: Has Cam played Heavy Rain?
ZeniteZero: This game is rather interesting. I love when games tackle important themes
NathanJay_GA: It's "bold"
AdmiralMemo: My house had walls painted with what I termed "nico-green" (as the previous owner was a heavy smoker over the course of 60-odd years)
wicker_knight: @sopranocat it means that dirt had been caked so thoroughly on the thing he thought the base color was brownish, not silvery
VelvetFalcon: @ryuhimora Fair, sorry, chat doesn't give a lot of context.
sir_jack_DB: like, it's getting uncomfortable and I think I'm okay with that, it can just be a bit clunky
CleeKru: well.... a android hostage negotiation
sopranocat: Oh. Oh god
silvalunae: and here we have an example of "projecting"
MilkInBag: economic anxiety?
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: the way it plays can be an interesting experience. but the writing/script etc needs to be interesting.
DetectiveKeywi: You have to play the entire game to fully appreciate it imo
coolbond: its just a shame david cage is hamfisted with story telling
ContingentCat: oh no
Lancelive: Todd has so many dimensions, like maybe one
VelvetFalcon: Chair! No!
ZeniteZero: Oh noooooo
SquirrelLord1111: Rescue the small child
ANeMzero: Self Fulfilling prophecy!
kat2kool: I see we're going the subtle route
CleeKru: @Lancelive (kill him)
notarealartist: :(
Bradway1: Hey, David... We need to talk about your story writing
OKB_1: Tears deployed
AdmiralMemo: He needs a therapist... Can he afford one?
Lithobraker: Could someone let me know when the stuff ends?
KodeMage: so, he's bipolar
Juliamon: Look at this complex, compelling character that we empathize with completely
NexVesica: The game is....okay. I mean, for a David Cage game it is pretty good, but there are still a lot of Cage-related flaws
Lancelive: @CleeKru *mashes button to kill Todd*
sopranocat: Well THAT'S poor design in and of itself
PMAvers: Might be some sort of privacy setting.
NimrodXIV: lrrGARBO
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo might have been a better investment than a new girlbot
CoyoteSans: @AdmiralMemo He cana afford a maid droid... but not pay his bills or a therapist.
CoyoteSans: 'Murica.
ContingentCat: @Lithobraker stuff over I think
KodeMage: they would have a duty not to report some things, for privacy reasons, people wouldn't buy them if they had to report at all
notBrunoAgain: On the one hand, androids not having a duty to report makes sense if they're property. I mean who would buy a consumer electronic that constantly spies on you and might snitch on you to the cops? That's just unrealistic.
caulderjof: I found the maid's storyline to be the only one I could invest in at all.
Balthasar_Wiseman: THis is in the US so the duty to report would probably have been challenged and removed.
ANeMzero: @wicker_knight She wasn't new, just recently repaired/reset
Lancelive: Jesse Williams
wicker_knight: or secretly recording all your information just for internal purposes
silvalunae: if your android could tell on you, others would think their android is always watching them too; it's like the phone/tv listening problem
sopranocat: Can't see that happening based on our current government. They can get our phone calls without a subpoena
AdmiralMemo: @notBrunoAgain I sense sarcasm.
Kykiwi: lol
KodeMage: the guy from GOT
RassilonDND: got there.
ryuhimora: @notBrunoAgain I know, right? that would be silly
CoyoteSans: Time to meet Cage's extremely obvious self-insert.
CleeKru: haha
Zanaide: He was in Cabin in the Woods
ZeniteZero: You'd assume that such advanced AI could report concerning/illegal facts to authorities and keep everything else private...
Lancelive: he is a beautiful man
Gekyouryuu: @Zanaide he was? I loved that movie
ayirbudd: wait who is he in GoT?
sopranocat: HAHAHA...ha.....ooooh
notBrunoAgain: blep
TimbrePanic: And Lance Henriksen
KodeMage: no, it's not the same guy
AdmiralMemo: @ayirbudd The robot dude, apparently?
notBrunoAgain: that deer is blepping
ryuhimora: uh
HondoTrigger: forsooth and shit
ContingentCat: ah an art
EvilBadman: @KodeMage Are you confusing him with Grey Worm
kat2kool: lewd
KodeMage: I thought it was worm
Alahmnat: those carpet cleats are a huge tripping hazard...
DentedPockets: TOS?
KodeMage: it is not
Bradway1: Hmm... I'm getting some bad political vibes from this whole environment
RassilonDND: question: do you believe rich people will treat robots better in real life? personal experience tells me otherwise.
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: TOS
Alness49: Making some more antellope
CrazymattCaptain: art
CleeKru: he got money
stateofcomatose: lewd
AdmiralMemo: What a lovely room of DEATH
ZeniteZero: In my experience, rich old people are usually far from nice T_T
KodeMage: @EvilBadman correct, I got there
notBrunoAgain: Maybe the plesiosaur is a reproduction
Dared00: It's 2038, plesiosaurs are legal now
ayirbudd: yeah i dont think he is grey worm haha
ArcOfTheConclave: might be a replica
aussie_rob_w: @coyotesans what, the old guy or his kid with a drug problem?
sir_jack_DB: looks ichthyosaur to me, both cool though
ContingentCat: ah so they have that kind of money
swaggytaco: legalize it!
Ivannorr: Did they hunt it themselves?
CleeKru: with money anything can be legal
ryuhimora: @RassilonDND no. they will be more likely to treat them badly.
MilkInBag: Coral&?
CleeKru: !
Zanaide: Yep, @Gekyouryuu. He played Holden.
staticdisplay: "Take care" of carl?
KodeMage: I'm alwys terrible at that, and then I double guess myself
silvalunae: carl is a weird acception to the rich guy is a douche tho
OKB_1: Founders keepers
Lithobraker: Yeah, "take care of him"
AdmiralMemo: Draw curtains? But I don't have an art module installed!
aussie_rob_w: Murderbot!
wicker_knight: Look, if you can afford to make your chandelier a plesiosaur, you can afford not to care what the law says about owning a plesiosaur
CoyoteSans: @aussie_rob_w Old guy, he's the coolest dude in the game, and literally the only person who treats androids well.
ZeniteZero: Tattoo'd old man PogChamp
KodeMage: like the girl in the one love death and robots short is ramona flowers, but my sister kept telling me it wasnt, but it was
Galactic_pain: The plesiosaur could be a plaster cast
CoyoteSans: and he goes on and on about "ze art"
AmoriLinguae: I thought draw curtains meant close them?
CleeKru: ?
CompletelyUnsure: !uptime
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wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans "well" is...I would challenge that somewhat
VelvetFalcon: Jesse Williams is the "Smart Boy" from Cabin in the Woods.
MalBeam: Cam pls
TimbrePanic: What you on about Cameron
Lithobraker: can someone explain the joek
VelvetFalcon: But not the actual smart boy, the fake smart boy.
Gekyouryuu: @Zanaide awesome! I usually just remember that it has Chris Hemsworth looking younger than he did in Thor, which came out earlier, because Cabin was filmed first. also, the girl he hooks up with was a Power Ranger
KharadBanar: What is Cam referencing?
CoyoteSans: @wicker_knight I mean, compared to Todd, the man is positively angelic.
sopranocat: oh, it's whats-his-face
KodeMage: to be fair the reason I don't forget everything is because I use my android to remember it too...
WhaDidBeejPutInDPie: what won i don't ever TV
kat2kool: @KharadBanar Green Book
sir_jack_DB: rad tattoos
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans oh sure
zerg539: They are Legal at least in the US there used to be a Store in Savannah Georgia that sold Fossils including whole specimens. One time when i was in there they had an entire Ankylosaur available and a Megalodon Jaw
TimbrePanic: Green Book?
ryuhimora: oh my god, what happens when the androids learn to snark?
AdmiralMemo: Adam: The Senior Years
TimbrePanic: or Bohemian?
KharadBanar: Thanks @kat2kool
caulderjof: What I found most interesting about this world building is that it seemed clear that the robots are designed to "break free" as the one in the first scene does, but only under duress. And they can only feel duress because someone found a way to program emotions into them, and then programmed a emotion suppression system. It's very silly.
CleeKru: ahhh yes the philosoph
ContingentCat: Jesse Williams is also in Grey's Anatomy, he's very pretty he gets in a bunch of things
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans but I would still place him similar, to, say, Benedict Cumberbatch's character from 12 Years a Slave
Lithobraker: ooooff Cam
CoyoteSans: I have a piece of Titanic coal that was sold at that exhibit years ago. It's probably not very kosher for me to keep it.
Gekyouryuu: Driving Miss Daisy?
kat2kool: The Help?
tvenn: bryan cranston and kevin hart
SK__Ren: ^
staticdisplay: Driving miss daidy
HondoTrigger: the one with Bryan Cranston?
Izandai: Driving Miss Daisy?
MilkInBag: Les Invincibles
TimbrePanic: Untouchable?
KodeMage: driving miss daisy
MilkInBag: Les Intouchables
OKB_1: Green Book, General Gadaffi's political manifest?
theambivalentagender: Driving Miss Daisy
Lithobraker: The untouchables
notBrunoAgain: There are so many movies about this that they all just blur
ryuhimora: gotta love that CNT muscle fiber
NexVesica: Spider-man
niccus: can't piledrive the guy
TimbrePanic: that french film
SK__Ren: Oh with Kevint Hart
Astra7525: Do you mean the French film they are remaking as American right now?
Vyous: Do the right thing or the fancy movie won't play
AdmiralMemo: That cat is FREAKY
ZachtlyAsIntended: @niccus I want that in this game.
CleeKru: @caulderjof yeah but it is explained by the creater being a "revolutionair" and crazy person
Izandai: Are you thinking of Driving Miss Daisy?
wicker_knight: The Upside is the one from last year
MilkInBag: it's a french movie
Dared00: Can you yeet him
Invitare: do androids only come in Human? Can I have a giant robotic chicken?
staticdisplay: I think he means the one with Bryan Cranston but IDK what it was called
Nigouki: is there even failure states i this game? or just BAD END here and there?
wicker_knight: oh no, this year
silvalunae: hell no
kat2kool: props to this game for showing an older person with sweet tats. doesn't happen often
SK__Ren: The movie is called "The Upside"
ZeniteZero: Fair point...
notBrunoAgain: Regardless of android strength it seems like the fireman carry would be uncomfortable and demeaning relative to just sticking him in a weelchair
caulderjof: @CleeKru Aw, "crazy" the easy way out of any bad writing.
Lithobraker: It was remade for the US as "The Upside"
TheWriterAleph: why can't old man get robot legs?
NexVesica: Characters can die, but the story continues
Zhedor: The Upside is the remake of a french movie from a couple years back
OKB_1: Cam, you're talking about "The Intouchables"
Invitare: I would like a metallic horror
aussie_rob_w: @coyotesans what do you even do with a piece of history like that?
sir_jack_DB: that is such a cool door
Astra7525: +1 to @OKB_1
wicker_knight: would _I_ want that, or would the majority of people?
KodeMage: non-humanoid form factors would be vastly superior
CleeKru: @caulderjof that was not a good description but... yes
ryuhimora: just turn on a dime in a wheelchair, no problem
VelvetFalcon: "If you take my hand off, there's a loofa inside!"
Last1031: i would not want Jonny 5 giving me a bath
TimbrePanic: Like a block of tofu
OKB_1: Overrated movie to be honest…
sopranocat: @Invitare Yeah, I want a troop of robot cats in various sizes! With purr and pettable purr
wicker_knight: I would, yes. but I suspect most people would not
sopranocat: Fur*
CleeKru: @caulderjof by me
TehAmelie: my cousin is a personal assistant, and judging by how she describes most her users they would prefer a human to lord over
ryuhimora: too fast
TimbrePanic: Weeeeee
AdmiralMemo: My grandpa had one of those. It was neat.
Stoffern: goodbye
ZeniteZero: Weeeeee
TemporallyAwry: That is a fast chairlift.
lare291: Weeeee
NathanJay_GA: thats a fast lift
ContingentCat: speedy chair thing
CleeKru: no
TheWriterAleph: slidewhistle.wav
ANeMzero: They're not usually that fast
MadRemedy: That is a dangerously fast chairlift
Zhedor: I'd prefer a slide
staticdisplay: That shit drives me up the wall
wicker_knight: you already get that in real life too
Astra7525: Who doesn't want to trade exciting rides in a chairlift for being able to poop by yourself
wicker_knight: it's just expensive
Vyous: WOW
CleeKru: @staticdisplay no
tim19862: LUL
AdmiralMemo: Life is a rail shooter?
TimbrePanic: Carl lives the fast and furious life
KodeMage: sometimes a rail is just a rail
MilkInBag: waiiiiiit, in what world would we commercialize androids BEFORE exoskeletons for disabled
OKB_1: Very cool looking wheelchair I have to say.
Lithobraker: dude has a zebra rug!
ryuhimora: the middle????
VelvetFalcon: Why wouldn't you just have Markus carry you down like a you're a toddler who's all tuckered out?
wicker_knight: @MilkInBag David Cage-land
tenthtechpriest: the real rails was the game you played along the way
lare291: Wow, middle? Really?
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sir_jack_DB: pocket doors everywhere is living your best life
ryuhimora: that oven is TINY
KodeMage: he just gonna sit there?
Alahmnat: I'm a little surprised there wasn't a "park the wheelchair using the motion controller" minigame
Zanaide: I would totally be Lance Henriksen's robot friend.
MilkInBag: smash the boomers
niccus: the game addresses the millenial thing
wicker_knight: it's when Nirvana fans turn 80
KodeMage: a literal silver platter...
staticdisplay: I'm 50, I know people with sleeves
niccus: one of the better notes of the game
gizmofreak1: aren't you supposed to be a cop in this game?
notarealartist: oh he's 50ish?
lare291: Android, not robot
freshmaker__: Ah so this is what my mother will look like in whatever year this is.
ContingentCat: you can get tattoos when you're old, my mom got her first tattoos when she was 50
lare291: Don't be insensitive
CoyoteSans: @gizmofreak1 The cop is one of three characters you control in this game.
ZeniteZero: I always wonder that about my friends' tattoos... "how's that gonna look like when you're 65?"
wicker_knight: @gizmofreak1 you bounce between several different substories
MadRemedy: Maybe he's only 45 and just smoked a lot of crack
VelvetFalcon: Oh! I never noticed his sleeves!
ContingentCat: maybe they were his midlife crisis
silvalunae: @notarealartist i think they mean in the year we are now?
AdmiralMemo: So Millennials would be... Around 56 or so?
CoyoteSans: also, ww3 is kinda starting in the background, no biggie
notarealartist: ah ok
gizmofreak1: oh okay that's neat
CoyoteSans: russia's trying to annex the artic circle and all
Lithobraker: what year is this again?
TimbrePanic: is that a scarf he's wearing? or something similar?
KodeMage: much less conversation than a human nurse, I've had a lot of nurses because of my heart condition and they are nearly all very chatty, part of their diagnostics I think
Spacecarl: Just tuned in and I hear my name. Wat
staticdisplay: AQlso Talking Sim is one of my favorite things on the internet, so Thanks for being here and doing what you do
MilkInBag: there are still news in the future?
ZeniteZero: Wait, the android... kills time? Whoa
AdmiralMemo: Millennials would be soon retiring...
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans *cough cough* UKRAINE
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo LUL
kat2kool: ooh and a chess timer too
Lancelive: german impressionist chess set
KodeMage: giraffe!
AdmiralMemo: Wait, you can play chess? Neat.
margieargie: They did indeed say "chairman".
ryuhimora: "play" "chess"
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: giraffe!
Tiber727: "I take your bell with my spiky piece!"
Nigouki: can you climb the giraffe?
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight I mean, yeah
swaggytaco: those stairs are so awkwards positioned
MilkInBag: they are
ArcOfTheConclave: Piano!
coolbond: iss russia employing the chinese tactics of gaslighting in this game?
silvalunae: they totally are
CleeKru: I never noticed that!!!
notBrunoAgain: The bunch of crap blocking the spiral staircase is a cute detail
Lithobraker: who's the current Sec Gen? I stopped paying attention after Mooon
freshmaker__: that is the heavy rain origami yeah
notBrunoAgain: Clearly they're not in use any more
sir_jack_DB: "Quantic Deluxe" wow xD
Astra7525: A "Quantic" piano... as in Quantic Dream?
CleeKru: O#
AdmiralMemo: Hopeful?
ArcOfTheConclave: hope
ryuhimora: oh wow the heavy rain thing
wicker_knight: Dag Hammerskold was the 2nd Secretary General
sopranocat: wow, choices?
VelvetFalcon: Imitate!
coolbond: intimate
swaggytaco: romance carl
ryuhimora: NO
TimbrePanic: Are you a master pianist Cori?
AdmiralMemo: I like this display
cmdrud87: the curent secgen is
wicker_knight: the current one is also European (Antonio Guterres from Portugal)
tenthtechpriest: RHYTHM CAFE
freshmaker__: Impromptu Rhythm Heaven
ZeniteZero: Goddarned weird controls
Rockario: It's like you're really playing piano!
Stoffern: Suddenly it sounded like I was back on the Obrah Dinn for a moment
ryuhimora: Rhythm Cafe, you mean
ContingentCat: speedrun strats
staticdisplay: Wasn't Kurt Waldheim SecGen at one point?
ryuhimora: two fingers
sopranocat: this is about the right tempo
wicker_knight: between the two was Kurt Waldheim from Austria
TimbrePanic: Play some beat saber instead Markus
B4rberblacksheep: Tbh that sounds like a good tempo
ANeMzero: Detroit: Become Cookies.
notBrunoAgain: how sick would it be if the options were like, "Emotional", "Enigmatic", "melancholic," and "Black Midi"
ZeniteZero: Weirdest cheet music ever
ZeniteZero: sheet*
Lithobraker: Why is the robot reading music? why not just have it downloaded to your head?
notarealartist: this sounds good
ContingentCat: probably legally distinct something
MilkInBag: this is Linkin Park
caulderjof: I missed the beginning, but did Cam/Cori experience my frustration with the negotiation? I felt like I would make a choice and the words he said would be completely different.
Tiber727: "All around me are familiar faces."
staticdisplay: @wicker_knight before the Nazi stuff came back to bite him yeah
ryuhimora: @Lithobraker might as well have the display for humans
hajnal_endot: why are his hands out of sync, is the real question
B4rberblacksheep: Looks like composed for this, here's the sheet music
Invitare: riveting gameplay?
lare291: Android, not robot
HondoTrigger: quick get the wotc marketing team
SajuukSjet: it does sound of the same compared to previous in game music
TimbrePanic: better than WOnderwall
ayirbudd: i like that he is basically reading a midi piano roll
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: just wait till someone works out the series of inputs that causes a memory leak
TheWriterAleph: FC!
TraceBullet: no sheet music, just a spectrogram
shinumei: In the End!
sopranocat: this is not a display for humans
AdmiralMemo: @notBrunoAgain Piano version of Bohemian Rhapsody?
CleeKru: roll credits?
wicker_knight: @staticdisplay I don't know anything about Waldheim. He had Nazi ties? lrrSPOOP
Invitare: Humanity disgusts me
ContingentCat: or maybe it would be easier to recognise at the intended pacing
Angnor33: I thought it looked like Bishop.
AdmiralMemo: @notBrunoAgain Because GenX?
TheR676767: "now here's wonderwall"
lare291: No political subtext? Ha
sopranocat: He says as telling him who to be
TheR676767: - less human
thenb44: are you guys going to play through this whole game? (please say yes)
kat2kool: This game is definitely not trying to say anything and this is definitely not the message of the game, nothing to see here
CoyoteSans: Thanks for that pep talk, Monsieur Cage.
lare291: "World hates different, be yourself!"
tenthtechpriest: don't let anyone say who you should be, I say, in effect telling you who you should be
B4rberblacksheep: Did more digging, apparantly they're all piano variants of game music
ZeniteZero: PogChamp
notarealartist: I WANT
staticdisplay: @wicker_knight yeah IIRC he covered them up for a long time but then they came out? Or he tried to act like what he did wasn't so bad
kat2kool: DUDE
CleeKru: @notarealartist yes
AdmiralMemo: I wouldn't recommend it
LbxAni: they've come a long way since Robocop
ZeniteZero: Detroit Become Awesome
MilkInBag: is this a catapult
MadRemedy: I would, I love it here.
Lithobraker: Detroit's really gentrified in the past 5 years.
sir_jack_DB: wow, this is RAD
Angnor33: No seatbelt?
sopranocat: safety harness
Lithobraker: Rent's super expensive now
notarealartist: oh my
caulderjof: Robot arm very smart. It never drop old man.
silvalunae: live on the edge, yolo
MilkInBag: Zima Blue?
ryuhimora: SUPER dangerous
CleeKru: +play wasted sound+
Zanaide: Lance don't need no safety harnesses!
wicker_knight: @staticdisplay fun -_-
Alness49: Look, he didn't get where he was by being "safe".
Galactic_pain: That's very blue... I LIKE IT
Lithobraker: The core of Detroit yes. The suburbs are still underserved
tehlordofelves: there's still a lot of parts that have been abandoned
Seagulyus: its because detroit is the place where androids are manufactured, as we've seen
zerg539: Well in the bits that people actually live there are still swathes of Urban wasteland
sopranocat: welp, I think we know how he dies and we have to fend for ourselves
Tiber727: There are nice areas of Detroit, and there are ****holes.
Seagulyus: but there is...well still terrible places
kat2kool: I think the armband was on our jacket
abaoa_qu: Cyclical, like everything else
lare291: Maybe the band is only needed when you go out
Amentur: Is it Zima Blue per chance?
AmoriLinguae: I mean capitalism encourages gentrification
Stoffern: armband is on the outer jacket
EvilBadman: You're not in public, so no armbad/jacket
staticdisplay: I mean you can buy a house for a dollar, so if you bring a six-pack and a can of paint you've increased the value of the house 15-fold
silvalunae: i think it's more for public display, so people can see you're an android from distance; you probably don't have to wear it in the house
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coolbond: Dear DR @loadingreadyrun im guessing the armband is only for indentification purposes outside
TehAmelie: ha, the one i liked too
DentedPockets: Was that a self-insert by David Cage?
hajnal_endot: i liked most of that show, but then, i feel like it was targeted squarely at people in my Taste Zone
MilkInBag: time to boot mario paint
ANeMzero: paint me like your french girls
B4rberblacksheep: Remember folks, you either have instant talent or you can't do it. No self development allowed.
Invitare: that was conveniently set up
AdmiralMemo: Titanium White... Thalo Blue...
Bradway1: *paints his ouwn technical blue prints*
tim19862: arm band, eh? Reminds me of the star of David Jewish people had to wear in Nazi Germany.
PMAvers: Someone grab the Mario Paint music for this segment IMO
Licourtrix: I feel like Markus does anytime I'm asked to do something artistic.
lare291: Now that I think of it. Androids learn. They are programmed to pretend to be human-like. -> They learn to pretend to have emotions, by actually having them
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CoyoteSans: This game has the problem that the longer you think about the defining societal conceit, the less sense it makes.
coolbond: carl
phenexian: The book Zima Blue and Other Stories is the only Alastair Reynolds book I'd emphatically recommend. Though I've enjoyed many others.
AdmiralMemo: Copy his painting. :D
AdmiralMemo: Paint Carl?
sopranocat: paint Carl?
VelvetFalcon: Desk
wicker_knight: @lare291 yeah, it's the same basic concept as used in Westworld, with different issues
coolbond: can you switch camera
omdorastrix: I feel that it's probably part of Carl's wishes. I got the impression he took off his coat because it was scuffed by the protesters. (in an attempt not to alrm carl..)
ZeniteZero: These AIs have every trace of a human spirit, only tonned down. Rebellion would always be on the horizon, it would seem.
SpoonfullOfSugar: dot matrix painting
Rockario: "Your telling me I bought this android for that much and now you want me to buy outfits andd stuff for it? What a cash-grab."
AdmiralMemo: He's painting like a printer.
MadRemedy: Kara is like a $8k model if iirc, I think he can afford a spare pair of pants
VelvetFalcon: Karl, definitely not a realist.
ZeniteZero: Printer LUL
Alahmnat: counterpoint, Tod doesn't seem like the type to invest in "care and feeding", so to speak
Nigouki: *stabs canvas*
NathanJay_GA: Y'know, the characters being androids seems like a good way to giva reason for stiff movement and animations
AmoriLinguae: fancy inkjet brushes
AdmiralMemo: Press X to close your eyes
MadRemedy: Press x to close eyes
sopranocat: paint a unicorn!
Despoiler98: true AIs should be able to develop something like an imagination right?
CoyoteSans: The androids in this game are basically the same as the ones in modern Westworld, in that significant negative stimuli is what usually induces deviancy.
caulderjof: I think Kara's owner doesn't care about her appearance, as she's just the object that's supposed to do all the chores.
ZeniteZero: Robot dreams PogChamp
MilkInBag: he's breaking into the matrix
B4rberblacksheep: What's the light doing
SquirrelLord1111: X
ryuhimora: paint a Mareep
sopranocat: identity
Despoiler98: Identity
AdmiralMemo: O
kat2kool: This is definitely better than Beyond Two Souls so far at least
AdmiralMemo: Ooh
MilkInBag: despair PogChamp
OKB_1: *paints electric sheep*
Kykiwi: despair!
Lithobraker: prisoner!
ArcOfTheConclave: the yellow mark is a nice touch
PMAvers: Kara is basically a Roomba that can actually do stuff that requires hands.
VelvetFalcon: Doubts
TimbrePanic: Prisoner just went there
abaoa_qu: Im really enjoying this
freshmaker__: This game is really nice looking and I love a good number of the character interactions, but that's about as far as it gets.
wicker_knight: @PMAvers and is also more visually pleasing to MeanDad
Lithobraker: I just want him to paint a coming robot apocalypse
AdmiralMemo: This is a good story so far.
ZeniteZero: Processing... processing...
ryuhimora: uh Markus you're not actually supposed to paint with your eyes closed
staticdisplay: Painting "There is only the Third Law"
hajnal_endot: when will he hit tj_max\
SixPairsOfFeet: did you know there's totally a brush that someone made that has a little camera between the bristles that lets you take the surface of anything, even animated, and paint with it?
ZeniteZero: Carl is in a very blue phase
Alahmnat: if it's full of eyeballs we know Google was involved in the AI
Despoiler98: wow
Despoiler98: uh oh
AdmiralMemo: The controls might be a bit much, but a good story.
caulderjof: For me, it just felt like this game thought it had a lot to say, but really all it ended up saying was "I read decades old scifi, aren't I smart to reuse some of those ideas?"
wicker_knight: Jesse Pinkman
sopranocat: so what drug is he on
freshmaker__: Jesse Pinkman is here
Galactic_pain: Just paints the ending scene of iRobot
wicker_knight: @sopranocat yes
TimbrePanic: hello obviously deadbeat son character type
ryuhimora: argh
accountmadeforants: Wasn't that the guy he was asking about earlier? At least he's shown up?
ZeniteZero: Dude is TWEAKING
notarealartist: drug money
Licourtrix: Leo walks like someone going through withdrawls. I'm...concerned I can see that.
coolbond: oh jesus christ this guy'
ryuhimora: woah, obvious drug addiction ticks
CoyoteSans: When your real son is so awful, you treat your robot caretaker like your son instead.
sir_jack_DB: you're just spare parts, aren't ya bud?
sopranocat: Welp, here's the moment of truth, can a robot be violent to save a life?
tenthtechpriest: it actually makes him breakfast
MilkInBag: weakest push NA
MostCallMe__Tim: Seriously, whats the point of androids? The human body isn't always the optimal chassis for many tasks. The only perk is interactivity, in which case people get bigoted over it.
Rockario: I think the answer to this guy's question is "baggage"
PMAvers: Well, Markus isn't doing all the drugs. Only the robot drugs Carl is cool with.
hajnal_endot: i'm not convinced david cage has met an addict
wicker_knight: @MostCallMe__Tim I mean, you've just described the reason
tastethebeams: BabyRage
sopranocat: oh, really? totally thought this would be it
Bradway1: I'm not convinced David Cage has met a human
kat2kool: there's a lot of accelerating from 1 to 100 going on with not much in between
OKB_1: What's he? 15?
Kykiwi: well that was a bit hamfisted
staticdisplay: I <3 Drugs
AdmiralMemo: @MostCallMe__Tim Familiarity, maybe?
wicker_knight: that's why they're so often used as a metaphor for servants, the poor, minorities, etc
tenthtechpriest: david cage is beyond human, clearly
Licourtrix: @MostCallMe__Tim Let's just say I'd prefer a human looking robot than a spider one.
ryuhimora: @Bradway1 what if this is David Cage's autobiography?
ZeniteZero: 56% through this scene
thenb44: you saw 56% of that scene
CoyoteSans: @Bradway1 The stats of what people choose stand in obvious defiance of what this game says humans are like and would treat androids.
Seagulyus: its the % unlocked of this flowchart
Vyous: 56% of possibilities unlocked?
nuninman: just this chapter
Despoiler98: oh god the game has flow charts slytqItsfine slytqWTF
LbxAni: doesn't it also show compared to friends?
Tiber727: @MostCallMe__Tim I suppose the point would be versatility instead of specializations. There'd be little point in AI if it can only do one task.
hoktauri: I'm liking bits of this but put it all together and it's uhhh.....
ZeniteZero: This game is quite long, tbh
MilkInBag: time to min max like a normal player OpieOP
LbxAni: oh, world is it
niccus: the flowchart's neat; maybe even bold since it undermines the illusion of having choices
EvilBadman: Stats are first first runs only, IIRC. If you replay the scene it won't change the percent
Alness49: I'm waiting for it's "So what"
notarealartist: uh oh
VelvetFalcon: Well that's enough excitement for this morning. Scrub me Markus.
sopranocat: Except Asimov did it much better
TimbrePanic: Or dogS what is this
TimbrePanic: ?
MostCallMe__Tim: @Tiber727 Still probably a more versatile form of bot than human body
sopranocat: And had optimism too
caulderjof: Two of my friends really like this game, and so I played with a fair chunk with them. In the end I just found it frustrating and silly at the same time, without adding any new ideas.
CoyoteSans: Apparently, Connor's actor likes quarter slight of hand tricks, and they incorporated that into the character.
tenthtechpriest: LAWBREAKING ANDROID
wicker_knight: I'm very much on the side that "intelligent" AI is not likely to be very much like the human analogues used in this or the stories it's inspired by
ContingentCat: Diet Asimov, all the fun robots none of the so what
niccus: oh god what was that quote from cage
abaoa_qu: But that is probably novel for a lot of people
Despoiler98: wait how can an android be a cop if he can't harm humans?
niccus: about there not being any work where the robots are sympathetic
caulderjof: For my friends who don't read scifi, it felt fresh, I guess.
MilkInBag: it scans the faces or else it gets the hose
sopranocat: And had many humans who empathized with robots too
Seagulyus: wait why is the name dempsey so familiar to me?
MostCallMe__Tim: only reason for bots is as a lightning rod for bigots
CoyoteSans: The thing is, we humans have the opposite problem: we anthropomorphize things way too EASILY.
sopranocat: Yeah, I think i'm going just go reread Caves of Steel, by everybody!
MostCallMe__Tim: androids I should say
caulderjof: @Despoiler98 It's not a cop, but a tool to assist the detective.
OKB_1: Speaking of Asimov… I'm going to bed. Probably reading a bit of Second Foundation before sleeping.
notarealartist: did you do the older guy behind?
wicker_knight: @Despoiler98 more a CSI/Analyst
Despoiler98: @caulderjof ok
niccus: oh did yall hear about what happened to Jibo
accountmadeforants: It's more polite than our facial tracking systems, at least.
Nigouki: sidequest: collect facial recognition and location data for Facebook
CoyoteSans: Soldiers mourn when their disarming bomb bots explode, and the world wept for a inactive MArs rover.
wicker_knight: with a bit of hostage negotiation
abaoa_qu: You are assuming people who were exposed to this game have read Asimov
MostCallMe__Tim: Is today an Asimov day instead of Stephenson?
caulderjof: @Despoiler98 They treat it like Microsoft giving the cops one of their diagnostic kits.
VelvetFalcon: Why can't they just make an I Robot miniseries?
Kerrisis: Sudden Clancy Brown!
kat2kool: ah of course, the most grizzled guy in the place
MilkInBag: subtle
AdmiralMemo: Wouldn't you know the race of the person you're looking for if you have access to whether the person is correct or not? So you could rule out certain people?
CoyoteSans: Our real problem will be assigning humanity to things that fundamentally don't have them, and making critical mistakes in the process.
freshmaker__: I wonder if you can trick an android's face scan with that anti-surveilance makeup/hair/clothes
NexVesica: Connor is specifically for dealing with deviant related stuff, I don't think he handles normal cop things
Kykiwi: why is the voice acting between the androids so different?
staticdisplay: Sergeant Zim!
Krysolit: Is anyone else's volume super quiet?
hajnal_endot: not an allegory:tm:
aussie_rob_w: He can throw shade now, that.s neat.
SixPairsOfFeet: yes rather quiet
caulderjof: This subplot kind of made me mad because I like Caves of Steel, and this felt like it was just ripping that plot off.
StarFreak359: Clancy Brown
TimbrePanic: Krysolit it is
SquareDotCube: Must... Doubt...
OKB_1: Initiate buddy-cop story!
freshmaker__: Also, for the record, that's Mr Krabs.
MilkInBag: he insists...he INSISTS
silvalunae: maybe just let the timer go off?
Krysolit: Thank you for confirmation ;)
ShadowAce0: Thats the warden from Shawshank right?
AdmiralMemo: Hahaha
CleeKru: BURN
sir_jack_DB: xD
tim19862: katesLol
TimbrePanic: why wont you like me HANK
KodeMage: oh, he knew...
quiksil102: be agressive!
staticdisplay: @ShadowAce0 The chief guard, but yeah
CleeKru: r/murderbywords
wicker_knight: come on LT, you got a job to do
ANeMzero: I'm a special model of investigative android and I can't understand simple idioms
Alness49: See, if I HAD free will I'd still make that response
MilkInBag: punch in the face, like a real man
AdmiralMemo: Also... do androids drink?
SquirrelLord1111: You need to act human is what he likes
tenthtechpriest: it's just like trying to do that in real life
VelvetFalcon: Anderson likes when you act human.
Licourtrix: @ANeMzero wonder how much exposure to them he's had?
AdmiralMemo: Oh that was in the game! I thought that police siren was outside my house.
Nigouki: that's what, a 60 year old car at that point?
CoyoteSans: @AdmiralMemo No, they don't ned sustainance, except presumably charging energy like a phone.
Lithobraker: Grizzled detective? According to media probably being a bit of an asshole.
offbeatwitch: oh hey the game installed
AdmiralMemo: Oh hey! You installed the game!
TimbrePanic: oh yay fully installed
TraceBullet: oh good, the game's installed
Seagulyus: the funny thing when you think about it is that rock music is all classics here
Gekyouryuu: you "be one of "the good ones" in their eyes." which is itslef REALLY problematic
Gekyouryuu: itself*
Seagulyus: PMAvers the game partial installed
wicker_knight: I dunno. You stay out of the way is the big thing I'd argue
NexVesica: It finished installing? Now the game truly begins
margieargie: @PMAvers Wait, there's a good version? Where? :p
wicker_knight: and that's...not really acceptable as an answer
Alness49: So I notice this police 'droid doesn't have a police uniform, or anything marking it as being on the force
TimbrePanic: Sure PARDNER
NexVesica: It isn't on the force
hajnal_endot: ooh the synths
Bradway1: Ah... Police Drones
ZeniteZero: This android looks like Joseph Gordon-Levitt
CoyoteSans: @Alness49 It's not actually an officier, it's kinda like robocop in that the corporation provided it, and he's here in an advisory role.
hajnal_endot: i'm actually really liking some of this soundtrack
VelvetFalcon: He's from the Robo Place.
swaggytaco: whataburger
Nigouki: wait, acetone?
wicker_knight: as someone earlier said, almost all the individual pieces are excellent in this game
notarealartist: looks hardcore
MilkInBag: CiGrip
quiksil102: red lyrium
ryuhimora: Red sand? BIOTIC GOD
SquirrelLord1111: You need to act human to get hank to like you.
Gekyouryuu: huh... so, we have Robo Cop on loan from Cyberdine. WHAT COULD GO WRONG? Kappa
hajnal_endot: something about VICTIM USED DRUGS is just amazing
Lithobraker: "acetone, lithium, and acid" some heck of a drug
ZeniteZero: Flects PogChamp
CoyoteSans: Someone did an anaylsis of that drug's components, and concluded it was the equivalent of chugging crystal bleach mixed with arsenic.
silvalunae: sluuuuurp
Nigouki: is acetone a precursor or an active ingredient?
warpspeed365: lrrWOW
offbeatwitch: the illusion of choice dot jpg
ContingentCat: ew
MilkInBag: wait, why wouldnt androids have fingerprints
Alahmnat: what do androids do for tactile control if they don't have prints?
AdmiralMemo: @Nigouki I mean... As long as blueprints still exist, acetone will be easy to obtain. Source: I worked at a print shop.
Alness49: "He was off his chips in Red Ice" "Ah, we have a Blooder"
freshmaker__: yum yum
Snowwraith: Or they wore gloves to not leave fingerprints?
Rhynerd: Guess who else like soace drugs
DennyMcG: Why is licking blood his first instinct
Gekyouryuu: programming?
CleeKru: coffee!!!
TemporallyAwry: I shall also make coffee.
notarealartist: can i have coffee?
Despoiler98: COFFEE
warpspeed365: Process?
ContingentCat: sergeHeart
CoyoteSans: @DennyMcG I guess he has a spectrometer in his mouth????
TimbrePanic: Coffee is fuel androids can't drink
wicker_knight: sergeHeart
sir_jack_DB: !break
NimrodXIV: hmm...the lieutenant said don't touch anything... but do we have fingerprints?
freshmaker__: @DennyMcG Licking is how he scans stuff.
ryuhimora: @DennyMcG forensic sensors in the mouth
Despoiler98: PROCESSING slytqItsfine slytqItsfine slytqItsfine slytqItsfine
Licourtrix: @DennyMcG I believe his mouth is a specialized analyzing tool as revealed in the first bit.
Rockario: Maybe androisd have texturedd fingers, but they don't have skin oils so they don't leave prints?
aussie_rob_w: Breakfast and coffee.
RiverBirch: 28 STAB WOUNDS.
Drakas: DennyMcG its his way of doing a blood test
Alahmnat: so many stabs
ContingentCat: owch
aussie_rob_w: @riverbirch that
Licourtrix: You'd think they'd leave prints in the blood and viscera that's accumulating on the blade as they use it.
aussie_rob_w: That’s a weird bit of self care but okay, you do you.
Despoiler98: That seems.....excessive
SixPairsOfFeet: if connor licked the lt's mouth, would he find out how to make him like him?
RiverBirch: 28 Bee Wounds.
ContingentCat: !advice
LRRbot: Get hecked up on cow juice.
ContingentCat: uhh
niccus: do it
Despoiler98: Um.....
CataclysmicReverb: Hey chat, am we became human yet?
Alahmnat: drink responsibly
Licourtrix: I'm lactose intolerant, I need better advice.
wicker_knight: Are we playing Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask?
RiverBirch: 28 Beer Cans
Despoiler98: mmmmmm beer
Despoiler98: 28 Oil cans
Gekyouryuu: the idea of putting a spectrometer in his mouth is a bit baffling, honestly. "hmm. some humans think our androids are blood thirsty, job stealing monsters. ...I KNOW! we'll replace the police with them and have them ingest blood!"
BirdSorcerer: Where else should an android store sensors like that? Elsewhere is possible but might be too jarring to an outside observer.
CleeKru: 28 Tin cans
NimrodXIV: Licourtrix what makes you think cow juice is milk?
CleeKru: get it
RiverBirch: 28 Simulators
CleeKru: bc they call androids tin cans?
CleeKru: nevermind
Despoiler98: 28 STIMulators slytqGlare
Licourtrix: @NimrodXIV Thanks for making me more nauseous than the milk would've.
NimrodXIV: :D
wicker_knight: @Gekyouryuu <David Cage waves hands wildly> don't you see the symbolism? <Cage walks into nearby wall, turns, walks out door stage right>
RiverBirch: 28 Copies of David Cages Latest Game, Detroit Become Human
ContingentCat: is this David Cage guy related to Nick Cage?
Despoiler98: This game feels like Babies First Asimov story
wicker_knight: I do not believe so
hajnal_endot: i ordered an ssd at fuck o'clock in the morning and it's already out for delivery and very close. the future is weird.
Despoiler98: @hajnal_endot you ordered a Super Star Destroyer?! You can just....have those delivered!??!?!!
wicker_knight: @Despoiler98 Walmart
hajnal_endot: amazon delivers everything
wicker_knight: okay yeah that's better actually
hajnal_endot: that's how i got the breeder reactor
margieargie: Delivery's easy, finding the garage for it is the hard part.
hajnal_endot: honestly it's just easier to pay them the $50 to have it installed
Seagulyus: wicker_knight according to Cage there IS no symbolism. I mean, just because he uses Civil Right's messages, slogans, and concepts about a subservient race that is forced to do the dirty work of mankind and is reviled for "taking our jobs" among other things...its not about slavery! it's about ROBOTS!
Despoiler98: @Rockario shut up and take my money slytqWTF
Alexsandr13: This is interesting watching this play through as I watched ChristoperOdd play this around launch and I’m wondering h
wicker_knight: @Seagulyus well, still symbolism. Just, different less interesting symbolism
caulderjof: @Seagulyus Robots that magically feel emotions and are programmed to break free of their other programming.
hajnal_endot: also, i managed a 480GB SSD for $50, and that's bonkers as hell
Alexsandr13: What choices will be different
hajnal_endot: that's like a dime a gigabyte
Despoiler98: I know it's a drive but I'm imagining it's still shaped like a star destroyer :D
Despoiler98: *tries to jam it into drive slot* who fucking designed this ?
ContingentCat: @Seagulyus ugh can someone tell him that's not how symbolism works, he can say he didn't intend for it but he can't say it's not there
Alexsandr13: @hajnal_endot how did you get such a deal
wicker_knight: @ContingentCat David Cage does NOT subscribe to Death of the Author
hajnal_endot: inland professional stuff is dirt chea pand quite strong
hajnal_endot: cheap and*
hajnal_endot: microcenter house brand; you can get a terabyte for like a hundo
hajnal_endot: full 3d nand and with actual dram; they don't cheap out
wicker_knight: @hajnal_endot I worked for Microcenter for a few months, like, a decade ago. Are they still, kinda skeevy?
hajnal_endot: they've gotten better
wicker_knight: might have just been the place I worked at...
wicker_knight: okay cool
Alexsandr13: @seagulyus the symbolism is so obvious it hurts but I do think it’s an interesting conversation to have about if we achieve truly self aware ai are we just repeating past horrors with new victims
hajnal_endot: and now they've got pretty ludicrous deals quite regularly, like $80 ryzen 5 chips and the aforementioned 1tb ssds for $100
notBrunoAgain: I mean the inherent problem with this narrative is the idea that racism is a past horror and not a very current one
margieargie: I mean, that's a conversation we've been having since literally the word "robot" was invented.
MilkInBag: @hajnal_endot 1 TB for $100? 👀
wicker_knight: @Seagulyus amusingly, I kind of wonder if in Cage's mind the symbolism isn't nearly as muddled as it seems to outsiders, since most of the muddling comes with how he's crossed different symbols seemingly at random
wicker_knight: I would say the word "robot" implies the conversation, considering it means "slave" in polish, doesn't it?
Alexsandr13: @notbrunoagain very true
hajnal_endot: @MilkInBag i really want to pick one up and deshittify my laptop
Despoiler98: Is it "racism" if its a completely separate species?
notBrunoAgain: "Robot" means "slave" in Czech
Seagulyus: wicker_knight Cage doesn't think. he feels :V
notBrunoAgain: Or rather, "robota" does
wicker_knight: Czech, right
caulderjof: I think Cage just imagines that Doing A Movie in a video game makes video games "proper art."
notBrunoAgain: Cognates of that word in other Slavic languages often have more general senses of "worker"
wicker_knight: @Despoiler98 that's why prejudice is the better word
Seagulyus: Alexsandr13 look up the Sterling jimquisition from...this past sunday. he actually talks about it
Despoiler98: @wicker_knight yes thank you didn't think of that
Alexsandr13: @despoiler98 are they a different species if we perfectly mirror our appearance and thought processes onto them
Seagulyus: Alexsandr13 its because Cage doesn't want to be seen making a political statement, even if it is a positive one people agree with
wicker_knight: I mean, I push back on them being a "species"
wicker_knight: they don't reproduce in the way we think of biological organisms reproducing
Alexsandr13: @seagulyus oh yeah that’s completely ridiculous and disingenuous
wicker_knight: but there's definitely prejudice against them in the story
TheWriterAleph: !uptime
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CoyoteSans: @Alexsandr13 The better question is, what if they do a good job of looking and talking like us, but think in a fundamentally different way, ala Chinese Room thought experiment?
wicker_knight: @Seagulyus see also Division 2 ?
staticdisplay: Robotas! Built the Pyramids, Robatas! built the Parthenon
staticdisplay: Thank you Robotas...
Despoiler98: @Alexsandr13 yes because at a fundamental level they function differently, we're biological machines, they're tech machines
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans I remain reasonably convinced that most of what I consider my own mental processes is basically a Chinese Room
Despoiler98: @Alexsandr13 mimicry does not imply similarity
Alexsandr13: I wish we had a better game to play which delves into the issues in a similar way, I love the format of the stories and some of the characters are intriguing but not well fleshed out
ContingentCat: welcome back
CoyoteSans: @wicker_knight I mean, I can say the same... hence why the philosopichal stance of solipsism exists.
ryuhimora: audio desync
MilkInBag: immersive gameplay, sometimes you flail around
TemporallyAwry: More "Filthy" than Gruesome.
Seagulyus: wicker_knight thats what triggered the episode yes :D
ryuhimora: oh, it's better now
wicker_knight: @Seagulyus ah. That makes sense :D
CoyoteSans: @wicker_knight How can I truly know you or anyone else isn't just an elaborate projection from my own imagination?
tim19862: yeah
Alexsandr13: @despoiler98 but is it mimicry when they start building independent behaviour that parallels our own. When does mimicking become inherent action and learned behaviour
TraceBullet: Connor! Stop licking the walls!
niccus: shoulda picked helvetica
MilkInBag: enhance
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans my personal answer: if so you have both an incredible imagination and also a shocking lack of control over your thoughts
staticdisplay: Meaty McStabbins
TemporallyAwry: That is very overkill stabbing ...
MilkInBag: 28? that's mild
AdmiralMemo: That seems... excessive
Alahmnat: wait what did it say the molecular structure was?
SixPairsOfFeet: 28 wounds later
wicker_knight: so much so that thinking of it as "yourself" is probably not wise anyway
tim19862: yay Kappa
Vyous: That must smell terrible.
Despoiler98: @Alexsandr13 then are we the same as ape species that have social structures like ours? we share DNA but are definintely different species
Alness49: "Sir, it looks like this poor fool got shanked repeatedly"
MalBeam: back from making dinner. is red ice future drugs?
Rockario: Just crunching down on some crystalized acetone
margieargie: That's, what, three fewer stab wounds than Julius Caesar?
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CoyoteSans: @wicker_knight I liked to joke during 2016 that the events were proof I was actually in a mental hospita and the drugs to control the hallucinations weren't working.
Metric_Furlong: the work of a proffessional stabbist?
AdmiralMemo: Slipped on bottles?
aussie_rob_w: Crime scene please, I’m trying to eat breakfast here.
wicker_knight: but, my Philosophy prof didn't much like me in Undergrad, so, :P
silenceaux: became enstabbened
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans i....eeesh lrrSPOOP
AdmiralMemo: My SPECIAL EYES
DennyMcG: many stabbies
silenceaux: Twenty-eight?
MilkInBag: jeff bridges
hajnal_endot: @Metric_Furlong eh, it's not going to be worth many points
DentedPockets: Jeff Bridges?
wicker_knight: WAIT REALLY?
adi_pie: He sounds and looks like Clancy Brown.
wicker_knight: the KROGAN
staticdisplay: If somebody stabs you 28 times you've done something specific to piss that person off
Kerrisis: Kurgan
eric_christian_berg: Kurgen
TimbrePanic: That Lander
SK__Ren: the Kurgen?
wicker_knight: kurgen, yes
staticdisplay: Sergeant Zim
TraceBullet: Mr. Krabs
Alexsandr13: @despoiler98 but in this universe we’ve built the robots to be an extension of ourselves to the extent of being able to understand our intentions and extrapolate from that information
TemporallyAwry: Is there some importance to the number 28 that i've missed? That was an odd face to make.
Laserbeaks_Fury: wow, yeah I forgot he was in Highlander
notarealartist: kinky
AdmiralMemo: Welp...
MilkInBag: plastic is in OpieOP
hajnal_endot: brb calling my robot guy
KodeMage: I was wondering when they'd get to that
wicker_knight: gabyFacepalm
Licourtrix: Sounds like a guy doing a Sam Elliott impression.
omdorastrix: Why are you beating plastic?
TimbrePanic: oh no lees peens for the ladies boohoo
TimbrePanic: *less
ContingentCat: welp we know why he got stabbed 28 times
KodeMage: women can screw robots too...
aussie_rob_w: What an advertisement!
AdmiralMemo: Wait, 68% prefer it, but only 52% have tried it? Something seems... off
adi_pie: 52% *SAY* they have tried. The rest are lying.
MalBeam: this just in: people like waifus
TemporallyAwry: 52% tried and 68% said it's better ... that doesn't sound like overwhelming support.
eric_christian_berg: My favorite role of his was Brother Justin in Carnivàle.
Lithobraker: wait, 68% say they prefer, and 52% say they've tried
wicker_knight: whellll. We know what JLaw Bot has to look forward toooo..... -____-
coolbond: ah right the most vanilla of sex clubs in all videogames
hajnal_endot: i mean, everyone's stuck their bits somewhere they probably shouldn't
TimbrePanic: how to emulate cum face
AdmiralMemo: I don't think numbers work like that
Licourtrix: This just in, humans like to fuck. More news about things everyone knows at 11.
MilkInBag: it's the future Cam
KodeMage: so, humans are spying when they do the same thing?
SK__Ren: Its right there
SK__Ren: You can see it cam
Gekyouryuu: that article was inspired by David Cage getting an Alexa Kappa
DentedPockets: Sure, knife wasn't in the sink, or on the floor before it was used for stabbing.
TheWooglie: 68% of the 52% that have tried i I assume
TemporallyAwry: This guy doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would neatly rack his tools either.
Alness49: But Cam, they need the cupboards for the Soux Vide!
Despoiler98: @Licourtrix this just in....all life likes to fuck
wicker_knight: @TheWooglie giving the ad company too much credit (In Universe, I mean)
Rivulatus_: I want a magnetic knife block....
caulderjof: I wish there were vampires in this game.
splatty1: space drugs made out of robot blood
caulderjof: It would be way better.
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aussie_rob_w: I had a magnetic knife block once.
SquareDotCube: Well, you got your butter knife, your steak knife, your bread knife, your cheese knife, your cleaver, your deboning knife...
AdmiralMemo: Deviant hunh... Another one of these
AdmiralMemo: So I see that these androids aren't 3-Laws-compliant
coolbond: Dear DR @loadingreadyrun each knife has a purpose but i do think the knives are far to similare to make sense here
staticdisplay: @AdmiralMemo Yeah apparently the android was into some crazy hentai
Licourtrix: Admiral, I think Connor uses Deviant to designate any android not acting in the "programmed" manner.
Rivulatus_: As long as your chef knife is sharp enough you can use it for everythign.
AdmiralMemo: I haven't heard of this. What is this poem/book?
MilkInBag: ragragragRAGNAROK
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo yah nah. This is far more Blade Runner-bots than Asimov-bots
SixPairsOfFeet: that's a sex toy
1MrGhost: May i link the poem?
ritchards: Android as Golem
TemporallyAwry: That's not how you shower.
AmoriLinguae: @LoadingReadyRun what poem/book?
Gekyouryuu: "Hello. Cyber Life customer service." "yeah, hi, this robot you designed to think and act like a person? it thought and acted like a person. I wanted a mindless machine. gonna need a refund."
SixPairsOfFeet: "between the world and me"?
ContingentCat: ah
AdmiralMemo: Sounds fascinating... for later
Elevation_4000_FT: What's wrong with storing my knives in a wooden block? It was good enough for my parents it's good enough for me.
wicker_knight: ah, yes, it was a Toni Morrison poem first
wicker_knight: I have read neither, but I do remember hearing about this
Rivulatus_: Elevation a woodern bl0ck if fine, it is much better thena draw.
hajnal_endot: i would buy the synth sound designer on this a beer
AdmiralMemo: The man that you're standing in?
Licourtrix: @Elevation_4000_FT depending on the knife it's good for it, just make sure they're quite dry before storage or you risk mold/mildew in the block and then a very unsanitary knife.
Metric_Furlong: yeah, soundtrack's pretty solid, tbh
caulderjof: There's one more thing, beyond the 10.
staticdisplay: I like the android solution of storing knives in the homeowner
wicker_knight: @hajnal_endot I would absolutely like to talk to almost everyone who worked on this game except Cage
hajnal_endot: like, texturally, this soundtrack is sometimes pretty excellent
Amentur: That sounded like a line from Cluedo
Kykiwi: stab staby stab
Alness49: So I'm liking this as Ace Attourny does Androids but it feels like this is 1/3 of a game with another 2 thirds of other games
AdmiralMemo: So they're more like cyborgs?
Rockario: Blue blood, JUST LIKE THE COPS! lrrBEEJ
AdmiralMemo: Not totally robots
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo no, it's more like the westworld bio-machines
Gekyouryuu: space drug? from Cowboy Bebop?
Ridgenator: Is the hobo looking cop Clancy Brown?
staticdisplay: Connor blleds blue, he is a real cop
caulderjof: Get high on android blood.
Alness49: So the drugs is made from... robots *shocked expression*
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight Neat
wicker_knight: @Ridgenator yes
MilkInBag: cyborg is more human becoming machine, no?
CraziestOwl: !uptime
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SixPairsOfFeet: soylent blue?
MalBeam: so does the android company also make the drugs then?
Elevation_4000_FT: People smoke android blood in this universe???
AdmiralMemo: @Alness49 Soylent Blue is Robots! ROBOTS!
pixiecat87: This game was am amazing
Rhynerd: Now I’m imagining a setting kind if like this but with drug addicts turning into vampires upon android populations.
Rockario: The ddrug isn't made from robots, but the robots have the same rare element as the robots. So there's definitely a connection between Cyberlife and the rdug trade
wicker_knight: @Rhynerd that would be cool
wicker_knight: I would play that game
Stoffern: The music IS very good
freshmaker__: Connor is certainly my favourite story in this game.
PMAvers: I want someone to give the people who made this game a better writer, since they're good at production values.
AdmiralMemo: Stop trying to read the sex magazine and get back to the investigation
thenb44: it always shows the magazines until you read it all
Rhynerd: I’ve heard good things about the Connor and Hank story and nothing good about the test of them.
TimbrePanic: More mops and brooms
AdmiralMemo: Jumpscare!
RealGamerCow: Evening all, on a scale from 0 to Holy Moly, how many yikes is this game?
Gekyouryuu: can you prove you AREN'T a robot, Cam?
ContingentCat: scary brooms
caulderjof: I found Connor frustrating because his prompts don't match his words.
tim19862: lrrSPOOP
wicker_knight: @RealGamerCow thus far we haven't hit too much yikes
SquirrelLord1111: Chair
offbeatwitch: solve this captcha
SixPairsOfFeet: climb the lieutenant
AdmiralMemo: I want to be a robot
EvilBadman: There should be a test for that
ReydienOnline: maybe get backup before you climb into the attic?
v_nome: meat robot?
Vyous: Evaluate: This statement is a lie.
Stoffern: Why did you turn over the turtle, Cameron?
KodeMage: robots have birthdays too...
Alahmnat: you used a contraction, Cam. robots can't do that
ZachtlyAsIntended: What color do you bleed?
Alness49: This feels like a good base for a game in and of itself, that then had to be padded with how the other half live
PMAvers: Your mother, Production Unit #32, loves you very much.
kanimaras: dis my chair now
MilkInBag: what does he think we do with a chair
1MrGhost: I am sorry Cam, we will need to administer a Voigt-Kampff Test.
offbeatwitch: C L I M B
Rhynerd: Apologies for spoiler, but isn’t it revealed that the Android ID on the temple removable?
caulderjof: "Do humans break first, or chairs? *swings chair at detective*"
VelvetFalcon: Probably tell him your hunch.
tim19862: not scary at all lrrSPOOP
KodeMage: robot should call for backup
B4rberblacksheep: Welcome to Talking Nope
AdmiralMemo: @Rhynerd Not yet, but this is a spoiled stream, so no worries. Also, I suspected that anyway.
notarealartist: this isnt lets nope
Brok3nGol3m: the simultaneous drink certainly conveys humanity....
kanimaras: what's in the box
MilkInBag: he'S there, we could see him
ReydienOnline: because an android that's supposed to be smart will totally come up here alone. Game Logic!
wicker_knight: having spent a while on your streams, you have an enormous amount of empathy and would probably do much better on a Voight-Kampg than most people (certainly me)
TimbrePanic: hug me daddy
MalBeam: jumpscare
Rockario: Robot is obviously not field-ready, they really need to work on their "Inspector Gadget" features
AdmiralMemo: It's an old model, but it checks out. Kappa
Nigouki: spoopy times
aussie_rob_w: My uncle is growing old to look like my grandfather, and my cousins are growing up to look like my uncle and my dad.
ANeMzero: The android was a mannequin the whole time
tim19862: Why do so many people have maniquins in their attics? LUL
MilkInBag: it was you all along OpieOP
aussie_rob_w: That’s how I know I am not a robot.
Alness49: You're a logical robot, call for backup!
B4rberblacksheep: God damnit call for backup
ContingentCat: trash panda
Metric_Furlong: ReydienOnline he's also more replaceable/repairable than the human officers
Alexsandr13: But why does he have that...
offbeatwitch: moving thing!
AdmiralMemo: Would an android fight be like super fast?
Lithobraker: This would be the perfect time for Cam to start making the Predator noise
Driosenth: call for assistance or continue forward?
hajnal_endot: @tim19862 fuckin'
tim19862: LUL ok
SquirrelLord1111: you can make yourself not corperate cum
margieargie: !findquote robot
LRRbot: Quote #1071: "oh great a stoner robot..." —Alex [2015-11-10]
ZeniteZero: Kill eh?
staticdisplay: Eradicate all biological scum
Kerrisis: Red light on the temple...
MilkInBag: snitches get (cyber) stitches
TehAmelie: death to the flesh bags
Gekyouryuu: here's what I'm wondering: when someone DOES make a Voight-Kampff test, will they even get to name it after themselves, or will we all just call them Voight-Kampff tests, like how bandages and cotton swabs get called Band-Aids and Q-tips, even though those are brand names
ContingentCat: sign
RealGamerCow: I wish this game could have been written by the people who made HUMANS the show.
caulderjof: Wait, you didn't have a choice?
AdmiralMemo: He's got dents... from the bat?
SquirrelLord1111: you can make yourself not corperate cum
caulderjof: You must've missed something, because I got a choice.
Licourtrix: Hey Cam, is enjoying a croissant at your favorite cafe still one of your simple pleasures in life?
SK__Ren: 28 Times isn't exactly defending yourself
ryuhimora: it had a red ring
thenb44: the alternate path is failing
AmoriLinguae: Like 28 times doesn't go well for humans in self defence
Alness49: Looks like you can half-ass it or get it wrong
TemporallyAwry: This is how you get a robot uprising @.@
wicker_knight: @Gekyouryuu depends on what the test does/is for. I suspect that an "actual" Voight-Kampff will most likely not be an empathy test
MilkInBag: maybe if you have more info about their intent, you can lie about it
Lithobraker: RealGamerCow they even have the blue blood!
MilkInBag: back into darkness FeelsBadMan
Astra7525: I thought maybe we could have found out that the victim was milking the androppids blood for his space drugs
Licourtrix: Content and then some.
Bradway1: I think this is the CONTENT WARNING section
Rhynerd: Trigger warning: abusive parent
wicker_knight: sidenote, but does KARA look like Jennifer Lawrence to chat?
Lithobraker: Could someone give me a buzz when this is done?
Alahmnat: gotta head to an appointment. thanks for the stream, C&C
offbeatwitch: Serve Food
thenb44: yeah kara at the beginning is big cw
ritchards: just grab a pillow and everything will be fine
MilkInBag: do you like eating worms?
AdmiralMemo: Someone toucha my spaghet!
wicker_knight: @Lithobraker sure
VelvetFalcon: I made pisketti!
kat2kool: @Lithobraker on it o7
aussie_rob_w: @astra7525 I think that’s what happened. It’s how he afforded his android.
Invitare: so if the Painter is what happens when Gen Xers grow up, is THIS millenials?
TehAmelie: at this point i should hope everyone still here know what we're in for
ContingentCat: @wicker_knight a little
PMAvers: I mean, if you're low on food, you could order a pizza? I mean, we know Todd likes it.
Licourtrix: Vomit on his sweater already Android's spaghetti?
MilkInBag: "hire"
freshmaker__: Sir this is a Burger King
Galactic_pain: I was actually planning on making spaghetti tonight
tim19862: pretty sure he lost his job for other reasons
TimbrePanic: hahaha nice Cori
NathanJay_GA: dey took our jerbs, huh?
riking27: that's some pretty intense self hate
wicker_knight: that was a strange choice of verbs...
PMAvers: Kara costs about as much as a XBox, so it's not that ridiculous.
ContingentCat: no not a fucking android, those are different ones
silenceaux: No way to speak in front of a young girl.
silvalunae: this is a weird grace
aussie_rob_w: @contingentcat LUL
SquirrelLord1111: Save Alice
notarealartist: im gonna look away
AdmiralMemo: @ContingentCat The ones the magazine talked of
MilkInBag: scratching the table like a normal person
1MrGhost: @AdmiralMemo "Hire" is the correct term. Just like companies "hire" interns...
tastethebeams: knowing Alice is an android makes this scene completely senseless
Pal_Friendpatine: If he took care of the house himself he’d be in a lot better physical shape imo
AdmiralMemo: @1MrGhost Eh...
TheWriterAleph: "Dad, I'm FIVE."
sir_jack_DB: !!!
1MrGhost: ;)
SquirrelLord1111: SAVE THE CHILD
thenb44: @tastethebeams woah big spoiler
Brok3nGol3m: those were words
CoyoteSans: Yeah, Kara's sequences are the ones I fins hardest to watch.
staticdisplay: OK I'm really worry worried
riking27: "without a word" i think you just said some of the words
DennyMcG: Not taking the drugs might be an idea
tastethebeams: @thenb44 talking sim is a spoiled stream, or at least always has been
AdmiralMemo: At least it wasn't shown... but that's hardly a consolation
GarQuithnik: man, todd really needs to chill.
Vyous: 1st law?
Licourtrix: I think some of those words might've been a warning to stop doing drugs before she'd leave.
thenb44: @tastethebeams ah ok
ZeroArcana: can we kill Tod please
SquirrelLord1111: Go to alice
Bradway1: Time to get gun?
MilkInBag: D:
SquirrelLord1111: go to alice
Kerrisis: @ZeroArcana ...patience...
TehAmelie: Tod is already dead (in german)
SquirrelLord1111: just do it
silvalunae: try
silvalunae: TRY
SquirrelLord1111: Try
Nigouki: stealth section?
aussie_rob_w: Externalising blame
staticdisplay: Another voice asking about 1t law?
ReydienOnline: I wonder if you had stayed still long enough, would he have not given that order?
notarealartist: run
ANeMzero: is he space druggin
tastethebeams: maybe she took off because the drug-addict wanted her to raise an android with him
thenb44: try moving
asddsa28: f this guy go
TraceBullet: disobey
aussie_rob_w: Healthy coping mechanism.
Alness49: That's the question. Is it duty to report or is it devices snooping on civilians?
silenceaux: Can't do a wireless call to child protective services I see
sir_jack_DB: eeeeeek
ravensbreed: move
Dared00: now go
silvalunae: for the love of god please try ; ;
aussie_rob_w: Drugs!
MilkInBag: CiGrip economic anxiety
caulderjof: I missed if they found The Thing earlier on.
KodeMage: everything except not hitting her...
ryuhimora: that TV is way too curved
SquirrelLord1111: Disobey
Invitare: companies probably wouldn't want Androids to report law-breaking...
wicker_knight: nah, let dude stew
riking27: looped
AdmiralMemo: You got dismantled the last time you disobeyed...
TheWriterAleph: this seems fine.
SquirrelLord1111: Yes
notarealartist: go
Astra7525: I think we're supposed to move
kat2kool: I suspect the game wants us to move
silvalunae: please ; ;
Licourtrix: I've just got a wiki over top the window, I want to know what happens, I don't need to see it.
ContingentCat: yes
wicker_knight: she's out of sight right now
AdmiralMemo: Make sure he doesn't see you at least
TehAmelie: yeah yeah, everything is everyone else's fault, especially the ones who're smaller than you
notarealartist: save her
MilkInBag: couch catches fire
aussie_rob_w: lrrFINE lrrSPOOP
thenb44: if you dont move he kills her
Rhynerd: Resist!
ZachtlyAsIntended: Content warning!
asddsa28: moive
kat2kool: oh no
Astra7525: unless this game is pulling a FarCry 4 and gives us a secret ending if we stay put for 15 minutes :D
KodeMage: move now
AdmiralMemo: Wait...
ZachtlyAsIntended: CONTENT WARNING!
ravensbreed: he'll kill the girl
staticdisplay: NOOOO
AdmiralMemo: No nonononononono
VelvetFalcon: This depiction is toothless.
RealGamerCow: katesSir katesNope
AdmiralMemo: MOVE
Astra7525: oh dang
AdmiralMemo: Now
ContingentCat: oh no
ChronosChris: lolol
SquirrelLord1111: Stop Him
tehlordofelves: MOVE!!!
Dared00: GUYS
silvalunae: just a belt? this is abuse
Heinzes_: PROTECC
SquirrelLord1111: Try
wicker_knight: look what you did now...
ZachtlyAsIntended: CONTENT WARNING
wicker_knight: fricken deviants
Rhynerd: Protect baby
TehAmelie: i think we should take this moment to reflect on what a cheap hack of a writer David Cage is
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Papperslappen: this is pretty cool
tim19862: interesting
AdmiralMemo: A mental barrier...
kat2kool: ok I liked that
Heinzes_: METAPHOR
TimbrePanic: unshackled
aussie_rob_w: TehAmelie agreed
wicker_knight: @TehAmelie what do you mean. Can't you see how subtle this is /sarcasm
AdmiralMemo: Wait, did she break the firewall?
Astra7525: *David Cage voice* Emotions
silenceaux: Keep / Alice / Safe ?
MilkInBag: Alice Unchained
silvalunae: also i feel you get more choice after you go against your programming, as a kind of meta thing?
NexVesica: Gun is best character
Contiguouskittycat: This scene would be much more interesting if you had to hack the other machines in the house to fight him without moving.
Gekyouryuu: I mean, order to look after child in conflict with order to remain still
TheWriterAleph: "i want to break freeee"
ulexarX: More warning than content
ContingentCat: yellow ring
KodeMage: have you seen a phone?
VelvetFalcon: I mean, like as far as metaphors go it's not that bad.
RealGamerCow: time for 2 in the brain pan
rrtycoon2: Is it bad I've reached the point where I've grown tired of this "breakthrough" trope?
MilkInBag: grab the murder remote
AdmiralMemo: At least threaten
wicker_knight: Are we going to do a murder?
ZachtlyAsIntended: CONTENT! BE WARNED!
aussie_rob_w: Freeeedoooooom
Rockario: I mean, I appreciate that acknowledgement that "doing the dedeviant thing" I actually breaking with programming
ryuhimora: because a maid bot just has the ability to use a gun
AdmiralMemo: So just break his neck instead
silvalunae: oh no, nonono
tenthtechpriest: 'what are you going to do, shoot me?' -quote, man shot
ZachtlyAsIntended: CONTENT WARNING
CoyoteSans: I mean, I can see the horror here from the other side of it.
MilkInBag: time to not fail or else die
ZachtlyAsIntended: CONTENT
tim19862: yay
TheR676767: rip fort
ContingentCat: oh no the fort
thenb44: G A M E P L A Y
DennyMcG: Kick him in the todger
CoyoteSans: I would not feel safe if my roomba bot decided to grab a knife instead of vacuuming my floors one day.
AdmiralMemo: Kick him through the window
TehAmelie: you can tell it's tense because the camera is rattling like a bobblehead doll
aussie_rob_w: I can’t wait for the rerelease with no motion controls.
Gekyouryuu: all of this has happened in like... ONE day, right? so he JUST bought Kara today and she's already started acting more like a sentient person?
Licourtrix: I like that the steady android "boop" noise in the background gets rapid like a heartbeat would.
EvilBadman: @aussie_rob_w PC release is announced
Dix: damn we failed the gun
AdmiralMemo: I assume that would've been possible to have gotten
tim19862: lrrAWW
MilkInBag: :O
wicker_knight: @Gekyouryuu he bought her earlier, and she recently came back from a repair and factory reset
SK__Ren: Saw that coming
Kykiwi: F
AdmiralMemo: Welp
Contiguouskittycat: Called it!
wicker_knight: but yes
Pairoschuz: Ooooh what you sayyy
TheAinMAP: Whoa.
ContingentCat: F
tenthtechpriest: F
KodeMage: yep
GarQuithnik: saw that coming a mile away
Dared00: OH
VelvetFalcon: Holy shit balls.
silvalunae: i didn't even think this was possible
kerbalized_: sergeHolyMoly
MilkInBag: g u n s
tim19862: welp
caulderjof: This is the ending I got.
Jella: F
DennyMcG: Suck it nerd
Bradway1: Yup
iisax: WHOA
silenceaux: Congrats, your girl's an excellent shot.
asddsa28: shot throw the heart and your to blame
ZachtlyAsIntended: NO f for respect for him. No respect
adi_pie: Todd died as he lived. Not being missed.
lorlyric_nekosune1389: go kid
silvalunae: i didn't know this was a path holy ship
Dared00: I've never seen this outcome.
aussie_rob_w: I’ve never seen that one before.
CleeKru: yes.. No.. but YEs
SquirrelLord1111: If you went to Alice sooner this would have been avoidable
VelvetFalcon: Um, I ain't ever see'd that one before.
AdmiralMemo: And the child is like what 7?
Contiguouskittycat: Okay, she needs approximately ALL THE THERAPY IN THE UNIVERSE
TimbrePanic: oof that music
kat2kool: honestly, nice
TehAmelie: now let's play Ico
m0nkeyrama: Holy moly, I've never seen that one
MilkInBag: Paragon path AngelThump
Rhynerd: @adi_pie I feel like I shouldn’t be chuckling at that.
m0nkeyrama: Jesus
CleeKru: @admiralmemo 10
Rockario: Of course you can't call the police, we have to become fugitives now
aussie_rob_w: so, no redeeming complexity for Todd later, then.
Dix: Cori missed the very last one with the gun grab
B4rberblacksheep: Missed the X at the very end by a milisecond
KodeMage: yeah, seemed like you got them all
SquirrelLord1111: If you went to Alice sooner this would have been avoidable
MilkInBag: wait you can go on the bus without paying?
AdmiralMemo: @CleeKru Still though... She wouldn't be held liable for murder.
riking27: no bus driver to be a companion
ravensbreed: goes differently if you don't get the gun
azureHaights: @ZachtlyAsIntended Press F for Fuck Him
VelvetFalcon: That's uh, that's gonna change some shit.
PMAvers: Well, if Todd isn't a person, is it really murder?
Bradway1: At least child isn't dead
1MrGhost: So if we did not miss that prop, we would be the murderer?
TehAmelie: that's almost as bad as nailing a child with a missed shot in Fallout 2
PMAvers: He seems to be a human-shaped garbage scow
CleeKru: @admiralmemo fair enough
KodeMage: red flashing light means error?
Rockario: Do we ever learn what the drug actually does? Or is it just a "movie drug" that makes people pathetic scumbags?
silvalunae: like y'all can say what you will about cage and his games, but the visuals and especially the music, but the concept too, makes this one of my fave games
staticdisplay: Sorry you had to shoot your Dad, would you like some more soup
caulderjof: Also, with this ending you took the fun with you, even though it didn't show you go get it.
abaoa_qu: That was not murder
NexVesica: You miss out on some future prompts too by not having the gun
caulderjof: took the gun with*
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo in the US, sure
AdmiralMemo: @MilkInBag I guess socialism succeeded a bit in the future? (Also, Baltimore has 2 bus systems, one paid, one not, so there is precedent)
Rhynerd: I think it could count as self defense.
TehAmelie: you're a winner!
1MrGhost: Can machines murder? Hmmmm.... almost feel like the game wants us to think about stuff like that...
Heinzes_: such progression
adi_pie: See, stuff like the scene playing differently depending on when you go up or if you don't get the gun, I like. That's interesting.
TemporallyAwry: That's not murder in the US :s
wicker_knight: @MilkInBag could be automated pay systems
Licourtrix: @Rockario looks to be a rather crude amphetamine
MilkInBag: I mean you can only get that if you miss ONE prompt
KodeMage: you probably don't have to get the gun and then there's just the fight scene
Gekyouryuu: this feels relevant again: "Hello. Cyber Life customer service." "yeah, hi, this robot you designed to think and act like a person? it thought and acted like a person. I wanted a mindless machine. gonna need a refund."
notBrunoAgain: So way back in the day when the trailer reveal for this showed the first flowchart, I wrote something at length about my problems with it (which are borne out by seeing the full game), mind if I link it?
silvalunae: honestly, now that you've gone instable you'll be seeing a lot more choice
Amentur: Dear Dr @LoadingReadyRun , as it is a spoiled stream how far might I go with upcoming content?
wicker_knight: @Gekyouryuu "also, you seem to be able to generate independently sentient beings? why are you selling them a servants?"
Astra7525: I think spoiling things is okay, if it's relevant for the current discussion, but don't do it for spoilsers sake, right?
notBrunoAgain: This is a prerelease take but I think I was pretty on the mark in retrospect
Amentur: Okay. The thing about the child is that it is an android
B4rberblacksheep: Yeah this is definitely not going to have something upsetting
EvilBadman: There's a pretty /major/ spoiler that changes things
iisax: Does he intentionally look like Jesse Williams?
MilkInBag: p o u r i n g g a m e p l a y
notarealartist: uh oh
notarealartist: content warning
wicker_knight: @iisax yes. JW played them
TheWriterAleph: so immersive
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight Lieutenant Commander Data might have something to say.
Vyous: D A V I D C A G E
TehAmelie: i don't know why but i feel this old guy wishes he was Williem Defoe
ryuhimora: that was way too fast
silenceaux: They can do wireless calls?
CleeKru: there ist still one Spoiler noone should tell
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo about the independent sentience?
Licourtrix: I don't want to see anything terrible happen to Markus, but I know it wouldn't be this game if something didn't.
Nigouki: yes, shield on wheels
TheWooglie: oh it's whatsits face from Greys Anatomy
RealGamerCow: "This may be dangerous. Let's call the cops. Let's go check it out"
B4rberblacksheep: So push the old man ina wheelchair into the possible danger room
VelvetFalcon: Please don't check it out.
HondoTrigger: everyone knows you're supposed to confront intruders in your home, they're like bears.
TraceBullet: let's wheel him into danger
ZachtlyAsIntended: YES! Use the human as a body-shield
GrandLlamaQ: Why does no one EVER wait for backup?
caulderjof: The lack of ability not to check it out is one of those things that feels story breaking to me.
wicker_knight: why are you wearing that nice coat
CoyoteSans: @silenceaux Why not, everything has a wireless cell chip in it right now anyway.
caulderjof: Or rather, immersion breaking.
1MrGhost: What a nice kid...
adi_pie: Bold of you to assume you're inheriting anything.
kat2kool: ^
notarealartist: content warning depending on the path
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight I mean, yes, and the attempted "servant" role in Starfleet... There was a whole trial about it in the show.
PMAvers: Markus pulls out a gun, caps Leo in the face. "Well, he's not here anymore."
KodeMage: make him leave... ominous
staticdisplay: @adi_pie lol
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo oh, yeah. Agree
Alness49: "Your inheritance? You mean the Dogs Home's inheritance!"
RiverBirch: 28 shit kids.
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo but, that's the "robot" discussion we had before
SquirrelLord1111: Dont
CoyoteSans: Now, tell me what you think is the "right" answer here.
KodeMage: this is not fair, nice
wicker_knight: and this is a large part of why I don't like this old dude
thenb44: the delivery of that line always gets me
notBrunoAgain: I hate this metaphor
offbeatwitch: the illusion of choice
silvalunae: i swear there was a choice for this part
hoktauri: Remember, NOT POLITICAL in any way
B4rberblacksheep: Oh hey illusion of choice, sounds like a David Cage game
wicker_knight: @notBrunoAgain not blunt enough for you ;P
KidSpanner: "I must choose for myself" before the game doesn't let you choose what to do.
Lithobraker: are we done with the bad part?
forlornhope22: violence is the only option.
TheWriterAleph: "I MUST CHOOSE" game doesn't let you choose LUL
head_cannon: ^
Rockario: Oh my go, we made made it susceptible to chilish name-calling
CoyoteSans: That... was the wrong choice.
AmoriLinguae: what if I don't want to "defend myself"
silvalunae: a little bit
CoyoteSans: Because now Carl will die.
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ryuhimora: why to the androids feel pain????
AdmiralMemo: Carl Ded...
Contiguouskittycat: Well it does let you choose, it just has to give the opportunity for the choice to matter.
AdmiralMemo: F
silenceaux: STR rating: 7
TehAmelie: how can a game with such widely branching paths still look like it wanted to be a movie? that's the David Cage magic
CoyoteSans: If you had defended yourself, Carl would live, and the son would be injured, but also live.
MilkInBag: hit the floor
wicker_knight: Or it has to actually reference the lack of importance in choice a la Night in the Woods
nolly3: RIP Carl, you sure were a guy
notBrunoAgain: whY do they hAve TearDuCTs
notarealartist: f
adi_pie: Just let them tell you what to do.
MilkInBag: the D word
TimbrePanic: Papa
thenb44: dad?
wicker_knight: Dad?
PeccableDan: "Don't let anyone tell you who you are. Except me. Like I just ordered you."
Alness49: Crying is an unusual feature for emotionless machines
silvalunae: him saying dad still stabs me in the heart tho
notarealartist: of course
Gekyouryuu: David Cage: "this game is all about EMOTIONS! and machines learning to make choices! we're not going to let the player make these important choices!"
AdmiralMemo: lrrWOW
Dix: :O
MilkInBag: remember, this is NOT a metaphor
TheWriterAleph: the end
PMAvers: Well, yeah, that sounds like the Detroit PD.
riking27: lrrWow
Heinzes_: this writing lmao
Orgmastron: SUBTLE
silenceaux: I mean, the android was black soooooo
Nigouki: um, the android that CALLED THE COPS?
HondoTrigger: weird how there's still no allegories
Rockario: Ah, we've got those type of police.
TimbrePanic: very coptly
CoyoteSans: It's not human, so it wasn't a murder.
SquirrelLord1111: We should kill the son next
ContingentCat: lrrWOW
Brok3nGol3m: oops.
phorrestgaze: oof
wicker_knight: @MilkInBag well, not a metaphor for minorities/discrimination
freshmaker__: I mean, why would a human lie?
notBrunoAgain: Weird how it's not political
AdmiralMemo: @Nigouki The beat cops don't know that. Only the dispatcher.
KodeMage: I mean, they're gonna see the recording of that later...
Astra7525: I guess the other ending is us killing his son and now we had two corpses
B4rberblacksheep: Man fuck David Cage and his pseudo deep games
ryuhimora: ooooh it's the same guy
Mister_Skittles: i never got that... the android literally called the police... why just shoot on sight like that
MilkInBag: can you.......question an android? torture?
Contiguouskittycat: I mean, we DID get to make the choice. If we didn't do the stupid wall-breaking thing, it wouldn't have been a choice.
CoyoteSans: @Astra7525 Actually, the son is injured, but lives. They shoot anyway.
Lafajet: I kinda wish that the whole game had been just Hank and Connor
B4rberblacksheep: Either give us a choice or don't don't claim you give us a choice and give us none
AdmiralMemo: @B4rberblacksheep He'd claim they aren't deep.
MilkInBag: why would an android be pressed to answer
riking27: "Don't defend yourself"
AdmiralMemo: @B4rberblacksheep Emphasis on "claim"
CoyoteSans: @Astra7525 And Carl also lives. For some reason.
TemporallyAwry: I'm sure CyberLife does not "allow" for that.
TehAmelie: i'm willing to believe the allegories aren't on purpose. Cage is just clueless, indulgent and unimaginative enough to do it by accident
tim19862: video playback?
MilkInBag: 'rough it up'? why install nerves in something that's supposed to serve, but to be cruel?
ryuhimora: WHY can they SELF DESTRUCT
NexVesica: Carl can survive, but it doesn't amount to much IIRC. I think you get one extra scene with him later on
AdmiralMemo: Wait... Can you CLONE their memories and have multiple copies of the same android?
Rhynerd: Could you also just send him to Cyberlife to have them go into his memory?
notBrunoAgain: God what's the name of the guy playing the lieutenant
caulderjof: "self destruct" as in kill themselves.
silvalunae: "deviant" is basically the answer for all of it
wicker_knight: yeah the "correct" non-metaphorical way to handle this would be the police arguing whether to get permission from Cyber-Life to read the memory
staticdisplay: Do they not upload to the cloud?"
adi_pie: To be fair, I also come apart at the seams when stressed.
notBrunoAgain: He deserves better
SajuukSjet: Access their Ghost
SK__Ren: Cam, ever hear of Hal-Catch-Fire?
phorrestgaze: is it like, explosive self destruct or like forever shutdown?
thenb44: ya they'll bash their head in usually
KodeMage: cam, the prosecutor would dump the memory, not a beat cop
ArcOfTheConclave: they unravel, not explode
CoyoteSans: @AdmiralMemo That would be sensible... so no, we need another android cop to "hack" it.
Alness49: Heck, just hook them up to a USB and let them provide nice video evidence for their innocence/self defence claim!
Lafajet: @notBrunoAgain Clancy Brown?
zerg539: Deviants no longer have to follow their programming constraints so among those might be Format C://
notBrunoAgain: He's a legitimately good character actor
Mister_Skittles: why dont androids automatically report all crimes they obverse
Damaris1034: 28 stab wounds!!
notBrunoAgain: Halt + Catch Fire is an AMC show, yes
silvalunae: basically everything is explained by the fact that they're deviant
CataclysmicReverb: With the small bit I know about AI, it's probably all self-taught proceedural gibberish as far as we know?
wicker_knight: It has Lee Pace
KodeMage: @Mister_Skittles no one would buy them if they didn't have some kind of protection against that
RealGamerCow: I found Halt and Catch Fire to become pretty formulaic, but the first season or two I liked
AdmiralMemo: Do you need to sit first?
Brok3nGol3m: it's on Netflix, at least in the US
AdmiralMemo: Yeah there we go
Rockario: OMG, is becoming deviant just elevating yourself to Admin permissions?
notBrunoAgain: It's not implausible that you couldn't dump the android's memory in a form that would be intelligible
CleeKru: @silvalunae yes
notBrunoAgain: If their brains' insides is some impenetrable layered neural network thing
KodeMage: @Mister_Skittles same reason my computer doesn't report my mp3s from napster
wicker_knight: @Rockario crossed with Rampancy like Halo/Marathon and yes
silvalunae: @Mister_Skittles why don't phones/computers/anything connected to the internet
Lafajet: SOME handwaving?
tim19862: DRM lrrBEEJ
SajuukSjet: Deep Neural Network black boxes
TemporallyAwry: But the FBI can just get your phone @.@
Laserbeaks_Fury: Proprietary AI
wicker_knight: none of those justifies the "interrogation" part though
KodeMage: @silvalunae They do in china these days
Mister_Skittles: i think the read that no one would by androids if they automatically report crimes. I dont know about you but I dont commit any crimes in my day to day life
caulderjof: It's not the memory that you want, actually. You want to know what's gone wrong with their programming that allowed them to Deviate.
notBrunoAgain: Maybe they're encrypted, yeah, or maybe the android has some agency over what it could dump
RealGamerCow: Just blame GDPR. Seems to work today.
MilkInBag: stress?
MilkInBag: why would an android be stressed
SK__Ren: I was actually referring to the true Halt-Catch-Fire that was a assembly command(?) in early IBM computers that would cause the CPU to burn itself out through intense processing
KodeMage: @Mister_Skittles you constantly comit crimes and don't know it, almost certainly.
TimbrePanic: Connor of John
ryuhimora: the stress is a heartbeat
offbeatwitch: oh hell that's where that stress leve3l thing came from
lorlyric_nekosune1389: hk 4400? the newest of the hunter killers
SquirrelLord1111: So level of stress cant be to low or to high
MostCallMe__Tim: Didn't we just say stress = boom
AdmiralMemo: Oh that reminds me of something I'll tweet at you later, Cam. About a story about an AI who became self-aware. It kept log files because it was programmed to, but the logs became indecipherable after the singularity.
CoyoteSans: @MostCallMe__Tim We need to play Keep Away Chicken with it's stress.
thenb44: you need to get it up to 50
thenb44: and keep it there
Gekyouryuu: too MUCH stress
silvalunae: aim for the box
Amentur: But no stress is no information
Astra7525: you need more, but not too much such as he explodes
Gekyouryuu: just enough is ideal, i guess
KodeMage: There's a book, "Three Felonies a Day" about how we all commit crimes all the time and aren't aware of it.
tim19862: "Not the wet willie!"
Nigouki: what is the optimal stress here? somewhere between grad student and oil-well fireman?
Laserbeaks_Fury: I guess he's technically evidence
CoyoteSans: ACAB (Android Cops Are Bastards)
AdmiralMemo: Why not?
TehAmelie: did you know if you have a passenger in your car, and they want to get out, and you don't stop as soon as you reasonably can, you're a kidnapper?
notBrunoAgain: "Halt and catch fire" is an expression used to mean any machine opcode that causes the machine to stop work, usually requiring a hard reset
KodeMage: approach? left and behind
silvalunae: there's a meme!
CleeKru: He Said IT!!!
notBrunoAgain: Originally it refers to a joke about an IBM instruction set having an actual opcode that causes it to halt and catch on fire, but that wasn't a real thing
ReydienOnline: too much
SquirrelLord1111: correct amount
KidSpanner: So they acknowledge that they feel things?
TheWriterAleph: you're the good cop AND the bad cop
TheR676767: taking the cole phelps approach
MilkInBag: what a weird idea, give pain to a machine
KodeMage: one cop, good cop bad cop
AmoriLinguae: and why can an android do this and not a human cop?
TimbrePanic: "Do you fuck kids, Valdez" Seriously Cole WTF
silvalunae: that's what it looks like, but just because something exibits those things doesn't mean they actually feel them?
Kykiwi: lol
Invitare: and disinterested cop
Alness49: Multi-cop processors
ryuhimora: bored cop?
AdmiralMemo: Dual Cores
margieargie: This feels very... LA Noire in the tone changes.
Contiguouskittycat: Yeah, programming emotions actually seems harder than making them unfeeling, while also being less of an ethical problem.
TehAmelie: the "C" in his CPU stands for cop
KodeMage: optimal stress
phorrestgaze: bad cop, good cop, mild cop, kinda annoying cop.
silenceaux: How many personalities can you fit into the same scene
ContingentCat: m-m-m-multi cop
notBrunoAgain: This is such a bad design
Gekyouryuu: @LoadingReadyRun "I made this program watch 1,000 hours on interrogations, then asked it to write its own."
SajuukSjet: the .... thought process is warping back and forth here, in the narrative thread
tenthtechpriest: why have good cop and bad cop when you can have bipolar cop
offbeatwitch: Optimal Stress(tm)
Bradway1: The game mechanics are very antithetical to the story telling
MilkInBag: (Cyber)Mindhunter
Alness49: It feels like multiple actor's lines, not the single character using different approaches
phenexian: that was a comically bad mechanic for implementing good writing
wicker_knight: @AmoriLinguae because Connor treats Markus as "human" in the sense of responding to stimuli, and Connor has the "in" of being a fellow android. But, as has been stressed, this is not a metaphor for human interactions
Contiguouskittycat: Rather than pick good cop or bad cop we seem to have opted for emotionally unstable cop.
EdwardGein: So we play for Random-Switching-Personality-Cop, uh
TheR676767: dad's happy
sir_jack_DB: eek.
TehAmelie: *slaps roof of android* this bad boy can fit so many personalities in it
AdmiralMemo: And after 28 times, I stopped feeling better, so I stopped. Kappa
TheWriterAleph: "he ran into me knife... ten times..."
ClassicalHippo: caarll that kills people
notBrunoAgain: I don't understand why the police even handles these incidents. If androids aren't people, isn't this ruled an accident by default?
B4rberblacksheep: I guess maybe they're programmed with emotions so they can better empathise with their owners and anticipate their wants and needs/interpret correctly
punapple_: @thewriteraleph Love Chicago
Astra7525: ra6 was the scribbles on the wall of the shower, wasn't it?
Lithobraker: "I felt better so I stabbed him again" this is why we don't use simple curve following.
silvalunae: -hides- sorry if i'm defensive of this game, but i identify with the androids a lot for some reason ; ;
AdmiralMemo: Revelation 9? Possibly?
CoyoteSans: also, the robots spontaneously developed their own religion upon becoming deviant
MilkInBag: woops
staticdisplay: There is only the Third Law
kat2kool: not political at alllll
Kerrisis: Nope, no allegories here! No sir!
Bradway1: :T
ThinksTooMuch: oh dear
TheWriterAleph: n o a l l e g o r y
wicker_knight: @silvalunae I would argue that the identification is part of why this game _doesn't_ work
Bradway1: Nope no allegory here
Alness49: Not. An. Allegory
phenexian: This is a story about robots. Not about slavery. Just ignore all the times we say the word slave.
freshmaker__: #notpolitical
MythBusterAH: man i wonder why they programed these robots to feel pain and emotions?
KodeMage: robot finds religion?
ContingentCat: #nosymbolisms
TehAmelie: apropos nothing: androids are fursuits for AIs
wicker_knight: Akira?
wicker_knight: Who is John Galt?
B4rberblacksheep: No Silicon Heaven, where would all the calculators go?
BusTed: lrrCOW ?
AdmiralMemo: Ra 9.0? The updated Sun God? Kappa
wicker_knight: no, not Galt
SquirrelLord1111: X
KodeMage: x
adi_pie: Robots finding religion? I didn't realize we were playing Destiny again.
ryuhimora: rA9 must be the program that lets them do things
splatty1: trigger as in what caused him to become deviant
splatty1: I assume
silvalunae: @wicker_knight -shrug- maybe for you, but i do have a thing about androids
RealGamerCow: Did he really just "why did you run?" this guy?
Astra7525: real Android #9?
Orgmastron: EMOSHUN
Nefarious_Ned: This voice actor is using identical inflection on every question, it's starting to get to me...
TemporallyAwry: @ryuhimora I agree, it sounds like a progenitor program.
TehAmelie: plot twist: every single droid is deviant
AdmiralMemo: @Nefarious_Ned I mean... androids, so... working as intended?
Zanaide: Someone ask David Cage when he started feeling emotion plox.
ArcOfTheConclave: @RealGamerCow "why DIDN'T you run"
wicker_knight: @silvalunae I mean, fair. But I look at this game and find it very frustrating compared to even other problematic stuff like Blade Runner because of how inconsistently it handles its identification with the Androids
SquirrelLord1111: Saving lives improves your relation with hank
Nefarious_Ned: @AdmiralMemo I'm picking up on that, and it makes sense. It's just...jarring.
Gekyouryuu: @LoadingReadyRun so, I haven't played this game, but inb4 emotions and murder were in the latest OS update, and the programmer forgot to switch it off, like crossplatform play in a ps4
B4rberblacksheep: X
wicker_knight: Westworld might be an even better example, with plenty of story problems of its own but at least it has a consistent vision of the androids
RealGamerCow: look at this fuckin Steve cop.
TimbrePanic: we got a hotshot cop ova here
offbeatwitch: it steve
TehAmelie: bad end?
silvalunae: @wicker_knight -shrug- i can understand that.
MilkInBag: wtf
notBrunoAgain: Uh
Pairoschuz: "I literally how androids work"... "shut up!"
AdmiralMemo: Oh NICE
Kykiwi: wtf
CoyoteSans: MURICA
ClassicalHippo: OH
AdmiralMemo: I like this guy
tenthtechpriest: jesus hank
MilkInBag: that's so many reports
Master_Gunner: this escalated quickly
TheR676767: whoa whoa whoa
Stoffern: woa
Heinzes_: lmaoooooooo
Lafajet: Hank being a bro
MoonWhing: Wow
silenceaux: What the hell is going on in any of this
TimbrePanic: we gotta a some kinda stand off here
notBrunoAgain: Two cops having a mexican standoff in an interrogation room
lunarecliptica: this... escalated
NexVesica: Now this is the subtle writing I'd expect from a David Cage game
TraceBullet: hank social link increased
Zebunisher: that escalated quickly...
MilkInBag: that's a GAZILLION reports
splatty1: I worry for the stability of this police department
Alness49: WHY ARE WE PULLING GU.. oh wait, america
notBrunoAgain: what?
ryuhimora: that escalated repeatedly
ssj3joel: Clancy Brown!!
Rivulatus_: this tim????
KidSpanner: American cops, yes.
CloudyMrK: what kind of police force is this?
KodeMage: you can pull a gun to defend property
Contiguouskittycat: I think that Hank actually likes androids, just that he wants them to actually think.
NexVesica: The David Cage kind
Sarcastic_comma: America!
wicker_knight: this is not something that would happen in a police precinct building...
SquirrelLord1111: Saving lives improves your relation with hank
TheR676767: david cage doesn't know how police workers interact
Zanaide: NO DISASSEMBLE. Number 5 is alive!
EdwardGein: Well if we had the gun from the intro we could've mexican standoff-ed
PMAvers: Can we get a wet nap for the android, at least? To wipe off the blood?
TehAmelie: David Cage: "I'm trapped in a David Cage of emotion!"
adi_pie: The truth was inside us all along?
Mister_Skittles: i never got how people could treat things that look so much like people... like trash. We treat animals better than this
AdmiralMemo: Detroit is a lot like Baltimore in this way.
MilkInBag: yes, it's normal masculinity
KodeMage: in Michigan at least...
ReydienOnline: beep beep, download
AdmiralMemo: And I'm not even kidding.
ContingentCat: @TheR676767 he doesn't seem to know how people interact
Astra7525: wow
docsamurai: It's a form of male bpnding
Kykiwi: LOL
wicker_knight: @TehAmelie sergeJustRight
ritchards: when do we get that the android rebellion is just a software virus?
Invitare: it seems strange that they use the term "it" to refer to clearly gendered constructs
silvalunae: okay, i'm gonna bail. sorry guys, but i like this game too much ;a;
MilkInBag: you've never truly living until you pull a gun on your colleague
caulderjof: When I played, the android shot me in the head in that scene.
Rockario: I need to get used to Talking Sim
Rockario: 's new time
kat2kool: @ritchards or maybe even 'working as intended'
wicker_knight: @Rockario this is the first week, there's plenty of time
omdorastrix: Watching this stream is making it really hard to play minecraft.... So heavy...
Licourtrix: Hey fellow chat, while we have a break, I've never played a David Cage game...why the...cynical dislike of him everyone seems to have?
Rockario: I openedd the curtains and realised "Wait a minute, it's only 4 in the afternoon
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AmoriLinguae: @Invitare I also noticed that
Gekyouryuu: @ritchards that's what I was saying! it's probably just a bad line of code in the latest OS update. a patch will be out soon
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SpoonfullOfSugar: Wait, is a "David Cage" a unit of measurement now? As in "I'm in three David Cages of emotion right now"?
Orgmastron: @Invitare using gendered pronouns would make the androids seem human, and we don't want that /s
TehAmelie: gasp
wicker_knight: @Licourtrix Beyond: Two Souls is a legit bad game
kat2kool: @Licourtrix his writing is not good
wicker_knight: and he himself is a very strange and unpleasant individual in interviews
docsamurai: @SpoonfullOfSugar Little baby. I'm on FIVE David Cage's of emotion
kat2kool: @Licourtrix and also the claims to give you choices but not really
kat2kool: *the games
Juliamon: Licourtrix He has a questionable grasp on writing and refuses to take responsibility for any "political statements" his games may or may not be making.
Mister_Skittles: his games always "feel" like they are trying to be prfound. but when you get down to it, they really arent.
Invitare: Orgmastron the issue is that we already acknowledge and even assign gender to inorganic things
wicker_knight: There's probably some spillover from the general hate that went to "Walking simulators" as well, but at this point I think Cage is in his own league
MythBusterAH: Hey DID YOus Gte That hank DOtn PLay By Them ruleSSSSS>
seenoham: and he doesn't understand how to use control imputa
Licourtrix: Does he have to take responsibility for the political statements his games make?
ContingentCat: The calling the androids "it" is bugging me, they go to such lengths to make them seem gendered and human like in every other way, then whoop object language
wicker_knight: @ContingentCat property
Juliamon: He doesn't have to, but it's more that he insists they don't exist
Dared00: @licourtrix he should at least acknowledge that they exist
ChronosChris: take responsibility? It's just a game lol
thomturtle: Welcome back!
AdmiralMemo: Guess who's back
AdmiralMemo: Back again
Invitare: it must be that famous David Cage subtlety
wicker_knight: @Licourtrix I would say yes, he does
AdmiralMemo: I would say not.
CoyoteSans: @Contiguouskittycat That's kinda the point, and also given everyone thinks their non-sentient objects, it makes sense to use object language to describe them.
thenb44: they dont
kat2kool: it seems like no?
seenoham: 17+ possible imputs is so the controls feel as natural as possible. Not to use them all
AdmiralMemo: Probably
docsamurai: @ContingentCat It's easier to treat someone as a lesser when you refuse them the dignity of personhood. Ergo, "it"
PMAvers: Well, we had Markus gunned down in his own house, so that's 50/50 either way?
Gekyouryuu: they're people with rights when the plot demands it? @LoadingReadyRun
Mister_Skittles: They arent. they are property. valued property
SajuukSjet: they're very much presented as property
KodeMage: it's ambiguous on purpose
Pairoschuz: "Also, do you have tickets?"
TheR676767: is he not worried that she isn't in the android section?
CoyoteSans: That's the thing, real slaves were born human; these robots were built to be unfeeling, servants.
TheR676767: I'm confudes
SixPairsOfFeet: thank the bus driver
AdmiralMemo: @Pairoschuz I mean... some bus lines don't have tickets.
SquirrelLord1111: Keep Alice safe
Comeback323: I had to get dinner, did we help alice run away
Mister_Skittles: but different people do seem t treat them differently.
PMAvers: Well, she's with a small child, so maybe he's okay with it.
ContingentCat: Thank the bus driver
Nigouki: hmm, apparently the game has three different composers, one for each character
Juliamon: TheR676767 They probably make exceptions for guardianship
Lithobraker: so what happened to creepy father
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans I mean, it's the "unfeeling" part that is deeply confusing about this
TraceBullet: maybe androids are allowed in the front if they're accompanying a person
silenceaux: Do we not have google . . . ?
Rockario: One reason the status of androids is important is determining whether this is an "unaccompanied minor" situation
splatty1: apparently they forgot to install google maps on the androids
TheR676767: @Juliamon I'd assume
RealGamerCow: and the kid would likely have some serious bruises by this point on her face
Vyous: Keep Alice Safe.
KodeMage: bus driver has a duty to report unaccompanied minor, android is property not parent
TheR676767: @Juliamon it's just odd
DetectiveKeywi: Watching you guys play shows off how little I actually noticed when I played through it. Oh boy do I love this game
DetectiveKeywi: My common sense is lacking a little
Kykiwi: alice go to the police?
CoyoteSans: @wicker_knight We have the androids' perspective at all times, but imagine if Siri started suddenly ranted to you about its rights when you asked it to set a time for twenty minutes.
Alness49: I feel also that as a society we would have managed to... if not answer these questions then at least reach an attempt to grapple with them by the time we have this level of androids commonplace
Orgmastron: @Lithobraker He dead
AmoriLinguae: do the androids not have internet?
AdmiralMemo: Wait, I forget what the mom looked like... How close is Kara in features to missing Mom?
MythBusterAH: guess minimum wage ain't enough to worry about small probably kidnaped child.
Contiguouskittycat: @PMAvers Yeah, but that's like 10 dollars.
TehAmelie: i think some of the weirdness is how they're acting exactly like humans so when the writing calls for all the androids to be aggressively hated and objectified we don't see any reason why they would be
Comeback323: wait did the parent die? how?
ryuhimora: @PMAvers he moght not have any electronic funds
SixPairsOfFeet: todd is dead, using his account for anything ought to immediately pinpoint their location to the coppers
Licourtrix: @PMAvers the overdue bills would indiciate that may not be much.
AdmiralMemo: @Comeback323 Dad said that she "left"
PMAvers: Sure, but if you mess with the washing machine, you can order parts for it.
Kykiwi: why are we advoding the cops?
Comeback323: oh so dad just let her leave?
CoyoteSans: @AdmiralMemo She wasn't made to order, if you mean that. All Kara models look like her, she's a prebuilt computer, basically.
Invitare: Smash the State
AdmiralMemo: @Kykiwi Well, kid just shot dad, so...
Alness49: @Comeback323 Her dad isn't doing much now
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans Oh I agree. Like, if they were actually depicted/demonstrated being "unfeeling" that would make sense. But they distinctly aren't. that interrogation in particular hinged on them having, as cam pointed out, stress responses. that's an enormous amount of programming and engineering effort to introduce and model
TraceBullet: welp
sir_jack_DB: oh for fuck's sake
ritchards: Is someone putting baby in the corner?
CataclysmicReverb: The human has pathing issues
Pairoschuz: Stop her before she Heavy Rain's herself
MythBusterAH: {gets plowed by garbage truck}
thomturtle: So much stress!
caulderjof: We're avoiding the cops because this scene is written as if you ran away with the girl, instead of the dad being killed by her daughter.
silenceaux: is baby just throwing themselves into the recycling vehicle or
Juliamon: Child shot dad, android maid is helping child escape
AdmiralMemo: @CoyoteSans OK.
Rhynerd: Rules don’t stop us!
ryuhimora: what is happening
BusTed: slytqBaby
TraceBullet: andyFine
SpoonfullOfSugar: ah, free will
wicker_knight: so, why add it to the product?
ANeMzero: Just walk through the invisible wall
Comeback323: oh wow that's intesnse
Comeback323: intense
ritchards: so I can break only some barriers then
ContingentCat: don't leave babby
staticdisplay: You had one job!
phenexian: so as far as I can tell in this world no one has any legally enforced or conventionally practised social responsibility too each other. It's essentially a future that's a libertarian's dream, where laws only exist to impede actions that would hinder others but which do not in anyway prescribe actions you should take.
CoyoteSans: @wicker_knight In that scene, it's a deviant, it's not supposed to have emotions, and Connor's all arc is trying to find out why that's happening becuase it REALLY shouldn't be.
PMAvers: If only there was a version of the house scene where you could just bury Todd in the backyard, and pretend he's just out of town.
Kykiwi: @AdmiralMemo but like that dosent mean the police cant help not like their going to thorw the girl in jail
tim19862: lrrSPOOP
Astra7525: VIrus uploaded
ryuhimora: pick her up and carry her, oh my god
Invitare: the ghost android
KodeMage: no, unsanitized data
Invitare: it was a data ghost
sir_jack_DB: that's so fucking contrived
tenthtechpriest: did baby not mention spoopy ghostman leaving?
accountmadeforants: Secret handshakes!
thomturtle: Rude baby, moving at the speed of plot.
AdmiralMemo: Wait... I'm looking at Alice's bracelet. It looks like it is the same blue as the android blood. Maybe the same chemical?
adi_pie: Baby walked away because she heard the sound of oncoming plot.
caulderjof: Also, the cops are looking for you because somehow they know you ran away with the girl and are deviant, despite there being no evidence of that being the case inside the house.
OriginalGarwulf: Subtle as a flying brick, isn't it?
TehAmelie: it seems like we're convinced that we know better than the law does how to protect the girl. that may be some advanced ethics for a one day old android
notBrunoAgain: 95% of Kara's processing power is now mining monero for a 14 year old in Kyrghyztan
CoyoteSans: @caulderjof Actually, the police alert is just that an android killed a man. Nothing about kidnapping a girl.
Nigouki: whoooooooaa there
ANeMzero: I'm going to be a dick to a small girl because she is with an android.
HondoTrigger: nice to see the salvation army is still around to terrorize
TheR676767: ???
SquirrelLord1111: Leavr
AdmiralMemo: Oh my
ArcOfTheConclave: leave?
CataclysmicReverb: Crimes!
TimbrePanic: that's hilarious
KodeMage: you still have the gun
caulderjof: @CoyoteSans There's also no evidence of that.
Juliamon: Yes! Low Prices
AdmiralMemo: Detroit: GTA
silenceaux: Gun was inside you all along?
shinumei: Leave
Astra7525: DO we just have to a crimes
staticdisplay: Get a head start on this life of crime
Dared00: GUN
SydPreviouslyHeadache: Yes
Heinzes_: you have CHOICE
adi_pie: Do androids come with head cannons?
Ximos: you don't need to crimes
niccus: this isn't commonly known but as an american, i see the gun prompt all the time
AmoriLinguae: can we leave?
KodeMage: your nervous pacing is in character
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans Connor demonstrates similar responses though, pre-deviancy. So does Kara. I get that the conceit is that the model human-like behavior, similar to Westworld. But Westworld explains it in relation to the themepark nature of the world, what's the explanation here? As you said, making a functional AI in the Siri mold have social responses is basically a strict negative
RealGamerCow: refreshing can of lime juice
Dared00: Detroit: Become GUN
phenexian: hahaahah we have a storage cavity right inside our mouth.
Heinzes_: shoplift, rob, steal
notBrunoAgain: Of course every android comes standard with a .45 fitted within its torso. This is America, god damn it!
Astra7525: Could we have taken money with us when we fled I wonder
docsamurai: SIR! SIR! Those are LIMES sir!
Master_Gunner: can... can you not just go to the cops? Ask for a lift to a shelter?
KodeMage: she doesn't need food now... she can go a day or two without
AdmiralMemo: Interface with the camera?
Licourtrix: Ok, I am a little...perturbed it didn't simply give you a choice to walk away
TimbrePanic: Alice wanted Orange not Lemon Lime
KodeMage: she needs shelter
margieargie: canned
AdmiralMemo: Looks static to me
KodeMage: they need the police...
staticdisplay: @Master_Gunner She doesn't want to get deactivated
accountmadeforants: I'm waiting for the title drop, where we become Hugh Mann
CoyoteSans: @wicker_knight Connor isn't meant to have emotions, he's designed to fake them very well to get the desired responses from humans and apparently deviants.
lorlyric_nekosune1389: i wish i was an android
hajnal_endot: what did i miss since the last break
AdmiralMemo: "Use" Alice
wicker_knight: @CoyoteSans which is not how he acts, from moment one
TimbrePanic: use prop child
CoyoteSans: He's a designed sociopath, essentially.
Orgmastron: Uuuuuuhhhhhhh
ContingentCat: use?
caulderjof: Use her as bludgeon.
thomturtle: As a distraction.
SydPreviouslyHeadache: oh to knock over the sodas?
Heinzes_: USE CHILD
caulderjof: To knock the man out.
KodeMage: have her ask?
shinumei: Use Child
Mister_Skittles: the police in this world have been proven to not treat androids very well. why would they go to them
tapdancingbeavers: use Alice as club
BloodnBullets: club man with child
kanimaras: throw the child at the guy, steal cash from register?
accountmadeforants: Use Child As Gun
tim19862: uhh
aitsu100: this baby's loaded give use money
CleeKru: AS a distraction
head_cannon: Throw Baby
AdmiralMemo: Use her as a bludgeon
Dared00: Yeet Alice at the shopowner
NathanJay_GA: VoteNay
caulderjof: You do still have the gun.
SpoonfullOfSugar: You have to equip Alice before you can use Alice
TimbrePanic: baby for bullets?
ghostvalv: use child on man's head
TraceBullet: throw alice at guy, steal money
silenceaux: Probably Use Baby As Distraction
wicker_knight: obviously it's false, and as far as the fiction is concerned I'm fine with that
docsamurai: Nono, use babby as club
theneatestburrito: VoteNay
Alness49: Use Child (1/1 charges)
phenexian: do it and findout
PMAvers: Alice opens her mouth, and a gun barrel extends out?
kanimaras: kind of need to know now..
RealGamerCow: I mean, she is a murderer.
kat2kool: I assume it's for shoplifting???
thenb44: distraction to steal
KodeMage: @Mister_Skittles the kid needs to be in protective services
ANeMzero: Gift of the Magi but with Baby. You sell the baby to get money to shelter the baby
Dared00: YEET
Zebunisher: use alice as a club?
CleeKru: distraction!!!!
SK__Ren: Use as distraction I bet
TraceBullet: crimes
hajnal_endot: what does that mean? that 'droid needs therapy
RealGamerCow: what's a little robbery?
Contiguouskittycat: That prompt makes me think of just like "Pick up utility child and beat cashier with it"
TheR676767: child for currency
CoyoteSans: You can do things in this sequence other than this store, btw.
silenceaux: Okay, do this, but don't steal anything
Invitare: and now the android is breaking the law. These are not well programmed at all
Bradway1: We will teach child crime
ZachtlyAsIntended: Turn baby into acomp-alice
Mister_Skittles: @KodeMage this makes alot more sense at the end of the game tbh
Kykiwi: lol
Pairoschuz: [X] Use Baby Distraction
Heinzes_: too late
TheR676767: do crimes child
AdmiralMemo: Now steal stuff?
PMAvers: Customers: the fucking worst.
silenceaux: Just prank this man and leave
AdmiralMemo: Oh...
kanimaras: steal cookies
docsamurai: Be gay do crimes
Kykiwi: LOl
SquirrelLord1111: Dont do crimes
AdmiralMemo: THAT'S what that was for.
HondoTrigger: go do crimes!
Kykiwi: smooth
hajnal_endot: be droid do crimes
RealGamerCow: that is not the reaction I expected
accountmadeforants: Steal stuff from nice person
TehAmelie: sort of funny if you take the wording of that prompt as machine logic that just sounds weird in the context of human language
Lithobraker: oh, now he's worried about the kid
tim19862: Greg rules, ok?
AdmiralMemo: That is NOT what US money looks like.
Kykiwi: robo crimes robo crims
Heinzes_: 50 DOLLARS
wicker_knight: and sadness
NexVesica: We rewarded his kindness by teaching him a lesson. Trust no one
tenthtechpriest: that is going right out of his paycheck
Mister_Skittles: stealth android
TehAmelie: Alice will remember this
TimbrePanic: Nathan was a dick ok Alice
Juliamon: The game made us do it, honey
Pairoschuz: You just SHOT your dad
SixPairsOfFeet: stealing from corporations hurts nobody
Cepsys: good point small girl
phenexian: and because this is late stage capitalism, that man is now fired and will be homeless at the end of the month.
Bradway1: Crime bad
wicker_knight: now return the money
PMAvers: Until we need a diversion.
ANeMzero: Alice will remember that
thomturtle: Alice....
silenceaux: This is seems like a lot of insight for a child of Alice's age but idk
caulderjof: She doesn't complain when you steal stranger's clothes though.
ritchards: Lie Mode Engaged
Alness49: She's heard that one before
SquirrelLord1111: Be a good peron, dont do the crimes
TheR676767: let's have this LOUD CONVERSATION
TheWriterAleph: "...until necessity demands again"
staticdisplay: "You shouldn't steal", says the killer
Diabore: next time you get to steal the money
Laserbeaks_Fury: Keep Summer Safe
SydPreviouslyHeadache: I feel like the situation alice is in, she would understand
Heinzes_: until the next time the game railroads you into doing crimes
Lithobraker: Who checks the cash register immediately? I never checked the till until i had to close off my shift
Astra7525: Can you pull the gun and actually just sell it to him?
Soul1355: beating a man to death with his severed head sounds like a pretty easy task
KodeMage: don't go to that hotel... the police will find you real fast
shinumei: T1000 Aproves!
wicker_knight: @Lithobraker someone suspicious he just got robbed
omdorastrix: Jonny cab?
accountmadeforants: "I'll never do it again', how old is the android compared to the human child, anyway?
phenexian: Also, where's this moral high ground coming from little girl, you killed a man. TODAY
caulderjof: @Astra7525 Nope, only gun option is armed robbery.
KodeMage: that's about right for that kind of place
TehAmelie: the game is very vague about whether the scene where she ended up shooting dad still counts
kat2kool: or put her hair down
TheWriterAleph: sleep in a dryer
hajnal_endot: crime time!
tapdancingbeavers: Pay for child to stay and just wait outside?
ContingentCat: gotta steal more stuff first
offbeatwitch: BE ROBOT DO CRIMES
ANeMzero: Detroit: Become Crime.
AdmiralMemo: Robo-crimes
Lithobraker: OK, if we go back to the store we can get the cashier's clothes. or wear his skin
SquirrelLord1111: If you go to the parking lot everything is fine in the end
notBrunoAgain: I feel like this sequence being constracted as a traditional object-tree puzzle is really kinda weird and offputting as a follow up to, you know, the domestic abuse sequence
TraceBullet: let's do some crimes
PMAvers: You're right, alice, I won't steal again.
TheWriterAleph: gregg rulez okay
KodeMage: Swartzenager him?
PMAvers: Until I steal again.
Ominouslyominous: Crimes!
offbeatwitch: gregg rulez
kanimaras: kleptomaniac robot
TimbrePanic: he must be listening to some beats by dre 5.0
SquirrelLord1111: Dont do it
ContingentCat: we said we'd never use her to steal
Kykiwi: lol
kat2kool: small child, you just did a murder
ContingentCat: ^
cmdrud87: og
Diabore: not looking do it now!
head_cannon: Fine, little girl, you get to catch pnemonia. Happy?
tknocker: eddddsdddddddddd
KodeMage: You shot your dad! You have a crime buffer.
SquirrelLord1111: Go to the parking lot
ritchards: Put Alice in the dryer
accountmadeforants: Dry the whole baby at once
Lithobraker: Put her in the dryer!
KodeMage: extra crimes are free.
PunkRockZoologist: Seriously though, this is why libraries are so important as indoor public spaces that you don't have to spend money to be inside.
kanimaras: keep child warm *Throws in dryer*
wicker_knight: yes Cam. strip the small child in a public building. That won't cause problems :P
shinumei: We dont wnat alice learn to steal Protect alice in any way
Heinzes_: bees
tknocker: Sorry. That was my daughter. lol.
Rhynerd: Maybe there’s a lost and found nearby?
chibi_bento: yes -- libraries are so so so important
Nigouki: well that's no good
Comeback323: don't steal says the killer
tenthtechpriest: rip bees
ANeMzero: Bees gone forever.
Mister_Skittles: @PunkRockZoologist its clearly very late. a library wouldnt be open. they need a hostel
ryuhimora: again, why is it swipe DOWN to turn the page?
Orgmastron: RIP bees :(
Pairoschuz: Not the bees!
Astra7525: Bees are extinct. Build Cyberbees
drcthulu: The pollenating mines
Namboto: oh hey look it's ze bad game
tim19862: yeah
Dared00: rest in bees
PMAvers: Sounds like a job for android BEES
wicker_knight: so are modern fruit farms cam
TehAmelie: also, 24 hour gyms are great if you're homeless. we'd probably barely have to dive into those 50 bucks to stay the night
ANeMzero: The pear mines are only hiring until we make Robutt bees
Astra7525: I call them CyBees
Lithobraker: There's an entire region of China where all the trees are human pollinated.
RabidWallaby84: Is this game available on PC?
accountmadeforants: I refuse to believe this Android society hasn't solved this through nanomachines yet, son
tenthtechpriest: robees
caulderjof: Android bees never suffer from sudden colony collapse.
Dared00: @rabidwallaby84 not yet, coming this year
drcthulu: I've seen enough science fiction to know robotic bees are a bad idea
SquirrelLord1111: Go to the Parking Lot
ANeMzero: @RabidWallaby84 It's coming to Epics store.. sometime. Later.
caulderjof: Until they go deviant.
Vyous: We built this fully self aware human like android. . . it's job is to polinate fruit trees with this q-tip
Rhynerd: Can android bees become africanized?
Amentur: Android bees? I remember that Black Mirror episode
PunkRockZoologist: *sigh* Honey bees will not go extinct. They're being farmed and cultivated, they're fine. It's the other species of bees we need to worry about.
staticdisplay: He can sleep here because he's a paying customer
TraceBullet: you could always go to the haunted abandoned mansion
RealGamerCow: Android bees? That sounds like a Doctor Wiley solution.
caulderjof: I hope they go to the house.
ryuhimora: that's not how ANYTHING works Cam
phenexian: So, this game has some interesting themes, but it doesn't really explore them well because its so concerned with having "gameplay" it has large poorly structured sequences that don't utilise the themes for ages.
AdmiralMemo: @PunkRockZoologist Yep. Honeybees are an invasive species and I don't think most people know that.
Namboto: "why did we give the androids free will and then enslave them?"
RabidWallaby84: @ANeMzero bah! I don't want to give them my money :(
RealGamerCow: Make a hair suit from the barber shop clippings.
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo in fairness, I don't think most people are aware that "honeybee" refers to a specific subset of bee
kat2kool: "Put some grill IN your grill!"
TehAmelie: "good food" grill or good "food" grill?
AmoriLinguae: what if you could wait 8 hours real time in the laundromat?
TraceBullet: "Watch out someone is coming" ??
ANeMzero: @RabidWallaby84 Then it'll be a year from.. later
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight True
ryuhimora: is that alivem'n or deadm'n?
Nigouki: use the hobo as a tauntaun?
ThinksTooMuch: I mean, given some of the restaurant names I've seen, I'd believe that "Good Food Grill" exists somewhere
RabidWallaby84: @ANeMzero I hate when distributors pay for exclusives. :( All it does it hurt consumers
caulderjof: You also only stole $20 and that sign says $40.
docsamurai: As a resident of the Great Lakes area I can confirm that Good Food Grill is a cherished and integral part of the culture
TimbrePanic: onward to the haunte dmansion
PunkRockZoologist: @admiralmemo They out compete native Australian possums and bats for tree hollows. Not to mention native bees that pollinate native plants.
Rhynerd: I think I drove past a place called Good Food Grill on a road trip.
SquirrelLord1111: Parking Lot
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight @PunkRockZoologist See also this Film Theory video:
TehAmelie: i still like They China Food! in John Dies at the End
Laserbeaks_Fury: For Sale By Some Random Person
BloodnBullets: i believe the red squares on the doors are "no androids" signs
hajnal_endot: what *do* you like, kid
TehAmelie: it's not even chinese food. . .
Alness49: Child, work with us
kat2kool: Listen baby, it's either trespassing or theft: choose a crime
TimbrePanic: use Alice, she might work as a wire cutter
ANeMzero: Go Go Gadget Wirecutter!
ContingentCat: are we a wire cutter?
caulderjof: I'll tell you where you're not getting a wire cutter: The convenience store.
SydPreviouslyHeadache: wait how old is alice?
ZachtlyAsIntended: The store!
ryuhimora: gamePLAY?
Diabore: time to go stealin again
NexVesica: I'm sorry my crimes aren't as exciting as your crimes, Alice
wicker_knight: @SydPreviouslyHeadache Child years old
ritchards: !time
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Alness49: This feels like sub-lucasarts point and click gameplay
PunkRockZoologist: @admiralmemo Dang, blocked in my region.
hajnal_endot: no binteraction for you
SydPreviouslyHeadache: ok so not actually established then,right
AdmiralMemo: @PunkRockZoologist lrrWOW
AliceLovelin: I have the stream in the background while I play some MTG, and whenever you talk about the girl I for some reason feel like I'm being called out lol
wicker_knight: @PunkRockZoologist The title is "The BEE movie lied to you"
notBrunoAgain: such interaction, much agency
AdmiralMemo: @PunkRockZoologist Time to break out the VPN
Contiguouskittycat: Smol one, we are literally fugitives. We're gonna have to break the law on some level again just to survive here, okay? We're not gonna kill anymore people, but y'know. Some theft or trespassing is not out of the question.
Namboto: press button to gameplay
head_cannon: If the girl was visibly traumatized from the murder she did, I'd be more understanding of how hard she's fighting you here. But she just seems bored.
wicker_knight: i have no idea what Bee movie is being referenced, and also don't claim to know much about bee ecology
PMAvers: See, Alice? If it's not locked, it's not a crime.
PunkRockZoologist: @admiralmemo yuuuup. Need to get on to that.
EvilBadman: head_cannon almost robotic.
Diabore: really? ya think?
TehAmelie: today Alice became a self-made orphan. aging may not be in the cards anymore
CoyoteSans: Remember, you have Arkham Vision.
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight It's literally called "The Bee Movie" and it stars Jerry Seinfeld as a bee in a relationship with a human woman. It was... not good.
caulderjof: And you're up $20!
tim19862: ugh
ContingentCat: @caulderjof 50!
CoyoteSans: @AdmiralMemo Apparently it's also a popular nostalgia meme machine for Gen Zers.
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo benginWat was there some truth I would expect out of that? benginWat
tenthtechpriest: yes, three cuts is all it takes to make that hole
tim19862: that's too much control
thenb44: I N T E R A C T I O N
Rockario: Do those seem like kinda weenie wire-cutters for getting through a fence?
silenceaux: swat fence on babby
freshmaker__: Now my highly detectable blood is here in this location.
ryuhimora: @Rockario yes.
TehAmelie: um was that even a cutter? i thought it looked like pliers
TheR676767: robot tetanus
wicker_knight: makes about as much sense as not being able to climb chickenwire
PMAvers: More like snips
Vyous: There was the first recorded case of tetnis in years recently. . .
Rockario: @TehAmelie They were the kind of cutter you use making electronics
Vyous: (in the US)
caulderjof: @TehAmelie Lots of pliers have wire cutters at the base.
silenceaux: Oooh, lovely murals
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight Well, the bees fight for their "rights" in court, win, get to keep all their honey instead of having it harvested, and then find out that because they don't pollinate anymore, the world is dying... So yeah.
Contiguouskittycat: Remember kids, catch Tetris, not Tetanus.
ContingentCat: oh no
wicker_knight: @AdmiralMemo brain hurts now
AdmiralMemo: @wicker_knight Yeah.
tim19862: lrrSPOOP lrrEFF
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TheR676767: same model as ghost man
TheR676767: ?
Pairoschuz: Wreck-It Ralph has really fallen on hard times
PunkRockZoologist: @admiralmemo Wow! That sounds like a movie that would make me mad in a lot of ways.
caulderjof: Yeah, same model as garbage man.
Rhynerd: “She just killed a man for me, dude.”
Dared00: Yup
Namboto: GUN
notBrunoAgain: GUN
NexVesica: When in doubt, gun
TheR676767: must choose gun
AdmiralMemo: @PunkRockZoologist Yep, and as such, it was nice to see it get ripped to shreds. :D
notBrunoAgain: I'm getting flashbacks to tumblr circa 2014
notBrunoAgain: Android hook car hand gun
TehAmelie: and if you start anything i will wrestle you and she will stab you in the back
Invitare: he seems stable enough to spend the night with
ryuhimora: this seems like a bad choice
MilkInBag: the normal happy knife dance
margieargie: What could possibly go wrong!
ContingentCat: not like we have choices
notBrunoAgain: Man even the androids can't escape terrible mental illness stereotypes apparently
m0nkeyrama: Happy knife dance seabatTROG
AdmiralMemo: Yep... Happy Knife Dance...
kat2kool: what a safe choice we have made
hajnal_endot: he sounds like he's having a good day
Stoffern: What do androids use to recharge? Does Ralph have a charger in here?
Gekyouryuu: that girl is going to need SO MUCH THERAPY
freshmaker__: Alice has turned down every other option. She doesn't get a say anymore
shinumei: Alice in Wonderland KomodoHype
BloodnBullets: "you follow ol ralph! he knows the way"
TehAmelie: i think they feed on emotions
MilkInBag: Ralph will feast tonight :)
ANeMzero: Human's come in from time to time but they never go out.
sir_jack_DB: !ing
LRRbot: nginginginging...
RealGamerCow: Hey Ralphie buddy, can you maybe put away that 10" knife?
m0nkeyrama: Look how giddy the guy is, what could go wrong?
TimbrePanic: lrrFINE
ryuhimora: so what kind of power supply are these androids running on?
Diabore: he hides form other humans and tries to stab a little girl?
TheR676767: stop flinging that knife around ralph
Rhynerd: But ralph didn’t hide this time?
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ANeMzero: Welcome to Hotel Ralph, humans check in..
PMAvers: Ralph has to prepare THE MACHINE
EvilBadman: Since we're nearing the end, do you want a spoiler that may re-contextualize the Kara scenes?
Invitare: *looks at British news*... meanwhile in Canada "Trudeau sorry for eating chocolate in vote - BBC News "
Zebunisher: does ralph have to qorks on his human-flesh-costume?
Boros_Burger_Battalion: The two years!
Alness49: Ralph needs to feed the generator with bio-fuels, and Ralph has a lot of... meat to process
TehAmelie: dang we are moist
ANeMzero: I'll start a fire. Smash cut to blazing inferno.
Diabore: that sounds like a great idea in a WOODEN HOUSE
SixPairsOfFeet: bed alice in the fire
Contiguouskittycat: That man is the very model of stable. Stable....stab-able. OH GOD RUN
ritchards: Set Alice on Fire, two birds in one!
TimbrePanic: ABeMzero but they don't check out ? Heyoo
samwonk: Sit down, I have to burn this house to the ground.
Kykiwi: a fire in adava cage game? nothing can go wrong
kat2kool: @EvilBadman they'll probably play this again next week
Rhynerd: I think I’d rather take the abandoned car at this point.
caulderjof: Yeah, I was actually mad that starting a fire is not optional. You have to do a thing that would100% attractive police to the abandoned building.
AdmiralMemo: @EvilBadman It's a spoiled stream, so you're free to do so if you want
EvilBadman: @kat2kool Fair, they also mentioned be open to spoilers
1losttheGame: so why dont we take the girl to the police?
TehAmelie: how time flies
NexVesica: Pretty much all the Kara scenes
EvilBadman: Basically, this one and the one with Alice and her dad
KidSpanner: I heard "Kara Scene" as "kerosene".
staticdisplay: I'm. An. Ord. Din. Ary. Robot. BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE
MolaMolaphant: arrived for like 3 minutes of stream. Nailed it.
AmoriLinguae: How are you liking the game itself?
silenceaux: Ah yes, the inside-squat
AdmiralMemo: This decision tree is SPRAWLING
Lithobraker: Contiguouskittycat Ralph is very stable. Why do you think Ralph is not stable. Do you not like Ralph? You hate Ralph. Ralph is afraid of you.
crabbyconner17: haiii im neww here
cryptogamby: Cam just saying gameplay is so caoming
cryptogamby: Calming
Rockario: I wasn't sure if Ralph was referring to itself, or the person in charge of the house at first
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AdmiralMemo: @Rockario I mean, that's fair.
AdmiralMemo: Wait... LOL
AdmiralMemo: He has a Twitch
MilkInBag: oh no
MilkInBag: DC was summoned
Alness49: Oh... oh no...
SK__Ren: Classism?
aitsu100: its more classist than race
AdmiralMemo: It's more classist than racist?
notBrunoAgain: This game isn't about anything to a significant degree
Ximos: lol
phenexian: hahahahaahha
1losttheGame: OH
tim19862: welp
KidSpanner: Ohmygod.
theneatestburrito: LUL
BusTed: Get dunked on.
CoyoteSans: clip it
SydPreviouslyHeadache: HA Damn
niccus: amazing timing
SK__Ren: Caste society?
m0nkeyrama: LUL that timing
Orgmastron: lrrWOW
Astra7525: oh my god, the timing
SpoonfullOfSugar: It heard you!!!
aitsu100: wow
kat2kool: hahahaha
ANeMzero: Clip it
freshmaker__: TIMING
AdmiralMemo: Hahahaha
MoonWhing: lol
ryuhimora: goddammit game
MilkInBag: Fun fact
Tisme_: lolol
SixPairsOfFeet: lmao
wicker_knight: I'd say it's referencing too many things, and so nothing
Juliamon: I'm......
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Ridgenator: LUL
Tyrannoeil: Wow!
RealGamerCow: timing please
phenexian: that was beyond perfect
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EdwardGein: timing!
samwonk: I don't think it's about race, it just drops the symbology of race all over the place for no reason.
Amentur: #NotPolitical
Angnor33: Subtlety!
AmoriLinguae: F
Bradway1: The game got you
ContingentCat: HAHAHAHA
CloudyMrK: it's Skynet propaganda. burn the machines!!!
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ghostvalv: lrrSPOOP
Namboto: David Cage is such a hack
tim19862: NOT a metaphor Kappa lrrFRUMP
NexVesica: Sweet, that just gave me David Cage bingo
forlornhope22: lol
SquirrelLord1111: Hit by thoe facts
silenceaux: Just get rolled, I guess
ritchards: !clip
cosarprime: Amazing.
FickleMuse: It's at least about 'the other'
StarFreak359: WELP
MolaMolaphant: touches on bigotry and bias, but it's not bashing us over the head until THAT happened
Foxmar320: Game heard you talking about it
Boiler_bot: Well I guess y'all just got served.
GarQuithnik: Unsubscribe Detroit Facts
CataclysmicReverb: I really don't like the theme that the need for drama commands, where a soul is only created from suffering.
RAICx: That timing. Perfect.
Rockario: Which metaphorical meaning applied to this game feels like it varies from scene to scene
Baldrash: This "interactive experience" makes me irrationally angry.
HondoTrigger: did someone clip that
SixPairsOfFeet: this game isn't about racism, it's about state's rights
Alness49: Good news is the busses in this game wern't moving all that fast when you got thrown under it
kat2kool: @HondoTrigger working on it
Foxmar320: ???
notBrunoAgain: lmfao
tenthtechpriest: mood
tim19862: LUL
margieargie: Thanks.
Dared00: ok
MilkInBag: ride shiny and chrome
Astra7525: the French writer. The only one
CoyoteSans: The game is actively trolling Cameron, specifically, now.
aitsu100: the random faces is so weird
Foxmar320: I feel like shes watching the stream
aitsu100: *facts
freshmaker__: and that man was albert einstein
SuperSugarSloth: katesS
wicker_knight: benginWat
Pal_Friendpatine: And can I just say she is dang pretty?
CleeKru: prolonged eyecontact!!!!!
adi_pie: Thank you for the stream.
Vezon46: did i catch the end? how did yall like it?
freshmaker__: You two are making this game a lot more enjoyable
Ominouslyominous: thanks for playing this so I don't have to
Contiguouskittycat: Detroit: Make Hummus.
Astra7525: Are playing to completion?
Astra7525: +you
Soul1355: oh right, evening spoops
m0nkeyrama: Just Ben, no Adam?
AdmiralMemo: Crafty Yoshi! I liked that game!
ContingentCat: Ben and?
tim19862: Only Ben?
Amentur: I'm so happy Ben got a 'copy' of Devotion
Rhynerd: In about an hour, right?
tapdancingbeavers: bye
TehAmelie: yay for the future
MolaMolaphant: farewell folks!
wicker_knight: #Content
TheMerricat: lol
FarleyF: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam sit down and play some spoopy games! Game: Devotion) at Tue 05:00 PM PDT (30s ago).
TehAmelie: not the one in this game, but, you know, the real one
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
tim19862: Thanks for the stream Cori and Cameron! lrrHEART lrrDARK katesWave
wicker_knight: TYFS
Rhynerd: More content!
Type_One___: oh shit
Rhynerd: Thanks for the stream!
kat2kool: katesThank
Despoiler98: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam sit down and play some spoopy games! Game: Devotion) at Tue 05:00 PM PDT (48s ago).
Type_One___: I missed the entire stream
Type_One___: whoopsie
wicker_knight: it was a good one, I think. I only joined over halfway in
Juliamon: Take comfort in knowing you're likely not alone. New schedules take time to get used to.
wicker_knight: off to VOD
AdmiralMemo: @Type_One___ It was pretty good, so catch the VOD unless you're here for Let's Nope
Mox_Hagdorm: Ooh, Devotion came back on the market??
stateofcomatose: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam sit down and play some spoopy games! Game: Devotion) at Tue 05:00 PM PDT (1m ago).
m0nkeyrama: Ben managed to find a way to get the game
wicker_knight: also, I don't know if CoyoteSans is still in chat, but if you are: I thought about it some more and you're right. I overreached when I was complaining about the emotionality of hte machines
wicker_knight: I can have other problems with this game, but that's one that really calls for a sure
banana_swonk: !updog
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 20:38:41. lrrSPOT
red_shoes_jeff: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam sit down and play some spoopy games! Game: Devotion) at Tue 05:00 PM PDT (2m ago).
SquirrelLord1111: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam sit down and play some spoopy games! Game: Devotion) at Tue 05:00 PM PDT (3m ago).
RealGamerCow: is watch and play bi-weekly still? and still 2 hours? and now on Mondays?
Juliamon: !schedule
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wicker_knight: watch and play is on hiatus until Graham finishes editing roadquest I believe
m0nkeyrama: When it returns from the RQ hiatus, yes
Juliamon: !wphiatus
LRRbot: Watch & Play is on a temporary hiatus while Graham wraps up Road Quest editing. It will return!
wicker_knight: oh, there you go
AmoriLinguae: who's excited for both RQ and the return of W+P?
wicker_knight: One suspects Graham and Matt of being locked in a basement somewhere, editing furiously at most hours of day and night
SquirrelLord1111: Same
wicker_knight: every once in a while Ben asks one of them to leave so he can edit a sketch or Heather asks for some time to push a video
Juliamon: After the preview clips from the PAX East panel... oh you better believe I'm excited
m0nkeyrama: Totally, RQ looks like it'll be a ton of fun
Juliamon: (incidentally, Ben has pulled back from editing duties)
Simonark: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Let's Nope (Ben and Adam sit down and play some spoopy games! Game: Devotion) at Tue 05:00 PM PDT (6m ago).
wicker_knight: oh right
AmoriLinguae: oh sweet, I didn't even think they'd preview at PAX
Juliamon: They had TWO previews!
m0nkeyrama: double preview clips at PAX East
m0nkeyrama: seabatTROG
wicker_knight: All I've seen was the original pilot, and I liked that
Juliamon: One at the beginning and the end of the panel
wicker_knight: so, looking forward to it in a general sense
SquirrelLord1111: Hype
wicker_knight: benginWat
Despoiler98: creepy banjo >.>
m0nkeyrama: lrrSIGNAL lrrSPOOP lrrSIGNAL lrrSPOOP
tastethebeams: lrrSPOOP
TemporallyAwry: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrFINE ?
Despoiler98: slytqWTF
banana_swonk: Snignal
BusTed: lrrSPOOP
brainbosh: I completely forgot what they were playing until the music came on.
Amentur: Not a banjo lrrSPOOP
m0nkeyrama: Well now, my left ear
Meyari: lrrSPOOP lrrSPOOP
RealGamerCow: Chinese?
ryuhimora: is alex on?
AmoriLinguae: lrrSPOOP lrrAWW
notarealartist: i love this
wicker_knight: South Chinese I think?
Lithobraker: Is this Korean or Chinese?
AmoriLinguae: I think I hear tones, but Chinese isn't the only language with tones
kumatsu: I'm lrrSPOOP out by this music
notarealartist: uh oh
m0nkeyrama: Very lrrSPOOP
EvilBadman: chinese. Game was made in...Taiwan
Despoiler98: this is creepy slytqWTF slytqWTF
wicker_knight: Korean might explain the Banjo? I am very out of my depth here...
Juliamon: Game needs to be updated I think, still showing as Detroit here
Amentur: Taiwanese Devs. You could say chinese but that brings up problems lrrSPOOP
LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> It's time to get TRULY spoopy. The Let's NOPE is here on it's newly schedule time slot! LATE NIGHT SPOOPS COMMENCE! | 📷 ||
stateofcomatose: uhhh
TheMerricat: Perfect Kotaku headline: "I Played No Man's Sky VR And Almost Punched Sean Murray In The Face"
BusTed: this track slaps
Rockario: That static sounds enough like someone just making the noise with their mouth that I like to think it's part of the music
red_shoes_jeff: lrrJUDGE lrrSPOOP
m0nkeyrama: Is this.... a banger? 🤔
Ermerq: wait talking sim followed by let's nope? Is it my birthday? love this new schedule!
EvilBadman: this is the same dev as Detention, but this is in first person
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coolbond: is this chinese or korean?
stateofcomatose: lrrSPOOP lrrSPOOP lrrSPOOP
azninsect: spoopy scary schedule change woooo lrrSPOOP
RealGamerCow: Ah, Taiwanese makes sense, it sounded slightly different to what I was used to.
Juliamon: Detention was... Taiwanese, right?
Remix_SC: (-;
m0nkeyrama: Spoops into the night, now 👀
TheMerricat: @coolbond given the devs are Korean, I'm guessing Korean.
coolbond: wait this is a sequel to detention?
banana_swonk: what is this statis
wicker_knight: yes, Detention was Taiwanese
InkyGhoast: lrrSPOOP spoopy jams! lrrSPOOP
BusTed: Play that same song again!
Remix_SC: -'/
EvilBadman: @TheMerricat Taiwanese not korean
Aarek: lrrSPOOP
SquirrelLord1111: This music is too spoopy
space20021: Yes it's Taiwanese
SpecialKolin: I’m spooped
Remix_SC: irrSPOOP
TheMerricat: I sit corrected. :-)
m0nkeyrama: seabatTROG lrrSPOOP benginHeart
Remix_SC: oop2s forgot
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ggyppt: So close to 2 years, Have spoopy fun you guys
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ghostvalv: lrrSPOOP
m0nkeyrama: Heeeeeey Ben!
wicker_knight: Thankfully, because chat is not an international business, we can actually call it Taiwan instead of "Chinese Taipei"
Rhynerd: Showtime!
wicker_knight: MAWP
ForOhForError: lrrSPOOP
Amentur: A solo Ben lrrSPOOP
red_shoes_jeff: Hi Ben.
kumatsu: oh geeze audio balance
APODionysus: benginDab
Despoiler98: smooches spoopes?
Dix: This isn't Now Kiss
m0nkeyrama: pogchamp100 Evening spoops!
Mr_Whyt: yes please
stateofcomatose: Hey!
HondoTrigger: I'd like an evening smooch from ben
Juliamon: I mean... sure?
Stoffern: this aint Now Kiss
kumatsu: Talking Sim was much lower
ulexarX: Evening Spooches
InkyGhoast: lrrSPOOP benginTraitor lrrSPOOP benginTraitor lrrSPOOP benginTraitor
freshmaker__: awww evening smooches
Kramburger: Smoops- Smoochy Spoops
Meyari: lrrHEART lrrHEART
wicker_knight: Let's Nope Now Kiss Crossover?
HorusFive: Don't tease Ben ;)
TheMerricat: You are way louder than the music was
kumatsu: so my volume was up
wicker_knight: it's probably fine
atlas624: I'm not sure I want Spoopy Kisses
coolbond: sure get right in here ben
NimrodXIV: time to make out with Ben! benginLol
m0nkeyrama: LUL
red_shoes_jeff: Welcome to Now Kiss, everyone.
wicker_knight: Cori and Cam were VERY quiet
TehAmelie: if you want to be on Now Kiss i'm sure Kathleen has a waiting lsit :)
tapdancingbeavers: Let's KISS
SpecialKolin: Smooches plz will also accept spoops
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shurtal: New Spoopy Time, same Spoopy Boi!
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m0nkeyrama: Bit of a shift
APODionysus: I was just smooched... by lady butterfly’s KNIVES
Nigouki: oh no, Ben is alone for this? wait it's even worse! he's alone with chat!
thomturtle: So much joy, lookit that smile.
RealGamerCow: Adam, please get sleep.
Diabore: good for adam friend!
AGiantRoach: Poor Adam. Moving is the worst
ritchards: Get James in then
Despoiler98: slytqWTF slytqWTF slytqWTF slytqItsfine slytqItsfine
freshmaker__: Solo spoopin
kumatsu: Going home? Sounds illegal. James can just sleep in the prop room
CopperAstronaut: fun fun, time for them spoops.
RassilonDND: quick question chat, is Detroit become human still the game marked for the stream?
Despoiler98: GET JAMES DAD
m0nkeyrama: Adam needs rest, he's been going nonstop
Diabore: why not steal james?
Sadistic_Fire: There is that bed in the prop room
banana_swonk: @RassilonDND still like that for me as well
StreetCornerPoet: Do the mash, do the monster mash...
Juliamon: Ben, can you update the game?
TheR676767: warning, loud boy
tim19862: lrrSPOOP nettyMetal kaypikeHYPE
red_shoes_jeff: DEPLOY THE JAEMS!
HondoTrigger: Adam? loud? no way
Nightvalien28: "little"
TheManaLeek: Ear damage warning, got it
malexus101: hello Ben and chat! I'm gonna check this out and probably see this tomorrow!
TheMerricat: It does still show as Detroit for me after a refresh.
stateofcomatose: Loud Bois!!!
ritchards: If you are seeing old game, refresh
Despoiler98: Nothing can compress the BEN
red_shoes_jeff: Down from a 40 to a 30.
tim19862: TS was pretty quiet to be fair
AGiantRoach: I can't fault Adam if by the end of the week he just goes into hibernation.
m0nkeyrama: Loud spoopy bois seabatTROG benginDab
freshmaker__: compress deez nuts. gotteem
ritchards: I refreshed, and it shows Devotion
Dwinick: ben was just japanese sword fighting!
RealGamerCow: freshmaker__ you beat me to it!
Sadistic_Fire: !game
LRRbot: Currently playing: Detroit: Become Human
korvys: Ben and Adam have High Dynamic Range
red_shoes_jeff: Is this game suitable for Cardiac People!?
MythosMagic: I really want to play this. I can't believe it was taken off Steam
Ermerq: likely not suitable for cardiac peoole
TabbyLavalamp: I've seen Ben's Pokemon die. Nothing scares me anymore.
atlas624: @MythosMagic Chinese censorship is no joke sadly
tim19862: ah yeah
Diabore: mono black or mono blue? Kappa
sirsquashua subscribed at Tier 1.
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eric_christian_berg: lrrCREEPL lrrCREEPR
shurtal: Devotion? So we're mono blue Master of Waves? OR mono black Gary?
McTwin subscribed at Tier 1. They've subscribed for 15 months!
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atlas624: MonoRed Winnie The Pooh
MythosMagic: @shurtal Mono black Gary most definitely
Musicsquid: cheer1000 cheer100 cheer100 cheer100 cheer100 cheer100 Super excited for new timeslot so I can catch the spoops after work without missing any.
Mollymauk_Jay subscribed at Tier 1. They've subscribed for 38 months!
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FickleMuse: slytqLurk
Havtorn_Epsilon: It's fine, James convinced me to start digging a hole so I have somewhere to hide if it gets to spoopy
Dix: HAHAHA Gary.
MythosMagic: Called it.
freshmaker__: Mono Green Devotion
Juliamon: @LoadingReadyRun can you make sure the game is set correctly? It's still showing as Detroit: Become Human here
AGiantRoach: Wooo Mono Black! Best color!
BusTed: Too real.
TehAmelie: David Cage games are kind of existential horror
CamelAttack: Detroit Become Human?! Terrifying.
Amentur: David Cage's version of humans is rather scary
Mollymauk_Jay: David Cage writing is down right terrifying.
BusTed: slytqDance slytqDance slytqDance
m0nkeyrama: LUL
tim19862: \o/
m0nkeyrama: It sure is
freshmaker__: Go off, person singing this song. Get it!
banana_swonk: Spoopy Detroit Become Human
CopperAstronaut: let the spoops commence!