SAJewers: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Tinker Tailor Solder Fry (Ian is finishing up his Gunpla build and then taking a look at a Theramin. Which is a totally normal sentence.) at Thu 05:00 PM PST (24s from now).
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Rockario: TTSF coming up, yeah?
DarkMorford: SOON™
BrokenGolem: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
Arclight_Dynamo: Woo!
MagicWarluck: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> Tonight on Tinker Tailor Solder Fry Ian attempts to troubleshoot a theramin, and has gunpla on deck when he gives up. 📷 ||
LoadingReadyRun: Troubleshoot a theramin: Trouble? Shoot theramin!
Drasvin: The old Paranoia method: You are a Troubleshooter. You find trouble and you shoot it.
Nigouki: isn't the whole point of a theramin to make troublesome shooty noises?
Singenmeister: And wobbly-wobbly timely-wimey noises.
CaptainSpam: Whereamin?
asthanius: Whyamin
korvys: !quote adam
LRRbot: Quote #1696: "I don't want to be Graham Stark any more..." —Adam [2016-01-30]
DoodlestheGreat: Here-a-min, there-a-min, everywhere-a-min.
DoodlestheGreat: SOUND
asthanius: mic off
Robot_Bones: cold mic
noSmokeFire: Ian's mime act is impress
Drasvin: Mic is cold
Arclight_Dynamo: Ian, pls.
lucha_libro: no sound
DarkMorford: Do-over!
senshi5609: cold
MrQBear: Ah, good ol Ian, doing a silent film again
CaptainSpam: Well, there's your problem. Your mic's muted. No wonder your theramin isn't working.
mynameisie: Heck
Arclight_Dynamo: Mic live, but quiet.
noSmokeFire: we're heeeeeere
Drasvin: Sound is good
Arclight_Dynamo: Might be on room mic.
DoodlestheGreat: Jocularity abounds!
GenericHerooo: !u´ptime
noSmokeFire: @LoadingReadyRun hi Matt, hi Paul
korvys: Close enough!
GenericHerooo: !uptime
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Arclight_Dynamo: @LoadingReadyRun Is Ian's mic actually on, or is he on room mic?
LoadingReadyRun: his mic is on
Arclight_Dynamo: Hm...
malc: sounds fine here...
HbombAndFriends: Tonight’s project: making a Late Night Dub Fight. First, I’m going to say a bunch of stuff with my mic off. We’re going to use this later...
GoblinRanger: Sounds fine to me
niccus: cori with a theremin sounds like a dangerous threat
Drasvin: Oh, make a LateNightDubFight of Desert Bus
ANeMzero: Next years random dance party button is a theremin, you have to hit a specific note and hold it for a second to trigger.
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SquareDotCube: Maybe some Good Vibrations
HbombAndFriends: Star Trek was 1960s.
DoodlestheGreat: Once you go black, you never go back. ConcernDoge
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noSmokeFire: AA! Real Batteries
noSmokeFire: electrical engineers are not good at UX
control_rig: Usability = 0
control_rig: Multimetermeter
niccus: alright, going one level deeper, time to repair the multimeter
control_rig: lrrGOAT
DarkMorford: You can get auto-ranging multimeters. The one I have, I just need to select the function (AC voltage, DC voltage, resistance, etc.) and it adjusts itself to the right range. I think the selector dial only has like 8 or 9 positions.
Vaygrim: Would a Multimeter Meter have an even *more* obtuse user interface?
BishopSansPants: That is a cool screwdriver.
DoodlestheGreat: Is it a sonic screwdriver?
DiscordianTokkan: IRL sonic(ally pleasing) screwdrivers are great
emonotony: Theremin Troubleshooting Team, huh
control_rig: Ca CAW
DiscordianTokkan: Cakaw!
MagicWarluck: Oooh, Ian has a tremendous taste in bewerages
DoodlestheGreat: As a porter, how does it compare to Sam Porter from "Death Stranding?"
Electrodyne: A working theramin is the only source of a wholesome "OwO"
swaggytaco: why can't other owos be wholesome
emonotony: Is a theremin something you'd see at orange for troubleshooters or is it straight up green or higher?
DoodlestheGreat: There are unwholesome OwO's?
BishopSansPants: ABD Ian, Always Be Documenting
DiscordianTokkan: @DoodlestheGreat Yes
emonotony: Ian's new YouTube channel, Recording Literally Every Step Of These Failed Repairs
offbeatwitch: might fuck around and get a T80 for xmas
emonotony: tbh given the amount of time I've gone "what on earth did I do and how do I reverse it?" with projects I do often look up disassembly videos.
SajuukSjet: this is sounding like any code review done a week after having written said code :D
DarkMorford: Some microphones need a DC bias voltage in order to work correctly (or at all). I'm not sure if that applies to speakers as well.
froggomb: honky dorie. A white, middle class forgetful fish
emonotony: Soldering is much like coding, but instead of alcoholism you get solder burns and the "???" is a chunk of melted metal instead of compiler output.
DoodlestheGreat: We were all young once, Ian.
emonotony: I mean since I was doing soldering I'm certain I was sober and I'm STILL asking "what on earth was I drinking?"
txzen_: electroboom cross over :)
DiscordianTokkan: Oh no
Electrodyne: I really appreciate the makers of this show, for making continuity so important
emonotony: Electrodyne YELLOW CARD
txzen_: is that the theramin?
DoodlestheGreat: If Ian gets this to work, will he be taking requests? I'd like to hear the theme from "The Outer Limits."
Electrodyne: lrrIAN_SG
Catastrophil: Boys, we got the bad number
emonotony: Numbers that shouldn't be, and other delightful discoveries.
emonotony: I'd tell Ian to roll sanity but eh that's a bit of a foregone conclusion.
DigitalSeahorse: sergeOffByOne
emonotony: No that's off by a lot more
DigitalSeahorse: benginChaos
emonotony: "It has no skin but it looks nice otherwise." - Matt, probably
DiscordianTokkan: Sometimes I feel bad that the last thing I soldered was a 1mF capacitor bank for an elecromagnetic coilgun that shot nails for a university project. Then I realize, I can't top that ANYWAYS.
TheMoatman: The last thing I soldered were a shitton of splices for a robot's power wire
TheMoatman: I had to do a lot because I kept forgetting the heat shrink
DarkMorford: Ian, what make/model theremin is that? I'm a little curious if the schematic's online and we could "Keep Talking and Nobody XXs" this. Kappa
txzen_: lrrFINE
TheMoatman: Or forgot to put the power switch back into its hole correctly
emonotony: DarkMorford "keep talking and nobody theremins"?
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TheMoatman: Or forgot the nut to hold the switch in place
korvys: Oh, I didn't know Jaycar was an international thing
TheMoatman: All of these happened at least three times across four separate robots.
DiscordianTokkan: @TheMoatman All of that makes me remember WHY it was the last thing I soldered, lol
TheMoatman: I'm *very* good at splicing wires now
MrMajorChris: cool, i used a theremin for the first time last Friday
Catastrophil: I built a pseudo-theremin once using a Kinect and some 3d modelling software, that was pretty cool
j0xer: shouldn't the color of the band tell you how 'close' the resistor should be bronze/silver/gold?
DigitalSeahorse: When was Jer Petter visit again?
DigitalSeahorse: Will*
DigitalSeahorse: will*
LoadingReadyRun: @DigitalSeahorse There was a mail delivery delay, so no Jer tonight.
malc: Jer is stuck in the post office
MrMajorChris: just mail jer to the moonbase
BishopSansPants: Stuck in customs getting.
GoblinRanger: Odd that you need to get Jer mailed to you, probably should get a different shipper for him next time
DigitalSeahorse: Ah, I sea ty benginFlood benginLol
BishopSansPants: *getting a thorough assessment.
cuttlefishman: Hi chat, have we done anything dangerous yet?
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offbeatwitch: it's 12V, it's fine
offbeatwitch: i've probably touched live 12V terminals
malc: we got out of bed; that's pretty risky
Dragonality: Danger adjacent?
cuttlefishman: Matt, have you done anything dangerous today
cuttlefishman: Are you living on the edge
DigitalSeahorse: Never choose UPS for Jer or any other Canadian shipments feliciaToronto elfunkHeart elfunkCat
DiscordianTokkan: Seeing footage of yourself is 50 times worse than hearing yourself on a podcast. I've gotten used to the latter, and starting to work out more to help with the former
malc: even if they claim to be the Universal Petter Service
DigitalSeahorse: Canadians are to be handled with far more care
DigitalSeahorse: :p
Arclight_Dynamo: I'm a little disappointed this theramin has ICs. Analog or bust! Kappa
AniGeek5150: I’m just waiting for it to say futile Kappa
chicagopolitics: i feel like this camera angle needs to be rotated 180 to get the proper experience
DigitalSeahorse: malc pegaLul
nucleosynth: does measuring resistance while the resistors are still in-circuit actually work? isn't there, from the perspective of the multimeter probes, effectively the rest of the circuit in parallel with the resistor you're testing?
Electrodyne: Not futile, every one of these has read ohms, ohms in the raaaaaaaange
erloas: @nucleosynth yeah, measuring in-circuit is really tricky
malc: given you're measuring these in-circuit, it's possible you're getting the resistance of a bunch of things in parallel
IsThis___Art: Past Self: not even once
erloas: could easily have parallel paths adjusting the resistance
cuttlefishman: What do you think of when you had hair on your head
nucleosynth: i'd especially expect that to happen on the high-resistance cases -- like when the 270Kohm resistor was way off, well, that error effect is going to be amplified
Electrodyne: Small shocks are a hazard we put up with. Like they say: live electric, dielectric.
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DiscordianTokkan: @Electrodyne *claps*
malc: electrodyne: boo
erloas: @LoadingReadyRun you're measuring in circuit, you are probably not getting real readings of the resistors, but the resistance of the circuit as built
j0xer: i mean i would just go by what's on the bands vs trying to measure them
AniGeek5150: Is it just an old project board? Could that be why some of it is low?
DigitalSeahorse: I've cringed while being recorded before, mostly when not having had enough time to practice well, which made the cringing in post even worse
PinkfloydYES: hello llr
Arclight_Dynamo: If they're within an order of magnitude, Ian is happy, here.
erloas: give us the colors, we can translate the codes really easily
PinkfloydYES: hi archlight
MrMajorChris: hey, does Chef Ian have any food plans for ttsf?
DigitalSeahorse: that one worst video I consented for the recorder to only burn or record over it :P
MrMajorChris: for the holidays?
AniGeek5150: Ian have you built a reflow oven on the show before?
DigitalSeahorse: with fire*
Despoiler98: No Gunpla making?
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seantheman2: @LoadingReadyRun hey Ian how are you tonight?
BishopSansPants: Wait, are we playing Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes?
DiscordianTokkan: If it's a day that doesn't end in Y, rotate the IC widdershins?
noSmokeFire: one of these days we'll do a TTSF/Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes crossover based around tech reading the instructions to Ian
DarkMorford: Dang, I'm not finding a schematic or manual for this thing at all.
noSmokeFire: and by "we" I mean "definitely not me"
Lord_Hosk: IC2 is next to ICP and the Faygo
Bobtheninjagoldfish: @Despoiler98 I think that the Gunpla will be later.. from what was being said.
6thotslayer9: what is going on
BodaciousNia: what about the MCP?
DarkMorford: But generally speaking, "normal" hobby-grade resistors have a 5% tolerance rating, so as long as it's close you're good.
LoadingReadyRun: Tonight on TTSF: Potential for Explosion is Unrelated to Talking
DigitalSeahorse: what are their pronouns?
seantheman2: @noSmokeFire that would be interesting
AniGeek5150: Ok brb ina few
DigitalSeahorse: we should ask their pronouns if they aren't to be misgendered
Arclight_Dynamo: Right. Time to desolder everything and test every component in isolation.
Arclight_Dynamo: Because we all know that's where this is going. Just rip off the bandaid.
DarkMorford: @LoadingReadyRun Didn't quite hear if this was the question or not, but for IC pin numbering, if the notch is on the north end of the chip, pin 1 would be in the northwest corner (left of the notch) and then going counter-clockwise. So the highest numbered pin will be the northeast corner.
DigitalSeahorse: lrrHEART_SG
DigitalSeahorse: lrrHEART_SG lrrCIRCLE_SG lrrHEART_SG
Vaygrim: vaygriLurk
erloas: there was a diagram of the pins on the sheet he found after asking
DigitalSeahorse: ssandLURK_TK
DarkMorford: Ah, cool.
KitTheThird: Shoot, a guy could have a pretty good weekend at IEEE-Con with all that stuff
DigitalSeahorse: feliciaRage elfunkCat suddenly I realized I have the other half of the meme
offbeatwitch: HANS BOTTOM
SquareDotCube: Sounds like a bunch of eggheads
malc: wooooow
offbeatwitch: guess what? chicken butt
TheMoatman: My legs still hurt from horse stancing last night. I didn't even do that much
DigitalSeahorse: lrrCHKN benginButt sergeIrene pegaBooty katesChicken jamiePants
erloas: @TheMoatman how many did you do? I matched two with the game but didn't do any more
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DigitalSeahorse: hmm I think I need a good stiff drink....of water
DigitalSeahorse: !hydrate
OmensCall: Is there an additional load on the circuit drawing voltage?
Lord_Hosk: Ahhh ha! there ARE 4 lights!
seantheman2: yeah I'll need some water soon actually
noSmokeFire: "macro version" well now I want Ian to make a 10x scale project
offbeatwitch: "why is my powerline adapter just yeeting packets into the void" - me, yesterday
erloas: there is a good chance that if it didn't burn anything up then there is probably not any bridges
TheMoatman: @erloas I didn't do any for the full time Ian was doing them in-game, but maybe a minute or two across the stream
malc: <quack>
TheMoatman: Maybe closer to three or four. I dunno
ZeroArcana: sergeSqueak lrrHORN
DiscordianTokkan: !y
erloas: ah, I did two for the full length of the minigame, one was the one he failed when he stopped paying attention
offbeatwitch: goose.mp3
Alness49: Untitled Theremin Device
LoadingReadyRun: I don't know, this theramin seems kinda biased
DaSunao: lrrWOW
malc: I see two bees
Biko_the_wolf: LUL
Mysticman89: it says theremin repair, so was this confirmed to be working at some point, or was it possibly defecctive from the get go?
LoadingReadyRun: theremin troubleshooting is probably more acurate
Electrodyne: People who make electronic puns are a bunch of outcasts and mosfits.
LoadingReadyRun: I suspect Twitch chat has a great capacitance for electronics puns
erloas: who are you calling a mosfet?
Violentfrog: What do you call an IC that puts out fires?
Violentfrog: A Bucket Brigade
Lord_Hosk: So you lack the capacity to check the capacitors?
DigitalSeahorse: lol
erloas: caps are pretty hard to test, but the seldom fail in ways you can't tell
Biko_the_wolf: short to ground?
DigitalSeahorse: the capacitors lack the capacity to check themselves
malc: usually capacitors fail by turning into confetti cannons
DigitalSeahorse: don't resist checking the resisters
Violentfrog: it's called magic smoke
erloas: that's just a noise suppressing cap, they're just going to ground
Arclight_Dynamo: My cat is utterly fascinated watching this for some reason. :D
mtvcdm: Evening
mtvcdm: I have survived the Thanksgiving Retail Stampede.
DiscordianTokkan: @mtvcdm Welcome back!
erloas: yeah, different values to get rid of different frequencies
Electrodyne: Definitely don't want any weird hums in the theremin
Lord_Hosk: It sounds like there is a failure to communitcate
TheMoatman: Some oscillators, you just can't reach
noSmokeFire: nossilator
erloas: you could check a frequency, most multimeters will give you frequency
Arclight_Dynamo: Get this man an oscilloscope!
TheMoatman: Oh for fuck's sake
TheMoatman: This hotel room is cursed
erloas: I think all power adapters have the polarity marking on them
TheMoatman: Part of a cabinet (well, not a cabinet, one of those covers that looks like a cabinet but is just a plank held in place to fill a hole that *might* have been a cabinet in another installation) fell off after I touched it. It turns out that all but one of its retaining clips were utterly destroyed, and the surviving clip had pulled its screws through
TheMoatman: There weren't any sheets for the couch bed
erloas: well you're going to have a common ground on the board, so the other side has to not be ground
TheMoatman: And now the door doesn't lock. The deadbolt is too low for the strike place
TheMoatman: Ooh, another one! The electrical socket that my laptop is plugged into started pulling out of the wall when I tugged on the cord
malc: that is a Nein Volt battery
TheMoatman: The junction box is not connected to anything
TheMoatman: Other than the wiring
draco_301: Ian flying solo?
Electrodyne: @themoatman You're clearly in a Hollywood mock-up of a hotel room.
Diomedes_Industries: What if that hand didn't have a body. It was just a hand. And a mouth....
DiscordianTokkan: I mean, there's the Adam's Family Reboot coming anyways
Nigouki: there was a newer TV show on YTV too?
Alness49: Its Clobbering Time! Wait...
Nigouki: wait was YTV all of Canada or just Ontario?
LoadingReadyRun: all canada, I believe
TheMoatman: Speaking of YTV, has anyone here seen My Life Me
Rockario: @Nigouki It's national, yeah
DarkMorford: Though clearly Ian is referencing Alton Brown's assistant, Thing.
DiscordianTokkan: I wonder how PJ Fresh Phil is doing, these days.
Orgmastron: Morticia is life goals and/or wife goals
WarKr0: wheelerMuldcb howdy
TheMoatman: It's Canime
Arclight_Dynamo: I find it fascinating that the Addam's Family began as New Yorker cartoons from the 30s.
erloas: if you reverse polarity it could blow stuff up, though not as likely with 9v
malc: but what if you break the honk?!
Himyul: rotate the cushions!
DarkMorford plays Numberwang
SajuukSjet: bounce the graviton particle beam, off the main the deflector dish....
orbitaltuna: is this the frying part of the show?
Rockario: Inverting the polarity is basically another way of saying "throw it into reverse" or "Try putting it in upside down"
Vaygrim: Get ready to release the magic smoke!
Himyul: re-reverse the polarity!
Vaygrim: de-verse the polarity?
korvys: verse the polarity?
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Electrodyne: A ruptured capacitor on this board from Hans Bottom & Associates. Or as we say on the street, "Bust a cap in yo ass"
draco_301: leave the polarity alone
orbitaltuna: USB-S
Lord_Hosk: Did the enterprise D have two warp cores? I know VOyager did
Nigouki: installing things in reverse is a thing that has happened multiple times in actual aerospace
orbitaltuna: s is for SPACE
Arclight_Dynamo: I bet there is *one* parallel port somewhere on the Enterprise...
Nigouki: there's a famous Proton launch that's available in glorious HD where the rocket starts going all wibbly-wobbly
Alness49: I'm reversing the polarity. You're reversing it back. We're confusing the polarity
delta__vee: you will not go to space today; you forgot to bring the correct dongles
piebooza: I hate how interesting this is
ANeMzero: I always loved when someone in star trek is like "you need to look at this" and hands someone TWO PADDs, because apparently they couldn't put both the documents on one
Arclight_Dynamo: @Nigouki It super blew up the Polybius.
DigitalSeahorse: ysbrydBus ysbrydBus ysbrydBus ysbrydBus ysbrydBus ysbrydBus using this emote while I still can! :O
WarKr0: why cant you solder while plugged in?
DigitalSeahorse: it will be gone at month end
coolbond: Good Evening Ian Horner
orbitaltuna: what if dr. soong stuck a bunch of legacy ports in data just for kicks?
Simonark: Captain's Yacht
DigitalSeahorse: (other ones staying)
teavian: Jeff bridges
DiscordianTokkan: One in the Back, for Dancing
draco_301: does anyone actually plug anything in in star trek
malc: Three Bridges? that's a town in England
orbitaltuna: he is "fully functional" afterall
Kazman20a: an Admrils bridge maybe?
Arclight_Dynamo: The thing in the centre of the saucer was the captain's yacht, I thought.
coolbond: your gonna be my background noise while i grind out Gmax Gengars because god damned he is hard to catch
SquareDotCube: *sips cocktail* ..Engage
DarkMorford: I thought everything on the Enterprise just charged over Qi. Did you ever see them plug anything in?
Himyul: re-re-reverse the polarity!
malc: lol
Himyul: spin that polarity right round!
DiscordianTokkan: Hahaha
malc: now another chance for magic smoke!
Simonark: I like to think that Picard didn't play poker because he was a Bridge player and that.. Jack Crusher had been the only good bridge player in Starfleet.
Rockario: It wasn't originally htere, but Gainan was so popular they retrofitted some of the bar tables to reduce needless back and forth
draco_301: baby right round
erloas: any bets on a cap blowing up when he reverses the polarity?
orbitaltuna: no one: .... polarity: you spin me right round
TacitusVigil: I'm not sure if the Enterprise-D had an Auxiliary Control alongside the Battle Bridge
Vaygrim: refund the polarity!
malc: just plug it into AC and reverse it 50 times a second
Eyclonus: This is like one of the whole 5 theremins outside of the soviet union
Mysticman89: that is essentially the heisenburg uncertaintainty principle yes
draco_301: why would one want a theremin exactly?
emallson: why wouldn't one want a theremin?
Juliamon: draco_301 because it's a cool, unusual instrument?
Nigouki: what happens when you install an angular velocity sensor backwards:
orbitaltuna: i think ian's secretly building a brushless motor with all this polarity reversing
Eyclonus: Lenin loved the Theremin so much he wanted it to be the national instrument of the USSR
draco_301: good ol lenin
Electrodyne: This show is now full of continuity errors
GrittyGramps: homey
Electrodyne: With the polarity reversed, is a diode doing its job?
Electrodyne: lrrIAN_SG
draco_301: nailed it
Brozard: Reversing the polarity *explains* the polarity
Nigouki: learning by doing is FUN
Eyclonus: @draco_301 *Soldered it
Himyul: It was me, Diode, all along!
TheMoatman: Work?
TheMoatman: On the other hand, this theremin does not do the work
Simonark: Has the friendship been a forgery all along?
Dragonality: The real Theramin was the friends we made along the way
Violentfrog: I guess you didn't socket your diodes, eh?
emallson: "the main thing we forge on this show, is *friendship*" > ian takes a drink
DaSunao: I thought we forged passports and identifiction. Wrong I guess.
Electrodyne: You can tell the direction of the diode by tasting it.
Juliamon: !tiltyquote
LRRbot: "You're gonna be subjected to some goddamn puns." — Jacob (via tiltyhouse)
Ukon_vasara: you're punder arrest mpiePolice
RavingPenguin: Handy!
RavingPenguin: LUL
erloas: Cousin IT, not so much
CaptainSpam: You're referencing Good Eats?
SSnakeAce: Gotta be Good Eats
aBoredBarista: good eats
emallson: lrrBEEJ
Morrigan9: thing has top tier APM
Simonark: I'm a Canadian who lives in the US, it's my personal tradition to try and ruin US Thanksgiving with puns.
draco_301: beej
TacitusVigil: I thought you were talking about John Adams' family.
CaptainSpam: Yaaaay! :-D
Athelgar: Alton Brown Good Eats?
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sjcTheos: get this beej a mic!
Spacecarl: I just made Alton Browns Brownies for my family today! they were great!
draco_301: that was adorable
Nigouki: the tiniest goose
DiscordianTokkan: !y
Himyul: more of a quack, if you ask me
ZeniteZero: I finally watched the latest Road Quest. That was crazy fun LUL
DarkMorford: AB is rad. Always enjoy watching him.
TheMoatman: 68 subs.
jubale1: theremin? oo-eeoo music
Simonark: The initial sound they used when composing the Doctor Who theme, not the finished version, was running a key along a piano wire.
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draco_301: is it supposed to "honk"?
Violentfrog: star trek was not a theremin. It was a vocalist
ZeroArcana: ₕₒₙₖ
jubale1: Good Vibrations i think had one
Electrodyne: Bingo
Juliamon: Good Vibrations also technically wasn't a theremin
draco_301: hi Matt, Paul, and other lrrmans
jubale1: hereamin, theremin, everywhere a min min
Violentfrog: I prefer the ondes martinot to the theremin (i.e. Jonny Greenwood's instrument)
LoadingReadyRun: I saw a great youtube video of Don't Worry be Happy played on a theremin
mortenw: what are you building ?
Juliamon: mortenw He's repairing a theremin
jubale1: trim pot is essential
mortenw: a what ? and what does that do ?
DarkMorford: Always make sure your pot is the right way. Kappa
LoadingReadyRun: Trimpot: The electrical engineering pokemon
Juliamon: It's an electronic musical instrument (the thing that makes "spooky" noises in soundtracks)
jubale1: it's a knob (or other shape) that varies electrical current in continuous fashion.
therisingtithes_: If I recall correctly, the theremin is what does the 'oooOOOoooo' in the Doctor Who theme song?
mortenw: ah, that's interesting
jubale1: think all the knobs and sliders on an amp
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Simonark: No, the final Doctor Who theme was oscillators and tape loops, musique concrete-style
Arclight_Dynamo: Bad join?
therisingtithes_: ahhhhhhh i see @Simonark
Violentfrog: apparently the original dr who theme was oscillators being manually adjusted to pitch.
Caffine1138: theremins are the "touchless" instrument right?
Juliamon: A lot of theremin-y sounds are actually misattributed to the theremin, it turns out
Juliamon: Caffine1138 yes
Violentfrog: no kidding. it's a wiki hole finding out what ISN'T theremin
Simonark: @therisingtithes_ Delia Derbyshire was basically a sound wizard.
TacitusVigil: Optimal Optimus?
planeswalkagogo: what about Optimal Optimus?
neko8ninja: sideswipe
LoadingReadyRun: so what famous songs *do* use a theremin?
DiscordianTokkan: I still laugh whenever I think about Rodimus Prime
planeswalkagogo: he can be a tank, a jet, king kong, AND a robot!
Violentfrog: would an audio probe be useful? It's useful for signal tracing when I build guitar pedals
Mysticman89: good vibrations?
mtg_fuzzy2wuzzy: Wat we doin
DiscordianTokkan: @LoadingReadyRun The original Star Trek music is the main one that springs to mind
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Simonark: Good Vibrations is technically a Tannerin, right?
jubale1: @DiscordianTokkan a person sings that tune
Violentfrog: good vibrations is the 'electro-theremin' a theremin soundalike
Violentfrog: but has a different control system
DigitalSeahorse: lrrAWW_BW
DigitalSeahorse: lol
Electrodyne: This is Tinker Tailor Solder Fry - why are there not 45 replies of "Wheeljack"???
Juliamon: It's not really a theremin because you DO touch it
Simonark: That's why most people call it a Tannerin!
Mysticman89: I look forward to our future electro computers.
Violentfrog: It's got it's own wiki page.
jubale1: muffin, you lost your color! aww
Rockario: Turns out the Theramin is actually an elaborate prank played on the public by synth musicians?
Juliamon: Please observe this list of not-theremins that often get mistaken for the theremin
teavian: lrrARROW_HF lrrCIRCLE lrrDOTS
Arclight_Dynamo: Marching band theremins!
Simonark: The musical score from The Day The Earth Stood Still, THAT'S a Theremin
BlackBlade_: lrrDOTS lrrCIRCLE lrrARROW
DigitalSeahorse: I pitty anyone's ears that they have to have their car woofer on so loud I can make out the lyrics over the base within my apt I don't know how far from their car
jubale1: i expect a sci-fi themed Hustle featuring this device
Simonark: The Star Trek theme doesn't involve a Theremin, but it IS a Russian Inwention.
Lord_Hosk: I played the theramin in my high school marching band, but I was kicked out after half of our first parade...
KingXicor: About 90% of problems I've troubleshot are the power supply.
Lord_Hosk: the extension cord put 13 people in the hospital.
Simonark: @Lord_Hosk You tried to stay in with excuses but everyone could just see they were hand-waving?
Electrodyne: I tried to play one, but it was so disappointing they renamed it the "There-Theremin".
jubale1: then there's the opposite instrument, a Heremax.
MotorCityGhost: lol
Lord_Hosk: Maybe you could have said that in 1997 Ian
mtvcdm: Come on, advice, soul read one time. Gimme this one LRRBot.
mtvcdm: !advice
LRRbot: No, the other way.
Simonark: Which other muses had a musical instrument? Erato's probably doesn't bear contemplation.
Electrodyne: oh my
Violentfrog: love the ondes martinot. It's got a sliding ring on a string along a keyboard for note reference, plus keyboard vibrato
Master_Gunner: Ah, apparently the only successful operator of the Terpsitone was Theremin's niece.
FoxFyr: My professor made a similar thing when I was working on my Bfa, it was basically a bunch of light sensors and contact microphones set to control voltage into a bunch of modular synth components, it was a fun time
teavian: I can manipulate mayonaise...
Electrodyne: Guys, we've been waiting our time. This is actually a PERCUSSION THEREMIN.
Simonark: So the Terpsitone was an invention with only one operator? Like Vermeer's painting device?
LoadingReadyRun: Electrodyne is that just hitting a theremin?
Electrodyne: yes, exactly!
Arclight_Dynamo: I've checked. This kit is out of stock, though they *do* sell later versions...
DarkMorford: Okay, yeah, the LM358 is probably going to be the audio amplifier for the theremin, and they're pretty common. Less than 50 cents a piece.
Simonark: To be fair, most people that sell theremins are used to a steady flow of complaints in some form.
myrddinthewizard: lrrIAN_SG
erloas: is there anything on the circuit that could be pulling that value down, rather than it not putting out the expected value?
Lord_Hosk: Failure in the system... Failure need assist... Failure in the system, Failue need assist... (Han blasts it)
DigitalSeahorse: lrrAWW_BW katesLewd lrrAWW_BW
DigitalSeahorse: ironic smirk
Simonark: Wait.. apparently the one TV theme that does have a theremin is Midsomer Murders?
erloas: I can't read the diagram that well from this monitor
DarkMorford: Wait, pin 12? Is this still on the LM358 or a different chip?
DigitalSeahorse: :O
DarkMorford: Oh, I see now. Those "+6V" markings aren't what you're supposed to see at that pin. That's saying it connects to the 6V power regulator.
KingXicor: So the signals you're looking at are the differential out the mixer. The are producing the audio and aren't going to be at 6V
Arclight_Dynamo: They're up to Mk. III, in fact.
orionsrise1: ahhhggg. forgot this was on today. What happened to Jer?
Juliamon: orionsrise1 Parts didn't arrive in time
KingXicor: You might be able to see some signal if you switch to AC on your meter.
orionsrise1: damn. Next time?
Juliamon: That's the hope
KingXicor: You need your oscilloscope! :)
LoadingReadyRun: orionsrise1 maybe not next time, but soon!
Juliamon: oof
Simonark: Aww, someone of huge importance in the history of comedy died. Jonathan Miller.
TheBorzoi: Oh no
malc: F
erloas: are you reading that 3v just off pin 12 or on one side or the other of that cap on the sides?
orionsrise1: yay
DarkMorford: Hm, okay. Pin 6 should be reading pretty close to 6V, if I'm reading this right. The output from that pin isn't being used for anything.
KingXicor: You should see 3Vdc at pin 5 of IC2.
KingXicor: (also pins 6/7)
erloas: that seems right, because I think you're only passing through the AC part of the signal, rather than DC so your meter won't show it
orionsrise1: ok, I'll have to catch the vod. Good luck Ian!
Blightfight: Hello, how goes the repairing of the woo-woo machine?
erloas: I'm trying to piece it together, been a while since those college courses so doesn't jump right now
KingXicor: Hmm. If IC2 is working properly, then the there should be no difference between the two inputs (5 and 6(
FrozenNitrogen: purchase all the pieces and rebuild it completely from scratch?
Caffine1138: yeah. ICs are super cheap. gods. Radio Shack was like a playground on a budget :D
KingXicor: it's an opamp. It's acting as a buffer for the audio
DarkMorford: I'd need to read the datasheet more closely to be sure, but I *think* pin 12 should be at least 2 VDC higher than pin 8 or 10. But now that we've found the schematic I can dig into it some more.
Caffine1138: Same in the US :(
Despoiler98: !next
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TheMoatman: It's fully gone in the us
DB_Skulls: Do you want to check the other ic2 chip to be safe it works too?
TheMoatman: Also Circuit City died, too
TheMoatman: In the US
Arclight_Dynamo: @DarkMorford I think the placement diagram I posted has been altered/modded. Don't rely on it.
Morrigan9: last time i was in a radio shack i saw a 9 pin mouse
DoodlestheGreat: Fry's Electronics still has lots of parts.
Electrodyne: Time to glue macaroni to construction paper in the shape of a goose.
TheMoatman: All we really have are Microcenter and Fry's
Arclight_Dynamo: @DarkMorford The circuit diagram is clean.
DarkMorford: I'll shoot you an email once I've had a chance to look this over a bit, Ian.
TacitusVigil: It's a naval term
SquareDotCube: Canada is really just an archivist of dead companies, isn't it?
korvys: Radio Hovel
TheMoatman: And there aren't *that* many of either of those
holir_: Start in 20s or 30s I think
Plasterboard: Radio Hovel doesn't have the same ring
Caffine1138: Any EOD tech. although we got odd looks with all the maniacal laughter
TacitusVigil: The radio shack was the place on a ship that had the radio.
korvys: Radio Shanty
coelopteryx: radio lean-to
DigitalSeahorse: elfunkCat belly button is also a naval term
Rockario: Honestly, I wouldn't trust hobby electronics that didn't come from a person in a shack or garden shed
Blightfight: I don't think there's a chain electronics supply shop anymore.
TheMerricat: "They chose the name Radio Shack, which was the term for a small, wooden structure that housed a ship's radio equipment."
Blightfight: At least in the US.
SquareDotCube: email the eggheads at Hensbottom
korvys: Radio Bivouac
RealGamerCow: There's an electronics place outside of Boston callled "You Do It Electronics" which is about 10 times the size of a radio shack, but almost only component parts. I have no idea how they have stayed around for 50+ yers
DigitalSeahorse: jamiePants pegaBooty aww butts Ben's butt is gone too lrrAWW_BW
Blightfight: That sounds like a real neat place, RealGamerCow.
TheMoatman: @Blightfight Fry's and Micro Center are both chains but neither is nationwide
Electrodyne: Or just order from Mouser
Greggleswong: is jaycar's website broken for anyone else?
DoodlestheGreat: @realgamercow, these days, probably by running a website.
DoodlestheGreat: Mouser or Digikey.
TheMerricat: And I'm not sure MIcroCenter sells electrical components as much as computer parts.
RealGamerCow: @DoodlestheGreat every time I go by, it's very busy in the parking lot
DigitalSeahorse: we'll have a parts party! PrideLionYay kristikHonk
TheMoatman: Mine has at least a couple of racks of caps and such
Caffine1138: If an IED can't kill a Gameboy (at least a BGB) I don't think you guys will
TheMoatman: and an entire wall of soldering gear
Juliamon: GBCs are still from the Nintendium era.
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TheMoatman: It's a small wall, but a wall
TacitusVigil: Next time on TTSF: The long awaited LoadingReadyRailGun Kappa
coelopteryx: matt provided emotional support
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erloas: so you could bypass the volume part of the circuit easy and reduce the complexity of the troubleshooting
DigitalSeahorse: katesThank ysbrydBus ysbrydBus ysbrydBus ysbrydBus one of bus ONE OF BUS
DiscordianTokkan: Road Quest is so danged good
Caffine1138: I've been finding it Hilarious thus far
DoodlestheGreat: Oh yes, the latest episode was great.
safarijan: ShowLove100
Juliamon: (I would argue that it IS for everyone)
Juliamon: !rqmerch
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coelopteryx: road quest has cars!
Electrodyne: Team Saab lrrIAN_SG
DigitalSeahorse: shirts!
DigitalSeahorse: one is a mystery
TacitusVigil: I can't wait to see who's voted out of the car and left behind. Kappa
Blightfight: Road Quest has made driving seem a bit less scary, and motivated me to finally get my butt in gear and get my learner's permit.
DigitalSeahorse: the other is emoji
Blightfight: So, thanks for that, guys.
TacitusVigil: RoadQuest confirms time travel
coelopteryx: F u t u r e M e m e s
malc: Schrödquest
Caffine1138: At least you guys had someone to talk to. I did Anchorage to Seattle by myself
TheMoatman: Better than merch you aren't selling to anyone
chaostreader: Video, or it didn’t happen.
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DigitalSeahorse: what's the wait on the DB pins that were available during DB and ordered?
Lord_Hosk: Should we use code "LRR Kingdom please" at check out for a kingdom of cards with our order?
Juliamon: DigitalSeahorse I wouldn't expect an estimate any time soon, considering the time of year
KodeMage: mystery boosters?
Blightfight: What is "Find me, you cowards!" from?
KodeMage: which series? Retail or Convention?
Plasterboard: They had better have a CHAOS LACE in that set, is all I'm saying.
Juliamon: Blightfight That's from the supporter behind-the-scenes videos.
DigitalSeahorse: Juliamon *nods* as I understand it was a mockup at the time of order also, so I expect the actual pin needed to be made also before it starts the post pipeline
KodeMage: one is B: you lose the game.
DiscordianTokkan: I'll be doing a podcast thing tomorrow, so I'll have to catch the VOD, but it looks so GOOOOOD
Caffine1138: scry->that
KodeMage: there is
TemporallyAwry: There is a combo - yeah.
KodeMage: mirror something?
DiscordianTokkan: One of the cards is a 1/1 flyer for U, where if it dies put a Flying counter on a creature you control. It's awesome
Blightfight: Isn't there a card that forces your opponents to cast a copy first?
Juliamon: Hey Shenhua!
KodeMage: that's it
Juliamon: (What is it, Ryo?)
KodeMage: mind something maybe?
1y1e: Hive mind
KodeMage: there ya go
TacitusVigil: If Ian doesn't end up driving a forklift during RoadQuest, I'm going to be disappointed. Kappa
Caffine1138: Thats a Bad Idea.
Electrodyne: Those darn thugs
TheMoatman: Now ryo's looking for sailo- uh, stonemasons
DoodlestheGreat: Stone mason hooligans!
Caffine1138: Dont screw with a stone mason. They lift heavy things and hammers for a living
DigitalSeahorse: "Wait but I'm a free mason!" - antifa video from the 50s or so era
DoodlestheGreat: ROAD QUEST FIRST!
KodeMage: does he die?
TheMoatman: Big things
KodeMage: again?
Juliamon: Serge is really feeling those barista battle scars
Juliamon: SPOILERS
TheMoatman: Again?
Nigouki: Ian "Scared of Swedish Jets" Horner Kappa
DigitalSeahorse: CAN'T CAN'T?
mtvcdm: !patreon
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KodeMage: 4th or 5th time according to the wiki
coelopteryx: it's like in pokemon, you black out when you don't win & get reset to the last mechanic you took the car to
DigitalSeahorse: :o Alex got a triple now!
DigitalSeahorse: !drainers
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mtvcdm: This now concludes another LRR broadcast day. On behalf of everyone at LRR, good night, and good morning.
Juliamon: dang, the KS is almost at 10k
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DigitalSeahorse: indeed!
TacitusVigil: Lego?! :O
TheMoatman: Or megablocks
TheMoatman: There will not be any megablocks
Scar_Red_Tiger: Lego as a parent? Or Graham's hobby?
safarijan: its safari jan lol
DigitalSeahorse: 10K Drainers hype! shigiHype lrrALEX_SG lrrHEART_SG
DigitalSeahorse: SOON
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mercano82: !NEXT
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