thegreatwyrdling: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Bonus Stream (James has been strong-armed into playing this game with Fugi, let's see how it goes. Game: Factorio) at Sat 01:00 PM PDT (16m from now).
SeiichiSin: I cannot help you there Amelie.
SeiichiSin: I only know Stephen King, so my recommendation is biased.
Metric_Furlong: I would suggest the one you haven't already read this year
TehAmelie: you'd think
TehAmelie: but it'll have to be The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet again
Arclight_Dynamo: Are we talking Becky Chambers in here?
TehAmelie: a little bit
Arclight_Dynamo: Nice nice.
TehAmelie: i read To Be Taught if Fortunate the other week, a lot harder sci-fi, pretty cool
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TheThromborax: hot sauce!
beowuuf: sergeHi
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TehAmelie: earth astronauts go around looking for planets with life, finding it all the time and working ten times harder than they have to to reduce the risk they pose to alien planets
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niccus: we will go faster... lrr factor 10
TehAmelie: lrrWHISTLE
Thatwasademo: someone said factorio?
TehAmelie: see cause it's a factory, so the signal eh never mind
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j0xer: cool game excited for this stream
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lirazel64: Hey, happy Saturday!
jamesk902: Factorio Hype!
Phosphatide: factorio fun is a cool board game 4Head
Fairgrim: The factory must grow!
innovativemethods: oh sweet, dynamic control flow optimization with the lrrsmans!
LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> This past week saw the official release of Factorio, a game that folks have been suggesting James play for years. Well fine, lets do this thing. Bonus Serge and Fugi for extra value. | http://twitch.tv/loadingreadyrun || https://www.twitter.com/loadingreadyrun/status/1294725526829973504
Dergib: more James? yes please
Snowcookies: this is basically the industrial revolution, right?
Thatwasademo: well yes, but in space
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Radjack: Factorio? Amazing, love this game!
TehAmelie: i want a game where you are the industrial revolution
Pteraspidomorphi: People have been trying to get me to play this game for years. I always told them "it's in early access, I'll wait until it's out." Well...
Fairgrim: you can never have too many robots!
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cadesguy: dieselpunk time
DailyArch: ohhhh here we go
niccus: that's probably better served by Rise of Industry
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SmithKurosaki: Get to watch 2 automation streams on the same day. Nice
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Quillpaw: oh sweet, i made it in time!
Thatwasademo: Factorio was excellent the entire time it was in early access and I think v1.0 is even better
Radjack: @Pteraspidomorphi : This game as been stable af for as long as I've been playing it (since 0.13)
lirazel64: I am... somewhat uncomfortable with the Mechanization of Everything, but wth.
InquisitorGaia: oh nice, im right on time
Anaerin: Mine O'Clock's 2D demake is finally live!
Thatwasademo: heh
Dergib: what exactly is factorio?
TXC2: lets find out
ExachixKitsune: Dergib : It's a top-down automation game
Thatwasademo: a game about building a factory to build a bigger factory -- you'll see as James introduces it
SergeYager: everyone asks what is factorio, but no one asks HOW is factorio <crying emoji>
cadesguy: all the automation stuff from minecraft mods, but the whole game
TXC2: Hello Serge
ExachixKitsune: pff serge
niccus: factorio doesn't really feel, it's just trying to grow
TXC2: Here we GO!
kerbalized_: I just got factorio I'm so excited
BusTed: slytqShrug
Snowcookies: Hi Serge
TheAinMAP: lrrDOTS lrrCIRCLE lrrARROW
chrono2x: @SergeYager So they got you in on this too?
TehAmelie: so like Cookie Clicker but with more steps eh
Thatwasademo: lrrDOTS lrrCIRCLE lrrARROW
Dergib: so it's like a 4e game?
Fairgrim: also trains are evil cause I have died too many times with them
TehAmelie: ahoy
TXC2: Hello James
Radjack: @Anaerin : While inspired by modded minecraft, Factorio is great in its own right :P
Anaerin: Thatwasademo: No Factorio recursion here.
chrono2x: yep
odhtate: Afternoon James, Afternoon Chat
TheAinMAP: Hello.
SergeYager: I was recruited in the 11th hour
NimrodXIV: yes
Roland_Malius: si
TwitchTVsFrank: yes
Zaghrog: We did
ExachixKitsune: Heard intro music
BITs19_: si
Radjack: Yes
monkeyrama: We heard
kusinohki: @SergeYager Where is factorio?
helgridr: lrrDOTS lrrCIRCLE lrrARROW
JakeKamas: Yes we heard the music
SeiichiSin: We heard the intro.
Dergib: yes
TXC2: it was game music
Holmeslice_: It was really cool
PaperDoopliss: Music is one word
mercano82: @sergeyager I'll do you one better: WHO is Factorio?
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MagnusCarter: Yay Factories!
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innovativemethods: I did!
InquisitorGaia: didnt hear it
SergeYager: Also, I just really like playing games with buds
BrowneePoints: we heard it. we also hear you. REALLY LOUD
AWells44: jlrrCooltunes
LathosTiran: glorious beej was enjoyed
Snowcookies: yes
ShaneLeeAtk: Yes
TheNerdWonder: We did! It was great!
DiscordianTokkan: Blue screen no music,. Yes sound on the Bonus Stream intro
Laurence72: just eerie windy sounds for me
TheThromborax: into music heard and good
SeiichiSin: Hello Serge!
Snowcookies: Intro music happened
PeggsterNO: finally final wow, havent played for a few months
ExachixKitsune: Are you at least able to be headphone-free for this stream SergeYager ?
SergeYager: AND SERGE :D
Phosphatide: hey @sergeyager just wanna say i’m only kind of sorry for last night seabatUseless
TheThromborax: I heard the boop pa doops
Snowcookies: Mine O'Clock, but they replaced Uno with Fugi
RayFK: WHICH IS THE CORRECT DECISION
RayFK: WHICH IS THE WRONG DECISION
SergeYager: kitsune, if i'm in discord i wear headphones
TheThromborax: boo valorant
ExachixKitsune: Ahhh you were so close to being free of the curse
TheThromborax: yay not valorant
TXC2: RayFK it's a decision, that's enough Kappa
TotallyNotaBeholder: @RayFK I believe the decision that doesn't include you is the wrong one, but now I'm just brown nosing
frnknstn: I see a wreck... was Fugi driving?
TheWooglie: ooh tiny SergeYager and fugi
TheNerdWonder: So, how long until James is eaten by aliens?
RebelliousUno: after 10000 years
BITs19_: 8 years
jamesk902: So it was a coincidence, that's so funny.
niccus: so we're starting cold on pyanodon modset right
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: worth the wait though
RebelliousUno: factorio is good game bront
SeiichiSin: Factorio has been constantly being worked on all that time too. Which is great.
Anaerin: And/or Satisfactory.
innovativemethods: satisfactory has no random mode and that makes me sad
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Radjack: @niccus : Holy crud no xD
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: i have 900+ hours in this game
BITs19_: yesterday
LathosTiran: and it still has a refinement roadmap
TehAmelie: a game entirely about making Minecraft farms, how did you resist so long James?
sivakrytos: literally yesterday
The_Flying_Bun: They are still working on new updates
The_Flying_Bun: also SPIDERTRON
TXC2: Hello TrickJarrett
Dergib: is this only on PC?
Loonatic93: Factorio got released this week? I've been playing it for years?????? If it just got released, what was I player?
TheWooglie: the devs heard you were going to stream it
innovativemethods: you could have said you did, though, and we'd be none the wiser!
an_asp: Satisfactory is a weirdly totally different gameplay to factorio despite being the same thing in principle
SergeYager: AND SERGE (did we play the video that has me in it now?)
TrickJarrett: @TXC2 hey buddy
RebelliousUno: it was early access for ages
drfox17: what's up
SergeYager: hi trick :D
TXC2: hi RebelliousUno
Anaerin: SergeYager It was the "Bonus Stream" intro, not Mine O'Clock.
HoneyJack07: Serge make sure to check the brightness on the monitor
RebelliousUno: factorio and satisfactory are similar but different
ninja_theory_ashrams: this bonus stream is interrupting my viewing of past stream highlights
SmithKurosaki: hi again Serge
Loonatic93: I was playing early access since 2012-13? I'm kinda shocked it didn't realize it!
TrickJarrett: @SergeYager Hey friend, miss you folks, eagerly excited the next time I can get a hug :)
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Garfy400: Half a century!
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TotallyNotaBeholder: Hey you guysssss
ExachixKitsune: What name does Fugi like to go by?
wildpeaks: a man of mystery
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TheThromborax: you've been talking so long he is already in the mid-game just off screen
RebelliousUno: Dr Automation was his father
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corefluxx: Here we go again! 4 months and counting!
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Welbog: Can't watch now, but wanted to shout out Factorio, one of my favourites! I hope you enjoy it, James!
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innovativemethods: Doc Aut?!
RebelliousUno: when did you download it
wildpeaks: oh yeah, doing the tutorial would have helped
an_asp: I think the fact that Satisfactory has infinite resource nodes with heavy bottlenecks on _rate_ makes it feel very different, not to mention the exploration. I think Factorio could use the alternate recipes from Satisfactory, that's it's best feature.
Solid_Fuel: always hug the biters
frnknstn: always bite the huggers
wildpeaks: yeah taht's a fair comparaison
The_Flying_Bun: It's Modded Minecraft smushed flat
Fairgrim: with a lot of pollution it becomes billions
BusTed: 0/10
RebelliousUno: bah I can't believe.its release
cadesguy: game ruined
wildpeaks: literally unplayable
RebelliousUno: with that lighting bug
TXC2: #BlameTheMoon
innovativemethods: the lighting is *fast*, who cares if it's right?
TehAmelie: come on, we know the moon isn't real
Solid_Fuel: do you think you are on earth james :)
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: RTX on?
Snowcookies: lighting, everyone's worst enemy
jamesk902: Goddamn it moon!
TehAmelie: #antisun
The_Flying_Bun: 1.1 is already in the works
frnknstn: So much for version 1
rrtycoon2: Ah, it went gold?
noSmokeFire: the moon somehow casting a shadow while casting less light than your flashlight
NotCainNorAbel: This from a guy that plays loves a game that has square blocks and circle shadows
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misspokeycat: Awesome to see James playing this; very Buildcraft/IC2 vibes. You'll love it :)
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ninja_theory_ashrams: can a mod add "blame the moon" to the !advice command?
RebelliousUno: there are fun parts to being a software programmer???
TXC2: there are fun parts to programming?
Loonatic93: This is Colonial Simulator. You invade a foreign land, exploit it's natural resources, general massive pollution, and then commit genocide on the natives when they get angry at you for destroying their lands!
innovativemethods: yes.
aerohydra: drift compatable
ExachixKitsune: Yeah Uno/TXC2 : Finishing for the day and going home
Radjack: Surprisingly yes, there are fun parts to being a programer.
an_asp: Factorio is made by people with a severe love of optimization, judging from their devlogs.
Snowcookies: some ppl do programming as a hobby
TXC2: ExachixKitsune ah yes of course
RayFK: James get out
wildpeaks: it's satisfactorio
LordChrusher: cheer100
RayFK: I'm so fucking mad
TrickJarrett: I code as a hobby
an_asp: Optimizing the heck out of the game's code
ExachixKitsune: but for real programming is fun
RebelliousUno: satisfactory can be described as 3D First person factorio
SquareDotCube: Factorio has less terrain than Satisfactory. and imo the spectacle the territory kind of gets in the way a bit too much
Loonatic93: That's the chat's job!
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RebelliousUno: satisfactory expanded on the exploration
Nigouki: Fugi is here to watch you doing it wrong and suffer
SquareDotCube: *spectacle of Satisfactory's terrain
SeiichiSin: Also, I do have to ask... Who let Serge drive the ship? I noticed it crashed.
Ivalenz_: Can James fall in this game?
Thatwasademo: those 8 years of development time really show in how smoothly the game runs even in massive worlds with a lot of active machines
an_asp: The crashed ship is new, that's neat
innovativemethods: I kind of wish Satisfactory just had a random mode, with none of the terrain and intentionally awkward stuff
kusinohki: never give me money serge!
Arclight_Dynamo: The perogie problem.
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cardinalwiggles: This is one of my all time favourite games!!! Also many months!!
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chrono2x: hahahaha
Snowcookies: lol
Alma_v: IT WORKED? :D
ExachixKitsune: RebelliousUno : For someone starting into this genre - would you reccomend Satisfactory or Factorio?
ani_laurel: well, they did their market research
Lord_ZYRK: I was hoping the email would just say "Hey you should play me :) "
Thatwasademo: ha, wube literally gave serge a copy?
Dergib: they watch the streams
SmithKurosaki: that's neat
Solid_Fuel: yes
RebelliousUno: Ex, it depends what you're after
AtomicAlchemical: They've got your number, Serge katesLol
RayFK: James
RayFK: 2020
RebelliousUno: The systems in factorio are more defined
RayFK: It already fucking is
bl1ghtn1n6: "the beginning"
an_asp: Factorio is complete, but Satisfactory is still in beta and doesn't have a full game yet, if that influences anyone's choice
Ferisar: factorio'clock?
RebelliousUno: but satisfactory looks great
cardinalwiggles: Serge is now factorio main
Loonatic93: I think Factorio is a bit more Complex than Satisfactory.
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Snowcookies: replace Mine O'Clock lrrBEEJ
TehAmelie: Fun Factory?
ninja_theory_ashrams: What if in the future, games choose their players?
robert97dj: jlrrPunch
Unpronounceable: Factori O'Clock
chrono2x: Fun factory is very good
Radjack: Community Factorio Server when? :D
BusTed: Such fidelity.
Lord_ZYRK: Zoomies
Arclight_Dynamo: Loot the ship? I think that starts the tutorial?
RebelliousUno: Factorio probably has more of an endgame right now
divergentdave: There is a tutorial, but the first parts of it aren't compatible with multiplayer
niccus: you *need* this much zoom out
sivakrytos: you can't zoom out far enough
FinalShowFilms: Does James sound pitched up from normal to anyone else?
SmithKurosaki: what is this? a game for ants?
Thatwasademo: you can actually zoom out farther, but that's technically in the map view
innovativemethods: full zoomout aka "normal view"
Solid_Fuel: c
Zaghrog: Factorio having more of an endgame is to be expected, being in 1.0
jamesk902: Trust me, it's not as far out as you think.
Mister_BlueSky: "How do I shot gun?
BusTed: how i mine for fish
wildpeaks: I'm several hours in the game and I'm barely still in the first tutorials
ExachixKitsune: hmm fair enough, thanks Uno
SeiichiSin: Space only works if you have a target.
innovativemethods: you have to shoot *something*
Thatwasademo: spacebar shoots enemies only, I think it's ... c? to shoot anything?
jdb399: Fugi sounds so much like Nelly and wow I was confused for a moment lmao
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Solid_Fuel: middle click james
cadesguy: @thatwasademo c, yeah
RebelliousUno: ExachixKitsune this stream will likely give you a good comparison and grounding for the differences between the games
an_asp: Middle-click
Lord_ZYRK: You can't just shoot your gun into the sky while yelling "YEEEHAW"???????
SquareDotCube: read the tooltip
RebelliousUno: They're both really good
EchoTechKnight: kCenter mouse clicl
SeiichiSin: Middle mouse click?
divergentdave: middle click
jamesk902: Middle click removes it from hot bar.
kais58: middle click
Radjack: Middle Click
cadesguy: middle
niccus: hotbar is a shortcut, not a belt slot
an_asp: The fact that Satisfactory has infinite resources at slow rates makes it very different from Factorio, where you can just add more trains for more input. Satisfactory becomes a weird and fun dance of figuring out what you can make with a limited supply.
TehAmelie: E for Enventory
creasehearst: there are some recipes that cannot be crafted in the inventory
lawful_neutral_wizard: I only just noticed James' profile picture in the top left...
NovaTiempo: !updog
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creasehearst: but those are fairly midgame
TXC2: TehAmelie is that for storing envy? Kappa
Mister_BlueSky: seabatUseless
TehAmelie: shoot the tree?
NovaTiempo: woah, crashed ship!
Thatwasademo: in vanilla the main barrier to handcrafting is anything involving fluids
an_asp: I've been playing Factorio with the Space Exploration mod, which is everything I've ever wanted from a video game
Thatwasademo: you can't hold fluids on your character, as it turns out
TXC2: we have choped word, next get pig? Kappa
TXC2: *wood
RebelliousUno: next up crafting bench?
Solid_Fuel: trees spread over time if you don't
sivakrytos: you will not want the trees to grow back
LathosTiran: clear cut the forest
innovativemethods: but the spaceship has *space*
sivakrytos: trees are a real enemy of factorio
cadesguy: trees become "weeds" pretty soon...
an_asp: Space Exploration is a mod that lets you explore other planets for new exclusive resources further down the tech tree and build space stations and such, it's amazing and my favorite
FelidarSov: So what constitutes a chunk in this game?
TotallyNotaBeholder: Has he met these two?
silenceaux: Punch a Factorio challenge...
frnknstn: you can run your whole base on solar power later
niccus: there's sort of a chunk system too, but you can't dig it out
an_asp: There's a grid you can turn on that shows chunk boundaries
cardinalwiggles: from humble beginnings, does big factories grow. For the factory MUST GROW.
Veggiekeks: punch-a-coalfield in factorio? jlrrPunch
an_asp: It's what the fog of war is based on
AtomicAlchemical: This is James "Chunk Puncher" Turner you are speaking to
Thatwasademo: chunks are a thing in this game, you can see when the minimap expands it does so one chunk at a time
RebelliousUno: F
an_asp: Teach them to press Alt
Thatwasademo: (there's a building you can make fairly early called Radar that explores random unexplored chunks too)
SeiichiSin: Should teach them about the alt thing.
sivakrytos: yes press alt
NovaTiempo: toggle on lots of extra UI indicators with alt
creasehearst: if you hold the mouse cursor over the drill it shows an arrow on where it outputs the product
an_asp: Alt should be default it's the most important button
RebelliousUno: remember chat that they've literally (except Fugi) just started playing
Gnyrinn: I recommend that James presses the alt key
Thatwasademo: if you press the alt key you get some extra info, yeah
ExachixKitsune: I have faith in Fugi, I'm sure he will get there in time
Snowcookies: Chat, Fugi may or may not get to that
kais58: the arrow fugi is on about, only shows up if you press alt
kais58: oh, we're all saying it...
RebelliousUno: remember the journey is more important
Snowcookies: Don't worry too much about the learning
NovaTiempo: You consume all of an area's natural reasources and then move on.
an_asp: Yeah, having someone there who is familiar with the game means they won't miss anything obvious for hours
an_asp: This is a good format
NovaTiempo: You're Independence Day Aliens.
Stoffern: power
wildpeaks: kinda like They Are Billions
ExachixKitsune: I@M IN
josh___something: Woah
NovaTiempo: MUHAHAHA
TheWooglie: WTF?
Solid_Fuel: that is un modded :P
TheAinMAP: lrrWOW
innovativemethods: <3
josh___something: that's... a lot of items
an_asp: Unmodded tree so small
TXC2: so it's a Civilization game? Kappa
Ca_Putt: YAS finally LRR doing Factorio!
josh___something: @an_asp wait... THAT is smol?
beowuuf: did we accidentally start playing meglomania?
LathosTiran: the release gift, mech spider. its the everything tank
pygmytortle: Spidertron or bust
ujai321: that is not a goal for THISstream
NovaTiempo: it IS possible to speedrun in 4hrs
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: 50 hours?
TXC2: 4 days later.....
EarlGreyHot_: spidertron geyser?
innovativemethods: 5 hours?
jamesk902: Bring me pictures of Spidertron!
niccus: 4+ hours iirc
an_asp: I've been playing with the Space Exploration mod, which makes launching a rocket the start of the midgame instead of the win condition
EarlGreyHot_: @jamesk902 LOL
Laogeodritt: Hello, LRRfriends! I'm here for Factorio! =3 (And this stream is probably gonna be painful for me since I've been playing for years. XD )
TXC2: Hello Laogeodritt welcome
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an_asp: With respect to your question @josh___something
noSmokeFire: delicious red science
RebelliousUno: bottles of purest liquid science
TXC2: good old communist Red Science!
an_asp: Lots of big mods make the tech tree insane
Stoffern: and you need electric power for the lab
josh___something: woah
TehAmelie: red science, the science of fresh beets
MinniChii: manufacturing Science??
Anaerin: In your inventory.
hamishian: Communist Science!
NovaTiempo: think starship troopers
cadesguy: much pve
SoapyMarmoset: The more you pollute the more you need to shoot
Thatwasademo: (you'll also need some electricity, of course, since you can't fuel labs with coal)
Anaerin: You're making pollution.
TheWooglie: So Avatar?
TehAmelie: there ARE bad guys, dot dot dot
an_asp: Summon Captain Planet!
TXC2: you know, americans Kappa
hamishian: Too real
beowuuf: now serge and james see why people recommended it to them
niccus: PvE is technically optional under mapmaking settings, but the default will go through a lot of shoots
RobotInProgress: "dislikes" pollution... thats a funny way of looking at it
heroscaperguy: wait is that what it was that caused them to do that
PMAvers: James will find a way to accidentally die to them early.
heroscaperguy: i thought they just gradually swarmed
an_asp: Yeah it feels like they dislike pollution but they also consume pollution?
NovaTiempo: they obsolete in an hour tops
Thatwasademo: the drill won't break from use, but the tiles its on can run out of coal
ExachixKitsune: And it presumably becomes obsolete?
an_asp: But if they liked pollution they wouldn't beeline straight for your polluting areas
Darksteel_Mike: The resources under the drills will eventually run out though
innovativemethods: automate!
niccus: a lot of fuel-based things become obsolete, yeah
LathosTiran: alt mode uery usefull, it shows what factories are making
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jamesk902: It baffles me that Alt mode isn't on by default.
Thatwasademo: burner items use no fuel while they can't run for any reason, including blocked output, yeah
Thatwasademo: eh, the additional info view can be visually messy
wildpeaks: darn, that ALT trick would have been useful several hours ago x.x
misspokeycat: you can do some fun things with feeding a drill into another drill for infinite coal
Laogeodritt: Also: Ooh, first game for both for both of them is in multiplayer? Fun!
Thatwasademo: but yeah I agree it should be default on and toggleable off instead of default off and toggleable on
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BITs19_: serge is getting it yeeessss
EarlGreyHot_: we Require more minerals lol
cardinalwiggles: oh to literally be at the start of this game again <3
TXC2: SUB HYPE LETHAL
rrtycoon2: Was it mentioned that crafting status in is the lower left?
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cadesguy: its so pure
Thatwasademo: you can also get "small" amounts of stone from destroying stone obstacles, iirc
MagnusCarter: Also random rocks on the map give stone
an_asp: I'm happy that I took screenshots of my first base, so I can look at it for nostalgia
thmanwithnoname: is this vanilla, or do they have any mods?
TXC2: vanilla
aerohydra: vanilla
niccus: vanilla, base settings
Snowcookies: vanilla
josh___something: I have no idea what's happening, but I'm here for it
cardinalwiggles: @an_asp The Spaghetti
tsp397: this is a way better explanation than I've ever got of the game
cardinalwiggles: at least for me
innovativemethods: "you'll need a lot of coal [to begin with? for a while? yes.]"
NamesAreSilly: @an_asp as well as a bit of a reminder of what not to do? (I know that was the case for me at least)
misspokeycat: oh yeah, first bases are the best with this
cadesguy: pointing two coal burner drills at each other is fun
misspokeycat: your second playthrough you end up building a resource bus and a much more organized factory, but the initial hodgepdge is amazing
SeiichiSin: You probably want to work on electricity first.
an_asp: Yeah, I severely underestimated how many resources you would need late-game and my base was not expandable, and that's when things turn into spaghetti
Solid_Fuel: unless you have to smelt
NovaTiempo: time sink
Thatwasademo: yeah, important note, if you click on a recipe that you can handcraft all parts of, all of those parts will be added to your queue
creasehearst: the game crafts the intermediates ones, it's not that they aren't needed
RebelliousUno: they're used in various other things
an_asp: Multiplayer also turns into spaghetti on its own because people aren't coordinating
an_asp: Which is great
RebelliousUno: gears might be used in multiple recipes
Thatwasademo: also each intermediate product takes like half a second or so
manfred909: human smart factroy not
noSmokeFire: chat, I think James might be an audience plant
LathosTiran: silly game assuming humans are smart
an_asp: The goal of factorio is "Always More"
josh___something: So basically, it's to make automation more complicated
innovativemethods: there is no "final goal". always more.
Snowcookies: James is the audience surrogate of this story
QuadmanSWE: uranium and oil and water
cardinalwiggles: the factorio answer for how many do i need is "More than that"
creasehearst: The Factory Must Grow
Thatwasademo: it makes automation more complicated and makes handcrafting take longer
an_asp: Unless you mistakenly automate artillery remotes like a post I saw once
Thatwasademo: eventually you hit a point where even though automation is complicated you can't keep up with handcrafting complicated things
DerDrongo: for automation... if you think you have enough, double it and you will still be short
RebelliousUno: unless your person is on fire
sivakrytos: @cardinalwiggles double it. and then more than that
Anaerin: Make a chain of miners feeding each other, so it mines until all inventories are full.
Snowcookies: the internal heaet capacity
ExachixKitsune: It's reccomended, if you do have the internal heat to make iron, you seek medical attention
BITs19_: I'm so excited seeing them beginning to Get It
TehAmelie: like Warcraft 2 had you build peons to mine gold until half the mine was empty huh
Snowcookies: ExachixKitsune: but what if I'm a furnace?
misspokeycat: it's satisfying to finally take contrsruction robots to your first base and rip apart the entire thing to make way for a rebuild :)
niccus: two coal mines feeding each other is the best early automation
an_asp: Magical wind-powered conveyor-belts
innovativemethods: belts from the beginning. mm.
TheWooglie: ooh conveyors
Anaerin: Burner inserters. Regular inserters require power.
noSmokeFire: isn't electronic circuit locked by automation?
Solid_Fuel: belt is love, belt is life!
SeiichiSin: You can also put the mining drill to deposit directly into the furnace.
Thatwasademo: well burner inserters also require power they just happen to be able to use fuel
ExachixKitsune: @Snowcookies : Seems bad, but not critical. I advise upgrading to a blast furnace
creasehearst: you can also have a drill output directly into a furnace if you place the furnace directly on the output point of the drill
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Is the end game to achieve fully automated luxury space gay communism? If so I am in.
misspokeycat: you can use burner inserters though beforehand
StageMgrRob: You can also have the coal miners feeding each other.
noSmokeFire: @AWildTransgirlAppeared if only
innovativemethods: burner inserters are also hilariously inefficient - 2.7% duty cycle, inserters are better
Solid_Fuel: inserter = mechanical arm
Dergib: inserter works kinda like hopper?
Thatwasademo: burner inserters can also pick up fuel for themselves, which I think is the answer to what serge was asking
SoapyMarmoset: it does feed itself though
NamesAreSilly: I seem to recall burners being useful for coal-power at least, as they'll feed themselves from the belt?
innovativemethods: Serge gets it!
Anaerin: NamesAreSilly Yup.
LathosTiran: layout an example and itll make more sense
RebelliousUno: yeah burner inserters self power off of coal
niccus: yeah, even later on you'll have a few to jump-start if you accidentally do a brown-out
an_asp: Burners are nice for coal power because if you have a power outage they will come back to life without power
rrtycoon2: If you know the ME system from modded, inserters are dual purpose import/export busses, and belts are the conduits.
misspokeycat: i always end up with my electric mining drills running out of coal shutting down my factory though xD
innovativemethods: you're gaming! you're actively gaming!
Solid_Fuel: might be a good ideat to make alt show inserter direction. can be done in the settings
josh___something: So neat!
LathosTiran: the arms are a little smart, they can see a full inventory and not act on it
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Thatwasademo: things can get gummed up if you have more than one item type per lane, but mad geniuses can make it work
LathosTiran: because the smelter has coal in it
SeiichiSin: It will also only fill to a point.
RebelliousUno: are the furnace full?
innovativemethods: furnace is full
creasehearst: the inserters will only insert into the furnaces as needed
creasehearst: it won't fill them to capacity
niccus: the programming metaphor comes in again -- everything will do exactly what you tell/set them up to do. *exactly*
Solid_Fuel: inserters don't waste
Rujasu: Wait, inserters are two-way now?
cadesguy: theres actually no "issue" here, belts will back up, and its safe
Thatwasademo: inserters consider input slots full if they have enough for like two crafts, and fuel slots full if they have like two coal
SeiichiSin: I think with coal, it puts up to 1/10th of a stack. So if it has below 5, it will put more into it. But if it has more then 5, it will ignore it.
misspokeycat: you can do vodoo with splitters to filter belts too, it's amazing
RebelliousUno: Rujasu still one way
cardinalwiggles: the factorio itch is coming back oh no.
innovativemethods: @rujasu he's flipping it
RebelliousUno: cardinalwiggles get the creme
Thatwasademo: inserters aren't two way, someone just flipped that one
niccus: my laptop absolutely can't run factorio and it's heartbreaking; can't wait to get my pc back
TXC2: cardinalwiggles stay strong! Kappa
TheWooglie: man I really want to play this now
creasehearst: you need a ton of coal and iron in the early game
josh___something: This looks automation heavy
innovativemethods: might want to make more furnaces near the iron
pygmytortle: Feel like I might be watching a drug addiction develop in real time?
creasehearst: copper is not that useful for you yet
TXC2: josh___something that's the point
RebelliousUno: it is heavily automation oriented
ExachixKitsune: Honestly, this is making me want to play satisfactory....
Ziarist: yeah automation is the big thing
cadesguy: its only automation
misspokeycat: most computers can run factorio (to start...)
LathosTiran: how much X do i need? "all the X"
meisbored: are the top inserters only reaching the bottom half of the belt? can't remember how they work
hamishian: 12 or 4
flikerz1: Chat, if there was a box at the end of the belt, would it go into the box?
TXC2: reminds me of SpaceChem
Thatwasademo: nope
innovativemethods: @meisbored yep. they insert into far side of belt only.
Thatwasademo: you'd need an inserter to put it into a box
j0xer: normally you build a few of the 'new items' by hand but afterwards full automation
FerociousPeach: @ExachixKitsune i'm with you there, i prefer satisfactory
matufin0: factorio is amazing
cadesguy: you need an inserter belt to box.
SquareDotCube: For now.
creasehearst: they xibit'd automation :P
niccus: absolutely, although its contemporaries are doing a good job!
RebelliousUno: well, I dunno
Tiber727: Archetypical
meisbored: those inserters seem all set up wrong then
Darksteel_Mike: It shares the throne with Satisfactory, I think.
josh___something: *Notes game down for later*
RebelliousUno: I'd be thinking about Zachtronics first
Thatwasademo: and yeah, inserters only drop things on the far lane of their destination tile
LathosTiran: @meisbored they place on the far side of the belt, but they can pickup from both halves
FerociousPeach: this games great and has some really neat features, but i find satisfactory way more chill and factory focused
meisbored: ah ok
SquareDotCube: though if you want automation in puzzle form, Infinifactory is perfect for that
RebelliousUno: something like SpaceChem
TwitchTVsFrank: OhMyDog
FerociousPeach: @Darksteel_Mike for sure, they're similar to share, but different enough to give you a unique experience
LathosTiran: james goes right to planet killing
Darksteel_Mike: Yoop.
an_asp: Yeah, I'm glad that Satisfactory found its own niche
innovativemethods: you really don't use a lot of wood in vanilla
SeiichiSin: You can have mining drills output directly onto belts, into chests, into factories, into smelters, into anything.
TXC2: so this is Civ 6 then? Kappa
voslan: Pollution doesn't matter?
PMAvers: The Lorax shows up and breaks James' knees
Thatwasademo: you don't need the bit of pollution absorption trees provide, you need clear paths for driving cars on later
innovativemethods: pollution doesn't matter. we can just kill everyone who complains.
ladyjessica: Pollution matters but not right now much.
pygmytortle: "Pollution doesn't matter" Sounds like corporate propaganda to me
GerrardUK: correct, you are much more iron reliant than copper to start with
misspokeycat: you are _always_ bottlenecked by iron 🙃
Solid_Fuel: @voslan not right now
an_asp: I think the impact of trees on pollution is actually huge early-game
cardinalwiggles: @Thatwasademo you gotta build bypasses
accountmadeforants: SquareDotCube Oh yeah, Infinifactory's great. Especially with the leaderboards telling you how you did for optimizing speed and space used.
Ca_Putt: listen to the serge! MOAR IRON!
TXC2: "I am the Lorax, I speak for the trees, do any more chopping, I'll break your knees!"
Thatwasademo: (as for what pollution actually does, for chat's information: it empowers and attracts the game's enemies, or "biters")
Dergib: is this only on PC? is there plans to bring it to console?
josh___something: @TXC2 LUL
Solid_Fuel: waste not want not
cadesguy: theres no waste there
innovativemethods: this game on console sounds... undesirable
RebelliousUno: I don't think the interface is really built for console
AWildTransgirlAppeared: !cardname Waste Not
cadesguy: belts can back up, and its safe
RebelliousUno: nor mobile
josh___something: @Thatwasademo So, you're fighting loraxes then :P
ckcflynnt: "enough" is a word that rarely applies in this game. you almost always want more. of everything. the factory must grow
Darksteel_Mike: Sooner or later you'll need to follow the Zisteau Proverb: Factorio is a game qhwre you use conveyor belts to shoot aliens.
TXC2: !uptime
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an_asp: It's very mouse+keyboard-oriented
ladyjessica: This is making waste.
x0den: !time
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Darksteel_Mike: *where
lawful_neutral_wizard: !findquote automation
LRRbot: Could not find any matching quotes.
TXC2: Steam for the steam clams
RebelliousUno: it's ammo
creasehearst: it's bullets for your pistol
josh___something: !quote
Thatwasademo: belts backing up is fine and good and to some extent what you want -- it means you can make more of what's downstream rather than needing to make more of what's upstream
josh___something: riiight, sub only command...
SeiichiSin: The bottom right is your equipment.
TheWooglie: I can see how you have to have all these conveyors feeding everything and it's delightful
cadesguy: in fact, if you focus on making sure theres never a backup, youll probably get attacked more
TXC2: !quote fugi
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Mister_BlueSky: I remember when I could sub to channels.
Thatwasademo: !findquote factory
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MagnusCarter: Can you still right click the furnace to grab the output ?
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LathosTiran: one boiler to 3 engines IIRC
Sogheim: hey it's Factorio! I own it, but do not understand it at all
niccus: 1:2
cfusion25: @LathosTiran 1:2
TXC2: 10 boilers sounds like a lot :P
LathosTiran: oops
innovativemethods: one boiler to two engines is the current ratio. and you need like, 1 boiler now.
cfusion25: the ratio is 1:20:40
Mister_BlueSky: PrideHeartL PrideHeartR @heronblademaster
ckcflynnt: Ctrl + click grabs all the content
cardinalwiggles: when they get to proper oil and liquids, it'll get fun
cfusion25: for pump:boiler:steam engine
LathosTiran: water is infinate
RebelliousUno: Choose your body
SeiichiSin: Also by the way, if anyone has questions that they want answered about what is going on, feel free to ping me for them.
innovativemethods: you might want some pipes too
heronblademaster: @Mister_BlueSky you seemed sad :D
RebelliousUno: it is
sir_jack_DB: LOL
Thatwasademo: hooray for tiny infinite puddles
josh___something: That's a loose definition of "Offshore" LUL
niccus: it's a very deep pond
RebelliousUno: needs a canal
Thatwasademo: water passthrough is on the side, steam is on the front
innovativemethods: flip it turnways
SquareDotCube: Such a tiny water source!
Thatwasademo: and it needs to directly face the pump
RebelliousUno: the triangle shows the output
Thatwasademo: er, the side things
meisbored: sideways
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LathosTiran: it cant turn a corner
RebelliousUno: 90 degrees
GerrardUK: 90degrees
cfusion25: This is what the tutorial is for, the tutorial explains all of this
Wiliart: The arrow needs to point left or right
innovativemethods: no, you need to flip it
Thatwasademo: the triangles on the side need to directly face the triangle on the pump
RebelliousUno: that's right
Thatwasademo: yeah like that
GerrardUK: yep
innovativemethods: yep
creasehearst: if you zoom in you can see the icons of the products on the boiler
GerrardUK: You need to feed coal into it
Loonatic93: Fuji isn't exactly doing a great job of explaining it.
creasehearst: so you can see which goes in where and comes out where
Robot_Bones: rotate the pumps! doo doo doot do do
RebelliousUno: I don't think MP can see the ghost of where you're trying to place sadly
SeiichiSin: Fugi is also running on a delay to see what they are doing.
Thatwasademo: fuel is coal or wood
Thatwasademo: and that steam engine goes there
cfusion25: fuel is everythign with a fuel value except nuclear fuel cells
josh___something: neat
Astra7525: !uptime
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TXC2: Wood goes brr
Crad0k: factorio does a thing that so many games of its type fails to do, and that's what makes it better: chain crafting
creasehearst: you just need a power pole and the steam engine should start working
timiam: Is Factorio sort of an open-ended thing or is there an end goal?
Loonatic93: You need a power pole and something to consume electricity.
GerrardUK: end goal is to launch a rocket
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cfusion25: This is painful for me to watch, ill come back in 200 hours after James figures out what he's doing.
TXC2: timiam the end goal is launching a satellite
RebelliousUno: nice
innovativemethods: it has a reticle!
Ca_Putt: open end, but you "win" when you launch a rocket
timiam: Oh neat
cardinalwiggles: Nice
TXC2: RomanGoro Nice
j0xer: you can pickup building without losing any materials, so don't worry about bad placement
Thatwasademo: yeah you can always just mine your buildings and put them somewhere else
misspokeycat: fact oreos
Solid_Fuel: q james
Thatwasademo: q should unselect an item
misspokeycat: oreo facts?
an_asp: Q to clear your hand
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TPRJones: There's no cost to deconstructing and moving, so no need to be tentative, James. Plop it down in a place per your understanding and if it wasn't quite right for some reason it's easy to adjust.
RebelliousUno: and bigger
innovativemethods: faster and MORE EFFICIENT!
josh___something: So much stuff
GerrardUK: basically everything other than transport belts needs electricity
Thatwasademo: that UI is entirely informational, don't worry about it
josh___something: "A UI that terrifies me" LUL
TXC2: yeap that's a scary UI
SeiichiSin: Specifically for that power grid. So if you have multiple grids, you can check all of them.
Arclight_Dynamo: God, I should play this again. Last time I played, there wasn't enough there for me after the "story" mode.
accountmadeforants: Using no power, so eco-friendly! :)
Loonatic93: So, at what point do they start talking about.... RATIOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS?
Ziarist: oh god ratios
innovativemethods: does anyone use multiple grids? I found it's not worth the effort
hamishian: quest complete!
SeiichiSin: Literally everything can be picked up and put back down.
jman413: ooh, is it time for Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism?!
TXC2: SCIENCE!
Thatwasademo: technically picking up things that use fuel can cost part of a fuel item
sivakrytos: a lot of this game is rearranging
misspokeycat: shift entire factory two spaces to the right :D
Thatwasademo: but a fraction of one fuel item is not really important
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: or you can have your robot army move things around
TPRJones: Not for awhile @Loonatic93 let 'em do the "shove as much in as you can" method for awhile until they get the hang of the basics. :)
NovaTiempo: Bzzt
LathosTiran: the UI shows it takes 10 seconds to work one science bottle
josh___something: We doing the science!
Emu_on_the_Loose: That Science Dome is adorable.
Solid_Fuel: the lab probably has small scientists traped just waiting to work. all day. every day.
CaptainSpam: *Thomas Dolby riff* SCIENCE! *another Thomas Dolby riff*
misspokeycat: stand back, james is scienceing
Astra7525: poetry in motion
josh___something: Multi-science!
accountmadeforants: Fill this dome with science!
RealitySoldier: Oh god. The wish of you playing this game is finally granted
TehAmelie: can we make a Terminal Dogma?
Thatwasademo: if you want to cancel handcrafting you can click on the icons in the lower left of the screen
Loonatic93: @TPRJones I've been playing this game for roughly Seven years. *I* still get flustered with some of the basics!
TPRJones: heh
LathosTiran: you never stop using science packs, always make more
TPRJones: fair point
innovativemethods: In the science menu it just tells you how many you need
jamesk902: if you click on things in your build queue it cancels production.
manfred909: need to feed it science
wildpeaks: and this is how you get addicted to this game
Radjack: So when do we tell James about Balancers?
niccus: fortunately blueprints are there to make everything symmetric
Thatwasademo: don't tell james about balancers, they're a trap
pygmytortle: Oh god James has gone mad with science
josh___something: I can see how this game can take a lot of time
Archonic_Energy: symmetry is fine... until you see ore veins aren't symmetrical
josh___something: science done!
misspokeycat: they blinded james with science
Frizzik: morning all
RandomTrivia: That noise was very Kerbal
josh___something: officially science'd!
TXC2: hello Frizzik welcome
josh___something: PrideLionHey Frizzik
Frizzik: ooh ive been meaning to try this, got right into satisfactory
TXC2: "logistics? we got logistics coming out of our ears!"
Thatwasademo: the tech "logistics" only requires red science
CaptainSpam: Science: It's color-coded!
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innovativemethods: Try automating the labs!
cardinalwiggles: @Frizzik it is so good
Archonic_Energy: awww. "alot"
TPRJones: The tree view only shows techs related to the currently selected tech.
creasehearst: if you select the research in the tech tree you can see how many science packs it requires, logistics is 20 total
Thatwasademo: oh man time for assembling machines
Solid_Fuel: the queue might not be a good idea as an introduction. hides some of what happenes
TehAmelie: it would be too cheap to make a joke about ideologically motivated science when we already joked about communist science, but. . .
misspokeycat: the feel of finally building your first red science pack factory is so satisfying
Mister_BlueSky: Is there no combat, minimal?
Ziarist: combat is minimal
an_asp: Moderate combat
an_asp: But you can automate it
LathosTiran: @Mister_BlueSky PvE, becomes tower defense
josh___something: pro gamers
Loonatic93: Depends on how much pollution you generate really.
GerrardUK: combat depends on how you set up the map
innovativemethods: you can turn off combat
3and4fifths: Active Core! :P
sivakrytos: you can have no combat if you so desire
creasehearst: you can also disable the combat entirely through settings during map generation
TPRJones: Gotta admit this is the most excited I've been watching an LRR stream in awhile. I hope they like it and keep going!
an_asp: Turrets and such, and automated artillery.
Mister_BlueSky: No combat? I'm listening.
TehAmelie: we're already on a whole other level of technology than the natives huh
niccus: they're straight up devonian
FerociousPeach: @Mister_BlueSky there's combat, it ramps up as you progress; but you can also build automated defenses
Thatwasademo: it didn't go immediately because you needed to connect it to the power grid, but fugi is helpful
cardinalwiggles: embrace the spaghet
TPRJones: There's also the option when creating a new game to turn down the settings so there's little or no enemies spawning.
sivakrytos: @FerociousPeach you can also generate maps with no enemies, with no penalties
Laogeodritt: omg the mecha spider fish tank <3
FerociousPeach: @sivakrytos yeah, missed that you'd said that when i replied, lol
josh___something: so when do we get to the spider mechs Kappa
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Well, I am going to probably get this game. Do any of the streamers have instruction to give them credit?
Thatwasademo: the logistic tech directly unlocks things to make belts more versatile
niccus: oh, hover over the "effects" icons
Stoffern: Who doesnt love trains!
Archonic_Energy: trains are cool
Driosenth: Fugi - "I love trains"
Solid_Fuel: my first completed run took 250 hours. might not reach spider today, but they are playing multiplayer, sooo.... idk
sivakrytos: for those who are new and wanting to get this game: the game _does_ have a new player experience that james did not do
TXC2: anyone else have a train noise go by in their head after Fugi said "I like Trains" ?
Frizzik: everyone loves trains
LiveFaust: Serge - "I'm here for faster inserters..."
innovativemethods: oh the mod manager now has "all" and "none" options thank god
Astra7525: I have only ever seen Satisfactory. They sure have taken a lot from Factorio
misspokeycat: @sivakrytos there is a tutorial
Creideiki_SE: This seems like the sort of game I would enjoy massively. Unfortunately, it also seems like the sort of game that will make me look up from it and realise I should have gone to work two days ago.
Laogeodritt: @Driosenth Trains are the best. <3 I pretty much only play railworld-type games and factory architectures based on rail network concepts.
Thatwasademo: certain items can be upgraded in place, yeah
Thatwasademo: which is really nice
pygmytortle: Upgrades, people, upgrades!
misspokeycat: @Astra7525 this came years before satisfactory
creasehearst: it's not so much upgrading, as it is just straight up replacing it and placing the old one back into your inventory
Frizzik: same @Astra7525 they have taken a bunch but both still are their own thing
MagnusCarter: Server Save message
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Sheep for your wood?
Astra7525: @misspokeycat Read my comment again.
Thatwasademo: well yeah, but "upgrade" is the term used by the data files iirc
misspokeycat: yep, just reread it :)
RandomTrivia: It's fine, they're active gamers
TPRJones: James, when placing poles you can hold down the mouse button and run and it'll place them at max distance automatically.
TheWooglie: I think you can space those out if you want James
SeiichiSin: Tutorials are for noobs anyway. And we are hard core gamers here.
LiveFaust: sergeOffByOne
GerrardUK: You can do reasonably good signalling with the train network as well, which is also satisfying
HisEvilDomain: off by one?
LathosTiran: the factory must grow
josh___something: The spagett factory
Solid_Fuel: the game saves periodically and will show a small progress bar taht takes longer and longer the futher into the game you come. but not more than 1-2 seconds
Thatwasademo: the good news about power poles being off by one is that they have 7.5 wire reach for a reason
innovativemethods: spaghetti factory? Throw it against the wall and see what sticks?
BusTed: Symmetry defies efficiency.
pygmytortle: You've given Serge power? James do you know what you have done?
lawful_neutral_wizard: If only my gift sub to Serge's channel hadn't expired... this is the PERFECT place for that emote.
HisEvilDomain: do we think it infected another or is just a general curse
Frizzik: i feel like i will be so confused playing this after SF but this stream will help, watching intently
GerrardUK: how long before they suggest a main bus?
josh___something: !findquote off by
Frizzik: replace Serge with automation?
The_Flying_Bun: @GerrardUK they need to find a desert first though
hamishian: are you researching anything
josh___something: darn you lapsed gift sub
LathosTiran: @lawful_neutral_wizard 1,000 channel points could unlock an emote for a day
LathosTiran: !qdb
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niccus: everything, serge
niccus: everything.
Solid_Fuel: indeed
Mister_BlueSky: !quote 1951
LRRbot: Quote #1951: "Spiders are a universal constant." —Alex [2016-02-23]
TPRJones: The key to symmetry is to treat it like the crystal grains in metals. Build for local pockets of nice symmetry and don't sweat it at the boundaries between.
GerrardUK: aim for the car. That might be achieveable this stream
LathosTiran: mecha spider is just before going to space
Thatwasademo: it's okay to pause in actually researching for a moment around now to set up automatic research instead
josh___something: oh neat, quote database
jamesk902: Well, it is optional but you have to make that choice at map creation.
Neljandik: the famous last words
wildpeaks: more than 3 spiders
TheWooglie: James is going to valorant the aliens
manfred909: sounds great
SeiichiSin: Hubris?
TXC2: #3Guns
Stoffern: "we got 3 guns"
RomanGoro: It's not fine, James, you need turrets
BITs19_: OH NO
Thatwasademo: oh hey they've noticed you
niccus: ah!
Solid_Fuel: james has not even seen a single little biter yet
YouthfulAndy: nobody tell them PepeLaugh
TheWooglie: Hubris
Radjack: Hubris
Archonic_Energy: hehehe
cardinalwiggles: 100%
josh___something: Hubris!!!
LathosTiran: watch the minimap
3and4fifths: An entire planet of spiders
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Haha!
Ziarist: wheelerHub
The_Flying_Bun: RIP base in 3... 2.... 1... fgsLick
Thatwasademo: you got the achievement for being noticed
misspokeycat: it begins
innovativemethods: high
jamesk902: Speaking of PVE...
LiveFaust: lrrGREED
CaptainSpam: We have three times the shootym'ns of a single shootym'ns. We're fine.
BusTed: Hahaha.
Frizzik: what is hubris to you?
Mister_BlueSky: !quote 6507
LRRbot: Quote #6507: "How many times can we count James' hubris?" —Serge [2019-10-22]
josh___something: LUL
TheWooglie: The timing
TXC2: !clips
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NovaTiempo: lol
cardinalwiggles: HUBRIS
Laurence72: WOW
Thatwasademo: by the way, hold space, don't tap it
accountmadeforants: Hey look, a health bar! LUL
josh___something: they come so fast too
LiveFaust: Only a 3-ling rush?
monkeyboyktc: karma man
manfred909: so about that research
monkeyrama: LUL LUL LUL
flikerz1: that was perfect!
AllGoodDogs: wheelerHub wheelerHub wheelerHub
josh___something: The karma comes quick
jamesk902: lrrGREED
Gnuttor: Perfect!
TPRJones: the game is listening....
Ca_Putt: perfect timing
pygmytortle: "I'm not going to worry about the PVE"
TXC2: some FAST acting karma there
TehAmelie: is that the whole map?
The_Flying_Bun: In this game, you are the bad guy, don't worry about it
Thatwasademo: that pollution cloud looks worse than it is -- small amounts of pollution spread *fast*
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Serge Yager, Robber Baron
SkunkyBlitz: TehAmelie No, there's plenty more :)
Thatwasademo: that's not the whole map, that's only what they've seen
TehAmelie: figured
BITs19_: more pollution just makes them stronger faster
Ca_Putt: procedually generated
sivakrytos: @TehAmelie the map is effectively infinite
TPRJones: @TehAmelie no, it's an infinite map, that's just the bit they've seen
an_asp: Map is infinite, yeah
Loonatic93: *psst* Radar.
innovativemethods: "we're only killing them a LITTLE why they so mad?"
jamesk902: @TehAmelie The map is effectively infiite - as you explore more new land is generated procedurally.
an_asp: And the further you go the denser the resources get
TheWooglie: more conveyors
TehAmelie: huh, and people said Satisfactory's map is much bigger
LiveFaust: Because, unlike SOME nations, they don't wait for a problem to get out of control before they react to it... Kappa
flikerz1: !uptime
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Stoffern: @TehAmelie Factorio maps are theoretically infinite I think, like Minecraft
DailyArch: !updog
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josh___something: @Thatwasademo Considering the enemies are things that stop pollution, I thought that was a given :P
MagnusCarter: Now patching my install to 1.0
hamishian: logistics seems like the logical next step
RealitySoldier: Are you sure that gathering all that excess coal in a chest is a good idea? I don't recall there being a good way to get it all back on the conveyor
josh___something: LUL
Mister_BlueSky: LUL
Solid_Fuel: LOL
Thatwasademo: you can pause in single player, or the host can pause in multiplayer
an_asp: Satisfactory's map is handmade, which makes it feel much bigger
AWildTransgirlAppeared: LUL
TehAmelie: fun fact: the side of Minecraft's square world is a little bigger than the diameter of Venus
TheWooglie: can fugi trigger the enemies or was it random?
MagnusCarter: Are you going to teach them about a bus Fugi ?
TehAmelie: i meant Neptune
Solid_Fuel: BTW @LoadingReadyRun you are playing MTG
Fugi: I don't like busses
j0xer: they can only see a very small part of the map currently
TehAmelie: planets are all basically the same right
Fugi: I like trains
TXC2: TheWooglie it was random
an_asp: Train networks are the way to go
TPRJones: I suspect the reason he mentioned the PVE is he saw the cloud was getting out towards them, so the causality on that was the other way around.
an_asp: You can just copy-paste your factory and connect it to the trains
Veggiekeks: train is coming
TXC2: Fugi never come to the UK then, all our trains are replaced with buses :P
an_asp: And now you have two factories
TXC2: :P
Solid_Fuel: nope sorry
Awaiko: This has been fun to watch.
Solid_Fuel: i am drunk
GerrardUK: I like there is a default map setting that makes use of trains
Thatwasademo: twitch shows factorio on this end
Gadora: This isn't the Urza lands?
TXC2: !break
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TheAinMAP: guyjudgeTrain
Thatwasademo: !findquote train
LRRbot: Quote #3810: "this train is gonna get in that airship and go to town!" —Graham [2017-01-06]
Awaiko: Looks like Tron.
DigitalSeahorse: has Benjineering played Kill It With Fire yet? seems like something he'd love/hate
Juliamon: You mean this isn't Mishra's Factorio?
TXC2: Right chat I'm off
TPRJones: !findquote hubris
LRRbot: Quote #6739: "Name a better pairing than Serge and hubris." —Serge [2020-01-29]
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josh___something: @Juliamon *applause*
TXC2: Goodnight everybody, and thanks for streaming James, Serge and Fugi
TPRJones: !findquote factorio
Juliamon: Goodnight TXC2
josh___something: bye @TXC2 PrideLionHey
Frizzik: night
Dergib: this seems like a really fun game but I miss the shooty boys
TheWooglie: TXC2 evening
Fugi: @TPRJones While I appreciate the confidence, I did not actually anticipate the attack
RealitySoldier: @dergib don't worry, factorio has spitty boys :^]
SoldieroFortune: !next
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TheAinMAP: katesAir
Thatwasademo: oh hey I actually came back right as the break ended
Thatwasademo: smelters don't actually put items outside of themselves
kerbalized_: the same inserter can put in fuel and smeltables
Thatwasademo: you need inserters to take items out of the output slot
josh___something: Wow... I thought it was echoing... I just had 2 tabs open... benginFacepalm
The_Flying_Bun: do not storage
Solid_Fuel: you almost never store stuff in factorio. you use output to make output and repeat
Ca_Putt: well and the smelters
TheWooglie: Coal->electricity->everything else
Thatwasademo: you won't be able to make smelters stop using fuel for a long while
Thatwasademo: so you'll need coal going to those too
Archonic_Energy: water burner... *twitch*
GerrardUK: Also mention the red long inserters and the possiblity of using 2 belts to feed into stuff
innovativemethods: you can just make more power
GerrardUK: "How many drills do I want?" "Yes"
creasehearst: the ratio for steam engine power is 1 offshore pump to 20 boilers to 40 steam engines
Thatwasademo: the ratio everyone says for fuel/steam power as it stands now is 1 pump to 20 boilers to 40 steam engines
an_asp: Cover the whole deposit!
BusTed: oh nooo
Thatwasademo: do either one
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voslan: Off by 1?
SnackPak_: sergeOffByOne ?
josh___something: LUL
Flotil: Just use underground belts nilaIQ
Thatwasademo: also those power poles on the right *aren't* perfectly spaced, that would be *seven* tiles apart
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pygmytortle: lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE
chrono2x: This sergeOffByOne is not Serge's fault
creasehearst: spaghettifactorio
TheWooglie: Fight Fight
BusTed: immobile object force meets an unstoppable force
Solid_Fuel: yo dont move or redesign, you just find a solution
Blasteg: spaghetti code?
j0xer: you are replacing the coal miners anyway, just delete and rebuild that whole section
MagnusCarter: Powerlines will all be replaced when you get better ones
Lord_Hosk: Rule Number 1 of life, Fugi is always right. Rule number two... Refer to rule number one.
Solid_Fuel: @Blasteg spagetticode is more redable than most factorio factories
Blasteg: do coals run our?
cardinalwiggles: click and hold the power poles to space them out perfectly without having to manually work it out
beowuuf: rule number 2, do not talk about right club
Thatwasademo: coal will run out eventually
Thatwasademo: it's like 1k per tile in that patch though, so it'll take a while
josh___something: Spaghetti factory sounds... either delicious or, very much not delicious
creasehearst: if you dismantle the chest, any items inside it will get deposited into your inventory, you don't need to empty the chests first
Thatwasademo: actually probably was more than 1k looking at this iron patch's numbers
Awaiko: Is there a storyline, or is it essentially create your own fun?
Thatwasademo: there's sort of a storyline? you "win" the main mode when you make a rocket and launch a satellite into space
Thatwasademo: but mostly it's sandbox
creasehearst: they're under attack again
Thatwasademo: in the way that survival minecraft is
Solid_Fuel: miners spit directly out to belts no need to use inserters
LathosTiran: yep, biters are eating your buildings
TheWooglie: LUL
TheElrad: @LoadingReadyRun have you considered just diggin straight down to the core of the planet?
SnackPak_: So rude!
RandomTrivia: Hmm, that seems moderately unhelpful
TheAinMAP: Whoa.
Thatwasademo: oh no, biters
pygmytortle: lrrFINE lrrFINE lrrFINE
GerrardUK: Well, they added the "crash site" to 1.0 to try and suggest that you crash landed and are trying to get rescued
BusTed: Oops whoops.
ThingsOnMyStream: You can't fight progress!
MagnusCarter: Now you can move the Belts!
Solid_Fuel: turrets seems like a high priority
cardinalwiggles: LUL
TheWooglie: good thing you've been doing research all this time
niccus: well, you're the one destroying the planet
RomanGoro: Are we still on "no military research" plan?
rrtycoon2: I think the 3 gun method is being tested...
JakeKamas: @Awaiko You, the player character, are a space age human, your space ship crashed on this planet. You wish to build a spaceship to put a satellite into space to get rescued
ThingsOnMyStream: Oh wait, yes you can
chrono2x: hahaha
TehAmelie: any defenses, or just walls? it seems like you're too spread out
Glodenox: Might want to check on the pollution in the map :P
Awaiko: Ah, thanks. Launching a Rocket seems a long way off.
josh___something: the lorax comes in strong
SnackPak_: Let's go!
RealitySoldier: that's one of the ways to get rid of the burner mines
Kaorti: Good chance to realign the manufacturing center though
voslan: Peace was never an option
The_Flying_Bun: yes, we are the bad guys
Mr_Horrible: it's now personal for Serge
The_Flying_Bun: don't worry about it
wildpeaks: peace was never an option, honk
Loonatic93: Is there a Wild Paul in the chat?
tenthtechpriest: colonialism!
josh___something: "We just wanna be peaceful as we strip your land of rescources" LUL
creasehearst: you're the ones poisoning them with polution serge
Solid_Fuel: "peace was never an option" unless you play on peaceful
Thatwasademo: mining drills, rather than using an output inventory slot, spit things directly onto the ground
chrono2x: Can you make a car or something to move around faster?
Thatwasademo: so if you run a belt in front of your mining drills it'll carry the ore away
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Ah yes, the colonialism argument. THEY broke OUR stuff.
Loonatic93: @chrono2x Yep. Significantly later.
TehAmelie: i imagine you can limit pollution to control the aggression of the natives but not counter it
rrtycoon2: Guess they dumb lucked into a nearby hive.
jamesk902: @TehAmelie Indeed.
The_Flying_Bun: @TehAmelie rarely worth while though, just expect to deal with them anyway
Awaiko: Is the learning curve basically a vertical wall?
creasehearst: as close to them as you can go
Solid_Fuel: in front of the yellow triangle
Thatwasademo: you want it right in front of the drills, on the side with the arrow
LathosTiran: if it has an arrow it auto exports
GerrardUK: there are tutorials
RebelliousUno: thats qute the phrase to come back to
cardinalwiggles: clicik and hold to place a long line of items
TPRJones: hold mouse, move south
Thatwasademo: and you'll need a *lot* of belts
ThingsOnMyStream: If movies have taught be anything it's that whoever is destroying the "Coal Smelter" is probably the good guys
Awaiko: @gerrarduk thanks. Wondering whether I want to lose my Sunday to learning to play this :D
SnackPak_: I've seen Ferngully, Paul is correct
Thatwasademo: it's ctrl-click to queue five of an item, right?
TwitchTVsFrank: do your helmets have skulls on them if yes you are the baddy
Thatwasademo: (or 10 belts, since 1 belt recipe gives you 2)
Frizzik: "how do you put science into this thing"
creasehearst: either ctrl click or shift click, can't remember which
ThingsOnMyStream: So is Mine O Clock going to be replaced with Factori O Clock?
Thatwasademo: assembly machine can make gear if you set it to do that, yes
cardinalwiggles: @Thatwasademo i think cntrl click is to make ALL of them you can i beleive
RebelliousUno: look if your job is to Exploit, you're probably not friendly
kerbalized_: shift click crafts as many as you have ingredients for
TheWooglie: you need to make a factory to make more belts
cardinalwiggles: i could be wrong
Solid_Fuel: rightclick to make 5 at a time james
Wiliart: You need to think in hundreds of conveyor belts.
Archonic_Energy: i have literally been playing this all day now i'm watching it...
RebelliousUno: ThingsOnMyStream I wouldn't be averse to that
Stoffern: happy ore snek
Solid_Fuel: smelters are slow. make lots
TPRJones: I would love that! I can't watch Mine O'Clock due to motion sickness, but this I would watch all day.
Awaiko: I’m finding this really *fascinating*!
Glodenox: Material and processing improvements research
wildpeaks: it's a popular game, so it would be nice to get at least a couple of streams out of it
SliverHoopoe: stone furnaces are all you get for the near future
Stoffern: That asembler is off by one
Awaiko: I imagine this stream also works better if I wasn’t on my phone screen. So much detail.
GerrardUK: You can use the red inserters that grab from 2 tiles away so you can have 2 adjacent input belts
innovativemethods: electric drills look a lot less cool
TheWooglie: Serge just yeeting whole buildings
Solid_Fuel: iron+coal => plates => gears
Creideiki_SE: Wouldn't that be nice, Serge, having just one problem at a time?
gamercat88: how often do the bugs attack?
LathosTiran: biters
pygmytortle: Bugs inbound
The_Flying_Bun: @gamercat88 when they feel like it
Thatwasademo: biters attack whenever your pollution cloud touches a nest
The_Flying_Bun: ah yes, this is going to be a good plate of spaghetti
hamishian: enimies
heroscaperguy: @gamercat88 you were saying?
RebelliousUno: it's all that pollution you're shoving out
Thatwasademo: (and then they have to physically travel across the map)
chrono2x: Can you die in this game, and if you can, what are the concequences?
TPRJones: Depends on several factors, @gamercat88, like the speed of polution spread and the level of evolution factor. Early game not that often. Later on it can become constant.
TheWooglie: Magic
niccus: you drop your stuff and respawn, that's about it
Thatwasademo: you can die, I think in singleplayer you have to reload a save, in multiplayer you lose your inventory and respawn
niccus: but if you die during a defense, you're probably not in a good spot
gamercat88: hehe, ah okay. thanks everyone
cardinalwiggles: this is 100% a first time base
Thatwasademo: buildings getting smashed is usually worse than death unless you're carrying something priceless
LathosTiran: welcome to the pasta
voslan: Factory more like Spaghetti Plant!
Archonic_Energy: step 1 make it work.
Blasteg: Spaghettitorio
tenthtechpriest: there's beauty in efficency
Veggiekeks: embrace the spaghetti
RebelliousUno: Uno Complete the video game
Solid_Fuel: this is already spagetti but that is no problem... yet
TPRJones: Pretty is for your second base.
Laogeodritt: James - some of us spend as much time doing planning and calculation out-of-game as time building in-game ;P
jamesk902: It took me 4-5 games before I figured out how to make things not look hideous.
niccus: some day, james will know the bus...
LathosTiran: once you get a set you like you can make a blueprint to save your layout
chrono2x: buffers!
RebelliousUno: there's no cost to it being on the belt
Thatwasademo: nah, letting coal pile up along a belt is fine
voslan: @tenthtechpriest But there is wonder in ineffecty
kerbalized_: buffer everything!
TehAmelie: it's not as easy to reshape the world as in Minecraft so you get more organic constructions, it follows
ThingsOnMyStream: Are you actually trying to ultimately accomplish anything in particular? or are you building all this stuff, killing the local animals and polluting the world for the sake of general progress?
niccus: we're going to space!
TheWooglie: ThingsOnMyStream they want a mecho spider
RebelliousUno: ThingsOnMyStream there's a rocket to build
Thatwasademo: putting a chest along the line actually increases the size of the buffer rather than decreasing it
j0xer: it also drains the supply from the main belt
rrtycoon2: @kerbalized_ Yes, buffers...buffer all things!
TehAmelie: we had a crashed rocket and we want to go to space
MagnusCarter: Build more smelters ?
an_asp: You've crash-landed on an alien planet and need to build a communications satellite to call home
TPRJones: Serge with the big brain! :) In general your production desire should be driven by the output needs, not the available inputs.
creasehearst: you'll always have the giant line, if you don't it means the ore patch is empty
Laogeodritt: Ahahahah, right, Serge has played Satisfactory too
Awaiko: Capitalism in a nutshell ;)
Nigouki: ThingsOnMyStream we want to send a satellite to space to tell everyone about this planet we've ruined
TehAmelie: smelters should smelt, not suck!
Frizzik: the 'thump' sound of building conveyors made me want to listen to new order
Stoffern: Dont cross the streams!
TheWooglie: don't cross the streams serger
niccus: time to play the crossing the streams intro
LathosTiran: the assembler has 3 gears in its output, so it doesnt need to make anymore for the next machine to be able to take from it
cardinalwiggles: wrong way round serge!
j0xer: it can't hold more than 1 unit worth of materials
Laogeodritt: man, I've played Factorio with the music off for so long that I don't remember this music *at all*
Thatwasademo: the inserter on the copper line needs to be turned around
SeiichiSin: I see I came back from my own break to see you guys have started belt madness.
LathosTiran: toss copper plates in the red assembler and watch it cascade
TPRJones: Well, not really "full" so much as "it has enough to go but no output to go to yet".
Solid_Fuel: i really love this stream :D
ThingsOnMyStream: wait, you are literally making "red flags"?
Thatwasademo: you can manually insert a full stack, but inserters only put in two recipes worth
creasehearst: the copper plate inserter into the red science assembler is facing the wrong way
Ca_Putt: the inserter is backwards
MilkInBag: Oh no, ooooooh no, not the crack simulator NotLikeThis I must stay away from this game
TPRJones: that's one thing I prefer about Factorio over Satisfactory, the machines don't fill up with unused stuff when their outputs are idle.
Laogeodritt: I've always been slightly annoyed at how furnaces keep making until they have a full output stack. It makes clearing them out for maintenance a *pain*.
Laogeodritt: or... not a pain necessarily, it can be automated, it just takes a long time to clear everything out.
Thatwasademo: oh yeah, because you stop being able to mine the furnaces once your inventory is full from all the plates
TheWooglie: oooh
BusTed: This offends James's sensibilities.
gamercat88: seabatBRAIN
TheWooglie: Fugi that's so cool
SliverHoopoe: Just wait until they discover you can use both sides of the belt for ore and coal
Awaiko: Wait, Satisfactory isn’t just a pun, it’s an actual thing?
TehAmelie: now it's looking a bit like Opus Magnum with the robot arms
RebelliousUno: I think that far right furnace doesn't have the output?
cardinalwiggles: turn around the inserter!
Thatwasademo: got there
MilkInBag: SCIENCE!
BusTed: Yay.
kerbalized_: satisfactory is a simpler 3D factorio
The_Flying_Bun: The childish glee is great
Awaiko: @kerbalized_ ty!
Frizzik: it is a lot of fun
Thatwasademo: now you're making and consuming red packs automatically, and can easily get all the techs that only need red given only time
cardinalwiggles: time to talk about ratios!
GerrardUK: Got the basics, now expand it to make it quicker...
TheWooglie: make some manually?
Solid_Fuel: scaling in factorio is the hard part
Ca_Putt: Scale it!
TPRJones: And that, Serge, is the basis for thinking about ratios. It's all about finding what you need instead of working only from what you have. :)
GerrardUK: blueprints helps a bit with scaling stuff
pygmytortle: *cries happy corporate tears*
Thatwasademo: you could in fact do that
innovativemethods: yes! you can use a blueprint!
TPRJones: Copy paste? Time for blueprints?
niccus: Fugi, do you have a favorite mod by any chance?
Solid_Fuel: TURRETS!!! :D
Stoffern: you want enough science to run both labs tho
LathosTiran: ♪bum-ba-bumm♫
TehAmelie: *cries carbon dioxide* it's so beautiful
MilkInBag: You've completed the turrets! That means in usual game tropes, enemies will now spawn
Astra7525: I don't understand why you would go for 4 labs when it looks like your current production line cannot supply two labs at the same time
TheWooglie: new research
lawful_neutral_wizard: This would work just as well with only one science dome, right?
SliverHoopoe: iron plates are buffered in the machine
MagnusCarter: James has all the Ore
creasehearst: you've disassembled your iron plate production :P
pygmytortle: So now can we not only pollute the natives, we can punish them for not liking it! Yay!
Laogeodritt: @lawful_neutral_wizard Yup, right now the bottleneck is the red scienee production and it happens to be about 1/2 of the lab capacity
GerrardUK: You can get laser turrets later on
Thatwasademo: bullet turrets need clipozines
TheWooglie: 1?
Solid_Fuel: gun needs ammo to shoot???
LathosTiran: many
NovaTiempo: *giggles in ative bug chatter*
creasehearst: magazines don't last long
Stoffern: 100
NovaTiempo: *native
RockPusher: engaging in some automated industrial diplomacy
kais58: it will need more
Wiliart: You automate the bullet production...
Chantzzzzz: lots
The_Flying_Bun: 1 bullet oh dear
ThingsOnMyStream: So when does the Lorax show up?
Thatwasademo: make an bullet assembler
ThreeCatsInATrenchcoat: You definitely want more bullets
pygmytortle: *Gives turret 1 bullet* "Okay now defend"
innovativemethods: You want literally 100.
TehAmelie: at least they're not wearing clothes, then we'd feel really bad
NovaTiempo: good call
lawful_neutral_wizard: Turret can has a little bullet, as a treat
niccus: actually good call
Thatwasademo: the good news is it's not literally one bullet, it's one clipozine
Rujasu: "As many as you can spare" is the correct amount of bullets in a turret
wildpeaks: but who will be the Wiggins then ?
Eon71: this seems like an extremely complicated game. lol
MilkInBag: Wait, it's a soft G in Fugi?
Thatwasademo: the bad news is that one clipozine is probably not enough
SeiichiSin: I heard the noise and hit T to open research...
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Is it FuGif or FuJif?
Chantzzzzz: in factorio, whenever you think you've got enough of something, you probably need way more
Fugi: it's pronounced Fuji yes
NovaTiempo: Fuggy or Fujy?
TehAmelie: wait, how much science do you need to invent walls?
NovaTiempo: ah, thx
LathosTiran: if only the stone production wasnt kicking out polution.......
LathosTiran: like the mountian
TheWooglie: this is so good
TPRJones: Shift-click to load it in
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Wiliart: Put them in the smelter James.
LathosTiran: make a box with an inserter to put it on abelt
TheWooglie: boxes are minecraft red herrings
MagnusCarter: Build furnaces & put the ore into them ?
Laogeodritt: Someone tell James about Ctrl D=
TheElrad: a human box for human people
wildpeaks: how many sciences are there ?
niccus: 7...? maybe 6
RebelliousUno: 7
ThreeCatsInATrenchcoat: More labs makes research go faster
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Nigouki: spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace
wildpeaks: lots of combinations then
NovaTiempo: and some call for combinations of tech types
Lord_Hosk: Serge "Im an expert at Game X" (5 minutes later) Serge: "I have discovered it doesnt work like Game X" (and repeat)
hamishian: what's population looking like atm
Eon71: what is the end goal of this game?
kais58: the factory must grow
Solid_Fuel: @CGSguy2 i agree.
lawful_neutral_wizard: @Eon71 Go to space
Roger_Job329: Rocketb
NovaTiempo: you could set up a curcuit fab
Eon71: OK, thanks
RebelliousUno: maybe scale up the red production?
RealitySoldier: This iron production will require instant rerouting for the science packs... or it just won't get the raw materials
RealitySoldier: i think
LathosTiran: everything is in service of making more science bottles
Stoffern: Not having iron plates is so last hour
Solid_Fuel: put more goo in labs faster
MagnusCarter: The Guns have kill counters
creasehearst: you heard serge placing walls i think
Nigouki: bodies are right next to the turret
Wiliart: That is someone placing stuff
Frizzik: sounds exactly like the intro to new order's blue monday
TheWooglie: doing underground thingies
j0xer: step 1: make a massive gear factory
Stoffern: Im realy worried about the capacity of that one lonely steam generator
TheWooglie: I'm so buying this tomorrow
Thatwasademo: you could just start a larger science setup elsewhere and leave that in place for now
Thatwasademo: oh hey look at that
Frizzik: yeah i have to get this now, although also want to play satisfactory again
niccus: is the bottleneck coal input or lack of turbines?
TheWooglie: Stoffern nice shot
Thatwasademo: you don't need more pumps for a while
Thatwasademo: 20 boilers can run off of one water pump
creasehearst: one pump can supply enough for 20 boilers
Thatwasademo: water is cheap, as it turns out
TheElrad: @LoadingReadyRun you don't need the coal thing that moves upwards anymore
creasehearst: especially when it's a resource that doesn't run out :P
Solid_Fuel: 1 pump pump 1200 units of water. which is HUGE
kerbalized_: 20 boilers?!?! wow my first map is off to a inefficient start
kerbalized_: the tip screen showed 2:1 so i thought thats what it was lol
Solid_Fuel: don't worry @kerbalized_ every first map is bad
creasehearst: the steam power ratio goes 1:20:40 for pump to boiler to steam engine
Solid_Fuel: alwyas add more space for the unknown
Laogeodritt: @kerbalized_ 2:1 steam engines to boilers but 20:1 boilers to pumps—so the overall integer ratio is 40:20:1
kerbalized_: Ooooh i may be thinking boiler:steam engine
TheElrad: James, I think you want the assemblers on the left
TheElrad: right
NovaTiempo: this game is satisfactory.
MilkInBag: No, this is Patrick
kerbalized_: my brain kinda broke that 1 boiler could supply 20 engines lmao that makes more sense
LathosTiran: break your mind of woring about space efficiency. you can always grow outward
GerrardUK: I think you only need one gear factory for 10 red science packs
BITs19_: I've put 600+ hours into this game and I still have no idea where everything should go
ChekhovsCannon: Build a separate assemblier location for red science and then the labs can be right next to each other
electric_claire: Oh no, I missed the beginning of Factorio
frnknstn: more space is good, but you can always rebuild
Solid_Fuel: james. don't start whith the end point. make what you need now
electric_claire: The long awaited Factorio stream
LathosTiran: use the belts as a buffer between steps
amative1: It's Factori O' Clock
innovativemethods: belts are buffer. chests are cache.
sivakrytos: you will need more space than you can possibly fathom
ChekhovsCannon: Run Red Science on conveyers so you don't need assembliers right next to the labs
GerrardUK: You can daisy chain labs with inserters between them to share the science packs
niccus: i'm impressed with fugi's ability to respond to situations with very wise one-liners
LathosTiran: build it to work now, dont stress about tomorrow
MilkInBag: The science must flow.
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sivakrytos: there's a lot of unavoidable tech debt in this game
Mahtamori: Have they been shown the electric pole placement magic yet?
niccus: yes, but james prefers neat layouts
TheElrad: you probably want to switdch the iron furnace input and output @LoadingReadyRun then you could make the gears to the left :D
GerrardUK: gears are really quick to build, so you don't need many assemblers (or even just 1 will do)
TheWooglie: they did go around
MilkInBag: I bet if you enclose the guns, bugs will ignore them
LathosTiran: they will route around walls if they can see a gap
innovativemethods: nah, a long wall is fine
creasehearst: the turret is very low on health and would probably have died if you didn't come down and kill them first
NovaTiempo: "lots"
TehAmelie: if it was me i'd leave a small gap at the back to funnel them in, and give you access
ckcflynnt: maybe talk about the balance of raw materials you need for recipies. have a look at the recepie and it will tell ylu the ratio of assemblers you will need
Thatwasademo: don't worry about ratios for anything but boilers, basically
wildpeaks: ah yes, the "throwing money at it" solution to scaling infrastructure
ckcflynnt: oh, well i guess never mind lol LUL
NovaTiempo: Eventually, flame thowers will consume all the trees :p
Thatwasademo: assembly machines will quickly become cheap
sivakrytos: you can worry about ratios when building things but now isn't the time really
MilkInBag: this is a seabatBRAIN game
MagnusCarter: Now you're thinking with Belts
TehAmelie: is it the sound of science?
j0xer: james you can add items from your inventory to your hotbar to make it easier, like belts + powerpoles
Mangledpixel: "watcha thinkin about?" "oh, you know, automation stuff"
Lord_Hosk: Im thinking about seagulls and pigeons and how they both existed as species before human civilization developed large towns.
MilkInBag: Jesse Pinkman is proud
AWildTransgirlAppeared: @Lord_Hosk That is wild. I had no idea.
Frizzik: these games can keep you up at night planning factory layouts
frnknstn: more science!scale more!
Solid_Fuel: james using speedrunning strats and taking from the belt :D
MilkInBag: I feel like your science using buildings are way faster than your science production
TheElrad: that one lab keeps stealing all the science
AWildTransgirlAppeared: I always thought pigeons were larger doves so would be absent from pre-civilization fauna.
niccus: labs are hungy
NovaTiempo: no
NovaTiempo: bad serge.
NovaTiempo: :p
Creideiki_SE: @Lord_Hosk An actual ornithologist once explained it to me: seagulls aren't actually birds. Stalin wanted to make the world's most annoying creature, so he bred rats and pigeons to make seagulls, but one breeding pair escaped, and here we are.
wildpeaks: a manifold-shaped garden ? chyrCube
creasehearst: that last lab isn't powered
MilkInBag: No current in that last lab
TheWooglie: electricity James
ChekhovsCannon: South most lab has no power
Wiliart: That lab need powah!
Solid_Fuel: last lab needs power
Creideiki_SE: @Lord_Hosk In an amazing coincidence, the same ornithologist also told me that pigeons aren't actually birds. Stalin wanted to make the world's most annoying creature, so he bred rats and seagulls to make pigeons, but one breeding pair escaped, and here we are.
TheWooglie: you can queue
NovaTiempo: out of interest, why not suqad steaming?
SeiichiSin: There is no such thing as producing "to fast"
TheWooglie: you need green stuff now
Thatwasademo: please research optics, for chat
MilkInBag: Yeah, seeing, who needs that?
wildpeaks: is someone doing Science in here ?
MagnusCarter: But LAZZORS!
jamesk902: But pewpew lasers
LathosTiran: @NovaTiempo not fracturing audiance
creasehearst: overproduction is not a problem
SeiichiSin: Optics is needed for Solar power.
Lord_Hosk: Build more research stations!
Rujasu: Colored lights are very useful!
wildpeaks: butt lazors indeed
Thatwasademo: it is very courteous to your stream viewers to put lamps in your factory
BITs19_: lasers and solar panels!
Thatwasademo: this is why you want optics
TheWooglie: build green potions
dylan16807: lights are pretty!
Loonatic93: Lamps are really good for streaming.
MilkInBag: Potion seller, give me your strongest science potion
niccus: green potions are *so* much longer
wildpeaks: you can't handle my strongest science
Thatwasademo: green potions are much more complicated than red
creasehearst: your stone miners are under attack
Thatwasademo: oh hey so they are
Stoffern: ALARM
Solid_Fuel: ALARM!
Thatwasademo: yeah you might want to protect your stone mine
TheElrad: is green science also gears?
MilkInBag: ItsBoshyTime ItsBoshyTime ItsBoshyTime
niccus: please be alarmed
LathosTiran: bugs
wildpeaks: Infinite Scalability
Frizzik: warning warning intruder alert
Radjack: lrrSIGNAL Alert! lrrSIGNAL
TehAmelie: i find it funny you need a stone field to collect stones from this rocky planet
Floofys: Oh snap! Factorio! This makes me happy!\
Solid_Fuel: it is not wasteful if you save time. time is your most precious resource
cardinalwiggles: wait till they get to oil LUL
creasehearst: go for the better furnaces
Floofys: Are they on a dangerous world?
TheWooglie: can you make a bullet factory then have conveyors going to the guns?
cardinalwiggles: @TheWooglie yup
creasehearst: yes
TheWooglie: oooh
amythist: Floofys all factorio worlds are dangerous I thought,
niccus: default dangerous
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GerrardUK: yes, you can make ammo and conveyor them to a turret frontline to resupply them automatically
creasehearst: you can make the biters passive during map generation
Solid_Fuel: james. put stuff in your hotbar to save time by not opening your inventory all the time
creasehearst: you do not need to automate the production of labs really
Frizzik: more science!
ChekhovsCannon: Could you put green science on the other line of the conveyer?
cardinalwiggles: yes @ChekhovsCannon
Floofys: @amythist oh, my single player world I made with no enemies.
Frizzik: get my satisfaction
ekimekim: there's nothing stopping you from mixing two items on one line, but it causes problems where a backlog of one item prevents the other item from getting there
SeiichiSin: Put green on the opposite side of the best that red is.
TheWooglie: ekimekim that makes sense
SeiichiSin: belt*
ekimekim: putting them on each side of the belt though, works great
Solid_Fuel: i always start with one product per second as a goal
Thatwasademo: if I recall correctly one of the science pack types is literally only gotten by repeating the action that "wins the game" when you do it the first time
ekimekim: Thatwasademo: yeah white science
ekimekim: that's the "end game"
ChekhovsCannon: Each lab can use whatever science you are using for research at that tie
ChekhovsCannon: *time
niccus: the proper ratio for green circuits is "you need a dumptruck of green circuits"
Thatwasademo: I said earlier not to worry about ratios for anything but boilers/steam engines, but actually I think the time to worry about ratios is when you're starting to make and use blueprints
Solid_Fuel: i have so many schematics drawn by hand to plan out small parts of my factory
Thatwasademo: anyway, that may or may not even happen this stream
ekimekim: this game is basically a continuous loop of "what are we short on now? ok fixed that, but now we're short on something else"
Thatwasademo: you in fact *need* to have science going into the same labs
Thatwasademo: labs only make research progress if they have all packs the current technology requires
TheWooglie: you don't need more labs
TheWooglie: maybe
electric_claire: James is either very deliberate or very bored
NovaTiempo: HOH
Stoffern: Meanwhile: Bitters love nomming on that stone
j0xer: literally haven't used stone for anything, done with stone
VmKid: lrrFINE
Arclight_Dynamo: I love that Serge just makes declarations about things he can't possibly know. :D
Mahtamori: You can feed science packs from one lab to another lab, which saves space and makes it look neat
TehAmelie: imagine if the world ran out of rock
TehAmelie: here you can't even make more by mixing lava and water
Saulens181: hello!
niccus: do a sick flip
TehAmelie: [Monty Python voice] splitter!
Stoffern: I...did not know that
Mangledpixel: try spinning, that's a good trick
creasehearst: a better way is to use underground belts for that, if you only want one of the outputs
Rujasu: Ohh so you don't need to do the weird underground belt trick
MagnusCarter: Can you still do that with tunnel belts ?
Saulens181: ok I did not know you can do that with splitters
Solid_Fuel: this is so much better than in the olden days
innovativemethods: yo that's super cool, I have like 100 hours and I JUST learned that
Thatwasademo: heck yeah, conditional splitters
niccus: it was added a little later in the game's lifecycle
Mahtamori: Oooo, is that new in 1.0?
LathosTiran: @Saulens181 it was a update within the last year
Styxseus: *wakes up from lurker mode* Filters in splitters? O . o
niccus: it's like... 0.16? 0.17?
Thatwasademo: it's not quite new in 1.0 but it's relatively recent
SeiichiSin: Fugi planning ahead? Madness!
creasehearst: item filters on splitters have been ingame for quite a few patches
niccus: it's so nice to not have to wait for filter inserters
LathosTiran: yeah it roduces having to make a mess with filter inserters
Saulens181: psst, chat, i haven't been here for a while. does Cam know about Othercide?
Thatwasademo: it's really easy to forget about it since you'd think it requires the green/red wire tech but it doesn't
ForeverYoung78: priority splitter is from 0.16
Mahtamori: There used to be a really complicated method of making splitters act like that that was prone to failing if the belts stopped being saturated...
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Styxseus: Oh wow, thats sooooo useful!
MDK_Marshal: Can I petition for spelling something with conveyors? :D
ekimekim: you can just run belts into either side of one belt
Thisbymaster: Create a service bus, two Belts two empty spaces repeating sideways with a different product on each side of the belts.
ekimekim: Thisbymaster: ssssh, everyone needs to spaghetti their first time
underhill33: ruined
Saulens181: only their first time?
Thisbymaster: @ekimekim lol
Solid_Fuel: serge tries to make magical portal
MDK_Marshal: Wait, hang on, with an early game spaghetti factory... is production going to spaghet-fupped?
ExachixKitsune: Can't make a carbonara without making spaghetti! Wait
ekimekim: MDK_Marshal: inevitably, eventually.
Fugi: Mods should feel free to time out anyone saying to make a bus
Rujasu: SabaPing
LordZarano: !venga
LRRbot: You'd better watch out, you'd better not cry. You'd better like to party, I'm telling you why. The Venga Bus is coming to town.
creasehearst: i wonder how long it's going to take before the pollution spreads enough to start biter attacks from other directions than south :P
Archonic_Energy: heheh.
an_asp: Make a sushi belt instead
TotallyNotaBeholder: No busses eh? How about an Uber Shuttle?
an_asp: Way better than a bus
TehAmelie: 'tis a matter of time only
amythist: make a bus? that seems a bit higher tech than you guys have researched so far
MDK_Marshal: Why do I have the curious feeling that the end goal for this is building a tank, and doing Desert Bus in Factorio?
pygmytortle: Big brain time
josh___something: Back from food, this is a lot of progress
TehAmelie: [Rage against the Machine intensifies]
accountmadeforants: !venga
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ekimekim: Gadora: por que no los dos?
Saulens181: I see that we're playing this without the maddedning, extremely difficult mods that make the initial processes harder than the endgame for the base game?
MDK_Marshal: Science inserters are the wrong way round?
Mangledpixel: wrong side of the belt?
Mister_Hush: those inserters are backwards
creasehearst: you do not want a turn in front of an inserter
Flotil: aarms wrong way
Spacepup: Inserters are backwards
TehAmelie: ever just stare at a conveyor belt until it looks like it's going the opposite direction and you feel like you understand relativity?
SeiichiSin: The direction.
Thatwasademo: serge, you keep putting inserters backwards
FarleyF: Maybe we should mash memes - Caillou driving the venga bus Kappa
Flotil: no they take out
Mangledpixel: oh, backwards insterters
Adamantcheese: they're rotated the wrong way
Thatwasademo: rotate those inserters 180
SeiichiSin: They are pointing the wrong way.
creasehearst: inserters are facing the wrong way
asddsa28: faceing the wrong way
Flotil: hover over the arms!
Saulens181: turn the inserters around
Wiliart: they need a 180 degrees turnaround
AlchemicalPanda: rotate
pygmytortle: lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE lrrJUDGE
niccus: just digging in with forks and spaghettiing it all up, i love it
creasehearst: the arrow should point to what they insert into, not where they take from
Thatwasademo: oh, by the way, something to point out while you're working on green science
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ExachixKitsune: "Fugi we need your help!" "yeah..." is the voice of someone dedicated to helping out
Styxseus: :D
wildpeaks: oh noo
Thisbymaster: the classic off by one error
Kyle_McQ: sergeOffByOne sergeCounting
TotallyNotaBeholder: sergeOffByOne +1
Thatwasademo: you just made conveyor belt assemblers and you're about to make inserter assemblers
niccus: i finished a peaceful pyanodon run last year and it was such an ordeal
floki4242: I wonder what their pollution looks like
Thisbymaster: I have wasted HOURs because of being off by one
Flotil: building over the copper patch WutFace
Thatwasademo: you might want to siphon some of those off into a box or something so you can pick them up when you need them
fry_dx: Oh Serge
Mister_Hush: You could go wider out on the other side of those belt assemblers, instead of covering up the copper
fry_dx: sergeOffByOne + sergeOffByOne
beowuuf: i guess serge has a brand, and james's brand is being too lazy to get his own brand right now :p
MDK_Marshal: I achieved total zen by realising that everything in Factorio is temporary - it can all get ripped up and moved if need be :)
TehAmelie: send the copper into the sea!
Chartle: wait are those mining things new graphics?
amythist: floki4242 probably not too bad, they don't have oil yet which is where it tends to really start to explode
ekimekim: "nuke it and start again" is a time-honored tradition
niccus: yep, a lot of new graphics in 1.0
Stoffern: This has been a lot of fun
Chartle: they look sweet
cardinalwiggles: play more!!!! Pleaseeee :)
TehAmelie: does ore get wasted when you get belts backed up and whatnot?
TheWooglie: you can just move everything James
LathosTiran: @Chartle yep, they did a art rework leading up to the 1.0 release
Thatwasademo: yeah 1.0 did a lot of graphical reworks while they were making new HD art
Flotil: Lots of new graphics for stuff like miners and beacons @Chartle
Styxseus: The belts look more pretty than I remember too
Thatwasademo: they are
Stoffern: @TehAmelie No nothing is wasted, not even fuel, everything just pauses
Thatwasademo: now there's actually the barest hint of depth
FarleyF: Admittedly I play this game with a lot of mods, especially the infinite ore so that I can lay things out easier
Mahtamori: Creeper evolution by time and pollution can make it really annoying if the factory is not quite capable of defending itself before they get too strong, though
TehAmelie: curious
Styxseus: The raised design is so nice :D Yeah!
Thatwasademo: idle machines waste a tiny amount of electricity
Flotil: They made highdef textures at one point might be that @Styxseus
Thatwasademo: it's not an amount really worth worrying about though, you just build more power generation as your factory expands
Mister_Hush: the spaghetti is in full force
Styxseus: The last time I played there was *some* HD textures, I think, but they where still WIP back then
niccus: i hope they get to the more immediate steel products by end of today
Thisbymaster: red grabbers
Solid_Fuel: better assemblers
innovativemethods: three inserters :P
creasehearst: not enough space between those for inserters, so off by two again i guess
TheElrad: those need to be further aprt so you can put a conveyor band between them
Mangledpixel: then where's your output?
BoatyMcBoatfaceJr: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 2:24:13.
Chartle: long boye
creasehearst: long-arm inserters outputting onto a belt
Styxseus: I am rapidly realizing that I need to play this again xD
SeiichiSin: This is making me want to stream a new map of Factorio myself.
Thisbymaster: Baby steps, one type of resource at a time
ExachixKitsune: HEY both of you are smart intelligent people! You can do it! Your brains aren't underdeveloped, you've just not realised the solution yet!
asddsa28: thwn make a buldy thing
Thatwasademo: the solution to not having copper wire assemblers is to make some copper wire assemblers
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Is there a fail state for the game? Does it get more difficult the longer the game goes?
Martin_FcG: Good morning James and crew.
Thisbymaster: Maybe they should have started with the new Tutorial maps that came out with 1.0
Thatwasademo: By default you can lose progress or fail as biters attack
Stoffern: At least were getting Optics now
TehAmelie: Obi-Wan Fugi here
FarleyF: @awildtransgirlappeared there are aliens that grow as you grow your so you can fail by dying
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Okay, interesting. If your base gets really messed up is it better to just start fresh or try to repair and rebuild?
ekimekim: AWildTransgirlAppeared: yes
niccus: both...?
wildpeaks: what was the way Fugi described to see the pollution on the map again ?
lord_wertornion: So if they play a next time it is time for Bob's mods right? lrrBEEJ
just_monika123456: !commands
Arclight_Dynamo: It... expands?
Arclight_Dynamo: What?
innovativemethods: repair and rebuild gets you the resources of your previous game. starting fresh gives you good brain tingles.
Chartle: what does h e mean expands
TehAmelie: copper, man, whay can't it do?
wildpeaks: ahh thanks
Thatwasademo: it's absolutely fair to be a little baffled by green science / inserters, it's the first real logistical challenge in the game
electric_claire: You'll make it more efficient when you need to
innovativemethods: 1 copper plate = *2* wire, so carrying the plate is more efficient
just_monika123456: !game
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creasehearst: you've removed some burner mining drills
Chartle: oh yeah
TheWooglie: ooh
wildpeaks: ohh, had to click on the map for the skull to show up
Archonic_Energy: @Arclight_Dynamo 1 copper becomes 2 wires.
sivakrytos: @Arclight_Dynamo copper wire recipe turns one item into 2, which isn't great for belt throughput
Thatwasademo: also yeah don't worry about copper wire belts especially for short distances and for early on
NovaTiempo: oooooooooh
MDK_Marshal: Time is transient and an illusion anyway, so in the end all problems will be removed by entropy. So, go nuts and jam assemblers and belts wherever they fit.
Mangledpixel: look at these graaaphs
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Arclight_Dynamo: @Archonic_Energy @sivakrytos Oh! I misunderstood what he meant by "expand." I thought he meant physically. :D
Thatwasademo: oh there's a pollution tab to the production screen now?
niccus: i think this has been there for a while
Thatwasademo: well it is physically expanding
Solid_Fuel: 1000h is an option.... this game often takes som time :P
niccus: the pollution cloud is the shadow of our constantly expanding brain
Thatwasademo: a compacted line of wire will take up twice as much distance as a compacted line of copper plate
Stoffern: Now you're thinking with belts!
Thisbymaster: Surge is getting it
Thatwasademo: (assuming both lines are the same amount of raw material)
NovaTiempo: Pure Elegance™
lord_wertornion: @Solid_Fuel that is about the time I have one the steam version lrrSPOOP
MDK_Marshal: I think those underground bits are backwards though!
electric_claire: What is with all the unerground belts there?
Mangledpixel: you just undid it with that last bit though
Thatwasademo: one of those underground belts is facing the wrong way
cardinalwiggles: it nearly midnight here, so it's time for me to go to sleep, wish i could stay up to watch more. Night all
SeiichiSin: You have a belt going the wrong direction.
creasehearst: some of those undergrounds are going the wrong way
niccus: giving space for small electrical poles
MDK_Marshal: However, Now You're Thinking With Portals TM
00gogo00: how goes the factorio, is this yall's first time?
Mangledpixel: ah there we go
Thatwasademo: there you go
RockPusher: Serge "Copper Thief" Yager
asddsa28: everyone is spaghetti time !
niccus: this will not at all incur a technical debt
MDK_Marshal: Serge "Yoink" Yager
Thatwasademo: it is Serge's and James' first time
Mangledpixel: 00gogo00 this is Serge and James's first time, Fugi is teaching them
Frizzik: is it stealing if it is yours
Saulens181: that's like everybody's first 250 hours of playing factorio, james
Solid_Fuel: james, it is just a nice layout
Chartle: serge keeps placing the underground belts backwards
Chartle: X)
00gogo00: why do you need the undernethies
an_asp: How can you say advanced magic when you're not even weaving different colors of underground belts?
Saulens181: @00gogo00 power poles
innovativemethods: the top is imaginary
electric_claire: Are they doing that just to place power poles in a weird way?
TheWooglie: why do you need the undergrounds there?
00gogo00: oh
Thatwasademo: the undergrounds are there to make room for the poles that are powering the inserters
an_asp: The underneathies are to make room for power poles, since they don't have the better poles
Solid_Fuel: the spagetti is starting to form
Thatwasademo: since they didn't leave gaps between the furnaces
MDK_Marshal: Advanced lookaheadbehindaround train signals are some DEEP voodoo, IMO
josh___something: I kinda undertand this... but this is a lot
TheWooglie: oh the power
innovativemethods: theyre doing it so they don't have to do two and a gap for furnaces
Chartle: hahah he made the last two belt makers not have plates
Mahtamori: Serge starved the other factories of iron though :p
an_asp: Good job, me
Stoffern: OH GOD
Dumori: Didn't we already have iron....
niccus: what did you do serge
Styxseus: :D
Thatwasademo: again, it's completely fair to be a little overwhelmed by green science automation (especially the inserter automation part)
SeiichiSin: Burn.
Solid_Fuel: wooow!
Thatwasademo: this is, as Ian would say, where the game truly begins
josh___something: Serge exe has broken
TehAmelie: remember when we had the option to just hold down the mouse button for five hours instead?
Mangledpixel: you need copper cables, no?
josh___something: off by two?
Solid_Fuel: atleast mix iron and copper
Thatwasademo: exciting logistics planning action
TheWooglie: this is so much more interesting to me than valorant
Thatwasademo: (I am loving this, fyi)
Saulens181: did Serge cut off iron to the transport belts? it looks like he did
TheElrad: why are there 3 belts there???
creasehearst: he did, yes, two of the belt assemblers are no longer getting iron
Saulens181: good question, don't ask?
Styxseus: It's all part of the plan
Thatwasademo: lrrFINE
TehAmelie: we're making an MC Escher factory right
niccus: uhhhhhhh sure yes
Saulens181: this is fun and also my factorio loving brain already wants me to start fixing everything
TheWooglie: hold on did fugi say copy and paste?
Thatwasademo: hard same
lord_wertornion: same
electric_claire: Serge is like a baby bird that fell out of its nest
Flotil: Oh god the ratio's of those cables to circuits wispOmg nilaFine
Thatwasademo: it's fine
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Thatwasademo: everything is fine
an_asp: Yeah this game gets copy/paste mechanics
Styxseus: My first world was way messier than this, this is actually fine
Thatwasademo: any factory segment that makes its product is a success
TheAwkes: Flawless and efficient power grid.
asddsa28: XD
Figgyleaf: Perfectly balanced. As as all things should be
asddsa28: we
Mister_Hush: Fugi has created life.
niccus: we
Mangledpixel: lrrWOW
TehAmelie: 1950s movie scientisy voice: the machine is. . .alive?
Thatwasademo: it's working
Khador1: anyone else think Fugi sounds remarkably similar to Nelson
beowuuf: punchy-o-clock
Frizzik: did the belts though
innovativemethods: "I have created a problem" the stream
TehAmelie: if this was The Expanse would we get beaten up for being belters?
Styxseus: Magic!
TehAmelie: lrrBEEJ
MilkInBag: "Ah? Aaaaah!"
lord_wertornion: yes
TheWooglie: What did Serge do?
creasehearst: and now the iron isn't also going to the inserter assemblers :P
creasehearst: that splitter really broke stuff
Jericotyler: After using other twitch chats I'm sad there's not a channel points button that forces the streamer to dab.
Frizzik: "you have to do real dumb things"
Thatwasademo: btw I love the sound of James' crafting queue right now
AlchemicalPanda: James... just go take them off the line...
TheWooglie: James can we see this?
Stoffern: James...you have an asembly line for both inserters and belts...
an_asp: So did he use a filter inserter or an underground belt magic? Taking bets.
innovativemethods: I would like to see this
Thatwasademo: by the way, you can just grab inserters or belts right off of the output line of those factories
Thatwasademo: I forget what the key is to do it, but you can
Thisbymaster: I sort of wish this was a Costream so we see other sides.
TheElrad: @LoadingReadyRun that one red long grabby insereter is an illusion
josh___something: So... real dumb things
Stoffern: life finds a way
creasehearst: the button to pick stuff up off the ground or belts is F
josh___something: Spaghetti Factory
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niccus: oh no there's so little iron
Jericotyler: Factorio is a puzzle game on how you can do math using with belts
TehAmelie: mmm, power line tagliatelle
Stoffern: The turret handled it
Mister_Hush: It's grabbing both
Thatwasademo: if you have two inputs on the same belt it'll grab all of one that the machine needs before grabbing any of the other
Thatwasademo: which is fine
MilkInBag: Science is magic
creasehearst: until you get stack inserters, insterters can only grab one item at a time
TheWooglie: check your research James it's working
Thatwasademo: nah, that factory segment is probably working just fine
Solid_Fuel: nothing is ever as efficient as possible
Thatwasademo: your labs are now burning green science, your research tree is progressing, you've done it
sivakrytos: power spirals are BAD
Styxseus: Oh right, the consumption jumped when all the labs started again
Thatwasademo: oh yeah labs are super power hungry
innovativemethods: it's possible for it to slow down enough to not fuel the furnace, though
SquareDotCube: overloaded grid
lord_wertornion: and all the new assemblers making green science
Chartle: that's why you use burner inserters for furnaces @innovativemethods
Thatwasademo: you might want to make a bullet assembler if you haven't already
niccus: do the turrets need restocking?
RebelliousUno: or better bullets
Chartle: they supply themselves with the coal they're putting into the furnace
niccus: oh you can make a bullet factory and feed them to the turrets
Glodenox: Yup, they need bullets
MilkInBag: Is there a point in the game where you need a convoyer belt to feed the turrets with bullets? LUL
Mister_Hush: Serge could make a factory line for turrets and ammo, and then begin imperial expansion into unsettled lands
TheWooglie: Fugi?
Thatwasademo: oh hey
wildpeaks: uh oh
lord_wertornion: @MilkInBag yes soone
Styxseus: Uh oh
niccus: OOPS
Styxseus: :D
BusTed: lrrFINE
TheAinMAP: lrrFINE
Thatwasademo: lrrFINE
AWildTransgirlAppeared: Catastrophic failure lol
Mister_Hush: Coal conveyer's broken
Mister_Hush: Fugi fixed it
creasehearst: the blue squares under power poles do not need to touch
ekimekim: and this is why you use burner inserters for inserting coal to power plants
Thatwasademo: poles need to be within 7.5 linear tiles of each other, their supply range doesn't need to touch
Thisbymaster: Use coal loaders to put coal into burners.
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Chartle: half tiles?
RiiiisDK: did someone say holes?
Thatwasademo: the half tiles mean it can go diagonally a bit for free
Thatwasademo: like, you can put a pole 7 west and 2 south of another pole and they'll connect
josh___something: Now I really need to get this game
Mangledpixel: poor bugs
Mangledpixel: never stood a chance
josh___something: F for the buggies
Thatwasademo: but you can't put a pole 8 west of another pole
josh___something: they just didn't want to be poisoned
TheWooglie: queue research if you are leaving it
AshBurnem: What's the over/under on James being encased in stone wall when he gets back?
RiiiisDK: i have been suggested to play this by friends for some time
an_asp: Just put a circle of conveyor belts under James
aerohydra: its a good time, though its like civ, just one more turn
Thatwasademo: oh yeah that's a fun little detail - belts move the player
Chartle: the game's not on pause lel
niccus: and faster belts move the player faster
creasehearst: you can get stuff to negate belt movement of players later iirc
Thatwasademo: you can run faster than yellow belts, but eventually the game gives you faster belts that you can't run past
Spacepup: Beeply-doop
an_asp: Fast belts are great, and modded faster belts are amazing
NovaTiempo: Error?
Mangledpixel: beebleybeep
niccus: oh right, what if someone makes enough stone to pave the base
innovativemethods: hearing these beeps and being unable to respond is just...
josh___something: The in game boops LUL
Solid_Fuel: they are playing without us.... :(
creasehearst: belts will also move vehicles like cars if it runs over, along or against them
Wiliart: That beep sounds like the perfect sound for servofacts.
niccus: servos are so far away in-game...
niccus: well, ok, they're thopters
Spacepup: Bleep-Bloop, tunk-tunk-tunk
Thatwasademo: belts pushing you is kind of useful early on since if you have a belt to a mining section you can run along it to get there and check on it faster
Wiliart: True, especially with serge and james still learning.
Thatwasademo: at least in the direction it runs
creasehearst: it kinda sucks that the early game bots they were trying to make work didn't end up making it into the game
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Thatwasademo: I heard a couple of researches finish while you were away
TheAinMAP: katesAir
Thatwasademo: that's some good thinking, serge
creasehearst: that's only a matter of time before that changes serge :P
niccus: we need a bullet factory!
Thatwasademo: that's a good sign
SeiichiSin: I can't wait to see what happens when the bugs evolve.
creasehearst: you've also got better furnaces
josh___something: wait, the bugs evolve?
creasehearst: it's twice as fast as the stone furnaces iirc
Mister_Hush: This game's changed a bit since I played it, and I like what I'm seeing in that regard
Thisbymaster: yay electric smelter, finally way less coal
Thatwasademo: steel requires a furnace
Stoffern: "Lets you use fluid"
TehAmelie: Fugi knows the secret of steel :o
an_asp: For when you want Wet Gears
Thatwasademo: steel is just 5 iron plates in a furnace
creasehearst: yes, biters evolve as they get exposed to pollution, because they want to kill the stuff that makes pollution, and to do that they need to fight better and harder
TheWooglie: I'm waiting for the northern swarms to come
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AlchemicalPanda: Is it time to create ammo factory?
creasehearst: like biter aggression, evolution of biters can also be turned off when you generate a map
CaptainSpam: That is a lotta iron.
innovativemethods: I forgot vanilla factorio doesn't have stone pipe. Angel's has ruined me.
ekimekim: should we/fugi be telling James how to use the quickbar?
TheWooglie: creasehearst they get bigger?
creasehearst: yes
niccus: just a bit
r10pez10: thank you for subscribing to server factorios
creasehearst: and they also get upgraded to stronger types, like spitters that do ranged attacks
Thisbymaster: is there a radar built?
r10pez10: james did you err
SenseAmidstMadness: lol
TheWooglie: James needs healing
TheAinMAP: Uh oh.
innovativemethods: what did you expect lol
Thatwasademo: yellow combat alerts are "a turret has decided to shoot", red combat alerts are "a structure has taken damage"
Thatwasademo: just fyi
dylan16807: so you do have access to better guns and armor tech
Stoffern: oh boy
creasehearst: you might want to make a lot of ammo and a machine gun
Thatwasademo: if there's armor you can craft, you might want to do that first
NovaTiempo: Um, Fugi?
CaptainSpam: You have THREE guns, so you'll be fine. Kappa
josh___something: LUL
Ivalenz_: Um, Serge, you're the alien.
Thatwasademo: also yes, better gun than pistol
Styxseus: I like that "yeah suuuuure" :D
AgentMagicMaster: almost got lrrJAMES_SQ
ekimekim: you might also want to grab some fish, for healing
dylan16807: three guns PLUS TURRETS
Thatwasademo: and don't forget a lot of bullets
SenseAmidstMadness: and bullets
electric_claire: You are not
Fugi: @NovaTiempo ?
electric_claire: Wait, you are nvm
creasehearst: the SMG uses a lot of ammo, so you want to make a ton of magazines
TheElrad: you might want more bullets
Chartle: press tab
LathosTiran: tab to switch gun
LathosTiran: or that
Thatwasademo: I mean, the only way to destroy things in minecraft is with lava, so
SenseAmidstMadness: They're in the bottom right
Solid_Fuel: 100 is plety
creasehearst: those 3 are from the stuff you picked up from the ship
innovativemethods: 100 is plenty
Thatwasademo: you're equipping them as you craft them
Stoffern: 3 guns!
QuietJay: radFire radAlien
TheWooglie: NE swarm
creasehearst: and now it would be VERY fitting if the biters attack from the north or something while they're away :P
NovaTiempo: huh.
Eklinaar: It's a cerebrate!
LathosTiran: that will slow them down for a bit
TheWooglie: I see more red
Mangledpixel: to the west there
teavian: Capatalism Ho!
NovaTiempo: HUGE
MagnusCarter: Needs more grenades for proper deforestation
k473th: you can shoot trees too
Lord_ZYRK: Aren't you the alien scum here 🤔
LathosTiran: auto generated
j0xer: you can build a radar
CaptainSpam: Ha! Take THAT, indigenous population!
Mangledpixel: shplort
Thatwasademo: you can limit the size of the map during worldgen, but then the resources become finite
Solid_Fuel: minecraft is not infinite, just almost
TheWooglie: "safe"#
SenseAmidstMadness: Sure serge, you're safe
ekimekim: does minecraft still have a Far Realm or did they fix that?
SeiichiSin: Notice how Fugi didn't answer?
innovativemethods: another base south, from the mutual support
Thisbymaster: "Now we are safe" but they were not
Thatwasademo: although you can also decide to limit map size in *one dimension* and make a "ribbon world", which is a fun variant
ExachixKitsune: @ekimekim That got fixed
SenseAmidstMadness: Don't stand in the acid
sivakrytos: @Solid_Fuel this is just as infinite as minecraft
LathosTiran: dont stand in the acid
TheWooglie: regen
kais58: we started our new 1.0 game ~4 hours ago, our base so far, https://i.imgur.com/YTnVnPu.jpg, though we have a little more experience than the boys
innovativemethods: footsies!
NovaTiempo: Yesss
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dylan16807: once upon a time you couldn't dodge
Lord_ZYRK: They spit Bone Hurting Juice D:
creasehearst: you're safe until the pollution spreads to another nest and triggers an attack from that
LathosTiran: acid stays on the ground
NovaTiempo: F
Mangledpixel: you stepped on it
SenseAmidstMadness: rip
Mister_Hush: It stays o nthe ground, James
CaptainSpam: ded
TheWooglie: the ground hurts James
Mister_Hush: The acid stays
SoaringDragon42: stop stepping on the stuff
TheAinMAP: katesRip
VmKid: F
AgentMagicMaster: lrrJAMES_SQ
meowzhuxi: Don't walk on the spooky ground
RebelliousUno: at least it wasn't a fall
creasehearst: go back to your corpse
niccus: just like minecraft
hamishian: walking acid hurts
Laurence72: jlrrBreak
Thatwasademo: oh, I forgot that you can pick up stuff from your corpse in multiplayer
j0xer: helping is backseating
RebelliousUno: there's bullets on that corpse
Mangledpixel: James, the blobs of acid on the ground hurt you
Thatwasademo: but yeah, uh, biter bases usually have worms that spit acid at you
CaptainSpam: Ooo! Pretty trees to cut down!
niccus: there are... three? ways to move faster
Thatwasademo: you can see how much per tile in the normal view, you can see how much in the patch in map view
electric_claire: At least four
an_asp: Spidertron
sivakrytos: several ways to move faster
ekimekim: belt highways
Thatwasademo: you have one way to move faster already technically
MagnusCarter: Spider bots
electric_claire: They added another movefast option in 1.0
Saulens181: belts!
LathosTiran: running on belts
Solid_Fuel: belts
TehAmelie: are one of the ways spider tanks`?
NovaTiempo: Tanks are slooooow
niccus: and pavement (stone/concrete)
Mahtamori: The green patch up north, now that's exciting stuff
Solid_Fuel: paths
MagnusCarter: Roads
RebelliousUno: planes trains and automobiles
innovativemethods: Also: paths! concrete and stone!
Thatwasademo: belts, pavement of various types, vehicles, exoskeleton
VmKid: Cars, Trains, Exoskeletons, DuckTales, WHoo-hoo
creasehearst: those shadows in the water are fish that you can pick up and eat for health
NovaTiempo: Standing on mines
r10pez10: trebuchet
innovativemethods: you can do stone now if you want
NovaTiempo: *LANDmines
electric_claire: Exoskeleton Concrete Car Tank Train Spidertron
Chartle: rockets Kappa
creasehearst: in case you need ot during combat
an_asp: Leave the poor fish alone!
SenseAmidstMadness: for a little while at least
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ekimekim: also the technically fastest way of moving in the game is to enter a vehicle/building, then exit, where your entry and exit points are on opposite sides
BusTed: wheeee
Mangledpixel: wheeee!
teavian: weeeeeeeee
Lord_ZYRK: Hours of entertainment seabatTROG
Thatwasademo: wheeeee
TrueTransSoulAlesha: When does James accidentally fall to his death?
TehAmelie: weee
TheWooglie: This is James's level
TheAinMAP: lrrAWESOME
Laurence72: !yay
LRRbot: Yaaaaaaay...
Solid_Fuel: speedrun strats
kais58: @TrueTransSoulAlesha when they build trains
TehAmelie: more like convenience belts
yallz: they are run by hamsters
creasehearst: perpetual motion machine, james as found a way to make infinite energy
NovaTiempo: I do enjoy the peaceful music
Thatwasademo: train collisions are this game's version of falling in a murderhole
lord_wertornion: there are mods for that for sure
Thatwasademo: so enjoy that if they get there
RebelliousUno: there's actually hamsters in each one
TPRJones: conveyor belts just use gravity. they're downhill in all directions. no power needed.
niccus: trains are the equivalent of falling
RebelliousUno: that's how they work
Blasteg: portable what
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Solid_Fuel: i have 500 hours and never even touched nuclear
SeiichiSin: Looking through my saves, I just realized I still have a save from version 0.12.29-0
TehAmelie: time to play rock paper scissors to see who gets to run around in a spiral to find the next closest alien nest?
Laurence72: I just have this on as background noise, and Serge's swings of oh no to yay are great fun
Mahtamori: @Blasteg a portable artificial sun to carry around
LathosTiran: @TehAmelie radars slowly do that automaticly
Solid_Fuel: totaly accurate
teavian: lrrSPOOP
LordZarano: speedrun stats is running along belts as you place them
hamishian: are from the south...
Solid_Fuel: copy paste is easier with construction bot
creasehearst: it's a good way to make sure you make exact copies of say a long smelting line
Mangledpixel: robots make everything better
niccus: was there a setting to auto-place on ghosts or was that a mod?
electric_claire: Copying does copy the SETTINGS though so it's still useful even without robots
Wiliart: You need more cogs
creasehearst: do you need more ore, or more power?
Thatwasademo: you might need more than one belt lane of ore
Gnyrinn: Metal Gear?
Thatwasademo: which is a fun place to be
Stoffern: Construct more electric minors
electric_claire: I really like the new miner sprite
Thatwasademo: electric drills can mine from any of the 9 tiles under them or the 16 tiles adjacent to them (including diagonals), burner drills only mine the 4 tiles under them
ekimekim: you're missing a belt piece
Mangledpixel: there's a gap in the conveyer there
Stoffern: theres a gap in the belt?
Blasteg: your belt isn't continuous it seems
creasehearst: there is indeed a gap in the belt
Adamantcheese: so uh, any reason james isn't using the toolbar for how much minecraft he plays?
ekimekim: UI tip: you can put your belts on your quickbar for easier access. the bar at the bottom.
j0xer: there is also a capacity limit for the belt, i forget how many miners
Adamantcheese: wow #rude
r10pez10: geez james
Glodenox: lrrWOW
Thatwasademo: there's one thing that's a little different about the quickbar here from the quickbar in minecraft -- namely, things in this quickbar are shortcuts not additional inventory slots
Stoffern: Always check your electric power
ekimekim: capacity limit for a yellow belt is 15 items/sec
creasehearst: iron ore is now backing up
Thatwasademo: you set an item type to it and it'll pull from any available stack of that item
MagnusCarter: More Furnaces !
r10pez10: #blamefugi
TheWooglie: #blamefugi
Lyinginbedmon: Better it be backing up than empty
sivakrytos: backed up is good and fine in this game
Solid_Fuel: Reminder: toolbar is not a inventory but a bunch of shortcuts to your stuff
NovaTiempo: !updog
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Mister_Hush: One left
Glodenox: overlap is fine
SenseAmidstMadness: yep
Thatwasademo: yeah, building-type items remember their health and you need to actually use repair packs on them to fix them
SkunkyBlitz: Right
ekimekim: up to you, more density (ie. overlap) can be better
creasehearst: you shouldn't care about the green square under the miners, overlap is more than OK
TehAmelie: just an instinct but i would avoid making any machines inacessible by foot
zanathosis: yes
dylan16807: it's a tradeoff between mining speed and how long before it runs out
TPRJones: ^^
dylan16807: and by speed I mean how many you can fit
Pnoy__: you could wrap your belt around hte top so the second row of miners goes into both belt slots
creasehearst: you'll want to feed both of those belts into a splitter to properly balance them
Stoffern: Need a load balancer
TPRJones: or use a splitter to merge em
ekimekim: so, with that approach the extra belt can only put onto the right side of the output belt
Pnoy__: ye
asddsa28: this is fine
Thatwasademo: don't balance them
electric_claire: Or you can use a balancer at the bottom
dylan16807: splitter is easier
creasehearst: a splitter is better
Thatwasademo: balancers are a trap and ruin everything
ekimekim: yeah this is a good spot for a merge splitter
Solid_Fuel: damn. they are getting the hang of it.
Mister_Hush: just replace the conveyer and go the other way
TheElrad: @LoadingReadyRun just reverse the direction of the right belt
electric_claire: I mean splitter
TheWooglie: replace it with a belt that goes up
TheElrad: and connect them on the top
TPRJones: splitter == merge
littleredwolves: What commands does LLR have in their twitch?
TPRJones: r
Mister_Hush: no
Stoffern: no...
electric_claire: Point it down
TPRJones: facing south
SenseAmidstMadness: No, you want it facign down
Thatwasademo: "balancer" isn't an item, it's a pattern of splitters and belts that makes "perfectly balanced" belts of items
TheWooglie: one down
SenseAmidstMadness: One lower
electric_claire: Closer
Thatwasademo: one south from there
creasehearst: place it along the southbound line, then feed the second line into the other half of the splitter
asddsa28: noo
LathosTiran: a spliter cant turn a corner, get both belts pointing the same way
SoapyMarmoset: if you reverse the belt as it is now and it will go up
Agu_Sakku: Move it down a little. and make the other belt go parralelel
Chartle: do it the same as the last one but put it lower one
TehAmelie: we're gonna convey goods so gopod
TheElrad: just reverse the right belt and connect on top
r10pez10: think of it like a merge point on a highway
TehAmelie: *good
Mister_Hush: One down from where you had it
Wildfire801: feed into the back of old belt go upsidedown u shape
electric_claire: Put it one down from where you had it, James
Saulens181: Serge, "Overall Capacity" is 100x more impoerant than everything else
Thatwasademo: so where you were pointing there is correct, you just put a south-facing belt on the right
Mister_Hush: There it is
TheWooglie: oh yeah
TheElrad: just reverse the right belt and connect on top?
Chartle: beautiful
Solid_Fuel: merge pattern is a science
TPRJones: katesNice
TheWooglie: Serge quietly building guns]
Blasteg: how long would this iron mine last?
ekimekim: depends how fast you use iron
Loonatic93: I love how the new electric miners look! Really cool!
Loonatic93: How long does an iron mine last? Not nearly as long as you would like!
innovativemethods: I... kind of liked the trefoil dirt grinders.
innovativemethods: you could do patterns.
Stoffern: How is power production with all the new miners?
Thatwasademo: yeah, how's your power doing
Zu_o: Does serge know towers need bullets?
Solid_Fuel: those walls won't do much...
Thatwasademo: there are bullets in those turrets
Chartle: the towers have bullets @Zu_o
Zu_o: mmm
Beefpants: hoo boy I started playing this again after the 1.0 news. *several days later*
Thatwasademo: you can tell because the additional info view is on and there's a bullet icon in them
TehAmelie: power deficits seem a little more gentle than in Stellaris, say
TheWooglie: does it have to be exact James?
CaptainSpam: So much iron.
Thatwasademo: clearly it does
Solid_Fuel: why cheap out on the last 4 walls. it takes longer to go through a wall than arround
r10pez10: you serge'd it
korvys: *sigh* Guess I'm reinstalling Factorio...
Loonatic93: James' symmetry OCD is worse than mine!
TehAmelie: did the walls breed?
Chartle: lol
Danath_bym: LUL
TheWooglie: serge was probably wrong
niccus: you might want to copy-paste instead
Thatwasademo: gun facing doesn't really matter
creasehearst: because serge's setup that you deconstructed wasn't symmetrical
innovativemethods: you can, but it doesn't matter
Chartle: in your gun
Thatwasademo: your ammo probably went into your equipment
LathosTiran: they rotate, but it doesnt affect theyre range
Thisbymaster: Shift right click to split a stack into something
Blasteg: NOT coal not COAL
sivakrytos: power spirals are like, not super fine
r10pez10: symmetry
Thatwasademo: perfect
wildpeaks: giant spiders are bad, not enough coal is a mere inconvenience
Stoffern: James "Symetra" Turner
Beefpants: The new tutorial levels are neat
Loonatic93: No... James isn't an amputee with a light fetish.
Frizzik: just got the demo about to start tutorials
Blasteg: was there electric turrets?
Mangledpixel: "condense!" "double!" "condense!" "double!"
RiiiisDK: James.. come on nature isn¨'t symmetrical
meowzhuxi: Off by one
meowzhuxi: oof
Loonatic93: There are laser turrets that run on electricity.
Solid_Fuel: LOL
Stoffern: @Blasteg There are laser turrets that only use electricity
IVertebrate: sir Arthur comes to mind
CrazymattCaptain: but do you care that it's off by one?
wildpeaks: by the way, do the bugs start attacking based on proximity and pollution alone, or will they start attacking after some time regardless ?
Loonatic93: Pollution.
korvys: Top right is 1 too wide
TheWooglie: top right is one too wide
meowzhuxi: Off by 2 now
Thatwasademo: it's fine
lawful_neutral_wizard: Off By 1/2
BusTed: By hand, like some sort of peasant.
Beefpants: Its time for Emergency Pants™
josh___something: top right is 1 too wide
LathosTiran: they turn on at night automaticly
Thatwasademo: heeeey!
Nevermore_Painting_Studio: Does James realize he is out of ammo?
Solid_Fuel: achievement woo!
Thatwasademo: it's a big ol' ground-based floodlight
Loonatic93: @Beefpants Where do I know Emergency Pants from? Something Freelance?????
Loonatic93: Sluggy Freelance!!!!!! Got it!
Beefpants: Sluggy Freelance
Thatwasademo: yeah uh before something regrettable happens you might want to put ammo back in your equipment slot
gamercat88: yeah the top right is off just a tad but meh it still gets the job done
niccus: it's fine, his friends are his gun
Frizzik: less ammo more lights
SompSmash: !uptime
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TheWooglie: James: top right gun wall is one too wide
sivakrytos: it helps you see
Beefpants: Wow that joke is 18 years old almost
sivakrytos: at night
Stoffern: There are eight lights!
Solid_Fuel: cant use lamps in the middle of the day
Himyul: you Serged it AGAIN
TheWooglie: boom
Chartle: go up there during the night :)
Blasteg: so what's the next color of SCIENCE?
r10pez10: 1. make it function 2. make it fancy 3. make sure the fancy doesn't ruin the function
Loonatic93: Not a lot of room for expansion in your power area.
thundercat2000: blue?
Stoffern: James!
Thatwasademo: oh uh that's a combat alert
Chartle: 1. make it fancy 2. try to make it function 3. realize you don't have space 4. rebuild 5. repeat
Stoffern: ALARM
lawful_neutral_wizard: !!!
Thatwasademo: yeah lamps are actually *really nice*
Loonatic93: That's a pile o' bodies!
TheWooglie: they went between the guns
BusTed: Your turret was very well-lit when it exploded.
TehAmelie: i mean, the attacks are probably always coming from a nest
Chartle: nah the extra miners attracted insects
NarishmaReborn: even if so, worth it
gamercat88: more guns
Thatwasademo: might want to repair the damaged one
Thisbymaster: The light looks so good ,*ignores the corpses*
Solid_Fuel: yes!!!
Mister_Hush: America, is that you?
TheElrad: make a wall out of guns
Himyul: sounds like the American way
thundercat2000: bug hunt it is
Danath_bym: LUL
Stoffern: Enclose it in GUNS!
lawful_neutral_wizard: The beautiful area that is a growing industrial complex?
Solid_Fuel: walls are cheap as FUUUU
r10pez10: topical
Thatwasademo: "walls are more expensive than guns" - serge
TehAmelie: gun walls!
j0xer: i mean we do want mexico to pay for our wall
Mister_Hush: @Himyul high five
thundercat2000: and thereit is
gamercat88: bug hunt time?
creasehearst: you're barely producing enough copper ore to keep up with what the smelters are currently using
Thatwasademo: seeing all of these buildings with damage is bothering me
TheWooglie: you have better things you can use
sivakrytos: too much supply is not a problem in factorio
Thisbymaster: time to ramp up production
TehAmelie: how much of the stuff we're consuming have we used so far? it looks barely touched
Thatwasademo: do you have an ammo factory yet, by the way
frumbert: time to game it out
Mister_Hush: Exponential Growth
ujai321: so, how far off the spider tank thing are you?
thundercat2000: Time to science it UP!
TheWooglie: ujai321 not this stream
Solid_Fuel: if you have to little => make sure to make more
Solid_Fuel: if you have too much => use more
r10pez10: server factsorio: if you double an off-by-one, it becomes an off-by-two
RvLeshrac: This explains a lot.
Mister_Hush: Going back over your old messes is a good way to learn. Especially in something like Satisfactory, where the world is limited, you do want to conserve space.
TheThromborax: what do the buckyball things do?
r10pez10: okay fugi suddenly i undestand that other map now
RvLeshrac: I work in a 20 year old codebase, and a 40 year old codebase.
Mister_Hush: Fugi's point is great for This Game, specifically because it's infinite.
frumbert: treat it like windows. why delete anything? keep adding. windows 3.1 is still in there.
RvLeshrac: This is the philosophy of someone who has never worked on legacy code :p
Saulens181: @RvLeshrac 40 year old codebase... Linux?
innovativemethods: Pollution is also regional - you can move outside of the pollution
RvLeshrac: Saulens181: Nope! Application software.
Mister_Hush: @RvLeshrac To be fair, this is a closed system where there's a guarantee that nothing's going to be deprecated
Chartle: because you tripled the amount of miners
NovaTiempo: Offa!
josh___something: Serge pls
creasehearst: serge channeling his inner american
TheThromborax: Nominate Serge for Honorary American Citizenship
Wiliart: sergeSnerge
Loonatic93: Yeah... Fugi and I have a serious difference in philosophy with this game.
Solid_Fuel: sounds like Americans...
niccus: i mean, canada does it too
RvLeshrac: Saulens181: (40 is rounding up by like 3-4 years)
Laurence72: I mean, I knew from Serge's iron mine in Minecraft this would be his type of game
RvLeshrac: Mister_Hush: PC resources are finite, even if the map has no "end."
sivakrytos: refactoring is useful in this game
Rujasu: Yeah, you can just feed new labs by inserting from the previous ones
hamishian: Can we see pollution please
RvLeshrac: Mister_Hush: Eventually, you're going to run out of RAM or CPU cycles to continue the simulation.
Loonatic93: First of all, I just don't do trains in this game. But, that makes me fairly unique in the Factorio community.
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Frizzik: more science juice!
innovativemethods: we get new RAM faster than the factorio map expands
NovaTiempo: Nukes can tidy up.
TheElrad: well, now you need more green science
creasehearst: now to make more green science
Saulens181: my main worry with Factorio is the idea that the iron/etc. fields are finite
Saulens181: hence why I play seablock!
SoapyMarmoset: Fugi - "Mcdonalds! Mcdonalds" James - "we have food at home"
Mister_Hush: @RvLeshrac If I ever run into that problem, I'll consider it a problem!
Saulens181: ahahaha
r10pez10: !uptime
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Chartle: unless you build it well Kappa
r10pez10: 48 hour stream
ritchards: Fugi is a material girl?
SmithKurosaki: I hate headaches. slept through most of the stream :(
Thatwasademo: I think the idea in vanilla is that the fields are finite, but get larger quickly as you explore farther and the map is infinite
Loonatic93: Or.... You could set up some nice easily expandible busses.
Chartle: what i've done is transform my old starting base into a gathering place for all the materials and expand outwards
sivakrytos: right, scrapping and rebuilding is ALSO useful
Chartle: mine and smelt in other locations
creasehearst: making a starter base that allows you get the stuff needed to set up a megabase is how most of the very experienced players do it
rentar42: LRR playing Factorio? Oh boy ... I love it!
Saulens181: So, when is james installing the Angel and Bobs mods?
NovaTiempo: Train noises?
Thatwasademo: assembly machine 2 is actually quite a bit faster than 1, even if the numbers don't *look* that impressive
sivakrytos: yeah an experienced playthrough of factorio rebuilds like 3 times
Blasteg: it's backing up, it's fine
niccus: let's skip to Seablock and start a 400 hour stream
Loonatic93: For me... Lately I have been doing beltless, early logistics runs. All bots, all the time!
Saulens181: yeeees
Chartle: please repair those turrets x-x
an_asp: Space exploration mod is where it's at, take a mostly vanilla start but then build more bases in space
Solid_Fuel: converting a bus-base into a city-blocks-base is hard...
Mangledpixel: trains!
Mangledpixel: choo choo!
Chartle: trains are so nice
ekimekim: yeah my typical factorio run is 1. starter base, 2. main bus base, 3. mass rocket launch base
Arclight_Dynamo: Trains!
gamercat88: froot froot!
Chartle: they are so satisfying in this game for some reasons
Chartle: i love them
an_asp: I love trains so much
rentar42: "Our Iron is doing fine"? That's not a thing that is ever true in Factorio ... you always need more Iron.
Loonatic93: @Solid_Fuel Depends on how good your early planning skills are.
matufin0: train is another good way to have multiple base
TheWooglie: bullets
AtLeast17Grapes: Yes serge, we must CLEANSE!
AlchemicalPanda: THe miner seemed to take damage
Chartle: to be fair they just tripled their iron mining a bit ago @rentar42
Solid_Fuel: @Loonatic93 fair enough. takes time though
creasehearst: bullet damage and bullet shooting speed are very good to get early, especially when you don't really need much of the other technologies
Chartle: so they'll be fine for a couple of minutes LUL
TheThromborax: ZERG RUSH
silenceaux: Oh wow. Just swarmed.
Nigouki: so this just went Starship Troopers
lord_wertornion: Can Fugi show them a deathworld map at eh end of stream?
Lord_ZYRK: Game over, man! Game over!
Chartle: how did he not die there
Loonatic93: Wow! I'm shocked he survived that!
niccus: he has armor!
Mister_Hush: You should make a shotgun and start clearing forest with it.
PMAvers: Man, the new Helldivers update took a weird turn.
Thatwasademo: you'll need a lot more than 10 clips
niccus: it's ok vs small biters, less vs acid
Chartle: oh the armor is so gud
creasehearst: the worms have predictive targetting so you want to weave to avoid the poison
CaptainSpam: Ah, soufleé nests.
silenceaux: So wait. You're both marines and the SCVs
ekimekim: we require more bullast
Chartle: 76 is probably fine lol
Saulens181: yes?
Chartle: 76 mags
Frizzik: only have 76... james with 5: its fine
wildpeaks: don't radars also attract bugs ? or did the tutorial lie ? :D
creasehearst: then you should go draw worm fire james :P
Loonatic93: They're gonna need to mass produce bullets at some point. If for the science if nothing else.
niccus: can you still punch with an empty slot?
Mister_Hush: Serge hasn't discovered Turret Strats yet
niccus: radars are heavy energy users, so they sort of indirectly attract bugs?
priestofzentu: james should get a shotgun
creasehearst: the radars do attract biters, just like pollution
Loonatic93: @wildpeaks The biters tend to target radars first.
Solid_Fuel: hydrohomies
an_asp: Right-click and shift-click make it less tedious to craft
Chartle: right click to craft 5 at a time
rentar42: Right click on an item builds 5 of it, very useful.
Saulens181: james, shift/ctrl click recepies for 5 at a time / everything
TheWooglie: james needs a bouncy arrow
creasehearst: shotguns.... are not very useful
Archonic_Energy: seige tank strats
Saulens181: ah, rightclick and shift, sorry
Mister_Hush: Standing in DOTs
innovativemethods: shotguns have gotten *better* they are not good
Fairgrim: Flamethrowers or lasers
niccus: stood in lava
rentar42: also don't stand in the worm poop ;-)
meowzhuxi: James just standing in acid not moving
creasehearst: james... don't stand in the poison pools left behind by the worms' spit attack
SeiichiSin: Soo... It isn't exactly falling... But that is two deaths so far.
Chartle: don't stand in the AOE Kappa
underhill33: James "Stands in Acid" Turner
Mangledpixel: James, the acid lands on the ground and you kept standing in it
Mithgar: Don't stand in the spit lol
Solid_Fuel: shotguns are good against trees but not as good as flamethrowers
Nigouki: James can't stand in lava so he opts to stand in acid
TheThromborax: ACID is OP
Chartle: you can mine your corpse to get all the times
RvLeshrac: So you're saying James needs to watch his acid
Stoffern: 40 points of ACID DAMAGE
Loonatic93: Don't stand in the glowy spots! It angers your healers!
ekimekim: nests absorb pollution, and grow based on how much they absorb
rentar42: and attacking! attacking increases evolution as well!
Solid_Fuel: solar is the future
TheWooglie: attacking nests is bad you say?
Zu_o: I believe shift+right click is a 100 stack
KeytarCat: just make 15 shotguns
GhostOfACoffeeCup: my favourite streamers playing my favourite game?? say it ain't so!
josh___something: wheeee!
niccus: sort of, it's more that there's a cost to expanding/making a side safer
rentar42: passive
rentar42: just helps
TehAmelie: we have a perpetuum mobile, why do we need more?
Corqren: Car is really nice
Mister_Hush: it's gonna be mad max in a minute
niccus: are you making engine units yet?
creasehearst: the handling of the car sometimes leaves.... something to be desired
Himyul: is it a Pontiac Sunfire?
niccus: you need a bunch for trains and cars
Solid_Fuel: car with gun :D
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ekimekim: please do not shotgun the car, you'll need to repair it
GhostValv: how many cupholders :) ?
Mangledpixel: b....but.... choo choo?
priestofzentu: get in the car with a shotgun
Mister_Hush: @niccus LUL nah
Solid_Fuel: trains ar always better than cars
Talin06: Train good car bad
Thatwasademo: oh, if I recall correctly engine blocks can't be built by hand
r10pez10: it's the rail way
Chartle: that's because the box is getting filled
Glodenox: it's all getting stored in a box
Solid_Fuel: trains are better than tanks
KeytarCat: car with gun, doot doo doot doo doo doo 🎶
rentar42: limit the chest to 1 or 2 stacks, that's still useful ;-)
Solid_Fuel: trains with artillery cannons is also great!
creasehearst: oh yeah... figuring out oil for the first time is a pain
Thatwasademo: if you're putting a storage chest to grab items out of, you should limit its size to only a few stacks
rentar42: first time oil got simpler since the change that basic processing no longer produces everything.
Solid_Fuel: car sucks
rentar42: but it's still a big step.
Fairgrim: drive a car with trees
Chartle: you can also transport yourself
Ashton: You can't do doughnuts in a train
Arclight_Dynamo: The train is rad.
Mangledpixel: Wallace and Gromit style
TheWooglie: ooh like Hell on Wheels?
SmithKurosaki: Ghost Train?
Solid_Fuel: train is much faster!
sivakrytos: the train is a lot faster than cars
r10pez10: you can do figure 8s too
innovativemethods: the way he said it makes me realize how silly it was
GhostOfACoffeeCup: no multitrack drifting tho
matufin0: train are amazing and powerful
ekimekim: i wonder if someone's made a multi-track drifting mod
creasehearst: attack from the west
Stoffern: ALARM
Chartle: attacks!
rentar42: attack
Blasteg: @GhostOfACoffeeCup os there a mod for it then?
Crashzxs: rip whatever is getting destroyed
Corqren: Nom nom
niccus: please be alarmed
TheWooglie: that's why there's less green
r10pez10: attactorio
MafCallow: Players: "We need more green. Aliens: "We disagree"
creasehearst: it needs power, so it'll need to be placed at your base
GhostOfACoffeeCup: you can check the map for which areas your pollution is touching. there's a red square button in the map menu for it
ritchards: Radar Secret Service!
rentar42: rader needs power
Stoffern: You want it defended!
Crashzxs: on your minimap, you can see the blue square of what it will always show
Loonatic93: You absolutely want it in your defensive area.
Thatwasademo: radar should be defended, biters will prioritize it the same way they prioritize guns
creasehearst: you can go to the main map and zoom in
ekimekim: yeah, it's considered a "military" structure so they'll attack it
LathosTiran: radar is a priority target for biters
Thatwasademo: radar actively reveals the area shown and occasionally scans chunks in a much wider area
BusTed: Satisfying beep scan.
rentar42: if you're standing next to a radar it provides very little effect, it's useful when you're not there ;-)
Chartle: zoom in more
Yakkers221B: It must be hard loading, readying and running all at once, Good on yous for doing that
Chartle: on the amp
r10pez10: i like the doot
Chartle: map
Yakkers221B: Also hi
creasehearst: that will let you look as if you're watching with your player character
Rujasu: It'll reveal a much larger area than the one it actively displays
Crashzxs: outside that area, it will progressively work its way out to reveal squares
rentar42: engine units can only be built by assemblers!
creasehearst: you need engines, which need to be made in an assembler
Thatwasademo: oh Serge just found uranium?
Loonatic93: Radars also allow for long range building and deconstructing with bots.
rentar42: you can't manually craft the engine
niccus: as he would
Thisbymaster: uranium is a rabbit hole.
Thatwasademo: engine units can't be handcrafted, it turns out
Chartle: they need to be made in an assembler fyi
Fairgrim: radar also helps with remote building
ekimekim: pro tip: the one tiny first patch of uranium you find is basically enough to power a massive end-game mega-base for weeks of in-game time
rentar42: 1.9M uranium basically lasts you forever ...
Mangledpixel: who's ranium?
CaptainSpam: Let's get irradiated, then!
ekimekim: you almost never need a second supply
Thatwasademo: they're the first thing besides furnace items that absolutely requires a building
creasehearst: read the error message when you try to craft it james...
TokenMickus: Uranium fever
Wiliart: Can't be crafted by hand James. Reading the tooltip explains the tooltip. ;)
Loonatic93: Yeah... Nuclear power is huge!
rentar42: @LoadingReadyRun you can't build the engine manually, you need to build it in an assembler
AlchemicalPanda: You can't make it by hand
TheWooglie: Research queue is empty
creasehearst: nuclear power is very good, but it's also soooo far away tech tree wise
Frizzik: music is invoking some portal vibes now love it
Blasteg: solar panels PogChamp
Fairgrim: plastics make the world go round
Loonatic93: Oil processing is THE major rabbit hole in this game.
rentar42: solar doesn't use resources or produce pollution but needs TONS of resources to build initially... Nuclear is trickier to set up initially, but much cheaper on resources to keep going, even though it technically uses limited resources.
Figgyleaf: Deep? *laughs Maniacally* What makes you think that??
creasehearst: factorio looks very deep until you start looking at mods
Lyinginbedmon: Solar is very efficient but you need batteries to really get the most out of it, which needs oil processing
innovativemethods: with kovarex you can mine out so much uranium
Saulens181: the attacks will never stop
Fairgrim: Solar also saves on CPU since there are no moving parts
Loonatic93: The attacks don't stop and they don't stop coming.
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Crashzxs: the attacks will increase when moralle improves
rentar42: the attacks won't stop until the automated artillery system is set up (and then they will only be moved towards the outpost ;-))
GhostValv: bus is coming?
Saulens181: the attacks can reach a level of literal constant attack
Mangledpixel: !venga
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Mister_Hush: !busiscoming
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TehAmelie: and gradually they'll grow stronger. . .
GlennSeto: Oh hey, they finally added a sensible camera to Minecraft.
Sindraelyn: ashleySip ashleyHullo
Thatwasademo: I love how twitch chat just randomly brings up the CPU Meta that happens in high-level Factorio play
TheWooglie: SergeYager you need to make a bullet factory and send the bullets on belts to the guns
LathosTiran: cause james wants a car
Lithobraker: !uptime
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Loonatic93: The Biter Bus is coming and everybody's dying!
Lithobraker: damn I'm late
Sindraelyn: Rule #1 of factorio: If you don't have enough of something, double it.
Chartle: can you mine the crash site?
Loonatic93: Rule #2 You probably don't have enough of something.
innovativemethods: twitch encoding is not liking that steam
rentar42: just put some trees in, almost as good as coal
Loonatic93: Now things are really going to get broen!
Loonatic93: broken!
j0xer: coal powered car yikes
Chartle: wait cars have trunk
Chartle: did they have trunks before?
ekimekim: "Enter" to enter
Chartle: or have i been blind for all this time
Styxseus: *picks up car*
Fairgrim: I often power my first car with trees cause I'm dumb
TehAmelie: beep beep
innovativemethods: it's a warthog!
TheWooglie: PUBG
Lyinginbedmon: @Chartle They've had trunks since pre-nuclear at least
SeiichiSin: You guys totally need repair kits.
Thatwasademo: now would be a good time to learn how repair kits work
Solid_Fuel: Repairpacks needed
Thatwasademo: since you don't want to be constantly building new cars
niccus: maybe zoom out a little
Chartle: i may be blind
Thisbymaster: Tank controls
creasehearst: the controls are terrible
rentar42: I can't believe how hillarious it is to watch someone experience Factorio for the first time.
TheNerdWonder: Someone fetch Beej!
Mithgar: If you put bullets in, Serge can shoot
creasehearst: nope
rentar42: Nah, the uranium is PROBABLY fine ...
niccus: it's fine
an_asp: You're already in some kind of suit it's probably fine
ekimekim: this game doesn't last long enough that your long-term cancer chance matters
innovativemethods: circle strafe!
rentar42: do you have repair kits with you? you should!
JDogg2K4: This is factorio?
Chartle: get some repair paks
TheWooglie: who brought the repair kit?
creasehearst: the worms have longer reach than your car
lawful_neutral_wizard: Zoom out
Thisbymaster: there are repair packs
Chartle: oh my god it is almost dead
ekimekim: you can craft a repair pack
rentar42: James: very< little ammo
Mister_Hush: You're outta good bullets
TheWooglie: ran out of red bullets
TehAmelie: what did One Piece teach us about our adventuring vessels?
rentar42: DO NOT DRIVE!
an_asp: James punched that base to death
rentar42: REPAIR FIRST
LathosTiran: make repair packs
an_asp: Amazing
creasehearst: james really needs to use the zoom function more
Loonatic93: Car is going to diein crash.
Danath_bym: UL
Chartle: don't crash into anything
innovativemethods: @tehamelie that you can be a pirate even if you can't swim?
Thatwasademo: make repair packs
Lyinginbedmon: You can hit cliff rocks or water coasts without taking damage
creasehearst: that's fuel james
LadyAiluros: zoomy car
ekimekim: that's fuel, not health
TheWooglie: that was fuel
rentar42: that's fuel, not health!
Chartle: thats fuel
LathosTiran: thats it fuel
Styxseus: Htats not the health :D
Thatwasademo: that bar was fuel
Thatwasademo: also please, please, make and use a repair pack
TheWooglie: ooh choo
niccus: it's fine, it's a disposable car
Lord_ZYRK: f r o o t f r o o t
ekimekim: you need to make a cargo wagon to get in
Alness49: Is he Gromitting the train?
Solid_Fuel: more wagons!!
ekimekim: you can get in cargo wagons
an_asp: You can get in cargo wagons
creasehearst: now is a good time to show them that you can get run over by trains
niccus: who gets the privilege to be the first one run over by a train
SnackPak_: donk!
cpomery: Hey Guys!
Solid_Fuel: you can sit a rip
TheWooglie: didn't buy corners
rentar42: and this is where you learn that cliffs are bad.
rentar42: Explosions!
Fairgrim: demo the clifs
Lord_Hosk: a wall... must have been hosk
Thatwasademo: do you have cliff explosives yet
ekimekim: there are no train tunnels, much to everyone's chagrin
TehAmelie: ironically, Turner's great nemesis would turn out to be. . .turning
Chartle: you don't really need tunnels tbh
niccus: tracks are deathtraps
Thatwasademo: ooh diagonal
rentar42: Factorio is very satisfactory!
Styxseus: Oh, I have been building tracks the wrong way, clearly
ekimekim: no, but it means you need to do intersections, which are hell
innovativemethods: where's your locomotive to go the other way?
Mister_Hush: The linemen ride the rails out to where they end, and then the train dumps
rentar42: that's almost as good as bots
MagnusCarter: Grenades for the trees!
Thatwasademo: that was so close to killing james
Mister_Hush: 'em off, until it comes back for the shift change.
TehAmelie: how does pollution look now?
Dumori: Then it became Navi simulator
matufin0: nature is in the way of progress again
Thatwasademo: please by the end of the stream let james die to a train collision
cpomery: who needs green mana ?
GlennSeto: Did Serge find another planet to mercilessly stripmine?
Fairgrim: bets on time before someone get hit by their own train?
Bengineering: Here I am excited for a James and Fugi stream, and SERGE is here too?
Lyinginbedmon: Bonus Serge!
Dog_of_Myth: Quick, call Captain Planet.
Mister_Hush: Shotguns make clearing the forest way easier btw
ekimekim: for these kinds of forests, grenades help a ton
Stoffern: working on the railroad
cpomery: Hey @Bengineering :)
Styxseus: This is amazing xD
lawful_neutral_wizard: Just like the devs intended
TheWooglie: it's just Hell on Wheels the game
TehAmelie: oh, that's what shotguns are for
niccus: i think i settled on grenades for forests
creasehearst: this would go so much faster if they had a few stacks of grenades
Saulens181: yay, now Ben can help Serge and James destroy the environment!
Crashzxs: WTB Flamethrower Kappa
Thisbymaster: and they wonder why the bugs attack
rentar42: the real enemies in factorio are not the biters, it's the trees!
innovativemethods: flamethrower works good here
Mithgar: There's a scene from Ferngully that reminds me of this
rentar42: grenades work great
MafCallow: Research flamethrowers!
Lyinginbedmon: Grenades are definitely the best for clearing forests
Lyinginbedmon: Tanks a close second
Archonic_Energy: flame thower ftw.
drfox17: is this esseintially them building the trans continental railway?
Chartle: in the mean time, slave labour
cpomery: this reminds me of some of the custom game modes from AOE 2
Thatwasademo: if you press the c key you can shoot things that aren't biters
Electrodyne: Just got off work. How many Science Per Minute are they up to?
Thatwasademo: this includes trees
NovaTiempo: Now you just need a convoy of 3 cars driving by filming RoadQuest 2 - Alien Worlds
priestofzentu: james you can build grenades
drfox17: dynamie and my ancestors
an_asp: Poison Capsules, just need some agent orange
Solid_Fuel: nukes and artillery are cool. but flamethrowers is the way to clear forests :D
Loonatic93: The best way to clear trees is with construction bots.
Corqren: Just don't burn the forest
Arclight_Dynamo: Fun historical fact: When they went to hit the last spike on the CPR... they missed. :D
Bengineering: kevin
Laurence72: Yes, let's really hammer home how much we are attacking the environment by using weapons to clear trees :P
creasehearst: flamethrowers still leave scorched trees left
NovaTiempo: F
lawful_neutral_wizard: PLEASE put this segment in the stream highlight video
Dog_of_Myth: HAHAH
SnackPak_: F
Blasteg: oof
Lyinginbedmon: Cars are the only vehicle that has trouble with forests
Telarra_: F
rentar42: That's an achievement!
Styxseus: :D
GhostValv: D:
UlranQentba: F
Lord_Hosk: LOL
Chartle: LULL
Lord_ZYRK: Bad luck :)
TheWooglie: Cheevo
Thisbymaster: lol
Chartle: LUL
TheWooglie: LUL
Corqren: The train heard you talking shit
SmithKurosaki: F
Thatwasademo: THERE WE GO
BusTed: Oops whoops.
innovativemethods: YES
Ashton: :D :D :D
cpomery: gandalf the car
an_asp: I've been waiting so long for this...
Banather: I was waiting for that
CaptainSpam: Cheevo!
Danath_bym: LUL
josh___something: F
Aeriic: LUL
Lizardman175: wondering how long that would take
Krokaar: nice cheevo
Nevermore_Painting_Studio: F
Wiliart: Off course it would happen to James
korvys: benginRip benginRip benginRip
GlennSeto: Different game, same highlight reel.
Stoffern: come back and get him
AgentMagicMaster: lrrJAMES_SQ
Stoffern: the trains fast
Veggiekeks: is this a jlrrFall ?
GoblinRanger: in, under same diff
ekimekim: just build a second train
creasehearst: the car is by the iron mine
Lyinginbedmon: Inb4 train runs over car
TheWooglie: repair matilda
Thatwasademo: that's a fall, yes
delta__vee: to be fair, there were no tracks there at the time KappaRoss
rentar42: repair her first, she's in a bad state
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niccus: you're a true factorio gamer now, james
LathosTiran: matilda needs healing
Thisbymaster: repair
Saulens181: @LoadingReadyRun Repair Matilda First!!
Mister_Hush: MATILDA!!
Lord_Hosk: LOL
Thatwasademo: please repair your dang car
MafCallow: The itchy lot?
rentar42: F
Lord_ZYRK: 👏
Danath_bym: LOL
Bengineering: JAMES
creasehearst: and carr gone
GhostValv: D:
cpomery: MATILDA!
Chartle: LUL
jindraxsis: rip car
asddsa28: LUL LUL LUL LUL
SnackPak_: lrrWOW
Arclight_Dynamo: HAHAHAHA
underhill33: HA
SquareDotCube: HAHAHAHA
sivakrytos: dying to a train is a bit of a rite of passage
ChekhovsCannon: lmao
Thatwasademo: you didn't repair the car
GlennSeto: Don't tell them, James!
Dumori: lrrCOW
GhostValv: jlrrBreak
cpomery: ahahha Carr go BOOM
GlennSeto: :D
SquareDotCube: JAMES
drfox17: this entire 5 minute sequence has been ecellent
Dog_of_Myth: Blow it all up!!
RomanGoro: Last night we were talking about how this game, by being 2D would not have any jlrrFall and I said that James could get overrrun by trains and here we are
lawful_neutral_wizard: lrrFINE
SeiichiSin: So good. So good.
ekimekim: come on james-y, make a locomotive 🎝
CaptainSpam: Sure wish we could see this madness. :-P
rentar42: don't forget the blackjack and hookers
an_asp: Train crash coming up...
Juliamon: We don't need falls to flatten James
Fairgrim: did we miss someone getting run over by a train?
TehAmelie: will you fuse the trains?
SnackPak_: I'm glad this game has plenty of slapstick opportunities
Arclight_Dynamo: I see how this is going to end. :D
Electrodyne: Well there's the problem: "almost"
chrono2x: This is a train wreck in the making.... literally
drfox17: If James is in a northbound train traveling 10 KM/hr
drfox17: and Fugi is in a southboud train travelin 15 km/hr
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drfox17: when the collide, will anyone live?
niccus: one will live
Styxseus: Double.. trains?
Lord_Hosk: I heard dont wait for serge
SnackPak_: sergeJustRight
Lyinginbedmon: Later you can put howitzers on trains
cpomery: could you set up some auto turrets there ?
TheWooglie: where the corpse?
lawful_neutral_wizard: This is the best thing I've seen all week.
Styxseus: :D
TehAmelie: Brick, where did you get a handgrenade?
niccus: i sort of wish serge brought another locomotive and plows into the other train
TheNerdWonder: Grenades are fun to use for logging
TehAmelie: i feel like traveling by a whole train should give you room for some spare ammo
CaptainSpam: I believe history will show James very well CAN die four times in one stream. Kppa
Frizzik: James 'no ammo' Turner
Wiliart: And another big hive to the NE, this gonna be great.
Saulens181: pay attention to the acid on the ground james!
Mister_Hush: If Serge has any turrets on hand, those can help deal with the spawns so you can just run in and out hitting buildings
innovativemethods: you can shoot I think
Solid_Fuel: i think you can shoot
Dog_of_Myth: So what are the odds of James dying again?
TheWooglie: maybe shoot the worms first?
niccus: you can get some fish and use that as a health source
GlennSeto: !uptime
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an_asp: Save the fish!
rentar42: you might wanna build some repair tools, I've got a feeling they might come in handy
TheWooglie: Payback
dweebert91: Snerge
mowdownjoe: Damnit, Snerge.
TheAinMAP: guyjudgeTrain
TheNerdWonder: Now reverse!
josh___something: is there pvp?
Saulens181: @josh___something yes!
josh___something: uh oh
Thatwasademo: is it repair packs
Frizzik: pvt, player versus train
Solid_Fuel: point and press c
ekimekim: josh___something: kinda. there engine has good support for pvp game modes but the devs don't include any by default. there's tons of mods tho
Thatwasademo: c shoots anything
Wiliart: Mexican stand off
orbitaltuna: why're they killing each other?
an_asp: So many casings
Thatwasademo: c works exactly like spacebar except that spacebar only works if you're targeting a biter
Frizzik: why not?
Thatwasademo: iirc
mowdownjoe: Moar DAKKA!
SkunkyBlitz: James when fighting biters: I HAVE NO AMMO. James when fighting Serge: I HAVE SO MUCH AMMO
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TheWooglie: steal his stuff
Saulens181: take his stuff!
Archonic_Energy: loot the corpse
innovativemethods: tier 2 armor
TehAmelie: can we make that whole fight a highlight?
Styxseus: The most anticlimactic standoff xD
Electrodyne: It's the difference between Tier 1 and Tier 2 gamers
randus2003: Claim his lot
Solid_Fuel: he is probably making grenades
Blasteg: what happened to your red science
Lord_Hosk: are knees weak?
Chartle: are your arms spaghetti?
josh___something: Factorio o clock?
an_asp: Belts spaghetti
Fairgrim: next time robots?
chrono2x: Serge, what is your opinion of this vs Satisfactory?
TehAmelie: Factorin Fun?
CaptainSpam: I like how your character sprite's movement isn't synced with the conveyor belt's animation.
JDogg2K4: Looks like you have a jam somewhere
SmithKurosaki: factorio clock?
TotallyNotaBeholder: The beginning of a factorio amusement park?
RomanGoro: For those who saw this game today for the first time, the tutorial scenario takes you well trough the first tier or so of this game
SmithKurosaki: nice
innovativemethods: <3 it singleplayer
niccus: nice
rentar42: you can just build over a belt to change it's direction, no need to delete first
TehAmelie: you could even put some decoration in the middle
rentar42: or rotate it in-place (I forgot the key, though, it's muscle memory)
Alephred: Is .. that a penis?
TheWooglie: you can
an_asp: It's in every direction, serge!
rentar42: you can repair stuff, just build repair kits
an_asp: Also you should have repair kits
Thatwasademo: you literally can repair things
an_asp: In military?
Lord_Hosk: It goes a lot farther with a track
Thatwasademo: and chat has been asking you to this entire time
ekimekim: try making a train track circlwe
ekimekim: *circle
Telarra_: combat tab
Thatwasademo: in the combat tab
rentar42: under production
Telarra_: oh, they moved it to the second tab?
GlennSeto: @ekimekim For time travel? :D
LathosTiran: production tab, top left item
rentar42: the top thing
Crashzxs: its in the top row of production tab
Thatwasademo: oh wait yeah it's in production I was wrong
Thatwasademo: top item there
Thatwasademo: anyway good stream
Solid_Fuel: there is also a search in the crafting
GlennSeto: Could thank subs while Fugi tinkers.
Saulens181: MANY MANY MODS
creasehearst: there are so many mods
Serifina: DID SOMEONE SAY MODS?!@
Saulens181: seablock ftw
Thatwasademo: there are mods
rentar42: Factorio in a nutshell: "Oh god, there are mods?"
Solid_Fuel: there is sooooooo many mods
Wiliart: about 2300
innovativemethods: modded *factorio*
Telarra_: this is what happens when you have AN ACTUAL MODDING API
lord_wertornion: to make it even harder!
niccus: of very varying sizes and qualities
Wiliart: At least, I think that's the amount the devs mentioned in the last Friday Factorio Facts
Serifina: (I literally loaded the stream and the first thing I heard is "there are mods?")
lord_wertornion: at least that is how I play mostly
ekimekim: dependencies, this isn't a mod list it's a full package manager
rentar42: just install angels and bobs, it's fine ...
Chartle: how does an electric boiler work for generating power 🤔
Solid_Fuel: you can play in creative mode
Thatwasademo: RSO makes worldgen different in a way that people who like trains in factorio like
Thatwasademo: e.g. more spread out resource patches that are larger
Serifina: Now I have to try Factorio.
MafCallow: The bad guys are the players. Let's be clear.
hamishian: thanks guys
ekimekim: thanks for your expert teeth
rentar42: The bad guys are the trees.
Telarra_: RSO makes resource nodes bigger, but further between, but also evenly spaced, which is optimal for huge train bases
Electrodyne: It's a lot of fun
LordZarano: The *good* guys are bitters
RealGamerCow: I think I still like Satisfactory better. Personally.
Stoffern: lrrHEART
TehAmelie: thanks for the stream
an_asp: I love that satisfactory was able to find a distinct direction that suits different interests
tapdancingbeavers: Thanks for the stream
airwindows: This was delightful :)
an_asp: It would be sad if it just played like a factorio clone, and it doesn't
Solid_Fuel: yes!
Chartle: yes!'
lord_wertornion: YES!
fubargames: Satisfactory sometimes has me stop and just enjoy the beautiful planet.
airwindows: Hell yeah!
Solid_Fuel: moar plizz
innovativemethods: yes!
asddsa28: yesss
Chartle: just make a slot for just factorio :D
lord_wertornion: There is a reason why I have 1100 hours in this game
airwindows: For watching it's every bit as good as modded Minecraft, but different
MafCallow: In theory, you can 'complete' Factorio in about 8hrs
chrono2x: kathle3HEX kathle3HEX kathle3HEX
Chartle: i like factorio over modded mc because there's much more of an overview of your systems
Fairgrim: I feel like they barely even started since they haven't made it to oil
GlennSeto: Thanks for the stream! :)
RiiiisDK: bai iiiiiiii
airwindows: Very cool
Awaiko: Thank you!
Styxseus: Thanks so much for the stream <3 This was great :D
Mox_Hagdorm: !next
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GlennSeto: Really good music too.
airwindows: Very on brand for this
Earthenone: !advice
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LordZarano: !quote
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