cephallope: Conceding is always an option
ninja_theory_ashrams: "the only winning move is not to play"
twintarantella: just play quick 4Head
itsr67: well
itsr67: mummy is discounted
itsr67: so you're good
TheWarbo: you can anyway, Monument makes it cheaper
twintarantella: autotapped out lmao
RunningMonkeys: auto tapper why
FaustianHero: auto tapper detects you're most likely to need green
itsr67: autotapper is very blind to discounts
Ukon_Cairns: yeah, autotapper really likes you having that forest up with a hand full of black and white cards
Ukon_Cairns: not the first time its done that
itsr67: 5 mana 4 bodies
TwitchTVsFrank: why would tapper leave up forest with 0 green cards in hand jlrrFacepalm
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dividesBy0: shuffler would just deny the autotapper and lands
TheWarbo: why not just double-block?
itsr67: sounds kinda fine
TheWarbo: oh righ
TheWarbo: that's how first strike works
TheWarbo: i understand how the rules work in richard garfield's magic the gathering
itsr67: getting an extra body with every creature spell is nice
twintarantella: aww man, I forgot about Sand Strangler
twintarantella: what a nifty card
itsr67: w e l p
FaustianHero: we also have the unstoppable forest
TwitchTVsFrank: forest is a good card
cephallope: Forest can be used for many things
Wrexadecimal: One could even say it's an evergreen card lrrBEEJ
BTC1220: Hey look black got enchantment removal
SmashTCG: Or land
itsr67: dinger
baskwalla: Thanks Adam and James
seth_erickson: thanks for the stream
TwitchTVsFrank: no
5th_person: keep the land in hand
PixelArtDragon: It's still prizes
Hazey12_5: TwitchUnity TwitchUnity TwitchUnity
Wrexadecimal: yes
Wrexadecimal: correct
TwitchTVsFrank: yeah apple 2 gs
cephallope: Carrion my wayward son
PixelArtDragon: "Cycling" back, eh? I see what you did there
SnackPak_: sergeHi
SnackPak_: lrrSIGNAL
FenrisSchafer: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
DiscordianTokkan: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL ... Or not
SnackPak_: Hold...
DiscordianTokkan: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
FenrisSchafer: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL ?
LadyAiluros: So hype for this!
SnackPak_: As a person with a Model M that could use the bolt mod, this stream is somewhat relevant to me
LadyAiluros: Model M is a sweet as hell keybaord
Wrexadecimal: Finally get to watch Ian work on the keyboard that I didn't know was busted when I got it! :P
Baldrash: The bolt mod's actually not too bad. I did it on my Model M SSK a while back.
LadyAiluros: hey we tried
Wrexadecimal: @LadyAiluros Oh we did.
LadyAiluros: i have a ROM01 chip on the way to upgrade my ROM)) GS
LadyAiluros: ROM00
Wrexadecimal: Speaking of upgrades I really need to install the terraonion DC mod. >_>
Wrexadecimal: Need to pick up an SD card and extender cable too though. :P
Wrexadecimal: I see the Apple II >:D
TacitusVigil: Hello Ian. Hello Compy.
DiscordianTokkan: Hello background computer friend! It's been a long time since I've seen one of those..!
LadyAiluros: KansasFest <3
Wrexadecimal: I was right. I said see you in Kansasfest 2021. :P
TacitusVigil: On-line...?
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LadyAiluros: Niiice
LadyAiluros: ROM 01
Wrexadecimal: er, 2020. lol.
LadyAiluros: or ROM 00
LadyAiluros: did you take the battery out?
Wrexadecimal: There's a swappable ROM card you can get for it I believe
Kerrisis: Expect battery leakage and blown caps.
TacitusVigil: Are we going to get an explanation for our guest, Juan Valdez? ;)
LadyAiluros: mostly Wrex :P
mercano82: Can you swap the ROMs to something newer, or are there other hardware constraints on the early run?
Wrexadecimal: Yeah, I did all the work, Lady hung out and did her own thing while we worke don stuffs. :P
Wrexadecimal: We were both very productive, haha
LadyAiluros: offered advice and tools
LadyAiluros: M and arrow
Wrexadecimal: That too, yes
Wrexadecimal: Key puller helped
LadyAiluros: no, this is the taiwaniese one :(
LadyAiluros: sowey
Wrexadecimal: I just reached for the one that looked the leats banged up but i think they were all TW
Driosenth: I'll stick with my 32 year old Model M
LadyAiluros: also check dat CMOS bettery on the MoBo of that GS
Wrexadecimal: manokaOof seabatYIKES
mercano82: The cool thing about the ADB keyboard is it supports left handed mouse. There are two ADB sockets, one on either side, but they aren't inherently in or out. You can plug the computer into the left and the mouse into the right, or the mouse into the left and the computer into the right.
LadyAiluros: it CAN be but it is not for sure
LadyAiluros: depents on the pinout
Wrexadecimal: *plugs S-video cable into keyboard and into TV, starts typing* lrrBEEJ
LadyAiluros: they pop off fairly easily
itomeshi: You could always 3d-print a key puller :)
LadyAiluros: I did my GS KB without one
LadyAiluros: oooh toys?
Wrexadecimal: Nono, it was hecked up when I got it for ya braddeLUL
LadyAiluros: ^
LadyAiluros: ooops
LadyAiluros: s'okay
Wrexadecimal: Yeah, that's significantly less yellowed
Driosenth: aged or beiged?
Wrexadecimal: slicing an apple lrrBEEJ
mercano82: I have to say, I love Apple tech from this era and have been looking forward to this episode since it was on the schedule last time
Master_Gunner: keyboard repair is a fun hobby... but I have enough keyboards as it is now
LadyAiluros: JavMaster is the RetroBrite God
DiscordianTokkan: D'aww
Wrexadecimal: @mercano82 you and me both!
DoodlestheGreat: Hey, Cori!
offbeatwitch: is "whatever house ian lives in" technically *the* Tiltyhouse
LadyAiluros: @mercano82 COME TO KANASFEST WITH US
Wrexadecimal: Also I'll be keeping you in mind when I finally get my terraonion dreamcast mod installed, Ian. :P
DiscordianTokkan: I don't think I'd heard, where had you gone Ian (if you're comfortable saying; you mentioned stuff needed unpacking)?
control_rig: Is that a capital P "Plans"
Driosenth: Oh man, getting google results in terminal interface would be weird
control_rig: Hurry before Paul's electric shock gets you
LadyAiluros: it's super fun
LadyAiluros: i've done it using my //c as a dumb termial with getty
Wrexadecimal: lrrIAN lrrCORI
baskwalla: Bonus Cori!
Wrexadecimal: When I get space and find one, I'm getting a Tandy CoCo 3
LadyAiluros: I will send you a link to how I did it
Pterodactal: Dammit Ian, I've already added this stream to the wiki page and usually use the tweet as the summary
itomeshi: What's on the back of Ian's screwdriver?
LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> Going live with Tinker Tailor Solder Fry, right now! We are working with some vintage Apple IIgs hardware. 🎦 http://twitch.tv/LoadingReadyRun 📷 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef50PRGU0AUJ5sU.jpg || https://www.twitter.com/loadingreadyrun/status/1296601554573647872
control_rig: Man, I'm so not knowledgeable about this kind of stuff, but it's so IMPRESSIVE to me. Like: "Human minds built that".
Wrexadecimal: I don't remember the EM shield being that banged up. O:
LadyAiluros: RF shields bit. My GS cut me the frist time I had it apart
Pterodactal: Yeah, that is what I used
Wrexadecimal: Truth!
LadyAiluros: We weren't worried about that
LadyAiluros: we were worried about the plastic
control_rig: Glue?
LadyAiluros: prolly
mercano82: That dent kind of looks like the screw around it was over tightened.
LadyAiluros: these were not as well done as the Japanese ones
absorbedtulip9: Hey! I was trying to explain to my brother-in-law about the wood you burn to give your drink a Smokey flavor. Did the wood for that have a special name? I remember you said it was from Lowe’s
control_rig: *Audible Honk Noise*
Wrexadecimal: lrrHORN
SFSMaus: :L
TacitusVigil: We're planking?
control_rig: I don't think they have the WhoseAmaWhatsIt chain outside of Canada
absorbedtulip9: Thank you!
Wrexadecimal: oooh.
control_rig: Oooooh
LadyAiluros: oooooooh
Wrexadecimal: powerfist? seabatTROG
Masslost: fun fact at my old job i was clearing out old hard drives and i found a apple hard drive buried in the pile
TheWriterAleph: Just showed up and got a big dose of nostalgia. My first PC was a Mac Classic, where I learned and fell in love with programming, game design, and desktop publishing. That keyboard looks VERY familiar LUL
DiscordianTokkan: Yessss
aerohydra: good old princess auto
SFSMaus: lrrWOW
absorbedtulip9: Sorry for off topic just he was telling me about different drinks he had tried and so I thought I would tell him about what you showed that one episode way back lol
Wrexadecimal: @TheWriterAleph I'm pretty sure I used a similar machine in either grade school or computer camp. :P
DoodlestheGreat: POWERTHIRST!
LadyAiluros: I have a Mac Plis upstairs, it's a super fun little machine
control_rig: Spoilers!
itomeshi: Dang it Ian, now you have me looking at ES121 screwdrivers. Good job.
RandomTrivia: Evening everyone, glad I made it for my favourite educational ASMR stream
TheWriterAleph: I wish I still had it but I'm pretty sure my parents got rid of it years ago
Wrexadecimal: @TheWriterAleph I'm sorry to hear ;_;
LadyAiluros: yeah I got a //c at KFest to replace the one dad sold after we were done with it
Texan_Reverend: Aw shucks, what's the fun in having all of the tools and support you need already setup?
mercano82: Hold shift on power up if you need to access the extension cord manager
Wrexadecimal: The //c is a cute little machine
LadyAiluros: it really is
LadyAiluros: the Snow White is an amazing look
LadyAiluros: the Scribe is cool as heck and I kinda want one
2Flower: I had a //c as a kid. That disk drive as terrifyingly loud and scronky.
LadyAiluros: @2Flower you should hear the OG Disk ][
TacitusVigil: I was just thinking, since COVID has resulted in LRR streaming a lot from home, shouldn't the home "studios" have nicknames? Should Ian's be the Horner Module? The Zeon Studio?
HomerowCo: open, desolder, crack open switches, ultra sonic them in IPA, lube the rails with superlube grease, close, done :D
LadyAiluros: It's the Crystal Gondola
LadyAiluros: you can get those cheap
HomerowCo: you need to get a zd-915 :)
TacitusVigil: Thanks for the HyperParkour @sacrenos
Wrexadecimal: I assume it's some sort of reference?
LadyAiluros: but yeah I can prolly connect you with an IW2
HomerowCo: and some flux, that old solder might be hard to get off
LadyAiluros: they come up a lot in the trade groups
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mercano82: The studio name carried over through the move?
TeacherSeanTV: teache17Oreo teache17Oreo teache17Oreo teache17Oreo
KarnEvil: those good vintage solder fumes. the lead really keeps your lungs feeling slick
Pterodactal: OPEN YOUR MIND
Texan_Reverend: Ian, do you have any interest in larger scale projects like working on a full home build? Framing, building science, or some of the building's systems?
xantos69: Thanks for the HyperGravity @stripe_dog
xantos69: Thanks for the HyperSlam @bladinus
Texan_Reverend: Building science is a subject I enjoy, and building my own home is an eventual goal of mine.
robert97dj: Those keyboards sound so good
robert97dj: That clicking from back in the day
Wrexadecimal: Custom firmware only did so much to boost it? Or just worn out from usage?
Lord_ZYRK: "Hello, and welcome to the first episode in the new TTSF series on buildings! Today we're starting our steel-framed building, which means of course that we need materials, the most important of which will be the steel. So I'm glad you're all joining me as we prospect for some iron ore."
LadyAiluros: now that just sounds like Mine o'Clock
Wrexadecimal: Ahh.
Lord_ZYRK: So TTSF with special guests James and Rebelllious Uno? Kappa
Wrexadecimal: ZXCVBNM
LadyAiluros: M
Lord_ZYRK: It was M
LadyAiluros: b/s I remember playing with it
Wrexadecimal: M. :P
LadyAiluros: at KFest before we sent it
SnackPak_: lrrGOAT
RandomTrivia: Oh goodbye M
Pterodactal: yeet the m key
Wrexadecimal: Yeah, that's how we found out, hahah.
LadyAiluros: I wonder if this KB has been futzed with before?
Wrexadecimal: @LadyAiluros Aside from when Sark worked his magic on it, good question
LadyAiluros: Join us IRL in 20201
LadyAiluros: 2021
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: I'm looking forward then to Ian driving poles, the old way
Wrexadecimal: And I was right Ian, I did ask if I'd see you at Kfest 2020 and I sure did :P
LadyAiluros: heehee
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: Old fashion piledriving is interesting
Dish_KP: what's that wick thing do?
LadyAiluros: sucks up solder
Lord_ZYRK: Soaks up the solder once it metls
Lord_ZYRK: melts*
Dish_KP: sweet!
Wrexadecimal: I saw this one amazing custom keyboard and i wish I saved the pic of it
DentedPockets: Ian going to go full Qwerty
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Wrexadecimal: Wrong key!? manokaOof seabatYIKES
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doctorjkl: wait, wasn't it the M key that was the problem? or did i mishear that?
LadyAiluros: the M and Right Arrow seize
doctorjkl: but did Ian just remove the comma?
TacitusVigil: Does this make Ian a....keynote speaker? Kappa
sacrenos: Cool the burn?
Phrawger: oh noooo
LadyAiluros: yeah there's really not even NOS of this stuff anymore, people are trying to make replancement with modern tech like 3D printing and such
Juliamon: It's not a good electronics project if you don't burn yourself on the soldering iron at least once.
LadyAiluros: ^
doctorjkl: D:
TacitusVigil: We can't get excited. We must stay comma.
LadyAiluros: nice one, @TacitusVigil
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: Ian, just all of him
jeepless: Extra practice in both removal and replacement!
Driosenth: time to grab a multimeter?
doctorjkl: lrrFINE
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: From, the old Injury Polls
LadyAiluros: oh crap
TacitusVigil: @LadyAiluros Ok, I'll stop now. :D
LadyAiluros: OFF BY ONE
Mr_Dirty: I, for one, don't feel we need a comma, on a keyboard
RandomTrivia: LUL
LadyAiluros: PEBCAK errors
TacitusVigil: There are 10 types of people. People who know binary and people who don't.
Wrexadecimal: @TacitusVigil the classic
TacitusVigil: An oldie but a goody.
Entrop1kk: There are two types of people, those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
oceat: I just logged on and this is my first time on this stream
Wrexadecimal: @oceat welcome!
oceat: are we trying to attach the orange to the silver
oceat: thanks! :)
mercano82: There are 10 types of people: those that understand binary, those who do not, and those that make jokes in base 3.
sacrenos: working on reading excel files in .NET Core. System.Data is a horrible namespace that should just go back to the early 2000's
Wrexadecimal: Nope, desoldering a key switch froma. keyboard
doctorjkl: no, we are trying to remove the silver from the other silver
Kerrisis: If you're having problems wicking off the solder, a small blob of fresh solderr on the joint may help.
Kerrisis: As would a decent soldering iron... :P
LadyAiluros: no the orange is soaking up the silver to remove the piece on the other side
oceat: oh!!
oceat: interesting
Wrexadecimal: Got a backup soldering iron just in case?
LadyAiluros: you need one of these cool solder/desolder stations
LadyAiluros: with the temp control and stuff
Wrexadecimal: Yeeees
Driosenth: do you have a solder sucker?
DentedPockets: On the next episode of TTSF: Repairing a soldering iron.
LadyAiluros: the braid is supposed to replace a solder sucker
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: Solder, because it is written that way. :p
RandomTrivia: It is important to both be *and* own the correct kind of tool for your work
Wrexadecimal: Got there! wrexadDAB
LarkSachrosis: Does one need a soldering iron to repair a soldering iron lrrBEEJ
Wrexadecimal: @LarkSachrosis I was thinking it too... >_>
LadyAiluros: you laugh my dad has a soldering gun, i've used it
Driosenth: I have never had good luck with the braids
LadyAiluros: if you want to see big
oceat: is solder a word with french origin?
Silkseb: in french we use the verb souder
mercano82: Do you want to hook the new switch up to a multimeter before you solder it?
62MGcobra: where is the known bad spot? thrown across the room?
Silkseb: we say it more like sou-they (as in sous-vide and they)
Texan_Reverend: One has a great many ideas about how things are going to go before the cameras start rolling.
Texan_Reverend: And then...
LadyAiluros: no stream survives first contact with Twitch
Silkseb: yeup
LadyAiluros: nice join
Kerrisis: Nice joints.
oceat: does surface tension make it form the nice conical shape itself?
LadyAiluros: no no I got it
LadyAiluros: it's been a long week D
Texan_Reverend: And then bang someone on the head with a soldering iron.
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: Ouch
GreayStone: It's funny because we say so
Lord_ZYRK: LadyAiluros I'll do you one better than a soldering gun. I've used these bad boys https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/antique-soldering-iron-floating-on-white-yopedro.jpg
LadyAiluros: NIIIICE
SFSMaus: May your liquid always be METAL!
SFSMaus: \M/
LadyAiluros: yeah the ALPS have a lot more wear
Wrexadecimal: YEEEES
Wrexadecimal: oop, caps.
LadyAiluros: oh wow yeah I remember those
DeMeched: I was gone so long we're now on a whole other stream 0.o
Tarnagona: My first computer as a kid was an Apple IIgs. I don't really remember anything about the keyboard, though, but I was, like, ten years old, so I just didn't notice these things.
LadyAiluros: pleaseworkpleasework
alasd: Hey, you've got the SMK-made M0330, very neat
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LadyAiluros: google it
LadyAiluros: that's what we always do at KFest :P
Tarnagona: I mostly used that computer to play text adventures, because, again, I was ten years old. XD
Texan_Reverend: Left, right, down, up.
Pterodactal: "When I was younger than I am now" As opposed to when you were older than you are now?
LadyAiluros: yes, you ahve to pop them out to retrobrite
LadyAiluros: they will fade
Wrexadecimal: ^
LadyAiluros: it takes forever tho
LadyAiluros: No no no never wrap
Wrexadecimal: Yeah, it takes a whole sunny day's worth of exposure
Wrexadecimal: And yeah, don't wrap
Wrexadecimal: it clumps
LadyAiluros: wrapping = streaks
Wrexadecimal: or streaks rather
Anaerin: There's the 8-bit-guy's method (Put it in a rubbermaid tub, fill with H2O2, leave in the sun all day).
LadyAiluros: we know the RetroBrite King
Pterodactal: And zoom out again?
LadyAiluros: oxyclean and saloncare 40, and a little arrowroot to thicken
Wrexadecimal: ooooh the fun part.
Wrexadecimal: Well, more fun part.
LadyAiluros: paint on, let bake,
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LadyAiluros: rinse
Wrexadecimal: I'm happy to see the KB finally restored :D
LadyAiluros: repeat as needed
LadyAiluros: you can soak the keys in just perozide
LadyAiluros: Ian I am tweeting you a link to the best Retrobrite video how-to
DiscordianTokkan: A Woz signature!
LadyAiluros: TNR that GS
Wrexadecimal: Back when Apple made computers you could actually open manokaSmug
LadyAiluros: push tabs in and lift up towards teh front
LadyAiluros: check uner the power supply
Wrexadecimal: Oh yeah, the battery
LarkSachrosis: Sure is Computer in here.
LadyAiluros: make sure CMOS is not aspolded
Wrexadecimal: looks clean but don't gamble it
LadyAiluros: TNR is
LadyAiluros: it
SquareDotCube: a lorge boi PSIU
SquareDotCube: PSU
LadyAiluros: LOL
Wrexadecimal: Ignore me, the dude who opened a G4 MDD PSU... >_>
RandomTrivia: no, stop come back...
Driosenth: I take "No User Serviceable Parts" as a challenge, not a warning
62MGcobra: haha bc warrior
LadyAiluros: oh I know people who mod and repair these all the time
Wrexadecimal: That's a Tadiran battery, it looks like, and not sploded?
ArdCollider: I like how often they were like "NEVER OPEN IT" and also like "just pop the case and touch it if you need to dump some static, as long as it's plugged in"
LadyAiluros: yeah get the batter out
LadyAiluros: just clip the leads
ArdCollider: at least on the II+
LadyAiluros: clip as close to the battery as you can
Driosenth: Is that power connector hot-snotted on?
LadyAiluros: not worth the risk
LadyAiluros: those are ticking time bombs
NitroGnome: lrrFINE_HF
Wrexadecimal: Battery anxiety is real. I had that with my pippin, which was NOTORIOUS for having exploding stock batteries
LadyAiluros: we found one at KFest that trashed the boards
DentedPockets: Capacitors are a hell of a thing.
LadyAiluros: you can get kits to repalce it with a battery socket
Wrexadecimal: Called it. :P
LadyAiluros: yeah you can get sockets that slot in
LadyAiluros feels way better
LadyAiluros has seen .... things ...
Wrexadecimal: So many acid leaked boards...
ArdCollider: my parents still have my II+ and a bunch of disks and it's a constant low-level source of existential dread for me
LadyAiluros: you can get 4 MB and 8 MB cards for it
Electrodyne: We gonna play some WOLFENSTEIN or OREGON TRAIL team?
Wrexadecimal: ayyy the CFFA!
LadyAiluros: Heck yeah!
Wrexadecimal: I soldered the RAM card for one of those :D
LadyAiluros: I love this card!!!!
LadyAiluros: yes
LadyAiluros: slot 7 is where it wants to be, and check the manual there are dip settings for the GS specifically
DiscordianTokkan: I'm suddenly getting flashbacks to Bolo and Number Munchers
LadyAiluros: he is not making them anymore no, the parts are not available
LadyAiluros: others have come up with new solutions
Electrodyne: the "GS" stands for GREAT SCOTT
LadyAiluros: there is the BOOTI card now
LadyAiluros: and the Floppy Emu
LadyAiluros: SO MUCH HEAT
Mysticman89: it's rgb though, so fancy
SnackPak_: so much glass in them
RandomTrivia: That's some serious CHONK
LadyAiluros: proprietary cable
LadyAiluros: I can help you with that :P
LadyAiluros: <3 <3 <3
mercano82: Making the IIGS streamable would be a TTSF in and of itself.
LadyAiluros: may I post a link?
Juliamon: Go ahead!
LadyAiluros: twitch.tv/ladyailuros
Wrexadecimal: Yeah, she streams from a IIGS, it's EZ
LadyAiluros: @mercano82 I did a talk at Kansasfest this year, it's on the Kansasfest Youtube channnel
Electrodyne: next project: custom oak & leather case for the IIGS guts to live in
Clypheous: What are we doing today?
mercano82: Oh, you want the CyberTruck mouse.
LadyAiluros: yeah the OG mouse is a thng
Mysticman89: *squint* is our scene called "cut", or "cult"
mercano82: Or, I guess, really, the CyberTruck is an ADB Mouse I.
Mysticman89: our out maybe
LadyAiluros: yeah it is
LadyAiluros: plz plz plz
GreayStone: say the proper lithanys to the tech gods
Lord_ZYRK: *gets behind blast shield* I'm sure everything will be fine
LadyAiluros: oooooooh Steve ... .we implore you .....
LadyAiluros: 15khz flyback may interfere with the mic
Electrodyne: is there a degauss button?
LadyAiluros: other side
control_rig: *Invokes the Blessed Machine Spirit*
Wrexadecimal: ayyy wrexadDAB
ElementalAlchemist: The degauss button is excellent
LadyAiluros: apple logo side
Baldrash: lrrHORN
LadyAiluros: noice
RandomTrivia: Huzzah!
iris_of_ether: Nice lrrHORN
SFSMaus: wwwwwoooo!
Mysticman89: I loved the degauss button. I never had any idea what it really did, but it made for a neat screen qiggle at times.
LadyAiluros: contrl-reset
LadyAiluros: pr#7
control_rig: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN ! Nice
Manae: It was such a nice view
serramarkov: I've been clapping since the screen lit up!
niccus: alllllllllll
DentedPockets: ALLLLLLLLL
LadyAiluros: also there are some GS-specific settings on the CFFA
SFSMaus: wow memories
ArdCollider: (the language card cannot be reloaded/ until the system is rebooted)
LadyAiluros: it's been some time since I set mine up
ArdCollider: don't mind me, just having a flashback
Clypheous: I've got a Sperry 286/6Mhz I could mail you if you want the PC version of computer Antiques Home Show.
mercano82: Oh, yeah, I forgot about that quirk of the older Apple keyboards.
LadyAiluros: kk
ArdCollider: my II+ had some... intriguing defects on shipment back in the day. :D
Electrodyne: Y'all got any Ultima III on that bad boy
LadyAiluros: that's the most common problem
LadyAiluros: hmmm
LadyAiluros: yeah it should be instant
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SFSMaus: Hmm
LadyAiluros: ctrl-reset
ArdCollider: there was a previous mention of CFFA dip switches?
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ArdCollider: is it maybe that?
LadyAiluros: yeah it's not seeing the card
LadyAiluros: did you get the manual?
Clypheous: Does Ian have a specific goal with the computer or just to make it "work"?
LadyAiluros: also doe the M and arrow key work?
Mysticman89: ah yes, it's be awhile since using the computer as a stand for the monitor has been a thing
Clypheous: It's like being in school all over again.
Mysticman89: I guess theres no reason why modern computers couldn't also be used like that
LadyAiluros: no the case is tricky as all get out
SquareDotCube: Seeing some warp in that case
Clypheous: Oh man, the density of those boards...Holy cow...
SFSMaus: is the board fully seated?
Clypheous: I almost could get a soldering iron and replace some of those individual components.
Despoiler98: hurray its a rreal boy!
LadyAiluros: turn on GS and press M quickly to get the menu
LadyAiluros: (I have the manual up)
LadyAiluros: yes
Clypheous: Man, trying to do all this and solo filming it, I salute you Ian.
Wrexadecimal: Still? D:
Wrexadecimal: Even after the switch change?
LadyAiluros: ctrl reset and see if m works
Wrexadecimal: YES
SnackPak_: lrrHORN
LarkSachrosis: M Confirmed
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iris_of_ether: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN
Wrexadecimal: It did the thing!
Juliamon: Progress?
SFSMaus: wwwwwoooooooo
LadyAiluros: it sees the card but does not know aht yto do with is
jbrooksbsi: CTRL-OA-ESC
RandomTrivia: It did A thing?
LarkSachrosis: Progress*
LadyAiluros: yes
Clypheous: Computers doing "not what you want" but doing what you tell it is kinda their thing. :)
LadyAiluros: waht @jbrooksbsi
LadyAiluros: said
LadyAiluros: brig up the control panel
Despoiler98: When do we get to play Oregon Trail?
LadyAiluros: hmmm
jbrooksbsi: Slots
jbrooksbsi: Chk slot 7
RandomTrivia: That's almost the correct date
Clypheous: It thinks it's the future!
Despoiler98: WAIT a 2G has a MODEM SLOT??!?!?!?!
SquareDotCube: What can the IIGS tell us about the future?
Electrodyne: Maybe it's FROM the future
LadyAiluros: that's what it should be, right? @jbrooksbsi
jbrooksbsi: If CFFA3000, you should also have a CFFA menu option in the ctrl panel
LadyAiluros: comms port
jbrooksbsi: But it is missing
Electrodyne: What if future-Ian sent this computer back to himself as a message
Clypheous: What device are we trying to start it from?
RandomTrivia: Today is the 120-somethingth of March, so it's probably close enough
jbrooksbsi: so CFFA dip switch is not set properly for GS, or CFFA is not working correctly
Mysticman89: standards: yes is a cute line
niccus: wow, computers had dark mode back then
Phrawger: standards equals very yes
LadyAiluros: put on normal for 8-bit gmaes
LadyAiluros: it matters
RandomTrivia: And 60fps. Gaming hardware confirmed
LarkSachrosis: Apple does not allow you to not have standards.
Clypheous: Oh man, is the system speed for applications that would otherwise run to fast?
Vaygrim: That's 1921.
LadyAiluros: do not play Ultima on fast mode
Despoiler98: IT IS FROM THE FUTURE katesScared
Juliamon: It made an educated guess and overshot it a bit. It tried.
VmKid: I wish it was 2021 right now, TBH
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: Y2k bug
Manae: Ah, of course, USA language
omdorastrix: Does that mean that the IIGS is all that's left after whatever happens in 2020?
Wrexadecimal: Is Ian actually John Titor and the computer in question isn't an IBM but an Apple II?
LarkSachrosis: Your future self sent you a puzzle to keep you occupied.
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: This is the type of computer that had the Y2K bug
Electrodyne: Play Ultima on fast mode, beat Minax twice as fast
jbrooksbsi: If CFFA3000 is working properly, then Ctrl-OA-ESC should show a menu item with "CFFA3000 (Slot 7)"
LadyAiluros: what was the other option?
Vaygrim: That's not 2021, that's 1921.
Clypheous: The date it gives you is its prediction as to when it will be fully functional again.
RandomTrivia: So does it think it's 1921?
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: Y2K bug
LadyAiluros: no clock does not matter
LadyAiluros: mine has no idea what date it is
Despoiler98: where are the flappers and bathtub gin?
jbrooksbsi: Try moving the CFFA to slot 6?
LarkSachrosis: Moving tubes is a workout
Clypheous: Did Ian get this "new" or was this a project piece?
Wrexadecimal: manokaOof
SnackPak_: sergeOffByOne
omdorastrix: sergeOffByOne
RandomTrivia: You had one job!
Vaygrim: LOL
Mysticman89: just pretend you thought they were 0 indexed.
ameliette: i mean you tried it and it didnt want to so you went for slot 6 instead...
omdorastrix: You had 2 job. (may be off by one)
LadyAiluros: OH NOOOO
ElementalAlchemist: well, turns out you were right
Wrexadecimal: A layer 8 error manokaSmug
SFSMaus: lrrFINE
LadyAiluros: yeah it's so confooooosed
Mysticman89: (unless it is 0 indexed in which case don't evne worry about it everything is fine)
Despoiler98: that is one hell of a CRT
Clypheous: Have we had any sound yet?
jbrooksbsi: My GS has CFFA3000 in slot 5, DIP switch settings are all up except for switch 7
Electrodyne: Planet X is at 9, 9, 9, and you find the quicksword Enilo in San Antonio
Phrawger: these are honestly my favorite types of errors. funny to find, easy to fix
LadyAiluros: GOT THERE
omdorastrix: PEBKAC... I do it all the time... I just try not to do it in front of clients.. (I work in IT)
ElementalAlchemist: lrrGOAT
ArdCollider: it's _sort of_ like a controller card! slot 6 is a kind of reasonable stab at it.
Electrodyne: I'm giving out Ultima II spoilers
LadyAiluros: okay
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Despoiler98: DOH
jbrooksbsi: There are no disk images mounted in CFFA
serramarkov: clapping again!
LadyAiluros: disk ii assignments
Fruan: Fun is mandatory!
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Despoiler98: ROBOT WAR
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LadyAiluros: good choiece
LadyAiluros: boot slot 7
LadyAiluros: disck II slot 7
LadyAiluros: disk
LadyAiluros: no try now
jbrooksbsi: I think you want disk II to slot 6
Clypheous: I remember having to manually edit a driver to make it work on a computer.
LadyAiluros: YES
Wrexadecimal: WOOHOO
SnackPak_: Yo!
RandomTrivia: PridePog
LadyAiluros: oh it's this one!
ritchards: cont?
SFSMaus: lrrWOW lrrWOW lrrWOW lrrWOW lrrWOW lrrWOW lrrWOW lrrWOW
Phrawger: ahahaha
control_rig: Whoops
LadyAiluros: no
Fracaswell: Arkanoid II: Revenge of DOH
RandomTrivia: LUL
Phrawger: ian, champion of the world
Texan_Reverend: L and I just absolutely lost it cackling at that!
Wrexadecimal: yeeeeeesssss
Mysticman89: I hope it ends with "congrautlations, you win!"
Fruan: A TTSF that resulted in a working project? Impressive!
DentedPockets: Found em!
Phrawger: the alphabet song done changed since i was a youngin
Clypheous: did it miss period?
ElementalAlchemist: It looks like the period is also still there
LadyAiluros: you appear to have more issues
ritchards: up down?
Anaerin: Missing up and down?
LadyAiluros: up and down not working?
Mysticman89: gottem
Anaerin: There you go.
Phrawger: boom
ElementalAlchemist: nice
RandomTrivia: Ah the classic "fix 4 problems, find 8 more"
LadyAiluros: so they neeed to just be worked
omdorastrix: Chat... are we doing phrasing?
LadyAiluros: it's a common thing
ritchards: ESC works!
SFSMaus: !sir
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Wrexadecimal: Finally! :D
Clypheous: Oh man, it tells you the ascii values...Man, that's amazing.
ElementalAlchemist: I never thought I'd say this, but: thanks, Kansas
ritchards: Robot War!!
serramarkov: Woo-hoo! Congrats!
Phrawger: kansas is a wonderful state to be from. far from
control_rig: Robot War!
Despoiler98: extra robits is always better
Wrexadecimal: Robots you say? wrexadDAB wrexadDAB wrexadDAB
LadyAiluros: remove the keyboard tester
jbrooksbsi: 1
control_rig: Woosh
niccus: it's... sort of not a 'game' game
LadyAiluros: You need total Replay now
Phrawger: oh fascinating
jbrooksbsi: It is a programming game
Electrodyne: lrrDOTS 🤖 lrrARROW
Mysticman89: this is actually better than I would have thoughyt for 1981
adelius3: now we streamin
SnackPak_: oh neat!
Clypheous: Oh man, I remember variations of this game.
jbrooksbsi: It has a built-in code editor and debugger (called the test bench)
Despoiler98: GI JOooooooooe
control_rig: Go Gnat
Quillpaw: loading robot run
Mysticman89: was kinda figuring it was all text adventures and maybe pong and snake pre 90s
Clypheous: I don't think I ever played this one, but I sure played things like this in the 80s
jbrooksbsi: Editor controls are funky
ArdCollider: it's like a very bare-metal version of Epyx's Chipwits
jbrooksbsi: Esc & ctrl chars
control_rig: LSD indeed
SFSMaus: you escaped the programming
Wrexadecimal: Peek and poke? enigmaSmug
control_rig: Robo Rally
LadyAiluros: that's normal
Electrodyne: Ian stopped the robot takeover
LadyAiluros: you want a package called Total Replay
Clypheous: I remember making a robot war like thing in ZZT back in the day too.
LadyAiluros: it's on Archive,org
LadyAiluros: it only sees certain types of images
ArdCollider: god, 4am posts stuff from Total Replay and I'm always just blown away by it
LadyAiluros: if you got .woz it won't see them
LadyAiluros: 4am is amazing
Wrexadecimal: To put it lightly, yes.
LadyAiluros: I streamed Total Replay and it was awesome
Lord_ZYRK: So it doesn't run Doom, but there is a fan port of Wolfenstein gdqSanic
ritchards: Chivalry is... dead?
ArdCollider: (makes Chivalry spinner noise)
Wrexadecimal: Bad image?
LadyAiluros: there are a LOT of bad dump out ther e
jbrooksbsi: Many 5.25 disk images only work from slot 6
LadyAiluros: assign disk 2 to slot 6
Clypheous: Man, I have not been on Twitch in so long, there are all these new things, different sub levels, "channel points" and apparently studios are banned because everyone is broadcasting out of their houses.
LadyAiluros: then boot slot 6
Electrodyne: I had no idea what they were actually saying in Wolfenstein, but it sounded like "Halt! Old spice" to me
LadyAiluros: set 1 to slot 6
LadyAiluros: then boot slot
LadyAiluros: 6
LadyAiluros: not on last item, boot slot 6
LadyAiluros: yeah
LadyAiluros: it sees the disk but can't use it
LarkSachrosis: The exclamation point gets me.
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jbrooksbsi: CFFA needs to be moved out of slot 6 (physical)
Mysticman89: add excitement to any sentence with an exclamation mark!
LadyAiluros: crl-oa-esc
LadyAiluros: you meved the CFFA to 7, right?
Wrexadecimal: I believe it was already moved form slot 6, wasn't it?
Wrexadecimal: *from
ArdCollider: I wonder if that image is the wrong side of the Chivalry disk.
LadyAiluros: might be
ArdCollider: since ISTR it was a double
LadyAiluros: where did you get the image?
Electrodyne: hole punch gang
Wrexadecimal: I feel like it'd work then. I only nabbed a few DOS games from there myself... :P
LadyAiluros: I just tweeted you a ink to that package if you can get stuff onto the CFFA
ArdCollider: 4am did the Chivalry crack, be surprised if it didn't work. https://archive.org/details/Chivalry_rev2_4amCrack
LadyAiluros: and yeah archive.org is good -- always look for 4AM cracks
jbrooksbsi: Smartport images are mounted on slot 7
LadyAiluros: smartport is HDD images
ArdCollider: (some of you may want to sit here and play Chivalry while we sort it out)
jbrooksbsi: It looks like you had a large 16MB CFFA image that could be mounted as smartport
LadyAiluros: yeah 4AM cracks are best cracks
Mysticman89: we're fighting copy protecction from 1981? oh boy
LadyAiluros: yes we are
LadyAiluros: okay I have to go crash, I will catch you in the VOD
Mysticman89: thought ye olden games had digital wheels you had to line up and that sort of 'fun' copy protection
LadyAiluros: now that it works <3
Clypheous: Man, the video setup not showing any flicker on the CRT monitor is what amazes me.
LarkSachrosis: Play some Video Games on the Twitchdotcom
ElementalAlchemist waves
Mysticman89: er, not digital, physical paper wheels
thundercat2000: oh no..
ArdCollider: sometimes you just had to get your friend to write down all the specified words in the manual and give you the paper with your copied floppy
ArdCollider: in case your game's DRM was like "well, what's the sixth word on page 12, smart guy"
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Mysticman89: I vaguely recall memorising all the copy protection answers to something, but i don't recall what
Clypheous: Oh man Ardcollider, I remember those security things. I think the first one like that I had was Warcraft Orc and Humans.
Clypheous: The other ones I had were codewheels, or image ID.
Mysticman89: the lucasarts dial-a-pirate was fun
Clypheous: I had one for Lucas Arts. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade game.
ArdCollider: we used to have to contrive to get into my pal's dad's stash of Sierra games.
Clypheous: Holy bleeping bleep, that game is on Steam...
Clypheous: "Release date, Jul 1, 1989"
Clypheous: OK, now I want to know what the oldest game on Steam is.
Mysticman89: oh, I remember what i memorised now, it was all the battletech copy protection answers.
LarkSachrosis: See your dealer Ian
Mysticman89: crescent hawk inception if i recall
ElementalAlchemist: 3.1.1 Apple II for Workgroups?
ArdCollider: will it catalog?
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: 7?
ArdCollider: what _is_ it, is my question
TheSoundOfWhiteNoise: Wasn't the thing in slot 7?
ArdCollider: the card is in slot 7 but some games only boot on perceived slot 6
ArdCollider: that was part of the "does it maybe only work on assigned slot 6" which, maybe it doesn't.
Juliamon: Only a start.
ArdCollider: (slot 6 is where the drive controller card canonically lived)
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ritchards: Thanks for the HyperCooldown @hyperknightg
space_berry: what are we up to
ArdCollider: I, personally, am regurgitating a bunch of things I knew really well when I was 6 to try to help Ian boot a game. :D
ArdCollider: you said you had a copy of Drol too, yeah? Drol might be less bonkers than an Optimum Resource game.
ArdCollider: (I had a copy of Drol! it's at my parents' house.)
SFSMaus: is anything actually in slot 6?
Xenguin47: Such high definition! I'm amazed he got the ][gs to stream to Twitch!
Wrexadecimal: great progress though!
RandomTrivia: Playing a game for viewers on Twitch? What a novel concept.
ArdCollider: CFFA will boot 140K 2MG images, so if that's what you have, something is weird.
ArdCollider: (I dunno if there are other sizes of 2MG.)
LarkSachrosis: Interesting effect.
Wrexadecimal: Awesome seeing you get that KB up and running!
ritchards: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Play it Forward (Alex takes over the PiF airwaves to play Carrion! Game: Carrion) at Fri 11:00 AM PDT (15:55 from now).
DoodlestheGreat: See you later, Ian. Thanks for the stream.
DoodlestheGreat: Alex is finishing Carrion
Manae: Alex playing Carrion
Mysticman89: cam is done, but alex is not done
CommiePuddin: I thought we were doing some tech demo watch along for a second and was so confused.
Mysticman89: lots of meaty tendrils with alex
LarkSachrosis: Commander
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thundercat2000: night Ian
Nigouki: thanks for the stream!
SFSMaus: night ian
thundercat2000: !next
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Clypheous: Wow, they make almost $15k a month now in American?
Mysticman89: from patreon+twitch subs+youtube subs
Mysticman89: keeping in mind that goes to salary many LRR people
Clypheous: I always wonder how much money things like twitch and youtube really make people, but no one wants to just talk about how much money they make.
TStodden: The money goes to rent, utilities, equipment & salaries for about 8 people (IIRC)
Anaerin: Clypheous There are clauses in partnership agreements that say you're not allowed to talk about how much you're getting, typically.
Juliamon: LRR is about as transparent as they're able to be.
Mysticman89: peoples incomes in general tends to be a private matter and maybe it shouldn't be since who knows how many people with comparable jobs are getting wildly different amounts, but eh, so it goes
Clypheous: Yeah, I'm not a big believer in keeping incomes secret as it generally is a great way to either massively underpay people, discriminate against some group, or otherwise be a little underhanded.
fastlane250: i keep missing these ever since the first lego one lrrAWW
Clypheous: I just find it easier not to keep it secret and make the reasons clear to everyone and I actually find that works better than hiding the information.
Clypheous: You make $31k a year because you have two years experience in the field, etc.
Mysticman89: tends to be less transparent the high up the pay scale things go. At minimum wage, nothing to hide, but beyond that theres always maybe a fear 'oh geeze maybe people will be outraged im making so much' or something
Clypheous: Yeah, I've gotten over the outrage thing.
Clypheous: I make good money, but I'm also currently working about 16 hours a day 6 days a week to try to keep my office running so I can pay all my employees, most of whom are working remote, during a pandemic.