niccus: i'm glad people seem to have settled on "the legendary crab"
Zappeljakob: omg, I didn't realize this O.o Massive Crab is MASSIVE
chaostreader: Attack with your 2/1 with kicker so it will die?
TheWriterAleph: Giant Enemy Crab!
Diabore: we'll start getting things
Diabore: RUDE
sentientstump73: have you been playing scute swarm?
monkeyrama: We will start getting tokens 👀
Diabore: !card felidar outpost
LRRbot: Can't find any card by that name
monkeyrama: MXC 👀
Electrodyne: Let's turn Zendikar... into Friendikar
Diabore: maybe just not kick bubble snare to stop the lifelink
chaostreader: ^
Diabore: stem the bleeding
elbarbasmtg: Hi everyone!
elbarbasmtg: visiting from spain! love LRR content!
Diabore: good to have you
TehAmelie: are there just nests of eldrazi lurking under the game board? do we dare click on them?
odocoelus: Just joined the stream - is Arena working now?
SmashTCG: only 5 if you dont kick it
Diabore: the whole scoot and caboodle
monkeyrama: Big Scoots
PressContinuePodcast: How are you playing with new senility cards?
PressContinuePodcast: Zendikar
queenfounder: Was gonna go back to work after this stream. It just won’t end!
yamahako: Would that make 4 2/2s?
thrumbonumber5: Lame! Only streamers are whitelisted to play
Diabore: @PressContinuePodcast zendikar released online today
elbarbasmtg: everyone can play w ZEN RIS cards
Diabore: @thrumbonumber5 zendikar is out for all now
TehAmelie: Zendikar autocorrects to "senility" huh?
chaostreader: !card shell shield
LRRbot: Shell Shield [U] | Instant | Kicker {1} / Target creature you control gets +0/+3 until end of turn. If this spell was kicked, that creature also gains hexproof until end of turn.
elbarbasmtg: seems so hahaha
thrumbonumber5: @diabore but the servers are only working for streamers
monkeyrama: Dauntless seabatBRAIN
almond_cat: hmm arena is broken for me ><
elbarbasmtg: @thrumbonumber5 not quite true. i don't stream and i was just playing
monkeyrama: Sure is!
elbarbasmtg: it doesnt work properly, and it can kick you out, but it works for me...
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shadowbow464: Are we winning graham?
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GreatGodOm: OP may be suffereing from Fancy play syndrome.
monkeyrama: Eyy, nicely done
Blaynorg: is there a redemption code for 1 free Zendikar pack?
TehAmelie: Ian will have to tinker harder to make up for it huh
kais58: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Tinker Tailor Solder Fry (With the Star Wars Squadrons release looming, Ian is back to finish converting his ancient Thrustmaster FCS Joystick and Throttle to USB, and applies some polish to the work already done. Game: [...]) at Thu 05:00 PM PDT (10m ago).
DiscordianTokkan: It is, yea
RaiXann: It can work without capitals too
TheWriterAleph: playzendikar
Electrodyne: the real treasure was the Zends we flayed along the way.
unarmedoracle: also island tour!
LoadingReadyRun: OH HECK
monkeyrama: THanks for the stream, Adam and Graham
patbaer: Island Tour returns tomorrow!
Sogheim: ?
Electrodyne: Cross dem Animals
mercano82: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Tinker Tailor Solder Fry (With the Star Wars Squadrons release looming, Ian is back to finish converting his ancient Thrustmaster FCS Joystick and Throttle to USB, and applies some polish to the work already done. Game: [...]) at Thu 05:00 PM PDT (10m ago).
Ivalenz_: !schedule
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TehAmelie: and a Gvlog! we're getting spoiled with all this content
unarmedoracle: 10am be there or be not there either!
Electrodyne: Oh man, this after-credits scene is the best
Juliamon: Be There or Be Asleep Probably
unarmedoracle: there is!
serramarkov: If I get out of work fast enough...
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patbaer: Later Alligator is a great lil game.
ramiel117: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Tinker Tailor Solder Fry (With the Star Wars Squadrons release looming, Ian is back to finish converting his ancient Thrustmaster FCS Joystick and Throttle to USB, and applies some polish to the work already done. Game: [...]) at Thu 05:00 PM PDT (12m ago).
Enigma129912: hey @LoadingReadyRun I came here cause I heard of you from alias
Juliamon: Welcome!
Enigma129912: wait is the stream over?
Juliamon: Yeah, it just wrapped up
Enigma129912: aww man
Enigma129912: lol
niccus: the mtg stream just wrapped up, ian's stream will start a little late
Enigma129912: aliasGodzilla aliasGodzilla
Juliamon: More Magic about 24h from now though
RegulusPratus: Alright, I'm switching platforms. Lemme see some lrrSIGNAL when it comes back on.
TheMerricat: next stream is getting ready to start in just a few minutes @Enigma129912
Juliamon: !schedule
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MilkInBag: I'm back!
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: Hey there mr. InBag
MilkInBag: Welp, I'm back too late
TehAmelie: or just in time
LoadingReadyRun: @Enigma129912 Sorry to have missed you!
serramarkov: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
TheMerricat: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
FenrisSchafer: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
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Electrodyne: Third!!
LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> It’s time for Tinker Tailor Solder Fry, in which Ian will attempt to finish converting a 90s Thrustmaster throttle and stick to USB! | http://twitch.tv/LoadingReadyRun 📷 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiKBEzRVoAEL__1.jpg || https://www.twitter.com/loadingreadyrun/status/1306748768394461185
ContingentCat: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
PsybrnetiCToasT: !findquote thrust
LRRbot: Quote #4588: "If you ever get the sense that somebody in the room is making vulgar thrusting motions, that's because Kathleen's a ghost and she's in the room with you." —Graham [2018-01-08]
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johnhelix: Aw yeah peripheral customization.
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chi7891: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
Mcgwee: howdy!
NathanJay_GA: !advice
LRRbot: Make a rhythm game that uses a theremin.
RegulusPratus: That's pretty good advice
LoadingReadyRun: Good advice.
PsybrnetiCToasT: I’d play that game
NathanJay_GA: seems like something Ian would do
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DirgeNovak: 36 months? That's four sub babies! (And also three years)
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johnhelix: Rob Scallon did a video with a professional theremin player that was super=interesting.
Cynderstone: audio
korvys: mute
FITorion: muted
johnhelix: Muuuuted.
GhostValv: sound
CaptainSpam: MIC 5!
Cynderstone: muuuute
ramiel117: muted
Vampiricsloth: !miccheck
gualdhar: mute
KaminaDuck: Oh no, the sound again.
RegulusPratus: I've got it
Anexmedia: he came in hot, and was punished for it
GamesAndInk: Ian
PsybrnetiCToasT: mawp
hold_no_carter: H E A R I N G
LadyAiluros: quiet ian is quiet
hold_no_carter: Sound
serramarkov: No sound
DoodlestheGreat: LUL
RegulusPratus: Oh, wait, I'm just delayed. Intro had sound, Ian does not.
DrakoniteStreams: Theremin Hero was 100% an idea some people tried to get going around the office while working on GH.
hold_no_carter: this is a crapshoot
DirgeNovak: Well he seems excited, whatever he's talking about
Mcgwee: What is noise?
GamesAndInk: Nope not that button
Cynderstone: I think we're aware
GreayStone: we can't hear you
GamesAndInk: Still no
noSmokeFire: tonight we mime
hold_no_carter: we're living inside of a crapshot
DrakoniteStreams: I didn't know Ian had Mime training
Simonark: Tonight we mime in hell.
Otakuman81: First word.
korvys: correct
PsybrnetiCToasT: Watching the gears turn lmao
DoodlestheGreat: Nothing yet, Ian.
NathanJay_GA: Let's try that again :D
NotCainNorAbel: no, we don't hear you
frage069: Oh no Ian has gone deaf
noSmokeFire: goodybe
NotCainNorAbel: do you hear you?
CaptainSpam: Still muted.
Anexmedia: lrrFINE
TheWriterAleph: "I'll come in again."
Otakuman81: Can’t hear you.
DrakoniteStreams: or is it charades night?
ramiel117: love you Ian
CaptainSpam: Intro has audio.
Simonark: Opening theme still loud and clear.
kitsunestudios: Audio ig fine on the logo though
PixelArtDragon: Oh good, it wasn't my headphones malfunctioning
DoodlestheGreat: TAKE TWO
KaminaDuck: "I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition"
GreayStone: Thiker tailor solder mime lol!
GhostValv: doodbenny
SilentOptimist: WE'RE ON!!!
Anexmedia: First try
Mcgwee: twp
The_Ocean_who_Subbed: aaaaand that worked
KaminaDuck: YAY
kitsunestudios: There we go. :)
NathanJay_GA: Good to go!
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AranMathai: :D
CaptainSpam: Ian has audio.
patbaer: must have changed a setting during the Regular Crisp Day stream.
serramarkov: Yay! I hear you!!!!
Mcgwee: first try every time
Ivalenz_: I'm here for the Vanta Beige.
Featherweight_: Ian so hi def
Featherweight_: crisp
Armyguy0: I can about see his pores
GamesAndInk: Not too crispy though
GamesAndInk: Just the normal amount
chaostreader: I love how the background changes color with how close Ian is to the camera.
Armyguy0: this is not just Ian this is Advanced Ian
RegulusPratus: Not normally a fan of TTSF or modern Star Wars games, but I loved the old TIE Fighter games, and if Squadrons calls for a proper joystick, I'm now hyped for both
DoodlestheGreat: Arduous-unos.
Featherweight_: how does it smell?
Simonark: And they said that old 90s Joystick Potpouri wasn't worth the price.
korvys: Trademac, lol
Anexmedia: I will fight them
korvys: Muted
korvys: again
Juliamon: This scene is muted
johnhelix: Awesome, Thrustmaster WCS, I had one of those!
arcanzaJenkins: goodbye audio?
serramarkov: Muted!
KaminaDuck: And now we lost sound on that source again
Driosenth: YOu muted yourself
Mcgwee: mute
DoodlestheGreat: Sounds like a Hot Ass to me.
johnhelix: Aaaaand you're muted again.
patbaer: no sound Ian
CaptainSpam: You're muted in this view, just like during Regular Crispy Day.
Electrodyne: 👂👂👂👂👂
DrakoniteStreams: lipreading time... I think he is saying something about Jojo?
DoodlestheGreat: Muted again, ian.
WalrusOntheCourt: sign langauge?
PixelArtDragon: I have no sound, but I must stream
Simonark: Also your went bright yellow a moment there.? But mainly the mute.
FITorion: camera switch muted
hold_no_carter: S O U N D
Driosenth: muted on scene change
Mcgwee: mute
dabomb1313: s a und
Electrodyne: 🔇🔕😶
InTheLandOfTheRisingSun: IAN YOUR MIC IS OFF
dabomb1313: Tinker Tailor Sound off
WalrusOntheCourt: Ah... the stream is a Bounty of goodness...
LadyAiluros: sound plz?
patbaer: White balance is.... not our current issue my good man.
chi7891: WE CANT HEAR YOU CLAP CLAP CLAPCLAPCLAP
arcanzaJenkins: silent disco show now
Simonark: I was getting some white balance issues, actually, but they are secondary.
DiscordianTokkan: Audio went off in the camera change?
PixelArtDragon: Victoria BC I can't hear youuuuu!!!!
WalrusOntheCourt: Ah!
FITorion: bback
NathanJay_GA: there we go
KaminaDuck: THERE WE GO
dabomb1313: :0
DoodlestheGreat: GOT IT!
Mcgwee: ok
7gorobei: and back
patbaer: audio
arcanzaJenkins: yay sound
DiscordianTokkan: S... sound?
DiscordianTokkan: There we go
ContingentCat: there we go!
Electrodyne: YAY
Driosenth: It muted on scene change
WalrusOntheCourt: Did you forget to make a sacrifice to the sound gods, again?
arcanzaJenkins: what does a sacrifice to the sound gods entail, exactly?
62MGcobra: hey i have that keyboard
WalrusOntheCourt: It's messy.
NathanJay_GA: "Computers will make your life easier" they said
ContingentCat: @arcanzaJenkins you make a big yelp into the void
JDogg2K4: This stream
WalrusOntheCourt: This way, they can get your warranty information... muted.
DoodlestheGreat: "It came to me in a dream."
TheWriterAleph: Thrustmaster. I need your most powerful thrusts.
ContingentCat: oh wow
korvys: Dear valued Thrustomer,
DarkMorford: Wow, Prodigy. I haven't heard that name in a long time.
Simonark: I was told of the Thrustmaster by a wandering prodigy...
62MGcobra: i want thrustmaster. can only afford logitech
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Simonark: You can just fax them though, which is convenient.
Cynderstone: got distracted, what are we doing?
codl_: are you planning to use this for 24h of lrrmans
Greggleswong: How long do you have to apprentice in thrusting before you're a master?
johnhelix: Bahaha, Thrustomer, that killed me, Korvys.
GamesAndInk: I think 10,000 hours?
kitsunestudios: @62MGcobra They're about the same price these days.
Simonark: Thrustjourneyman, and then you have to work on your Thrustmasterpiece.
Cynderstone: 250 hours of flight
Kreiseler: 525,600 minutes? whatever that is in hours
WalrusOntheCourt: Multiball!
Mysticman89: single jets in your area
ContingentCat: Or do you need to have your Bachelor's in Thrust before your Masters
62MGcobra: @kitsunestudios not for the good stuff
PixelArtDragon: Single engine? That's a completely different kind of flying, altogether!
WalrusOntheCourt: A PhD in thrust is too much work. I'm just going to marry into it.
Earthenone: hence the recuring LRL bit, the Thrust Doctors
KaminaDuck: @PixelArtDragon "That's a completely different kind of flying"
Simonark: Are all the basic forces of flight in play? Because Dragmasters are a different show.
Electrodyne: Happy Regular Thrusty Day
LadyAiluros: But are they related to the Disk Doctors?
WalrusOntheCourt: Regular Thrust Day as opposed to Thrustmas?
Electrodyne: exactly
Lord_ZYRK: The thrust is stored in the nut
Driosenth: Ian, since LRRMans is on Assetto Corsa this year, is there a way to pull vehicle and race data from the game like cheetojack did last year? Or will we need to keep a manual spreadsheet like the first two years?
DrakoniteStreams: is the nut for mounting it?
Driosenth: Is that just a 10K pot?
floki4242: Ian has anyone told you that they're making the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack on vinyl
NathanJay_GA: is there a detente for reverse thrust?
ContingentCat: idol? the thrustmaster has a k-pop mode?
Electrodyne: Mmmm, linear pot
Lord_ZYRK: Sloth love klunk
DandyGeek: Ian, you know you have a hookup for where to ship the Bebop LPs
NathanJay_GA: "Focus, you fack!"
62MGcobra: enhance
Cynderstone: Again, got distracted, what are we doing? Are we refurbing?
wedge_x: I had a chance to use a USAF F-4 simulator back when I was in the Civil Air Patrol. Jamming the throttle into full afterburner is super satisfying.
Simonark: We're entering a dream sequence
Juliamon: We can see from here, yeah
Greggleswong: 100 k per axis?
Vampiricsloth: converting from old school plugs to usb plugs @Cynderstone
DarkMorford: @Driosenth Yes and no. I have a data logging application for it, but we don't have a server set up for live tracking like last year. Once Ian's done racing I'll get the data dump from him and then we can do what we want with it.
DrakoniteStreams: I was too slow in buying a HOTAS. With FS2020 out now, they are getting more expensive to find :-/
Cynderstone: @Vampiricsloth Thank you <3
Vampiricsloth: so that the thrustmaster he has can be used on pc
DandyGeek: They're sold out, I just checked.
itomeshi: I'm curious about the plan - It has a joystick connector, so it's not like a simple RS232 to USB adapter.... arduino?
Cynderstone: Will there be an in-between board, or just a straight re-wire?
Vampiricsloth: i heard 3080's are sold out in most retailers too LUL
DarkMorford: @Driosenth So a Google spreadsheet would probably be good for tracking things as we go, but there will be full telemetry after the fact.
ArdCollider: @itomeshi there's a Teeny hanging out in it
patbaer: hi Cori
TheWriterAleph: hi Cori!
ContingentCat: Hi Cori voice
itomeshi: @ArdCollider Ah, ty...
Electrodyne: @vampiricsloth I read a conversation where bots scooped most of them up for resale
itomeshi: I just got dupont connector gear :)
Vampiricsloth: sounds about right lol
Driosenth: oh no, I hate dupont because the insulation is offset tines
arcanzaJenkins: hi cori!
Lord_ZYRK: Ian what happened to your beard
Cynderstone: Hiya!
Simonark: Hello!
TheAinMAP: Hi Cori.
ContingentCat: Hi the rest of Cori
GhostValv: fair
serramarkov: Hi Cori!
Lord_ZYRK: and your not hair
Rynehawk: hi casual cori!
patbaer: Hey Cori
GhostValv: hi
kalira77: hi casual cori
DrakoniteStreams: Hi Casual Cori
TheWriterAleph: s'all good
WalrusOntheCourt: Casual Cori! Don't worry. No one has worn pants in the last six months.
Juliamon: Eh, it's 2020.
Simonark: We're ok, hope you are too?
niccus: how was crispy day
noSmokeFire: what is best in life, cori?
Vampiricsloth: remember when ps3 first came out and people were buying them out and selling them for over 1k :P
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: hello casual cori. Tell buisness cori I said hi.
TehAmelie: keepin it real
RegulusPratus: Showering is overrated in the quarantine hellscape
ContingentCat: Did you have a good Regular Crispy Day?
Anexmedia: Talking simulator got really meta
DarkMorford: Hey Cori
patbaer: Have anything Crispy today?
TheWriterAleph: byeeee
itomeshi: Hi Cori - started moving today, so that's fun.
DarkMorford: Bye Cori
arcanzaJenkins: we had smoke over in michigan too
TheAinMAP: Bye.
WalrusOntheCourt: Happy Regular Thrusty Day!
Spluuga: just use the us army self soldering joints
DrakoniteStreams: Bye Causal Cori.
DarkMorford: Ooh, chompers!
WalrusOntheCourt: You're going to crimp your style?
Greggleswong: Crimpin' ain't easy
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SquareDotCube: Clip it, don't zip it?
TheWriterAleph: don't zip the crimps, got it
itomeshi: Got there!
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Xiff_: Don't cut the green wire
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patbaer: clip it, don't duct (tape) it
chibi_bento: Cori, you are the Best.
Simonark: Unless the thing you see is a wire? Then don't clip it.
PixelArtDragon: Chat is as funny as its funniest member
TheWriterAleph: i would say chat is as funny as it's *least* funny member LUL
chi7891: Cori basically as part of the chat for this stream
patbaer: the future? that's future Ian's problem
Driosenth: @DarkMorford I'm no good with google sheets, I recall that there is a way to make a copy of an existing document, but I cannot for the life of me remember how.
serramarkov: That was an interesting concept... enough wires.
WalrusOntheCourt: Ok. Now, where is that warranty card???
itomeshi: could you use the joystick pinout to figure out the common ground?
Seagulyus: huh twitch is telling me that this has only a single viewer
Seagulyus: which is definably wrong XD
Electrodyne: If we somehow find out who supports that hardware currently, that could make an excellent phone call
arcanzaJenkins: @Seagulyus me too :P
EarlGreyHot_: Such a satisfying Click that multi meter makes
serramarkov: Me too, @Seagulyus
TheWriterAleph: we are all the only viewer
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: The chat hive mind has become a single person. this is only a natural course for our evolution
Electrodyne: @seagulyus It's you, the rest of us are bots
ContingentCat: @Seagulyus lrrSPOOP oh wow it just dropped for me from ~400 to 1, are we ghosts now?
itomeshi: Interesting - there might be 3 Grounds, based on a pinout of a joystick port
Spluuga: mtg card or not, common ground?
oliverontwitch: Familiar Ground, yes. Common Ground, no.
Earthenone: !card common ground
LRRbot: Can't find any card by that name
Spluuga: common bond too
Seagulyus: Electrodyne no I am also a bot. beep boop. I am programmed to point that out
itomeshi: Ian, please don't strip all at once O_O
serramarkov: 433!
Seagulyus: ContingentCat I think we are ghosts possessing robots.
Driosenth: were the buttons on the stick TTL or HTL? the yellow could be hot and the brown be ground or vice-versa
itomeshi: oh, that's.... interesting
PixelArtDragon: Don't forget to put on the appropriate music to strip to lrrBEEJ
bainard656: Are there generic drivers that Ian's going to use, or is stage IV of this project writing drivers?
Rynehawk: things you dont want to hear right now: thats hot!
Spluuga: wouldn't that be electroswing then?
WalrusOntheCourt: Wow. You think the guy who plays rhythm games would be a bit more in rhythm.
WalrusOntheCourt: I'm pretty sure I know when the stripper stops.
PixelArtDragon: Accuse?
Electrodyne: Ian is so damn wholesome that his "Stripper" music is not Motley Crue
Spluuga: always accuse
ContingentCat: eh it's a little on the nose
jdkirkham03: 1920's stripping music
DrakoniteStreams: @WalrusOntheCourt nah. Put it this way: I worked on rhythm games. I wrote code for handling singing... but I'm pretty sure I'd get arrested for crimes against humanity if I tried to sing.
Alephred: Dr. Ian, is your ass prepared for LRRMans this weekend? :D
DrakoniteStreams: singing is a black art as far as I'm concerned
WalrusOntheCourt: But stripping is a different story... @DrakoniteStreams
DrakoniteStreams: I should also get arrested for that @WalrusOntheCourt ;)
Armyguy0: Alt-tabing back im sad this one does not have the ranbow ribbon cable @LoadingReadyRun
Spluuga: honestly electroswing is the worst and best thing come back from the old cool musics
Armyguy0: oh hey looky there
PixelArtDragon: As long as you don't crimp my style :p
Electrodyne: Oh crap, I ride a bicycle in Denver and I can't tell red from green
DrakoniteStreams: DrIan: Pro tip on crimping: it sucks. you're going to screw it up and hate it. That is normal. Good luck.
Electrodyne: I'll just trust everyone else
PixelArtDragon: @spluuga Electroswing can be phenomenal listening and also at the same time the most background of music depending on the quality
serramarkov: Top or left light is red, bottom or right light is green, but I'm sure you already know that.
NarwhalsInATrenchcoat: @Electrodyne isn't that... dangerous? Stay safe
Electrodyne: @narwhalsinatrenchcoat ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ I was actually making a little bit of fun at people who don't follow traffic signals when it doesn't suit them
kusinohki: I'm susceptible to bribes.
PixelArtDragon: I will accept payment in the form of content.
Lord_ZYRK: This is the cyber police. Stay in frame and put your hands up.
Spluuga: @PixelArtDragon that's kind of what I mean. I like it a lot at times, depending on the song. but also that means that swing itself isn't "good enough" as music for these modern times
TheWriterAleph: is it ho-tAHs or hot-ass?
Juliamon: yes
onarampage: Does anyone else have trouble saying "Thrustmaster" with a strait face?
DrakoniteStreams: @TheWriterAleph yes
TheWriterAleph: thanks juliamon ;)
DrakoniteStreams: @onarampage "Thrustmaster hotas"
PixelArtDragon: @spluuga I find vaporwave to be very similar. There are some phenomenal tracks, and then a whole bunch that I can't tell apart.
serramarkov: I can't even read it with a straight face!
WallOfCeiling: what's being built?
varmy199990: Wanna become famous? Buy followers, primes and views on bigfollows*com (bigfollows . com)!
Spluuga: @PixelArtDragon yaas... it's a good painting music tho. I prefer synthwave maybe most
Brozard: @WallOfCeiling Looks like he's modifying his joystick for Star Wars Squadrons
serramarkov: Yay! Can do few!
Nigouki: handheld TEETH lrrCREEPL lrrCREEPR
Electrodyne: "Thrustmaster" was probably coined by people who got sick of hearing other people snicker when they mentioned they're "in the joystick business" at parties
serramarkov: That was supposed to be for the win.
PixelArtDragon: @spluuga Yep. There are like two synthwave tracks that I actually remember, and one of those is technically sovietwave.
onarampage: Like, imagine being a superhero and/or super villian, and your name is "Thrustmaster"
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Spluuga: PixelArtDragon you should try sweatwave :P
egonomogo: i just walked in here like heh thrustmaster heh heh but i'm just...i'm just gonna let chat take the wheel on this one. evening folks.
Electrodyne: I'd probably go by "Thrustmaster" if I had telekinesis
kusinohki: @Electrodyne or had a jetpack or ironman type suite
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egonomogo: i'd be a supervillain from connecticut and my superpower would be perfectly wielding a magic foil.
PixelArtDragon: @spluuga I may have already heard some of it, I usually just shuffle through a "synthwave exercise" playlist on Spotify whenever I go running
egonomogo: the foil can talk and is probably passive aggressively classist.
EvanGrill: Is that a MK II?
onarampage: @egonomogo enemy of Parryman
EvanGrill: I have one of those in the box!
Electrodyne: Spidey better bone up on his "Fence" puns
itomeshi: I feel like Thrustmaster would be a D-list supervillain who just had sticky thrusters to put on things.
kusinohki: @egonomogo it took me a moment to realize you were talking about the sword and not shiny cards...
egonomogo: everyone is enemy of parryman @onarampage
egonomogo: @kusinohki on zendikar online release day this is very understandable.
Electrodyne: Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve PARRY
Electrodyne: hey man no Journey psyche-outs
DrakoniteStreams: DrIan: I tend to bend them back and forth to break them off, but it can leave a small lip at the back end that makes it hard to insert in the housing.
Spluuga: @PixelArtDragon yeah that's kind what I do if I need to walk somewhere except I usually put on dark synthwave lists
Driosenth: "Fun" fact, The 2.54 mm pitch "DuPont connector" offical name is "Mini-PV" and hasn't been made by DuPont in almost three decades. Berg Electronics originally made them before being bought by DuPont in 72. DuPont sold its electronics division in 93 to HM Capital.
Cynderstone: #FlashFact?
onarampage: Why is Thrustmaster not a Flash rouge?
PixelArtDragon: @spluuga I'll have to try that next time I have to walk anywhere, which is probably not going to be for a while
DrakoniteStreams: @Driosenth I haven't seen them called "Mini-PV". When I searched back their history a while back I found they'd gone through at least three companies that all just listed them under their company names.
Cynderstone: That's a crimpadoodle
Driosenth: Ian, can you zoom in on the insulation crimp ?
Spluuga: @PixelArtDragon yeah I d
Spluuga: feels you
korvys: Didn't you just read out instructs that said crimp until it opens automatically, and then you didn't?
Electrodyne: crimpasaurus
DrakoniteStreams: Ian: There are two crimp sections. one grabs the copper, one grabs the insulation.
DrakoniteStreams: very easy to accidentally crimp the front part as well with big crimpers :-/
Electrodyne: Stone Cold Crimpin
DrakoniteStreams: look at a fresh one, and you'll see two pairs of "fingers". both of those pairs need crimped over. your crimpers might do them both at once (mine do not)
Spluuga: wait you mean those things in molex connectors are duponts`?
Electrodyne: Someone get Ian a big hat with a feather and a shirt that says "Crimp Daddy"
DarkMorford: I've never used DuPonts, but I have a kit for the JST XH-series connectors and those are fiddly buggers, yeah.
DoktorNik: Evening!
PixelArtDragon: So I watched the Dune fanedit yesterday, having never seen Dune before (but having read it several times). It was a very good reminder that the 80's was a weeeeird time for sci-fi movies.
Driosenth: If you ant to know what a bad and good Dupont pin crimp looks like http://techmattmillman.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/minipvcrimped2.jpg
Electrodyne: I'd like that photo marked SFW please
Spluuga: @PixelArtDragon I kinda like that movie even if it is a bit ruff xD
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Driosenth: other way around
Driosenth: the dupont is weird and annoying in that the insulation crimp tines are offset
PixelArtDragon: @spluuga It was certainly an interesting experience, and it was nice to have a bit better of a basis for the memes than I had from just the books, but yeah, it's quite ruff.
siltyroach: Good evening! :)
capbarbosa2: hello
DrakoniteStreams: that is perfect
Driosenth: That is correct
MsCorvidae: what board is that? it looks like an arduino nano but shorter
Spluuga: @PixelArtDragon to be fair I haven't read the book. It's a project I haven't gotten around to..
DrakoniteStreams: (I've done a fair bit of wiring crimping)
ContingentCat: gone forever
Manae: Get a flashlight
Anexmedia: Thats almost as bad as finding guitar string trimmings
egonomogo: tfw the necessary tool is a kaiju
Manae: Using a light to focus on one area makes it much easier to find a dropped item
DrakoniteStreams: this is the authentic crimping experience
MsCorvidae: send out another one and watch it this time =p
DrakoniteStreams: up next: crimp flies out of crimper in random direction
Manae: Even in a well-lit room, limiting to "just in this circle of light" really helps scan
DarkMorford: That reminds me, I need to get one of those telescoping magnetic pick-up tools.
Anexmedia: I've got my giant harbor freight "im buying a used car and want to check for bondo" magnet for these jobs
DrakoniteStreams: this is just how crimping goes. it's a pain. these are actually designed for machine crimping anyways, which doesn't help
CrazyZonie: Ian, I love the graphics for Crimper Simulator 2020, but doesn't the gameplay loop seem a little repetitive?
Manae: The curse of crimping
Cynderstone: learning!
egonomogo: i never know what the hell ian is doing but i love these streams so damn much.
Driosenth: I got fed up with the insulation crimps on dupont pins, I crimp the wires with a tool and then fold over the insulation tines with a needle nose pliers
Manae: At least you pulled it out BEFORE installing it
PixelArtDragon: @crazyzonie When played right, the controls are tight
Electrodyne: RAAAR crimpasaurus eats another wire
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Ed25519: Its like Bob Ross... but crimping :)
PonderingElephant: Solder 'em instead?
CrazyZonie: Could strip a little more and fold the wire back onto itself, or you could solder them.
MWGNZ: time to rewire everything!
Driosenth: crimps should be good for 22 to 28 AWG
Anexmedia: I mean you bought the crimper, might as well get good with it
MsCorvidae: could you solder them to the crimping..thing?
DrakoniteStreams: When you break them off by bending back and forth, it can leave a lip that makes inserting them in the housing tough, you may need to clean that up
Manae: Does your stripper have a gauger on the back?
DrakoniteStreams: Looks like 26AWG wire. By my calibrated eye ;)
DrakoniteStreams: @MsCorvidae you don't want to do that as it adds a hard point nad makes the wire likely to break
DrakoniteStreams: 26 should be fine in "dupont" crimps
Electrodyne: Just crimp all 24 with butt connectors and encase the whole thing in a ball of epoxy
DrakoniteStreams: crimping can take some practice.
Anexmedia: this seems like one of those skills that has a bit of luck with it at first
vonmaxwell: focus you frick
DrakoniteStreams: in my experience, the correct slot to use on the crimpers is the one that seems like it is just a bit too small
Electrodyne: That's looks good... enough! :D
TheThromborax: Ian, do you have the magnification goggles shown on the most recent Mail Time?
Jelkimantis: what if you tin the wire before you crimp it?
Anexmedia: So as a side note, twitch is having a lovely issue where it keeps dropping the viewer count and then blasting it back up at random intervals and that's been amusing
Driosenth: looks like the connectors can span a range from 18-32 AWG, but typically comes in a 22-26 AWG variant
serramarkov: Crimping is an art.
DrakoniteStreams: those crimp jaws look too big for these. they look more like molex crimps (I could be wrong though)
TheThromborax: did you mislabel your wire ruiner?
Cynderstone: "should"
TwitchTVsFrank: "should"
Anexmedia: are you firmly grasping it?
CrazyZonie: Should and Is are two different words
SnackPak_: Hi everyone
TheThromborax: I once bought a ratchet set from Harbor Freight and some of them were Imperial and some were Metric and there was no rhyme or reason for it
Driosenth: I probably went through 200 to 300 dupont crimps before I could say I got good. I ruined probably half of thoses
DrakoniteStreams: Should should be the case but rarely Is.
Electrodyne: in a fight between Harbor Freight and Princess Auto, who would win?
Cynderstone: Home Depot
serramarkov: Who's the judge?
TwitchTVsFrank: princess auto they are royalty
TheThromborax: @electrodyne that's like asking who would win in a fight between Bigfoot and a Sasquatch
Driosenth: Can you zoon in on the crimp you just did?
serramarkov: If Beej is the judge, PA, all the way.
DrakoniteStreams: crimps take far more than 18 failed attempts before you get it passable
TheThromborax: Beej is too biased
jdkirkham03: out of the frame
The_Lesser_Gatsby: Crimpin' aint easy
TheThromborax: next do Crumping
Rynehawk: everytime I hear "crimping" I think Tastykake Krimpets, and man I want a butterscotch krimpet so bad now
kitsunestudios: Crimping? I thought this was about crunking. Dammit, I'm out of here... Kappa
PixelArtDragon: Maybe you should do short videos of your crimps. Call them "crimpshots"
kitsunestudios: Crimpmas with the Crumps.
nanostul: Ian... switch of your targeting computer... reach out with the force...
Rynehawk: the field of battle post-battle
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GreayStone: crimpmas crimpshots
thefileclerk: CLOSER
Driosenth: that looks like a much better crimp
DrakoniteStreams: yeah, make sure only the two pairs of crimp fingers are in the crimp jaws, and the box portion and rest of the front half are not
TwitchTVsFrank: have you tried doubling the wire onto itself
thefileclerk: this is givng me flashbacks to when i was in electronics. the smell of sweat and solder flux
Ed25519: well in theory, there's no difference between practice and theory
thefileclerk: that is one hell of a crimper
PixelArtDragon: ENHANCE
CrazyZonie: @thefileclerk Funny, I remember smell of fried capacitors and resistors from the freshmen in the back of the class playing with the power supplies on the bench.
Driosenth: what are the engraving size markings on jaws?
thefileclerk: yeah, and the occasional pop noise that is the sound of a seniors final project giving him a full extra semester.
CrazyZonie: @thefileclerk Also, I need to point out that the teacher spent two months on teaching those same kids Power formula and Ohms law. I spent those same two months tutoring said kids. :(
Electrodyne: Continuity test on the meter
Electrodyne: oh yeah, this is what we're here for
DrakoniteStreams: looks like insulation is under both crimp sections, so won't work reliably, if at all
TwitchTVsFrank: ^
Nigouki: that looks very iffy because it's not clamping the bare wire so contact depends on fate
Driosenth: I think the connector is to crimpped too flat to fit inside the housing,
Rynehawk: we done with the tutorial boys! :)
DrakoniteStreams: Is very good progress. I still do that on occasion.
CrazyZonie: Ian, are you using a bamboo cutting board as a workbench?
SnackPak_: lrrHORN ?
Rynehawk: that there is a pro crimp
MWGNZ: benginTry
CrazyZonie: Wasn't judging, just found it interesting.
SnackPak_: lrrHORN !
Rynehawk: WE CRIMPIN
DarkMorford: I have the SN-01BM from Iwiss and I found it works quite well on JST terminals. Says it can do DuPont as well, and there's a how-to video on the page if you need it. https://iwiss.com/product/iwiss-sn-series-hand-crimping-tool/
FenrisSchafer: lrrHORN
TwitchTVsFrank: looks good
Juliamon: Chefkiss
ContingentCat: lrrHORN success
GhostValv: punting?
DrakoniteStreams: ceeeleeebrate good times, c'mon!
serramarkov: Congratulations!
ContingentCat: circled?
Nigouki: that looks almost perfect! just double check it's crimped around the insulation enough to fit inside the plastic connector
Driosenth: check that it fits in the housing
wedge_x: cladding?
Electrodyne: du. du pont. du pont mich
Despoiler98: that plastic was a lie the whole time
Driosenth: DuPont is dead, all hail Dow
Simonark: Hey, we've got a LOT of reasons to be mad at Du Pont over the years....
SquareDotCube: not punting?
Mikklun: Du pont and their ilk are the embodiment of corporate evil and malfeasance
PsybrnetiCToasT: Shoutout to hemp based plastics
niccus: also multiple industrial accidents
CrazyZonie: Ian, if you want to cry, just read up about the whole recycling industry. Apparently it is a blue can full of lies.
PsybrnetiCToasT: And paper for that matter
Simonark: If you want to go back before I was born, look up Du Pont and "Vietnam War" and then get angry in a retro way.
Mikklun: Du pont and hemp is one hell of a story
PixelArtDragon: Ooh, Fibron is a really good name
scootdegroote: famous last words
DarkMorford: HUBRI...
Simonark: It's a lot like the whole weird story of Henry Ford and soybeans, right?
ContingentCat: sergeHubris
GreayStone: playing roundabout by yes
PsybrnetiCToasT: Du pont, anslinger, and cannabis, name a more iconic thruple
Driosenth: I want to call the "Oh No" will come when Ian tries to put the crimps in the connector housing
CrazyZonie: Oh, yeah... He was.
Simonark: He was OBSESSED with them, he tried to make a car out of them, he made a suit out of soybeans and you can see photos. Also, big fan of Hitler, but yeah, soybeans.
PsybrnetiCToasT: Model T was made of hemp fiberglass
Lord_ZYRK: CrazyZonie if someone won't pay *you* to take it, then nothing good is probably happening to it.
PsybrnetiCToasT: body was at least
Simonark: Amazingly, the newspaper article that accompanies the photo of Ford has the word "Crimp" in it.
PsybrnetiCToasT: @simonark and it all comes full circle lrrSPOOP
Spluuga: blood?
Simonark: The best detail is that he was so proud of his stupid soybean suit, and insisted on showing it off, getting his photo taken in it... it was apparently so itchy as to drive him to near madness, so at least that counts.
Adamantcheese: i would just say blood yeah, stabbing your finger on a particularly pointy solder joint
Driosenth: The crimp should be oriented such that the connector housing catches on the part of the square socket of the connector that makes contact with the pin
Rynehawk: all I know is crimpin' aint easy
Simonark: Crimp makes me think of the Mighty Boosh myself...
johnhelix: As someone who has lost more than a little blood to being stabbed by solder? Yeah, just blood.
niccus: straight crimpin'
PsybrnetiCToasT: an blood?
Driosenth: needle nose
PixelArtDragon: Speaking of sustainable fibers, I should rewatch The Man in the White Suit
Mikklun: gripping tweezers?
MWGNZ: avoid tangling by spending 30 minutes doing a fancy braid with all the cables?
Manae: There might be an insertion tool, but it'll be little better than a blunted pin anyway
Manae: They tend to just be a very thin C-shaped tube with a head
Spluuga: insertion tool is a blunt pin xD
ContingentCat: what are you drinking tonight?
Armyguy0: OH
Armyguy0: i just rememberd
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CrazyZonie: Ian, Worse case scenario, Newegg sells serial and parallel cards for modern motherboards.
ritchards: Hi Cori!
Armyguy0: @LoadingReadyRun New pop'n music
Armyguy0: Yes
Nigouki: so it seems like this crimper is too big even at the smallest tooth since it flattens the insulation clamp instead of making it round?
letfireraindown: i don't recall the last time i used a serial port
CrazyZonie: I ran across them looking for an interal adapter for a USB 3.1 to USB 3.1 C for a front panel connector.
Adamantcheese: and if you ever need a serial port, there's plenty of spare Dell Optiplexes somewhere, rotting away in a warehouse
PixelArtDragon: Can you just hook up something to a serial port and have direct electronic control from your computer?
ritchards: Nicky-goo?
nanostul: I used one this morning
NotCainNorAbel: network engineer - still use one, although things are moving toward USB
letfireraindown: oh... actually some of the old printers in the UW still used serial ports.
Nigouki: neck-y goo is that mix of dirt, sweat and sunburnt skin flakes after working in the garden too long
CrazyZonie: Ian, I'm pretty sure the last time I used a serial port was more than 20 years ago... :(
DrakoniteStreams: If looking for good crimpers, IWISS are about US$20
letfireraindown: still ten years
Anexmedia: SCSI for days
Armyguy0: And they are part of a complete PC breakfast
Driosenth: I spent $100 USD on a universal crimp-tool with interchangeable jaws, I think I saved that much from the bad crimps it prevented.
Mikklun: Ian you would love m better half's father's workshop serial ports and all sort of other "old tech" he works in home automation and office automation
DarkMorford: @DrakoniteStreams Yeah, I got the IWISS SN-01BM about a year ago and it's worked well the couple of times I've needed it.
nanostul: USB can't do the lenghts I need to do...
DrakoniteStreams: I am slow and missed that. I can tweet it or if someone caught it?
Driosenth: @nanostul not even with an active cable?
MWGNZ: email is easier to search again in a couple of years
nanostul: The application that I use it for is off grid - much better to keep things passive to save battery life
BaddestGlitch: p
Rynehawk: dont forget to find that bit on the floor
Nigouki: just wear soft foam slippers, they'll always pick up the electronic components you drop
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DrakoniteStreams: @DarkMorford yeah, I just learned about them in the past year, and they seem to be a good brand
DarkMorford: I've heard good things about the "Engineer" PA-series crimpers, too.
DrakoniteStreams: therea48Wave
Rynehawk: NOOOOoooo LUL
Armyguy0: OOF
SnackPak_: that sounds about right
Rynehawk: welp, there's the blood for the crimps
MWGNZ: the traditional method
Armyguy0: benginOh benginHeck
DoodlestheGreat: ow? BibleThump
Adamantcheese: the electronics gods have been sated by your sacrifice
DrakoniteStreams: @DarkMorford the engineer are what I've been using for years. I like the IWISS much better so far
ContingentCat: pain, even more effective than a flashlight
62MGcobra: yay?
wedge_x: extra thrust
Weagle: So... what exactly does a joystick do when it develops a taste for blood?
TStodden: Drawing blood is pretty much par for the show, right?
Funky_Abigail: You could say that this joystick now has your : DNA Footprint.
Weagle: Asking for a friend lrrBEEJ
Manae: @ContingentCat To be fair, when I'm looking for dropped items it tends to be like a 4-40 small-profile hex nut, so they don't hurt to step on :P
wedge_x: little blood reheat
asddsa28: it got a taste of blood
Juliamon: !addquote (Ian) [now] Keep your salty fluids away from my stuff.
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DoodlestheGreat: "Salty fluids...." ariW
DoodlestheGreat: @Juliamon :tf:
wedge_x: "coming up on stage 3: Multimeter!"
CrazyZonie: Can someone add "If I had a stripper name, it would be Multi-Function" - Ian (2020-09-17) to the quote list?
Nigouki: Ben Ulmer's Patented Butter Slide?
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DrakoniteStreams: shh, no one tell Casual Cori that DrIan took her pliers
DarkMorford: I need to get a smooth-jaw pair of pliers. *adds to the list*
CrazyZonie: @wedge_x I just realized, if we can find one, a good gift for Ian would be one of those old school "Build your own kit" oscilloscopes that Radio Shack used to sell back in the day. Doubt we could find one that wasn't already built.
DrakoniteStreams: ooh, I need an affiliate link, given how often I recommend stuff to people
DarkMorford: I've never actually looked into Amazon's affiliate link program. Should probably do that.
Driosenth: @DarkMorford https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B001YHHK2Y miniature needle nose pliers
Nigouki: only reason i have smooth jaw pliers is for model kit photo-etch parts, but so far i've been too afraid to start on any of those projects so they end up occasionally being used for electronics instead
snowmonkey99: I have smooth needlenose pliers for my metal earth models
DoodlestheGreat: Oopsie.
NotCainNorAbel: oh no, electronics run on smoke, you can't let that out. :(
MWGNZ: jamieOopsie
DrakoniteStreams: those kits don't make that good of scope in the end
TStodden: Software Town... neighbor to Circuit City...
Nigouki: lots of tools is fun to have, but the more tools you get the more you just want to keep buying tools and madness plus financial ruin lies that way
DrakoniteStreams: The seem like a fun kit, but never seen anyone use them for more than a week or two after building them.
PsybrnetiCToasT: !findquote cleanliness
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PsybrnetiCToasT: !findquote clean
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nanostul: and every tool is a hammer...
DrakoniteStreams: normally GND, Wiper, and VCC
Manae: We always use those screw-down Phoenixes at my work with the thought of "they're for prototyping, we go to proper cable bundles later." and then for the next twenty years the CCAs come in with Phoenixes instead of proper headers
Anexmedia: I tend to like to keep my entire bottom grounded when i'm on the pot
DarkMorford: Middle pin will be the wiper
TStodden: ANY tool can be the right tool.
CrazyZonie: Varies on the type of pot. IF the pot is contained in a metal can, it probably has a ground.
Driosenth: I want a tektronix silly scope, but my ancient portable NAPTECH with a tiny CRT does everything I need except data logging
CrazyZonie: Is the pot the trim wheel?
drfox17: gaaasp
Rynehawk: brown
drfox17: is this thrustmaster to be used for squadrons!?
ContingentCat: blue
Nigouki: purple!
DarkMorford: @LoadingReadyRun The middle pin on the pot will almost certainly be the wiper. If you get the two outside pins reversed, you'll be turning right instead of left but it shouldn't break anything.
Manae: Next TTSF purchase: a few alligator clips
CrazyZonie: Ian, why didn't you test and label the wires before putting them in the block?
Driosenth: Ground or hot? is the teensy TTL or HTL?
Driosenth: ^VCC not Hot
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MWGNZ: i got my x-wing helmet printed and painted in time for squadrons
CrazyZonie: @Manae Maybe throw in a label printer in that shipment, too.
DarkMorford: @Driosenth The Teensy boards are mostly 3.3v, but a lot of them are 5V tolerant on the digital pins.
NotCainNorAbel: I have boxes of those if you need them
Anexmedia: can you imagine all the crap people are going to junk/donate after they got it for crafts during lockdown?
DrakoniteStreams: I want to go thrifting again, but the only place I can get to right now that is also currently open has nothing for electronics
NotCainNorAbel: I also have a lot of USB-RJ45 for Cisco equipment if you are interested.
CrazyZonie: Chat any recommendations on a good HOTAS for MS FS2020?
Master_Gunner: CrazyZonie: My go-to HOTAS suggestion is the Thrustmaster T16000m
Manae: Interesting thing I learned very recently: what is constantly called RJ45 is almost always not. Real RJ45's aren't the common network cables, but a keyed connector that looks almost exactly the same
Drakas: g56
MWGNZ: CrazyZonie given the combination of covid/MS FS2020/star wars squadrons whatever you can find in stock
DrakoniteStreams: does logitech own thrustmaster?
DrakoniteStreams: I was very disappointed when they bought out saitek
Master_Gunner: Thrustmaster is independant, last I checked
CrazyZonie: @Master_Gunner It's nice, but looks like I'd need to buy rudder peddles separately.
Nigouki: Thrustmaster is French-owned iirc
Master_Gunner: I think there's a bundle that includes their rudder peddles
TreeGamer35: im about to pull the trigger on an upgrade from that TMX to a full fanatec kit... sim racing is an exspensive hobby
MWGNZ: 3d printers make custom controllers a lot easier than a few years ago
DrakoniteStreams: How does it feel to finally be closing out this many projects?
HesGotNoPants: is cachunka the scientific term?
Dr_Noonian_Soong: Did you ever manage to get that network based arcade system working?
DrakoniteStreams: I'd say that went pretty fast, after you finished the crimping tutorial level
GreayStone: but it is lets try so failure is always an option
CrazyZonie: Checked out Thrustmaster's website. If I want to fly military aircraft or Airbus, they have me covered. Boeing and most GA aircraft, well I'm out of luck. They don't offer any yoke style sticks.
Adamantcheese: shady russian websites mean you're on the right track in my experience
CrazyZonie: If I had the $$$, I'd drive down to the Aircraft boneyard, cut out a cockpit, and turn it into a simulator... But I'm not rich. :(
DrakoniteStreams: russian sites still worry me
Adamantcheese: or shady chinese pseudo-wikis
e_bloc: shady russian site means you're either getting something good or a virus
nanostul: In Soviet Russia - Sites Drive YOU
Electrodyne: is this that Dark Web I been readin about on the news
Master_Gunner: CH Products makes some highly-regarded joysticks, and I think they make a yoke or two as well.
Mysticman89: how do you even find sketchy russian hackers? Aren't there less sketchy places you could put open calls for such things?
Master_Gunner: Well you don't have to worry about CH being bought out - they're a side project from an industrial control system company.
Lord_ZYRK: Mysticman89 where's the fun in that?
Adamantcheese: oh gross it opened up the PDF in Edge
Anexmedia: Chromium Edge is fine
Adamantcheese: i mean, it's basically Chrome under the hood anyways
CrazyZonie: Edge is basically Chrome under the hood
Mysticman89: I think intelectually I've come to understand edge is actually fine, but it still has the IE taste to it
CrazyZonie: Google has gotten more market share... :(
DrakoniteStreams: no, edge is chromium based
Master_Gunner: yeah, I'm disappointed Edge dropped its own rendering engine.
DrakoniteStreams: edge was different, but MS gave up and switched to chromium
Mysticman89: the world needs more gaming browsers, like opera GX
Master_Gunner: Trident wasn't great, but it mostly worked, and was different.
Electrodyne: I'm from The Internet, and we dislike Internet Explorer
DrakoniteStreams: unpopular opinion: pre-chromium Edge, and even late IE, were decent browsers
SquareDotCube: Yeah, we could use a new web browser built from scratch.
Mysticman89: if they just named edge something not starting with E and gave it a different logo entirely, it'd probably go over better
e_bloc: the problem for me is IE drove me to firefox then chrome and now I don't feel like leaving chrome for another browser
DrakoniteStreams: people like to hate on MS, even when they do good things
e_bloc: chrome isn't perfect but it sure is fine
CrazyZonie: People see Microsoft as big bad from how they were in the 90's, despite Apple, Google, Facebook, and Amazon doing way worse and getting away with it.
Master_Gunner: Agreed, Drakonite. I used IE11 and Edge extensively for work, and they were always fine and performed as I expected.
aquinas_0: i'm sticking with firefox
aquinas_0: because chrome is just bringing back all my old headaches with IE
DarkMorford: I currently work at Microsoft, so no comment. :P
aquinas_0: and I won't enable that
SquareDotCube: Or, more preferably, websites should really scrape away at the unnecessary complexity of their sites caused by practically excessive backwards compatible scripting.
fexworldwide: Blue 'e' icon, bundled with Windows and can't be removed? Yeah, it could render things perfectly and give free back massages, and I'm not trusting it.
Adamantcheese: super russian is just extended ascii
TangleTrail: vroom vroom
SquareDotCube: Oh, and move away from so much javascript, please.
Mysticman89: I use firefox primarily, but I might switch to chrome on my next fresh build just because chrome is apparently the mainstream thing and being able to quickly see where stuff is for 'most' people is nice.
DrakoniteStreams: eww. is this the best tool out there right now?
aquinas_0: @Mysticman89 Oh, please don't
Driosenth: Ian, could you say "Moose and Squirrel" in that accent?
aquinas_0: we're headed right back into the IE6 dark age, as a web dev it makes me cry
Mysticman89: I might also just roll with multiple browsers
DarkMorford: I'm still a Firefox guy. Haven't been able to find a tab-group plugin for Chrome that works the way I want it to.
Adamantcheese: @DrakoniteStreams this is pretty normal for a firmware loader, they're usually pretty ugly but utilitarian
Mysticman89: or opera gx for the memes
Electrodyne: i use that internet where the nice man tells me when I have mail
DarkMorford: Though I do have Chrome installed for testing or the odd site that doesn't work in FF.
e_bloc: Corgo500 regular crispy day, TTSF, and 24 hours of LRRmans in one week? its almost too much
Mysticman89: rtx? your joystick has ray tracing?
Electrodyne: Something-maIania
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Mysticman89: just get rolling witht netscape
togashinaruta: i honestly miss Safari for windows
DeM0nFiRe: The android version of firefox recently changed in dumb ways, I am so annoyed by it
Adamantcheese: then you crack open an XP VM and open up IE6
aquinas_0: @DeM0nFiRe you can get the url bar back up top, no fix for the resorted bookmarks or the missing about:config yet
Electrodyne: Do you have some Crimson Skies to test it?
DarkMorford: @DeM0nFiRe Yeah, I got a new Android tablet about a month ago. Downloaded Firefox and couldn't find shit.
DrakoniteStreams: Oh no. I've been working for an I don't know number of hours without running my time tracking software
Electrodyne: "Apparently you haven't" - @drakonitestreams's employer
Electrodyne: I share your bad feels, buddy
SquareDotCube: Into the future?
nanostul: If I told you - you have a beautiful wire, would you hold it against me?
DrakoniteStreams: @Electrodyne fortunately it's only for my internal use, and I report just number of hours to my clients. I very strictly would never agree to using any tracking software from a client or employer.
delta__vee: no, it takes longer than that :D
Electrodyne: oh good!
DarkMorford: Win+P, Ian
DrakoniteStreams: P for Projector, which was original marketing intent of switching displays around dynamically
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DarkMorford: P for "Project". It opens a drawer on the side of the screen for quick switching.
Rynehawk: all crimp and no play make Ian a dull boy....
Lord_ZYRK: There is only darkness now. Embrace the void.
Electrodyne: yeah can we crimp more connectors if this doesn't work?
delta__vee: from going frame by frame in the VOD, the last upload attempted exited with our old friend ' "W:\MM_Joy2\eex\firmware\firmware_lufa_[MMJOY_ATMEGA32U4].hex: No such file or directory'
ContingentCat: hello darkness my old friend...
DarkMorford: Also, Ian, I have a build of the logger for this weekend to send you after the stream. If you could play a bit with it running tonight or tomorrow just to make sure it can connect and doesn't crash, that'd be great.
ContingentCat: wow
korvys: W is for Wumbo
MWGNZ: waluigi drive?
Raiger: W for WHYYYYYY
Master_Gunner: People with 23 hard drives, obviously.
Juliamon: for "what, why?"
ContingentCat: w for Wahh
Mysticman89: W for whatthehell
eric_christian_berg: Ian, you magnificent bastard. I read your BIOS!
Electrodyne: Everything is possible with Wumbocom
Craqgerbil: when I add hard drives I start with Z and work backward
GreayStone: w= why
Lord_ZYRK: I thought that was weird in delta__vee's post, but chalked it up to Ian being Ian LUL
Raiger: Honestly...same, Lord_ZYRK
WalrusOntheCourt: How do you NOT have a W drive? You sound like a man with less than 16 drives...
DarkMorford: I letter my drives based on what I'm using them for. M is music, V is virtual machines, G is games...
Anaerin: WalrusOntheCourt Mount Points.
BernyyGG: ahh yes, the Marvel Cinematics Universe port
Mysticman89: oh, theres inevitably dark tech wizards here, does anyone know if the concept of negative file size exists?
Lord_ZYRK: Just as a note: I am here explicitly for the Digimon references.
DrakoniteStreams: alright, enough pretending to work for now. I'll be back after my commute out of this office
DarkMorford: I do wish Windows/NTFS had better support for mounting volumes in the filesystem instead of giving them drive letters, though. It works, but not as well as I'd like.
Lord_ZYRK: Last time I downloaded more RAM my browser read it as a negative file size Kappa
MWGNZ: z is normal for thrust i think?
Mysticman89: I don't recall why the notion ever crossed my mind, but I could maybe see some unholy hackery where something is set as a negative file size to do something
ContingentCat: !advice
LRRbot: You passed it.
DrakoniteStreams: whew, oaky. long commute is over
DarkMorford: @Mysticman89 If you have a really dumb filesystem that uses a signed value for size, then it's possible, but I can't say whether it would necessarily have any ill effect.
Electrodyne: @drakonitestreams how was the traffic
DrakoniteStreams: @Electrodyne didn't see a single car. which is good. Really don't need another car crashing through the side of my apartment building anytime soon
MWGNZ: negative file size might do something similar to a buffer underflow where you can overwrite the file 'before' the one you have open, depending on how well filesystems are coded
Mysticman89: one of the use cases for such a concept probably is intentionally nefarious. A less sketchy use might be to make folders look like they have less stuff in them than they really do
DarkMorford: "Save sets to device" is top-center in the UI, but it's disabled. Either the program isn't finding your Teensy or you need to select it somehow.
Electrodyne: "$" = "Capital 4"
DrakoniteStreams: teensy? I thought he was using a pro micro?
ContingentCat: show me potato salad!
DarkMorford: @Drakas Same chip, same firmware, different PCB. Don't even worry about it.
Electrodyne: [X]
DarkMorford: Oops. @DrakoniteStreams, sorry
Lord_ZYRK: Y'know, now that I'm looking at the UI closer, it has Joystiñk over to the right there.
ContingentCat: is it shy?
MWGNZ: Lord_ZYRK there's also the USBDeview button bottom right
Driosenth: does it expect a 10K pot?
Lord_ZYRK: MWGNZ I saw that one, but it doesn't seem quite as comical.
DrakoniteStreams: @DarkMorford oh, forgot the teensy 2.0 was a 32u4. literally the only teensy board I haven't used (or have on order. haven't received the 4.1 for my synth project yet)
DarkMorford: Nah, that one just launches a tool called USBDeview. It's for viewing the connected USB Devices, oddly enough. ;)
Lord_ZYRK: MIC FIVE
BassArpeggio: Do you have a link to notes or logs on this project? I am attempting something similar but not as far along as you are.
ContingentCat: ooo numbers!
DarkMorford: Ian, maybe try the "Direct Input Viewer" button on the bottom? Might show you exactly what the pins are seeing.
MWGNZ: BassArpeggio reddits /r/HotasDIY may also be of help
Manae: Is the LRR wiki kept up to date on episodes? Might be easier to find a specific VOD there
DarkMorford: Ah, nuts. Worth a shot, I guess.
delta__vee: what was that image you had with the pins?
BassArpeggio: Thanks! I am stuck on finding the right firmware to flash my chip. I'm a hardware guy and don't know much about programming.
korvys: Ian, did I ever send you the Ars Technical article about the polish guy who custom makes flight pedals, where you have to *wire transfer* him $500 to order?
korvys: *Ars Technica
DarkMorford: What's the voltage on the Power pin? And which pins on the pot are connected where?
CrazyZonie: So, Ian, now long do you make a custom cockpit?
MWGNZ: korvys those are some good looking pedals
Master_Gunner: Korvys, I remember that from looking at flight sticks and stuff years ago. Crazy stuff, but apparently it's a good product.
DarkMorford: Also, do you know specifically what model Teensy that is? Pinout might be slightly different from the Arduino.
DarkMorford: Ah, okay then.
Mysticman89: I should get in habit of reading ars more regularly, I think most of the interesting articles im linked come from there
DarkMorford: This diagram is confusing me. A lot of the pins labeled as "Axis source" (the A[xx} ones) are digital pins. They can't read analog signals, so how can they process a joystick axis?
eric_christian_berg: It's been doing that since you loaded, actually.
Dumori: N U M B E R S
Lord_ZYRK: Since when? Kappa
eric_christian_berg: Wondering when you'd notice. :)
DeM0nFiRe: LUL
CrazyZonie: Sounds like a corporate chant "We have values!"
SquareDotCube: Are are they at a village?
Adamantcheese: u did it champ
tipulsar85: Ready for Saturday?
eric_christian_berg: lrrCREEPL lrrCREEPR
CrazyZonie: You still have to mount the USB port to the case.
LiveFaust: So it's become adequately crispy for today?
CrazyZonie: Unless you're going to make the cable part of the build.
eric_christian_berg: Duct tape!
eric_christian_berg: (I'm helping.)
CrazyZonie: Don't forget to tell Cori that chat says "hi!"
jessieimproved: !patreon
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DrakoniteStreams: therea48Shock another project success
Nigouki: thanks for the stream!
delta__vee: @DarkMorford, the pinout in sparkfun's overview gives a better idea of the overloaded functions of the different pins https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/pro-micro--fio-v3-hookup-guide/hardware-overview-pro-micro
Texan_Reverend: Really looking forward to the 24 Hours of LRRMans again this year, Ian. Big hype!
DoodlestheGreat: See you this Saturday, Ian!
Driosenth: 5 AM
Driosenth: Race fast safe car #Teampalindrome
Juliamon: a MYSTERY!
DrakoniteStreams: have a night therea48Wave
GreayStone: goodnight
DoodlestheGreat: Isn't the last PAX "Ask LRR" panel coming up in a few hours?
Juliamon: !next
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TehAmelie: 7:30 in the morning, i think i'll have to skip that panel
Juliamon: The VOD will be there for you.
Juliamon: I still have to watch the EU panel
DoodlestheGreat: I just finished watching that one.
TehAmelie: well have fun
Earthenone: !advice
LRRbot: Racism, stop it!
DoodlestheGreat: Sounds good to me.