frozenphoenix7: Known issue to apparently not G
SerGarretCameron: Paul said he was working on it, but it's not a huge concern.
SnowBuddy18: it's the delay between Earth and the moon, duh
satyropodobny: Dubbed Graham is best Graham
TophTheHermit: Twitch itself has been buggy on and off recently
RegulusPratus: Ser Garret Cameron is behind it. Mega sus.
monkeyrama: Paul keeping secrets Kappa
cynimo: thats because dice friends runs on D&D time which is known to be weird
Akaiatana: TBH, we through the sync at our opponent there
Ba_Dum_Tish: Paul is a tech wizard
SmashTCG: so i purchased some chips by a brand called "paqui", called "haunted ghost pepper chips"
SmashTCG: and they are very hot
Akaiatana: Threw*
TheMerricat: But do they come with a ghost?
F1SHOR: sound just doesn't travel as fast as light but if anyone can fix that it's Paul 😂
SmashTCG: i can feel the souls of those Ghost pepers
monkeyrama: lol, the same setup
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monkeyrama: Cat gets a counter, right?
RegulusPratus: Protect the Grow-Kitty
TehAmelie: the question we have to ask is, in what medium will sound travel at the same speed as light?
F1SHOR: we are winning the race so far if we just keep attacking
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DotaProp: Hello Id like to opt out of the rest of 2021. PBS Cancelled Caillou
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monkeyrama: No blocks :O
Ba_Dum_Tish: Choo choo
F1SHOR: no blocks is wild
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Pewnisher: heey
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RegulusPratus: There is literally no chance that Opp has hard removal in Black-White Kappa
monkeyrama: seabatUseless seabatUseless seabatUseless
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DotaProp: stopped airing the syndication
BlightningHelix: I believe it's that they're going to stop airing it
fiftymcnasty: Yes they are stoping reruns
magical_writer: Cancelling it means no one is allowed to reference it anymore.
TehAmelie: suddenly, network error. i do believe twitch is going through the wringer
Akaiatana: "Cancelling Caillou" is a bald-kid lie
MyClosePersonalFriendJohn: Caillou is too popular now. Can't have something that popular on PBS.
LurkerSpine: It's no longer being aired
LurkerSpine: on PBS
satyropodobny: seabatUseless what did Caillou do?
djalternative: PBS has an increadibly relationship with their childrens tv shows
LemonOnRye: What didn't he do?
Makimachine: Oh, Caillou, I thought G said Kaiju and I was very interested.
circusofkirkus: From Caillou with Love
monkeyrama: Dang
TheMerricat: - @MyClosePersonalFriendJohn I think maybe it's the opposite.
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monkeyrama: I think James is still waiting to get Richard Dreyfus in his Caillou discord
TehAmelie: Caillou vs Kaiju would be a thing i'd be interested in watching, or even just hearing
Ba_Dum_Tish: Get James in on the call
ChaoticObserver: PBS is basically removing its reruns from the schedule, I imagine because rights are running out
monkeyrama: Maybe then he'll do your podcast
TabbyLavalamp: Get James to draw the next card.
Anxious_Millennial_Cowboy: to be fair by the LRR bylaws all watchalong podcasts need to be done with Wiggins
CommanderPulsar: James and Matt Caillou rewatch show when?
Ba_Dum_Tish: That will get you land
Duhstink: do you move the pickaxe for next turn?
Duhstink: oh more than 1 nvm
kslsrocks: That's it!
niccus: sometimes a rewatch covers both if you end up having a comprehensive watch
SpiffGames: Caillou RPG Actual Play Podcast
niccus: caillou book for fiasco
Kramburger: If you're making a rewatch podcast you have to either have Matt on or buy him a coffee, legally speaking
TehAmelie: come to think, do you French-Canadians with anime knowledge pronounce Caillou and Kaiju different at all?
monkeyrama: Big money cat
LemonOnRye: Caillou the Masquerade when?
Ba_Dum_Tish: Come on and maow
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monkeyrama: We def want that celebrant dead
TehAmelie: i know Brittish Colombia is hardly the French part of Canada, but i did not think about that when i said that before
CanPlayGames: Did Graham Change while I was gone?
monkeyrama: sergeOffByOne 👀
monkeyrama: He may have swapped sides since you left?
frankscx: Graham_LRR used Polymorph. It was very effective
monkeyrama: Ending on a win seabatPjorg
Muddy_Thunder: technically Graham changed from past Graham to now Graham.
monkeyrama: 22k clips, oh my
F1SHOR: I don't thing graham lost a game the whole time I was watching
62MGcobra: but what about duplicates
circusofkirkus: based mods sergeModLove
LemonOnRye: I make a lot of accidental clips LUL
RayFK: I'm really glad I made it in with a golden shower joke...thanks Cori
airddragon: Discovered that there was cheaper remakes of Caillou on Amazon Prime in 2016. Yes made 'cheaper' remakes of a historically terribly animated show.
satyropodobny: @Muddy_Thunder technically Graham is perpetualy changing into now Graham
GhostValv: :)
monkeyrama: You can delete accidental clips if you make them, btw, chat
magical_writer: cheer50 thank you
Ba_Dum_Tish: We do indeed enjoy
niccus: listen to a tv scream!
monkeyrama: Thanks for streaming, Graham and Adam
HundreydAundre: aw, noes! Drafts ended...O's wells-puh.
Ukon_Cairns: yeah, twitch occasionally doesnt load all the buttons on the bottom at the same time, so you click on settings and it moves to the side and suddenly you makin a clip lrrSPOOP
RayFK: Kaldheim presale is up!
Lord_Hosk: I thumbs down every clip made by RayFK just out of spite. Thats not true I love Jordan and he makes the best clips
frankscx: Thanks for screaming, Ian's television
Muddy_Thunder: seabatBRAIN seabatBRAIN @satyropodobny
serramarkov: All goodness to all y'all!
HundreydAundre: Anyway, Onward, Ian...!!!
DeM0nFiRe: o/ lrrHEART
TehAmelie: this stream specifically is only sponsored by Card Kingdom, so all our sponsorship goes tothe other, fan sponsored streams, amounting to ultimately no difference
TehAmelie: i'm making this up by the way
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RandomTrivia: Interestingly, it seems there's always a clip with default (stream) title from each stream from each person that clips within that stream. I have yet to work out how/why
TehAmelie: sounds like a case for. . .random trivia
RandomTrivia: lrrSIGNAL !
DeM0nFiRe: lrrSIGNAL
RandomTrivia: @TehAmelie Right? You'd think so. But I have to research these things :D
TehAmelie: i'm thinking twitch staff would be best equipped to figure it out
LRRTwitter: @loadingreadyrun> It’s time for Tinker Tailor Solder Fry, and Ian’s old plasma TV screams like a banshee. Let’s see if we can sooth this Samsung beast. 📷 ||
DeM0nFiRe: I have never heard a TV scream before I am curious
TehAmelie: most of what i know about plasma screens is that when they launched they cost about 15000 dollars in 1990s money and then they dropped to half that after one week
CanPlayGames: !next\
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LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: Tinker Tailor Solder Fry (Ian’s old Plasma TV screams like a banshee. Let’s see if we can tame that noisy beast.) at Thu 05:00 PM PST (9m ago).
CanPlayGames: Herp derp
TheManaLeek: Are plasma TV capacitors less dangerous than CRTs?
SnowBuddy18: @TehAmelie I'm sorry how bussing much?????
TehAmelie: but the fourth state of matter is always exciting (so to speak)
TehAmelie: yes that lrrEFF much
satyropodobny: it might be Pioneer Kuro. I hope it's Pioneer Kuro.
RandomTrivia: Novelty is a POWERFUL advertising tool
LoadingReadyRun: I wish it was a Pioneer Kuro
satyropodobny: @LoadingReadyRun we can roleplay it is
DrakoniteStreams: TheManaLeek "less dangerous" is not a phrase I'd like to use with either of those things :|
NotCainNorAbel: My samsung plasma just started turning on and off randomly. I knew I could replace the caps but instead I bought a new one.
TheAinMAP: Hello.
RebekahWSD: God I love the opening so much
TehAmelie: shalom
RandomTrivia: L O R G E screen time!
Mysticman89: did you bring a rpiest for this to banish the banshee?
bubbles_the_unicorn: Yes! I made it just in time
patbaer: that is, indeed, a tv
SnowBuddy18: @NotCainNorAbel you can also just disconnect the panel and use a remote
Juliamon: Look at that big boi
RandomTrivia: Welcome bubbles_the_unicorn! Glad you could make it!
Juliamon: Please, treat us to The Scream
TheWriterAleph: there are... hundreds... of lights!
PhorrestGaze: is this the screamer?
Mysticman89: bezels from the old times
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rrtycoon2: Almost to gold! also please don't crack the screen! I once did...
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TehAmelie: that's bigger than a heckin chonker
NotCainNorAbel: @SnowBuddy18 I'm pretty sure mine were part of the actual power side of things. there was a recall but I would need to ship (at my cost) out.
Electrodyne: Maximum Effort!!
ImmoralEthicist: I have this same problem! Can't wait to see how you sort it
LoadingReadyRun: PN50A550
SnowBuddy18: @NotCainNorAbel definitely not worth
bubbles_the_unicorn: Oh no!
SnackPak_: You know us so well, Ian
WhoseGamewasitZ: Light Emitting Diodes.
Yakster221B: Hey folks, that TV is very large
TehAmelie: important question: what did this TV cost?
bubbles_the_unicorn: How old is this tv?
NightWingMistHawk: NGL, when I opened this stream I was surprised at the sheer size of this screaming lad.
Electrodyne: They use Foster's?
Mysticman89: what's the latest acronymn of fnacy TVs? QNED or something like that?
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CranstonSnord: Ian's donating plasma?
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Arclight_Dynamo: Toobs!
bubbles_the_unicorn: Aren’t fluorescent light gas poisonous?
RandomTrivia: This is where it is *silent* just to spite Ian
SpiffGames: I had a Pioneer plasma 10ish years ago, and it was gorgeous
Yakster221B: Say the noise Bart
ritchards: Problem sovled! on next TTSF...
userFSP: @Mysticman89 I think you're looking for OLED Kappa
TwitchTVsFrank: fixed
PhorrestGaze: fixed!
Earthenone: guess its fixed!
Lord_Hosk: you fixed it!
Zalbaag: Job complete?
DeM0nFiRe: We fixed it! Good stream!
62MGcobra: FIXED!!!!
bubbles_the_unicorn: Time to put in my headphones
Wolfstrike_NL: Fixed!
TheManaLeek: Yay we fixed it!
RandomTrivia: Seems about right. Good work Ian!
SpiffGames: They do get hot!
SnackPak_: it's fixed! lrrBEEJ
BlueMagnusStormCrow: Fixed!
RebekahWSD: Good job!
RandomTrivia: lrrFINE
Electrodyne: I hope it doesn't make the noise so we can take credit for fixing it
satyropodobny: goodnight everybody! Next up...
DrakoniteStreams: bubbles_the_unicorn the gas used shouldn't be, but flourescent lighting uses mercury which vaporizes in the tube and is very very bad if the tube breaks
62MGcobra: quickest TTSF ever
LordZarano: oh, thats a reflection
Arclight_Dynamo: Ian, pls no static. It kills Twitch compression.
SpiffGames: Oh wow, too cold is interesting
The_Voices: cold start causes problems, got it
TehAmelie: hmm i have a LED tn from 2010, what are the odds it's actually LCD?
userFSP: So what you're saying is you should never put these TVs outside in the winter Kappa
RandomTrivia: Oops, there goes the compression
Lord_Hosk: offf twitch
frankscx: TV static instantly sends twitch video compression down the tubes
TehAmelie: *TV
bubbles_the_unicorn: Ah ok
userFSP: monkaS
SirBiffaloEsq: Tv go brrrrr
satyropodobny: you could cover the screen
bubbles_the_unicorn: XD
TheAinMAP: lrrIAN guyjudgeAA guyjudgeAA
userFSP: are these technical terms? Kappa
LordZarano: Static is mathematically incompressible
TheMerricat: That sounds a lot like the power supply going bad
SnowBuddy18: @userFSP yes, TV tech jargon
bubbles_the_unicorn: Yeeeee
RandomTrivia: userFSP All of this is technical lingo
WhoseGamewasitZ: That's why I dont use Twitch audio compression. I use FrankerfaceZ compression. it auto fixes it.
PhorrestGaze: not a yeeeeee, but a full yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?
7gorobei: @bubbles_the_unicorn cfl contain a small amount of mercury vapor. it is toxic but minute. if one breaks, leave the room and the vapor will eventually disperse into the atmosphere
satyropodobny: so what, faulty power unit?
TehAmelie: is it trying to go critical and turn into a TV star?
petey_vonwho: now, if we get to 20 seconds of YEEEEET! then you have a real issue
TehAmelie: should we put it in Jupiter's orbit?
Mysticman89: OLED is a thing but thaeres like QNED now, apparently mixing quantum dot, nanocell, and mini led techs.
bubbles_the_unicorn: @7gorobei and @drakonitestreams thanks
Lord_Hosk: frrrrrrt
bubbles_the_unicorn: XD
RandomTrivia: Well said, Hosk
userFSP: monkaS
Arclight_Dynamo: Did you Greek the TV for stream, or do you cover over the brand for aesthetics?
Mysticman89: (or like QNED now might be wrong, but qned at CES 2021 maybe perhaps.)
satyropodobny: RIP Ian's back. I'll remember it fondly.
RandomTrivia: lrrFINE
StreetRach: Lay a blanket down on the table?
Driosenth: Do you want to put a blanket under between the screen and the table?
Electrodyne: @lord_hosk I appreciate you for subtitling the sound effects
TehAmelie: i was just told that tilting plasma screens even slightly at any point could kill them :x
ritchards: I was always told "don't lie plasma tvs down, they will bulge"
TheWriterAleph: that's a big ol lad
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PhorrestGaze: to late
satyropodobny: or cardboard
SpiffGames: it's okay, the bezel is taking the brunt
TheMerricat: @TehAmelie that was also what I knew
RandomTrivia: Don't even worry about it lrrBEEJ
Doc_Layzah: lrrFINE
TehAmelie: well it's too late to worry now
JonnyGlitch: Hey that's my TV!
bubbles_the_unicorn: Put it on the wall if you want a view of next room
userFSP: Oh, I didn't know Samsung made plasma TVs
RandomTrivia: lrrFINE
Yakster221B: Screen is GO
LordZarano: Oh yeah, plasma tvs are very very heavy
MichaelVYee: pooPB
userFSP: I thought they were LCD back then
satyropodobny: lrrHERE
SnowBuddy18: probably both
Electrodyne: Look at them Component Video connections. Is there a SPDIF passtgrough too?
frankscx: hopefully not a 'sinful towel'
rrtycoon2: if you hear a crunch, then you're ionized gassed....
DeM0nFiRe: I have to move a LCD TV soon and I can't find a consistent answer on whether it matters if I move it not upright
SpiffGames: That Laputa art in the background is great
TehAmelie: are they heavyit because of the plasma being contained in super dense environments? i'm guessing no
Mysticman89: the art piece with TEETH in the background is wild.
Akaiatana: It's okay to have a different camera angle, we get Abby Howard's frand staring at us
JonnyGlitch: Oh I love that Laputa poster! Such a great movie
TehAmelie: *heavy
TheMerricat: @TehAmelie so a quick google for why you aren't supposed to lay a tv on it's side or tilt it is the glass of the screen is not that strong against 'flexing' movements. So they are worried that you'd crack the 'tube'
TehAmelie: aha
NotCainNorAbel: @DeM0nFiRe I have moved a plasma with it horizontal. It is a risk but not certain death.
SnowBuddy18: @TehAmelie I think it's that they're compressed in glass, and that much glass is heavy
Mysticman89: just get one of those fancy rollable screens and then you dont need to worry
JonnyGlitch: Plasma must have a glass front, LCDS can get away without glass, IIRC
userFSP: TTours
DrakoniteStreams: DeM0nFiRe LCDs are pretty robust, as long as you don't flex/apply torsion to the screen, or hit it with something
JonnyGlitch: much better angle!
DeM0nFiRe: I ended up recruiting some help so I think I can transport it uopright fine. But originally I was gonna move it face down or face up alone since it's not heavy, just awkward
userFSP: HeyGuys
TheWriterAleph: womwomwom
Angelic_Bovines: hey, it's us!
JonnyGlitch: Sounds like a Didgeridoo
TehAmelie: i've had glasses on my face for 30 years, you don't have to tell me about the weight of glass
RandomTrivia: Thanks again Hosk
SnowBuddy18: that was a sound
DrakoniteStreams: D: that was a sound
Arclight_Dynamo: #AccidentalDigeridoo
bubbles_the_unicorn: XD
SnowBuddy18: Hosk providing the CC for random sounds
frankscx: a decent ass view indeed. check out dat ass
JonnyGlitch: I'm pretty sure I have this exact model
userFSP: How many screws will be left over once you reassemble the TV? Kappa
TehAmelie: all about that bass, etc
JonnyGlitch: no wait mine has a ton more HDMI ports
TStodden: G'Evening... I hoping the "Fry" part of the show name DOESN'T happen.
PhorrestGaze: chat will remind you where they go. don't worry about it. trust us.
Electrodyne: Oh yeah, there's that SPDIF flap baybee!
GentleSquirre1: idk if i missed it but whats the issue with the tv?
Molladia: that looks like it's the TV we use as a wallboard at work
patbaer: I'm here for the Tinkering, and not the Frying.
JonnyGlitch: I love my plasma, the picture is great as long as there's no reflection
DrakoniteStreams: @DeM0nFiRe if you're moving, the best way to move a modern tv is to have it upright, sandwiched between a pair of mattresses (or so I have been told by multiple movers)
userFSP: I didn't know capacitors could make noise that loud
DeM0nFiRe: I am actually not even getting a truck because I am moving down the street a very short distance. Gonna move my stuff with a hand dolly down the sidewalk lol
TehAmelie: "remind me chat, does this screw go clockwise or widdershins?" "go left" "err"
GentleSquirre1: interesting. and what are we going to attept to fix it
JonnyGlitch: Capacitors can do LOTS of things!
Arclight_Dynamo: Is the sound literally made by the cap, or is it feeding noise into the speakers?
JonnyGlitch: including kill you
userFSP: Oh, ok
Arclight_Dynamo: Oh, thank god. :D
machcymus: gross
bubbles_the_unicorn: Ewww
JonnyGlitch: the toothpick was the only thing holding it together
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Electrodyne: Lots of DNA in there
SnowBuddy18: the TV might be lighter if you remove the dust
SirBiffaloEsq: Garrus, Grenade!
bubbles_the_unicorn: XD maybe
JonnyGlitch: Ves-ah?
viscountstyx: Vosa
JonnyGlitch: thicc bois
DrakoniteStreams: I've always heard it pronounced Vesa
SajuukSjet: woo, VESA mount points :D
TehAmelie: in videogames capacitors are usually just "generate energy for free" items. such good times
Molladia: I pronounce it as vesa too.
Electrodyne: VESA, it's everywhere you want to be
mercano82: I think you’ll find that they’re called MasterCard mounts.
niccus: my pseudo-craft-along is trying out one of those canned fried dace with black beans you always see in asian stores, in a simple stir-fry
leebenningfield: how old is the tv?
bubbles_the_unicorn: Ten years?
SpiffGames: it's its 12th birthday!
Bobtheninjagoldfish: So, how did you find out how do to do this repair, Ian?
Electrodyne: Old enough to be high-end and not have DVI
Butternades: Oh so that’s a bulky tv dang
JonnyGlitch: built in Anti-Aliasing
TehAmelie: almost as old as Duke Nukem Forever's dev cycle
leebenningfield: I have a 2008 52" Samsung LCD model that I'm having problems with. I already replaced it but I'd like to see if I can fix it up.
NovaKat13: its not bulky he thicc
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LordZarano: The manual is on Archive org if anyone wants to follow along
JonnyGlitch: I think I got mine around 2011 - 2012, same time I bought my house
Butternades: I am very happy that TV’s and screens in general have been getting lighter. I would not want to drag an older tv up to my third floor room
leebenningfield: yeah, I found a lot of replacement parts when searching up the model number
Angelic_Bovines: scalp
NovaKat13: will you cook the tv? i just got here
TheMerricat: Anyone else old enough that their family kept the exact same (old tech CRT/SD) TV for their entire childhood and only bought a new one when they were forced to by the digital conversion?
Driosenth: OLEDS
theCubeMiser: is it relatively safe to work on LCD/Plasma TVs? I have an old LCD that has fan noise, wasn't sure if I should see about replacing a fan myself.
DrakoniteStreams: I need a larger tv, but my current one is so amazingly nice (just too small for room size and failing vision) I can't bare the thought of replacing it
userFSP: I bought an OLED TV on Boxing Day to replace an old 32 inch Polaroid TV I have mounted on my wall, are they really that much lighter?
Arclight_Dynamo: @TheMerricat Yuuup.
LadyAiluros: <message deleted>
RandomTrivia: Raise the panel!
LadyAiluros: wrong window
SnackPak_: lrrFINE
JonnyGlitch: Gaming was good exercise when you had to lug a CRT to your friends place for an XBOX party
RandomTrivia: *CLONK*
BusTed: Ok then.
Molladia: My parents brought a TV in '89, then only updated AFTER Analog was turned off
TheMerricat: @theCubeMiser Plasmas are much more 'unsafe' to work with than LCDs due to the high voltage capacitors in them.
DeM0nFiRe: @TheMerricat Yeah, we had the same big console CRT for my entire childhood and only upgraded when it was having problems and a rear projection CRT was available for free lol. Only got LCD after that one died too haha
Bobtheninjagoldfish: Hello, Highlight reel
Butternades: @drakonitestreams what size are you looking at? I have a really cheap sceptre tv that’s worked well for me
RandomTrivia: It's supposed to do that?!
bubbles_the_unicorn: Uhhhhh
bubbles_the_unicorn: No
Electrodyne: Time for the separating tool
patbaer: it's always something.
wintertempest: well, it did lift right off the panel
userFSP: Does that mean we have liftoff Kappa
Electrodyne: Anything under those stickers?
Driosenth: Only annoying thing I found with my OLED is that it auto-dims every five minutes if a frame doesn't have more than 1/4 of the screen change pixel values.
LadyAiluros: sorry mods, that was supposed to go to a teacher groupcat :(
Mysticman89: using more than the absolute minimum number of screws takes more effort than most can be bothered with these days
userFSP: Wowee
Electrodyne: nice
Arclight_Dynamo: Time to start licking things!
Deathrite_Sharkman: im back and what the bus is going on
JonnyGlitch: that's a lot of capacitors!
Despoiler98: thats a lot of stuff
Butternades: Lick all the things
Juliamon: LadyAiluros I saw, noproblem :)
TehAmelie: heh. my mom bought what i have calculated to be one of the first color TVs in Sweden in about 1986 and it survived five moves plus me constantly carrying it up and down the stairs until Gears of War made it catch on fire in 2002
NovaKat13: lick the capacitors?
RandomTrivia: Oooh, wiring!
SnowBuddy18: cam stand goes brrrr
TStodden: Anything dealing with non-blood type plasma immediately increases doubles the danger factor...
SajuukSjet: Zoom In..... ENHANCE! :D
userFSP: aha!
LadyAiluros: @Juliamon did I double send too?
DrakoniteStreams: @Butternades I don't even know for sure. currently have a 46" and guessing 60" would be great
SpiffGames: it focused!
Bobtheninjagoldfish: @Deathrite_Sharkman TTSF is happening. perfectly normal.
Driosenth: is that a VGA input for testing?
Juliamon: Nope, you're good!
viscountstyx: nah that's an actual vga
Deathrite_Sharkman: @Bobtheninjagoldfish graham and adam were draftong when i left LUL
Driosenth: Oh, thats the IO
Electrodyne: brrrrrt
LadyAiluros: no TV's of the time had VGA
LadyAiluros: i have an LCD that has VGA
Butternades: @drakonitestreams the tv I have is a 55”. Light enough to carry up multiple flights of stairs no problem, not the nicest but functional
JonnyGlitch: yeah VGA came standard with flatscreens for a while
NovaKat13: no touch just lick
Bobtheninjagoldfish: @Deathrite_Sharkman ah. I see. gennaLUL
LadyAiluros: it makes a dandy monitor for the Mac G3
Driosenth: doesn't look like there are any bulging or blow caps
Arclight_Dynamo: Those caps are full of Kill-You Juice.
SnackPak_: no bulging friends?
Electrodyne: Yeah I used to play City of Heroes on a giant Sony CRT with VGA
TStodden: That's the "Zappy Zappy, No Touchy" department...
Manae: "Lick the power supply" sounds like some lrrbot badadvice
Earthenone: !badadvice
LadyAiluros: I don't see anyone ooozing ick so that's good
Driosenth: @Electrodyne was it a Sony Trinitron?
JonnyGlitch: Plasmas get HOT
TehAmelie: !advice
LRRbot: Just because you died doesn't mean it wasn't a good plan.
NovaKat13: licking any capacitor is always a bad time
TehAmelie: noo Lrrbot no
LadyDKat: !findquote lick
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Brozard: !badadvice
LRRbot: Sail up your mother.
bubbles_the_unicorn: XD
DoodlestheGreat: Honestly, that's a lot more discrete electronic parts than I expected in a flat screen.
LadyAiluros: yeah my parents still have a plasma in the rec room, it's what I end up using when I go home for my PS4. It still has a really good picture.
Butternades: I was amazed when I’d check the temps on my old plasma screen
mercano82: Also, no fans, so it all needs to be passively cooled
Electrodyne: @driosenth I want to say Yes but it's been a while
SajuukSjet: the thicc chunky'ness of the boards compared to how slim and delicate the data transfer cables are is always hilarious
RandomTrivia: *BONK*
SnowBuddy18: it's failing Ian, I'm not sick
userFSP: HeyGuys
Driosenth: Ian, do you use the speakers or do you have external ones? You could just disable them if your chip swap doesn't fix the issue
Spluuga: the antenna connector looks ok tho
Arclight_Dynamo: Does your manual not have a diagram?
DrakoniteStreams: My dad worked in the cable industry, back in the crt days they'd do repairs on their equipment. At one point he got knocked out cold from a CRT discharging, and apparently at some point one of his coworkers ended up needing a hospital visit. They can be scary things.
TehAmelie: circuit boards always make me think of microscopic cities
Spluuga: well it says ok..
SnowBuddy18: @TehAmelie I'd read that novel
GentleSquirre1: YAY SOLDERING
DeM0nFiRe: TehAmelie Heh me too. I think it was also a common thing in like the 90s and probably a bit earlier to show animations of flying through circuitboards and having them look like cities
TehAmelie: i wanted to make that MMORPG
LordZarano: TVs now just have 2 boards, io/control & power. And they're tiny. Bigclivedotcom has a video about it
bubbles_the_unicorn: @tehamelie glad to know I’m not the only one who sees that
SnowBuddy18: the board is green because it's grass, we just don't know because it's that tiny
DrakoniteStreams: @DeM0nFiRe I still find those cool
Electrodyne: If I was to guess, that box the F connector is mounted on is probably an RF modulator
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Electrodyne: unless the tv has a cable decoder built in?
DeM0nFiRe: There was a thing called like Odyssey Into The Mind's Eye I think? That was neat music set to neat CG animations, and I think one of them was flying trhough a circuit board
Earthenone: we could call the mmo, circuit city! they arent using that name anymore are they?
bubbles_the_unicorn: I just noticed the art in the background
TehAmelie: you could start out in a map based on the physical interior of your computer, until you level up enough to [dial tone]. . .
DrakoniteStreams: Electrodyne a demodulator. that tv is right era to definitely be "cable ready"
mercano82: Ian has promised us a Sam Rami.
userFSP: I remember I took my laptop apart once to get the dust out and I pulled out one of the wires in those groups that are bundled by plastic
userFSP: FailFish
Mysticman89: since the problem didn't manifest itself when we tested at the start, how will we know if we fix anything?
miniMacGuru: What's broken on the TV?
Arclight_Dynamo: I think the worst electrical mishap I've been near was an Ontario Hydro worker who had opened up one of those transformer boxes on my neighbour's lawn. He touched the Bad Thing and, well, died. The really messed up part was the man-shaped patch of dead grass next to the transformer for the next few years.
SnowBuddy18: @miniMacGuru it's emulating a banshee
userFSP: Maybe we'll get a sequel to this stream! Kappa
userFSP: !twitter
miniMacGuru: Are we sure it's just not possessed by ghost?
DeM0nFiRe: I am always super paranoid about electronics. I've done some soldering for like guitars and also a keyboard once, but that is about it
TehAmelie: people stains are the worst. look up "the stain of Margaret Schilling" if you want to challenge your stomach
LordZarano: @arclight_dynamo bleh
TheWriterAleph: that got a 'holy shit' from both me and the wife, Arclight_Dynamo
Electrodyne: @drakonitestreams Right on
JonnyGlitch: how hard could it be!
mercano82: Rami would be proud.
LadyAiluros: how... tiny is that IRL?
Electrodyne: I wonder how much that whole board runs
LadyAiluros: ^
JonnyGlitch: looks about as big as a little fingernail?
Mysticman89: I wasn't sure what i was expecting when "people stains" was mentioned, but it wasn't that
LadyAiluros: just replace the board yeah
TehAmelie: the universe is such that, sometimes people independently recreate Sam Raimi's Evil Dead
JonnyGlitch: which finger?
DrakoniteStreams: Next step in my current project involves modifying some wifi power outlet thingers. I feel a little uneasy about that one.
theCubeMiser: @Electrodyne there's a "large" screw hole nearby. it's not big.
RandomTrivia: so smol
DeM0nFiRe: Wow those are like half the size I thought tehy were
bainard656: Just got here, is it going as well as the Dreamcast?
TheManaLeek: How big is your finger in IRL though?
LadyAiluros: you need one of those cool microscopes that Louis Rossman has :)
SirBiffaloEsq: Unfortunately, most people's hands do not get hot enough for solder work.
samb6678: hey he's gonna
TehAmelie: involuntarily, even
RandomTrivia: @bainard656 TV has yet to explode, melt or otherwise fail, so... yes
samb6678: he's gonna do the thing in the name of the show
Driosenth: I think R123 is a 0603 footprint
DeM0nFiRe: SirBiffaloEsq "most" 👀
daneislazy: ideally would just use a heat gun to reflow the part, real fast swap, but trickier with a soldering iron.
GentleSquirre1: just slap it alot and that would get it hot enough
samb6678: well maybe your's don't but
LadyAiluros misses the days of socketed IC's
Spluuga: is lager.. flux for humans?
LordZarano: What's the SMD-> pointing to?
DrakoniteStreams: oh I hate those
TehAmelie: heatsinks are the best and the worst
daneislazy: ooo, heat sink, yea need a heat gun
ForOhForError: ooh
mercano82: Johnny Storm missed an awesome opportunity to work in an electronics factory.
Electrodyne: MP2363DN 3A 27V 365khz Step-down converter
userFSP: Are the sorts of things they used to sell at Radioshack?
userFSP: Are these the*
Arclight_Dynamo: Can you explain WHY you need a heat gun?
SquareDotCube: Hot air gun, AKA inustrial strength hair blower. Kappa
LadyAiluros: @Arclight_Dynamo WHY NOT
RandomTrivia: no melt chat pls
Electrodyne: Nope, R@shack was never that fancy, you'd need to order from Allied or Mouser
Driosenth: Ian, Does the heat sink pad have vias through to the back of the PCB? If so, you can use an iron on that to flow the solder.
DrakoniteStreams: @Arclight_Dynamo impossible to heat the pad on the underside of the IC with an iron
Molladia: please remember to mute mic depending how loud it is
Arclight_Dynamo: @LadyAiluros I mean, fair, but that's not the technical answer I want. :D
Arclight_Dynamo: @DrakoniteStreams Ah! See, I'm looking for "You need to heat the heatsink pad on the bottom of the IC."
Driosenth: Dang
daneislazy: consumer heat guns don't always have the temperature control required to safely reflow parts without cooking the circuit boards. So yea, there are specialized ones for this task
TehAmelie: random quiz: would you like to live in a vacuum trawling spaceship with no real way to shed heat when you want?
Driosenth: kapton tape?
zuchen_120: Seems like a good night for Tinker Tail....OMG WHAT IS THAT ON THE WALL?? lol
TheMerricat: @LordZarano so normally SMD means "surface mount device" I'm guessing it's trying to point out that those components to the 'bottom' are surface mount instead of through hole.
Arclight_Dynamo: @zuchen_120 Art.
Driosenth: °C or °F?
TehAmelie: more a poll than a quiz
GentleSquirre1: absolute zero
JonnyGlitch: all the heat
WhoseGamewasitZ: The Miami Heat?
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ForOhForError: 5000 centigrade
Mikiao: somewhere between quite warm and Mount Doom
Electrodyne: Mmmmm, desoldering
KINGKRU: I can't stop looking at the painting in the background ....
7gorobei: wouldnt that depend on the type of solder?
Bobtheninjagoldfish: always start at 103. Becasue I'm hot blooded.
daneislazy: start low and work your way up, also depends if it's lead free solder or not
Arclight_Dynamo: If we get a large enough number of guesses, we can average them out and get pretty close to what we want./
Eille_k: i di dn't see the painting until you said something. and now i cannot stop seeing it.
TehAmelie: celcius makes the most sense. you heard it here first lrrBEEJ
userFSP: I'm just here to see how you're going to get that thing off because I know nothing about electronics MingLee
trilemma85: Can't you just give it a blast of the normal Ian level of hotness?
Mysticman89: Kelvin for life
Electrodyne: Before you choose a heat setting, do you know where your bulb is?
Driosenth: start at ~ 175 °C
LordZarano: @themerricat but it looks like all the components are surface mount all over
Molladia: Solder has a melting point of 90c
JonnyGlitch: I just got my graduation confirmation WHOOHOO
ghost_user_1984: IIRC 220 C
daneislazy: i think 700F is about max for lead free, probably start a bit lower
ghost_user_1984: For normal reflow soldering
Electrodyne: Squeezy bulb for sucking solder
Driosenth: 175 is on the low end, but better safe than sorry
userFSP: Is the solder going to... melt?
ghost_user_1984: Yes
Arclight_Dynamo: Google is giving me "Around 220 C."
ghost_user_1984: It’s like ice cream
ghost_user_1984: But metal
LordZarano: inb4 components start dropping off the other side of the board
DrakoniteStreams: I use leaded, which is 450-500F. lead-free needs a bit hotter
ghost_user_1984: And poisonous
Bobtheninjagoldfish: okay so I know next to nothing about this but.. why not melt it with a soldering Iron?
RandomTrivia: Super Hairdryer time!
Spluuga: and depends how much the board sinks heat
daneislazy: you'll probably see the legs(and other parts) reflow way before the bottom heat sink does
ghost_user_1984: You damage the connection
userFSP: I always thought liquid solder looked like mercury so I treat it as such
TheMerricat: @Bobtheninjagoldfish heat sink under it
JonnyGlitch: Every forward. Never Learning.
Driosenth: Do you have any scrap PCB you can practice with?
trilemma85: So far nothing is broken except the things that started as broken. So that's a good sign.
Bobtheninjagoldfish: @TheMerricat ah. lovely. thanks
Arclight_Dynamo: @Bobtheninjagoldfish It's attached on the bottom. Like, the flat, inaccessible aprt.
Arclight_Dynamo: *part
Electrodyne: I used to have a desoldering iron with a squeezy suction bulb right at the nozzle
DrakoniteStreams: tip: start with the gun a bit away from the board to 'preheat' a bit, bringing the general area up above ambient but not hot enough to melt
couldntpickausername: Ian, there's not a doubt in my mind that this will work fabulously, now excuse me while I go make a strawpoll....
daneislazy: @Driosenth good idea, could practice first
JonnyGlitch: Safety Thirdst
JonnyGlitch: Doctor's practice, so does Ian
Arclight_Dynamo: What's the combustion point of silicon? Kappa
RandomTrivia: Remember the motto of TTSF: "Ever forwards, never learning"
ghost_user_1984: Standard Fun, Fire, Safety?
daneislazy: worst think that can happen is a small part might fly off if the airflow is too high
DrakoniteStreams: remember. what is the worst that can happen, a tv that doesn't work continues to not work? :)
Molladia: why not direct iron the legs and suck the soder off separately?
Crock272: This doesn't look like an IPC J-STD Class 3 approved setup Ian...
DrakoniteStreams: Molladia chips has a pad underneath of it
Arclight_Dynamo: The worst part is the bump-thump noise when you move the camera.
samb6678: rip headphone users
r10pez10: i feel seen by the painting
Mikiao: I hate that chip... after what that chip said about me, it deserves to melt
JonnyGlitch: autofocus goin craaazy
TehAmelie: now we have opened that can of worms: for some months i've been trying to figure out when exactly you want that "everyday use" that justifies the existence of imperial measurements according to someone. feet especially. when do you want to measure stuff in increments larger than decimeters but smaller than meters?
Driosenth: Ian, does your regular iron have temp control, you can get a good estimate of what the rework needs by heating then sucking solder from one of the leads.
JonnyGlitch: but can't be helped
daneislazy: and if you get lucky when you lift the chip out, you don't need to add more solder when dropping the new one on
samb6678: @r10pez10 I feel like the painting has seen me
Electrodyne: seven days
Arclight_Dynamo: @TehAmelie Decimetres are not a common unit in NA.
JonnyGlitch: @samb6678 the painting sees all
TehAmelie: well, larger than centimeters then
Arclight_Dynamo: @TehAmelie So "foot" slides in nicely between "centimetre" and "metre."
JonnyGlitch: the painting is behind you
mercano82: I expect this to end with the chip descending into a pool of molten solder, a thumbs up held aloft.
LurkerSpine: wait
LurkerSpine: you can hot air gun out drink rings?
aWabbajack: if your mini fridge at medium settings start to suddenly freeze everything inside it, does that mean it's on it's last legs?
Molladia: thanks Cori
aWabbajack: came back from work and found out I had La Croix slushes
JonnyGlitch: Cori to the rescue!
Arclight_Dynamo: @TehAmelie Though I maintain I only ever want to use Imperial for *traditional* measures, like beer sizes and football fields. Metric for everything else.
RandomTrivia: Cori saves the day!
mercano82: Cori gets a producer credit.
Super_Sophomoric: Thanks Cori
TehAmelie: when do you need to measure stuff in that scale? is still the question. seems like a very much less than "everyday" case to me
Molladia: Doesn't Cori get an Executive Producer credit?
Arclight_Dynamo: What temp did Ian decide on?
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JonnyGlitch: the whole chip just melts through the board? XD
mercano82: Unless it also cloaks when it phases, like Geordi, Ro Laren, or the Pegasus.
TehAmelie: hi Cori's voice
JonnyGlitch: justifiable business expense
Anexmedia: FLIR cameras are so crazy to get right now
Mikiao: Take some money out of the tarp budget
NotCainNorAbel: I would love to have an IR camera
RandomTrivia: Cori asking the real questions
DrakoniteStreams: you would not be the first
JonnyGlitch: don't point that camera at me!
Tochisan7: the power, it's unimaginable
Mysticman89: buy a massive cheese wheel
JonnyGlitch: I am a fart factory
Electrodyne: That chip is only $3.15 at Digi-Key
xantos69: cheer300 Bits for FART CAM (TM)
veelofar: I just arrived and... ah, I see that Face is still in the background of shot. Good, good.
Arclight_Dynamo: High speed IR fart video.
DrakoniteStreams: Ian, what temp did you go with?
JonnyGlitch: are we there yet?
trilemma85: We can finally answer the age-old question of "what colour is a fart in infra-red"?
Molladia: You could One-Up Paul with "we have X Golden Play Buttons"
DrakoniteStreams: you shouldn't be heating this long if you're hot enough to melt the solder
RandomTrivia: I think he went with 220 C
Arclight_Dynamo: Google wants 220 C.
DrakoniteStreams: for lead free solder, you need to be more like 260C
Crock272: Hot chip
Simonark: Wait, would you also need a lot of ultraviolet makeup, just to Gift of the Magi the infrared camera?
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GreayStone: Carful what you wish for... size isn't everything.
Arclight_Dynamo: Hmmm... how hot does this gun go?
TehAmelie: 225°C is the hotter end of a household oven's "everyday use", for reference
mercano82: @simonark Just do all your lighting with black lights
daneislazy: could poke the big cap (black one with line) to see in solder is melted
Driosenth: This was my latest pcb and solder job, a breakout board for a high accuracy pressure sensor.
TehAmelie: would you rather be able to see infrared or polarized light? or one in each eye?
RandomTrivia: Is that going to leave some solder residue on the board?
daneislazy: @Driosenth nice! looks good
JonnyGlitch: "mmm, smells live vaporised lead"
Simonark: Old hats? We'll be.. bored?
Arclight_Dynamo: "I am inhaling toxic volatiles, chat! We got there!"
Manae: Oh god we tried to use a pressure transducer like that. Nipples kept breaking off the chips--they are not meant to be disassembled
DrakoniteStreams: @TehAmelie infrared would be so useful, but overwhelmingly different
RandomTrivia: @Simonark benginFingers
NotCainNorAbel: @TehAmelie As long as I could see normal as well I would add IR
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TehAmelie: a tinkerer may have a little lead, as a treat
Manae: A solder wick seems like it'd be a real good thing for this
Arclight_Dynamo: Crank 'er to five hundo. Kappa
JonnyGlitch: I mean if you're trashing the chip anyways....
Greggleswong: I always cheat and use Pb lol
RandomTrivia: No kill like overkill, after all
TehAmelie: 500°C is like steel forging temps. but i mean, why not
Orlantia: Ian you need to be up over 320c to get the solder to melt
JonnyGlitch: Overkill: If it's working, you're not using enough
veelofar: I feel that this could be much more quickly done with a blowtorch.
UWDJohn: In my experience, hotter air and shorter is better to not heat the surrounding parts.
Electrodyne: Or a desoldering iron
DrakoniteStreams: the age of the tv is definitely leadfree solder
Orlantia: was it listed as ROHAS compliant?
Crock272: Depending on the class of the manufacturing, it will probably be lead free to comply with IPC standards
Arclight_Dynamo: Cold chisel and a 4-lb sledge. Kappa
Electrodyne: ahhh I get ya
Orlantia: Then that's lead free
7gorobei: might need to take it up to 260
UWDJohn: ROHS, Restriction of Hazardous Substances
Greggleswong: 260 C
Electrodyne: Lotta silver in that solder
RandomTrivia: @Arclight_Dynamo Might have a little too much AoE with that plan :D
Mikiao: @Arclight_Dynamo it works every time
DrakoniteStreams: 260-300C
TehAmelie: i mean we have now political activists trying to tell us asbestos free baby strollers is for hipsters. health and safety is apparently cyclical
Anexmedia: That smelly smell
Orlantia: I would just go to 320, and watch the melt
CaptainSpam: "Ooo, that is a different smell" is not something you typically want to hear with electronics.
xantos69: What an incredible new smell you have discovered.
etaluia: describe the nose feel
Lord_Hosk: Maybe that was the fart you were talking about capturing on film
Arcodus: cheerwhal287
Orlantia: the iron should be up over 380
FaithlessLooting: acrid usually LUL
daneislazy: smell might be the flux on the board, all the brown spots around the solder
Veshnikard: Did we use any flux?
TehAmelie: the 2020s will bring back baby drops, i predict
RandomTrivia: Optimism!
Orlantia: @veshnikard this is removal
Mikiao: The painting is slowly opening an infernal portal below Ian
Arclight_Dynamo: @Veshnikard This is removal.
DrakoniteStreams: @TehAmelie RoHS was never about safety. it is about reducing lead in landfills. The chemicals needed for leadfree solder are worse for humans to work with than the leaded solder is, which is why RoHS is getting more and more flak
Greggleswong: Flux paste helps for remvoal
RassilonDND: jeez that photo behind ian is going to give me nightmares
Arclight_Dynamo: Huh. You *could* do tiny BBQ with this gun.
DeM0nFiRe: So this is the Fry part of Tinker, Tailor, Solder, Fry right? Specifically air frying?
Arclight_Dynamo: Sign your steaks.
veelofar: "We are getting very close" -Ian, before spending an additional hour on the task.
daneislazy: flux can help with larger multipin stuff, but won't help with the heat sink here
Juliamon: RassilonDND "Photo"
trilemma85: @RassilonDND That picture is actually a future print of what Ian will look like when he points the heat-gun at his own face.
TheBehemothBarn: How's it going?
RandomTrivia: Would it be quicker to heat it from underneath?
Greggleswong: So is the heat sink soldered on the underside of this 8 pin IC?
TehAmelie: the second time i have ever heard the word flux used in conversation
Butternades: Was the first about quantum flux?
Lord_Hosk: The board seems to be discoloring
jellybean57: im getting flashbacks to my circuits lab course in college right now. I can almost smell the scorched board
JonnyGlitch: or a Flux Capacitor?
daneislazy: Greggleswong yep, whole bottom of chip
DrakoniteStreams: flux is the god mod cheat for soldering
Arclight_Dynamo: @Greggleswong There is a pad on the bottom of the IC that is attached, yes.
Orlantia: is the chip bad?
TheMerricat: @TehAmelie Are you Marty McFly? You have to tell us if you are Marty McFly, or Calvin Klein.....
TehAmelie: neutron flux
Lord_Hosk: That might be just reflected light
Electrodyne: I don't give a flux
Greggleswong: Ah. I would have whipped out the board heater for this situtation then
Arclight_Dynamo: @Orlantia A cap is bad, and the chip is associated with the cap.
RandomTrivia: Actually, why aren't we heating the underside?
daneislazy: if the board starts cooking, you'll know
Orlantia: @randomtrivia it's surface mounted
JonnyGlitch: heat sink
TehAmelie: i have not watched Back to the Future but i have watched the show Chernobyl. maybe i date myself
RandomTrivia: Oh there's another component. Gotcha
JonnyGlitch: @TehAmelie I'd date myself
Manae: Not many circuit boards are through hole anymore
Arclight_Dynamo: I am concerned that when we put the new chip on, we won't know when we've melted the pad. Might get a bad heatsink connection.
DrakoniteStreams: if there was no component in the way, you'd want to at least preheat from the underside
daneislazy: and a bit of burnt board doesn't mean it's ruined either, so not a bit deal if it discolours a bit
Lord_Hosk: I wouldnt date myself, I don't know why LadyHosk dated me... it was a mistake
hmwd138: What are we doing right now?
daneislazy: big* deal
Earthenone: ahh, thats why its called a heat sink!
Agu_Sakku: I should just give you my OLD PS3 FAT. First Gen, so hardware backwards compatibility. Got it fixed once. But it shortly broke again. Possible warped board, broken solder... I dont want to sink anymore money into it.
Arclight_Dynamo: Ah, here's hoping. Worst case, the chip heats up enough to solder itself. :D
Orlantia: if there is a heat sink, you need more heat. crank it to 340
Gen2Gengar: Hello Ian, hello chat
FaithlessLooting: @hmwd138 heating a chip to loosen it from the board
frankscx: I probably should have asked this before we opened up the TV, but is there a setting buried somewhere in the menus 'screaming mode on/off'
RandomTrivia: @hmwd138 Trying to melt the heatsink pad under the chip, so we can remove t
LurkerSpine: moar heat?
7gorobei: 320?
Electrodyne: Hey chat, what model was the tv?
Lord_Hosk: Welcome Gen2Gengar Ian is cooking himself a tiny tiny chip dinner
RandomTrivia: Maybe it's a typo? Are you sure it's not a Plasma Scream TV after all? lrrBEEJ
Greggleswong: may need a puddle of lead to retain heat
Tantaburs: have you tried screaming back to assert domiance?
Mysticman89: but did you try for a priest
NotCainNorAbel: PN50A550 @Electrodyne
ritchards: have you tried an old priest and a young priest?
Electrodyne: @notcainnorabel ♥️♥️
CaptainSpam: "Version Notes: * Added option to control screaming."
Orlantia: soldering iron is about 390 for lead free, you should be up at 340 at minimum
Arclight_Dynamo: That's like how the speedometer on my Hyundai Elantra says it'll do 240 KPH, right? Kappa
veelofar: Did you attempt to boot it while upside down? lrrBEEJ
TehAmelie: clearly the failure was the manufacturer not giving the TV a snout you could punch to establish dominance
Juliamon: !addquote (Ian) [now] Again, different smells are occurring.
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daneislazy: might need to switch to a larger nozzle
SnackPak_: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN
Lord_Hosk: ITS FREE!
TehAmelie: good one Julia
Juliamon: lrrHORN
daneislazy: ! or not!
RandomTrivia: lrrHORN Success! lrrHORN
Orlantia: make sure the pads are still intact
Mikiao: did you note the orientation?
NotCainNorAbel: bake your TV for 20 minutes
RandomTrivia: Juliamon lrrHEART
Greggleswong: Well done chat
TheWriterAleph: woooo 2020Celebrate
veelofar: That jubilation startled me.
Greggleswong: what's the part number?
Spacepup: I don't often stop in for TTSF... can someone tell me what is watching over Ian's shoulder?
Juliamon: Spacepup Art.
Spacepup: I see that.
Arclight_Dynamo: @Spacepup Art by Abbey Howard.
veelofar: That would be a "Clown"
Arclight_Dynamo: Where's that HotBlow pointed?
Molladia: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 1:02:40.
RandomTrivia: Perfect timing for a break!
Arclight_Dynamo: Please to not start a fire.
JonnyGlitch: did I miss it?
TehAmelie: heatsinks can be overloaded given enough time or enough temperature, i'm guessing with only enough physics knowledge to realize that what feels correct usually isn't
TheMerricat: Awesome hustle Ian, I would not have been that patient and would have ruined something.
Serpens77: Oooo suspence
Electrodyne: And we're on the power board, right?
Electrodyne: BN-44-0222a
Electrodyne: 00222a
Serpens77: Tinker Tailor Solder: 1; Fry: 0
Greggleswong: Sorry if anyone replied to me. My iPad bettery died.
Gen2Gengar: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 1:05:15.
LordZarano: SpaceX Turksat-5A launch T-2 mins
TehAmelie: ooh, the TV without the casing looks like such a vast array of electronics
RandomTrivia: Am Ian ok?
veelofar: We fixin a picture box.
Greggleswong: Not Samsung?
Boon_33: !tv
UWDJohn: Careful, some of those edges are sharp@
Greggleswong: OK gotcha
TehAmelie: precision engineering is their entire business i guess
DrakoniteStreams: nooo, clean it off and add fresh solder. leaded solder
7gorobei: might want to reflux it a little
DrakoniteStreams: and some extra flux if you have it
Arclight_Dynamo: "...I think I may have inhaled the chip."
DrakoniteStreams: if you don't have flux to add, do not try to reuse the solder as-is
leebenningfield: I do not like Samsung's "ecosystem" but their hardware is usually good quality
TehAmelie: i'm watching this thing on a Samsung LED screen
veelofar: Time to capacitor that flux.
Arclight_Dynamo: What *is* flux? Just, like, rosin dissolved in something?
TehAmelie: seems kind of Andy Kaufmann, but only a tiny bit
DrakoniteStreams: Arclight_Dynamo it depends. there are rosin based fluxes, but they have other chemicals added to. flux meant for leadfree solder has some pretty nasty stuff in it
Spacepup: Focus a little out on board cam
Arclight_Dynamo: Oof. Yuck.
DrakoniteStreams: electronics flux doesn't have the heavy acids of plumbing flux
Spacepup: There we go
veelofar: Chip Walk is the name of my chip tune/easy listening band
TheMerricat: Flux is a two part deal, it's meant to eat away any oxidation and 'cover' the joint till the solder hardens so gases can't get into the joint and weaken it by oxidizing again.
DrakoniteStreams: some has at least some. there are a TON of different fluxes though
frankscx: I hear the most dangerous kind of flux is Aeon Flux
TheMerricat: Only if you watch the live action version @frankscx
Electrodyne: popularized by the new wave band, Flux of Seagulls
Greggleswong: Oh interesting, that's a DC-DC converter
Arclight_Dynamo: Is this the least oopsie project TTSF has ever seen? It's going remarkably smoothly.
DrakoniteStreams: @Arclight_Dynamo cooking projects tend to go quite well
Arclight_Dynamo: Ah, right, cooking.
Mikiao: and they are called chips
SnowBuddy18: we are adding heat over time, it's TV cooking
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Electrodyne: best of moment?
Arclight_Dynamo: Acid. Heat. Chips. Yeah, you know what? This is cooking.
veelofar: What you need are a set of those tiny little hands that go on the tips of your fingers.
Gen2Gengar: I always have vinegar with my chips
DrakoniteStreams: flux is some seriously magic stuff. it does a dozen different things. everything from cleaning oxidation and protecting joint to improving surface tension and reducing bridging
Arclight_Dynamo: Easy, Tweezy, Beautiful: Solder Girl.
Driosenth: do you have a tweezers?
frankscx: @Arclight_Dynamo well played sir
Mikiao: fire the capacitor halfway across the room?
veelofar: It's a Yellow one
Driosenth: Ian, how many spare caps did you buy in the event you fling the cap across the room?
Gen2Gengar: So you'd call this a flux(ed) capacitor?
Arclight_Dynamo: IIRC, Ian *has* fired a cap across the room. From a mobo.
Mikiao: I'd say half my time in my circuits lab was spent looking under the table for stuff we dropped
rshah2067: cool what are you working on
rshah2067: never seen one of theese before
Gen2Gengar: It's a tv
Greggleswong: Weeeee!
rshah2067: nice
frankscx: @rshah2067 repairing Beej-Bot
control_rig: A plasma tv
TheMerricat: later on TTSF, ian UNSODERS his tweezers from the board. :P
DrakoniteStreams: would recommend using your iron for the cap
veelofar: Just watching this delicate work makes my hands start to shake.
UWDJohn: For what it's worth. The type of capacitor you're working is a tantalum capacittor, where the materials used are considered 'conflict materials' (like blood diamond) if mined in certain areas in the world.
TheMerricat: And this is why people hate doing SMT sodering by hand.
Orlantia: so why are you using the heat gun instead of the iron?
rshah2067: lol i loathe even crimping connectors
Driosenth: that cap looks like a regular iron would be better than the rework
Orlantia: @themerricat I don't know, I find it fun
Greggleswong: might have to decrease flow
7gorobei: this is reflow Ian, let the surface tension do the work
Electrodyne: CA glue it :)
TheMerricat: See, chat, this is where I'd spend a year building a pick and place and solder machine just to do this one bit for me.... and in a decade I'd have it done and hav e lost the replacement parts for the tv.
Crock272: test it with a multimeter
veelofar: I feel that, Merricat
Greggleswong: Nice!
エクセル: Board's looking a little, uh, toasty feenS
Driosenth: that looked loose
TheMerricat: Not much more than it did at the start.
Electrodyne: It's just changing colors because of autumn
Orlantia: agreed @driosenth
Crock272: @TheMerricat only for it to jam because it wanted a very specific type of component reel
Crock272: and digikey sends the wrong one
TheMerricat: hehe yes @Crock272
rshah2067: louis rossman has entered the chat
Crock272: Without certs
SirBiffaloEsq: I would be very concerned if the board was not toasty, given the liberal heat gun treatment it just got
エクセル: Camera focus feenR
Driosenth: @Crock272 speak from experience?
DrakoniteStreams: always clean flux before wrapping up. "no-clean flux" just means it won't destroy the board
Greggleswong: Is isopropyl still in short supply?
Crock272: @Driosenth yes, unfortunately
TheMerricat: The Autofocus is just getting it's reps in chat. You gotta make sure you get your exercise in during these dark days.
Mikiao: can you hit another chip to see if that reads?
fubargames: So I missed the start of the stream, did he start by pouring the plasma out into a bucket?
Greggleswong: C102 + should be pin 2 of IC101
TheMerricat: Two buckets @fubargames and we spilt some on the rug, Cori was pissed.
fubargames: Ow
Arclight_Dynamo: Isopropyl is great because is dissolves a lot of stuff without also dissolving your skin.
Electrodyne: better than etching solution
LordZarano: does your meter have a capacitance measurement option?
Greggleswong: Good wuestion lol
DrakoniteStreams: pin 1 starts in lower left (by the dot), and counts up counter-clockwise
Electrodyne: no
DrakoniteStreams: no, COUNTER-clockwise
Arclight_Dynamo: Ian.
LordZarano: Widdershins!
Greggleswong: C102 positive also connects to TP107
TheMerricat: Isn't C102 the cap?
Electrodyne: yes
Electrodyne: nice
DrakoniteStreams: I needed to buy some isopropyl back in march. I only found some because I knew where the store normally stocked it, and found a bottle shoved to the back behind other stuff
エクセル: I wiped my bread bag with isopropyl and all of the ink came off feenWut
GreayStone: that's why it's called let's try.
NotCainNorAbel: I think you should re-use the screws, I would avoid buttons when securing the back.
Arclight_Dynamo: It's just one tiny chip out of hundreds! How ruined could this TV get? Kappa
UWDJohn: Can you test without putting it all together? Just cable it up?
TheWriterAleph: and get all the makeup out of it first
DrakoniteStreams: it was hard to find here for a while, but apparently walgreens kept it in stock the whole time somehow
Mikiao: I really need a 50in plasma TV, but it HAS to have a banshee scream
Juliamon: I felt mercifully blessed that I'd purchased some fresh isopropyl in late 2019 for some medical supply cleaning, so I didn't need to find any all of 2020.
エクセル: How did we identify the capacitor if we don't have a way to test the cap. Was it 'sploded?
Electrodyne: worst case, tvpartsguy dot com has BN41-01608A on sale for $24.99
veelofar: Hey, I'm actually watching this on a big screen TV, so this IS seen on TV!
Greggleswong: I'm shocked at how cheap 4k TVs are
DrakoniteStreams: @エクセル common fault
frankscx: how much to lease the guest room with the TV in it
Arclight_Dynamo: Man, way back in March, I remember going out to get Lysol wipes, and working my way down the list of alternatives as I found they were all snapped up. Lysol wipes, Lysol liquid, rubbing alcohol, isopropyl... I settled on a jug of bleach.
Electrodyne: No wait, inputs are slightly different
DrakoniteStreams: I still can't find bleach
MaladyDark: I have a $500 65" 4k from Aldi it has 0 smart features, which is a plus in my book.
RandomTrivia: Extra W I D E booth
Driosenth: I love using a LG CX48 as a main monitor
TheMerricat: @エクセル Essentially Ian went online and researched the issue for a good while and the common answer was that those specific components were known to cause the banshee scream he was getting, so it's a guess but an informed guess.
SirBiffaloEsq: So something's going to happen
SnackPak_: no smoke is good
Mikiao: buzzing? It's full of bees!
Arclight_Dynamo: Will it make noise, tho?
Greggleswong: Oh yes, the plasma buzz
DrakoniteStreams: woo
RandomTrivia: lrrHORN Fantastic success! lrrHORN
TheMerricat: And just a reminder chat if you haven't dealt with plasma tvs before they ALWAYS whine/buzz a little bit due to the tech behind them being zapping the little glass tubes full of gas with capacitors to get a picture.
Greggleswong: Test the tv by streaming LoadingReadyRun Kappa
Electrodyne: vga
エクセル: It's smart enough to connect to a PC feenGasp
GreayStone: so can't connect a pc to it
TheMerricat: I have to say when I heard Ian as going to be repairing a plasma TV I was expecting a far far more messy project.
Lord_Hosk: I wish they still made dumb TV's
Nicarrow: ooooo fun fixing TV
MaladyDark: I ahve a new TV that's not smart. a 5m HDMI is enough for me.
SquareDotCube: Well, you can via the VGA port
DeM0nFiRe: M E T A
エクセル: I'll show them... I'll show them all feenMoney
RandomTrivia: Reciprocal monitoring? Careful with that Ian
RandomTrivia: Don't accidentally implode spacetime
veelofar: I do so love recursive viewing.
TheMerricat: Ian's going to show us the tv on the tv, and then we'll see the tv!
RandomTrivia: Recursive, not reciprocal... Words are hard
Electrodyne: Ian knocked enough dust out that it no longer fruits properly
Electrodyne: fits
Lord_Hosk: so many smart TV's are full of out of date software that is firmware coded and cant be removed and was a poor version of what my X-box or DVD player does anyways. I just want a TV that Turns on and displays the picture again.
RandomTrivia: lrrFINE
DrakoniteStreams: @Lord_Hosk lots of security issues with them too :-/
エクセル: @Lord_Hosk my TV literally has a loading indicator just to switch inputs feenCry
TheMerricat: @Lord_Hosk you could always just buy a huge LCD panel raw, and drive it using a pi or something.... ;)
veelofar: Just weld it closed. It'll be fine.
SajuukSjet: lord_hosk: that's called a monitor these days Kappa
Greggleswong: Are there still any modern TVs sold without "SmartTV?"
MaladyDark: I have concerns given all the smart TV manufatcurers are pantenting fun new ad delivery mechanisms. So gimme dumb Giant panels any day
RandomTrivia: And large hi-fidelity monitors these days come with the baggage of "gaming" which makes them expensive
Bobtheninjagoldfish: wait I had to step away did I miss the fix?
Molladia: My new TV runs a version of android and I've gotten an update tri-monthly for the 15months I've owned it
DrakoniteStreams: best part of smart tvs is I can go to any friend/family's home and hit a button on my phone that takes over the tv to show whatever I want to watch :D
Bobtheninjagoldfish: guess I'll have to catch it on the VoD.
TheMerricat: @Bobtheninjagoldfish the resodering actually went 50x's faster than removing the first component.
Bobtheninjagoldfish: @TheMerricat makes sense.
LordZarano: @molladia what brand?
MaladyDark: So I have been beyond pleased with my Aldi 4k. it has 4 HDMI ports. it has digital Audio out, which is nice becuase my amp is too old for HMDI. all the other ports have been ignored
Electrodyne: Step 1: end the stream. Step 2: watch the VoD to see where the missing screw went. Step 3: start new stream for finding the screws
Greggleswong: Not the supermarket?
Greggleswong: @maladydark
hmwd138: Do the LRR people ever watch any of their VODs?
Electrodyne: I still need to watch last night. I arrived just in time to see Secret Paul Message
LordZarano: They watch clips
MaladyDark: @Greggleswong yes. the supermarket. they have rotating deals of electronics and flat pack furniture, seasonal goods. here
DrakoniteStreams: I like S/PDIF optical
DeM0nFiRe: Technology Connections is such a good youtube channel
7gorobei: spdif is horribly out of date spec wise though
GreayStone: loaters by Jimmy Fontanez
Molladia: @LordZarano its the Sony 75X8000g
TheMerricat: I still can't believe that he cut a window into a perfectly good dishwasher just to tell us that e shouldn't use dishwasher tabs :D
Arclight_Dynamo: Did Cori fuck with your screws during the break just to mess with you? Kappa
Crock272: they reproduced
Mikiao: are one of those screws blue?
TheMerricat: We went from missing a screw to growing two new?
Crock272: spontaneous screws!
DrakoniteStreams: the base/stand ?
spo8n: those are snacks!
couldntpickausername: they screwed
DeM0nFiRe: Went from missing a screw to having too many screws real quick LUL
Lord_Hosk: how did this happen?
TomeTwister: At least it's not less
orellien2773: Nothing more terrifying than reassembling something and having some bits left over...
Spacepup: Ian has just a couple screws loose now.
StreetRach: Are the screws from the base?
UnnnaturalD20: more screws is less of a problem than not enough
TheMerricat: @LoadingReadyRun weren't there a few screws that you had to do last minute to get the top off, did you replace them?
orellien2773: Oh yeah, the base!
Arclight_Dynamo: "I'll just... start putting them into random holes until they fit."
Electrodyne: So one time I was helping a coworker with some Monster Cable, specially polished optical SPDIF. I explained that since it's a digital signal is made of 1s and 0s, and the high polish allowed the 1s to pass through a bend more easily, where the 0s just roll on by because they're round.
SSnakeAce: Yeah, for the base
RandomTrivia: @UnnnaturalD20 If anything it's more of a problem. It means that something, somewhere isn't as secure as it is supposed to be
Arclight_Dynamo: Ian, for real. The base.
Lord_Hosk: "We dont have enough screws" "Wait now we have too many screws"
NotCainNorAbel: did the screws mate during the break?
SajuukSjet: all the VESA mount holes filled?
Greggleswong: But is it a load-bearing screw?
StreetRach: Are they for the base, Ian?
UnnnaturalD20: @RandomTrivia yes but you know that there aren't screws where there really shouldn't be
orellien2773: No, those wouldn’t be for the base.
TheMerricat: @LoadingReadyRun I'm with the others thinking it's to the base...
orellien2773: For a TV of that size? The bolts/screws you’d use would be a lot thicker, wouldn’t it?
Greggleswong: what holds the PCB to the frame?
62MGcobra: When has had left over screws ever stopped something from not working right?
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Greggleswong: Ah ok
bubbles_the_unicorn: Is he putting it back together now?
SSnakeAce: Are they any screws on the bottom side of the TV, Ian? Perhaps near the power cable port?
UnnnaturalD20: it really depends. is something not secured right? could fall and damage. screw in the wrong place well that just causes f.o.d
TheMerricat: @bubbles_the_unicorn we were till we ran into a screw count failure
frankscx: at a certain point you have to just say 'screw it' and move on
Greggleswong: Nice @lordzarano
7gorobei: to the VOD
TheMerricat: @LoadingReadyRun you mght want to review the doc @LordZarano posted it's got a screw count for everyhing
LordZarano: I think so
MaladyDark: standing something up, and then giving it a wiggle/shake is a good way to find loos screws
Electrodyne: @lordzarano The hero we deserve
RandomTrivia: Oh no
Juliamon: Time for a break.
Juliamon: Take care of the sliver.
Arclight_Dynamo: ^
7gorobei: is it a aluminum or steel sliver?
Bobtheninjagoldfish: time for a break, and sliver care, Ian.
Greggleswong: Ad break?
LordZarano: Unless there was more than 1 service manual published for this TV
Electrodyne: Everyone stop watching so Ian is forced to take a break
LordZarano: Which seems unlikely
Electrodyne: Nice work team
bubbles_the_unicorn: Wait I missed the last five seconds what just happened
frankscx: @bubbles_the_unicorn a monster ate Ian
Juliamon: It's time for an ad break, that's all
Juliamon: !break
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greenday61892: Holy shit ROCKSMITH?
Juliamon: Yeah, Ian did it last week too.
Juliamon: Don't hold your breath for VODs.
DrakoniteStreams: @bubbles_the_unicorn Ian was mortally wounded... or it was a minor sliver.
greenday61892: Of course
bubbles_the_unicorn: Oh ok
DrakoniteStreams: metal slivers are best to remove ASAP
ghyllnox: I still have a dark spot on my hand from a metal sliver I got on the playground as a child
ghyllnox: Biology teacher in hs said it's not possible, but it looks like it's still there
Electrodyne: Maybe it's an alien tracking device
frankscx: I would feel bad using removal on a Metallic Sliver given it's only a 1/1
TheMerricat: I've got one of those dark spots @ghyllnox from slamming down hard on the playground asphalt as in third grade. Still have it three plus decades later
bubbles_the_unicorn: I had a metal sliver in my foot I luckily got it out
Arclight_Dynamo: Now I bet Cori stole four screws during THIS break. Kappa
Greggleswong: Nice!
GreayStone: self care is good
Electrodyne: Safety fird
Bobtheninjagoldfish: Metal sliver. Almost as bad as hovermyr.
7gorobei: metal slivers, one of the rejected Lucky Charms marshmellows
bubbles_the_unicorn: Haha
JonnyGlitch: you always end up with a few extra screws
JonnyGlitch: they multiply while in the container
Greggleswong: How many of us have all the screws they need really
JonnyGlitch: screws are overrated
Electrodyne: just copper rivet everything
Bobtheninjagoldfish: until you get to the base. those screws matter right
Lord_Hosk: This show is load bearing... Load INGReadyRun Bearing HAHAHAHA
JonnyGlitch: hammer and nails, all you need
Greggleswong: Got wm!
DrakoniteStreams: oh no, not the screw vs bolt holy war
Greggleswong: *em
SerGarretCameron: personally I prefer a good integral latching mechanism.
62MGcobra: I feel I am missing some screws, so when I find some left over after a project I know I can use them
ghyllnox: Just lots and lots of tape
Electrodyne: fighting over screws vs. bolts? That's nuts :D
GreayStone: pysano
TomeTwister: Nails. Because hammer.
Bobtheninjagoldfish: velcro everything
Greggleswong: Play LoZ discovery sound
LordZarano: Oh yes, the M8,L16,ZPC(BLK),SWRCH18A,WP are clearly the most important screws
JonnyGlitch: screwing something it admitting you might have to open it up again, which is an admission of failure. Superglue everything!
ghyllnox: Dovetail TVs
DrakoniteStreams: no fastners == no repairing it
NotCainNorAbel: it then falls apart when it gets too warm
Nicarrow: wow my head hurts thinking about how that would work
LadyDKat: Don't need to repair something if it never breaks
jessieimproved: Since it's all made of wood and Japan is SO humid, nothing moves
62MGcobra: @DrakoniteStreams settle down apple
veelofar: Make it out of one solid piece of plastic. Molded around the mechanical parts
Electrodyne: good thinking, box join everything
Arclight_Dynamo: Just engineer things to the Voyager space probe standard. Kappa
RandomTrivia: If you get to ask that question, you're doing it right
JonnyGlitch: that's a 2 person lift
JonnyGlitch: OSHA!
DrakoniteStreams: japan earned it's reputation for making well engineered products, and fastener design was a big part of that
jessieimproved: we didn't let our plasma go until about a year ago, that was a workhorse
rrtycoon2: next TTSF, self hernia repair.
SerGarretCameron: because we all need a sentient space probe returning to earth in 300 years, that sounds great Arclight.
Greggleswong: Pray for Ian's back
TStodden: What's the screen size?
Nicarrow: so i just learned that Japan has 50hz and 60hz .... i would brake my stuff so often if i had to be in both regions
JonnyGlitch: your remote sounds like a beer opening
Greggleswong: Roughly 50"
Arclight_Dynamo: Google tells me that this TV weights 91.3 lbs.
Arclight_Dynamo: *weights
Easilycrazyhat: Twitch does *not* like that snow
TStodden: Size is nothing... bulk is another story...
SajuukSjet: The Bees!
JonnyGlitch: wow it's making the whole stream atrifact
JonnyGlitch: SMOSH
Gen2Gengar: Wait, that's like 45 kg
Electrodyne: you wanna take that again @arclight_dynamo ?
Arclight_Dynamo: @Electrodyne If I don't, I can't embarrass myself again.
LordZarano: 41.4kg to be precice
SajuukSjet: gotta love how The Bees defeat the video encoders :P
Electrodyne: :D
GreayStone: probably not much
LurkerSpine: might need a paper clip
Bobtheninjagoldfish: So Ian I've been rewatching Bylaw and Order. Was Enor's voice just pistachico's or am I imaginigng it?
DrakoniteStreams: it's scanning the no-longer used analog space
7gorobei: you need an antennae dont you?
JonnyGlitch: stick your finger in the aerial port
Boon_33: Canada still has analog air channels?
Greggleswong: can you actually pickup anything without an antenna?
JonnyGlitch: that tv won't have dtv I think
Arclight_Dynamo: @Boon_33 This is a very old TV.
RandomTrivia: It's scanning optimistically
ShaneLeeAtk: Stick a paperclip in the antenna hole
7gorobei: ^
JonnyGlitch: wow that's real early
frankscx: what would be more interesting is if it found a 'channel' and started playing the Ring video
JonnyGlitch: everybody smosh!
Boon_33: @Arclight_Dynamo I know, but broadcasts are no longer alalog in the USA
SajuukSjet: the digital change over was a pretty well defined program around the world
veelofar: @frankscx Interesting is... a word for that, yes
DrakoniteStreams: my tv can (well, could) snag analog broadcast without adding an antenna. it's not DVB ready though
TomeTwister: the static is eating the resolution
Greggleswong: Oh wait what abour copyright
Arclight_Dynamo: @Boon_33 Yes, I'm saying Canada went to analog-over-the-air years ago. Before the US, even, IIRC. But this TV is old enough to look for analog.
Easilycrazyhat: Watching the compression try to deal with that static in real time is funny
Electrodyne: F connectors
leebenningfield: utter shit of a connector
Bobtheninjagoldfish: So Ian I've been rewatching Bylaw and Order. Was Enor's voice just pistachico's or am I imaginigng it?
DrakoniteStreams: the best part of F connectors is there are multiple incompatible conductor sizes
Arclight_Dynamo: @Boon_33 Went to DIGITAL over-the-air, rather. Ugh. It late.
JonnyGlitch: the TV itself will block signal from that direction I think, at least my Plasma does
Electrodyne: Could be worse? Could be TNC
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Easilycrazyhat: Progress!
MrUglama: I gotta say, TTSF Ian fixes stuff on his house is my favorite season so far
LadyDKat: Oh yeah, do we need to be careful what might be shown because copyright?
niccus: he might lean more 24
Athelgar: using rabbit ears to get signal on a Plasma TV is probably the most Ian thing ive seen
Boon_33: @Arclight_Dynamo ah, didn't know Canada made the switch first, it wasn't a popular move in the US when they did that.
JonnyGlitch: @LadyAiluros educational purposes!
Greggleswong: I bet it's CBC
DrakoniteStreams: the ones that were supposed to make F connector rf "more user friendly" ? hate those
TStodden: I have a 2-amplified antenna array for the TV's in my house...
Arclight_Dynamo: What the heck channel is this?
Arclight_Dynamo: Ah.
JonnyGlitch: God is everywhere
RandomTrivia: Welp
TheWriterAleph: praise jesus
Athelgar: thats what happens when telecoms buy all the overair signals for cell bandwidth (at least to my understanding)(
Easilycrazyhat: God uh...finds a way
StreetRach: God is love.
Greggleswong: Lmao
couldntpickausername: for me over in ontario there was this french channel that always came in perfectly no matter what. #44
leebenningfield: they make sure you can always get the christian station
novrdd: LUL
jessieimproved: do you live in a place there is only one such station???
Arclight_Dynamo: Yay!
62MGcobra: BELOPA!!!!!!
aerobeing: As a hole.
ShaneLeeAtk: Well done!
Easilycrazyhat: That guy needs a better fitting suit
Arclight_Dynamo: There's a lot of audio lag on talky man.
JonnyGlitch: What is his porpoise?
TStodden: This only because satan has exclusive rights over the WeeFees...
JonnyGlitch: whoohoo!
DrakoniteStreams: lrrAWESOME
LadyDKat: Yay!
TheWriterAleph: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN
mercano82: Praise Belopa!
TheMerricat: lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN lrrHORN
Electrodyne: Heck yeah
Greggleswong: Congrats!
GreayStone: at lest it wasnt disney
TomeTwister: Yeah!
frankscx: ask this guy if Jesus knows about the screws
Electrodyne: and no screaming noise
StreetRach: *slaps TV which then falls over and breaks*
Despoiler98: Im sorry a what?
JonnyGlitch: Thanks for the stream Ian!
Juliamon: Oh good, table talk
ghyllnox: Air hockey?
NotCainNorAbel: Yeah, a what?
JonnyGlitch: I can see your fridge in the reflection!
DrakoniteStreams: human scale, as opposed to hamster scale
ghyllnox: Ohhh okay
TheMerricat: Ian's really geeking out on the Office Furniture :D
LadyDKat: This was the first TTSF stream I caught where Ian wasn't cooking.
Electrodyne: MODELS START AT $1749
NotCainNorAbel: I cannot wait to see Ian in high heals working at the desk
Gen2Gengar: Really waird for the christian chnnel to be quoting Dostoievski
JonnyGlitch: lol my bounce light is a study lamp pointed at the wall
DeM0nFiRe: o/ lrrHEART
Greggleswong: Gulab jamin ❤️
frankscx: i have recently spent more time 'in' Ian's house than those of many of my IRL friends
62MGcobra: *slap table
Arclight_Dynamo: Yay-kuza!
GreayStone: kanmrucho
r2gamer2: Am I late?
RandomTrivia: Hmm, I think Ian needs a restart :D
Greggleswong: Yakuza 7 is so good
Electrodyne: Now the big question: will there be a Secret Message at the end of tonight's show?
Juliamon: !uptime
LRRbot: The stream has been live for 2:14:49.
Juliamon: Electrodyne That's mostly Paul's thing
Juliamon: No need to get greedy and take his bit too
Electrodyne: Yeah I've heard one Heather Secret Message
62MGcobra: Caillou always learning
RandomTrivia: Ian already stole Adam's bit :D
DrakoniteStreams: Apparently I'm subscribed? I don't actually know when/how that happened. lrrAWESOME
Electrodyne: oh good point
LordZarano: jlrrNo jlrrCai jlrrLlou jlrrNo
aerobeing: Maybe still don't.
RandomTrivia: @DrakoniteStreams If you go to the "my subscriptions" page from the top right menu you can see who gifted it
TheMerricat: I literally jumped out of my seat in horror when you did that Ian....
veelofar: I bet if you stabbed it with a screwdriver it would crack.
aerobeing: Tesla might want to try those for their truck windows.
DrakoniteStreams: oooh, apparently it was Molladia during an Ian and Cam xmas. Thanks Molladia
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
RandomTrivia: Thanks Ian! lrrHEART
DrakoniteStreams: have a night o/
DeM0nFiRe: o/ lrrHEART
NotCainNorAbel: Thanks for the stream
LadyDKat: Thank you for the stream Ian!
Electrodyne: Thanks for streaming Ian.
TheMerricat: Thanks for the stream Ian!
Electrodyne: good night internet friends
TomeTwister: Great stream!
TheMerricat: And chat, you all are awesome people. Be safe, be well, and be happy!
ghyllnox: lrrHEART o/
GreayStone: night Ian & Cori