sacrenos: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ (Paul, Beej and Heather chat about Video Games and Video Game related news :D) at Fri 02:00 PM PST (9m from now).
PharaohBender27: Ahoy-hoy! PrideWave
GapFiller: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ (Paul, Beej and Heather chat about Video Games and Video Game related news :D) at Fri 02:00 PM PST (1m from now).
LunarJade: hihi
beowuuf: sergeHi
GapFiller: hi Heather
PharaohBender27: Ahoy-hoy, lrrHEATHER !
badpandabear: o/
beowuuf: ready to both chill and be pointed at, or however this works
LunarJade: Some very chill pointing
beowuuf: that works :)
RockPusher: TODAY: We give people the cold finger… this is Chillpoint
beowuuf: it's like the cold shoulder but lower, because of the chill vibes
Raiz0k: Hi everyone.
PharaohBender27: Ahoy-hoy, @Raiz0k !
LunarJade: I'm going to assume you've all watched the teaser to our episode (yesterday's checkpoint). :)
PharaohBender27: Sure have!
badpandabear: Yes ma'am I've done my homework like a good panda
serramarkov: Not yet...
Raiz0k: Can't wait for a further discussion of heel-hat-body integration.
PharaohBender27: @badpandabear Doesn't that mean you should change your name? katesSass
Snowcookies: !next
LRRbot: Next scheduled stream: CheckPoint+ (Paul, Beej and Heather chat about Video Games and Video Game related news :D) at Fri 02:00 PM PST (1m ago).
RockPusher: Wait, we had homework‽ NotLikeThis
Snowcookies: !advice
LRRbot: When you're walling somebody in, make sure you're standing on the right side of the wall.
Raiz0k: Har har PharaohBender xD.
NonUniqueGuy: !badadvice
GapFiller: gotta say much as I get its just a phunny gag theres something abt the whole homework ting that just makes me wanna watch the episode less
Snowcookies: We have homework every week, and then a group discussion on Fridays
beowuuf: the all in one heel-body-hat monster can mimic humanoid appearance
GapFiller: maybe its just the treating it as work that I'm having trouble w/
Raiz0k: @GapFiller : your school-times rebelliousness kicking in?
DeM0nFiRe: lrrSIGNAL
beowuuf: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
RockPusher: lrrDOTS lrrSIGNAL lrrARROW
TheAinMAP: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
PharaohBender27: lrrSIGNAL !
Raiz0k: lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL lrrSIGNAL
Snowcookies: Why do ppl want tall ppl to step on them as opposed to hug them?
beowuuf: fursuit vehicle go brrrr
PixelArtDragon: Looks like I tuned in at just the right time
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Raiz0k: Probably they see it as a very directional hug.
PharaohBender27: @Snowcookies Because being stepped on means you're flat on your back, so you don't have to hurt your neck looking straight up to talk to them Kappa
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NonUniqueGuy: !badadvice
LRRbot: Explosions can be contained in a body.
innovativemethods: oh, this is a good track name.
Snowcookies: the RQ tracks have fun names, many references to things said during the show
NonUniqueGuy: I mean, that is good advice as long as it isn't your body.
lirazel64: Wheee!
Raiz0k: @beowuuf : now you've got me with a mental image of Dimitrescu on the right side of that brrr meme. Thanks, I love it :D.
CaptainSpam: Yay, a use for my points!
Jeezy56: do points really mean prizes?
badpandabear: Welp there goes chat's usefulness LUL
beowuuf: raizok: happy to lay my part :D
Raiz0k: xD
GapFiller: and play it too presumably
Raiz0k: Yeah, I assumed that was intentional!
Snowcookies: No wonder I thought of MoC, this is a remix of chiptune legacy
beowuuf: huh, got all freud up in here all of a sudden :p
RockPusher looks at the prediction system, and the community challenge system and sees maybe someone hasn't thought about how they interact
lirazel64: lrrCIRCLE_SG Cool stream!
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electra310: What happens if we successfully boost the stream?
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PharaohBender27: @electra310 I think it gets the channel on the front page, or something like that?
Raiz0k: @beowuuf : "A Freudian Slip is when you say one thing, and mean tall momma milkies"
badpandabear: Boosting the stream is supposed to give it better visibility in recommendations on the front page or something
Sarah_Serinde: electra310 Twitch shows the stream to more random people in recommendations
GapFiller: PharaohBender27 how much of a reward is that really in practice?
Sarah_Serinde: It does not put us on the front page
badpandabear: Kate had the boost once and it didn't seem to do much
PharaohBender27: @GapFiller True
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CaptainSpam: @Sarah_Serinde Wait, are you implying the mods or LRR aren't setting these in motion?
beowuuf: raizok: lrrWOW
Critterbot: 69k, nice.
PharaohBender27: @CaptainSpam No, it's Twitch itself
electra310: Well, good job boosting everybody!
Sarah_Serinde: CaptainSpam We are not! They just happen! And are opt out, so the first one happened when we didn't even know they existed
Phillammon: I mean it's not like there's a whole lot else to throw points at
PharaohBender27: @CaptainSpam Because Twitch has a tendency to do these things without telling anyone beforehand
Phillammon: Ah. Oh dear.
CaptainSpam: @PharaohBender27 @Sarah_Serinde Huh. That's... huh.
beowuuf: look like beej went all in too :p
lirazel64: How do we boost with points?
TheAinMAP: lrrDOTS lrrCIRCLE lrrARROW lrrBEEEJ lrrPAUL lrrHEATHER
DeM0nFiRe: LUL
NonUniqueGuy: They can still their own challenges, but the boost is done by Twitch itself
Capt_clown: LUL LUL LUL lrrHEART lrrHEART
GapFiller: good evening Paul Beej Heather
Laurence72: lol
TheAinMAP: Hello.
Sarah_Serinde: lirazel64 If you don't see a banner at the top of the chat, go into the channel points menu and there will be an option
KalistaBeast: lrrBEEEJ lrrPAUL lrrHEATHER
PharaohBender27: lrrHEART lrrBEEEJ lrrPAUL lrrHEATHER lrrHEART
hmwd138: Paul has a new haircut
diamondmx: @lirazel64 Click on the channel points button below the chat box.
CAKHost: I thought Beej was the sprite of Trolls?
beowuuf: lirazel64: if you're on mobile you might not be able to do it? Click on the top banner anyway
CAKHost: Er spirit?
CAKHost: Whatev
badpandabear: I don't want Beej on the top of my pencil
ForOhForError: oh I should make tea
Laurence72: Beej looks like he tried to stick a fork into a power outlet
RockPusher: katesSip
mycosect: the important questions
Snowcookies: Hello
KalistaBeast: oh I should make tea
GapFiller: oh that lvl difference is really noticeable
codatski: Oh heck my tea!
lirazel64: Aha, thanks. On phones? or just on v
Raiz0k: (incoming stale social media jokes)
Akaiatana: Four Teas? That's as much as four tens!
lirazel64: computer?
gravity_pike: if you want a job, you get REALLY high, then make a podcast about it. that's just how it works!
GapFiller: like this is normal and all but Paul being half the volume of Beej and Heather really sticks out
SoaringDragon42: That sounds amazing, Paul
KalistaBeast: fear
Raiz0k: @GapFiller : crap, you made me notice it.
ritchards: I sometimes think this stream should start with screening the episode...
djalternative: required viewing?
Zael250: SideQuest?
mycosect: ha!
SoaringDragon42: lol
Snowcookies: Yes
PharaohBender27: katesLol
GapFiller: nice
diamondmx: You get cheevos if you watched Checkpoint.
GapFiller: much better
Foxmar320: lol
Akaiatana: Checkpoint is the raid prep for an MMO
Scy_Anide: I will accept these terms only if you point at the sign.
lirazel64: Easter egg!
Laurence72: Every time I see RE8, I wonder if that is a distant sequel to the anime Re:Zero
innovativemethods: Side quest!
Kazman20a: sound fine
KalistaBeast: good to me
Raiz0k: No, Paul sounds fine.
Sogheim: Paul, casually petting his beard lrrHEART lrrPAUL
MAPBoardgames: I havn't noticed Paul's volume change
DeM0nFiRe: Ccheckpoint already has a post credits scene so technically this is the post post credits scene scene
ManicPixieDreamLurker: I don't watch trailers - too many spoilers for the main content!
serramarkov: Isn't the Easter egg the point?
GapFiller: yeh PAul is fine now
RockPusher: Knobinaga?
Akaiatana: You are good.
gravity_pike: i have the appropriate amount of paul in my headphones
mycosect: y'all are fine
serramarkov: No
SoaringDragon42: Good now!
NonUniqueGuy: Everyone sounds good to me
bobAkirafett: everything sounds fine here
MAPBoardgames: Your levels seem fine
innovativemethods: you're all fine :)
KalistaBeast: ew
Mai_Andra: I think that's against ToS... shigiSurprise
LurkerSpine: sounds to close to nibble
MAPBoardgames: lrrFINE
EvilBadman: oh I thought this was a weekly quest for Scrip
Tandtroll_OG: The hair on you guys is...plenty and excellent. Love it.
GapFiller: knobbing sounds like a wyrd double entendre
constablecrab: knobless oblige
GapFiller: knobbing and twirling
Laurence72: Imagine how fluffy the face would be if we took Beej's top face half and Paul's bottom face half
RockPusher: GapFiller well you know what they say about a Wizard's staff
Raiz0k: *This* close. *This* close to "you can check it on our YouTube point".
diamondmx: @GapFiller I don't think it's a double-entendre if it's just a word some people use for sexing.
Foxmar320: I noticed
PharaohBender27: Oh, I didn't! :O Got to rewatch!
ritchards: I didn't...
Raiz0k: In that case, I did notice!
vellebastet: hello
Orgmastron: I noticed
Snowcookies: I forget to read the lower thirds sometimes
Laurence72: Clever way to encourage people to add views of the video. Well played
LurkerSpine: I *did* notice that Checkpoint 417 is not in the playlist.
Foxmar320: Hello vellebastet foxmarFALL
Laserbeaks_Fury: Dumb People did Dumb Things
Raiz0k: A broken ticker is right two times per Checkpoint.
badpandabear: Or Lady Deathstrike...
vellebastet: @foxmar320 foxmarLOVE
TheMerricat: dang it I missed the start chat.
Raiz0k: Hello @TheMerricat !
CaptainSpam: It's not like the concept of giant women existed before Steven Universe, right? They clearly invented them.
NonUniqueGuy: Can you really put a lot of large women in a cannon?
RockPusher: Other sources of giant women are available…
GapFiller: TheMerricat dont worry theres a whole stream ahead of us to get those giftsubs in Kappa
EvilBadman: nothing to report!
Raiz0k: Don't worry, we were discussing homework.
SAJewers: not the one from the lrr video? Kappa
constablecrab: The Steven Universe Verse
Loonatic93: I'm surprised no one complained about the lack of Rei in the conversation of Large Women.
MAPBoardgames: sigh... times are tough
innovativemethods: he has *one* line.
GapFiller: never underestimate the charm of a faceless extra
RunningMonkeys: greetings professor, nothing to report!
EvilBadman: @constablecrab Get into the SUV
Mai_Andra: Everybody's out here talking about RE, and I'm just chilling with my Winter Queen. (WoW Shadowlands Night Fae)
SoaringDragon42: Still check him every time.
couldntpickausername: chat I'm in a trivia contest and trying to identify which games screenshots 17 and 18 are from https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/805818970103611422/807306646678142996/pieces5.jpg
Bellpei: He has a new line every month about the latest coming an goings.
RunningMonkeys: he is also voiced by alms VO
Foxmar320: I love super positive characters in games. Reminds me of the "combat mom" from The Division.
EvilBadman: he says "nothing to report" and then "Oh except"
Blade_Tiger: He's a good good lad
innovativemethods: that's in the menu
RandomTrivia: "Doesn't need a name, just a great big "THE""
Sogheim: god, I could use a friend like that
Scy_Anide: But how tall is he? Is he 6 foot 9?
constablecrab: Does he know the Grapekeeper?
innovativemethods: it's true.
Raiz0k: Oh, talking furniture, like from Beauty and the Beast?
Crokoking: i love when weird side-characters get popular. same as the "traitor" guy from star wars 7(=)
bigpuppystuart: his name is Gate Keeper. Mr.Keeper if you are nasty.
Foxmar320: huh
GapFiller: Crokoking please Davin Felth remember his name
GapFiller: wait no thats the look sir droids guy
innovativemethods: Twitter has porn, though...
djalternative: you are def allowed to post nsfw stuff on twitter
diamondmx: How explicit do you need to be to get banned from Twitter for lewds? I've seen *some things*.
TheMerricat: Appearently in the DLC there is also an Abysskeeper.
PharaohBender27: Gabe Kieper
Laurence72: His name is G. Atek Eeper
Raiz0k: Wait, you are? I always though modern Twitter went full Puritan.
EvilBadman: maybe it's a surname.
RunningMonkeys: comes from a long line of gatekeepers
GapFiller: gatekeeperalloneword
constablecrab: That gate will be KEPT by God!
Laurence72: Please, Mr. Gatekeeper was my father
TheMerricat: @Raiz0k there are definitely extremely filthy corners of Twitter out there if you go looking.
Raiz0k: "Nate Keeper, the N is pronounced like a G".
Mai_Andra: Gayorg T. Kieper
codatski: @diamondmx You can be explicit or popular on Twitter, but not both. Then Twitter notices lol
gravity_pike: "liked by royalty who dont know your name" is basically optimal placement in a feudal system, imo
djalternative: @Raiz0k many of your favorite internet artists have seperate second very spicy twitter accounts.
PharaohBender27: tqsLol
constablecrab: LRR has a rich internal dialogue.
mycosect: lrrception
DoodlestheGreat: So it's a case of multiple personalities...
Snowcookies: I too like talking to myself
bigpuppystuart: The company talks to itself, soon it will learn to drive and want autonomy
Foxmar320: Just like Pokemon TCG and all the Pikachu
beowuuf: lol
GapFiller: the company as a sentient individual Thomas Hobbes wd be proud
Laurence72: False Marth aka Farth
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Foxmar320: Yep Paul
GapFiller: hence that TMS running gag abt Crom telling Marth 'hi my daughters a big fan'
bigpuppystuart: a loot box of marths it what you opened.
constablecrab: Worms is a different game franchise.
TheMerricat: Have we actually figured out what the "Boost" thing does when you reach the goal?
petey_vonwho: Awakening is by far one of the best FE games
RockPusher: canon is for chumps :D
Raiz0k: @TheMerricat @djalternative : huh, come to think of it, I've actually seen mentions about "NSFW Twitter accounts of X". Apparently I suppressed going to a logical conclusion. Well, that actually makes me have more hope for the modern Internet, thanks!
Laurence72: We didn't start the Fire Emblem
RobotInProgress: a bubble, a softer form of a jar
Mai_Andra: Fire at Will, of course.
PharaohBender27: You'll have to shoot them both, lrrPAUL !
Snowcookies: wow spoilers
CAKHost: There are 2 marths inside of you. They are just marthing around
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LurkerSpine: This is a crapshot
Laurence72: I'd argue if you're looking at stuff on a fan wiki, you've set yourself up for spoilers
mycosect: Paul from the future with his beard tied back
GapFiller: this is toally a Crapshot waiting to happen
GapFiller: maybe even a whole sketch
Foxmar320: LOL
PharaohBender27: tqsLol
Snowcookies: riv
Wolfstrike_NL: If Paul told me he was from the future, I would believe him
Raiz0k: :D
vellebastet: sykLaugh
Laurence72: lol
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GapFiller: actually LRR has literally done 'I'm you from the future' sketches in the past
Raiz0k: Numerous times.
PharaohBender27: @GapFiller Yes! Some even starring lrrPAUL !
djalternative: can we just get a whole thing of the "understudies" for all of the fire emblem characters?
CAKHost: They have to get their money back for that Door somehow
Laurence72: I liked the one where Cam came from the future and had to leave before giving his warning because of how badly our timed smelled to him
Foxmar320: Lady with shorthair and a gun? You just described my Destiny character.
theleerm: the lesbians have already patented that archetype
Raiz0k: I think our common initial reaction is due to the entire "Original Character do not steal" thing :).
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GapFiller: ahhh OC Donut Steel memories
bobAkirafett: what character are they talking about?
RandomTrivia: Beej no!
Getter404: Apparently dataminers found the ORIGNAL pics (from the first shoot) when they leaked the DLC last year?
Raiz0k: I mean, the photoedited face profile at the end of the report is pretty damning.
Getter404: not 100% sure, lot of weird rumors out there
gravity_pike: I'm still not convinced that's copyright infringement. Like, the makeup artist probably didn't give the novel writer the rights to that style.
TheMerricat: I think the most damming part was the artist found a picture of the character in the game that matches EXACTLY one of his shots down to the same slip of hair covering her face
Scy_Anide: It's possible they were incompetent instead of malevolent but that's not a lot better.
Getter404: "Whoopsie" shouldn't be a legal defense for a multi-billion dollar corporation
jmandog1: the evidence is amazing
Raiz0k: Exactly what Getter404 said.
bigpuppystuart: it might also be a premptive measure against the film maker getting sued by Activition later down the line.
Mai_Andra: Like the shadow raid legends or whatever character that looks exactly like Miss Sinister Cosplay OC? shigiNo
Raiz0k: @TheMerricat : yeah, that's what I meant (and what Paul is mentioning right now apparently) :).
Getter404: the exact same hair is out of place, the only shopped thing was a headset
gravity_pike: like, if you dress up Daniel Craig in a tuxedo and stick him in an action movie, you're not necessarily "stealing" james bond.
TheMerricat: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/rynepzmjrizerxif5mfv.jpg here's a non effed up version of the link
Raiz0k: It's even more damning if it wasn't public...
GapFiller: gravity_pike phun phact thats actually written into the JAmes Bond contract
Raiz0k: Yeah, but that's what you get with overworked creative teams.....
gravity_pike: @gapfiller yeah, but that noncompete is on Daniel Craig, not whoever hires him 2nd
TemporallyAwry: If there is actual evidence - like written instructions from the second shoot - then it's going to be an interesting court-case.
ritchards: I mean "hot woman in combat gear" is not exactly a unique thing...
TheMerricat: @LoadingReadyRun if I understand correctly, he actually had interaction with Activision prior when he was attempting to pump up his own works.
floki4242: @gravity_pike no bond can ware a tuxedo for × years across play bond
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rrtycoon2: well. we heard about the NDA so who knows.
floki4242: after*
Foxmar320: Every online game now is just full of cheaters.
djalternative: they've never not had problems with cheaters
Getter404: wait... didn't Brosnan wear a tux in Thomas Crowne Affair? That was concurrent, wasn't it
GapFiller: captures the zeitgeist it feels
RockPusher: What is a throwaway account ban when you get those sweet sweet YouTube views lrrBEEJ
GapFiller: Getter404 he didnt infact and them having to work around the James Bond contract while making that film was a whole ting
LurkerSpine: Valorant's anti-cheat software is the reason I didn't play it.
Raiz0k: @TheMerricat : huh, that's even worse.
Getter404: The anti-cheat stuff is quite literally the one thing keeping me from trying Valor-goddammit what @lurkerspine said
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PharaohBender27: @LurkerSpine The Ring 0 stuff Checkpoint talked about?
LurkerSpine: yes
TheMerricat: "Pierce Brosnan’s Thomas Crown attends a rather fancy soiree that is a "black and white ball." Because of his contract with James Bond, Pierce Brosnan wasn’t able to wear a fancy bow-tie and suit that would have really brought out his eyes and shown the world just how devilishly handsome he was...."
TheMerricat: "According to The Suits Of James Bond, Brosnan was forced to wear his shirt unbuttoned at the collar in order for it not to be confused with a formal black tie outfit. On top of that, Pierce Brosnan was also forced to wear a white bow tie too--and he wasn’t even allowed to tie around his neck! Instead, he had to drape it through the collar and leave it untied."
niccus: it's also starting to come out that people can still cheat in Valorant, despite the rootkit and all
Raiz0k: There are Ring 0 hacks for that PUBG ripoff? Ugh, of course....
Getter404: The "fix" was that Riot lets you turn it off, but it requires a full system restart every time
TehAmelie: remember how people paid like $12 per "day" for cheats in Rainbow 6 Siege? it's a wonder devs stay in the game business instead of the much more lucurative cheat business
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Getter404: This is legally distinct from my CoD Battle pass subscription.
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TheMerricat: Unless you move to the Stadia model it is 100% impossible to prevent all cheating, the best you can do is make it harder than cheaters consider worth it to cheat.
LurkerSpine: @TehAmelie Arguably, that's what a lot of pay to win games are
shea_wolfe: "Damages"
Foxmar320: Destiny 2 has had a cheating problem for a while
Foxmar320: It's not that bad but sometimes you just get shot from the other side of the map through a wall by a handcannon.
Blunderbrah: I am a chess tournament director - cheaters kill confidence in my competitions.
Getter404: Fall Guys had a great idea with their Cheaters Island, but it got too many false positives and had to be shut down
Laurence72: The goal is to get enough cheaters who will stick with the game I guess?
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TheMerricat: They saw me :D
GapFiller: its almost like yr psychic
Raiz0k: Maayyy weeee touuuuch youuuu?
gravity_pike: not dead but dying
SkylerRingtail: Not dead, but signed a DNR
RockPusher: TheMerricat sometimes senpai notices you… you should run!
TheMerricat: Don't worry @RockPusher I'm behind 6 VPN! :P
Getter404: and yet Phil Harrison gets to keep his job. Dude is 0 for 3 on platform launches and just keeps failing upwards.
Raiz0k: What, from all the LRR Yandere?
Snowcookies: My friend works for a local stadia/google branch but got relocated to a different branch
gravity_pike: google and amazon want SO BADLY to have game studios like Microsoft does, but just can't do it
marseilletm: I'm here for a livestream :O and on time???
Raiz0k: See also "Modern W40k model for games".
LurkerSpine: Eh, Microsoft looks really good for cloud gaming
Getter404: @gravity_pike There was that statement from the new Amazon CEO that sounds like they're willing to go for a full 3-5 year AAA dev cycle *before* pulling the plug
shea_wolfe: Yeah, the NHL streaming is done by the MLB people
Raiz0k: @marseilletm : about half-time, well enough :).
TheMerricat: @gravity_pike if they want it so badly maybe they should try harder and not kill off all their attempts prior to them having a chance to succeed
Getter404: WWE Network was the MLB tech as well at launch
marseilletm: fuck
gravity_pike: @themerricat you don't need to tell me, lol
Raiz0k: Yeaaah, but that's Google with its Graveyard, so people interpreting it as a death rattle are probably in the right....
Neljandik: Developers are already limiting access to cloud platforms for games you own
bytecaster: As long as Stadia still has "negative latency", I'm sure they'll pull through.
Getter404: RIP Google Reader, RIP Google Wave...
Raiz0k: Google Plus.... no wait, nobody's missing that.
djalternative: RIV Google Glass
Invitare: Google Glass actually exists
Invitare: it's a business thing though
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Getter404: I think Google Glass attempted to transition to enterprise/business applications, like Hololens
DaSunao: What about the snapchat glasses?
Raiz0k: Here's a relatively full list BTW: https://killedbygoogle.com/
GapFiller: perhaps its time for a Google project cemetery
TehAmelie: we can put the motto "don't be evil" there
GapFiller: imagine something like the Cimitero Monumentale di Staglieno but exclusively for Google side projects
Raiz0k: I'm increasingly afraid it's just a prelude for Google: The Reanimator.
SkylerRingtail: Killed by Google: Ethics
Getter404: @tehamelie They actually formally dropped that motto like 2 years ago.
djalternative: I'm still sad about google essentially killing phone blocks
Raiz0k: Yeah, Heather isn't afraid to hit the nail on the head, go you :)!
RockPusher: Indeed, Google has wrecked their ability to make anything new
marseilletm: is that what happened to nokia?
mycosect: RIP Google Wave
TheMerricat: There are three problems with Stadia, 1. No one trusts Google to keep a project alive. 2. Publishers don't want to play. 3. Most of the actual audience for Stadia don't have the bandwidth where they'd be able to use Stadia.
Invitare: incidentally, Amazon is working on Smart Glasses now
codatski: In addition, the average person doesn't have access to the kind of internet quality necessary to do what Stadia wanted to do
Getter404: and Apple is working on a $3,000 VR headset
Raiz0k: And @TheMerricat re 2. that
SkylerRingtail: When Google replaced Play Music with YouTube Music, I declined to migrate. The only services I still use are Chrome and Gmail. God forbid they kill Gmail
DaSunao: They released those to compete with Bose
PharaohBender27: @Invitare Right, because that worked out *so* great for Google
Raiz0k: 's because they now Google is going to play the old assimilate game.
SnackPak_: seems a safe bet, Heather
Raiz0k: *know
Styxseus: Even with that, what can you get from stadia that you can't get better and or cheaper from almost all other alternatives, isn't it also expensive in itself?
GamesAndInk: Google just killed Google Play Music, and I can't even uninstall it from my phone because it CAME WITH MY PHONE
RockPusher: Stadia will get killed and then another new chat client will be released with game streaming
PharaohBender27: @SkylerRingtail Holy shit Google killing GMail would wreck things for SO many people
Akaiatana: Google Play Music was a real head-scratcher. It was the preinstalled app for playing audio on Pixel phones and they just... ended it. For Youtube Music, which inserts ads into your own music
bytecaster: At this point I have completely lost track of all the chat/videochat platforms Google has introduced/changed/renamed.
Getter404: still not sure why YouTube axed annotations
iris_of_ether: Folks remember Google Wave? :p
GapFiller: yrd think Google are big enough to just acquire other companies and projects rather than just wasting resources on their own inhouse stuff which gets shuttered in short order anyway
TheMerricat: I still make calls through Hangouts via my Gmail page, I'm going to be effed when they finish killing that off.
mycosect: I was such a big fan of wave!!! BibleThump
KharadBanar: Google killing GMail would finally give me the push to switch to Protonmail
Getter404: Google Wave was GREAT for RPG groups, it was like an early version of Discord
Raiz0k: @GapFiller : it's almost like it's a very clear symptom of a monopolist abusing its market power....
bytecaster: Nvidias Geforce NOW streaming service works actually quite well in my experience.
SkylerRingtail: Valve would need actual products to kill >.>
LurkerSpine: Microsoft is doing it
SoaringDragon42: Hangouts is how my SO and I talk during the day. They kill that, we'll be pissed.
LurkerSpine: @SoaringDragon42 bad news
LurkerSpine: (they're killing hangouts)
LurkerSpine: this year, actually
Raiz0k: @SoaringDragon42 : they've already killed Hangouts.
GapFiller: Raiz0k indeed tho counter devils advocate perhaps its better this way that theyre NOT just acquiring other people l&r
TStodden: Valve has killed the Steam Link & Steam Controller...
Akaiatana: It was PAX South 2020 Re: Heather
bytecaster: Some things need time and attention though and not just money, and that certainly is not Google's strength.
GamesAndInk: The fact that you have to pay for a Stadia console is a killer for me. I'll TRY a Google product if I don't have to pay for it, but I'm not investing in Google R&D
Solangel777: back in my day people gathered in groups and did nerdy things!
SoaringDragon42: As long as it still works, I'll be fine. Don't take it away like reader and play music!
RockPusher: At this stage to get people to invest in platforms Google would have to contract-in massive contract-break fees on their side
Talin06: Valve is more landlord than game company now
RockPusher: otherwise why bother
TheMerricat: @SoaringDragon42 yeah, I have bad news for you, what @Raiz0k said. They keep sending me emails telling me that I'll need to migrate to Google Voice calling to do VOIP soon.
PharaohBender27: @Solangel777 We can't do that for probably the majority of this coming year, though
Getter404: Once again: How do companies keep trusting Phil Harrison? dude was responsible for the PS3 and Xbox One.
Solangel777: @PharaohBender27 yeah sad times
bytecaster: Microsoft is more like Netflix, Geforces thing lets you use your Steam library, both better models if you ask me.
SoaringDragon42: @TheMerricat noooo. (Funny, I haven't gotten those yet.)
Raiz0k: @GapFiller : yeah, but that gets us into the territory of that Soviet Block joke about Lenin being friends to kids. Essentially Stockholm Syndrome, Abuse of Capitalism™ version.
Getter404: Remember, at launch the Stadia premium tier gave you access to the store and that was IT. They had to be badgered for a solid month to add in a PS+ style free game offering
GapFiller: Raiz0k yeh... theres no good takeaways from this situation is there? *sadface
TheMerricat: @SoaringDragon42 - https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/15/hangouts-meet-chat/ in case you want to prepare yourself.
Foxmar320: GamePass is the best one currently
Getter404: It was literally just paid access to the "beta" service
Foxmar320: Yeah Gylt.
Solangel777: I think the recent console gen release just killed stadia fully. and on top of that we have Nvidia's streaming service without having to buy hardware?
RockPusher: The Potassium Tier - a lot of fun but get it a little wet and it explodes on you lrrBEEJ
Foxmar320: Its the only Stadia exclusive I can think of
Getter404: Gylt, yeah. From the Rime/Sexy Brutale team.
Foxmar320: Yeah GamePass is just an amazing value
Solangel777: i remember some stats from a while ago where somewhere around 200,000 concurrent users play destiny 2 on pc. and on stadia it was like 1.5 k
Foxmar320: Solangel777 I think its less than that now
Raiz0k: @GapFiller : not anything immediately actionable, unfortunately. But you can find solace in that more and more people are waking up from the "unregulated free market is the only free market" madness mantra.
couldntpickausername: can someone explain the "you need to move" joke?
Solangel777: @Foxmar320 yeah more than likely
Solangel777: which means matchmaking for strikes and crucible is a nightmare
Akaiatana: There's certainly tension about the controllers, now!
GapFiller: Raiz0k small victories eh
DeM0nFiRe: PS4 controller I know has at least a speaker, idk if it has mic though
Getter404: Getting flashbacks to people changing their display name to "Xbox Turn Off" when CoD Ghosts came out at the Xbox One launch
iris_of_ether: @couldntpickausername I assume it's a"haunted by a ghost" joke
Easilycrazyhat: @couldntpickausername Beej's house is haunted and telling him to kill people
GamesAndInk: I feel like everyone's just letting Nintendo do their R&D on controllers for them
Foxmar320: Same
GamesAndInk: White becomes off-yellow pretty quick
Solangel777: ewwwwww paul gross
petey_vonwho: Paul has 5 of them, you could ask him
Foxmar320: By the time I can afford a PS5 maybe they will have other colors
Raiz0k: @GapFiller : big victories win you glory. Small victories win you the war :).
mycosect: gross
DeM0nFiRe: I also dont like the controller being bright object in peripheral vision
Solangel777: im getting a new pc next month i dont need a ps5 ;)
Mai_Andra: I really liked playing "Transistor" on PS4. The character's weapon talks to her, and the game presented his voice through the controller. I liked that parallel.
Getter404: It's a Destruction Derby with MOBA elements
Akaiatana: car batttle + race
marseilletm: twisted metal x fortnite
Foxmar320: Tall Lady is TALL
TehAmelie: i don't suppose you're able to turn off the controller speaker itself either
ReynardWrecca: Good evening lovely people, good evening lovely chat.
GapFiller: that lady is indeed v tall
Laurence72: Tall Lady makes LRR look normal sized!
GredGredmansson: Canonically 9'6''
Laserbeaks_Fury: It's feels like Bowsette all over again
Mai_Andra: Party chat should never be through a speaker by default, though. That should always be an entirely separate thing.
TehAmelie: i like the diagram with two regular sized women in a large coat
GredGredmansson: Walking up to one of the low highways
Getter404: I mean, I was replaying Breath of the Wild yesterday, I know from giant womans.
ritchards: wedge heels
Sogheim: I look forward to the giant women having an amazing cosplay option now
SoaringDragon42: @TehAmelie I laughed at that one.
Solangel777: Plot twist: Lady Dimescu is 6 geese in a dress
Raiz0k: But is she bigger than Primaris?
DaSunao: I know the last generation Xbox had a headset plugin in the controller and you could balance party chat with game volume across the controller and normal speakers
Styxseus: I remember that one Reihardt suit with supports on the inside, might be hard to fit all that in a dress though
Invitare: I believe at the end of the demo she ducks through a door to reach you
GamesAndInk: "I'm too tall for normal houses--I'd better become rich so I can live somewhere fancy."
djalternative: I imagine she has a custom designed house
Saunabath: Oh yeah I've seen a Hulk cosplay with like a 3m tall suit
Solangel777: @Invitare ducks through a door.... i was right. she is 6 geese in a dress
Foxmar320: Yeah she has a castle and still bends down to go through doors
PharaohBender27: Yeah, Lady Dimescu cosplayers are going to have a hell of time with doors
Raiz0k: I mean even the "old" houses with the high ceilings are well under 2.5 m.....
Mai_Andra: Are modern Resident Evil games just wandering through an spooky location while some slasher is stalking you?
ReynardWrecca: @Mai_Andra ...and occasionally while some stalker is slashing you!
GapFiller: its that or RE games trying to be CoD
Foxmar320: Mai_Andra yes while solving increasingly silly puzzles
Getter404: but it's no mine o'clock yet
TheMerricat: @djalternative if I recall the trailers correctly, she lives in a gothic Victorian manor so the ceilings aren't a problem but the doors are still human-sized so she ducks to go through hem.
Raiz0k: "Victorian" in Romania?
Raiz0k: (assumably)
Laserbeaks_Fury: How do they do the gravity thing?
djalternative: @TheMerricat she probably should get someone to rectify that then
GamesAndInk: There's Minecraft mods for that...
PharaohBender27: @Raiz0k Well, whatever the architectural style in 19th-century Romania was, I guess
TheMerricat: I'm not sure, it doesn't read Transylvanian to me @Raiz0k, more like Rich Old London.
Foxmar320: I saw someone made a Sonic Minecraft mod. It was very slow.
josh___something: There literally is a gravity mod
Invitare: no multiplayer :<
Easilycrazyhat: The ME1 remaster is looking good.
floki4242: @pharaohbender27 late century vald
SoaringDragon42: Doesn't mean someone in Romania wasn't inspired and didn't build a mock Victorian house
josh___something: Not sure if it's still updating... but there was
TehAmelie: Cubic Chunks would be helpful. the one that removes all height restriction
lirazel64: @raiz0k It was the British empire... and Dracula was a Victorian novel.
Getter404: How much money does EA want from me to get more Multiplayer
CaptainSpam: @Foxmar320 Gotta go fast, only per redstone ticks?
SkylerRingtail: Mass Effect is an EA franchise, yeah? No thanks
djalternative: Let's be honest, the things in minecraft that get the big publicity never come from the modding community. (much to my chegrin)
Laserbeaks_Fury: yeah I was bummed, I loved the MP
Mai_Andra: I loved the early Silent Hill games, and I liked Resident Evil 1. I've been interested in playing a more recent RE, but I've also been not very interested based on what little I've seen of them...
Invitare: nah, the MP was amazing
Getter404: ME3 multi was GREAT... except the packs
Invitare: I liked ME3, and the MP was still the best part of the game
Orgmastron: The multiplayer was Fine(TM)
Foxmar320: Mai_Andra If you enjoyed the classic RE games maybe try the 2 remake?
Raiz0k: Sorry, I'm being an ass inadvertendly, @TheMericat you evidently meant more of the style of the time, which including much higher stories (as I even mentioned in a previous message).
Invitare: the MP is still active, that's how good it is
PharaohBender27: @lirazel64 @Raiz0k And as I recall, it was a novel that was pretty bigoted towards eastern Europe, essentially portraying it as backward and superstitious
lirazel64: lrrFINE
djalternative: @TehAmelie you wouldn't really need it if you just load a void world
NonUniqueGuy: You didn't need it. You could still get the best ending without it the bonus to readiness
Mai_Andra: You could get the same result by completing 100% in single player. The multiplayer was not actually required.
gibbousm: if you miss the multiplayer, Warframe has pretty similar gameplay to ME3 multiplayer
TehAmelie: yeah, i managed to get the best ending without multiplayer. had to do literally everything to just get there though
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TheMerricat: @Raiz0k lol if you were it flew over my head, I'm not as tall as her. :P
Foxmar320: oh lol
lirazel64: @pharaohbender27 "Bigoted" is gently put!
Getter404: Ah yes, a vintage Porsche, something relatable to everyone
Raiz0k: @PharaohBender27 : Southeastern, and yes, it was :). The British Empire actually did have dependencies in the vicinity, but I doubt it was whole of Romania.
bytecaster: I feel so bad for those poor developers.
LurkerSpine: 3's multiplayer was good, but honestly they could have just gone with Andromeda's multiplayer
Solangel777: @PharaohBender27 oh hey btw thanks for the gift sub you gifted me during the last The Long Game
TheMerricat: Bram Stroker's Dracula is misogynist and racist, but then again it was pretty much of it's time.
PharaohBender27: @Solangel777 Are you sure it was from me, or when you got it? I wasn't present for The Long Game stream
Metric_Furlong: TheMerricat less so than some of its contemporaries, to be fair
NonUniqueGuy: I only tried Andromeda's MP and I enjoyed it, but MP ultimately isn't really me thing
Solangel777: @PharaohBender27 says your name maybe it was a different stream though i watched after that
Invitare: I just hope they add MP to the new Mass Effect, without lootboxes this time. It's a shame the studio that made it before was disbanded
Getter404: There was that bit about how ME1 won't have Pinnacle Station because the source code is just irreparably corrupted
PharaohBender27: @Solangel777 I gave a bunch of gift subs during last Saturday's Live
lirazel64: I think Dracula's more classist, though. Refined, aristocratic vampires preying on superstitious peasants.
Raiz0k: @TheMerricat : I see what you did there :]. And yeah, I only meant the type of architecture you relate to London was pretty universal for higher-caste European mansions, height wise. It still wasn't high enough ;).
djalternative: Like Civ V's <do not touch this variable to preserve save compatibility>
Solangel777: @PharaohBender27 ahhh then thats probably when! thank you!
PharaohBender27: No problem, @Solangel777 ! :)
Hexi_Lexi: hey LRR folks and LRR fans! reminder that yall are loved more than words can express!
MrSVCD: ScummVM anyone?
BlackIsis: yep
djalternative: yes
Laserbeaks_Fury: yeah a mass effect 4
Raiz0k: yes
TheMerricat: PrideHeartL PrideHeartR @Hexi_Lexi
Getter404: There was the teaser with Liara, yeah
Solangel777: AsexualPride @Hexi_Lexi
Metric_Furlong: lirazel64 eh... not so much?
djalternative: the first game they've made in the series since ME3
Laserbeaks_Fury: So much so that there's going to be a canon ending, they're taking out the choice
Mysticman89: Well, it assumes the calculus being done is correct at all times, which isn't necessarily the case
KharadBanar: refusal ending is my headcanon
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shea_wolfe: Speaking of remakes. I'm super pumped that Square is remaking/finishing Saga Frontier
Solangel777: i would like to impose another rule for remakes: Thou shall not repeat what Warcraft 3 remake was
TheMerricat: Chat this is a random question but I've been hearing that Pizza Hut has introduced a Detroit Style Pizza, but neither the app or their site show it on the menu when I go to order online, have any of you seen/had this pizza yet? I thought it was already rolled out nationwide already but maybe I'm crazy?
SkylerRingtail: Uhhh, don't check out the Steam forums for the Remaster. Full of threads complaining about the removal of a male gaze camera shot. Never change, gamers -_-
Getter404: Only Nintendo remake I care about is if they'll finally port Xenoblade X to Switch. Literally the only reason I keep my Wii U plugged in.
TehAmelie: i did not buy that dichotomy between biologic and synthetic life the game tried to sell, so the hybridization ending only made sense to me. . .
bytecaster: I would be much more fun to hear, that they needed to go on a magic quest to get the source code scroll for a game, and currently there are just no mages available.
MolaMolaphant: uh oh
niccus: it's probably already rolled out; i recommend having a little caesars deep deep dish for comparison though
djalternative: @TheMerricat I thought it was a limited thing that came and went
Solangel777: oh no
Foxmar320: foxmarWELP
Laurence72: I resemble that comment!
Snowcookies: absolutely not
DaSunao: Oh boy!
Getter404: Dankey Kang?
3and4fifths: What is 42
Metric_Furlong: like, interpretations of Dracula and its social commentary is quite a complicated topic to begin with (even aside from its age, Dracula is a rather more layered book than pop culture ideas of a 'vampire novel' would tend to suggest) but wrt to the class thing, the fact Dracula himself is a rich, noble bloodline aristocrat isn't coincidental to it
NonUniqueGuy: What is Animal Crossing?
Foxmar320: omg
GapFiller: OH NOES
KinoGami: i got it from "in 2020"
RandomTrivia: LUL
Snowcookies: What is Animal Crossing?
Raiz0k: Where is Animal Crossing?
Getter404: Doom Eternal
mycosect: oof
gibbousm: What is Animal Crossing?
MolaMolaphant: what is animal crossing: New Horizons
Laurence72: Minecraft!!
josh___something: LUL
Scy_Anide: What is Doom Eternal?
wynternyghtynggale: what is animal crossing new horizons
DaSunao: What is Animal Crossing: New horizons?
couldntpickausername: what is you're kidding?
PharaohBender27: What is Animal Crossing: New Horizons?
chesul: XD
Solangel777: What is Animal Crossing New Horizons
Spacepup: What is Stardew Valley expansion 1.5?
teh_v: What is Resident Evil 3?
SoaringDragon42: What is Animal Crossing?
hmwd138: What is Animal Crossing: New Horizons
tenthtechpriest: what is horizon zero dawn Kappa
Hexi_Lexi: What Is Animal Crossing New Horizons?
bytecaster: What is Animal Crossing: New Horizons?
Athelgar: What is Animal Crossing: NH
CastleOtranto: What is Super Smash Bros.?
Foxmar320: What is Doom Eternal
djalternative: What is Doom Eternal?
petey_vonwho: what is Horizon Zero Dawn?
badpandabear: What is Doom Eternal? Kappa
TheMerricat: What is Doom Eternal! :P
lirazel64: what is animal crossing new horizons
aitsu100: what is animal crossing new leaf
Mysticman89: when is animal crossing new horizons
NonjaBiru: Where is Animal Crossing New Horizons
DoodlestheGreat: What is Cyberpunk 2077? :tf:
BlackIsis: what is animal crossing: zero dawn
PharaohBender27: Dangit, @DaSunao , you beat me! :D
Foxmar320: lol
Blade_Tiger: What is Nintendo
Doc_Layzah: what is pokemon?
GapFiller: oh dear
DeM0nFiRe: Training? Gym? Must be Ring Fit Adventure!
aitsu100: Pokemon
Wolfstrike_NL: Digimon
Getter404: What is Beyblade?
gibbousm: What is Pokemon?
NonUniqueGuy: What is Digimon?
DaSunao: What is Pokemon?
Penthesilea180: What is Pokemon: Sword and Shield
Hexi_Lexi: What is Doki Doki Literature Club?
SoaringDragon42: What is Pokemon?
chesul: how did they not get that!
hmwd138: What is Pokemon: Sword and Shield
Mai_Andra: What are "Deez Nutz?"
RunningMonkeys: what is pokemon sword and shield
bytecaster: What is Pokemon: Sword and Shield?
Snowcookies: What is Pokemon Sword and Shield
wynternyghtynggale: what is pokemon sword and sheild
PharaohBender27: What is Pokemon: Sword and Shield?
chewy_sugar: What is Monster Rancher
niccus: what is soul calibur
djalternative: What is Pokemon Sword/Shield
Solangel777: what is me dumb
eightbitrocket: What is Mystery Dungeon?
TheMerricat: @djalternative I hope not, but that'd make some sense.
Mysticman89: where are pokemon
mycosect: What is Pokemon: Sword and Shield?
DoodlestheGreat: What is Madden? :tf:
Blade_Tiger: What is Mario
petey_vonwho: what is Fire Emblem?
couldntpickausername: what is gatchaman?
Laurence72: What is Haikuyu, Volleyball Extravaganza!
RockPusher: Why are Pokemans!
RandomTrivia: What are Pokeymans?
Spacepup: Pokemon: Disappointment Edition
CAKHost: What is advertisement?
mycosect: wow
Saunabath: Who's that Pokemon?
NonjaBiru: Why is Pokemon Shield/Sword
SkylerRingtail: Did they guess incorrectly?
KinoGami: were these people all over 40?
teh_v: What is Pocket Monster?
Blade_Tiger: What is Age of Calamity
TheMerricat: How old were these people? I mean I'm an 'old' but....
BlackIsis: I have played neither of these games and could have answered them
lirazel64: we are the need champions!
NonUniqueGuy: I can understand Animal Crossing, but Pokimon?
marseilletm: pokemon x & y
Snowcookies: lmao
KinoGami: video games and sports
GapFiller: KinoGami thats the only explanation I can think of
Blade_Tiger: What is Zelda
Capt_clown: was this celebrity Jeapardy?
djalternative: @TheMerricat If you've got a Jett's near you, that's a better place to get detroit style anyway.
ritchards: it's just trivial!
RockPusher: When you skimp on the video games studying your trivia
Mai_Andra: Potent Potables
RandomTrivia: Too much flag-recognising, not enough video games
RockPusher: Never skip video game day
badpandabear: Or they should just watch Checpoint
mycosect: video games very broad these days to be fair
djalternative: @LoadingReadyRun There's a literal Jeopardy trivia book and I'm sure video games aren't in it.
niccus: that's only two out of five, though, right? what were the other three in the same column?
badpandabear: but spell it correctly
Raiz0k: One of the One Million questions in the Polish version of The Millionaire was about the Witcher, and IIRC the person being questioned got it wrong.
KinoGami: video games and sports i think are the the most obscure things because of how nuanced those interests can be
DoodlestheGreat: Oh yay!
Gnyrinn: @RandomTrivia There's never too much flag-recognising!
lirazel64: Games over Potent Potables, for sure
GapFiller: Cyberpunk is clearly the new Fork Knife
mycosect: uh huh
Athelgar: i imagine the trivia community would be a lot more critical of missing something 'traditional'
RandomTrivia: OH GOOD
Getter404: I am still legally forbidden from boning Keanu.
RockPusher: Of course there are…
TehAmelie: the last Guinness Book of Records i checked, they had a segment with videogame stats about as big as the one on sports
Orgmastron: *sigh* of course
Laurence72: shocked pikachu face
Malazim: I feel like a live audience would have been bad at jeopardy
djalternative: a mod API
RockPusher: fugiWow
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PharaohBender27: @RandomTrivia LRR has done flag recognizing challenges, though, too! ;)
CAKHost: Oh good
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shea_wolfe: People are gonna use Cyberpunk mods to mine Bitcoin aren't they?
niccus: high stakes skyrimming
SkylerRingtail: Please sir, I don't need any more Schadenfreude
TheMerricat: TBF, Skyrim has this problem too and the modders use it for good. That's what SKSE is.
mycosect: it's very cyberpunk
CastleOtranto: @rainbowolf13 Congrats on your sub babbo!
RandomTrivia: "If you get hacked in the game, you get hacked in real life!"
Orgmastron: Now THAT'S Punk!
MajorFrostbyte: Cyberpunk the LARP
RandomTrivia: @PharaohBender27 Yes, it's a valid part of Trivia. But video games must not get shortchanged! :D
RockPusher mutters something about game mod security not getting enough research attention
mycosect: big oof
Crokoking: tbh i always assume mods just run code on my system
Laurence72: they got it as fast as they did for everyother fix?
Spacepup: I think modders have a unofficial patch version that's already patched it out.
RockPusher: EA are jumping back on the college athlete exploitation train?
djalternative: yeah but this is current EA
Solangel777: lemme guess. microtransactions as well?
BlackIsis: Wait, I thought they got the teams but not the players?
Solangel777: like Fifa?
CastleOtranto: Exploit those players! Hell yeah! Wait, no... that's evil.
mycosect: NCAA: AU
NullColaShip: Sleve McDichael makes a comeback!
Getter404: I eagerly await the return of Bobson Dugnutt
Capt_clown: Because Merica!....
shea_wolfe: 4 year limits on players
Fofo57007: the playbook
jessieimproved: yes, yes there is
BlackIsis: Players are underpaid
Fofo57007: there are some rule differences
bokochaos: The game is just really hard to play because yes?
Solangel777: its fantasy football
Orgmastron: That was the impression I got as well BlackIsis
SniperPumpkin: yes, there are a few changes to the rules
Laurence72: players leave the team after 4-5 years max
m_logan2000: horny teens
RandomTrivia: Heather, that's *Anime* Football
RockPusher: Randy mascots and intra-school shenanigans?
marseilletm: I'm pretty sure that was the problem the first time round, which is why they had to stop
CaptainSpam: There's SOME rule differences (i.e. college has an overtime rule that isn't utterly stupid), plus college mascots are cooler.
Laurence72: no 10 year veteran players
RockPusher: … and very thirsty marching bands
Talin06: there are different rules
BlackIsis: oh
BlackIsis: wow, that's bonkers
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djalternative: this is amazing
KinoGami: the business of sports is just infuriating
djalternative: I can't wait to see this mess
Orgmastron: God this is so messed up
teh_v: Or.... they could just pay college players for their likeness.
Getter404: Going to such great lengths to avoid actually paying people
mycosect: mmmmmmmm
Fofo57007: luckily the tournament structure the NCAA has right now is dumb
Laurence72: So, they'd get to have a real national championship tournament, and nt just a 4 team playoff?
BlackIsis: Bring back Cyberball
Spacepup: NFL Blitz 2000 for the Dreamcast was the best football game of all time.
bokochaos: I remember the "football" game in Unreal Tournament 2004
GamesAndInk: I want them to argue Simulation Theory, and because the entire universe is a simulation THEREFORE anything involving football belongs to them.
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djalternative: the winner of the entire thing ascends and becomes god
CastleOtranto: I mean, the Madden games suck, but this is just beyond the pale.
Fofo57007: they werent suppose to use the player likeness before
Fofo57007: it was already qb 1 and rb 3 and such
3and4fifths: surprisingly no sigmathetanaka account...
Laserbeaks_Fury: Just use that Key and Peele sketch
LurkerSpine: recruitment was part of the old games for sure
Fofo57007: the recruiting part was a huge part of ncaa
CaptainSpam: Isn't that just Dynasty Mode in the older NCAA games?
3and4fifths: lrrGOAT lrrGOAT lrrGOAT
mycosect: Haha, they just copy the stats and randomize the appearances?!
CastleOtranto: And I like American football video games, but the folks in charge are universally horrible.
Laurence72: They just need to go on an MMO, and click 'random look' on a character model 3,000 times to make th eplayers
Capt_clown: Since it's EA you'll have to pay for each team and have a monthly subscription to turn off concussions
bokochaos: Yeah I had some feeling that this was gonna be Tecmo Bowl 2.0
CastleOtranto: Washington LB was OP
RockPusher: All we can hope for is that EA acts with integrity lrrBEEJ
CaptainSpam: NHL Stanley Cup had the NHL-but-not-NHLPA deal, while NHLPA '93 was, obviously, the other way around.
Raiz0k: :D
hesterbyrde: As an Alabamian I love (read: HATE) that even as far away as Canada, the benchmark for devotion to college football is ROLL TIDE
DeM0nFiRe: Speaking of licenses, did we ever find out why a non-ea studio gets to make star wars?
CaptainSpam: You only have the license to the left half of their bodies.
bokochaos: Will it likely be where all the teams play the same and its just a color difference in the end?
djalternative: In big movie licensing contracts now-in-days include clauses that allow them to show the film for ever ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE
Orgmastron: DeM0nFiRe As far as I can tell, Disney ended the contract early
TheMerricat: @DeM0nFiRe I mean other than the fact that Disney got tired of EA sitting on the license and not making the most of it?
Solangel777: it will be college foot ball but EA licensed characters
mycosect: #COVIDBALL
RockPusher: Hmmm - now I am trying to work out what the LRR memebers' off-brand sports game names would be…
djalternative: there's literally clauses that cover them showing movies on Mars already
Laurence72: think of how much money they could save by making it a 2020 game and not having to invest in stadium crowds in game!
Capt_clown: Yea, cause the players said "Hey, your using our likenesses and not paying us. What gives?" So NCAA just took the ball and went home on it instead of I don't know paying them
AntHoneyRondo: Persona with football? I might accualy play that
Foxmar320: wat
Orgmastron: LMAO
Raiz0k: Excellent choice, there.
mycosect: #iconic
Laurence72: I lov ethe powerglove, it's so bad
Raiz0k: The reason is: "It's so bad."
BlackIsis: Look, the ET game was massively influential, in that it sent the entire industry tumbling
PharaohBender27 makes confused face
djalternative: They knew it'd fail in the first place. It was an omen
TheMerricat: https://i.imgur.com/JlIJGqa.jpg is what Beej is referring to I believe
mycosect: 🤦♀️
TotallyNotaBeholder: TY @TheMerricat
TheMerricat: https://i.redd.it/vuxll0pqkjn21.png is a better one.
Raiz0k: Maybe they were counting on the audience getting a "we've hit rock bottom, and now we're ascending?".
RockPusher: Google's marketing team self-aware enough to throw shade at themselves?
Solangel777: Ah yes. compare yourself to ET the game. the worst game ever made that actually crashed the 1980s game market
Solangel777: good show google
KharadBanar: well this is cursed
Raiz0k: The game that's literally known from being a landfill component....
Laurence72: always set the bar low, so that your successes look all the better
KinoGami: ET didn't cause the crash. it was just another symptom of the existing problem
TheMerricat: @Solangel777 as a kid from the 2600 era, ET wasn't really that bad of a game and it really wasn't the cause of the crash as much as a symptom. but yeah :)
bokochaos: I thought that the Purina food games crashed the market
PharaohBender27: katesPalm
RandomTrivia: Oops
RandomTrivia: benginFacepalm
mycosect: esports games played by millions:ET in 2017 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Raiz0k: @bokochaos : as in, the pet food?
bokochaos: As in the pet food
TheMandrew: that was michael caine from jaws the revenge
gibbousm: that was Michael Caine and Jaws
Raiz0k: They made video games? Holy (possibly literal) cow.
TheMandrew: either revenge, or the sea world one, i can't rmeemver
RockPusher: British actors are very much "Money, Dear Boy!"
BlackIsis: Jaws 3 yeah
bokochaos: That helped lead to the Nintendo ENTERTAINMENT System instead of being labeled video games
Morment: My favorite bit like that was when Christopher Walken was asked about being in a ton of movies and he said he does them because he gets bored
DeM0nFiRe: Quick chat, find more stories for them to talk about or they'll leave!
PharaohBender27: Cheer300
gibbousm: I've not seen the film, but I've seen the house it paid for
TemporallyAwry: There was a Jaws 3?
bokochaos: and the "Seal of Approval" Nintendo puts on their games
Getter404: It wasn't just for Jaws IV, it was about how filming on Jaws IV meant he wasn't present to accept his Oscar for Hannah & Her Sisters
Gizmoloid: I think everyone involved in Mario movie were quite angry about it. Also I think Bob Hoskins was drinking heeavily on set and a lot of filming crew were on drugs?
Laurence72: agreed
Raiz0k: "Fallout"? Are we talking about "The Frontier" mod now?
Gizmoloid: At least I read something along those lines
Akaiatana: Thanks Paul, Beej and Heather for doing this roundup and talking about things with a moderate voice.
LarkSachrosis: Which has been coming.
TheMerricat: "They sent John Leguizamo, Bob Hoskins and myself. It must have been hosted partly by Nintendo. We were there for over two weeks. I remember being in an old temple in Tokyo with Bob and John, and there were Buddhist monks praying for the success of the film. We all looked at each other when we realised what was going on; we thought: ‘This is sacrilegious – these priests should not be praying for our crazy movie!’”
PharaohBender27: @Gizmoloid Think I read something along those lines, too
RockPusher: tqsStonks tqsStonks_HF
Mai_Andra: I really liked the Super Mario Brothers movie. It was fun.
TheMerricat: The Mario Bro movie was a historically troubled shoot.
GapFiller: Gamestop is the story much as Desert Bus the video game is Desert Bus the experience
Gizmoloid: @TheMerricat Wow, what a quote!
mycosect: Hell Yeahhhh!!!
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RockPusher: wheelerMuldcb wheelerY wheelerH
RandomTrivia: Ah yes, noted mono-red player Ben Ulmer is playing UW Vega LUL
Loonatic93: I wonder if anyone is going to run God of the Tree.
Raiz0k: :D
RockPusher: unarmeClick
Laurence72: Team Toski!
Raiz0k: "Hello, Cammander"
donuts_are_holy: Is that just an endless game?
mowdownjoe: I miss the "HELLO CAMMANDER" intros.
Raiz0k: Frist!
DoodlestheGreat: Sometimes he makes it.
PharaohBender27: :O
Snowcookies: He's been trying for weeks
djalternative: I really want Ben to play We're Going to Need a Bigger Pantheon
RockPusher: elfunkPopcorn elfunkPopcorn elfunkPopcorn
Snowcookies: It's a place
TwitchTVsFrank: place
Mai_Andra: Yeah, I heard it was a train wreck. And they did make some strange choices lore-wise. And I was actually allowed to watch it because mom thought Lena was a witch (because of the clip used in the trailer.) But I liked it when I eventually did see it.
SolarBlitz1: In the pocket of Big Tarkov
bokochaos: Tarkov is a region
TheMerricat: @Gizmoloid you might like this one then - "Edson claims not to recall whether he ever saw the movie, but feels he never escaped it. “When you’re involved with such a big disaster, the stench of it sort of stays with everybody,” he says. “There was work I hoped for in Hollywood, but it never really happened for me after that. You have to be careful. If you’re going to sell your soul, you’d better be getting more than just money out of it.”"
niccus: tarkov is your responsibilities
PharaohBender27: @DoodlestheGreat Well yes he sometimes succeeds in an outing, but he hasn't ESCAPED
Laserbeaks_Fury: Escape from Turok
bokochaos: full of murderers and nothingness
bokochaos: and guns
Mai_Andra: "It just don't get no better than this." "Yeah." - dinosaurs
DaSunao: I saw a lot of Funko when I was in Japan since I was in the right timezone
marseilletm: :OOOO
mycosect: Escape from Tuvok
djalternative: Technically you can't escape from Tarkov yet as the game is in early access
Fofo57007: sooo good
Radjack: :D
RandomTrivia: Coffee with Serge was lovely
mycosect: ooooooh
CaptainSpam: "Hi, my name is Frank Tarkov. Congrats for finding me! Now, run!"
Wolfstrike_NL: CwS was so enjoyable
RockPusher: Serge talking about Serge talking about Coffee :D
DoodlestheGreat: @pharaohbender27, that's because "escaping" from the game is a lot like "winning" at EVE Online. :tf:
Raiz0k: They're very nice!
RegulusPratus: Yes! More wholesome edutainment!
Hexi_Lexi: CwS was such a delight
62MGcobra: all i heard was Serge saying ooooooooh
NotCainNorAbel: it is a nice cup
RockPusher: I *do* need something to keep my coffee in!
TheMerricat: I hope LRR does more Coffee with Serge type stuff, even if not with Serge, a series where each LRR member just walks us through their joys in life would be awesome.
mycosect: oh nice, that's sexy
Raiz0k: Oh yeah, that would be awesome.
Angelic_Bovines: That's a step above your average keep cup!
BlackIsis: talkin' bout hot stuff
PharaohBender27: @DoodlestheGreat What does :tf: mean? Googling just gets me "The lrrEFF "
Raiz0k: Eh, you get used to it after enough singeing.
djalternative: yeah. I'd be interested in more informational content from LRR
Solangel777: i'm still using the enamel mugs i got from the desert bus hatchet lot from 2019 for my coffee. good stuff
RandomTrivia: Don't forget the robo-bunny
DoodlestheGreat: @pharaohbender27, look up "trollface."
Solangel777: now i want more coffee
DeM0nFiRe: I EAT
Raiz0k: Drums in THE time ;p.
Orgmastron: Woo more ALien!
tergonis: yessssssss
mowdownjoe: MORE ALIEN
LurkerSpine: well if the drums were out of time, there wouldn't be much rhythm in the cafe
Getter404: oh no, robitts
MAPBoardgames: I am super-excited!
RandomTrivia: More Alien DF HYPE!
mycosect: there was an Alien campaign?
beowuuf: oops all synths?
lirazel64: Huzzah!
TheMerricat: @PharaohBender27 are you seeng the emote or just the text? It's the trollface emote if you aren't seeing it, you might need Frankz extension for Twitch to see it.
tergonis: bring on the sci fi horror goodness!
jessieimproved: existential dread excite
mycosect: as in... Xenomorphs?
DoodlestheGreat: @pharaohbender27, also, you need to get BTTV.
mycosect: 0.0
Snowcookies: mycosect search Heat Death in the LRR youtube
Hexi_Lexi: god, i loved the VtM campaign
mycosect: Vampire was so good!!!
RegulusPratus: I would also enjoy more Vampire, yes
mycosect: I def will, thanks!
TheMerricat: Having an all android campaign is going to be interesting :)
PharaohBender27: @TheMerricat I was just seeing text @DoodlestheGreat I'm on the desktop app instead of a browser - there's only one channel I go to where BTTV stuff often gets used, and so I use my browser when I go there
Getter404: Really hoping for more AFCrossing after that Mansions of Madness run a few weeks back
DeM0nFiRe: "No aliens, thanks"
dividesBy0: I hate space. It is cold and dark and it gets everywhere.
BlackIsis: As we know, everyone who stayed inside was just fine in every alien movie
TheMandrew: i'm going to stay within my gravity well
LarkSachrosis: Just a bunch of office drones working for The Company
Mai_Andra: That is something Adam said while setting up Vampire...
DoodlestheGreat: @themerricat, it's a BTTV emote, along with notsquishY ShoopDaWhoop M&Mjc and ConcernDoge
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RockPusher: elfunkCat elfunkCat elfunkCat
Raiz0k: You're going to stay inside Paul? Do you remember what was in the *actual* inside last time, Paul?
Orgmastron: Time zones are weird
TheMerricat: @DoodlestheGreat I get those through the BTTV addon for Frankz :P
NullColaShip: Demons tilting at windmills
BlackIsis: demon Souls, but pinball
3and4fifths: Pinball maybe?
Getter404: That's that bigass pinball table, right?
DeM0nFiRe: That checks out
Solangel777: mod tol baddy into super tol lady
Orgmastron: RE4 has the cool shopkeep
Capt_clown: But actually
DoodlestheGreat: It's entertaining because it's Ben and Adam. >_<
mowdownjoe: Vampire Lade = Ada Wong?
Raiz0k: So Re4 is shortstack lady ;)?
CastleOtranto: Yes, her name is Ada Wong
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Solangel777: how does a banana perform kungfu?
Raiz0k: LOL @ "literally Cori's character"
RockPusher: \ StinkyCheese /
BlackIsis: That's my favorite adam ant song
TheAinMAP: lrrDOTS lrrAWESOME lrrDOTS lrrDOTS
DeM0nFiRe: Or it's a tater that is a shaman
Raiz0k: 'm hundry
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NonUniqueGuy: I was having trouble coming up with a new name and landed on that.
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bokochaos: You are incredible with all of these subs Merricat
Raiz0k: Excusez moi, isn't it pronounced "GetterNotFound"?
Raiz0k: xD
Getter404: @raiz0k It started as a Getter Robo joke, so... maybe?
Raiz0k: :)
Raiz0k: "special extension thing"....
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GapFiller: eyyy 16month 5 month streak
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DeM0nFiRe: Her tablet that fits in her hand like a phone*
GapFiller: cheer100 AND DA BITS!
xantos69: !next
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Raiz0k: But also charm.
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GapFiller: thanks Beej
Raiz0k: Hah!
CaptainSpam: You heard the man, GapFiller! Now is your moment! Kappa
TheMerricat: I mean he forgot to pick up Cam so...
RandomTrivia also needs to get materials to fill a gap, and returns with a sandwich
TheAinMAP: Thank you for streaming.
Raiz0k: Thanks lrrHEATHER lrrPAUL lrrBEEEJ !
GapFiller: also thanks for streaming lrrPAUL lrrBEEEJ lrrHEATHER
DeM0nFiRe: o/ lrrHEART
Snowcookies: Bye, thanks for stream
CaptainSpam: Thanks for the stream!
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Mai_Andra: but... FFXIV shigiHype xivTonberry xivMorbol xivGoob xivCactuar xivBehe
FenrisSchafer: lrrHEART lrrHEART lrrHEART
beowuuf: sergeHi bbbbye
LordZarano: Tau, Muon, and Electron neutrinos are the 3 kinds of neutrinos
GapFiller: LunarJade thanks for streaming Heather
marseilletm: that was nice
TheMerricat: lrrHEART Chat, you are all awesome people. Stay Safe out there, Be well, and be happy! lrrHEART
DeM0nFiRe: Hey you don't know me, maybe I am a complete piece of crap
Mysticman89: some would say simply living as a unique human being has some inherent awesomeness
Juliamon: It is scientifically impossible to be subbed to LRR for more than a month and not be awesome.
DeM0nFiRe: Does that just mean that anyone who would be evil would definitely not sub, or does it mean subbing to LRR lets you do as much evil as you want without being considered evil as a whole?
Juliamon: Well, that depends on your views of what counts as evil.
r10pez10: oh man commander
Raiz0k: I am extremely conflicted on this apparently-emerging subject of LLR-subscription-driven-morality.
DeM0nFiRe: Maybe it's a tier system where each consecutive month you are subbed you get permission to do more evil things
TheMerricat: Either way, awesome merely means deserving of awe, you can be good or evil and still be awesome :P
DeM0nFiRe: Like 2 months means you can litter one piece of trash, 3 months you get to steal candy from a baby
Mysticman89: those who exist in the realm of lrr subspace tend to be filled with enough wholesome beans that they feel no desire to do evil
DeM0nFiRe: Haha true
Raiz0k: The fact that you pursue the path of maximization of evil act while under an aegis of morality kind of undermines the question there @DeM0nFiRe ;).
DeM0nFiRe: LRR stream chat really is the chillest and nicest chat of any streams I've watched, while also being the most active for the number of viewers
TehAmelie: heh. i'm reminded of this hilarious conspiracy theory that a pope had declared a room in the Vatican to not be a part of Earth so nothing that happens there could be sin
DeM0nFiRe: Hey listen, I didn't say I was gonna do evil deeds, I just want to know the rules is all
Juliamon: But consider: being evil but maintaining a limit so that you aren't *more* evil than, say, Heather
TheMerricat: @TehAmelie man the ISS must be a partyzone then :P
Raiz0k: @TehAmelie : was that the same pope that actively produced porn :) ?
TehAmelie: i'm looking at them to try and remember which one. . .
Juliamon: Old fair-skinned dudes all tend to look similar
Raiz0k: @TheMerricat : not the ISS, but if Event Horizon is to be believed, the demarcation line isn't that much further away.
TehAmelie: i can only remember it was a name i haven't heard anywhere else
TheMerricat: @Raiz0k I though the idea behind Event Horizon was they had a slip drive failure that dropped them into a W4k-equse warp?
TehAmelie: so not a well known pope i guess
TehAmelie: or anyone in a line of longer numbers
Raiz0k: @TehAmelie : the Porn Pope™ is not a well-known name either IIRC, so that's still on target.
TehAmelie: wait, it may have been about 500 years ago
TheMerricat: 266 popes thats alot
TehAmelie: i know right
TehAmelie: i had assumed they all lived for about 200 years. just cause ol JP2 was pope for so much of my life
TehAmelie: until i googled for "popes" just now
TheMerricat: You know this one must have loved his job " Greek. Tried to end the Acacian schism but it resulted in the Laurentian schism"
Raiz0k: @TehAmelie: That sounds about right, it was a surprisingly (for the contemporary mind of "wait, greatgreatgreat...grandfather/mother surely didn't produce smut") old generation.
Raiz0k: @TheMerricat : that's the memetic consensus about the Event Horizon movie, yes. Having watched it, I tend to agree.
Raiz0k: (well, in the media-space, not in the "I-actually-want-it-to-happen" space :) )
TehAmelie: Pax Romana is a fun comic, speaking of popes
TheMerricat: "Roman. Previously known as Stephen II. Died three days after his election, having never received episcopal consecration. Some lists still include him. The Vatican sanctioned his addition in the sixteenth century; removed in 1961. He is no longer considered a pope by the Catholic Church."
TehAmelie: but anyway, being a LRR fan sure has taught me some ethics